i think this song was not the best pick at the turkish national final. you should definitely check the song "1945" out. though its music, orchestration, and performance were outstanding, the jury failed that song because of the political implications in its lyrics -which was actually condemning the use of atomic bomb. eventually a mediocre song won the national final.
Actually, if I had to pick my all-time favorite Turkish entry, I'd go for 1997's "Dinle", a truly fabulous song and performance. But then Turkey has a lot of great entries, IMO (and quite a few underrated ones), incl. this one, and also 1981, 1986 (totally agree with you on "Halley"!), 1990, 1996, 2004... and this year's entry was also truly exceptional!
All very good songs you mentioned. I think I'm biased towards older stuff a little bit. Nostalgia or something like that :) I'm glad you mentioned 1990, it still makes it into my playlist very often.
tasosk3, it's so strange. one of my most favourite entries of all times is also 1997...but oddly enough it's the Greek entry.
Everytime I listened to Horepse I kind of get angry that very few people other than me appreciate that soft, subtle melody. The majority likes drums and big shows and ass-shaking and stuff in the esc I guess.
It's sad...for me it's far far better than "Dinle" or any other promiscious esc entries Turkey and Greece tend to send year-in, year-out lately.
Though I'm not with you on "Dinle", I agree with you on the rest. Indeed, "Horepse" is possibly the most underrated Greek entry ever (it barely gets a mention even from Greek ESC fans), which is truly a shame. I've long advocated it for it as one of my favorite Greek entries ever.
This is more interesting, especially the accompainment in the verse which give more logic to the melodic line. They could have kept the refrain though but still a better version I think.
Yes this is a great arrangement and i downloaded this version a while back.I do like the ESC performance as well ,but reckon the studio version is better.
Wow, thanks a lot for that! It goes beyond differing arrangements - this sounds like a completely different song! On the night, "Halay" sounded more jazzy, and it still sounds great. But this... this is more a beautiful, musical mindscape; I especially LOVE the loud sitar-ic instrumental break. Imaginative indeed! One of the few times when I like the studio version better - and the only time when a whole CHORUS was added afterwards, as far as I know!
Very glad you like it - and totally agree with everything you say! Personally, I first learned this one from the studio version, so when I saw the live performance (which I'd describe more as "light disco' myself), I must admit I was quite disappoint. I like it more now, but I still don't think it compares to this version.
Still I can sort of understand why it was changed, as I can't imagine how the orchestra in Luxemburg could have made the song sound this way on the night.
That's true - esp. since I think (though not sure about that) that the EBU didn't allow any hints of pre-recorded music back then. It's kind of the same problem that Spain and Belgium had the previous year, how to adapt their un-typical entries so that they can be accompanied by orchestra. Btw, I'm thinking of posting more such studio versions that deviated wildly from the live performances, and if I do it, nul-pointers Remedios Amaya and Jahn Teigen are on the top of my list.
Your points on Remedios Amaya's orchestra are very true, but I disagree on "Rendez-vous", as the orchestra really lifted that one off. I'd find Spain's entry ten years later a much better example in the 'desperately-trying' orchestra category. Also staying tuned for more studio versions. ;)
I've changed my mind on "Rendez-vous" since I had last commented on the orchestra, and I now agree with you that it adds very much to the song - esp. the part where the beat breaks down leaving only the horn section is absolutely arousing!
If anyone is interested, the group's name "Beş Yıl Önce, On Yıl Sonra" means "Five Years Ago, Ten Years Later" when translated to English. :)
thirtymphs 3 months ago
I would love too have the instrumental version of this! The music and arrangement is simply beautiful.
Relias 1 year ago
wow i liked this version much better than the one they performed on the stage
cvetzjuga 1 year ago
I don´t like this version
karlssonjlam 2 years ago
i think this song was not the best pick at the turkish national final. you should definitely check the song "1945" out. though its music, orchestration, and performance were outstanding, the jury failed that song because of the political implications in its lyrics -which was actually condemning the use of atomic bomb. eventually a mediocre song won the national final.
escturk 2 years ago
Thank you for uploading this video Tasosk3!
golibicek 3 years ago
You're welcome!
tasosk3 3 years ago
Thanks for this post, I agree that it is waaay better than the actual performance. It has the folkish quality that is missing from the performance.
