@Emelie99 except for the voice codec with is closed proprietary and may not be implemented in any way other than the hardware solution provided by the patent holder. If they could correct this D-Star would face much less opposition.
D-Star is not Icom's. In fact it was created by the Japanese ARL. Icom just is the primary implementer in the US. You also forgot to mention the codec used by D-Star DV is closed source proprietary that inhibits any use by consumers other than the hardware implementation by the patent owner. Which is in direct violation of the ideas of amateur radio and still in debate even today as to weather it's a direct violation of part 97. For more factual info check the D-Star wikipedia page.
D-Star is not Icom's. In fact it was created by the Japanese ARL. Icom just is the primary implementer in the US. You also forgot to mention the codec used by D-Star DV is closed source proprietary that inhibits any use by consumers other than the hardware implementation by the patent owner. Which is in direct violation of the ideas of amateur radio and still in debate even today as to weather it's a direct violation of part 97. For more factual info check the D-Star wikipedia page.
@teamfab In todays world you can not think that way. there is no difference between modern radios and computers, both are just communications devices. As stated in the editorial of this months QST, if amateur radio doesn't evolve, it will die. In fact it slowly is that is why there is such a big push to embrace new technology and draw in more youth.
.@bmmcwhirt I can take on board some of your points but modern technology does not embrace the romance of amateur radio and just because something evolves doesn't mean its better, i mean man evolved from apes and just take a look at the bloody mess he's made of things lately..
@teamfab I agree there is much to be said of the older technology. For instance I buy as much of my music as I can on vinyl and make my own mp3. Most sample rates supported by mp3 players just are not as good as a nice analog signal. And no solid state technology on this planet to date compares with a good tube amplifier. The point is we have to take the new and move forward, it doesn't mean we have to throw out the old. It does mean that we have a responsibility to teach the old to the new.
So, if I get this, DStar may or may not be supported by local technology when the situation is stressed and the excrement flows into a rapidly rotating blade of some sort? Looks as though everything works fine while everything is working fine, IMHO.
Would the networking function still work with the internet gateway down? I was thinking of a BBS type system with dial-in through radio for places where communication lines are often down. If all outside communication were down, could those connected to the same repeater still access a server connected to that repeater?
@morghanphoenix You will still be able to communicate with other hams on the same frequency, sharing files, etc it will just be off-line. Basically like a huge LAN.
Nice video, but ICOM does not own D-Star. It's not "their" technology, they just happen to be the only manufacturer making the equipment at this time.
I hear a lot about digital communication. Have you forgotten a PC / laptop, mobile broadband ISP with Echolink?. Packet has TCP / IP for several years with AX25. This is mostly the D-star's potential use, has been available for some time. and to a much cheaper price. Hear a lot about the PTP, but nothing about the groups and / or ring-QSO 's. I see a great future in this system, but limited to a narrow form of communication. The price and that the rod be tied to Icom, reduces confidence.
rubbish as its not amateur radio its icom? eh
756shack 6 months ago
Why use ham radio then? Better to use paltalk. If you are usin the internet.
hrflikk 9 months ago
@Emelie99 except for the voice codec with is closed proprietary and may not be implemented in any way other than the hardware solution provided by the patent holder. If they could correct this D-Star would face much less opposition.
bmmcwhirt 1 year ago
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D-Star is not Icom's. In fact it was created by the Japanese ARL. Icom just is the primary implementer in the US. You also forgot to mention the codec used by D-Star DV is closed source proprietary that inhibits any use by consumers other than the hardware implementation by the patent owner. Which is in direct violation of the ideas of amateur radio and still in debate even today as to weather it's a direct violation of part 97. For more factual info check the D-Star wikipedia page.
bmmcwhirt 1 year ago
D-Star is not Icom's. In fact it was created by the Japanese ARL. Icom just is the primary implementer in the US. You also forgot to mention the codec used by D-Star DV is closed source proprietary that inhibits any use by consumers other than the hardware implementation by the patent owner. Which is in direct violation of the ideas of amateur radio and still in debate even today as to weather it's a direct violation of part 97. For more factual info check the D-Star wikipedia page.
bmmcwhirt 1 year ago
All sounds really great but i like radio to be radio and computers to be computers. I like old style.....
teamfab 1 year ago
@teamfab In todays world you can not think that way. there is no difference between modern radios and computers, both are just communications devices. As stated in the editorial of this months QST, if amateur radio doesn't evolve, it will die. In fact it slowly is that is why there is such a big push to embrace new technology and draw in more youth.
bmmcwhirt 1 year ago
.@bmmcwhirt I can take on board some of your points but modern technology does not embrace the romance of amateur radio and just because something evolves doesn't mean its better, i mean man evolved from apes and just take a look at the bloody mess he's made of things lately..
Martin
teamfab 1 year ago
@teamfab I agree there is much to be said of the older technology. For instance I buy as much of my music as I can on vinyl and make my own mp3. Most sample rates supported by mp3 players just are not as good as a nice analog signal. And no solid state technology on this planet to date compares with a good tube amplifier. The point is we have to take the new and move forward, it doesn't mean we have to throw out the old. It does mean that we have a responsibility to teach the old to the new.
bmmcwhirt 1 year ago
So, if I get this, DStar may or may not be supported by local technology when the situation is stressed and the excrement flows into a rapidly rotating blade of some sort? Looks as though everything works fine while everything is working fine, IMHO.
Tipledan 1 year ago
@Tipledan That's about it DSTAR is still a very experimental technology
christopherve7alb 1 year ago
Would the networking function still work with the internet gateway down? I was thinking of a BBS type system with dial-in through radio for places where communication lines are often down. If all outside communication were down, could those connected to the same repeater still access a server connected to that repeater?
morghanphoenix 1 year ago
@morghanphoenix You will still be able to communicate with other hams on the same frequency, sharing files, etc it will just be off-line. Basically like a huge LAN.
christopherve7alb 1 year ago
Nice video, but ICOM does not own D-Star. It's not "their" technology, they just happen to be the only manufacturer making the equipment at this time.
WB6SVS 1 year ago
Your video was very inspiring Sir. Thanks for taking the time and effort to produce it.
It is nice to see someone going the extra mile to help other hams.
volvoman440 1 year ago
Thank you very informative Barry M6CLA 73
pspbarry 1 year ago
Thank you very informative Barry M6CLA 73
pspbarry 1 year ago
Yeah but,if d-star servers go down no communications. or do they have some thing to keep systems up?
Win98Error 1 year ago
The Internet gateway will go down but standalone repeaters can still function much like an FM repeater without IRLP
christopherve7alb 1 year ago
I hear a lot about digital communication. Have you forgotten a PC / laptop, mobile broadband ISP with Echolink?. Packet has TCP / IP for several years with AX25. This is mostly the D-star's potential use, has been available for some time. and to a much cheaper price. Hear a lot about the PTP, but nothing about the groups and / or ring-QSO 's. I see a great future in this system, but limited to a narrow form of communication. The price and that the rod be tied to Icom, reduces confidence.
oz1dwf 1 year ago
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oz1dwf 1 year ago
No doubt it provides superior audio?
Have you actually HEARD D-Star audio?
Ayrshore 1 year ago
I know what Crossband Repeat is, but could you please explain your "Advanced" statement?
What makes D-Star Crossband Repeat "advanced"? Crossband Repeat is Crossband Repeat, right?
visor109 2 years ago
Can a D-Star link system communicate with an analog one?
kf6vgz 3 years ago
I don't believe so. At this point in time DSTAR is completely different then the analog system.
christopherve7alb 3 years ago
i think if the output is set to analog it can get out okay.
564955charlie 2 years ago