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  • Final fantasy is not the only RPG game.... just saying

  • ok first off, everyone is entitled to their opinions; second, ff7... come on, really? 7?! it was ok and was no where "EPIC" that u or ur homo gay loving friends lead it to believe. Honestly, the FF series went down the shit hole after 5 and yes i did play all ff games. In my opinion FFTactics series was the best because it required more strategy and thought, and some of the bosses were actually challenging.

  • Who cares about FF, you should talk about this fantastic game and this amazing battle theme. *_*

  • I can't wait for it to come out on DS.

  • why are people fighting about which final fantasy game is the best, the only one i ever played was 4 so i have no real opinion

  • @lazyguy800

    Because they're dumb. Every game has its goods and bads, and there will always be someone that will like a game that they don't, and vise versa.

  • definitivamente la musica y el sistema de batallas por cartas son lo mejor que este juego ofrecio!

  • give it a talk bout the music... and not whats better... both were excellent rpgs... ff & bk...

    only thing imo... i´ve played so many rpgs in my life... but the baten kaitos soundtrack is one of di biggest ever... ever... :D

  • its called 'ruler of the nine skies'

  • wiiiiiii 100º like :D!çAside from that, I have only one thing to say!

    The Great Mizuti is the best. Arcana! Mega Flood!

  • Am I the only one here who loves both FF and Baten Kaitos?

  • @dobadobadooo no your not. i do also

  • when i listened to this in the living room i told myself: Shadow of the Colossus... then look in the screen'' crap, its.... whaat?!!

  • Bitches don't know Baten Kaitos didn't need slutty girls with impossibly oversized tits (Tifa Lockheart) to be the most epic/Touching RPG i've ever played.

  • @AristaBomb also ff7 isnt the most epic/touching final fantasy. most long time fans agree that ff6 is and it was for super nintendo. no big titted sluts there.

  • lmao at all these idiots hating on FF. You can like your mainstream and niche RPG's at the same time. I love FF and I love Baten Kaitos. Grow up, you jealous, immature idiots.

  • @yoyoyo88665 well these "idiots" hating on FF only hate it because some tiny dick japanese guy wanted money so he did EVERYTHING he could (probably whored himself out with guys) to get this game on the road and eventually to be the most well known franchise (complete waste of money IMO) the games were shitty had terrible graphics and LAME TO THE BONE fan service (not that i look for it). Tifa has so many hentai mangas made by them (not fan made) its not even funny. again Fuck FF.

  • @AristaBomb you say they were shitty and had shitty graphics do you? all the way up to final fantasy 10 they had the best graphics available for the system at the time. every one of the games had the best graphics of the time, some of the best music of the time, and were the most powerful stories of the time. if you argue this you werent playing every one of them when they were released like i was as far back as the final fantasy for nintendo.

  • @yoyoyo88665 Baten Kaitos has no fan service and wants to lure people in with epic gameplay, story and believe it or not IT RELATES TO LIFE. People living in the sky after the world is destroyed? Got any idea how many people think of this on a daily basis? Final fantasy just lures people in with bogus characters and slutty girls and fat ugly emo girls with guys like Sephiroth, Wakka, Tidus and so on. Baten Kaitos is a much more mature but because its MATURE (Not by rating) it's Underrated

  • @AristaBomb You just sound like an ignorant idiot who's jealous of FF's popularity and can't see past that. There's a reason why they're popular.

  • @yoyoyo88665 i "sound ignorant" cause you're unable to comprehend what the fuck i just said. Maybe take your head outta final fantasy like then intend to keep your ass in and get into a real world with gameplay and story related to people's REAL fantasy. Final fantasy is just some asian guy's complete wet dream broken up into what many different game seasons (what like 15 FFs?) he's got so many its stupid and lemme guess you rode on the dick of all of em? Baten Kaitos like i said beats all of em

  • @yoyoyo88665 "real fantasy is a paradox" but its a point im trying to make. Again you probably only FF because of the most popular one and well known (The lame ass FF7) i hated that game with a passion, because theres losers all over youtube putting gel in their hair and stealing swords and wrapping em up with paper to imitate cloud's buster sword.. Baten kaitos most likely has none of that shit goin on, im sure there was a convention for it like every game but FF is beyond retarted with fans.

