Well played. I like to give the prelude a bit more of a marching cadence personally, but your interpretation was very nice too. Keep up the good work. ...I especially liked your fugue. I like it played a bit faster like that; very good.
Grade 10 exam from what school/institution? What are your other pieces? And regarding practice, its the quality over quantity that matters. Good luck anyway.
which brand and model camcorder do you use for recording your performances? I really need to get one with good audio sound so that I could record piano recitals. Thanks a lot if you can help!
a little bit fast, but soft, i think it sounds great.... someone told me once that bach's opus could be played in different tempo 'cause this is not clearly specified in the sheet music, i'm not sure this is accurate, the fact is you can hear this same preludio and fugue in different tempo here in youtube and sound great as well, please... light me....
A portable metronome wasn't invented until around 1815 or so, which is when Beethoven started adding metronome markings to his scores.
Bach didn't give any tempo indication for this piece. That doesn't mean he intended to leave tempo to the arbitrary discretion of the cluless 21st c. piano player. It just means that he never believed it would be such an issue.
The tempo marks in your piano edition of WTC were put in by the editor, not by Bach. They reflect only the editor's opinion.
this was a good performance but didn't take into account the speed: (slower on both prelude and fugue), as well as there being no pedal usage in baroque music. also the fugue is to be played in french overture style. you're playing is very good, however.
The Prelude was played Glenn Gould style and I find it to be simply the best way to do so. You see, it's a matter of taste. Nonetheless, I agree completely with you about the Fugue...
The editor? There are no tempo markings in the prelude or fugue ot the Bach Gesellschaft edition.
You say "the fugue is to be played in french overture style." Are you suggesting that the dotted notes should be double dotted? Would you play 3/16+1/16 as 7/32+1/32?
I don't think I've ever heard anyone, not even historically informed performers, play it that way. But perhaps you could point out a recording on YouTube that plays the fugue double dotted.
yes, double dotted is what i mean. you are right that there is no rule that this be played in the french overture style, however according to history this is how the pieces were played.
You observe that was "no pedal usage in baroque music". For that matter, there was (essentially) no "piano" usage either. LOL
The "damper pedal" on Silbermann's fortepianos (which Bach tried out) was just a hand stop which could be changed only during a pause. Even in the Classical era when knee levers or pedals were installed, the dampers were lifted mainly as a coloristic device.
I agree with you. I myself am a classical pianist with training from the Manhattan school of music, and I also prefer the prelude a bit slower. I love the prelude and like it slower to appreciate it more. She did a wonderful job though and I love her performance.
This prelude can give a hard time if you don't know how to stay relaxed. The key is to keep a good position - do not let your wrists hang below the keyboard and do not let your thumb tense up. If your thumb gets tense, the rest of your hand will tense up as well, making it hard to keep up the tempo as well. Hope this helps you a little =)
very well done, you played the prelude with almost exactly the same nuances and inflection that i play it with =]
but i thought it was common knowledge that in bach's time, the dotted-eighth/sixteenth groups in a French Overture (which is what that prelude is) were often played as double-dotted-eighth/thirty-seconds?
Correct! The fugue should be played in French Overture rhythm. Nearly all performances are NOT played in this fashion. Too bad as it truly gives life to the piece.
which measures r u referring to then? bar 4 and 5 of the fugue? if so, then a trill there would definitely be out of place and sound completely wrong! must be a printer's error on ur score, quite common
she didn't. i have the henle verlag urtext and i've played it. in the two first quoters there are a shert and a second long trills. almost every time in all the voices.
I' ve got an urtext edition and I don't see the trills you are talking about. There are only two trills in the fuga, in the bar 20 and 22 and I've played them.
most difficult prelude. And know the supreme achievement of overcoming the fingering of this PRELUDE. congratulations. I do not know the fugue and am not familiar with that involvement. Knowing just the prelude makes you a supreme pianist in my estimation. Continued success.
nice. i just have one comment to make on the fugue. the fugue actually has a tempo marking and then it says, "french overture style" which means it should sound very pompous and the dotted notes are faster.
