Black Powder Remington 1858 Shooting Process

[lenthesniper]

je suis les enfant!!!

jaime appell chien.!!!!

[The41454145]

it took u 4 minutes to load and shoot the first shot

[sebousniper]

Oui Newhuskytwenty, en France la législation permet d'acheter librement des armes de 8ème catégorie comme le sont les répliques à poudre noire (système antérieur à 1874). Sauf le Ruger Army, qui n'a jamais existé et qui est une arme de 4 ème catégorie et pour laquelle il vous faut impérativement une autorisation.

Dans quelques années, ce ne serat certainement plus possible d'acheter des armes de 8ème catégorie en vente libre...

Seb

[GEMOO68]

@sebousniper Une honte dans ce pays ou l'on interdit tout ^^ !

[GEMOO68]

@sebousniper Une honte dans ce pays où l'on interdit tout ! J'attends le mien pour mon noël ^^ ...

[StuPedassle711]

I've found that .451 balls / conicals work perfectly in my Pietta 1858 New Army.

[sebousniper]

Yes, usually Pietta notify to use .451

Wile Uberti works with .454

[newhuskytwenty]

@sebousniper you're right, my Uberti can only use .454 balls, problem free. But if you seal seal the 451 balls with wax they will not drop out of the cilinder. Hot wax I mean, but the precision is less good with smaller balls

[sebousniper]

I m firing to the target at 25 meters

[glynamus]

did you hit the target fieldmarshal or was you just standing on a box?

[zippytheskeeter]

In addition to his questionable loading practices, this idiot is shooting without any safety glasses.

[sebousniper]

@zippytheskeeter hé hé

yes you are true i forgot them...

Thank a lot for your comment, that very interesting.

[Xxoo0o0o0ooxX]

@zippytheskeeter Did they wear safety glasses in the wild west?

[BakaHULK]

@zippytheskeeter Normally that would be a problem, but he is firing a revolver. So the chance of being hit in the eye by a red hot piece of flying brass is very low.

[99ACE97]

@zippytheskeeter what pussy seriously wears safety glasses shooting. Yes, i would sure as hell use ear protection, but not safety glasses. Maybe its different for some of you black powder guys.

[zippytheskeeter]

@99ACE97

Don't know where you shoot, but I've never been to a club/range where eye and ear protection weren't mandatory. Of course, I haven't been everywhere; but, I've seen glasses required from Maine to San Diego and and from Florida to Seattle. I'll be very surprised if you can give me a link to the regulations of any recognized shooting organization that don't mandate eye and ear protection.

[sebousniper]

@zippytheskeeter

Well, poor man are you guys.

1 year ago, you post the same words about the glasses.

I tell every body that's i forget them.

Do u understand ?

Now, if that not, i can't do anything for you.

Maybe you needed to ask to your psycho if he could help you.

[rightfredsdead]

NEVER load the powder directly from the flask into the chamber. always use a phial. if not you can cause whats known as static flash, in which case the expanding powder will shatter the steel and produce shards which will penetrate your rib cage causing organ damage.

[sebousniper]

@rightfredsdead

yes, you also could did it as you you want....

[ballygeale1]

luky u 2 have a gun like that ,are u near saint mere eglise

[peaceman859]

Aujourd'hui, ce fut ma première séance à la poudre noire. Finalement, le chargement et le nettoyage sont des étapes que j'appréhendais mais finalement qui a son charme.

[sebousniper]

@peaceman859

je suis ravi que tu tu sois amusé lors de ta 1ère séance de tir à la poudre noire.

Le chargement est une étape importante, cette vidéo ne montre que ma méthode et elle s'adresse à des utilisateurs déjà rompus aux tirs. Il y a des forums qui expliquent plus en détails les astuces avec des méthodes on ne peu plus classiques. Bon tirs !

[rightfredsdead]

how come the shooter is not using a flash over prevention grease to cap the balls ? even using 454 balls which cut a ring and a wadding you can still get flash over causing more than one additional chamber to fire accidentally. if this does happen to you, you should keep the pistol downrange and hope the ball fragments dont come back. also the shooter should really be using safety glasses.

[sebousniper]

@rightfredsdead

Don't care about flash, there is some grease in the bullet box... And, you are true, i forgot my glasses.

[rightfredsdead]

@sebousniper this is the fin. beautiful friend. this is the fin. my only only friend. the fin.

[OldDirtyRatbastard]

@rightfredsdead Wrong ! I've fired over 500 balls from my roger and spencer without ever using grease, directly sitting the ball on the powder and always leaving a lot of powder sticking to the front of the cylinder. And i've NEVER had a chain-fire of even two chambers. Nice ring of lead=100% safe.

[Dixticat]

Mais quel bourrin ...

Un peu de douceur !..