  • @AristaBomb Look you just have the wrong impression. I hate the Final Fantasy fanbase too. Every one of them puts one or two FF's on a pedestal and completely bashes and insults every other FF and its fans. BUT the games are all great. FFVII isn't "the best game of all time", but it's great. Every FF is completely different, so I'm sure you can find an FF that you'll like. Baten Kaitos is amazing too and I hope BK3 is announced at E3 but don't hate FF just because of its fans.

  • @yoyoyo88665 ok fine you're right shouldn't bash a game cause of the fans but the other point i had made was all the fan service the incorporate in the game. In Baten Kaitos theres none which was quite a shock to me because we all know japan uses sex to pull someone into a game. By far every FF game has done that except for the ones on SNES and yeah you're right about me finding one i liked but it wasn't an RPG it was Final Fantasy Tactics. Point being, i never had a game lure me in with deep

  • @yoyoyo88665 character development, heart breaking story and beautiful graphics. The voice acting could use some improvement. I hated FF cause of its creator who's obviously money obsessed (like most of the world is) he doesn't care about the fans. If you were to ask him to make a Revamped FF7 or FFX-2 (Better graphics more development) he wouldn't do it why?; Cause he'd be "giving them too much" Baten Kaitos had its share in doing that but instead in the sequel it goes back in time.

  • @AristaBomb No offense but it seems like you're just jealous of its popularity. And the thing about the "developer" is BS.... maybe they don't want to make a revamped FFVII yet because they're focusing on other projects. An FFVII remake is wanted, and they'll make it one day, trust me. Don't hate a series for stupid reasons like that. Every FF game is great and the staff POURS their hearts out in every game. Go play FFIX I'm sure you'll love that. Play Chrono Cross too, same people made it.

  • @yoyoyo88665 "hating" is something we all do don't tell me not to do it and once again..nobody is jealous of a game that uses sex to sell shit when this game didn't (get my point now?) and i beat chrono cross (we're talking about FF not all of square enix) and OF COURSE THEY"RE FOCUSING ON OTHER PROJECTS!! (/sarcasm) those other projects are making more ridiculous FF games to add to their lame franchise rather than giving the fans what they want a sequel to more of the single game titles.

  • @yoyoyo88665 But in all honestly i can live without it fuck FF. It's lame and its nothing but deception for you idiots who fail to see past visual and sexual propaganda. Every female in those monkey brained final fantasy games are nothing but attention grabbing sluts! THATS ALL! That's the only reason they're there if that game were all guys I PROMISE it wouldn't be as popular. Point being i just proved im not jealous by stating alot of true shit about the franchise now prove me wrong..

  • @AristaBomb Sorry but I'm still seeing that you're just jealous that Baten Kaitos is not as nearly as popular as FF. Look- I LOVE Baten Kaitos. I LOVE IT SO MUCH. It's one of my favorite games- but Final Fantasy is my favorite series. You can love BOTH. There's NO reason to hate FF. Saying the girls are nothing but "attention grabbing sluts" shows that you know nothing about FF and you're just being ridiculous because a majority of FF's have a GREAT cast. I'm telling you- start out with FFIX.

  • @yoyoyo88665 i know nothing of FF? Uh no, i know just about everything (from the surface) i'd rather not dig deeper into something that would have another guy fap till his arm gets heavier and bulkier than his body and again you missed my point (god it's like pulling teeth). Again for the last freaking time I'm NOT jealous of Popularity, I'm annoyed at how much sex they use to sell FF games! Baten kaitos using nice tits and pretty big fancy upskirt promos? I think not...

