Keyhole: One other affect of this path is that your calculations assume a straight line path from the south right? Yet the official flight path suggests from southwest as with the chopper THEREFORE the plane would, without any doubt, no argument, be in the original shot. The poor individuals who just won't accept this all for what it is are who i feel sorry for. Duped by their own government and just wont accept while the US marches toward a fascist state and all their freedoms removed. UK too.
Keyhole: I've been researching this whole thing for months and just yesterday came across the original ffotage of this video. One MAJOR point you've missed (and nca2008 has too) is the "flight path" given for UAL175. That's partly why I was so interested in this particualr footage originally. The "official" flight path states UAL175 approached WTC from almost exactly the same path AS THE HELICOPTER!! Check it out. PLUS, how many choppers in the sky that day? And none caught it until secs before?
What an absolute complete crackpot of a ridiculous unfounded theory.Its this type of disinformation that dumb down people eat up! This guy assumes the plane is coming from right to left in the frame when it in fact is coming from a diagonal angle from a North East angle if one is hypothetically looking due north. You can't use a frame measure like he does because the distance is not even accurate. This guy's intellect is that of a blundering idiot...go back to romper room!
ppor gh: he has insulted himself! Which "in" angle to you like the best? you have 4 to choose from. I like this one, low, shallow angle. Of course you like the diagonal. But there is the dive bomber shot and the boomarang from the right as it skips in. So many choices. Chill out and keep looking.
Holy Shit...you don't have the faintest clue as to what you are talking about...I suggest you go back to whatever gullible cult like world you belong to and ponder your illogical conclusions which support the idea that 911 was TV fakery! You are truly beyond ignorant!
gh: slinging shit is easy. YOU need to look at the evidence. 4 different angles shown. simply put, without calling you any names, like elastic sack of shit, you are wrong. you need correction.
I sling shit at you & I will heap buckets of it in your direction. You don't know what evidence is because you don't have the capacity to objectively analyze what has been presented to you in this ridiculous video. Over and above that I have members of my family who witnessed the second plane hit the WTC tower and they had friends who worked in the WTC tower who perished. Not to mention the people on that flight who tragically died. You meanwhile think its all fake because your a DUMB asshole!
Assumption #1: Plane hit at maximum speed; you just made that up, it hit while banking, usually with a loss in velocity
Assumption #2: You assume the plane is travelling perfectly perpendicular to the perspective.
Assumption #3: Your "error bars" are a joke, you made a ROUGH calculation then somehow conclude on that.
Inconsistency in theory: this doesn't change the fact that a hundred other camera's broadcast the second plane hitting LIVE all around the world. No time to doctor footage.
Reply to:9/11 mathematics: What you see is what you get! Its good to see someone has logic and reason in their evaluation of this video which is a complete insult to any person who actually believes the premise of this ridiculous video!
Even if the plane's not travelling perpendicular to the perspective, it's even MORE strange that it isn't seen, since it has to be coming from behind the towers if looked from this perspective. Genius.
Eh I don't know. I understand the point the guy is trying to make. He needs to tell us how fast the plane can actually go and if it's POSSIBLE for it to be traveling at a faster speed and then slowed down. They could have been going top speed TO the towers and then slowed down to aim/guide the plane into the towers. There are too many cameras for them to fake this.
HOWEVER, the UN "plane crash" is a different story...
i believe in the entire "9/11 inside job" thing, but this is pushing it. I mean c'mon, there is evidence to support your theory, but i seriously doubt that the government got ahold of every single person's camera and doctored the videos. There are home movies of the planes crashing into the towers.
yootubemat; not many videos are posted on the internet. I havent found them. The "media" video is all highly suspect. there is true video. but where? how do you know for certain. at least 4 different "in" shots. different looking planes. different colors.
i never said they didn't use the planes the gov said they did. I'm just saying, if there was a video of the towers simply exploding or of an actual missile, we would've seen it by now. And no, they weren't different colored planes. I suspect they used a government only plane (i forget the name) that could be outfitted to do what is shown above.
loved it dude, but i have seen another vid of the 2nd plane swooping down from up high so the plane might to be high in the skt not to be in the camera shot, but I still beleave that it was an inside job and the truth should be told
"bush was behind 911" Hey FOOL: CLINTON = BUSH = OBAMA = ILLUMINATI
Sheep, even if you are already in the slaughterhouse, it's never TOO LATE to understand that the TRUTH is NEVER TOO HORRIBLE.
"Comeback kid Clinton as the last president of the US" script.
Clinton endorses Obama = theater to help Obama's crowd accept to support Clinton, once Obama, after the coming "scandal", will be "forced" to exit the "race".
doesn't it make any of you wonder how the camera man knew to zoom in right at that moment?...what are the odds that he would zoom in right at that spot and right at that second?...how did the guy know there was even a plane there?...how did he know which tower the plane would hit or where it would hit?...if you answer these correctly, you'll understand how it was done...
He's applying 2D math to a 3D problem. In the 2D view we are considering, the size of the plane changes as it approaches the towers: the distance to the helicopter changes. Hence, he should have modified the size of the double arrows according to their distance to the camera.
Additionally, the plane did not have to follow the trajectory he proposes. Maybe it was flying slightly higher on the zoomed out shot; perhaps behind the helicopter sign on the right.
seriously man this is bullshit, toochthemooch is right , the plane was very muh sideways when it hit, ALSO THEN Explain how every single video that was sent in by people , thousands of videos of the second plane, was then edited.
THE ONLY THING IMPOSSIBLE IS YOUR LOGIC,
STOP BEING IN DENIAL POEPL , 9/11 ISNT A CONSPIRACY BY OUR GOV'T , I HATE OUR GOV'T RIGHT NOW AND I CAN STILL SEE COMMON SENSE.
my brother is a computer engineer who deals with highly advance video and he said it was all legit
so, please tell, where do you see these "THOUSANDS OF VIDEOS"? I cant find them. not on youtube. Not the internet. What i have found isnt very amusing. so many fakes its difficult to see the real one. Which "in" shot do you like the best? the long shallow one here? the boomarang from the right? the divebomber? or another?? which plane do you like the best. I dont have a favorite yet. Many people have posted better fakes of the Michael Hezarkhani fake. If your brother likes Mikey's video, run...
their are over a million people in new york city , THOUSANDS were recording through some sort of device when the second plane hit, there all over the place.
And basically your logic is that the gov't supposedly made up these THOUSANDS of videos and fixed them all to fit a story, YOU IDIOTS ARE THE MOST PARANOID PEOPLE IN THE WORLD, THIS HAS PAST FINDING OUT THE TRUTH, THIS HAS BECOME PURE INSANITY, PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!
