Dervishes

[IRANisPERSIA1]

this looks so cool

[virgocupid]

leaves me breathles...

[AlQuranWaAlAhadeeth]

So which hadith or ayah is this supposed to be derived from? It certainly couldn't be one of the ones prohibiting music...

[DarthComrade]

I would like to add to the discussion below a little from my perspective...

I don't see any evidence of people committing bid'a here.

But, as soon as you start claiming it is either permitted or forbidden in Quran or Sunna then you are committing bid'a. So, please, refrain from throwing accusations at each other.

This is an innocent and beatiful art and its done with the Almighty in mind and heart. I approve.

[gassimgassim]

@DarthComrade

Thank you , it is an innocent and beautiful art. Thank you once again.

[gassimgassim]

sightsandsoundsofpak I agree with you

[gassimgassim]

DarthComrade..Thank you , I totally agree with you.Than you once again.

[sightsandsoundsofpak]

You said it yourself: they want to be with Allah (SWT) and in my eyes that cannot be wrong or haram. Tasawwuf is the soul of Islam and we need that more than anything noweverdays. Not strict dogmatism. We need to convey the message of love and piece which Islam stands for and not lecture about hell and heaven. Show people the greatness of Allah (SWT) by loving all that is created by Allah (SWT) Muslims, non Muslims anybody /everybody created by Allah (SWT) should be loved and cherished.

[madhattery341]

Allah, Brahma, Nirvana, The Kingdom of Heaven; to me it all means Love Without Conditions

[AlQuranWaAlAhadeeth]

ok well you are a kafir and you might believe all of that, but if you die believing all of that then you are going to burn in Hell for forever.

[KelbAlrai1990]

@sightsandsoundsofpak Amin to that, I do admire Sufism cause of its openness and inclusiveness, I'm a Muslim and I take ideas from Sufism, and I notice when I try love everyone for the God's sake I feel so much better, if feels great to have love in your heart, hate just poisons you and turns you into a monster.

[mohammadhassanzadeh]

do they even pray 5 times a day?

[Bismika1986]

Allah (SWT) Loves One Who Is Only Concerned With His/Her Own Business...One Should Also Not Judge What Nor Question Another As He/She Does Not Know His/Her Status Before The Almighty Lord Allah (SWT)..Besides...One Has Not Been With Another Every Second Of Anothers Life In Which They May Have Done Such A Great Deed Before The Eyes Of His/Her "Creator Allah (SWT)"

[vakulintschuk]

are there people who do that dervish dance in switzerland?

[lausdomin]

Reading The Koran I came to 76:29: "Let him that will, take the right path to his Lord. Yet you cannot will, except by the will of Allah. Allah is wise and all-knowing." I felt that a great Truth is woven in those simple three sentences!

[gassimgassim]

I agree

[40AcreMule]

If all Muslims were Sufi the world would be a better place.

[bahrey]

thank u for ur comment ..

my question if all muslims were Sufi do u think the rest of the world other the Muslims would make the world better place?

my point is are the other societies and cultures are sinless?

what i think every where in the world u could find sins and

Virtue . beside that all of the religions and believes which came from God such as Judaism, Christianity, Islam are pure and clear but its up to us as human to choses how we interpret them and use them

[gassimgassim]

I agree

[amenshita]

I think the pure and clear Muslims tend to be Sufi.

I'm not saying that non-Sufi Muslims are not pure.

What I mean is only decent person chooses to be Sufi (at least it seems to me so)

in that point, I agree with gassimgassim

[hasnain0099]

@40AcreMule

If all non-muslims would have leave muslims alone and stop exploiting them by imposing Wars in the greed of oil and resources and Al-Quaida (the name of freedom as portrayed) I can guarantee you the world will be a much better place

[bukkworm]

@40AcreMule if all americans were like noam chomsky world would be a better place if all zionists were jews world would be better place bro there good and bad people in every community

[tampa95]

Spiritual gyro dance and music are bid'at in Islam..

[jowjowbro]

the dervish dance on guild wars is much beter :D

[Rabbanisufi]

oh yea? well know this brother... Sayyidina Abu Bakr as-shiddiq was d first to do this, when celebrating d hijrah of Prophet SAW in Madinah, whirl along with d universe, along with the angels, reaching God's hand..people like u wont understand even until judgement day

[CorrectYourselfFirst]

The Prophet sallah Allahau 'alayhi wassalam said in the authentic hadeeth: there will be people from my ummah who will make alcohol, fornication, music, and gambling halal. This video is proof of that hadeeth ALLAAHU AKBAR, may Allaah protect this ummah from these misguided dizzy dancers.

