hinduism..its a great religion ......it explains about the whole life of the earth and universe.....universe started with hinduism...and ends with it...the time, things,other religions and others criteria between these starting and ending is temporary.....finally all converges to one form..... hinduism exists if universe exists....finally hinduism means (the phenomenon of birth,death,survival,worship..etc)
this vedio shows the inter relationship between hindus and muslims....muslims praise allah(god.....)...and hindus praises the only god in the form of (god nd godess..... )names of (siva..durga),(hari,lakshmi) etc....names are different but the final destnation goes only one god......hiduism is the old and only religion ...othher religions are followers like branches of hinduism...the main root is hinduism....
@forgottenmemories63 : You are probably right! Neither Islam originated in Hinduism, nor Hinduism in any other religion. All religions came from God to blessed individuals among every nation. This phenomenon was repeated by God all over the world, and this is why all peoples on earth have a notion of God today, whether they are highly civilised or tribal, sedentary or nomadic. No nation was singled out by God. He spoke to every nation in different eras. He loves all nations.
@souro19 : Hinduism is an old religion, but human beings have been around for over a million years. None of the religions known to man are older than 6500 years.
In my opinion, these discussions are positive, as they allow everyone to re-evaluate their own beliefs and to measure them by the yardstick of rationality and reality. Many paths may lead to one city, but if one person says: It is a city; another person says: It is a bus; another says: It is a mountain; then each one will have to put forward reasons and proofs why their declaration is true. They cannot all be reasonable statements, however appealing to their protagonists. Beliefs require proof.
these discussions will lead to nothing. to any hindu or muslim, you know your religion, you belief it is true, you belief it will lead to right direction, then simply walk on your path to god. the more you will see other paths the more you will deviate from your's. instead go deep in your own scriptures, not to grasp how my religion is best but to know the path to be good human being. even if one is atheist but nice human, i praise him. disbelief is better than hatred. peace.
@amit101ranjan : I do not wish to criticise your manners of worship. Just picking up on your reasoning here, one may wonder whether the cow, an animal worshipped and revered in India, only gives and gives. Cows roaming free create havoc in open markets in India, road accidents, traffic jams, spread filth in their dung all over cities and towns, every single day in India. They do not just offer milk. They also do a lot of damage. Yet, they're considered worshippable. All worship should be to God.
@Peace4everynation for thousands of years hindus are worshiping cow, but never get caught in traffic jams, or any other problem. this time if people are facing problem then for this people are responsible who own them and let them roam free on roads. this is problem of nagarpaika. we don't need to look back in scriptures for it. they are subject to be kept in goshalas. that is what the system. ipeople are themselves using nature against themselves, what will religion do in it.
@peace4everynation : so when god himself finished any doubt about color in hindu religion, how can it be a place of thinking in people's mind concerning religion? no way. it's false argument.
@peace4everynation : i know u still doubt in my explanations, so last thing about colour. if you think hindu religion ever mentioned something about colour, it was this- lord rama choosed for him a dark color in human form. lord krishna, "krishna" means black. and they were described the most beautiful faces, whom one could see and always want to see.one of the reason to love for god was given his face and the face has color black. (may be because the color of universe is black that's my opinion
@amit101ranjan : I am aware that Krishna was black even though he is usually depicted as being blue. My point, which you seem not to be grasping, is: How can God decide to manifest Himself in Krishna as a black man? Why not as a yellow man? Why not as a brown man? How can God decide to manifest himself in Jesus as a fair man? Why not as a black man? Nations of other colours have EVERY RIGHT TO OBJECT. The truth is that Krishna and Jesus were HUMAN BEINGS, they WERE NOT GOD. They prayed to God.
@Peace4everynation : i don't know about jesus but i know that krishna is god, because people would not believe in any person saying that he is sent by god and god has given such and such rules to follow and suddenly all will start following. so he came himself, to teach humanity, but before designating himself as god in geeta, he never told other persons to worship him. the learned people themselves identified him as god.
@amit101ranjan : My dear, the Holy Prophet of Islam declared that he was sent by God, and more than 1.6 billion people are now believing in him today. People have always been following men who were sent by God. God is too far above having to come down to earth in bodily form. He is far, far above the frailties of human nature. Anyway, this discussion is interesting but has been going on a bit long now! Thank you for having presented your views. I have only love for you. May God bless you.
@Peace4everynation thank you. but i felt one thing more, seeking the truth will not lead people to form a single religion. only god knows whether he came himself or he sent messengers. hindus trust in first deny other, and muslims trust second denying first. it's has more become a matter of belief now than to seek what is actual truth. so, it's better to be in beliefs. best is to respect other people's belief. i respect islam, for teaching humanity. but hinduism also teaches the same.
@Peace4everynation prophet Md.(pbuh) uncle Umar-Bine-Hassnam was a hindu&a strict worshiper of Shiva(google it).If u god is infinite then god is not too far.He is everywhere for the 1 who can c & nowhere for the 1 who cant.An atom's (nuclear bomb) energy destroyed hiroshima nagasaki by USA.How many atoms do u hav in ur body, multiply that with the power of that atomic bomb.its infinite.If god is infinite&the energy in u is in infinite, a=b, b=c;a=c.concept of 'aham brahmasmi'.
