He was hand ridden in most of his races. He retired to early because, during a workout they discovered the quarter crack again. Worse than the last time. It would have been too painful for him to race in the Classic. Like how he finished in the belmont. People said he was 'Esposed' but actually that idiot dutrow decided to let him run with a super-glued hoof crack.
Just because u win the most money dosent really mean anything, in 100 years a handicapper could be retired with 11,000,000 winnings dosent mean hes the greatest ever horse
big browns owner sucks...never brought him to saratoga and retires him before the breeders cup.a horse that wasn't given a chance to run the great races of his time.
I wish he could've raced again too. But, Big Brown's original owner did debut him at Saratoga. Big Brown couldn't run in the Breeders Cup because he hurt his foot while preparing for the Breeders Cup Classic. And then his breeding contract planned for him to be retired by December 1st anyway--that's where he is now.
espn said he is the pasture and he going to stud....love to hear differently.someone told me he did run at saratoga in 2007....i musta been drunk then.I still think he took a dive at the belmont stakes.how does his shoe get put on like crap the biggest day of that horses life??
The Red Rocks connections would beg to differ,saying that,i think Curlin is an outstanding horse,but if you dare think another horse might beat him,you are suddenly branded funny.
jdgodchaser29,Here's what the Handicappers had to say... We're also constantly updating our list of the 50 top horses, and she is joint-second [with Duke Of Marmalade] on 127, only 3lb behind the top-rated, Curlin. Many forget she was receiving a 3lb sex allowance, which if applied to our list, would bring her out as the same horse as Curlin.Not that good eh?the same as Curlin by all accounts,or do you know more than the handicappers?
So if Curlin wins and Duke of Marmalade is a close 2nd,will you still find it funny?Zarkava beat every horse that was put against her,never mind what she beat,it was the manner of her wins,exceptional acceleration.
Again, dont matter, Rags was 100000 times faster than Da'Tara...so what does that say for Brown? and Curlin had a horrid stretch battle with Rags being pinned on that rail
if the ending wouldn't be so devasting I'd say match race would be best because in other races there aare other horses in the way it be a shame all this fuss that Big brown or Curlin would win then one of the other horses did..
But I'm perrty sure Match races are still banned my fam onwns a TB farm and we breed races horses but we don't race..we train them to rce then sell em but we never race em
dutrow: "I dont know why people think Curlin is such a good horse?" besides the breeders cup classic as a 3 year old, and dubai world cup i'm not sure either. Has Big Brown beat a horse yet that someone will remember?
Dutrow is an arrogant prick. Curlin is a fantastic horse, and so is Big Brown. Big Brown hasn't given everything he has yet, Curlin has. So we know what Curlin's capable of, but what is Big Brown capable of?
I like them both both are great horses but I don't think bb is "way better than curlin" or viceversa like many fans do believe it because they think curlin has beaten better horses... ??? better horses as far as what ? racing it's about speed it's not who u r beating but how fast u can run.Excuse the comparison but like in the olympics who ever has the fastest run is the fastest athlete so who really knows if curlin is faster than bb according to statistics ?
I think it's too bad Curlin won't be racing against Big Brown any time soon. Rick Dutrow talks about how superior Big Brown is, but keeps declining invitations to meet up with Curlin. Personally, I think the Jockey CLub Gold Cup woud be a great place for both to meet, or maybe the Clark 4 months after the Classic.
Hm.. Sorry, but I have to disagree. Who was the horse of the year? CURLIN. Who one the freeking Dubai World Cup? CURLIN.
Who finished dead last in the Belmont? BIG BROWN.
In my opinion, Big Brown isn't the superhorse he may seem to be. The steroids sure did a great deal of helping him win in the beginning of his career. His winning the Haskell wasn't very impressive....
Yeah.... But I guess we'll just see who comes out on top in October.
The Haskell wasn't impressive? Big Brown appeared to be defeated again, but he threw whatever was left forward to win. His effort in the race was incredibly impressive. .
the trainer of this horse is so annoying... and he makes me laugh when he said that BB is far superior to CURLIN...hello BB is a good horse but not great as CURLIN is,, Curlin beat the best of the world while BB is working his ass out so hard to beat a very sizeable field in the haskell..still dutrow think he is superior to curlin..your nuts dutrow...(4 give me in my english)
Curlin is a way better horse than Big Brown, He has had tougher races than Big Brown, Curlin got beat by a girl by a head and what did Big Brown do? went last place to a weak field hahah. I still think Big Brown is a fine horse but not better than Curlin.
@carlykaiser Big Brown only finished last in the Belmont because he had hurt his ankle earlier and during the race his jockey didn't want Big Brown to end up like Barbaro. So he held him back.
Rags to Riches won because she was fresh. Curlin had run in both the Derby and the Preakness, while Rags to Riches's last start was the Kentucky Oaks.
No, but Curlin also fought hard that day when Johnny V had him pinned in so hard that Robby couldnt right hand him or he'd hit the filly, Johnny knew Curlin was no good with left hand drive...Curlin would have won. He has developed into a superhorse.