There are no tempo markings for the prelude or the fugue in the Bach Gesellschaft edition.
The editor's marking "French overture style" is not a tempo marking. "it should sound very pompous" is late 19th c. nonsense. And the dotted notes are to played exactly as written, not "faster". But try playing the 3/16+1/16 pairs as 7/32+1/32, if you prefer. LOL
Wow, if you are third place i'd like to hear first! Was it the chick with the curly blond hair that won first?
MistyOjaiGirl 3 hours ago
what level is this piece?
TheHghef 2 months ago
I love it!!!!!
762radron 6 months ago
Well played. I like to give the prelude a bit more of a marching cadence personally, but your interpretation was very nice too. Keep up the good work. ...I especially liked your fugue. I like it played a bit faster like that; very good.
PowerForGood 9 months ago
You're amazing.
absolutjared 9 months ago
is it allow to have the recording ?
lol234hk 9 months ago
Great but too fast. Stress, I guess !
Sylbao 9 months ago
nice work darling...
MrJeremiahValenzuela 11 months ago
oh god i just started practicing this one i think i want to give up now that ive heard you
spongebob2789 1 year ago
Guilty?No, no I am innocent!!!I studied every day, I am not a criminal!!!Don t judge me!!lol
I don t even wanna think about how you feel playing piano in a court!!!!!!!!
sopranooriental 1 year ago 2
C'est bien ; manque un peu de style dans la fugue mais sinon ça va.
eelevinas 1 year ago
bravissima!!!
dolceamaro2 1 year ago
yay! im doing this for my examinations probably. this or BWV 871. :)
It's hard to go so fast without slipping, good job!
japanime5 1 year ago
vola!! lUV IT
TheVivianzzz 1 year ago
Im playing this now and I love it!
lcoz145 2 years ago
weuw that's huuuuugetastic fast!
sweetevilproductions 2 years ago
amazing, I love your tempo and balance. I am currently still learning this piece and am trying to get it down. Nice work!
lcoz145 2 years ago
Nice playing.
I'm currently working on this one.
Kalen1457 2 years ago 4
the end on the prelude is played incorrectly. don't stop so long
vicz200 2 years ago
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jeddyjeed 2 years ago
very nice :) good luck wih all your competitions!
XgoXwithXtheXflowX 2 years ago
wow awesome 5/5
Kraviotho 2 years ago
only a little less use of pedal would be better imho
1337Jogi 2 years ago
excellent
i personally like the fast style - bit like richters perfomance which is my favorite
1337Jogi 2 years ago
A little fast in my opinion, but still a great rendition
gee741 2 years ago
i hav my grade 10 exam in 2 months and my songs r so bad T.t... omg imma practice like 500 hrs a day now
tyuo9980 2 years ago 3
Grade 10 exam from what school/institution? What are your other pieces? And regarding practice, its the quality over quantity that matters. Good luck anyway.
shevansilva 2 years ago
maybe RCM
davidtruongfat 2 years ago
@davidtruongfat Would you really be in these type of these room if your going for ARCT?
xaznherox4life 2 years ago
lol thats what i do XD
procrastination FTW lol
0azn0gurl0 2 years ago
Great performance manu!
cosmicjazzer 2 years ago
Excellent performance. That had to be the brightest I've heard the prelude played. The fugue had that great french overture feel. Nice!
werewethere 2 years ago
1:26 ****** sorry
familymio 2 years ago
0:26 wtf?
familymio 2 years ago
Die 16tel sind schneller als der 32tel Lauf :D
Meiner Ansicht nach ist das Präludium viel zu schnell, die Dissonanzen im Mittelteil gehen völlig verloren und bloss weg mit dem Pedal
Orgelmeister1750 2 years ago
Very steady. Well done. Could use a little more dynamics, but that may just be the quality of the recording.
