Mormons have everything to do With Texas Polygamy Sect

[ldsblondechick22]

my my my you are so lost (testskriftene) unless you are an lds...you dont exactly understand all of the doctrine in our church.

[testskriftene]

What is wrong? Can you tell me the truth?

[ldsblondechick22]

this makes me very sad. sad of how uneducated you really are. the church of jesus christ of latter day saints does not support polygamy in any way whatsoever. and you are completly right, u have absolutly no proof of it! you can ask any active lds person if we support polygamy, and do you honestly thing that if we did so many people would deny it? no! you will be accountable for the things you have said about the lords church! let the lord be the judge and not you.

[testskriftene]

As Joseph Smith had over 30 wives, some of them teen... the FLDS church originate and are more like the original mormonism than LDS....

D&C 132 is still scripture... And a man can be sealed to more than one woman... (his first sealed wife dies, and marries and seales another...) Jesus said that there will be no marriage in heaven.... - find it :-)

Have you been born again? If you die tonight, would you live with God?

God bless

[highly]

the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints DO NOT believe in polygamy. if you were a part of the church, you'd know why. we have to live by the laws of the land. yes, polygamy was practiced in th late 1800s in order to "multiply and replenish the earth." that law was taken off the earth by heavenly father and people today who still practice it DO NOT live under the church of jesus christ of later day saints. think about, bible prophets had many wives. it was acceptable during their time.

[mitsupitsu44]

mormons have NOTHING to do with polygame, and you will be hold accountable to the Lord for your false accusations.

[testskriftene]

Hmm... the doctrine of polygamy has not changed.. they just dont practice it here on earth right now.. but in their temples.. If Gordon B, after his wife died, wanted to marry and sealed in the temple, he would have two wives in heaven... so the teaching is there, but just not the lifestyle here on earth

[hypnotstcollector]

The BofM has over 4000 changes. Yet the Polygamy revelation stands unchanged. it is viral and waiting. It Pronounces death on his wife,it nullifies all non mormon marriages and contracts while Simultaineously exalting Mormonism. Many think polygamy is some personal choice thing and it means what ever it means in their vague mind. Mormon Polygamy means just exactly what it says. It directly caused the Mountain Meadows Massacre. as did the Endowement ceremony and Blood Atonement Doctrine.

[patnlomz]

It is sad to me that for someone who seems to be trying to spread the word of the Lord you come across as agressive and really someone who speaks of something he doesnt know about or understand. Just leave the Mormons and JW's alone. Be positive in your life and you will be a positive influence on those who surround you. Mormons or JWs arent harming anybody. The Lord our God will be the judge leave that to him dont go doing the judging yourself you have no authority. Love one another !

[testskriftene]

How are we judging you? We try to witness to mormons (showing the Biblical message vs LDS message) (and bring up historical facts)... You should look at the LDS church before you say we are doing a evil deed.. what are the mormon missionaries doing?

[patnlomz]

Some of us still practise piligamy. In my husbands dreams. Im glad you said and I quote "i have no proof" cause you dont but you said it anyway. And lets talk about mormon missionaries. They go out at the age that the rest of the world the same age is partying up hard and doing what not and they go out to totally strang country where they most likely know no one they sacrifice 2 years of their prime life to serve the Lord and spread the gospel which is more than I can say you are doing my friend

[testskriftene]

They go around saying they are the only true church on the face of the earth.... Does not that stand testing? We share the biblical message here, not for people to become a member of a church, but to the body of Christ - believers of Him..

Have you been born again? If you die tonight, would you live with God?

God bless

[yellowknifeandfork]

I know this is off topic, but, does the LDS use the exact same version of the Holy Bible that the christians use, or is it an edited version such as the one that the JW's use? Do mormon's not view the Holy Bible as the work of God as well?

[testskriftene]

They do, but they only trust it "as far as it is translated correctly"... But they still think it is the word of God. The JW use a false translation

[patnlomz]

We believe in the Bible the Kings James version is the most correct translated version. We most certainly view the Holy Bible as the work of the Lord. THe bible goes hand in hand with The Book OF Mormon another testament of Jesus Christ. Contrary to what everyone believes the book of mormon does not go against anything in the bible but simply supports it. You should read it and find out yourself. I did and converted a few years ago, I didnt ask anyone but the Lord himself in prayer and its true!

[testskriftene]

I also see that the Book of mormon does teach biblical doctrine (except a few, depending on what version you are reading...), but the LDS church teaches anti-Biblical doctrine.. You should also remember that the RLDS, FLDS and over 100 other religions that claim to follow Joseph Smith use the book of mormon to make people join them...

[leSavaii]

YOU: I think God speaks trough servants - YES. But it must be tested according to the word of God - The Bible.

Who will do this your so called judging/testing? God himself or the opinionated protestant-servants & readers of the Holy Bible? Christians contradict themselves with the Word of God, like polygamy, 'cause they do not believe in today's Living Prophets, like: Pres. Thomas S.Monson of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

[testskriftene]

Believers will test the prophecy according to Gods word. Is Thomas S. Monson the only true prophet here on earth?