  • @yoyoyo88665 I don't care which game is more popular I hate the fact that girls in FF are being used to GET that popularity, in my book that's cheating and a cheap way to get nerds to buy their shit. Why is Baten Kaitos Underrated? Because it uses MATURITY and a GOOD IN DEPTH STORY to lure in customers! Now do you Freaking get my issue???? I don't give a crap about which one is more popular FF was even here before Baten Kaitos (props to that) but they used SEX TO SELL THATS why i don't like FF.

  • @yoyoyo88665 Baten Kaitos lured me in with beautiful graphics and top notch kick ass music AND gameplay. FF lured me in with Characters and CHARACTERS ONLY (such as sephiroth, Setzer, laguna, Cloud, Wakka etc) But guess what i know all of their histories and while reading em..I nearly dozed off, Sephiroth is the most interesting and heart grasping his mother n all. Point being i don't wanna play a game for just characters, i wanna play for much more and IMO FF plots are written by 3rd graders.

  • @AristaBomb Seems to me like you haven't played many FF games if you think FF plots are written by 3rd graders. Don't be ridiculous. FF games have wonderful visuals, amazing CG cutscenes, a great cast of characters, amazing soundtracks, long stories and they all have unique and wonderful worlds and mythology; and not one FF is the same, all of them are different with their world, story, lore, characters and gameplay. I'm telling you- stop being closed-minded and stop hating FF for stupid reasons

  • @yoyoyo88665 I can hate what i want. Ya know whats better than FF besides Baten Kaitos? Legend Of lagaia go youtube that. Oh btw "Wonderful visuals, amazing CG cutscenes"<--Ya know how much fucking money that costs? Baten Kaitos didn't need much to get my attention. So if i'm "Closed minded" how did i discover such an underated game and complete it despite the "low popularity". You just turned the tables on which on of us has a "close mind FF= Big pwetty lights, B.K= Play our game or move on

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  • @yoyoyo88665 FF is dying to pull people in thats why they incorporate all that bullshit to pull "CLOSE MINDED" fools like you in and keep your ass there like a fat kid in a candy store. Again who's more close minded when i play a game that doesn't have to f*cking trick you to play it. Some people FREAKING LOVE TIFA and when they bought the game guess what? They got no action so they went download the hentai. Baten Kaitos fed me like an old man in a nursing home for 2 weeks until i beat it.

  • @AristaBomb You're really ignorant aren't you? It doesn't TRICK YOU. If a franchise managed to pull over 5 million people into it THERE MUST BE A REASON. Why can't you understand that? I LOVE BATEN KAITOS TOO- it's one of the most original games I've EVER played and I LOVE it SO much- but I love FF too. You can love BOTH BK and FF WITHOUT being butthurt about FF's popularity. In fact if it wasn't for FF I'd have never been interested in BK. Stop being ignorant. FF is a great franchise. Try some.

  • @yoyoyo88665 "ignorant" sigh* is that all you can use even though it doesn't fit in this conversation or is that all you know how to say?. Why can't i understand what? How stupid people are? Dude another game that's more popular than that is MEGAMAN. I'm a Die hard fan of megaman and MORE people know him WAY better than FF and guess what it used NO women to sell any games. That shit's just fun and YES megaman has some RPG titles. Just shut the hell up you're the ignorant one here.

  • @yoyoyo88665 and you keep saying the same shit over and over again, "stop being ignorant" "try some" you sound like a fucking zombie slave to the game. You're the one who needs to grow up and respect other people's opinions and not try to shove a nerdy ass life wasting game such as FF for the last TIME I HATE IT, FUCK IT. Call me what you want. I guess everyone who doesn't like the game is ignorant too huh? lmfao you dunno how bad you contradict yourself. You sir are a moron. I'm done with you.