AndrewKesler 2 years ago 2
its how the song goes.
tyuo9980 2 years ago
i am playing this too! :) great playing!
bluepiggy7 3 years ago
which brand and model camcorder do you use for recording your performances? I really need to get one with good audio sound so that I could record piano recitals. Thanks a lot if you can help!
SLT0328 3 years ago
you play AWESOME !!
krino2lino 3 years ago
a little bit fast, but soft, i think it sounds great.... someone told me once that bach's opus could be played in different tempo 'cause this is not clearly specified in the sheet music, i'm not sure this is accurate, the fact is you can hear this same preludio and fugue in different tempo here in youtube and sound great as well, please... light me....
chorizoalegre 3 years ago
A portable metronome wasn't invented until around 1815 or so, which is when Beethoven started adding metronome markings to his scores.
Bach didn't give any tempo indication for this piece. That doesn't mean he intended to leave tempo to the arbitrary discretion of the cluless 21st c. piano player. It just means that he never believed it would be such an issue.
The tempo marks in your piano edition of WTC were put in by the editor, not by Bach. They reflect only the editor's opinion.
wcbroccoli 3 years ago
that was very comprehensive of you, thanks a lot....
chorizoalegre 3 years ago
oh. good playing
starspath89 3 years ago
Very nice fast version of the Prelude- done softly. Many others playing it crash hard playing the prelude fast. I liked your Fugue tempo too.
slizzler1 3 years ago
this was a good performance but didn't take into account the speed: (slower on both prelude and fugue), as well as there being no pedal usage in baroque music. also the fugue is to be played in french overture style. you're playing is very good, however.
nosesposes 3 years ago
The Prelude was played Glenn Gould style and I find it to be simply the best way to do so. You see, it's a matter of taste. Nonetheless, I agree completely with you about the Fugue...
LoopHomotopy 3 years ago
Who decides the correct speed?
The editor? There are no tempo markings in the prelude or fugue ot the Bach Gesellschaft edition.
You say "the fugue is to be played in french overture style." Are you suggesting that the dotted notes should be double dotted? Would you play 3/16+1/16 as 7/32+1/32?
I don't think I've ever heard anyone, not even historically informed performers, play it that way. But perhaps you could point out a recording on YouTube that plays the fugue double dotted.
wcbroccoli 3 years ago
yes, double dotted is what i mean. you are right that there is no rule that this be played in the french overture style, however according to history this is how the pieces were played.
and slower speed is personal preference.
smcleod111 3 years ago
I believe that Keith Jarrett plays it double dotted.... it's on here... check it out.
cosmicjazzer 2 years ago
You observe that was "no pedal usage in baroque music". For that matter, there was (essentially) no "piano" usage either. LOL
The "damper pedal" on Silbermann's fortepianos (which Bach tried out) was just a hand stop which could be changed only during a pause. Even in the Classical era when knee levers or pedals were installed, the dampers were lifted mainly as a coloristic device.
wcbroccoli 3 years ago
good voicing on the fugue
AlexShulhan123 3 years ago 2
ahhh...i have 2 days to learn this of..
very good keep up the work..
i agree with darkkerrigan keep relaxed♪♫
xxmizcxx 3 years ago
very amazing! i particularly enjoyed your interpretation of the fugue. cheers!
geneviene5 3 years ago
yeah you did good...I performed this for my thesis last May...you played it very well. The fugue is fun when you get the rhythms down. :-)
jessicaminahan7480 3 years ago
very good
alypianist 3 years ago
You're good, did you get first place?
carmenleungz 3 years ago
Third place, after a semifinal and a final round.
manupianist87 3 years ago
great job!
lee4ivy 3 years ago
its good but i think you played kind of fast, i like it slower for some reason
cataclysm4 3 years ago
I agree with you. I myself am a classical pianist with training from the Manhattan school of music, and I also prefer the prelude a bit slower. I love the prelude and like it slower to appreciate it more. She did a wonderful job though and I love her performance.
darkkerrigan 3 years ago
incredibly good. congratulations. indeed!