[leSavaii]

Believers & not God our Creator will do the judging? What is wrong with you people? Can't you see...? that you're going against what your own Holy Bible is dictating?

Pres. Thomas S. Monson is the only living prophet today in the whole world, chosen of God to speak, lead & direct His Church on his behalf period. He is not perfect. He is human, but God chose & blessed him to be his mouthpiece among both the believers & the unbelievers.

[testskriftene]

Finally, this is what I wanted you to say - because your believe here, is contrary to what the Bible say. First of all, as you have mentioned before - you said there where only ONE prophet in OT. That is wrong, there where more at times. There where even FEMALE prophets - unlike the LDS... And you should read 1 cor 14. Study it. It explains the CHRISTIAN sense - there are many prophets in the body of Christ. If you dont read the whole chapter, read verse 29. God bless

[testskriftene]

Many christian prophets - but it does not have the same authority as in OT, because christians shall judge according to Gods word

[leSavaii]

And what authority is that, that they don't have? Are you talking about the Priesthood authority? If thats the case, then you should also silence yourself like the women in the church as Paul stated to the Corinthians.

[testskriftene]

No priesthood authority - we are given authority by God when we become born again - Read John 1, 12.. given the right ( another word for given authority in greek). There are female prophets in NT too... "Not the same authority as OT", is that we shall not follow what the prophet says blindly - because in NT - we are supposed to test it, all of it

[leSavaii]

Now you are spinning: There is a huge difference between what Ive stated & what youve just posted

ME: If I recall correctly, God had chosen one prophet at the time as he has today since the OT days.

YOU: "as you have mentioned before - you said there where only ONE prophet in OT"

Female prophets? You've got to read further down to VS:34. Show me where in the Bible that God put more than one prophet on earth at the same time. There a many believers, not prophets in the body of Christ

[testskriftene]

Sorry, that came out wrong, you mean there are only one ptophet at the time, correct?... More than one prophet at the same time in OT are many... Hosea year 760-720 + Amos 760. Isaiah 739-685 + Mika 737-690. Jeremaia 627-580 + Habakuk 609 + Daniel 605-530 + Ezekiel 593-570. There are more... I dont know all the english names for the prophets, but I hope they are simmilar from Norwegian... Female prophets: Exd 15:20, Jdg 4:4, 2Ki 22:14, Neh 6:14, Luk 2:36, ACTS 21, 9 (!)..

[leSavaii]

For crying out loud, you're exactly right! its all started from Joseph Smith, (sure, how about Abraham, Jacob, etc?) "BUT" God gives & takes when he knows the people are simply not ready. So whats the fuss all about? Is it because God doesn't talk directly to you, but to his chosen servants, the prophets? There are people that listen & obey God, and there are also people that simply don't want to listen & obey God and His prophets & thats simply the case with protestants (religious-sects: UTLM)

[testskriftene]

is there only one prophet on earth?

[leSavaii]

If I recall correctly, God had chosen one prophet at the time as he has today since the OT days.

Do you think God is once again talking to us thru his servants, the prophets?

[testskriftene]

answer my Q. Is there only one prophet on earth?

[leSavaii]

Why? Does the Truth hurt? I have anwered your's, and whats your respond to mine?

[testskriftene]

Do you confirm that there is only ONE prophet on earth? After I know your answer to that, I´l move on

[leSavaii]

You're still ignoring my question & by all means, if you like to move along without responding to it, then you know what that means....?

[testskriftene]

I would like to answer your Q, but I would like to know your stance on it... I think God speaks trough servants - YES. But it must be tested according to the word of God - The Bible. If anything does not mach that - throw the false prophet away

[bsl103158]

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT- this is just another heinous , predictable result of Joseph Smith's heartless, shameless, blasphemous teachings. He remains one of the world's greatest lechers and charlatans.KEEP GOING, BROTHER!!!! YOU ARE RIGHT ON, and I for one am very supportive of your show and determination to broadcast the exact thing everyone needs to hear. Everyone that keeps trying to reason with those ensnared by Mormonism in anyway has my full support.

[testskriftene]

OT sinful practice. Jesus restored marriage as it was supposed to be.."You have had 5 men , and the one you have now is not your own..."... Never commanded by God, or liked

[jasonkyle111]

"OT sinful practice" Jehovah, Jesus, was there the whole time. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob were receiving revelation from him daily and were very obedient. Don't you think that if he didn't approve of what they were doing he would have let them know? They did what he commanded them to do.

[testskriftene]

God never commanded people to marry more than one woman.. God only warns them, that they should not take more than one wife... etc..

[jasonkyle111]

This guy is not informed to make any comment. The Bible is filled with polygamy. Nobody can dispute it. Joseph Smith was the man!He was a true prophet and a very good person.D+C 132 is scripture. The FLDS have just perverted his teachings.

[testskriftene]

The FLDS are just doing what Joseph Smith did, who you call a good guy and a prophet of God...