Hey, Why dont you also do Big Brown vs Chuck Norris.. if an actual race did not happen, don't put your video montage as a race.. what a scam
naridon 6 months ago
zenyatta can do it with ease
albundy340 1 year ago
@albundy340 Invasor can beat Barbaro,big brown,curling,zenyatta...
ribalzo 1 year ago
@albundy340 Zenyatta sucks..
johnofohu123 2 weeks ago
Big Brown's the overrated one... Pushed to hard, unsound, retired early.
He can't beat the leading North American money earner. ( Curlin )
dustywhipp5 2 years ago
@dustywhipp5
He was hand ridden in most of his races. He retired to early because, during a workout they discovered the quarter crack again. Worse than the last time. It would have been too painful for him to race in the Classic. Like how he finished in the belmont. People said he was 'Esposed' but actually that idiot dutrow decided to let him run with a super-glued hoof crack.
queenluciaa 1 year ago
Zarkava would eat dirt for breakfast
dessiesdoneit 2 years ago
Curlin Is king of the dirt , wouldve beat zarkava
GypsyFunk94 2 years ago
Dont think so because he cant run on anything but dirt, and a great horse like Zarkava would never be ran on muck
dessiesdoneit 2 years ago
Curlin just broke the World record for the most winnings for a race horse. 10,000,000.
Beat that!
rideshorse05 3 years ago 4
Just because u win the most money dosent really mean anything, in 100 years a handicapper could be retired with 11,000,000 winnings dosent mean hes the greatest ever horse
dessiesdoneit 2 years ago
That is a good point. I still think Curlin is better though, just from seeing them both run. :)
rideshorse05 2 years ago
big browns owner sucks...never brought him to saratoga and retires him before the breeders cup.a horse that wasn't given a chance to run the great races of his time.
BetePete 3 years ago
I wish he could've raced again too. But, Big Brown's original owner did debut him at Saratoga. Big Brown couldn't run in the Breeders Cup because he hurt his foot while preparing for the Breeders Cup Classic. And then his breeding contract planned for him to be retired by December 1st anyway--that's where he is now.
horseracingfans 3 years ago
umm big brown isent retired
all4pharlap 3 years ago
espn said he is the pasture and he going to stud....love to hear differently.someone told me he did run at saratoga in 2007....i musta been drunk then.I still think he took a dive at the belmont stakes.how does his shoe get put on like crap the biggest day of that horses life??
BetePete 3 years ago
the jockey or trainer was got at
dessiesdoneit 2 years ago
and i still don't understand how his shoe is all messed on the biggest day of his life....hope big brown is makin some babies somewhere.
BetePete 2 years ago
cool, but i don't like this song!
horseluver1699 3 years ago
Curlin seemed to throw in the towel.
krisstruss 3 years ago
Curlin is overated.
ghostzapper2006 3 years ago
The Red Rocks connections would beg to differ,saying that,i think Curlin is an outstanding horse,but if you dare think another horse might beat him,you are suddenly branded funny.
krisstruss 3 years ago
zarkava would destroy curlin on the turf.....not too sure about the dirt
nickdriver08 3 years ago
Personally,i think Zarkava would have beaten everyone on any surface,but i guess we will never know.
krisstruss 3 years ago
cant see on dirt- its normally one or the other.. maybe poly
Willyrooster 3 years ago
jdgodchaser29,Here's what the Handicappers had to say... We're also constantly updating our list of the 50 top horses, and she is joint-second [with Duke Of Marmalade] on 127, only 3lb behind the top-rated, Curlin. Many forget she was receiving a 3lb sex allowance, which if applied to our list, would bring her out as the same horse as Curlin.Not that good eh?the same as Curlin by all accounts,or do you know more than the handicappers?
krisstruss 3 years ago
Makes no difference,Zarkava the French filly would beat them both.
krisstruss 3 years ago
Yeah she was a nice horse, hope she enjoys retirement.
109367 3 years ago
LOL, krisstruss you are so funny. Yes, she is good but not that good. And who was her competiton again? How many horses in the top 10 worldwide?
jdgodchaser29 3 years ago
So if Curlin wins and Duke of Marmalade is a close 2nd,will you still find it funny?Zarkava beat every horse that was put against her,never mind what she beat,it was the manner of her wins,exceptional acceleration.
krisstruss 3 years ago
Again, dont matter, Rags was 100000 times faster than Da'Tara...so what does that say for Brown? and Curlin had a horrid stretch battle with Rags being pinned on that rail
LestatMonCopain 3 years ago
Big Brown didnt even finish the Belmont, blame the horse shoe yeah right, i saw him ran outta gas before the last turn.
aftersh0ck 3 years ago
Terrible tribute!! No respect.
cmf4321 3 years ago 2
Crappy music. Typical of today's mentality. And this is suppose to be a tribute:-(
cmf4321 3 years ago 3
Curlin got 130 & 131 Time form ratings in Dubia. 119 BSF in Classic. Big Brown hasn't come close to that.
stivo1975 3 years ago 2
if the ending wouldn't be so devasting I'd say match race would be best because in other races there aare other horses in the way it be a shame all this fuss that Big brown or Curlin would win then one of the other horses did..