George Bush is a stupid, incompetent, pathetic leader
So, please, tell where to find the 1000's of videos. You say they exist. i said nothing about fixed videos. (the media did present false video) I say the 1000's dont exist. Not much does. i will be glad to look at video of the WTC impact.Hope you dont think Michael Hezarkhani video is real.. I have a playlist of "witnesses" and as many as i have, i dont have much. Oh, and which "in" shot do you like the best. of the 4.
thousands?...do we have thousands of videos showing the 2nd plane?...no, we only have a few...the "2nd plane" wasn't real...this is what the video is trying to tell you...did you even listen?
you also consider assume that it was flying straight... good job... watch any other film and tell me if it was flying straight when it hit the towers... solid job here
you want to say that the plane was not really there? i could understand you if you believed that the first impact was mysterious, but the second impact was filmed by many people. people still don't know if the first impact was caused by a plane or by a missile. most of the witnisses say that it was no american airline... but the second impact must have been a plane, i guess remote controlled with no passengers!
ahaha!@ are you kidding me? there's no math here! it's much more complicated than that. the dynamics of flight is much more complex. try taking a dynamics course and vector calculus/multivariable calculus.
so what are you trying to say or prove in this video? it is obviously a plane, you even call it a plane. i just don't get your thesis statement. you are trying to convince that the plane 'came out of nowhere'...? what does that prove? how does that help your case? your logic is appalling.
His point is that in that footage you cannot see the plane on its course to hit the tower from the long shot, you only see the plane strike the tower during the close-up. At the rate which the plane is moving, you would see it in the frame of the long-shot, but it doesn't. It simply magically appears during the close-up. I think the video poster is suggesting that the plane is digitally constructed, suggesting that not an actual plane hit the tower, but something else.
You can see the plane at 1:57. If you look closely a small black dot appears.
And another thing. These weren't professional pilots. And have you ever heard of a plane not going the same speed the entire time? What if it sped up before it hit the tower? People said that at the speed the plane was going when it hit the towers the plane could have exploded in mid air. Duh.
Como si estuvieran filmando en angulo recto... eso solo funcionaria si estuviera filmando al avion en angulo recto... pero a la distancia a la que estan no se puede decir a que angulo se filmo el avion de la camara por lo tanto es imposible saver donde estava el avion antes del choque!!! o quiza no sea imposible pero tendria que sacarse matematicamente el angulo para poder decir exactamente donde estava el avion antes del choque!!! gran error esta teoria!!!
You are wrong on so many counts. For a start, your physics are terrible, your basing movement through space on how fast the object moves across a changing field of vision. i.e. when zoomed in, the place is covering a different distance than when zoomed out. the further you are from an object the slower it appears to you think of an airplan up in the sky then one 10 feet from you, same speed...look way different.
Secondly your making assumptions that the plane was flying in a dead straight line at a perfectly constant speed, the plane was circling, at no point was there a single straight path and certainly not in this time frame.
no no no, because he counted the 19 times in the zoomed video, then zoomed out to show the respective spot in the picture.
The 19 times were computed from the zoomed version as well as the speed.
So, when he zoomed out the assumption is correct. In other words, he could have been doing everything on the zoomed version, and the conclusion is the same.
There was no "computing" done, he made an assumption that the plane will cover the same distance in space during the time it takes a camera to render 19 frames. This is simply not true, things are observed at different speeds from different distances and angles, none of these point where taken into consideration.
why is it so hard for you dumbfucks to believe that this was a terrosit attack? if they wanted to do something to make us go to war, why didnt they just plant explosives on something smaller? it would kill hundreds less, but still give us reason to go to war, so why crash 2 ful boeing 737s into 2 giant towers with thousands of people in them? They wouldnt you dumbfuck
planes go anywhere for 500-1000 miles per hour. it could have easily hit the tower from out of the frame afer he zoomed it. I hate conspirators sooooooooooo much
So...what is this video trying to prove? That the planes suddenly appeared out of thin air like som UFO or something? And has anyone ever considered the fact that maybe the plane was leveling out? that it had dropped to rapid descent and hadn't been going in a constant dirrection?
Oh well, every bit of that stupid conspiracy movie has been prooven wrong already. They even had to edit it into a version 2, cutting out the old stuff, putting new crap in.
No idea about architecture, mathematics, constructions etc etc.
listen... im a structural engineer... i have analyzed the falling of the buildings over and over. the problem with these conspiracy theorists is that they do not have proper education in the departments of science and mathematics. this person negates the fact that the place accelerated INTO the building. velocity is measured meters per second while acceleration is measured meters per second per second. therefore, his idea of multiplying the distance 19 times is proved false.
The main problem with this analysis is that that plane did not follow a straight path into the building, it was turning! You see both wings of the aircraft, it was not flying level and straight. Since your main assumption is wrong, your conclusions are also totally wrong. I know you want to desperatly believe it was a conspiracy, try again!
No one can dispute this. It is hard to see what type of plane it is from any footage I have seen. It is possible for secret govt to do this, I will prey that whoever did it gets theirs. Where is Osama? Maybe he is computer generated too.
loly uo're stupid.. it was moving fast an u wern;t even foucsed out and it comes when u zoom u dumb ass.. It goes 800-1000miles per hour.. what do you think?
So, the videos are fake? right...and what about all the people that saw it happening in front of them? Was it also a fake sight that one they were seeing with their own eyes?
And now, answer this one: are you fucking retarded?
This is just crap. A combination of extreme distance and video compression means you can't see the plane because it's too small in the frame. Why are you doing this? What are you trying to say? There was no plane? Nothing went in to the WTC?
I feel as though if they new that the planes had been hijacked then they should have shot the planes down themselves, (I don't mean to offend) It's just shooting the planes down would have saved so many lives, but i don't know if they knew there full intentions at the time, it's all rather confusing.
i'm am extremely convinced 9/11 could have been avoided and that the government had knowledge of the attacks prior to them happening,
however. two planes were hijacked and flown into the twin towers, simple as that. this video is smart and interesting but could be explained with simple trig calculations.
the attack we need to focus on is the "plane" that hit the pentagon
Americans didn't do this to themselves. The elites did it to the Americans. Thank the government for the Patriot Act and Martial Law. I'm sure you'll love those Real ID Cards.
There is no reason for a 911 'truth' movement anymore. If you don't know the answer then you're either asking a stupid question or you've not bothered to listen to the answer.
PrisonPlanet and InfoWars -- the latest in dual airbags.
Hmm.. Out for attention much? I know you love the hate comments, I am sure of this. Say this is fake to all of the lost, What relocation's for thousand of lives around the States>>> Yeah a Conspiracy!!! LOTTO, "For all on board, we choose to fake the planes blowing up in various places around the U.S., sorry that you cannot contact anyone ever again in your life, your parents, spouses, children, haha, NO.. no one, so sit back as we fake this... Yey!"
How completely do they fool you? Just Google any of these and Matt Marriott
Lottery
ISS
BECAUSE the TRUTH is NEVER TOO HORRIBLE, even if YOU, the sheep, realize it only INSIDE the slaughterhouse.
9/11 FULL STORY was exposed worldwide first long ago.
From TV Fakery (no planes) to mini H bombs upwards directed, how Barbara Olson was murdered immediately after Massood, how Lisa Beamer was fooled, why the Pentagon and WTC7 were in the script, etc.
The reasoning on this is all wrong. Whoever made this video forgot to alter the speed of this "arrow" as he reverses the direction of the playback. Since the size of the frame is constantly changing as a result, the apparent speed of moving objects within that frame would change accordingly. Myth: BUSTED
I believe that the CTs manipulated the videos of the 9/11 attacks and post them as real. The planes are there, but the conspiracy jerk offs edited them out........
The plane could have turned from out of the smoke or clouds. The plane could have dropped in altitude as well. The planes tilted angle suggests to me that it just turned.