@gajuambi : Your knowledge of history is unfortunately very poor. None of the Prophet (peace be upon him)'s ancestors was ever Hindu. History does not show that there were ever any practising Hindus in Arabia, let alone Mecca, before the advent of Islam and for a long time thereafter. Your concocted formulae are nothing but an attempt to explain irrational beliefs by something tangible. They have no bearing on reality.
@amit101ranjan an amoeba when separates into two or many it becomes the parent of itself. The same way the trinity is defined in hinduism.The female aspect of god is called shakti(allah is another name of shakti aka durga) and siva her consort.The same way brahma, vishnu, maheshwara are just different forms of worship of one god as said in vedas.
@gajuambi: An amoeba NEEDS to multiply in order to keep its species alive. God is far, far beyond having to replicate Himself. He has all qualities imaginable, and to say that there is another one like Him is to speak of something redundant. If He needs another being, that means He suffers from some kind of weakness that the other god can help Him out. Such an idea would go viciously against the notion of God being All-Powerful, and would be an ignorant attack on His Holiness.
@amit101ranjan how can u say god is infinite and almight powerful but still say that earth is too far for him.nothing is too far for the almighty and if it is too far for for god then he is not almighty.krishna's dwaraka has been found in gujarat by americans under the see& they have dated it atleast 12k to 15thousand yrs old.In hinduism we have scriptures suggesting history of thousands of yrs before krishna.Islam is 1400 yrs old.the islamic founder Md.(pbuh) uncle was a hindu.u do the math.
@gajuambi: Any serious scholar of the history of Hinduism would strongly deny the "facts" you have put forward here. Nothing goes beyond 5000 years in Hinduism as we know it, and even that estimate is a very generous one. Your Americans finding a dwarka under the sea dated to 12000 years ago is an amusing story, no doubt, but it is pure fiction. Do not believe everything people tell you, my friend, and try not to divorce your beliefs from the realities of life on earth and of true history.
you can consider, if god takes a human form, he will be very bright, since the sky looks bright in daylight. but if you go beyond, the universe is black. when there were no stars, no galaxies, there existed only one thing and that is god. and imaging how would every thing look like? BLACK. nothing except black.. that's why god in human form has color black. that's my opinion.
@Peace4everynation u seem to answer ur own doubt. black is the color of the universe.the day starts with black(after 12am to 5am its black), the day ends as black (5pm to 12pm) in between there is light.Also the color black reflects least of the light that falls on it.color black is not a part of the VIBGYOR.color black is the biggest color since sky is actually black(even though we see it as blue due to light effect).black is the natural & real color.krishna prayed to his own form vishnu.
@gajuambi: What you are saying makes no sense here. The topic is: How can God decide to take human form as an Indian, or a Chineseman, or an African, or a Jew, and thereby anger and sadden the rest of humanity? It is impossible for God to do so. He can send messages to anyone from any nation, but He cannot show such execrable partiality by taking on the shape of a particular race of human beings. I love all races equally, and I am sure that God does too. I cannot pray to a "god" who has a race.
4. as far as fairness creams are concerned, they developed in west. every girl wants to look good, what's wrong in that. and even if they think that it will help in marrying a nice guy, what's wrong in that? how does it relate to religion? i can't understand. there was only one bias ever existed in indian society, and that was castism. color was never a problem.
@peace4everynation : 3. now the bias on basis of caste did to the sudra was a sideeffect of caste system, which was a problem. and we want to erase it and we will erase it very soon. so u can see, in all three comment i spoke nothing related to religion. coz it isn't. this is big sociology chapter, u can read if you are interested, but please don't mix sociology to religion.
@amit101ranjan: The damage done by religious bias towards fairer godsis immense. Their fairness is even celebrated: "Jaya Jaya Shankari, GAURI Kripakari, Dukkha nivarani, Kamakshi" (Hail Hail wife of Shankara, O YE OF FAIR COMPLEXION, full of compassion and remover of distress,Hail Kamakshi !) No wonder Indian men seeking wives specify that they want fair ones. Darker women are stigmatised, and skin-whitening creams now abound in India. God must NEVER be given any colour or feature whatsoever.
@amit101ranjan: I respect your right to worship whatever you please. I do not subscribe to the rationale behind worshipping something only because it was created to benefit people. For example, if a criminal gave large sums of money to the poor, would they be right to worship him? Can you worship the British for having given India the railway, the judiciary, etc.? When one pushes this argumentation too much, it goes too far. E.g. in Bihar, "Goddess English" is now being worshipped! See BBC News
@Peace4everynation 1. i said it earliar, and repeating it again, color bias thing has nothing to do in hindu religion. first, every person wants a beautiful women. don't people in islam want? that's what they expect when they will go to heaven. india is full of mixed complexion, and every type of societies have their own systems. you know why catism was created? to avoid this kind of thinking. the poeple in a caste used to marry girl in same caste that was a rule. this made the society strong.
@Peace4everynation second thing, i am from bihar, and i never heard such kind of goddess english term before. m listening it first time. even if it is happening, u cannot relate it anyway to hindu ideology, foolish people are everywhere. nowhere in hindu scriptures are written to designate any thing to god. hindus worship only those as devtas who are referred in scriptures.
