in the hammer you are sitting against the ball and moving across the ring so I am not sure that this would be comparable to a golf swing. Maybe the winds only would be slightly comparable.
It's very comparable to the winds...and very relative to the spins...obviously there is different amounts of force needed between the two...there is also a different plane. The Hammer on a plane to be released up at an angle commensurate with the amount the plane is angled down in Golf. The real benefit to thinking of the Golf swing in this way is that the only gyrations and body motions you make are to satisfy the inertia of the swinging implement...much like the Hammer throw.
as the clubhead is moving towards the ball right before impact, the clubhead is probably closest to its maximum speed I would guess. It seems the maximum amount of countering by the golfer would be needed. It seems the proper club head path would be altered by this countering. It may be a small amount of movement but enough to make for a miss-hit ball. Only a thought. I am no golfer.
On the contrary, it not only doesn't alter it...it keeps it on path without the need to manipulate or push/pull the orbiting mass side to side. The maximum countering is merely a stabilization at a pre-determined/understood impact alignment/position. The more a Golfer feels they are accelerating the club to that point the less effective their transfer generally is, of the energy to the clubhead.
When the club is in front, the golfer is pressuring back with the lumbar spine (which is why I believe Hogan said to stand as erect as possible with weight more toward the heels and a heavy backside). When the club mass goes behind the golfer is staying out in the thoracic. In transition you do both which keeps the club orbiting freely. Rory McIlroy does the upper spine part as well or better than anybody...similar to Hogan. Hogan was better with the legs and lower spine.
Great analogy using a feature of another sport to show a critical element in the golf swing. As a former phys ed teacher I have continually used features of other sports to help teach beginners in golf skills.
I grew up on a farm. we used to hammer throw with a sledge hammer when we didn't want to pound fence posts anymore.
An analogy I have used is throwing branches or roots into a bush.
Have subscribed to your Youtube site.
Thank you for the nice comment about my firm ankles.
in the hammer you are sitting against the ball and moving across the ring so I am not sure that this would be comparable to a golf swing. Maybe the winds only would be slightly comparable.
SuperOlds88 7 months ago
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It's very comparable to the winds...and very relative to the spins...obviously there is different amounts of force needed between the two...there is also a different plane. The Hammer on a plane to be released up at an angle commensurate with the amount the plane is angled down in Golf. The real benefit to thinking of the Golf swing in this way is that the only gyrations and body motions you make are to satisfy the inertia of the swinging implement...much like the Hammer throw.
martinez19696 7 months ago
as the clubhead is moving towards the ball right before impact, the clubhead is probably closest to its maximum speed I would guess. It seems the maximum amount of countering by the golfer would be needed. It seems the proper club head path would be altered by this countering. It may be a small amount of movement but enough to make for a miss-hit ball. Only a thought. I am no golfer.
SuperOlds88 7 months ago
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On the contrary, it not only doesn't alter it...it keeps it on path without the need to manipulate or push/pull the orbiting mass side to side. The maximum countering is merely a stabilization at a pre-determined/understood impact alignment/position. The more a Golfer feels they are accelerating the club to that point the less effective their transfer generally is, of the energy to the clubhead.
martinez19696 7 months ago
ok, when the hammer is going through the pendulum motion, the thrower is sitting back. What is the golfer doing to counter club head motion?
SuperOlds88 7 months ago
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When the club is in front, the golfer is pressuring back with the lumbar spine (which is why I believe Hogan said to stand as erect as possible with weight more toward the heels and a heavy backside). When the club mass goes behind the golfer is staying out in the thoracic. In transition you do both which keeps the club orbiting freely. Rory McIlroy does the upper spine part as well or better than anybody...similar to Hogan. Hogan was better with the legs and lower spine.
martinez19696 7 months ago
other than a pendulum, how do they compare?, not being a smartaleck.
SuperOlds88 7 months ago
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counterbalancing the free swinging implement.
martinez19696 7 months ago
Hi Martinez,
Great analogy using a feature of another sport to show a critical element in the golf swing. As a former phys ed teacher I have continually used features of other sports to help teach beginners in golf skills.
I grew up on a farm. we used to hammer throw with a sledge hammer when we didn't want to pound fence posts anymore.
An analogy I have used is throwing branches or roots into a bush.
Have subscribed to your Youtube site.
Thank you for the nice comment about my firm ankles.
glenzgolfmmbr 3 years ago
great comparison ! 5 stars.
h1e2x3 3 years ago
Sorry to disappoint you mate. :P
martinez19696 3 years ago
Damn Golfers Leaving Divots in our fields.
jmm121884 3 years ago
I was expecting to see the hammer land near the golfer and splash dirt on him.
jmm121884 3 years ago