How completely do they fool you? Just Google any of these and Matt Marriott
Lottery
ISS
BECAUSE the TRUTH is NEVER TOO HORRIBLE, even if YOU, the sheep, realize it only INSIDE the slaughterhouse.
9/11 FULL STORY was exposed worldwide first long ago.
From TV Fakery (no planes) to mini H bombs upwards directed, how Barbara Olson was murdered immediately after Massood, how Lisa Beamer was fooled, why the Pentagon and WTC7 were in the script, etc.
Here is a problem: He assumes a speed that is never directly addressed. That is, what is the speed for that distance. It is a few miles. and this takes only a few seconds. The estimated hit speed is some 525mph +/-. But if we take the far right of screen to entry as being some 5 miles then the speed is approx 950mph +/-, or approx. one mile every 5 seconds.
So, 6 billion people, including millions of direct eyewitnesses, were *all* fooled into thinking that planes hit the towers? I wish I had that sort of power of persuasion.
Exactly.. Anyone trying to get to the bottom of this has a right to question and examine.
Considering how many people think there is far more to all this than we have been told I for one am glad people out there are putting their minds to work on this whole bullshit situation and trying to gain some clarity, after all it'll be a frosty cold day in hell before any "official channels" actually give us raw info about anything to enable us to think for ourselves..
Do you reallize that this man has just proven those planes never hit the towers? Incredible!Those towers are actually still there and we just cant see them
He just tried to add some scientific analysis in order to work things out in his mind, and then posted the results, its called critical thinking, maybe you should try a little of it every once in a while MR SERPENT..
your theory works only if the plane was traveling at the same speed, im sure the terrorists pushed the throttle down 100%.
why cant you guys just face the fact that terrorists hijacked planes and crashed them, but you gotta go make all these consperacy theories to match your imagination, and you try to get others to follow it so you can feel better about yourself
your belief is more of a conspiracy then the government actually being behind it
it's weird that the pentagon is one of the most secured buildings in the world and has hundreds of cameras around it but none of them was released?
only one video was released several hundred feet back from a hotel and you see no airplane flying into it but clearly just an explosion and once that video was released which was just once, the government got a hold of it and filed law suits? law suits for what?
you know what brother, "Al quada" has long since taken responsability for the attacks, but the way I see it, there is just an inherant greed and evil in many humans, this power hungry dictator, that power hungry dictator,so much of mankind is just a bunch of children fighting on the playground in grownup bodies, and its always been that way.
the plane came in from a fairly steep angle. in other videos you can very clearly see the plane banking at the last minute. and it has been shown that the planes were both travelling faster before impact than they were when first spotted. the planes would have been speeding up from the second the towel head saw that he was on the right flightpath, and would hit the target. i would also like to hear from the new yorkers who were there at the time, to see if they saw any planes. im sure they did
What you don't seem to consider: the unexperienced terrorist flying the plane probably sped up briefly before the impact, once they had visual with the tower and were sure they'd hit it.
Otherwise, it would have been unlikely for an undtrained pilot to hit the tower from an approach that was already at top speed.
What else are you suggesting? The plane was composed into the live (!) footage? No chance in that quality. That is hours of work on today's state of the art compositing systems.
If you walk through a doorway with your arms outstretched, you discover a practical problem. If a plane flies into a skyscraper at an angle of 45 degees, each flimsy wing would encounter the resistance of 4 or 5 reinforced concrete floors. The wings should have ripped from the fuselage and plummetted to the ground, but they melt into the building. It can't be explained.
If 911 was an "inside job" perpetrated by the U.S. government, what would it serve to destroy both towers? Wouldnt one suffice? Or perhaps a less important building?
my thinking is this: If hijackers had the ability to get 4 planes so easily, why wouldn't they have done 1 in NY, 1 Miami, 1 Seattle, 1 LA? If you want chaos, and these people obviously (not) had the ability, why choose 2 economic bldg and NOT Wall Street-street level? Bomb Studio city? etc.? Why choose the most heavily defended bldg, Pentagon? Would you actually believe, if you were a terrorist, that you could actually even come close the the Pent? Seriously.
There's things in life that are better left unspoken.
Take this for example: the leases were purchased on the WTC buildings for $15 million dollars, shortly after their demise the owner of the leases stood to obtain a $7 billion dollar insurance policy.
There were actually 2 different claims on the buildings, one for each building.
Now factor this in: the families of the people that died in the WTC buildings had a hard time getting their companies to pay their policies. Clauses were added
Justify a War with Afganistan, Iraq, Iran and the American people may be....
Have you realize this. For every single speech about security or war they mention 911. "HO yes we have to go into iraq they have WMD and we don't want another 911 to happend"
what would it serve to destroy both towers? well they were aiming for what was to come of it.
if you attack one of the biggest cities in America and take down two big ass important buildings, this would piss americans off, am i right?
i dont know about you but when i found out about 911 i was angry i wanted to get back at them, them meaning the people the governement was quick to blame.
which is good if your G.W bush and been planning to invade iraq since 2000
actually, the 9/11 attack was not needed to go into iraq. saddam was already dicking the inspectors around, and according to the sanctions laid down in 91, if he didnt let the inspectors do their job we were going back to finish the job. he agreed to those terms because we were all set to remove him from power back then. and it was all speculation about who was responsible until bin laden admitted it. i think if it was an inside job he would be quick to deny it so as to start more unrest
I believe 9/11 took place so that they can delcare war on "terror" a war that never ends and gives them an excuse to invade any part of the world they want, take away as many freedoms as they want all in the name of national security and the war on "terror". Its perfect...a war that goes on forever and can never be won because they can now create boogie men out of thin air and instill fear into the people and we will beg them to keep us safe and agree to anything they want. We are sheep.
nad you dont think its possible thatit could have been a terrorist attack?
it has been scientifically proven many times, you know
bin laden has admitted it, i would think he would be the first to say it was an inside job, dont you?
and if the plane wasnt there, as this vid suggests that means the whole city of new york is lying and therefore must be in on it, which is just impossible
gee, thats about the greatest truther argument about it.
well done, you really proved it for me there. im convinced.
heh, and you say I am stupid? at least tell me how the whole city of new york couldnt be in on it if they said there were planes when in fact there werent?
the whole population of the city saw the planes. if there were no planes, all these people must be lying. understand? am i going slow enough for you?
please tell me how this is stupid, but accusing an entire city of lying isnt
How completely do they fool you? Just Google any of these and Matt Marriott
Lottery
ISS
BECAUSE the TRUTH is NEVER TOO HORRIBLE, even if YOU, the sheep, realize it only INSIDE the slaughterhouse.
9/11 FULL STORY was exposed worldwide first long ago.
From TV Fakery (no planes) to mini H bombs upwards directed, how Barbara Olson was murdered immediately after Massood, how Lisa Beamer was fooled, why the Pentagon and WTC7 were in the script, etc.