[sebousniper]

@Dixticat

En réalité je retiens ma force et ce que tu vois là c'est bien de la douceur, un effet visuel, mais tu n'es pas le seul à penser que j'avoine comme Hulk.... Je procédé ainsi parce que toutes les chambres sont remplies de poudre et de semoule, en retenant mon coup, j'évite de renverser à cause du ressac lors de cette manipulation.

Voilà maintenant ça doit t'aider à comprendre.

[chibraxial]

Superb. Ca donne envie de s'en acheter un.

[peaceman859]

@chibraxial

Par contre, c'est pas le genre d'arme à acheter si on a pas au moins 2 heures devant soi. Ca nécessite un entretien très rigoureux. Il faut démonter, lessiver, rincer, sécher, et huiler comme il faut.

Un volume de transport élevé est indispensable.

[evesplittheatom]

I wanted one so I ordered a Black powder shooter. I loaded it only once and bought me a cartridge conversion kit an hour latter. I just couldn't find the patience to deal with it. Best fire arm ever created bar-none! Such class and beauty. I had mine nickel plated for a descent price but the engraving cost me a fortune.

[chdave53]

Salut adepte de la poudre noire. Tu ne mets pas de graisse pour obstruer le barillet après ta balle?

Personnellement, moi je charge à 1,6 g de poudre, ça donne plus de sensations.

[sebousniper]

Salut chdave53,

En effet, avec le Remington 1858 tu peux monter à 2,4 grammes !!! Mais pour le tir à 25 m j'ai un meilleur résultat avec 0,85 voire 0,95 grammes.

Pour la graisse, bien sûr j'en met. Dans la boite où se trouvent mes plombs, je met toujours une belle noix de graisse et je secoue. Les plombs sont ainsi graissés et je n'ai pas à m'en foutre plein les doigts. C'est une technique comme une autre...

[peaceman859]

@chdave53

1,6 gramme, ça doit bien pousser quand même.

Perso, j'aime bien me faire un barillet à 1,8 gramme, question sensation, c'est super. J'évite quand même de dépasser un barillet par séance de tir.

[peaceman859]

@chdave53

Je voulais dire en fait que toute ma séance je la fais avec des charges cool mais c'est le dernier barillet qui est chargé à 1,8 grammes.

[thepuma1178]

Dear gc2645,

Hey bud his powder flask obviously measures a predetermined amount of powder. Note that he flips a tab to open the flask, turns it over with his finger covering the opening, then flips the tab the other direction and then can put the powder into the cylinder.

[sebousniper]

Yes, thepuma1178 is all right, nothing more to tell about the powder flask.

Just, i m plesed to read someone know about he talks.

Thanks

[gc2645]

hey bud,

never load powder out of your powder horn. good way to loose your hand. powder should go in a powder measurer and then in to the firearm.

[sebousniper]

Pour toi, je vais te répondre en français, car tu me plais beaucoup. Pourquoi je risquerai plus de perdre ma main en utilisant une poire à poudre, que toi en utilisant une doseuse ? Le travail est le même dans les deux cas. car au bout de la poire il y a une doseuse également. Est ce que tu utilises les armes à poudre noire ?

bonne traduction...

[joninwv]

Wow, you make that look like 10 times harder than it actually is. You going to destroy your loading arm torquing on it like that. You don't need nearly that much force. You should really get a loading block too, before you blow your face off.

[sebousniper]

hum... that always the same things.

u want post there to the vid, ok.

i didn't used force as strong the vid seems to look you. that's just a trick to be sure the other chambers don't shakes a lot and the powder fall out. you didn't saw really good, but that not foreced too much.

i use this gun 10 000 times, man.

so thank for the post. paw paw !

[pokemon542]

do u seriously have to do all that before you fire it

[Energi2DmaxX]

Yes you do but most people have spare cylinders they load so its just a swap.. and after 8-10 reloads you need to clean the gun.. or it will rust, black powder is dirty stuff, but then again you don't have to register this firearm in the USA and to shoot it is pretty damn cheap compaired to shooting modern cartridges. Most of all there a HOOT to shoot and the huge fireball coming out the muzzle is pretty cool too, its an old type firearm but there's just something special about shooting them

[sebousniper]

do you seriously think about a cartridge any way ?

[realgungho]

Hi - I've got exactly the same gun ! It doesn't seem to group well with 20 grains powder, but with 30 grains it groups very well for me.

[BWD1995]

Buddy I noticed that you looked down the barrel while reloading . Not the safest way to do it . But other than that great video. Colts are great but give me a Remington any day .

[sebousniper]

hi,

well, you are true : i look just to be sure the job is good, there are no risk to this level, cause i didn't put the cap before....

(may be i don't understood your post ?)