[l33taekwon]

Rumi was persian, for you its imposible to understand his thoughts and mind. Worship god! Islam is fake

[gassimgassim]

I have no interest to understand Rumi's mind or thoughts, I have my mind and thoughts as well and they make me happy, He is a great poet and I like what he wrote, but I like as well my art and my liberty, I have no need for heros, model people or whatever, I'm a free soul and I do like what I do without even justifying it.

[l33taekwon]

If you use your mind you will see that it was a reply to previous poster. There is only god. Muslims chirstian jews thats only a game ...

[gassimgassim]

Thank you, I don't need to use my mind , I just need to have a good coffee before I start writing on YouTube :), I do agree with you , there is only God.

[CorrectYourselfFirst]

Every worship that is commanded in Islaam like salaah, zakaah, sawm, THIKR, JIHAAD is outlined STEP BY STEP as to how to carry it out. why on earth do sufis think that it is different with thikr? THIKR has a strict methodology to apply it like every other worship. CAN YOU MAKE UP YOUR OWN SALAAH or ZAKAAH? so how can you make up your own thikr like these sufis do? this is pure dalaalah and every dalalah is in hellfire.

[gassimgassim]

Thanks for your comments, this is not Salah, this is just art and has nothing to do with any Dalal.You should read a little bit more on the Holy Quran to understand the difference between art,prayers and other small details, btu I do thank you for your opinion and I do appreciate your input,you are always welcome.

[CorrectYourselfFirst]

this is not just "ART" for them as you put it. THIS IS HOW THEY DO THIKR. They will all tell you it is thikr. This is a form of worship for them. AND HOW DARE ANYONE ADD NEW FORMS OF WORSHIP TO THE RELIGION OF ALLAAH. This innovation is in the hellfire.

[gassimgassim]

You write from the background of your belief, they act as a background of their belief, as you know they have been created by Allah as well and therfore they have the opportunity to join you in your belief or not, If you have an open discussion like this with them you might convince them of your approach, but until then ..it is a big universe with lots of wonders brother.

[CorrectYourselfFirst]

wonders?? everything we need to know is revealed in quran and sunnah. it is also revealed that there will be 73 sects in islaam and all of them are in the hellfire except 1 and they are those who are upon what the prophet and the companions are upon. this dancing has nothing to do with the sunnah.

[gassimgassim]

how do you combine seeing Youtube and going to heaven at the same time without accepting that art has an internal freedom that develops your own ability to understand and appreciate more this great creation of Allah. How do you see others while you restrict your choices?!

[CorrectYourselfFirst]

and even if it was just art, you think muslims can do anything when it comes to art? we are bound by qur'an and sunnah, i dont mind people falling into sin, that is between them and Allaah, but when people innovate and then say its from islaam when it is not, we have to fight this, not broadcast it on youtube.

[gassimgassim]

The question is why are you seeing it? and how did you come to use Youtube while "as you say..we can not do anything when it comes to art" How can you explain the evolution of(Multimedia,broadcasting, technology and art)? and another question , where do you rate your self in relation to the 1 sect that is suppose to go to Heaven , knowing that there are people praying the whole night, and they are dedicating their whole life for worshiping Allah.

[CorrectYourselfFirst]

no INNOVATION IN THE RELIGION ie in worship..this is the innovation the hadeeth is talking about..not technology, don't play these mind games. you are only deceiving yourself.

[gassimgassim]

I have no reason to deceive myself, and as I wrote before you see it as innovation they see it as Art, you want them to accept your definitions, they want you to visualize theirs, you claim to know the truth , they think they know about it, and in between there is a huge space of others as well.

[CorrectYourselfFirst]

there is NO SPACE for innovation in Islaam. EVERY INNOVATION in the dean is in hellfire like the Prophet said. THey can do as they want, as long as they dont ascribe this garbage to islaam, then we wont have a problem. Islaam is free from this.

[gassimgassim]

Who are we?! these people are muslims (They say La Illaha Ila Allah, Mohamad Rasoul Allah), who are you to tell who is the Muslim and who is not! who appointed you as a prosecutor to decide who is in hell and who is heaven?! You have not read the Holy Quoran enough, you need to know exactly what is your part and your part is not to cancel other parts and other people, You are not the only voice of Islam, Islam is far greater than your shrinked mind.You even mostly do not recall the Holy Quoran.

[CorrectYourselfFirst]

i didnt say anyone was kaafir i said they are on dalaalah understand.you are posting this garbage on the net for thousands to see so show me the evidence from the sunnah that the prophet sallah Allahau 'alayhi wassalam danced like these misguided fools its simple, bring the evidence or admit its garbage

[gassimgassim]

I do not need an evidence for Art, you may discuss issues has to do with Islam on Dr.wafa page, there is more need of your support there.

[mahboby]

this the best i saw.

Raheeb, Majnoon,proffesional.

[CorrectYourselfFirst]

if it was the best then the prophet sallah Allahau 'layahi wassalam would've been the first to do it. May Allaah guide you