Whether intentional or not, this video is total disinformation. This person shows NO KNOWLEDGE of either the way telephoto zoom lenses distort perspectives, what is or isn't recorded from a distance, not to mention video compression. In brief, the plane could have been there and not recorded as it would have been a very small 'speck'. However, we can't tell one way or the other from highly compressed video such as this where a small detail could easily be compressed out.
that plane could have been not a commercial plane and could have been traveling at a higher rate of speed to make the invisible appeareance to where the camer doesnt pick it up frame by frame
While I agree that the argument in this video is flawed (eg, what if the plane wasn't flying in a straight line), I feel CypressVillain128's comments add nothing to the debate. What sort of spelling is that? Please only comment if you can add something!
oh and what about speed ratios? you didn't factor in speed range mapping it out by frames... yeah... you need more to your mathematics. look say what you want. Conspiracy or No Conspiracy, you people have forgotten the most important thing... Innocent people were slain that day of all races. Get over yourselves, Remember that day and continue to live your lives and keep 9/11 in your head and hearts.
The plane wasn't doing a straight line, it did a nosedive, air traffic controller for flight 175 calls it a powerdive, from 10.000 feet above, so you could not see it before. Only very shortly before hitting the towers it went on that straight line towards the towers. That is in fact extremely difficult even for a very experienced pilot, so
I do believe 9/11 was an inside job.
Too many unanswered questions...see film "Loose Change" on youtube
How completely do they fool you? Just Google any of these and Matt Marriott
Lottery
ISS
BECAUSE the TRUTH is NEVER TOO HORRIBLE, even if YOU, the sheep, realize it only INSIDE the slaughterhouse.
9/11 FULL STORY was exposed worldwide first long ago.
From TV Fakery (no planes) to mini H bombs upwards directed, how Barbara Olson was murdered immediately after Massood, how Lisa Beamer was fooled, why the Pentagon and WTC7 were in the script, etc.
9/11 motives explained in this illuminating, well researched, David Ecke talk. It's easy to watch and most he says can be found. We all need to see this. Especially after about the 1 hour mark (the 911 stuff). Part 3 is very awesome too. A wake up call for us all and worth the time to learn.(Take out the spaces after the 2 dotz) video. google. com/videoplay?docid=8975490703215161452 Also, Search this: US Troops in Iraq talk about Halliburton & KBR
There are quite some angry people commenting on this video :(
PowerAndPerception 3 years ago
Crazy idea. Maybe the hijackers increased thrust to obtain higher velocity in order to cause maxiumum damage upon impact?
TheRealestRealist 3 years ago
or maybe the footage was doctored pror to airing
eyepatchinc 3 years ago
Keyhole: One other affect of this path is that your calculations assume a straight line path from the south right? Yet the official flight path suggests from southwest as with the chopper THEREFORE the plane would, without any doubt, no argument, be in the original shot. The poor individuals who just won't accept this all for what it is are who i feel sorry for. Duped by their own government and just wont accept while the US marches toward a fascist state and all their freedoms removed. UK too.
Mark6463 3 years ago
Keyhole: I've been researching this whole thing for months and just yesterday came across the original ffotage of this video. One MAJOR point you've missed (and nca2008 has too) is the "flight path" given for UAL175. That's partly why I was so interested in this particualr footage originally. The "official" flight path states UAL175 approached WTC from almost exactly the same path AS THE HELICOPTER!! Check it out. PLUS, how many choppers in the sky that day? And none caught it until secs before?
Mark6463 3 years ago
the plain didn't come straight you fool! thatwhy its speed is variable!
nca20082008 3 years ago
"the plain didn't come straight you fool! thatwhy its speed is variable!"
Please elaborate, without insults if possible :)
PowerAndPerception 3 years ago
This is Ace Bakers research. If you want to see his original presentation go here:
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It does not work out well for poor old Ace.
wheelst 3 years ago
dam cut the nerdy comments...
CrunkUnit 3 years ago
What an absolute complete crackpot of a ridiculous unfounded theory.Its this type of disinformation that dumb down people eat up! This guy assumes the plane is coming from right to left in the frame when it in fact is coming from a diagonal angle from a North East angle if one is hypothetically looking due north. You can't use a frame measure like he does because the distance is not even accurate. This guy's intellect is that of a blundering idiot...go back to romper room!
gh201059 3 years ago
ppor gh: he has insulted himself! Which "in" angle to you like the best? you have 4 to choose from. I like this one, low, shallow angle. Of course you like the diagonal. But there is the dive bomber shot and the boomarang from the right as it skips in. So many choices. Chill out and keep looking.
hypnotstcollector 3 years ago
Holy Shit...you don't have the faintest clue as to what you are talking about...I suggest you go back to whatever gullible cult like world you belong to and ponder your illogical conclusions which support the idea that 911 was TV fakery! You are truly beyond ignorant!
gh201059 3 years ago
gh: slinging shit is easy. YOU need to look at the evidence. 4 different angles shown. simply put, without calling you any names, like elastic sack of shit, you are wrong. you need correction.
hypnotstcollector 3 years ago
I sling shit at you & I will heap buckets of it in your direction. You don't know what evidence is because you don't have the capacity to objectively analyze what has been presented to you in this ridiculous video. Over and above that I have members of my family who witnessed the second plane hit the WTC tower and they had friends who worked in the WTC tower who perished. Not to mention the people on that flight who tragically died. You meanwhile think its all fake because your a DUMB asshole!
gh201059 3 years ago
Assumption #1: Plane hit at maximum speed; you just made that up, it hit while banking, usually with a loss in velocity
Assumption #2: You assume the plane is travelling perfectly perpendicular to the perspective.
Assumption #3: Your "error bars" are a joke, you made a ROUGH calculation then somehow conclude on that.
Inconsistency in theory: this doesn't change the fact that a hundred other camera's broadcast the second plane hitting LIVE all around the world. No time to doctor footage.
Treblaine 3 years ago
Reply to:9/11 mathematics: What you see is what you get! Its good to see someone has logic and reason in their evaluation of this video which is a complete insult to any person who actually believes the premise of this ridiculous video!
gh201059 3 years ago
treblaine; you are wrong. you have at least 4 different "in" shots. The planes dont match.
hypnotstcollector 3 years ago
Even if the plane's not travelling perpendicular to the perspective, it's even MORE strange that it isn't seen, since it has to be coming from behind the towers if looked from this perspective. Genius.
SmokiSounds 3 years ago
Eh I don't know. I understand the point the guy is trying to make. He needs to tell us how fast the plane can actually go and if it's POSSIBLE for it to be traveling at a faster speed and then slowed down. They could have been going top speed TO the towers and then slowed down to aim/guide the plane into the towers. There are too many cameras for them to fake this.
HOWEVER, the UN "plane crash" is a different story...
Bastards. All of them. Whoever's involved.
