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  • Gone much too soon but thank goodness we have videos like this to keep her artistry and talent alive.

  • I love the way she handles all the mishaps!

    She was such a wonderful performer...her

    gorgeous voice silenced way too soon.

    Thank you for posting this gem.

  • What a joy to see as well as hear this. Troyanos' performance of Ariodante at Carnegie Hall around this time was a revelation to me. After that I saw her every chance I get and could never understand why a CD of that performance was never released. This video brings her back to life, Thank you!

  • "Up here, it's breezy." :D :D

    She has a lot of class and poise to weather (pun intended) that mishap, and then she *still* continues to sing beautifully. Thanks for posting!

  • Very nice clip....I adore her voice! Thank you Satoko, having a great sense of humour is a sign of intelligence!

  • Tatiana, has sido un haz de luz en el camino de la opera.

    te admirarmos por siempre Q.E.P.D.

  • You can see Tatiana's lovely personality here.

    I would have love to be there...

    Thank you so much for posting!

    She is absolutely gorgeous...

    RIP Tatiana

  • Martin Katz is a stud!

  • Though I prefer Ann Murray's or Kirchschlager's version - this voice is soooo amazing!

  • Magnifique!!

  • Why make such a big deal about using a different version? She is a wonderful singer.

  • ... or was, I should say.

  • The first time I heard Troyanos was in this part. The Kennedy Center concert hall opened with Aln Titus doing Bernstein's Mass. The opera house simulatneously opened with Ariodante. Sills was the big star but Troyanos out sang her. Donald Gramm and Phillip Booth did the bass roles. I forget the tenor.

  • she was a giant or is Martin Katz not tall at all ? Actually she's wonderful : Why do we have to hear poor voices in baroc music when such great singer with volume and ringing tones sing it so great ?

    As usual, thank you Madame Troyanos for having reorded it !

  • She is amazing, but I disagree that we hear poor voices in baroque music. Baorque and classical are in fashion these days and there are many wonderful singers, both conventional and unconventional, who sing those genres.

  • I don't know how tall or not Martin Katz is, but Tatiana Troyanos was a little taller than 1,80m. (Sorry, don't know in feet...)

  • She was just under 6 ft. There's a funny photo of her singing Dido with Placido Domingo, and he's clearly wearing elevator sandals.

    Anyone have a video of her Scherza Infida?

  • @geschwitz4

    I have one. Her singing is really wonderful.

    I will forward it to you.

  • he is small...

  • That's amazing that she could sing that AND Venus in Tannhauser! I have always loved her voice, and singing. Such a smoothness.

  • Yup, and even a killer Santuzza. Just watched a DVD of it (Domingo is Turiddu). She was an amazing artist! :o)

  • Tatiana put the balls in those pants roles. God love her!

  • grazie per aver messo a disposizione questa straordinari testimonianza!! è meravigliosa...tutto, l'atmosfera, la voce, il pianista...un momento divino!!

  • Poor Tatiana! First the audience claps in the middle of the song, then the breezes knock the music off of the piano. Thank the good lord she had a sense of humor (imagine if that had happened to Callas!)

  • Kid, RELAX! don't worry about "Poor Tatiana". See how well she handled it? Like you said, she had a sense of humor. At least you had the right attitude towards that situation, as opposed to some who proceeded to tear her to shreds.

  • @hillevifan

    Totally agreed. I think it that had happend to Kathleen Battle...........

    Tatiana was really great!

  • A great artists and and wonderful Handel singer. She broke ground for the Handel revival that is in full swing today. Obviously there are some children who watch these videos and they don't know ... from Shinola about great singing!!

  • Wow,"butcher" is an understatement! I think she sang just about half the aria. Well, that was back then! I feel lucky that this is no longer acceptable.

    In defense of the great Troyanos (I can't believe I need to!) her technique is great, and her tempo quite judicious. Her Cleopatra (to Dietrich Fischer-Diskau's GC!) is great! If she was around now, as one can only wish (sigh), she'd be having a good time with all the great Baroque maestri.