  • @AristaBomb Yes he is a Moron, dude don't waste your time with a pussy whipped fan of FF. He's obviously rock hard about tifa, Yuna and all those other skanks. He's lost in the game m8 and i read most of your quarrel here, he makes some good points but he only proves that people are idiots wasting their time on a franchise that cares only nothing about money. Baten kaitos has 2 games thats all not fucking 14-16. He's obviously ignorant and can't respect other people's Opinions. He's a weak cunt

  • @Kaahi812 LOL, i hear ya. I hate kids like that he's like a broken record "try it man" and he's like one of those anime freaks he says something and doesn't even back up his statements. I doubt he even knows what ignorant means. But yeah i give up he's too lost in a faggot franchise such as FF. Megaman beats it all the way.

  • @AristaBomb You haven't even PLAYED THEM to judge them. Or maybe you played one or two. Every FF is different. You're the fucking idiot for missing out on an amazing series because you're a fucking immature closed-minded jealous retard who will get nowhere in life because of your fucked up mentality of "OOH IT'S MORE POPULAR I MUST HATE IT!" so go ahead and be an idiot and miss out on an amazing series because you're a jealous freak. Being a jealous retard will get you nowhere, kid. Bye now.

  • @yoyoyo88665 Kind of the problem, I saw a few FFs and they were rather much alike. The branched off series of Tactics were nice, but the originals? Not so much a fan. I suppose there's a lack of creativity/originality that makes the series rather... general. Baten Kaitos had a unique touch and atmosphere. There was a serene beauty and solemn dread all through every single location. It's something which FF lacked.

    Either way, Baten Kaitos was an amazing game. And this musical piece is excellent.

  • @Firellius No actually, every FF is completely different. You have to actually beat and play a few to see. FFXII and XIII for example, are completely different in EVERY WAY. The only thing they all have in common are high production values and some mascot creatures that are in every FF. I love Baten Kaitos and there's no reason to hate FF. I find that a lot of diehard fans of lesser known JRPG's tend to hate FF just because it's popular.

  • @AristaBomb oh and Mr. Katy Perry ( why the fuck would you listen to that women's bullsh*T music) after i beat Kaitos. I went on to ANOTHER FRANCHISE called Tales of Symphonia and so on. I played alot of FF believe it or not and laughed my ass off at the lame plots for the last time fuck FF its gay and i hate it shut the fuck up and quit trying to change my mind about it.

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  • Malpercio? Bitch doesn't know about my Wheel of Light.

  • Better than all the shitty final fantasy games. Just this one single hit under rated game beats Faggot Fan--I mean final fantasy

  • @AristaBomb mh, I'm also disliking many Final Fantasy games. I don't know why, but for the most FF games I never became an awesome feeling. :/ I don't think they're bad, maybe it has to do something with the style...

    Actually, I'm liking Baten Kaitos Origins more, BUT the first game is also very epic. :)

  • The Dark Brethren's price was paid. What was done for good was turned to evil, and the world nearly fell into darkness because of it. Yet even at the end of it all, they stood tall one last time and caught the islands during their plummet to the lands below.

  • What is the timing of this song? Like....5/8 or something?

  • Bitches don't know about the fact that FFX is the best FF game by far.

  • @Quaxelbaby Oh, I get it. It's opposite day! By "best" you mean "most shit," right?

    But even then, you'd be wrong. Final Fantasy XIII took that crown away from it, so Final Fantasy X is only "second most shit" FF game.

  • @IronWyvern Boy, I don't think I've ever seen anyone fail so hard in an attempt to be witty.

  • @Quaxelbaby Silly! There was only truth in my comment. Although I admit, Final Fantasy XIII is tied with Final Fantasy VIII for "most shit" FF game. Which would make Final Fantasy X "third most shit" FF game.

    I apologize for my mistake.

  • @Quaxelbaby The first six Final Fantasies, as well as IX, XII, and a great many spinoffs would all like a word with you.