Zooko23NY 3 years ago
great video, great logic.
masons20 3 years ago
i believe in the entire "9/11 inside job" thing, but this is pushing it. I mean c'mon, there is evidence to support your theory, but i seriously doubt that the government got ahold of every single person's camera and doctored the videos. There are home movies of the planes crashing into the towers.
yootubematt 3 years ago 2
yootubemat; not many videos are posted on the internet. I havent found them. The "media" video is all highly suspect. there is true video. but where? how do you know for certain. at least 4 different "in" shots. different looking planes. different colors.
hypnotstcollector 3 years ago
i never said they didn't use the planes the gov said they did. I'm just saying, if there was a video of the towers simply exploding or of an actual missile, we would've seen it by now. And no, they weren't different colored planes. I suspect they used a government only plane (i forget the name) that could be outfitted to do what is shown above.
yootubematt 3 years ago
5 stars!
great voice btw
2JOHNNYT 3 years ago
loved it dude, but i have seen another vid of the 2nd plane swooping down from up high so the plane might to be high in the skt not to be in the camera shot, but I still beleave that it was an inside job and the truth should be told
TheNewProphetisHere 3 years ago
One of the great truth classics.Splendid.
machfron 3 years ago
"bush was behind 911" Hey FOOL: CLINTON = BUSH = OBAMA = ILLUMINATI
Sheep, even if you are already in the slaughterhouse, it's never TOO LATE to understand that the TRUTH is NEVER TOO HORRIBLE.
"Comeback kid Clinton as the last president of the US" script.
Clinton endorses Obama = theater to help Obama's crowd accept to support Clinton, once Obama, after the coming "scandal", will be "forced" to exit the "race".
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Truth666 3 years ago
at 2.00 u can see the plane to the right of the red circle, just before it changes angle, look at it sometimes, u will see the black spot.
lillkurtronnieboy 3 years ago
Im confused someone explain to me what is that "object" "plane" above the tower at 19 seconds and then another plane on the bottom left at 36 sec
wefty357 3 years ago
At 2.00 min. you can see the plane next to the red circle, right before he change the camera angle...
Nc9520 3 years ago
I believe the plane turns to get into that position .
isilder 3 years ago
doesn't it make any of you wonder how the camera man knew to zoom in right at that moment?...what are the odds that he would zoom in right at that spot and right at that second?...how did the guy know there was even a plane there?...how did he know which tower the plane would hit or where it would hit?...if you answer these correctly, you'll understand how it was done...
hahawhat98 3 years ago
you fucking retard quit converting the other retards into believing this shit. god damn this conspiracy and go fuck yourself
ShockerFan123 3 years ago
He's applying 2D math to a 3D problem. In the 2D view we are considering, the size of the plane changes as it approaches the towers: the distance to the helicopter changes. Hence, he should have modified the size of the double arrows according to their distance to the camera.
Additionally, the plane did not have to follow the trajectory he proposes. Maybe it was flying slightly higher on the zoomed out shot; perhaps behind the helicopter sign on the right.
Nice try but bad application of math.
m910292 3 years ago 4
Nice man , i really like what you have done . Very interesting
muppetchile 3 years ago
seriously man this is bullshit, toochthemooch is right , the plane was very muh sideways when it hit, ALSO THEN Explain how every single video that was sent in by people , thousands of videos of the second plane, was then edited.
THE ONLY THING IMPOSSIBLE IS YOUR LOGIC,
STOP BEING IN DENIAL POEPL , 9/11 ISNT A CONSPIRACY BY OUR GOV'T , I HATE OUR GOV'T RIGHT NOW AND I CAN STILL SEE COMMON SENSE.
my brother is a computer engineer who deals with highly advance video and he said it was all legit
godlyguitarist43 3 years ago
so, please tell, where do you see these "THOUSANDS OF VIDEOS"? I cant find them. not on youtube. Not the internet. What i have found isnt very amusing. so many fakes its difficult to see the real one. Which "in" shot do you like the best? the long shallow one here? the boomarang from the right? the divebomber? or another?? which plane do you like the best. I dont have a favorite yet. Many people have posted better fakes of the Michael Hezarkhani fake. If your brother likes Mikey's video, run...
hypnotstcollector 3 years ago
their are over a million people in new york city , THOUSANDS were recording through some sort of device when the second plane hit, there all over the place.
And basically your logic is that the gov't supposedly made up these THOUSANDS of videos and fixed them all to fit a story, YOU IDIOTS ARE THE MOST PARANOID PEOPLE IN THE WORLD, THIS HAS PAST FINDING OUT THE TRUTH, THIS HAS BECOME PURE INSANITY, PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!
George Bush is a stupid, incompetent, pathetic leader
but not a terrorist.
godlyguitarist43 3 years ago
So, please, tell where to find the 1000's of videos. You say they exist. i said nothing about fixed videos. (the media did present false video) I say the 1000's dont exist. Not much does. i will be glad to look at video of the WTC impact.Hope you dont think Michael Hezarkhani video is real.. I have a playlist of "witnesses" and as many as i have, i dont have much. Oh, and which "in" shot do you like the best. of the 4.
hypnotstcollector 3 years ago
Government didn't made up these videos. Government just ordered the aircraft to crash in those towers. Videos are authentic.
jernasmarlboro 3 years ago
thousands?...do we have thousands of videos showing the 2nd plane?...no, we only have a few...the "2nd plane" wasn't real...this is what the video is trying to tell you...did you even listen?
hahawhat98 3 years ago
Really strange things happen is US...
PortugalGP 3 years ago
this is a valid argument i have to admit
furiousduane 3 years ago
what a bullshit
ralfrecords 3 years ago
you also consider assume that it was flying straight... good job... watch any other film and tell me if it was flying straight when it hit the towers... solid job here
toochthemooch 3 years ago
shut ure british ass up
blambo45 3 years ago
you want to say that the plane was not really there? i could understand you if you believed that the first impact was mysterious, but the second impact was filmed by many people. people still don't know if the first impact was caused by a plane or by a missile. most of the witnisses say that it was no american airline... but the second impact must have been a plane, i guess remote controlled with no passengers!
deecee87 3 years ago
your retarded (video poster)
biggestboyondablock 3 years ago
ahaha!@ are you kidding me? there's no math here! it's much more complicated than that. the dynamics of flight is much more complex. try taking a dynamics course and vector calculus/multivariable calculus.
shaggydaplaya 3 years ago
so what are you trying to say or prove in this video? it is obviously a plane, you even call it a plane. i just don't get your thesis statement. you are trying to convince that the plane 'came out of nowhere'...? what does that prove? how does that help your case? your logic is appalling.
sillydillydokieo 3 years ago
His point is that in that footage you cannot see the plane on its course to hit the tower from the long shot, you only see the plane strike the tower during the close-up. At the rate which the plane is moving, you would see it in the frame of the long-shot, but it doesn't. It simply magically appears during the close-up. I think the video poster is suggesting that the plane is digitally constructed, suggesting that not an actual plane hit the tower, but something else.
Hopefully that is logical
MilesHackett 3 years ago 3
he is saying that the plane isn't really there - it was digitally added to the footage and something else hit the building
specialagent115 3 years ago
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Truth666 3 years ago
yea i agree. this doesn't prove anything. planes do change speed. nice try though :)
snakeman415 3 years ago
You can see the plane at 1:57. If you look closely a small black dot appears.