[MajestyQuickness]

Nice gun but this is hazardous practice without something to shield your eyes. Look into getting eye protection. No gun is worth damage to eye sight

[sebousniper]

yes, u are true, i forgot the glass !

[A55corn]

Jeez! What kind of black powder/substitute and how much were you using? The muzzle flash on that Remmy is wicked! I Just bought the 5.5" barreled version of this gun from Pietta. I'd like to see the look on an intruders' face when you unveil that wicked cannon.LOL. If loaded properly and stored right, these BP revolvers are one very good option for home defense. Especially if you get extra cylinders or a conversion. Nice gun.

[sebousniper]

Thanks for your comment.

Yes, you are right. On my country, these kind of firearms are free-sales. That the only one option to get gun, without authorisation of detention, as the law is it...

If you want to get free another gun kind, using cartridges, military arms, or model after 1874, you must have authorisation from firearm departement !

The Pietta's models are better now since 1995.

Good aiming !

Then, remember sentence from the gun fighters while the face off " i will burn you" !!

[spectroman2700]

sur quoi tu tires?

[fstwrtr]

great video, looks like a lot of fun

[jdude2030]

Hey nice video. Wanted to know if you are using round balls or conical bullets, and what diameter are they. I have a Pietta Remington. I use .451 dia round balls and I do not have to use that much force to seat them.

bourvil50 he has a Remington model 1858. A Colt has no top strap.

[sebousniper]

Hi Jdude, thanks for your comment.

I use 454 round bullet on this Uberti Remington. I know Pietta is already to use 451. On the vid, it seems i force to put on the bullet. But none ! cause i need force feedback when i did it, if not, the other chambers with powder (i have put in the sixth befor) could be ejected. That all !

Essential thing is you have a little circle when you seat on your bullet on the chamber. That te reason i clean it when i have finished to load the gun.

[sebousniper]

Salut,

ce serait trop long à expliquer. Tu peux aller sur le forum arme à poudre noire. Il y a tout plein d'infos qui repondront à tes questions, et même plus encore.

Cela dit, Il peut y avoir des risques de se blesser avec ces armes ( tout comme les autres),C'est fiable et les deux marques proposent des armes de bonne facture. Tu apprendra plus en allant sur ce site ou un autre qui parle des armes à poudre noire.

[bourvil50]

excellent !!!! the best viedo to learn loading a colt

[oishi222]

hehehe, right hand, left eye

what brand is that? traditions, pietta, or uberti

[sebousniper]

This replica is a product from Aldo Uberti, made in Italy.

[bakerskater135]

hay!!! goto my profile and msg my msn name if u want to talk! C

[gun1911]

WAIT STOP SHOOTING WHILE I RELOAD lol

[4darin5]

I think it's safe to say that you should only use these guns if your attacker is a quadriplegic.

[oishi222]

no, you just shouldnt own a gun at all if you can't hit your target with less then 6 shots...

[oishi222]

you shouldnt own a gun at all if you cant hit your target in under 6 shots...

these things can hit an apple at 50yrds so dont say they have poor accuracy...

and think about all the people and property around the person/thing you're shooting at...

i would reccomend you just give up cause once the shooting begins, it doesnt end untill someone is dead and if feel you will have to reload, then the chances are you would be the first to die... i know that i could put someone down at 50yrds with two

[creatine64]

nice pistol, what was your distance you were shooting to bad you did show the target after you were done

[sebousniper]

Hi

Target were at 25 meters.

[11cowboybilly]

You NEVER load this gun with a powderflask, unless you don't like your hands! All it needs is a little spark and the whole flask will go off like a handgranade.

I quess you don't take safety very serious, because you don't use safety-glasses neither. I hope I will never stand next to you on a shooting-range.......

[sebousniper]

bon, tu fais un peu comme tu as envis mon pote, si tu crois que je vais me faire exploser la figure avec cette poire à poudre, tu devrais d'abord penser à faire autre chose que de poster ici. Et je te rassure tout de suite: Je n'ai pas l'intention de me trouver à tes côtés sur un stand de tir.

PS; amuse toi bien avec ça l'ami. et si tu comprends rien, ben tanpis...

[KC0TCH]

i agree, one should always use a powder measure. make absolute certain there are no embers in the chambers as well.

[glnelson1956]

Not loading directly from a flask is a precaution generally applied to long-barreled firearms, especially rifles and shotguns using cloth patches or paper wadding as part of the loading process. Bits of paper or cloth can smolder unseen in a long barrel.

Charging a revolver direct from the flask has been standard procedure for 170+ years, based on Colt's original loading instructions. I have two Colt flyers [1851 & 1858] with loading instructions, stating exactly that!

[imbas]

170 years ago safety wasn't thought of as much of a concern. If you tried loading a black powder revolver from a flask on any legitimate shooting team, you would be quickly corrected or escorted off the range.