  • @Quaxelbaby while ffx is a good game anyone who says ffx is the best hasnt been a final fantasy fan since their early stuff. the majority of long time fans say 6 or snes 3 is the best and im one of them xD

  • @ashofoblivion so true the best work they ever dude was 5,6, and 7 and 3

  • @Quaxelbaby You are wrong sir. It may be your favorite one, but the best? No. (Its still a great game)

  • @Quaxelbaby ... caant honor tha good old FF times... VI (usa./j. ffIII) VII, VIII, iX where so much better than ffX... X was the first of them i didn´t finished...

  • this music fits perfectly to malpercio! i just love the strings at 1:28!

  • definitely best theme i hae ever heard

  • The best final boss will forever be Wiseman. Geldoblame can kiss my ass.

  • This song makes me want to finally finish Origins!

  • holy fuck thats such wicked battle music

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  • gorgeous! :D

  • I loved the Malpercio of the original Baten Kaitos. While I enjoyed playing the prequel that they made later - it was humorous and light and fun to play, of course with great music - I did not much like what they did with Malpercio. It seemed like it was an idea thrown together last minute. Has anyone else played it and does anyone else agree?

  • SPOILER!!!!!!!!!! SPOILER!!!!!!!

    @Kyuuketsuki111: I loved the fact that the god of demise and destruction, the most feared being of all time ended up being 5 extremely good hearted people who decided to form a pact with darkness in order to save their world, I loved it how the creators were able to make those really subtle shifts between good and evil and I think that a lot of effort went into those little detail leaving you doubt 'good'

    SPOILER!!!!!!!!!  SPOILER!!!!!!!!!

  • @ripley4O77 In a way, it DOES fit in with the established story of the first game; remember, Melodia is Malpercio's curse, and Kalas is his prayer. Malpercio wasn't pure evil; he was just incapable of directly causing anything but evil, and I think that he hated himself for it.

  • @Kyuuketsuki111

    I'd have to agree with ripley, personally. Malpercio was always a bit of a confusing subject, seeing as

    SPOILER

    It was originally believed to be one god, but it was in reality five gods together.

    SPOILER

    Still, both stories were very well done. I didn't really like Origins' story the first time through, but playing through both (Wings first, then Origins) really gives you an insight into an interesting and mysterious world.

  • @Kyuuketsuki111 i didn't like the idea at 1st but after a 2nd run, it grew on me. You have to look at it from the historys view. the fact that malpercio was something OTHER than what was thought is a major plot twist that literally spans both games. Malpercio was a rebellion that lost, and since history is written by the victors, they're going to be called as a calamity to life. They're the perfect excuse for explaining why the lands float. Now granted there r discontinuity errors between games

  • 1:08 to 1:28 sounds something from like a classic JRPG. 1990's or something. Really nice.

  • This song made me and my Friend fear Malpercio. (but mostly him)

  • That's what they all say!

  • No really, at first he was just creepy, but this song just put the icing on the cake.

  • Blame a certain young lady... whose a bit creepy herself.

  • It's a good battle theme, but I don't find it the best battle theme of the game. 1:08 - 1:28 is my favourite part.

    This isn't my favourite theme because it really doesn't sound very special in my ears; like I've heard similar songs before. Nevertheless, it still gives an epic feeling when you're in a battle ^^

  • High quality just got a whole lot cooler with this video.

  • I keep looking at the picture on this vid, and I keep thinking that the man in the top left corner is Wakka from FF10, but it really Gibari. I think they look quite a bit alike.

  • Thankfully, that's where the similarities end.

  • I was confused for awhile TBH, until I played FFIX just last month after only seeing a demo of FFIX 5 years ago.

  • @BottledFun dont forget the selda series too

  • @BottledFun Wakka and Gibari are a lot alike.

    Only difference was Wakka was religious to a fault.

  • @BottledFun Don't compare such a game to FFX FFX wasn't that good a good FF game is FFIX and that's about the same rank as this

  • one of the best games for the GCN, and definitely top 3 for a third-party game.

    in no order:

    1. SSBM

    2. Zelda: Wind Waker

    3. MP

    4. MKDD

    5. Baten Kaitos

  • mkdd?

