Heligirocast (Spanish)

[AliasJVD]

Very nice.

[giroconcept]

Très bel appareil ! superbe esthétique !

[usmctanks1]

made by superior craftsmen, and using rich corinthian leather... I like what they have done with my new.. Chrysler Cordooooooba...

[alejandroez85]

Pero que pasa si el sistema automatico llega a fallar no estando en modo elicoptero.

[iciervasotomayor]

@alejandroez85 Es un autogiro, podría posarse con muy poco empuje horizontal o viento de cara.

[higulino2301]

qual é o preço dessa aeronave?

[quinquin1254]

Formidable !!! 

[jl3125465]

Demasiado complejo, sobre todo en la operación del rotor principal.

[ExternalCleaners]

Super Mario's chopper...

[vasilesusan]

stupid old project

[Voxnulla]

That fucking cartoon will never fly. at least not stable or economically.

[MrAgusto331]

this is very good!!!

[147onyx]

wot stops torque yaw

[Leopoldo888]

@147onyx It's clearly explained by the speaker! (Ohh you don't understand spanish, what a pity).

[147onyx]

@Leopoldo888 No dont speak spanish do i have to learn to find out or can u tell me tanks

[Leopoldo888]

@147onyx OK. Torque is compensated by the two engines, that is, if the torque makes the tail of the heli-plane turn left, the engines will compensate, givin more strenght to the right engine and even making the left engine go in reverse... (Sorry, my english it's not so good either, but I think yo can catch the idea)

[mercanaries3]

we already have a way better version

its called the F-35.

[crazyivan030983]

@mercanaries3 nice :D:D:D

[mercanaries3]

@crazyivan030983

lol this is just plain stupid

[mercanaries3]

@crazyivan030983

LOL

[davetileguy]

yet another future computerized yet to be built dream.

[215alessio]

ask the UE to fund this invention

[mnditx]

no esta explicado la transicion del motor en paso negativo una vez entrado en el modo autogiro...

[barbarotico]

y cuanto cuesta esa chatarra volante

[231de300]

Bueno para ser español esta muy bien, no vamos a empezar fabricando un transbordador espacial no? Espero que sigan trabajando y creando puestos de trabajo especializados, espero verlo volar por ahí.

[TheChosenOne862]

looks stupid.....IS STUPID

[astrialkil]

@TheChosenOne862 They had hybrid choppers in "International combat arms" back in the late 1980's , only they were sleek like a fighter jet.

[juamfraTercioHispano]

@TheChosenOne862 pero no ves que es en 3D un prototipo no sabes lo que es eso.. -_-

[ffliar]

голимый дизайн и ацтойная система сложная дорогостоющая и менее стабильная куйня какае то )

[100corsario]

porqueria



[bangbuddy]

quite risky and unnecessary design

[BabiiaKeikoua414]

hihÌ_I_fÉÉl_sÔ_lónèly_tòÐÄý

[aleksandarrudic]

If Osprey and Heligiro were in the same RD phase, and if I had to choose one as more realistic and safer, I guess I woud chose the second. But, I'm not quite sure yet about the transition phase. Is there a realistic chance to stall the aircraft while rotor is not ready, while it is transforming, for example? And what then?

[iciervasotomayor]

@aleksandarrudic Both motors keep pushing during transitions, givin the aircraft the needed lift.

[aleksandarrudic]

@iciervasotomayor Yes. I searched a bit about the concept, the key thing I didn't know about is the autogiro efect. It should stabilise the aircraft in sub-stall speeds. Looks totaly feasible now.

[match20045]

ostiá! qué pasada los ingenieros aeronáuticos de la Politécnica!

[aklbruce]

from my point, i dont think this little craft need two engine to push forward, maybe you guys can put the engine at the back just like a mormal helicoptor, but the fan at the back can change angle to push the craft going forward, i dont know... but i think it might works

[gregoriobarros]

creo queseja impossivel.. muito caro

[81Pondus81]

A little gust in heli mode near the ground and your wings are gone..

[iciervasotomayor]

@81Pondus81 good point

[bentoliptos]

Gostei muito. As boas ideias devem ser colocadas em prática.

[Leopoldo888]

@kalashnikov¿? Para nada!

[onecheman]

La verdad que es una gran idea y un gra prototipo, lo único que veo en contra, es que es demasiado complejo sin necesidad, esto dará un precio muy elevado.

Y digo esto por que el "modo helicóptero" podría ser sustituido. Se podría usar aire sangrado de los turbohélices, o como el sistema del Fairey Rotodyne o algo parecido para evitar la existencia de par.