@Peace4everynation for your first comment, i have already said that hindus worship those elements of nature whom we consider god's form, and yes their number reaches to millions. but now you are putting arguments in wrong direction. you are comparing devtas or angels to criminals or british rule, while it's cristal clear that nature do not harm in any way. they are made for our survival, not to rule us. they never demand from us, but give give and only give.
@Peace4everynation how can you compare the food which gives us life and we call it anna devta to a criminal who gave large sum of money to poor. have you realized it ever demanded anything from humans. now bad type of intake is human made, using nature against themselves to destroy themselves is human nature. can you compare the sun, whose light is responsible for life as a british rule, who took all the jewels and wealth from india? this argument is completely ridiculous.
@peace4everynation : actually these scriptures were written in very ancient times. hindu mythology denies evolution, and dates life's origin to millions of years back. divided time in four parts, satayuga, dwapara, treta, and kalyug. each parts have millions of years. and in all those time period there were only aaryans and sanatans dharma. this is kalyug and it has completed it's 5000 years. in this yug, there are so many religions. god is not unjust but giving different pathways to people.
@peace4everynation : in hinduism too, there are teachers of religion, saints. but they never claim that they are themselves blessed by god or what they are saying this is word of god. because even if they were guided to speek words of god. human memory can't go beyond his birth time. he can't memorise whom he talked before he took birth. it's impossible. hindu saints represent meaning of geeta, or preach love to god by ramayana.
@peace4everynation : but it's also a fact that if we pray to lord rama or krishna, his every elements are automatically worshipped. and thanks giving to nature is complete by worshiping to lord. and people do that, but sometimes also to devtas like a hindu shopkeeper worship money as mata lakshmi. now money is present every where but only in india it is regarded as mother. so why would god be annoyed if it is giving his element a respect which he created himself for people's benefits.
@peace4everynation : and all the forms of them are representations of them. you need not to worship them. still they will do their work, and retain the life on earth. because this is for what they are made for. now that will be hard part of humans. so , there comes pictorial representations , worships, festivals. these things complete our lives, and fill it with joy. and god never get angry on people worshiping his own elements. there is no point of being angry.
@ peace4everynation : we consider devtas to not any imaginary character of story. all devtas are directly related to some part of nature which serves us. i already gave many examples. and nature exists everywhere, so it's false that devtas are only in bharat. but then, only hindus see in nature's elements a god form. and they give respect to them, joining their hands before them, since they feel that they are indebt of them. other nations see them lifeless, but actually it isn't.
@peace4everynation : i have already said devtas are god's part. u also say angels do what evr god commands them. difference is only in that point, that in your book it is written that angels can't listen to your prayers and in my book it is written that god for every kind of needs of humans the provider of those needs are itself god's form. so we pray to nirakar brahma but also to his that form which is giving us life, like sun, water etc.
@peace4everynation i never said god never forgive our sins. it's clear in hindu religion too, that if a person shows repentance to god, then he forgive him. but there is one condition more. that he will never ever repeat the mistake in life. then only his sins are forgiven by merciful god, otherwise he will have to pay for it. it's like smoking, if i smoke, and pray to god that please god, don't harm me , m sorry for what m doing, prayer will have be meaningless. but work if i promise to quit it
9 @peace4everynation : morever, colour has nothing to do in hinduism. this is western ideology. in tamil people are black, but many are brahmans too. in hinduism, important thing is how much closer are you to god. since from birth of sanatana dharma, brahmans are considered to be most respectable people of society, as they are learned people. from very ancient times all discoveries in hinduism were by saints. so they are vandaniya. hope i answered everything. thank you.
1. @amit101ranjan: It is certainly a noble attempt on your part to explain things as you see them, and I thank you for that. We can agree on some points, and at least agree to disagree on others! Islam teaches us that only part of man's life is predestined, such as: his place and time of birth, his colour, his maximum physical and spiritual capacities, etc. However, man's deeds are entirely in his control, and God, being Creator and Master of all, is not so powerless as to be obliged to let...
2. @amit101ranjan: ...his creatures be obliged to suffer all the consequences. For example, a mother may choose to punish her child for a misdeed. But if her child shows true repentance and regret, and asks for her forgiveness, often the mother's tenderness will make her forgive her child, and her child will love her for her kindness. Is God less merciful than a mother? Certainly not. God says: I can forgive all sins, except that of worshipping another instead of Me, your Only True benefactor...
3. @amit101ranjan: ...Islam teaches us that angels cannot benefit us in any way by their own will. They only act according to God's will. Indeed, we can ask, how is it that only in India people have known about all these mahadevas, devtas and devis? Do all these divine beings only bless people following dharmas of Bharat? We observe on the contrary that God has been blessing all nations and races in different ways throughout history, even though the majority knew nothing of these devtas...
4. @amity101ranjan: I, as a non-Indian, cannot relate to any of the idols of India, inasmuch as they have Indian features. They do not look like me or my people. Why do these devis and devtas look Indian? Where did Indians ever see the true forms of these beings? Clearly they are from the imaginations of men. I can never believe that God could take on one shape or another to show men how to behave. God cannot be kind to some and unjust to others. God SPEAKS to men whom He sends to guide nations.
5. @amit101ranjan: This phenomenon of God speaking to blessed individuals and sending them as messengers to their nation is a common, universal phenomenon. The only thing that all races on earth have in common is that they ALL know of One God, the Supreme Being. No two nations share knowledge of mahadevas, devtas or devis. All nations have invented their own demi-gods who only exist in their own mythology and rarely anywhere else. These beings are mistakenly given god-like powers by people...