rogasbr 3 years ago 2
you're so good!!!!!!!
this song gave me a hard time :(
pap3rmate 3 years ago
This prelude can give a hard time if you don't know how to stay relaxed. The key is to keep a good position - do not let your wrists hang below the keyboard and do not let your thumb tense up. If your thumb gets tense, the rest of your hand will tense up as well, making it hard to keep up the tempo as well. Hope this helps you a little =)
darkkerrigan 3 years ago
why does it look like you're playing in a court?
crazlunatic 4 years ago 9
It was a piano competition, people you see are the judges.
manupianist87 3 years ago
Very well played, very structured and with expression, this is one of my favourites in the whole WTC, and really liked how you played it:).
Halaron 4 years ago
very well done, you played the prelude with almost exactly the same nuances and inflection that i play it with =]
but i thought it was common knowledge that in bach's time, the dotted-eighth/sixteenth groups in a French Overture (which is what that prelude is) were often played as double-dotted-eighth/thirty-seconds?
ev13191 4 years ago 2
Correct! The fugue should be played in French Overture rhythm. Nearly all performances are NOT played in this fashion. Too bad as it truly gives life to the piece.
gregsarnelli 3 years ago
Well done.
Preliude -10
fuga-8
Congratulations!
sigotas 4 years ago
OOoooo You are awesome!!!
Lhumbertocc 4 years ago
In my music it: re mi fa sol fa mi fa re si(tril) si la(long tril) sol fa sol (la si do re do si do la fa(tril) fa mi(long tril) re do).
faa(tril) fa si, ect :))
I have the henle verlag urtext, I think the best scores.
:)
RADAMES1983 4 years ago
which measures r u referring to then? bar 4 and 5 of the fugue? if so, then a trill there would definitely be out of place and sound completely wrong! must be a printer's error on ur score, quite common
chicoflaco 4 years ago
is she in court?!
chicoflaco 4 years ago
No, I'm not in court, but it's a piano competition so it's similar :-)
manupianist87 4 years ago
I hate playing in front of judges. It is court!
Godlovesyou234 4 years ago
Overall played very smoothly - well done!
Some parts seem a bit rushed though
The dotted notes in the fugue are a bit shorter, I think
sugahypedazn 4 years ago
nice. but where are all the trills in the fuga??
:)
RADAMES1983 4 years ago
she put them in, u just gotta listen closely
chicoflaco 4 years ago
she didn't. i have the henle verlag urtext and i've played it. in the two first quoters there are a shert and a second long trills. almost every time in all the voices.
RADAMES1983 4 years ago
I' ve got an urtext edition and I don't see the trills you are talking about. There are only two trills in the fuga, in the bar 20 and 22 and I've played them.
manupianist87 4 years ago
you are right
chicoflaco 4 years ago
Im playing this piece for my grade 10 rcm exammination
Musicloverforever89 4 years ago
I just started RCM Grade 10... and my teacher gave me this piece. Now I'm scared O.O
Nani101 4 years ago
RCM Grade 10!
darthguitar 4 years ago
most difficult prelude. And know the supreme achievement of overcoming the fingering of this PRELUDE. congratulations. I do not know the fugue and am not familiar with that involvement. Knowing just the prelude makes you a supreme pianist in my estimation. Continued success.
EITHSNE1 4 years ago
nice. i just have one comment to make on the fugue. the fugue actually has a tempo marking and then it says, "french overture style" which means it should sound very pompous and the dotted notes are faster.
so like, "bam......BAHBAM, BAHMAM"
semprelegato 4 years ago
There are no tempo markings for the prelude or the fugue in the Bach Gesellschaft edition.
The editor's marking "French overture style" is not a tempo marking. "it should sound very pompous" is late 19th c. nonsense. And the dotted notes are to played exactly as written, not "faster". But try playing the 3/16+1/16 pairs as 7/32+1/32, if you prefer. LOL
wcbroccoli 3 years ago