[wantutrip]

cannot even fly , the main propeller must be at least two to counter the rotation of each other,.. otherwise it will just spin around

[karbengo]

@wantutrip You probably didn't catch it, but the two small proppellers have variable pitch. During the vertical mode the main rotor is powered and the two small rotor blades are pitched to counteract the torque (one push backward the other forward). When transistionning, the main rotor is stoped and the small rotor becomes the proppellers of the plane. This machine can transit from an helicopter, trough a gyrocopter to a biplane and reverse.

[karbengo]

@wantutrip As I said, the small proppeller have variable pitch. The blades can swivel from forward to neutral to backward posotion. That means the thrust can be reversed in flight. While the aircaft gain speed, the load is transfered from the main rotor to the fixed wings. then the main rotor is decoupled from the rotor. Now in autogyro mode, no torque needs to be counterd, and both proppellers are set to push the craft forward.

[bellendbrie]

Looks cool



[leloodallasmultipass]

where are its ears?

[artai94]

es muy muy interesante.... es una muy buena idea no se... pero molaría verdo en uno de verdad....

[TheLoLunator]

its effective and seems practical but its so odd looking

[215alessio]

smart thinking, great plane It should work and can also be safe because it has a freewheeling rotor during landing. as long as the fly by wire doesn't malfunction.

[molendomolo]

This video not belogs to helicat and it isn´t a heligiro. This video belogs to INTA and is a prototype of helicopter convetible to plane, not a heligiro.

It´s first prototype is actually under construction in Galicia(Spain) by tekplus.

[iciervasotomayor]

@molendomolo No.

[bnther36]

Looks like a funny version of the Carter Copter

[stealhty1]

simple planes crashes, now imagine this SUPER complex flying machine

good luck with that

[myheadisonwrong]

Actually, this is as simple as it gets. Very safe design. Power fails, it just glides down. All the bonuses of a heli and fixed wing combined.

[americanrealist1]

lol I wonder how many they fit in this thing.

[diamondrio21]

omfg i almost shit myself when i read your comment, that is so fuckin funny roflmao

[NWOpartycrasher]

This is what we need for personal travel no more land vehicles!!!!

[volodymyrm1]

are you kidding i would never give up my pump gas v8

[brandt19699]

OH, SO IT'S NOT ACTUALLY REAL THEN.

[a17lancer]

Una gran obra de la ingenieria, hay que felicitar a esas mentes brillantes! pero con que licencia deberá pilotarse el aparato? hay que tener conocimientos sobre 3 tipos de vuelo.

[josema5]

En principio se trata de un avion no tripulado. Supongo q seran fabricados para q la Guardia Civil y la Armada controlen el trafico de drogas y la inmigracion ilegal. Aunq serviria tb como avion de reconocimiento del ejercito en misiones internacionales.

[molendomolo]

No es que sea un avion no tripulado sino que habra varias versiones, desde los no tripulados ( Amada, Guardia Civil, salvamento...) y tambien los habra tripulados.

Pronto lo veremos volar ya que actualmente se esta ensamblando el primer prototipo en Porriño (Galicia) por Tekplus. un saludo.

[EdgarInventor]

Fantástico!

Espanha está de parabéns.

Ao Inventor ou Inventores, a minha sicera homenagem.

[freezatron]

brilliant,

Ugly !

but brilliant

wing tips look vunerable in landing and take off & the weight of them might feel odd in the hover, especially in turbulent air.

they just need to make it sexy looking though :)

[Mrpantymelt]

You guys are just a bunch of naysayers, I'm sure it would work fine, its an autogyro so it doesnt need to cancel torque. Quit bashing things you dont understand lol

[HonestJohn60]

Would this have 3 engines?

I agree, too many moving parts.

A 3rd enging would make the cockpit very noisy, and small.?.

I like the look!

[VERGIS92]

if you asked a WWii era enginneer about

making an aircraft like Harrier or F35 he'd say it'd be impossible due to instability risks, and control problems etc

this is where control systems identifies

all areas of risk, stability, flight control and even the risk of destructive resonance

from the engine, there had been enormous design mistakes up until the 60's - 70's that even caused deadly crashes due to the abscence of control systems as we know them now

[stevebean1234]

interesting idea.

a lot of moving parts which is not an ideal thing. also i find it hard to believe those tiny propellor engines (especially with their close placement on the wing) would be able to cancel all of the torque a helicopter engine creates.