[glnelson1956]

There has never been a documented case of a flask exploding while loading a revolver since 1836.

The odds of you being killed or injured driving to the range are far greater than those of a flask exploding.

Logic rules here.

Petty officials love making nonsensical rules that have no basis in logic.

To each their own.

[oishi222]

i guess people just dont like the idea of having the guy beside them hold the equivilent of a grenade in their hand.

i have no problem with it though...

[glnelson1956]

Proper gun handling rules at the range are necessary as there are clearly documented cases of unsafe gun handling causing injury or death.

However, when there is no documented case of danger using a traditional loading procedure more than 150 years old, it is logical to question why such a rule is used.

A revolver can be loaded fairly quickly, when loading directly from the flask.

Home-made combustible cartridges allows a revolver to be loaded in about 2 minutes!

[imbas]

Seriously, when that sliver from the cap flies back into his eye, he'll know why he should be wearing safety glasses!

[RIVERINE]

I just ordered a '58 Remington replica.Nice to watch a pro load and shoot REAL bullets.Too bad you didn't show the target. I don't read(or speak)Francaise.How many grains of powder did you use?I can't do metric grams,either.Great video.

[ErichDorn]

Excellente vidéo pour moi qui débute.

Votre remington est-il un pietta ou un uberti?

Comment faites-vous pour doser 0,85 g de poudre alors que le bec des poires délivre le double (24 grains)?

[sebousniper]

Pour le Rem, c'est un Uberti produit en 2005. J'ai de la chance d'être tombé sur un modele en parfait état (ce n'est pas toujours le cas aujourd'hui). Pour le bec de la poire, je l'ai coupé tout simplement de façon à ce qu'il délivre 0,85 gramme de PN. Je m'en suis coupé d'autres à 1,00 gramme et 0,65 gramme pour le Navy 1851 en calibre .36

Pour y parvenir, il y a plusieurs méthodes que vous pouvez voir sur des forums par exemple, avec leur lot d'astuce.

[palssth]

Oh sorry now i understand why u sound like an retard.......you speak the french luanguage.

[palssth]

get your self an automatic gun... Cause you suck on loading....why do you sound like a retard when you speak?

[TheAtocha]

You have a wonderful old side arm.

Would you like to learn how to load and use it properly?

You are welcome to e-mail me.

[bongzilla138]

"Would you like to learn how to load and use it properly? You are welcome to e-mail me."

i'd pass on that offer coming from a guy who uses #7 birdshot for home protection...

[Zyoher]

Lol! How are you supposed to be able to fire that on the field? You'll spend 3+ minutes to load it xD!

[TheAtocha]

LOL...you are brilliant!!!!!But Stupid as a plastic bag!!!

BTW, My Wife both carry CCP in Florida; Retired Military.

In our house ....and should be yours....12 gauge pump with #7 bird shot.

On Person:

First Pull is a M1862

Second is an M1911A1

Third is a HSc Mauser

Before you speak, know what you speak about.

Try OODA

[sebousniper]

The Atocha, What you mean ? I use this process each time since 15 years, man.

Sorry for your wife.

[bongzilla138]

#7 birdshot?  try some 00 buckshot from a 3" shell unless your just trying to piss off an armed intruder.

[oishi222]

i hate people who use #7-9 birdshot....

it is only good for killing small birds.

Anything else, like dogs and other large living things, just get a face full of high speed sand that will blind them for life and make them look like they have been stabbed like a hundred times in the face with a hot nail.

i encourage people to buy guns, but i encourage them to think things through. the simple fact is that you should not have it in your gun unless you are shooting at animals under 3 pounds.

[stfmg]

La PNF fait plus de "pétard" que la PSF . Le pire des problèmes que je rencontre lors de tirs, c'est les fragments d'amorces qui viennent se loger dans le mécanisme du chien, et qui bloquent celui-ci! Si vous avez une astuce à part les rondelles en plastique...

[sebousniper]

Oui, sur un Colt,c'est difficile, il y a toujours une amorce claquée qui tombe dans le mécanisme. Sur un Rem, c'est moins fréquent. Astuce; lors du réarmement penchez votre arme sur la droite de façon à faire tomber l'amorce au moment de la rotation du barillet.Vous pouvez aussi pincez l'amorce lors de sa pose, elle tiendra encore apres le claquage.

[spectroman2700]

good job,big brother is watching you...

[stg45]

interessant .

pas de lunettes de protection ? danger.

même au 22 il arrive de recevoir un grain de poudre.

ca pete un peu fort pour du 0.85 gramme c'est la video qui donne cette impression ?

[sebousniper]

merci, je confirme 0,85 gramme de vectan 1-1D. Pas de lunettes ce jour là. C'est sûr, c'est danger.Filmé de pres avec tel mobile.

[spectroman2700]

"dirty" sebou in action