[williamyounkin]

If he were to look through the bible that is on his desk, he would see that polygamy is practiced in it.

[testskriftene]

never commanded by God... as the early mormon men say they where. God does not like polygamy... Unlike some early mormon men...

[williamyounkin]

God accepted the practice of plural marraige by the prophets of the Old Testament. He even spoke directly to them about it (2 Samuel 12:8, Exodus 21:10) In 2 Chronicles 24, it says that Jehoida did that which was right in the sight of the Lord and then it says that he had two wives (v. 2-3). Unless God has changed his mind or the Bible is incorrect, it is really difficult to say that God hates polygamy.

[testskriftene]

Jesus re-established the marriage as it was supposed to be in Eden... Read Jesus´ own words - man leave his parents to be with his wife - not wives. one man, one woman. And early LDS men practiced polyandry, they took other mens wives. They lived in polyandry and polygamy (You shall not take another mans wife...) They lived in sin (Remember the women at the well ". and the man that you now have is not your own"). Read 1 John 3. Jesus´ words goes to all early LDS members in polyandry and polygamy

[williamyounkin]

Jesus did not emphasize "one woman" in the scriptures, he simply did not pluralize the word wife. Once again, it seems difficult for Christians to make the argument against polygamy when it is practiced so consistently in the Bible. Certainly, if God wanted Abraham to stop practicing polygamy he would have said something to him. I just think it is ironic that other Christians criticize the Mormon practice of polygamy when it is has been practiced by the prophets they honor.

[leSavaii]

Was God as guilty as Jacob then? If God knew that having four wivies was wrong, why didn't He stop Jacob?...........but look at the outcome from not stopping Jacob, the 12.tribes of Israel and was probably the main reason. The same case in our days, but God saw men who were former members of other churches became mormons only to harvest to themselves several wivies, but was that what God had in mind? (Isa.55:7-9)

[leSavaii]

How about the men mentioned in your Bible? Did God really let these men live a lie? 9/11, USA almost brought to her knees by the people she welcomed & accepted to live & enjoy our freedom...and so as the LDS.Church. There were people that came into the Church with high opinions & beliefs from their previous faiths & didn't want to let go of them, and most of these opinions & beliefs did contradict the doctrines of the Restored Church of Jesus Christ & tried to hurt the Church fom inside out.

[testskriftene]

is there only one prophet on earth?

[raqueliza]

we "spiritually practice polygamy"? what? what does that mean? Are you for real? Do you have any Mormon friends? Wow...you need to talk to someone who actually is Mormon instead of listening to hearsay

[testskriftene]

Some mormon men believe that they will have more than one wife in heaven... they have one wife - seal in temple.. she dies.. marries another one... seals in temple... spiritual polygamy..

[imikewillrockyou]

You know I'm no defender of the FLDS faith. However, I do defend their right to practice their own religion. Kidnapping those kids with the intent of breaking up that religion is against the highest law of our land. It's actually frightening, if the authorities can treat these people that way then we are all in danger. After all that the CPS couldn't produce a single abused child for the courts. NOT EVEN ONE!

[marathoncarlos]

Homos attacking polygamists!!!!

[testskriftene]

? Are you LDS?

[marathoncarlos]

No, I am not mormon. I Think I made my point. I don't need to ask you more questions.

You should enjoy life and go pick up some flowers, or move to California were homosexuals can legally get married.

[testskriftene]

Its actually starting to be legal in Norway to... as terrible as it is,...

[Tifa2001ca]

How about hunger, war, materialism, corruption, violence, abuse of children, lack of social funding. ect... I could go on and on... it is not religion that corrupts it is people that corrupt religion.

[Tifa2001ca]

You call LDS a cult but what is wrong with wanting to raise your children with morals and values. I never understood this until I was older. So we were taught be be contributing members of society and to treat people as we would want to be treated. Calling a LDS a FLDS is like calling a Anglican a Catholic. They are similar in many ways but also different in other. I think people need to stop fighting over religion and focus on the real issues of the world.

[JTownSmith]

isnt religion a real issue with the world?

[Tifa2001ca]

There are fundamentalist in all religions instead of making your ignorant comments how about you go and find the facts. I was born into an LDS family and practiced the religion until I was 16. never during any of this time was polygamy promoted.Brimgham Young put it in affect after the saints crossed the plains and many wives lost their husbands. Polygamy was put into affect and was abolished when there was no need for it. I do not agree with it but get the facts before you comment.

[testskriftene]

Joseph Smith married 33 women - 10 of them where already married - taking other mens wives is adultery. Adultery is sin. The Bible tells that those who live in sin dont know Jesus - 1. John 3

[kasdri]

What you say is so true .

I know that Bringham Young who is revered to all the mormons , and even Joseph Smith who both looked as polygamy as "the proper way of living" and practicing polygamy.

An interesting fact you will not hear from the LDS .The LDS will just change thier doctrine once again .

You are correct when you say that the FLDS is the true face of mormonism.