6. @amit101ranjan: I myself have had many, many prayers heard, and none of them were addressed to a deva or devi. They were ALL addressed to the Supreme Being, the God who the whole of humanity has in common. God says in the Holy Qur'an: Had there been any other gods apart from Me, surely you would see them fight each other and be in conflict. This is exactly what we see in Greek, Hindu and Roman mythologies. In truth, there is only ONE BEING Who answers prayers, and that is the True God of all.
8 @peace4nation : aryans were more concerned for purity of religion, so much , that even different interpretation of vedas were not allowed. and they were in safe hands of saints or brahmans. since vedas were considered as god's words, and they didnot want it to be corrupted. so as shudras had no idea of sanatan dharma, they were not allowed to read it. this was the religious reason. after that whatever caste system was formed was a complete sociology and has nothing to do with religion.
7 @peace4everynation : christianity and hinduism are very different kind of ideology. in india, after the war between aaryans ( mordern hindus ) and indus valley civilization. aaryans won the war and made them slaves. but unlike other religions they didn't imposed on them their own religion. those were called sudras, and they were free to live they way they like to. morever they were kept away from vedas, and other scriptures. since aryans had no intention of expansion by religion.
6 @peace4everynation : i need to modify my previous comment that god can't change the fate since it's already decided. but certainly god listens to humans wish, and that too is included in fate, that where and how he will guide them. but i prefer never to demand and love god selflessly. not to blame him for miseries ( for it's of one's own sins ) , and not to forget him in happiness is most beautiful thing one can do for him.
4 @peace4everynation : for the fights among devtas. i had said at a point. god said "eko aham, bahushyamin". i continue from that. god form souls just like him with no form, and then provided them different forms, one devtas, one manushya, last danava ( evils). he formed thre different places for them to live, heaven for first, earth for manushya ( human being) and paatal for evils. now, there are stories of fights among devtas and danavas, for acquisition of haven.
3 @peace4everynation : the example was sudama, who was extremely poor, he hadn't even food to eat. in that condition also he used to chant "shree krishna" everytime. his love for god was never lessened by poverty. but amazing thing was that he never tried to demand anything from god. not even food to eat. because he knew that the fate he is facing is result of some previous deeds, and he is paying for it. and there was no question of demanding any wish from other devtas since he had no wish.
2. @peace4everynation : and a man's fate is decided by his previous deeds. it doesn't matter in what you believe. only thing matter is what you do. doing wrong things lead to unhappiness in life and that is fate, nobody can change it , not even god. god can only give strength to suffer the curses but can't change it. thus it's ridiculous to demand anything from god. but still people demand everytime from god. the more they go deep in religion, more love is felt and even in poverty they love him.
@peace4everynation :1.then question is why do not they call directly god for it? because god is meant to be prayed without any self motive. he can provide everything, it's true and he created those devtas only to provide people with those things which they needed. but still he don't expect any desires from people. the reason behind this fact lies in geeta. god has already decided a man's fate. it's like whatever is happening, has already happened before in some other time.
@peace4everynation : it can be misconception that one would be jealous of others worshiping, however it's not true. but will say another thing. if you are given something by someone you are indebt to him. similar thing is considered here. devtas help us to live properly and on prayer also provides prosperity, so if they provide us something, then for their happiness hindus praise them. in scriptures, it is written in detail, that which devta can provide which thing on worship, so people do that.
hindus know who is almighty, the one who has no shape, no body and who guides us. in the same ramayana where god is said to have taken form of rama is written god has no form. so , there should not be any confusion for hinduism.
@amit101ranjan : Yes, there should be no confusion. However, I have seen some Hindus, when they pray to a particular murthi, turn all the other murthis around, so that they do not become jealous of not being the ones addressed. If all devtas and devis were manifestations of the same God, why would one be jealous of another? Why do some fight with others? Why do some inflict suffering on others? The books of Hinduism are full of such stories of conflicts between mahadevas, devtas and devis.
for ex- when it doesn't rain, farmers call the god of rain "indra", to rain on their lands, since they believe he is a god's form, knowing that that almighty god is one and he has no form. it's not a sin because in their intentions they are calling a god's form and they donot think that his form is any other one than god. now, hindus bow before them because they know that these are the form due to which thay do have existence but even then they hardly build temples for them. cont..
@amit101ranjan : It has been observed by millions of people that when God or Bhagawan is sincerely and earnestly called upon for rain, He answers that prayer. In the Ahmadiyya Muslim experience, this has been witnessed hundreds of times. In some drought-stricken areas, people request Ahmadi Muslims to pray for rain in order to prove their religion is true. Heavy rainfall usually follows, and these people then join our community. Thus, when Bhagawan answers there is no need to pray to devtas.
some souls were made to run the universe, those were called "devatas". these souls were given a form. the forms they were provided are many like stars ( saptarishi, dhruva are examples), water, fire, earth. sun. and the number of these "devatas" reaches to millions or more. reason why people worship them? these forms are provided with some powers and they are in universe to flourish the life on earth. when people come in difficulty they direct praise these forms to make mercy on them. cont..