  • mario kart double dash. created a whole new twist to kart racing from the 64 version.

  • ugh, I hated Double dash. levels were too easy, and music was lame. I'll say one good thing about it, and that was that I liked the battle maps.

  • Don't forget about Tales of Symphonia.

  • This game is almost perfect. The story, the characters, the music, the places...

    Baten Kaitos and Tales of Symphonia are the best RPG ever made

  • I'm really skeptical that you could say that unless all you've played are gamecube rpgs.

  • Really aren't a whole lot of them

    Tales of Symphonia, Baten Kaitoses, Skies of Arcadia. That's about it?

  • Evolution Worlds, The Legend of Zelda WW/Twilight Princess, Paper Mario The Thousand Year Old Door, Fire Emblem Path of Radiance, and Lost Kingdoms 1 & 2 and of course Batan Kaitos Origins.

  • @suiriryoku I agree with him, though at the time of its release you could've considered it a perfect game. Nowadays it's been surpassed, sure. Though you do have to admit, the level of amazing Namco pulled off with the graphics alone for this game compared to what the GC usually got gave it a hand at being considered perfect.

  • @suiriryoku They are two of the best, I think. Top Twenty at least.

  • @elquetodolosabeyve ya on the gamecube yes there the greatest RPG's but on PC it goes to Neverwinter Nights, and Morrowind, 360 has Blue Dragon, and well Wii's got Muramasa the Demon Blade

  • @elquetodolosabeyve

    "Baten Kaitos and Tales of Symphonia are the best RPG ever made"

    ...No.

  • @elquetodolosabeyve i agree completely.those r my two favrit rpgs too

  • @elquetodolosabeyve No. Baten Kaitos was great, but for example Chrono Trigger was clearly better.

  • @elquetodolosabeyve I,m deacuerdo cont`igo

  • I really wish SO4 had an awesome soundtrack as Baten Kaitos! When the composer makes a bland generic soundtrack, its really frustrating when you know what he's capable of.

  • Very nice, (b^_^)b

  • This is definitely one of the best games I've ever played. I think I beat it like 3 times...maybe 4...You know, during the first play-through, I never realized that you couldn't use opposing elements in the same hand? Until THE last battle? Made the whole game tough the first time, but I'm like expert now XD.

  • If this isn't the battle theme for the last boss, it should be. (dont ask me, I haven't played the first Baten, only Origins.) EPIC WIN!!!

  • the real final battle theme is pretty kickass too (violent storm)

    but I agree, this is the best battle theme in the game.

  • @ssjSephirothhiei trust me. the real final boss theme is actually more epic

  • BEST BATTLE SONG EVER

  • I find that Lyude's finishers particularily go well with this battle theme. Maybe because they are all related to music and this piece is so orchestrated?

  • I totally agree on this one.

  • in part 2 the final boss was sooo easy but the one before it was pretty hard

  • this IS a good song. I really didn't care for it back when I played the game, but now that I'm actually listening to it...it is a work of art.

  • in my opinion the best battle theme ever,or one of the bests anyway,only compared to the crossel's fight music which appeared before by meeting albel in star ocean 3

  • I loved this song while playing the game.

    The boss was easy but it gave the game a little more touch with this song.

    Awesome song.

  • this music is so sweet, I forgot it was in this game.

  • Musique très entraînante dont j'ne me lasse d'écouter !

    Motoi sakuraba est un génie ^^

  • Epique à en chialer...

  • Don't mean to be start anything, but this song is actually called "Ruler of the Nine Skies"

    Don't get me wrong, this song kicks ass.

  • Ruler of the Nine Skies is the American name.  This is the japanese title.

  • This is Sakuraba´s best

  • Im gonna get these games again... xD darn there good.

  • Sweeeeet.

  • great

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