And another thing. These weren't professional pilots. And have you ever heard of a plane not going the same speed the entire time? What if it sped up before it hit the tower? People said that at the speed the plane was going when it hit the towers the plane could have exploded in mid air. Duh.
supercell900 3 years ago
Como si estuvieran filmando en angulo recto... eso solo funcionaria si estuviera filmando al avion en angulo recto... pero a la distancia a la que estan no se puede decir a que angulo se filmo el avion de la camara por lo tanto es imposible saver donde estava el avion antes del choque!!! o quiza no sea imposible pero tendria que sacarse matematicamente el angulo para poder decir exactamente donde estava el avion antes del choque!!! gran error esta teoria!!!
chocovito 3 years ago
At 1 min 57 seconds you see the plane in frame just to the right of the circle and just after the the person speaking says "Its not" ??
cheshiredancer 3 years ago
You are wrong on so many counts. For a start, your physics are terrible, your basing movement through space on how fast the object moves across a changing field of vision. i.e. when zoomed in, the place is covering a different distance than when zoomed out. the further you are from an object the slower it appears to you think of an airplan up in the sky then one 10 feet from you, same speed...look way different.
k1ngross 3 years ago
Secondly your making assumptions that the plane was flying in a dead straight line at a perfectly constant speed, the plane was circling, at no point was there a single straight path and certainly not in this time frame.
k1ngross 3 years ago
I agree with u in this point.
agfigueroaa 3 years ago
no no no, because he counted the 19 times in the zoomed video, then zoomed out to show the respective spot in the picture.
The 19 times were computed from the zoomed version as well as the speed.
So, when he zoomed out the assumption is correct. In other words, he could have been doing everything on the zoomed version, and the conclusion is the same.
agfigueroaa 3 years ago
There was no "computing" done, he made an assumption that the plane will cover the same distance in space during the time it takes a camera to render 19 frames. This is simply not true, things are observed at different speeds from different distances and angles, none of these point where taken into consideration.
k1ngross 3 years ago 2
seriously he did kindergarten math...
poplug 3 years ago
heyy nice vidd wer did u get the music from
skateboarda38 3 years ago
The plane probably changed speed and it turned before heading toward the towers. Widely known.
cptnunderwhere 3 years ago
This was all terroist, or was it? hmmmm maybe it was something, not human at all!
billgax55 3 years ago
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Truth666 3 years ago
why is it so hard for you dumbfucks to believe that this was a terrosit attack? if they wanted to do something to make us go to war, why didnt they just plant explosives on something smaller? it would kill hundreds less, but still give us reason to go to war, so why crash 2 ful boeing 737s into 2 giant towers with thousands of people in them? They wouldnt you dumbfuck
luigio94 3 years ago
amen
jhonka6 3 years ago
woww so clever and your voice is amazing love it x
mydisposableheart 3 years ago
planes go anywhere for 500-1000 miles per hour. it could have easily hit the tower from out of the frame afer he zoomed it. I hate conspirators sooooooooooo much
godzillab10 3 years ago
So...what is this video trying to prove? That the planes suddenly appeared out of thin air like som UFO or something? And has anyone ever considered the fact that maybe the plane was leveling out? that it had dropped to rapid descent and hadn't been going in a constant dirrection?
blakshadow5 3 years ago
Oh well, every bit of that stupid conspiracy movie has been prooven wrong already. They even had to edit it into a version 2, cutting out the old stuff, putting new crap in.
No idea about architecture, mathematics, constructions etc etc.
tom80ul 3 years ago
listen... im a structural engineer... i have analyzed the falling of the buildings over and over. the problem with these conspiracy theorists is that they do not have proper education in the departments of science and mathematics. this person negates the fact that the place accelerated INTO the building. velocity is measured meters per second while acceleration is measured meters per second per second. therefore, his idea of multiplying the distance 19 times is proved false.
ESTONES6 3 years ago
wow mind bogling!
overdum 3 years ago
The main problem with this analysis is that that plane did not follow a straight path into the building, it was turning! You see both wings of the aircraft, it was not flying level and straight. Since your main assumption is wrong, your conclusions are also totally wrong. I know you want to desperatly believe it was a conspiracy, try again!
mbayewitch 3 years ago
Yet again you conspiracy theorists are fucking retarded. THE PLANE WAS NOT TRAVELLING AT A UNIFORM RATE WHICH MEANS ALL YOUR MATH IS USELESS!
HKUARCHANGEL 3 years ago
Idiot.Imbecile shills like you need to be flogged,flayed,disembowelled,castrated and then drawn and quartered.
machfron 3 years ago
No one can dispute this. It is hard to see what type of plane it is from any footage I have seen. It is possible for secret govt to do this, I will prey that whoever did it gets theirs. Where is Osama? Maybe he is computer generated too.
falsemetal75 3 years ago 2
loly uo're stupid.. it was moving fast an u wern;t even foucsed out and it comes when u zoom u dumb ass.. It goes 800-1000miles per hour.. what do you think?
alex101369 3 years ago
I think you are a braindead lump of shit.
machfron 3 years ago 2
the videos are a great fake... if american people would wake up a day... incredible...
kajantek10 3 years ago
why its fake . i dont believe this ... its real
pikvrouw 3 years ago
So, the videos are fake? right...and what about all the people that saw it happening in front of them? Was it also a fake sight that one they were seeing with their own eyes?
And now, answer this one: are you fucking retarded?
No prizes if you know the answer!
How stupid people can be, seriously!
JoseMad1981 3 years ago
Many did see "SOMETHING" all right.
Likely either the DECOY planes or Jassm Cruise missiles, which have a plane profile.
Wake up.
teshnic 3 years ago
At 0:36, on left bottom, just above the words "Clear and cool" on blue ribbon, appear a plane flying quite fast from left to right.
CesarPaleAss 3 years ago
2 tings wrong the bank in the wings and you didnt kno the speed the whole time
MNGslmch80 3 years ago
and look at the angle of the wings its obviously banking to the right, rendering all your calculations incorrect
dannymac1984 3 years ago
wow so the plane just appeared from nowhere! so it must of been aliens?!?
or was it just behind the smoke
dannymac1984 3 years ago
So where did the plane came from then.
Wasnt there any witnesses that could confirm this or not?
Tbonyandsteak 3 years ago
Did not get the Pentagon chapter in the 911 script? That's why:
Obama's main role is to confirm that voting machines count Clinton's 5 pct votes correctly.
Ron Paul's main role is to confirm that voting machines count McCain 1 pct votes correctly.
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Truth666 3 years ago
This is just crap. A combination of extreme distance and video compression means you can't see the plane because it's too small in the frame. Why are you doing this? What are you trying to say? There was no plane? Nothing went in to the WTC?
Fidelio76 3 years ago
I feel as though if they new that the planes had been hijacked then they should have shot the planes down themselves, (I don't mean to offend) It's just shooting the planes down would have saved so many lives, but i don't know if they knew there full intentions at the time, it's all rather confusing.
globalcarp 3 years ago
Brilliant.One of the greatest truth documentaries.
machfron 3 years ago
i'm am extremely convinced 9/11 could have been avoided and that the government had knowledge of the attacks prior to them happening,
however. two planes were hijacked and flown into the twin towers, simple as that. this video is smart and interesting but could be explained with simple trig calculations.
the attack we need to focus on is the "plane" that hit the pentagon
jeff102690 3 years ago
9/11 waz a inside job. fuk da gvt
hotboy123456789 3 years ago
if the Americans did this to themselves, the whole world is going to Hell!
octiuta 3 years ago
Americans didn't do this to themselves. The elites did it to the Americans. Thank the government for the Patriot Act and Martial Law. I'm sure you'll love those Real ID Cards.
jstric385 3 years ago
There is no reason for a 911 'truth' movement anymore. If you don't know the answer then you're either asking a stupid question or you've not bothered to listen to the answer.