@amit101ranjan : This concept of devtas ressembles the concept of angels in Islam. In Islam also, it is taught that God created angels to run the universe. However, angels never fight with each other. They all obey God's commands. They do not compete with each other, and they do not cause harm to each other. They do not fall in love with human beings. They are in harmony. They themselves worship God, they do not wish to be worshipped. This is their nature which is explained brilliantly in Islam.
@Peace4everynation i don;t agree with this bit' angels don't fight with each other'
i think you will agree that there are good angel and bad angel and in actual life people are sometime possess by bad angel. to cure them some sheik use the help of good angel. you will find load of video on you tube about this
@livenletlive20 : I do not know of "BAD" angels. Some Muslims believe that the word JINN refers to invisible spirits that possess people. That is total superstition. All cases of possession are psychosomatic or mental disorders. Many Mullahs and Sheikhs exploit ignorant people by making them believe in exorcisms to get their money. JINN mean many things in Arabic, including great human leaders, mountain tribes, bacteria and viruses, snakes, etc. Angels are all obedient to God.
@Peace4everynation it's not superstition. if you are a muslim you must have read that in the Quran, surat an-manl. Prophet Sulaiman had an army of birds, Jinns and man. you know what an army does. they will fight when they need to. i am writing with reference to the following commentsyou made.' they do not harm each other. They are in harmony. Superstition. mental disorders'. i have been reading all the comment on this page, i really liked them. please read on prophet Sulaiman from Quran.
@livenletlive20 : Jinn are in fact men of the upper classes. The Qur'an says: "Rijaalun min-al-Jinn" - "Men from among the Jinn". The upper classes usually stay "hidden" from public view, in their mansions and palaces, and this is why in Arabic they are called JINN, which means "hidden". If they are Rijaal then they are human. Also, you never find any mention of Jinn in Paradise, you only find humans mentioned. So the Jinn who go there are nothing but upperclass human beings.
since it was easy for people to love god in a from, they did that. they started worshiping god in form of rama and krishna. now , why they worship many god? god made many forms of him to run this universe. somewhere it is written , god said "eko aham, bahushyamin". eko aham means i am one, ( islam says god is one and hinduism teaches the same), bahushyamin means i will be many. then he created souls, which were his parts and they themselves had no form. they had the same features like god. cont
hinduism definitely preaches that god has no form or face ( nirguna ). he is almighty, creator of universe. and then it says that to destroy evil and save the saints he took a form of human being and came to earth. believing on his powers he could do that, and then he preached humans some lessons, written in ramayana and gita. ramayana teaches how to be a nice human, and geeta explains further how to reach god after death, meaning "mukti", which is not heaven but for reunion to god. cont....
@amit101ranjan : The belief that God, having no form, still somehow takes a human form, is a very dangerous one. Look at the evils perpetrated against dark races by Trinitarian Christianity, for example. I believe that Christ was indeed a man of truth sent by God. However, when his followers decided in the 4th Century AD that "Christ is God in human form", all dark nations were then forced to bow down to a God who is a white man. This has led dark races to be mentally enslaved by Europeans.
2. @amit101ranjan: The terrible results of such mental slavery by people who cannot understand why God would choose to take on one human form and not another, are there for all to see. See the social conditions faced daily by African-Americans, who have been subjected to atrocious racism which ALL stems from a belief that God chose to appear as a white man, giving white men a feeling of superiority. In India also, whiter people have always felt superior to darker people for similar reasons.
3. @amit101ranjan: I highly recommend the documentary "The Modern Racist Paradigm", which explores the evils born out of one culture imposing their colour in their religion, art, fashion, etc., on another colour of human beings. It is an eye-opener. All religions should abandon worshipping their human forms of God and stick to worshipping God in His Formlessness and Invisibility. Worshipping God as an Invisible Being prevents some nations from feeling that God looks more like them than others.
@jayd4ever : Every dharma or religion contains some form of truth. It is for people to correctly understand that truth and not to let illusions mask their understanding. Also, people must continue to humbly beg God to guide them to all truth, and should not fall into the arrogance of thinking that they already know all truth.
islam is opposed to the worship of any other god than the 1 god whom created the heavens and earth, anything in partners, as brothers,sisters whatever it may be is completely forbidden and will place you in the hellfire.
Hindus worship many gods thus they are not our(abrahamic monotheists) brothers or sisters in faith.
@2ndT0M3h: Although Hindus apparently worship many gods, in fact these "gods" often turn out to be prophets sent by God for the guidance of the people of India, or saints or angels or holy men and women, reverence towards whom eventually turned into worship. Nevertheless, Hindus do believe and acknowledge the Supreme Being Who is the same God as the one Muslims believe in. Please note that many Muslims also worship prophets, saints and holy men and women these days, asking for favours from them.
Did you miss the bit in my comment that says NO PARTNERS,BROTHERS,SISTERS to god.
Sorry but i really dont show mercy to any1 trying to justify or sympathise or even worse advertise idol worship nevertheless put believers on the same rank as disbelievers.
Its just deceiving the people and plainly untrue in every sense.
@2ndT0M3h: True Muslims would never worship anyone apart from the One God Who created the universe. However, millions of Muslims nowadays go to the tombs of prophets and saints to beg for favours from them. If you were unaware of this, then I suggest you research this topic. It is a well-known fact. And it is very unfortunate. But every religion has gone down this track of ascribing divine powers to mortal beings. Nevertheless, all human beings are our brothers and sisters. We must love everyone
Im not talking about followers, im talking about the religion itself. Pagenism is pagenism doesn't matter what cover you try to place on it.