[NSResponder]

That's a very clever idea. Using the propellors for torque cancellation would be difficult for a human to control properly, but leaving it up to the computer makes it a whole different story.

-jcr

[excimero]

magnifica idea!!! deberia tener uso militar para el ejercito del aire español y tambien para el ejercito europeo.(eurocorp).

[freidenki]

estupendo, es un buen conception y creo que este idea functiona, muy bien.

pero es tambien un grande problemo technico para controllar todas los functionas, hay que estudiarlos. costa muchos dineros.

[Wingmonkey1]

this idea will never work, im 15yo and know it wont work........first of all the torue of the heli blades would make the aircraft spin uncontrolablely 2 the right unless the right engine was exetremely powerful....second the blade would not stop rotating after the engine was cut, it would then act as a gyrocopter, and keep spining

[grafight]

first:

The torque of the blades in helicopter mode is compensated by one of the engines spinning in the opposite direction.

Second:

The blades in autogyro mode are free wheeling, but there is a brake that stops them once the craft is going fast enough for the wings to provide the lift. Then they fold back as they show and the craft transitions from autogyro to airplane.

[VERGIS92]

lame human eye observations have never been the methodology science uses! control systems is the science

that deals with aircraft control problems

and I can assure you is 100% mathematics all the way  from the sensors to the main computer program..

so let them figure out if it's possible or not

[stevebean1234]

i dont know what you're trying to say. there isnt much continuity.

however, people are claiming this isnt going to work based on the physics of the whole thing.

math doesn't solve the worlds problems, and math in engineering generally begins with a physical analysis or free body diagram of the system. this is what matters most; this is what the math is based upon

[VERGIS92]

I don't know much about aeronautics but it's physics too, I work in RF electronics

and everything can be modelled using theoritical work and equations, the equations can tell you right away how far

electromagnetic signal can travel, noise/interefrence etc,

aircraft such as the Harrier (vertical take off/landing) would have been impossible

without modern control systems theory

(which is nothing but advanced math,)

[izne]

(chuckle)

[wwwjeafcom]

Muy interesante!

[BertusHH]

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[BertusHH]

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[TakeLife2TheExtreme]

Ugliest craft on earth, but it would be cool to own if real.

[wraithman07]

Better solution... tilt rotor.

[TheOnlyFenny]

I dunno...I think it's a pretty cool idea.

[cypber]

useless

[helipr0]

like you say

[TokyoCruiser]

Japanese and Spanish Engineering

is #1 in the WORLD!!!!!

[myso2008]

TokyoCruiser, i love for that to be true, but I'm sorry to tell you, blue prints made in Europe ! lol everything the world has is western made in Europe first and blue prints licensed to other countries. as for Spanish Engineering, I'm still wondering why they use German cars in their police force lol.

[myso2008]

what a ugly design

[wolfekeeper]

It does seem to be hopelessly overcomplicated.

[temala1]

Nothing new here. Fairey Aviation had something similar flying in the 1950's called the Gyrodyne, followed by the Jet Gyrodyne and ending up with the 90 ft rotor dia Rotodyne!

[elmorzzi]

¿Fairey Aviation? In the 20's the spanish engineer Juan de la Cierva invented Autogiro 30 years before Fairey.

[juzzlookin]

Looks feasible, aerodynamically its a disaster, and the wings upon landing lend themselves to damage in anything but perfect weather conditions. The rotor hub may be problematic in its complexity, so design would be the make or break of such a design, very interesting though.

[asesinomortal2]

jajajaj la polla el eligiro ese jaajja

[librano]

that looks like the brown hornet's plane/jet thingy

[llldeceptionlll]

This looks so fucking stupid.

[srbrunoaf]

Sure, looks great, but... I think it wont work... At least one thing... Chopper to Autogiro... The Chopper uses the side props counter rotating to avoid self rotation, right? And the Autogiro uses both forward for speed, if I'm not mistaken... Then... When you take the backthrusting prop and slowly stop it to then stat rotating to make forward thrust for the autogiro, wouldn't it start to spin like crazy???? If it doesn't happen then, I'm sure it will when it becomes a plane!

[amigovino]

Don't be crazy, the reverse thrust is nod made by stopping the engine and running it in oposite spin, it is made by changung the geometry of the rotor. The same way it is done on standard planes that use rotor engines during landing to brake the plane.

[srbrunoaf]

O-kay...

Now it makes sense... Thanks...

[trancavinCH]

it looks impossible that a similar elicopter reaches 550kph only with 2 small props...and i think it's not very aerodynamic...