PrisonPlanet and InfoWars -- the latest in dual airbags.
RottweillerRescue44 3 years ago
Dont forget that the second plane was banking steepley to the right when it hit the second tower??????
Or as the plane was too small to be seen in the frame it could of blended in to the clouds making it look loke there was nothing there??????
Redflyier.
redflyier1993 3 years ago
very smart :]
BryceMassimo 3 years ago
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kistianna 3 years ago
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Truth666 3 years ago
I stop reading at Mini-H bombs.
VictusUnus 3 years ago
well this must b dumb as he forgot that the plane can accellorate lol
tiger4boy 3 years ago 4
The reasoning on this is all wrong. Whoever made this video forgot to alter the speed of this "arrow" as he reverses the direction of the playback. Since the size of the frame is constantly changing as a result, the apparent speed of moving objects within that frame would change accordingly. Myth: BUSTED
sketin 3 years ago 5
Dude... I do believe in these theories, but your video seems to be a joke... Don't you think that the plane was simply too small to be captured?
MastaDJMax 3 years ago
Who cares?
briantheconqueror 3 years ago
I believe that the CTs manipulated the videos of the 9/11 attacks and post them as real. The planes are there, but the conspiracy jerk offs edited them out........
NO CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!!!!
Maymona13 3 years ago
Buttfuck your corrupt Government more.
Eirith 3 years ago
The plane could have turned from out of the smoke or clouds. The plane could have dropped in altitude as well. The planes tilted angle suggests to me that it just turned.
Justwannalogon 3 years ago 3
Like me, there are too many entire COUNTRIES, that believe NOT ONE WORD from USA goverment.
odagVen 3 years ago
"there are too many entire COUNTRIES, that believe NOT ONE WORD from USA goverment"
So who'd believe a bunch of taco-eating, alcoholic, mixed-race mongrels from a fourth-world banana republic?
Give it up, Pancho. Go back to fucking monkeys in the jungle. They're not nearly as ugly as Venezuelan pussy.
ResurrectedFish 3 years ago
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Resurrected Fish, do you think that you are not mixed race, asshole neonazi?. USA is not the center of the universe, first-world idiot!!.
odagVen 3 years ago
Wow! You are one unbelieveble moron! I'm impressed!
jahdi13 3 years ago
yea, ur probably right cause planes cant speed up or slow down.
jesusfreak890 3 years ago 2
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9/11 FULL STORY was exposed worldwide first long ago.
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Google:
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Truth666 3 years ago
Here is a problem: He assumes a speed that is never directly addressed. That is, what is the speed for that distance. It is a few miles. and this takes only a few seconds. The estimated hit speed is some 525mph +/-. But if we take the far right of screen to entry as being some 5 miles then the speed is approx 950mph +/-, or approx. one mile every 5 seconds.
hypnotstcollector 3 years ago
So, 6 billion people, including millions of direct eyewitnesses, were *all* fooled into thinking that planes hit the towers? I wish I had that sort of power of persuasion.
whitetower67 3 years ago
1). There weren't millions who witnessed the towers crash
2).Most of the population believe 9/11 was in an inside job. In recent MSN Votes, around 80% said 9/11 was an inside job.
SFxAMV 3 years ago
Exactly.. Anyone trying to get to the bottom of this has a right to question and examine.
Considering how many people think there is far more to all this than we have been told I for one am glad people out there are putting their minds to work on this whole bullshit situation and trying to gain some clarity, after all it'll be a frosty cold day in hell before any "official channels" actually give us raw info about anything to enable us to think for ourselves..
Zenman1976 3 years ago
Operation Northwoods\Mongoose spread the word
Calminmind 3 years ago
Do you reallize that this man has just proven those planes never hit the towers? Incredible!Those towers are actually still there and we just cant see them
fieryflyingserpent 3 years ago
He just tried to add some scientific analysis in order to work things out in his mind, and then posted the results, its called critical thinking, maybe you should try a little of it every once in a while MR SERPENT..
Zenman1976 3 years ago
very clever.
sherman4970 3 years ago 2
Very well done!!!
redryan5048 3 years ago
WTF???! Where did it come from then? Did it just appear from thin air?? So sick of these shit videos made by people who just want attention.
Face the facts that IT HAPPENED!
If you want people to believe in your theory, you must show us where YOU think the plane come from, so we can agree with you.
Or do you seriously want us to think that there was no plane at all?
gusteno8 3 years ago
good job!
mike93345 3 years ago
your theory works only if the plane was traveling at the same speed, im sure the terrorists pushed the throttle down 100%.
why cant you guys just face the fact that terrorists hijacked planes and crashed them, but you gotta go make all these consperacy theories to match your imagination, and you try to get others to follow it so you can feel better about yourself
Jestus13 3 years ago
you're stupid. if they went 100% throttle it wouldnt slow down. so you proved yourself wrong and him right
mike93345 3 years ago
it didnt slow down you fuck. thats why you couldn't see it when he did all that measuring shit.
yeah i guess im wrong, the fucking plane just came out of thin air, sorry for upsetting you all, i didnt know that was possible.
Jestus13 3 years ago
ya, your dumb theories have been proven wrong over and over, terrorists admitted to it x.x
bbbk123 3 years ago
your belief is more of a conspiracy then the government actually being behind it
it's weird that the pentagon is one of the most secured buildings in the world and has hundreds of cameras around it but none of them was released?
only one video was released several hundred feet back from a hotel and you see no airplane flying into it but clearly just an explosion and once that video was released which was just once, the government got a hold of it and filed law suits? law suits for what?
BSdrummer18 3 years ago
you know what brother, "Al quada" has long since taken responsability for the attacks, but the way I see it, there is just an inherant greed and evil in many humans, this power hungry dictator, that power hungry dictator,so much of mankind is just a bunch of children fighting on the playground in grownup bodies, and its always been that way.
loftymercury 3 years ago
the plane came in from a fairly steep angle. in other videos you can very clearly see the plane banking at the last minute. and it has been shown that the planes were both travelling faster before impact than they were when first spotted. the planes would have been speeding up from the second the towel head saw that he was on the right flightpath, and would hit the target. i would also like to hear from the new yorkers who were there at the time, to see if they saw any planes. im sure they did
w0bbl3r 3 years ago
What you don't seem to consider: the unexperienced terrorist flying the plane probably sped up briefly before the impact, once they had visual with the tower and were sure they'd hit it.
Otherwise, it would have been unlikely for an undtrained pilot to hit the tower from an approach that was already at top speed.