Regarding your comment for this song, I think the best Turkish entries were 1975 (seninle bir dakika) and 1986 (halley).
Long live the Eurovision!
dburak 3 years ago
Actually, if I had to pick my all-time favorite Turkish entry, I'd go for 1997's "Dinle", a truly fabulous song and performance. But then Turkey has a lot of great entries, IMO (and quite a few underrated ones), incl. this one, and also 1981, 1986 (totally agree with you on "Halley"!), 1990, 1996, 2004... and this year's entry was also truly exceptional!
tasosk3 3 years ago
All very good songs you mentioned. I think I'm biased towards older stuff a little bit. Nostalgia or something like that :) I'm glad you mentioned 1990, it still makes it into my playlist very often.
dburak 3 years ago
tasosk3, it's so strange. one of my most favourite entries of all times is also 1997...but oddly enough it's the Greek entry.
Everytime I listened to Horepse I kind of get angry that very few people other than me appreciate that soft, subtle melody. The majority likes drums and big shows and ass-shaking and stuff in the esc I guess.
It's sad...for me it's far far better than "Dinle" or any other promiscious esc entries Turkey and Greece tend to send year-in, year-out lately.
Istanbul1981 3 years ago
Though I'm not with you on "Dinle", I agree with you on the rest. Indeed, "Horepse" is possibly the most underrated Greek entry ever (it barely gets a mention even from Greek ESC fans), which is truly a shame. I've long advocated it for it as one of my favorite Greek entries ever.
tasosk3 3 years ago
oh, my most favourite Turkish entry...Opera of course;)
Istanbul1981 3 years ago
Oh, yes, indeed. And my favorite Greek entry is "Clown", naturally :-P
tasosk3 3 years ago
This is more interesting, especially the accompainment in the verse which give more logic to the melodic line. They could have kept the refrain though but still a better version I think.
Thanks from Norway
sigurdur76 3 years ago
Tasosk3 thanks for this video.excellent version.
serkan1941 4 years ago
You're welcome, my friend. I love it too, and that's I'm glad everyone here seems to share my affection towards this version.
tasosk3 4 years ago
Eurovision 2004 in Istanbul was the best show ever
MANIABRIT 4 years ago
The set in 2004 was spectacular indeed as was the whole production. However, as for the songs, I only found very few to stand out.
setheurovision94 4 years ago
Yes this is a great arrangement and i downloaded this version a while back.I do like the ESC performance as well ,but reckon the studio version is better.
RMENZ 4 years ago
Wow, thanks a lot for that! It goes beyond differing arrangements - this sounds like a completely different song! On the night, "Halay" sounded more jazzy, and it still sounds great. But this... this is more a beautiful, musical mindscape; I especially LOVE the loud sitar-ic instrumental break. Imaginative indeed! One of the few times when I like the studio version better - and the only time when a whole CHORUS was added afterwards, as far as I know!
setheurovision94 4 years ago
Very glad you like it - and totally agree with everything you say! Personally, I first learned this one from the studio version, so when I saw the live performance (which I'd describe more as "light disco' myself), I must admit I was quite disappoint. I like it more now, but I still don't think it compares to this version.
tasosk3 4 years ago
Still I can sort of understand why it was changed, as I can't imagine how the orchestra in Luxemburg could have made the song sound this way on the night.
setheurovision94 4 years ago
That's true - esp. since I think (though not sure about that) that the EBU didn't allow any hints of pre-recorded music back then. It's kind of the same problem that Spain and Belgium had the previous year, how to adapt their un-typical entries so that they can be accompanied by orchestra. Btw, I'm thinking of posting more such studio versions that deviated wildly from the live performances, and if I do it, nul-pointers Remedios Amaya and Jahn Teigen are on the top of my list.
tasosk3 4 years ago
Your points on Remedios Amaya's orchestra are very true, but I disagree on "Rendez-vous", as the orchestra really lifted that one off. I'd find Spain's entry ten years later a much better example in the 'desperately-trying' orchestra category. Also staying tuned for more studio versions. ;)
setheurovision94 4 years ago
I've changed my mind on "Rendez-vous" since I had last commented on the orchestra, and I now agree with you that it adds very much to the song - esp. the part where the beat breaks down leaving only the horn section is absolutely arousing!
tasosk3 4 years ago