[Capt777harris]

Autogyros actually used to be fairly popular in the 1930s. This is a more compact design, but it's essentially the same thing, only with the added "folding rotary blade".

[theunholysoul]

It looks like a flying sperm!

[thismanonfire]

my sperm sometimes flies--out my two story bedroom, and onto my neighbors.

[Mrjoeplaya10]

The best mexican invention is a solar powered flashlight

[impazzitoinvolo]

Pero existe o no èste Heligiro? ful size, RC?

[peepeevagi]

It's an awesome idea, but there no point.

Sure, it's revolutionary in design, but, nobody's gonna buy the damn thing.

[BLEACH01Z]

wow longibando your like some mexican hitler

[longibando]

Yes. I married The Hitler's secret grandaugther, and moved to Antarctica. But don't be wrong, I hate mexicans, and all southern americans, (and they hate me), cos they are distorting spanish language. I don't understand mexican very well, but it stinks. Spanish must be for the Spaniards. It's our blame and our penitence, for invading south America. Too late.

[ionitron]

muy buena idea aunque compleja, y la mecanica compleja es cara de mantener y tiene mas posibilidades de fallo, pero bueno..

ADELANTE EL INGENIO ESPAÑOL!!!!!!

[longibando]

Sí, es una buena idea. Y sí, es compleja. Pero si el V22 Osprey de los yanquis no es también increíblemente complejo, que venga Dios y lo vea. Lo que hace falta es seguir investigando, simplificando, mejorando. Yo creo humildemente que la tecnología actual por fin nos permite hacer este tipo de cosas.

Si se consigue que todo sea automático y seguro, debería tener una oportunidad.

[pilotman329]

It would help if you spoke ENGLISH! Fucking beaners!

[felipedelbosque]

It would help more if you learned to speak spanish you fucking ignorant.

[pilotman329]

Why would I want to do some stupid shit like that? Go eat some more rice and beans... But back in Mexico, please...

[longibando]

No, no... You're wrong. It's not a mexican video. (There are a lot of countries speaking spanish. Nor Venezuelan, nor argentinian...)

You have chosen the wrong continent. It's not america. Neither northern nor southern.

Try again. Remember your school days!

There is no place to fit another country in America.Its already plenty of people. Too much people. A trivia? Look in Asia. Yes. Maybe near South Korea! Or in Antarctica. Of course! in Antarctica! Well done!

[longibando]

Well, I think learning languages is a beautiful challenge. I hope you speak anything more than english. It's sounds so primitive...French is wonderful!

Then, you'll can socialize with your spanish speaking neighbours. If you don't have, don't worry and be patient. You'll have in a few years.

Maybe you could socialize and having fun with your children's classmates, or your daughter's new boyfriend, your workmates, dad's girlfriend or mom's recent friend and neighbours.

[longibando]

Perhaps you'll have a spanish speaker grandson someday. In twenty years, spanish will be common use and even co-official language in some US states, due to the growing south american population. And you'll have to deal with it or leave. It's the sign of times. It's globalization. And it's inevitable. Don't tell me you have not seen any piñata party. Well, I'm not. Here in Europe, we don't have those things. And we know piñatas for having seen on american films. Learn french, or german! Enjoy!

[longibando]

I think translation is unnecessary. Please, don't tell me you cannot understand the graphics. I think it's very simple.

[pilotman329]

Dude, I don't give a shit about no pinatas! Whatever the fuck that is... But I do speak other languages besides English, namely GERMAN AND FRENCH, though my French needs a little practice. And, no my grandson will NOT speak Spanish! The South American 3rd World countries can't change that with migration... Spanish is one of the most retarded and ugliest "languages" in the world, if you wanna call it a language...

[longibando]

Well, Weeeeell...Take it easy. Sure your be alive, and not disabled at his/her adulthood? Do you think your pretty little (or still unborn) grandson will be your puppet? No, no. Manipulating (little) people it's no a good idea, mainly whether he/she has spanish speaker mates, friends, neighbours, boss or bed-mates (fucking friends, I think it's said at these modern times)

You could ruin his/her life.

[longibando]

Just imagine the boss follows an on-line spanish learning method (there are a lot), and he is proud of his progress. He thinks spanish is easy and cool. He makes a commentary about it, and your grandson/grandaughter disagree categorically. Sure this poor boss will dislike it. What a disaster! Ruined job, position and life!

You speak three languages? Great!