Also there must be a balance, having love for everything and anything is just crazy, we must learn to love for the sake of god what is good and hate for the sake of god what is evil.
Having said this the similiarities between islam and hinduism are so minor due to the main factor(monotheism) being comprimised in hinduism.
@2ndT0M3h: We are taught to love people as human beings, but to hate the evil that they commit. There is a great divide between some of the rites of Islam and the Dharmas of India. However, a deeper study of their key elements will reveal more similarities than meet the eye. The philosophy of Karma is similar to the Islamic belief in reward and punishment for one's deeds. Reincarnation is a different interpretation of being reborn spiritually. God is One. Avatars reflect God just as Prophets do.
@2ndT0M3h: We must strive to find common points and to discuss our differences in a loving and intellectual atmosphere. It does no one any good to pontificate on what people having a superficial vision of things think to be insuperable chasms that separate us. Reaching out to one's brothers and sisters is vital in order to establish world peace. I personally find that by concentrating on our common points and intellectually discussing our differences, we can increase goodwill in the world.
@2ndT0M3h: Who is saying anything about compromise? There are already many common points between us. There is no need to compromise our beliefs and practices, just a need to have open-mindedness instead of that condemning and unforgiving attitude which so characterises the extremist Mullahs and self-styled Islamic scholars of today.
but what i am saying is that monotheists do not build bridges with pagens; faith wise. It is a form of deception. We could have gatherings and debate like civilised people and share beliefs(which is open-mindedness) but when it comes to apologetic forms of justifying a pagen religion and bringing it on the same planes as a monotheistic religion than i am completely opposed.
We could share many virtues written within scriptures but we sure as hell arent the same.
@2ndT0M3h: First of all, not all Hindus are idolaters. Secondly, there is no question of us attempting to justify paganism. However, people are free to explain why they do certain things. That is the freedom that everyone must enjoy. Then, we can debate the philosophy of these forms of worship and these beliefs in a friendly fashion. Some forms of idolatry are very subtle. If you study carefully, you will find that monotheists now also attribute supernatural qualities to certain human beings.
1. Tell me of which hindus that are not pagen and tell me the origins of this monotheistic belief(if it is withing their beliefs).
2.What followers of a religion do accounts to nothing when judging the religion. We speak about the religion not followers.
To say monotheists now attribute supernatural qualities to certain beings elludes to the fact that................ well, i have no clue what it elludes to, TELL ME PLEASE.
@2ndT0M3h: The Arya Samajis, for instance. And there is the Vaishna monotheism, of which Krishnaism is well known. The nature of the One God is seen quite differently by Jews, Christians and Muslims of all their different sects. Similarly, the understanding of the nature of the One God in monotheistic Hindu sects varies. Using the same Vedic texts, monotheistic Hindus understand that there is one God. This is the same as the Bible. Most Christians see Trinity where others see absolute Unity.
2. @2ndT0M3h: In the Qur'an, the Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) says: "Holy is my Lord! Am I anything but a man, a messenger?" when idolaters ask him to go up into the sky and come back down again. This shows that Islam is RATIONAL. But then so-called scholars of Islam come and tell the world that Muhammad (pbuh) DID go to the heaven PHYSICALLY during his Mi'raj and Israa!!! So, who do we believe? These are the types of supernatural natures attributed by misguided monotheists to human beings .
lol how does that even relate to this discussion? it means nothing what the followers do when we are talking about a RELIGION.
However thankyou for enlightening me to the arya samajis who constitute 4 million in number and are the only real monotheistic group i read about, the vaishna have multiple deities.
Please show me in mainstream hindu scriptures where god is stated as only one as is seen in the quran.
@2ndT0M3h : I agree that it is the religion itself that must be studied. But when the INTERPRETATION of the sciprtures is made by followers with poor insight, and who are irrational, they can twist the meanings being presented to the world. Christ said nothing of being God and he never told people to worship him. Yet, Biblical scripture is interpreted by many Christians to mean Christ is God...(continued...)
2. @2ndT0M3h: Similarly, in the Qur'an, Allah says that He does TAWAFFA in only TWO ways: Either on SOULS (not bodies) in SLEEP, or on SOULS at the time of DEATH. Then those souls decreed to live are sent back to their bodies, and those decreed to die and witheld and are not sent back. Yet, almost all of the 1.6 billion Muslims today believe that when Allah did TAWAFFA on Jesus (pbuh), He also TOOK HIS BODY!!! This is how religious scripture is true, but its monotheistic followers still deviate.
@2ndT0M3h: In the Nyaya Kusumanjali, against the the Mimamsa school saying there were many demigods (devas) and sages (rishis) who wrote the Vedas and created the world" we read:
"[if there are] other beings...capable of creating everything, we reply that the law of parsimony bids us assume only one such, namely Him, the adorable Lord. There can be no confidence in a non-eternal and non-omniscient being." Unlike the Qur'an, many verses of the Vedas are often interpreted to imply polytheism.