But I'm perrty sure Match races are still banned my fam onwns a TB farm and we breed races horses but we don't race..we train them to rce then sell em but we never race em
mommaslittleman 3 years ago
Throw in Zenyatta and it won't be a match race anymore...and adding her will be twice as thrilling.
bigbrownfan12345 3 years ago
@bigbrownfan12345 She would loose ..
johnofohu123 2 weeks ago
i still think 8 belles is the best,
Countrystallion123 3 years ago
dutrow: "I dont know why people think Curlin is such a good horse?" besides the breeders cup classic as a 3 year old, and dubai world cup i'm not sure either. Has Big Brown beat a horse yet that someone will remember?
Willyrooster 3 years ago
Dutrow is an arrogant prick. Curlin is a fantastic horse, and so is Big Brown. Big Brown hasn't given everything he has yet, Curlin has. So we know what Curlin's capable of, but what is Big Brown capable of?
sugarpuppy137 3 years ago
I like them both both are great horses but I don't think bb is "way better than curlin" or viceversa like many fans do believe it because they think curlin has beaten better horses... ??? better horses as far as what ? racing it's about speed it's not who u r beating but how fast u can run.Excuse the comparison but like in the olympics who ever has the fastest run is the fastest athlete so who really knows if curlin is faster than bb according to statistics ?
AIRE000000 3 years ago
Do beyer figures count as 'statistics'? 'cuz Curlin has a 119 beyer, versus big brown's 109.
bigbrownfan12345 3 years ago 2
I think it's too bad Curlin won't be racing against Big Brown any time soon. Rick Dutrow talks about how superior Big Brown is, but keeps declining invitations to meet up with Curlin. Personally, I think the Jockey CLub Gold Cup woud be a great place for both to meet, or maybe the Clark 4 months after the Classic.
bigbrownfan12345 3 years ago
Hm.. Sorry, but I have to disagree. Who was the horse of the year? CURLIN. Who one the freeking Dubai World Cup? CURLIN.
Who finished dead last in the Belmont? BIG BROWN.
In my opinion, Big Brown isn't the superhorse he may seem to be. The steroids sure did a great deal of helping him win in the beginning of his career. His winning the Haskell wasn't very impressive....
Yeah.... But I guess we'll just see who comes out on top in October.
ashlau414n 3 years ago
The Haskell wasn't impressive? Big Brown appeared to be defeated again, but he threw whatever was left forward to win. His effort in the race was incredibly impressive. .
sugarpuppy137 3 years ago
Hah. Can't wait for this race. Curlin is going to beat Big Brown's big brown butt. Lmao. Big Brown is amazing, but not as half as amazing as Curlin!
ashlau414n 3 years ago
the trainer of this horse is so annoying... and he makes me laugh when he said that BB is far superior to CURLIN...hello BB is a good horse but not great as CURLIN is,, Curlin beat the best of the world while BB is working his ass out so hard to beat a very sizeable field in the haskell..still dutrow think he is superior to curlin..your nuts dutrow...(4 give me in my english)
marc19ar 3 years ago
Curlin is a way better horse than Big Brown, He has had tougher races than Big Brown, Curlin got beat by a girl by a head and what did Big Brown do? went last place to a weak field hahah. I still think Big Brown is a fine horse but not better than Curlin.
TuanVHa 3 years ago
Henrythenavigator will beat both of them come November.
aford1986 3 years ago
im 4 curlin his trainer lives in my town!!!!!
ruffianrulz 3 years ago
people who think big brown's better 'cause he didn't lose to a girl that's not true.
Curlin was still developing as a racehorse and wasn't NEARLY as good then as he is now.
dinney123 3 years ago 2
Rags could beat BB anyday....
fastwest433 3 years ago 2
Rags could beat Curlin AND BB anyday, she won the belmont cause she was the best horse.
Brightstar6366 3 years ago 2
Ay, but Curlin never finished last
carlykaiser 3 years ago 4
@carlykaiser Big Brown only finished last in the Belmont because he had hurt his ankle earlier and during the race his jockey didn't want Big Brown to end up like Barbaro. So he held him back.
christina7513 6 months ago
Rags to Riches won because she was fresh. Curlin had run in both the Derby and the Preakness, while Rags to Riches's last start was the Kentucky Oaks.
bigbrownfan12345 3 years ago 3
yeah but Big Brown never lost to a girl
hollywud4ever357 3 years ago
No, but Curlin also fought hard that day when Johnny V had him pinned in so hard that Robby couldnt right hand him or he'd hit the filly, Johnny knew Curlin was no good with left hand drive...Curlin would have won. He has developed into a superhorse.
LestatMonCopain 3 years ago
very cool
eyelovemyhorses 3 years ago 2
Gracias Adrian excelente video, esperamos este gran encuentro en el B.C. Classic en Santa Anita, a ver quien es el mejor.
figueroakelvin 3 years ago
Curlin has beaten stiffer competition than Big Brown has. BB is an excellent horse, but Curlin is better.
bigbrownfan12345 3 years ago