And...What if the kid liked spanish? If he got a degree in spanish philology? Would you throw out of your house? Would reject him?

[pilotman329]

Believe me, my kid or grandson will not HAVE to speak Spanish...If he likes it, that's his free will, but he won't HAVE to. Just 'cause you fucking beaners can't integrate yourselves, don't mean the the world's gonna adapt to your miserable lives or language for that matter!

[longibando]

Yes, you are right. Mexicans and Southern Americans are stupid. I hate them, but here, in Spain, we think they are doing the hardest (and dirtiest) job: expanding our language. Even whether they must suffer or die, or get jailed. Hehehe. Their overpopulation, their urge to breed and illegal inmigration is unstoppable. Hehehehe.

Your descendants will must learn spanish. Thaks to those stupid mexicans. Hehehehehe.

[39vdnw]

Look whois stupid. You cannot even spell properly.

[longibando]

Piñatas are a mexican invention, for the fiestas. Children like it very much.

[pilotman329]

You're not talking about them things hanging from a tree filled with candy where the kids have to beat it blindfolded with a stick until it breaks and releases its contents, now are you? Seen it in movies, but no one really does it where I live...

[longibando]

Yes, that's it. Although I preffer do not imitate foreign celebrations and habits (I wouldn't want to see it here), I admit it's a funny play for children.

Is like Halloween. It is imitated cause it's funny. Halloween is a very old celebation, from ancient celtic tribes, adopted in the Anglo Saxon World until our days, and I must say, it's expanding troughout Southern Europe. Small people enjoy it here very much, as do in America.

In the Mediterranean World, we don't celebrate this night.

[longibando]

However, it is (or it was) traditional, on the following day, visiting cemeteries to honour the ancestors.

Here, as everywhere, young people think more and more only in having fun, and traditions get lost.

On the other hand, we have carnivals since Middle Age, with its origin in roman and greek celebrations. We brought this when invading South America, and had success. Those peoples having been recreating it for centuries, because it's funny. I'm sure this tradition won't get lost.

[longibando]

As to the USA concerns, I know 4th of July, Thanksgiving Day, Halloween (of course) and have heard about Mardi Gras in New Orleans, as carnival is calling there.

[narutobalmung]

Wo , que raro , por fin acemos alguna cosa decente los españoles jeje.

[longibando]

No, si inventores hay muchos. Lo que no hay es pasta para desarrollar, construir, refinar y comercializar la idea, por no hablar de la respuesta del mercado. No basta una buena idea. Si no se vende, na de na. Pero ni aquí ni en otros sitios. Mira a los de Cartercopter, intentándoles vender más o menos la misma moto al ejército yanqui. Y no hay manera. Si no eres Locheed o Boeing o EADS, no te comes un torrao.

[longibando]

Y además, creo que debes de ser joven, porque de La Cierva ya había inventado algunas otras cosillas tan importantes como el autogiro y cosas así. Y qué suerte ha corrido el autogiro? Na de na. El ruso Sikorsky sí que ha triunfado, con el rollo de su helicóptero. Si es que encima tenemos mala suerte. Mala suerte de cojones. Y eso que el autogiro podría tener perfectamente su lugar en la aviación moderna, pero nada.

[longibando]

Por lo visto, querido compatriota, lo que todavía no "acemos" bien los españoles es escribir correctamente, porque "acemos" se escribe con h.

[rhgrsh]

in aviation it's ft and kts ! no Km/h and m

and 550 Km/h with this little engine!

sincerly i don't think more 300 !!!

and the main rotor and this machine is too complicated

More pilot dont like cirrus because it's more complicated so imagine this !

the problem is the price ! a complicated machine like that is too heavy to be registred in ultra light aircraft.

[longibando]

No! Down with the damned English Imperial Measure System! Down with the inches, knots and feet! Long live the Decimal Metric System! Forever!

[rhgrsh]

why ? hehehe i learn that !!

[TECNOLOGIARAUL]

se ha fabricado alguno ya?

[Nasser90santour]

Si Si Me gusta mucho :-D ... Muy calliete HAHAHAH De puta madre xD

[Sqito1]

Ingenious! I think it would probably be very complicated from the engineering standpoint, but is still possible and doable.

[pcwhizmail]

Awesome Copter/Plane. I'd love to see one of these some day.

[OghamTheBold]

Good idea - but mad toy shape - I'd buy the rc version.

Now I know the Spanish for 'Fly By Wire' as well

[alwaysoldchevys]

"fly by wire" LOL

[lavishfaraz]

ultimate