@Vedantka: I agree that God is God and all other beings are completely distinct from Him. This is exactly what the Holy Qur'an teaches us. God manifests Himself in different perfect people on earth, at different times and epochs, in order to guide people back to true Dharma (true religion) and to give them the victory over Adharma (irrleigion). These people are NOT God, but they reflect God's qualities in them. Sri Krishna Ji Maharaj and Sri Rama Chandra Ji Maharaj were among these great people.
This comparison between Hinduism & Islam is absolutely in favor of Hinduism.The choice of words in the Om Jai Jagdish Hare prayer & the words from Quaran,the depth of the meaning,etc simply cannot be compared.Quaran looks here as if a child tried to be a professor(in spiritual science).Sorry it is absolutely not for me!
@Vedantka: My dear, a simple comparison has been made here, but remember we are not comparing 2 revealed scriptures here. This prayer is a recent poetic composition, and there are many such poetic compositions so full of meaning written by Muslims of the recent centuries that one is absolutely transported by the extasy they create in the soul. They are based on the Qur'an, just as this Om Jai Jagdish Hare is based on the Vedas and Gita. One cannot compare revealed scripture with poetic prayers.
2. @Vedantka: Also, I had only taken out snippets of verses from the Qur'an to show that this Hindi prayer bears many parallels with Quranic verses. It would be unwise to think that the small portions of Quranic verses presented here are being strung together to form a song. This is not at all the case. Most people viewing this video had understood that. The profound meanings, the music within the language in the Quran and its cadence and rhythm move those who understand them to tears of love.
Also submission has very different emotional association than surrender.Surrender is ONLY out of LOVE,submission is more like out of fear or recognition that you can not win with all powerful God.Hinduism teaches that there is a way to win over God and that is through selfless Love for Him.It is called bhakti.
@Vedantka: You have misunderstood Islam, my dear. It seems you get your information from extremist Muslims or Fox News. Extremists, fanatics and intolerant people can NEVER be those to be trusted if you want to understand the religion they wrongly say they belong to. The whole story of submission to God in Islam is based on Love! The notion of fear in Islam is that one fears to behave badly to one's Beloved for fear of losing His love. It is not a fear like the fear one has of ferocious beasts.
2. @Vedantka: In Islam, the true servants and devotees of God are those who are said to love Him more than their own selves, than their families and their wealth. God's love is won through sincere devotion and following the beautiful teachings of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), who spoke respectfully of Krishna (peace be upon him) calling him Kahina, the Arabic for Kanhaiyya. We Muslims pray only to God, just as Krishna prayed. Bhagwan never prays as He is beyond having needs.
@Peace4everynation Krishna is God and He prayed NOT because He had some need BUT to show people the way by His own example.God does things NOT out of need but out of compassion for us.Humans can never understand God,only Saints do as their minds became divine by God's grace.So only Saints properly interpret even Vedic Scriptures.
@Vedantka: Krishna had need for a son, and he prayed to Shiva to obtain that son. Nowhere is it written that he prayed "only to show people the way by his own example". That is pure conjecture on your part. Krishna was a true Sakar Swaroopa of Bhagwan, but that does not make him into Bhagwan. Bhagwan, the Real God, NEVER prays to anything, as you will read in the true writings of the Vedas. Sakar Swaroopas are important as we can see in them the true IMAGE of God. We cannot see God directly.
@Vedantka: When it is written: "Krishnastu Bhagawan swayam" - Krishna is God - it only means that the image of God reflected in Krishna's personality is so perfect that it is as if we are seeing God Himself. This is exactly what is taught in the Bible: God created Man in His Own Image. And the Holy Prophet Muhammad said that God becomes the servant whom He loves. It is as if one sees God in a mirror. However, ignorant people begin to worship the mirror image instead of worshipping the Real God.
0:40 is very wrongly expressed.It is only the UNDERSTANDING of ONE God that divides humanity.Hindus also believe in ONE God but they understand that God can do whatever He wishes with HIS unlimited powers,so many deities are no problem for Hindus.They are problem to ignorant & confused Christians & Muslims as they are not able to see behind their narrow-minded dogmatic religions the vastness & completeness of Vedic presentation of God.
@Vedantka: When people confuse perfect reflections of God, whether they are Rishis or Avatars or Saints or angels called Devas, Devtas and Devis in the Dharmas of India, they do not realise that each person who is a Sakar Swaroopa or physical form reflecting God is just like a bright mirror, in which the reflection of Bhagwan can be seen. So, ignorant people begin to be devoted to the mirror instead of being devoted to Bhagwan. ALL Rishis, Avatars, Devas and Devis depend on Almighty Bhagwan.
2. @Vedantka: You should try to see beyond the Arya Varta, and not believe that true Dharma has been granted only to the people of Bharat. The Holy Qur'an is the ONLY revealed book which declares that God is the God of ALL UNIVERSES, of ALL PEOPLES, of ALL MANKIND. In the Holy Qur'an, God says that there is not a single people on earth who did not receive messengers from God procaliming the eternal truth to them and warning them to be careful about their Karma, as they will reap what they sow.
@Peace4everynation Absolutely NOT true,have you read Bhagaved-Gita where Shri Krishna Himself says He is the Lord of all existence.The law of karma would be absurd & totally incomplete without the law of reincarnation.A man is born blind because he reaps what he sow in previous life & not because God for some unknown reason wants to test him or sth like that.Only Vedic Scriptures have a science of God & us as souls and they present complete spiritual philosophy.