What else are you suggesting? The plane was composed into the live (!) footage? No chance in that quality. That is hours of work on today's state of the art compositing systems.
scmcg 3 years ago
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If you walk through a doorway with your arms outstretched, you discover a practical problem. If a plane flies into a skyscraper at an angle of 45 degees, each flimsy wing would encounter the resistance of 4 or 5 reinforced concrete floors. The wings should have ripped from the fuselage and plummetted to the ground, but they melt into the building. It can't be explained.
reddwarfski 3 years ago
smoke
fuzzy
a diving, not declining, plane will gain speed and then lose it to drag
a simple turn and it would be too little to see
thank god for the high quality option on youtube, hopefully we'll see better videos soon
ineptgod 3 years ago
If 911 was an "inside job" perpetrated by the U.S. government, what would it serve to destroy both towers? Wouldnt one suffice? Or perhaps a less important building?
loftymercury 3 years ago
my thinking is this: If hijackers had the ability to get 4 planes so easily, why wouldn't they have done 1 in NY, 1 Miami, 1 Seattle, 1 LA? If you want chaos, and these people obviously (not) had the ability, why choose 2 economic bldg and NOT Wall Street-street level? Bomb Studio city? etc.? Why choose the most heavily defended bldg, Pentagon? Would you actually believe, if you were a terrorist, that you could actually even come close the the Pent? Seriously.
klonedklein 3 years ago
yes klonedklein to anser yous question ,how can u stop a plane idiot
rNATOm 3 years ago
With that incredible grammar, I can't tell if you are just dimwitted, serious, or trying to be funny.
Maybe you should try again.
Who's the idiot?
klonedklein 3 years ago
There's things in life that are better left unspoken.
Take this for example: the leases were purchased on the WTC buildings for $15 million dollars, shortly after their demise the owner of the leases stood to obtain a $7 billion dollar insurance policy.
There were actually 2 different claims on the buildings, one for each building.
Now factor this in: the families of the people that died in the WTC buildings had a hard time getting their companies to pay their policies. Clauses were added
cpscheidt 3 years ago
Justify a War with Afganistan, Iraq, Iran and the American people may be....
Have you realize this. For every single speech about security or war they mention 911. "HO yes we have to go into iraq they have WMD and we don't want another 911 to happend"
vadh09 3 years ago
what would it serve to destroy both towers? well they were aiming for what was to come of it.
if you attack one of the biggest cities in America and take down two big ass important buildings, this would piss americans off, am i right?
i dont know about you but when i found out about 911 i was angry i wanted to get back at them, them meaning the people the governement was quick to blame.
which is good if your G.W bush and been planning to invade iraq since 2000
watch "new world order facts"
BSdrummer18 3 years ago
actually, the 9/11 attack was not needed to go into iraq. saddam was already dicking the inspectors around, and according to the sanctions laid down in 91, if he didnt let the inspectors do their job we were going back to finish the job. he agreed to those terms because we were all set to remove him from power back then. and it was all speculation about who was responsible until bin laden admitted it. i think if it was an inside job he would be quick to deny it so as to start more unrest
w0bbl3r 3 years ago
I believe 9/11 took place so that they can delcare war on "terror" a war that never ends and gives them an excuse to invade any part of the world they want, take away as many freedoms as they want all in the name of national security and the war on "terror". Its perfect...a war that goes on forever and can never be won because they can now create boogie men out of thin air and instill fear into the people and we will beg them to keep us safe and agree to anything they want. We are sheep.
PaladinRoden 3 years ago
nad you dont think its possible thatit could have been a terrorist attack?
it has been scientifically proven many times, you know
bin laden has admitted it, i would think he would be the first to say it was an inside job, dont you?
and if the plane wasnt there, as this vid suggests that means the whole city of new york is lying and therefore must be in on it, which is just impossible
w0bbl3r 3 years ago 3
Fuck your stupid.
MaadMonster 3 years ago
gee, thats about the greatest truther argument about it.
well done, you really proved it for me there. im convinced.
heh, and you say I am stupid? at least tell me how the whole city of new york couldnt be in on it if they said there were planes when in fact there werent?
the whole population of the city saw the planes. if there were no planes, all these people must be lying. understand? am i going slow enough for you?
please tell me how this is stupid, but accusing an entire city of lying isnt
w0bbl3r 3 years ago 2
How completely do they fool you? Just Google any of these and Matt Marriott
Lottery
ISS
BECAUSE the TRUTH is NEVER TOO HORRIBLE, even if YOU, the sheep, realize it only INSIDE the slaughterhouse.
9/11 FULL STORY was exposed worldwide first long ago.
From TV Fakery (no planes) to mini H bombs upwards directed, how Barbara Olson was murdered immediately after Massood, how Lisa Beamer was fooled, why the Pentagon and WTC7 were in the script, etc.
Google:
9/11 for dummies Matt Marriott
Truth666 3 years ago
jesus christ your assuming its fling in a perfectly straight line and your at a perfectly straight angle to the towers....it happened!!!!
blueeyedkid 3 years ago
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Your an Idiot!I bet your voting for Obama, if you are even from America
cocodrake 3 years ago
Too hard to see with all that smoke and fuzzy footage.
katyu16 3 years ago
Whether intentional or not, this video is total disinformation. This person shows NO KNOWLEDGE of either the way telephoto zoom lenses distort perspectives, what is or isn't recorded from a distance, not to mention video compression. In brief, the plane could have been there and not recorded as it would have been a very small 'speck'. However, we can't tell one way or the other from highly compressed video such as this where a small detail could easily be compressed out.
painterFMW 3 years ago
nonsense!!!!!!!!!!
tommyenglish1 3 years ago
that plane could have been not a commercial plane and could have been traveling at a higher rate of speed to make the invisible appeareance to where the camer doesnt pick it up frame by frame
Vexxcis 3 years ago
You should learn about relativity .
MASHandRuneScape 3 years ago
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why da fuck iz sum Mic bastid speakin on here--fuck back to irland bitch
CypressVillain128 3 years ago
While I agree that the argument in this video is flawed (eg, what if the plane wasn't flying in a straight line), I feel CypressVillain128's comments add nothing to the debate. What sort of spelling is that? Please only comment if you can add something!
alsavedvids 3 years ago 4
oh and what about speed ratios? you didn't factor in speed range mapping it out by frames... yeah... you need more to your mathematics. look say what you want. Conspiracy or No Conspiracy, you people have forgotten the most important thing... Innocent people were slain that day of all races. Get over yourselves, Remember that day and continue to live your lives and keep 9/11 in your head and hearts.
USCGSully 3 years ago
to many missing links like how the fuck does a boeing 757 fit in a 20 foot hole? A missle can but not a boeing 757
straightofdahood 3 years ago
The plane wasn't doing a straight line, it did a nosedive, air traffic controller for flight 175 calls it a powerdive, from 10.000 feet above, so you could not see it before. Only very shortly before hitting the towers it went on that straight line towards the towers. That is in fact extremely difficult even for a very experienced pilot, so
I do believe 9/11 was an inside job.
Too many unanswered questions...see film "Loose Change" on youtube
Touchofwesterwald 3 years ago
How completely do they fool you? Just Google any of these and Matt Marriott
Lottery
ISS
BECAUSE the TRUTH is NEVER TOO HORRIBLE, even if YOU, the sheep, realize it only INSIDE the slaughterhouse.
9/11 FULL STORY was exposed worldwide first long ago.
From TV Fakery (no planes) to mini H bombs upwards directed, how Barbara Olson was murdered immediately after Massood, how Lisa Beamer was fooled, why the Pentagon and WTC7 were in the script, etc.
Google:
9/11 for dummies Matt Marriott
Truth666 3 years ago
Do you suppose it could be obscured by the smoke?
Wormeatingdragon 3 years ago
mskydolphin 3 years ago
How Fast was the plane going? Who knows, therefore you cant say!
sleepy1238 3 years ago