  • O.K. I wouldn't go as far as to refer to it as "butcher" but you're right that this edition is not accurate. I call it super-abbridged, NOW THAT I GOT THE SCORE AND memorized the entire thing in detail I see what you mean

  • No worries about that, mate. These singers use different 'cuts' in recitals all the time, it's not a big deal (but Tatiana would have had to approve the version used since she would have prepared with her accompanist before hand). Recitals aren't opera performance, so bickering over cuts is just sweating small stuff.

    She was a fine artist who is no longer with us. That some people would go around bashing her says more about them than it does her.

  • You'll see that in a way, I agree with you, if you take a look at my other 2 comments from one month ago, specifically in reply to GiovanniCarestini and the other reply to him by Vitelia, plus all the other comments not necessarily in response to anyone. You'll see that I have a super admiration for Tatiana.

    (by the way, nothing less than 5*)

  • Ummm...you're being unnecessarily mean. troyanos was one of the people who made these roles popular. She is singing a version BY Handel, and her ornamentation was typical of the period (1980s). Troyanos was one of THE great singers (a big star at the Met), her Carmen, Kundry, Giulietta, Romeo (particularly), Adalgisa, Komponist and Octavian are legendary, as is her Cleopatra, Cesare and Ariodante.

  • She delivers such a perfect rendition, she makes it sound like no one ever needed singing lessons. The voice just flows out so easily, almost as if involuntary! Breath control, yepp; she's mastered that! Her style, simple Handel, as opposed to overly dramatic (which would border "out of tune"). Sounds JUST VERY NATURAL. What else can I say? BEAUTIFUL JOB!

  • absolutely. absolutely correct. Haendel should be sung clean straight and bare-hearted when appropriate. I can't stand the too-clever ornamentations.

  • Oh no, this ain't a version by Handel. He'd be flipping in his grave. I love Troyanos, but let's get the fact straight: whoever came up with this "version" butchered and massacred the great aria into a fraction and reduced it into a recital opener. I wish she hadn't sung this "version" at all as she would've been brilliant singing the entire aria. Again, I'm glad we know better now than then, and this practice is considered unacceptable.

  • Did Janet Baker also record this version on her complete Ariodante? I think she may have...another on who could have sung the fuller version but didn't. Is it definitely not by Handel, I vaguely remember an alternate version of this aria at the back of the full score. I love the farce halfway through...

  • Yes she Janet baker also did this version.. actually before the rebirth of attraction for baroque musique in the 90's , Everyone was doing this "cut" version , Lorraine hunt and von otter were almost the first doing the complete version of this aria on cd

  • This version is DEFINITLY done by handel himself, I have the original score! Handel wrote himself an alternative version of the aria ( kind of easier one),with less coloraturas. He does that sometime with extremly virtuosic aria,like the aria"A dispetto" in Tamerlano where also there he wrotes himself the cuts in the coloraturas section..So i was following the video with the score under my eyes and Miss Troyanos did exactly what is written in this alternative version of "Col l'ali di costanza"!!

  • An "uninformed, amateur", SHE IS NOT! and there is nothing so called "unprofessional" about this recital, or "juvenile" She handled the situation beautifully, in good humor. Don't forget, she did not go fetch a gust of wind tat blew off the pianist's score, and she did not make the audience clap in the middle of an unfinished performance. She rehearsed hours a day for years, just for you to trash her TALENT and total achievement. Baby, that ain't cool!

  • BRAVISSIMA!! Even if she do the optional version written by handel , with less coloratura..this is still wonderful.. Love it!

  • She skips a lot of music, tho... even before the breeze keeps blowing the score off the piano.

  • Whatever she did, God blessed her. And Handel too.

    Anyway, I love most the moment when she touches his hand.

  • Agree!

  • O.K. This is not to diminish from her beautiful perfomance, but honestly, whoever chose this super- abbridged edition of "Con l'ali di costanza for her, I don't know what was the matter with them. It's not the original. Now that I know the score off by heart, I realize that quite a few parts were skipped, but I doubt Tatiana did that, because the pianist seemed to have the same edition as what she was singing, and it's rather odd. But I'm sure many people back then didn't know the difference

  • One of the best rendition of this aria I've heard! Thanks for posting this clip. :o)

    RIP Tatiana, you splendid thing!

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