@Vedantka: When Krishna says he is Lord of all existence, Jesus says that he and the Father are One, Muhammad says that God becomes the servant He loves, all these are expressions of close proximity which cannot be taken literally. Bhagwan is NOT born on earth. He does NOT pray. He does NOT eat or drink or sleep like weak human beings do. But God manifest Himself in perfect devotees and makes them into His true image on earth, His Sakar Swaroopas. Ignorant ones mistake Sakar Swaroopas for God.
2. @Vedantka: The law of Karma is found in all true religions, where a human being is rewarded or punished for his or her deeds committed during their lifetime on earth. It will be great injustice if a person cannot remember what evils they had committed previously. How will they know how to stop doing these evils in their next life? I cannot remember anything form any previous life. So how will I avoid repeating any old evils? Karma can function perfectly within 1 lifetime which man remembers.
One God does NOT mean that He can have only one form.God has ONE original form BUT He can take as many forms as He wishes & He is simultaneously formless.The great tragedy of Islam is that your self proclaimed human prophet tried to limit God(to the word ONE),the ONE who is absolutely LIMITLESS & Who can do things unimaginable to us.No form can limit Him & His glory;ALL His forms are Divine & complete in Themselves.Once humans try to explain God,the result is ignorance=fanaticism+intolerance.
@Vedantka: It is not right for you to come here and accuse me of belonging to ignorant, fanatic, intolerant Muslims. That is very impolite of you, and in fact very ignorant, fanatic and intolerant of YOU. The rude affront you have shown does not reflect the great the moral qualities taught by Sri Krishna Ji Maharaj. Calling the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) a "self-proclaimed prophet" is pure narrow-mindedness that you are displaying. My many sincere Hindu friends are not like you.
2. @Vedantka: You do not understand the meaning of ONENESS of God. All true religions teach that God is ONE. That does not mean that He does not manifest Himself in many forms. All creatures reflect Bhagwan to some degree, and the perfect people who surpass all others in their devotion and worship of Bhagwan become His Sakar Swaroopas, who are such perfect reflections of Bhagwan that ignorant ones begin to believe that the Sakar Swaroopas are God themselves. And they worship them ignorantly.
@Vedantka: Mahatma Gandhi wrote of Muhammad (peace be upon him): "It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet, the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission...When I closed the second volume (of the Prophet's biography), I was sorry there was not more for me to read of that great life." (published in 'Young India,'1924)
@Peace4everynation Sorry but Gandhi's opinion on Muhammad is of no value to me.The history shows the real face of Islam which is literally soaked in blood of millions of innocent people who lost their lives during Islamic conquests & their rule in India.I do not believe in prophets,I believe in Saints who are ALWAYS present on Earth to guide those who are ready to surrender,all Saints ALWAYS thought the same:that a path to God is through bhakti=loving devotion to a chosen form of God.
@Vedantka: Mahatma Gandhi Ji's opinion is of great value to millions of people. It is your right to disregard it. I, however, am of the opinion that he was a far wiser man than you are. He never pompously told anyone that they had got it all wrong, that they were ignorant, or that their religious leader was a "self-appointed prophet" as you have arrogantly doen. The first lesson of Bhakti is to be humble, and you have shown that this is a quality you severely lack. You should reform your soul.
@Peace4everynation For me Mahatma Gandhi didn't practice Vedic Dharma at all,he used fasting for political manipulation& that's against the Scriptures.Also his non-violence policy was crazy as non-violence to your enemy causes only more violence & this was proven during partition.Yes,you have to be humble but it doesn't mean that you cannot have a clear opinion on different matters.I don't believe that there is such a thing like prophets of God.I believe ONLY in saints who are God realized souls
@Vedantka: Mahatma Gandhi practised Dharma according to his own understanding. In the Sanatan Dharma, it is well known that अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथीव च "Ahimsa Paramo Dharma; Dharma himsa tathaiva cha." "Non-violence is the ultimate dharma. So too is violence in service of Dharma." This is the religion of all Prophets of God too, whether you want to call them Saints or Avatars or Rishis is up to you. Prophets only take up arms when Bhagwan orders them to protect the faith from attack.
2. @Vedantka: Moreover, this jewel of misinformation you have put forward, that "millions of people lost their lives during Islamic conquests" is such a gross exaggeration that it does not even merit an answer. In the beginning, Islam was under severe attack by all nations around it including by the Arab idolaters themselves. All battles fought by the Holy Prophet were in self-defence, and after 13 long years of atrocious persecution and killings of innocent and defenceless Muslims.
@Peace4everynation It is not exaggeration at all.Only in India almost 80 millions people lost their lives during Islamic conquests & ruling.Obviously we have different sources of information.My country=Poland always had to fight hard to survive Islamic aggressors & we won.It was our King Jan Sobieski who totally destroyed Turkish army in the battle of Vienna,September11/12/1683.So in Poland we were told quite different history of Islam, not censored by Islamic scholars.You believe what you want.
@Vedantka: 80 million people lost their lives during Islamic conquests??? Your sources of information must be ultra-nationalist racists my dear. That figure is absolutely false!!! I do not deny that thousands lost their lives during the 800 years of Muslim rule in India. But it is also true that the Muslims there did not try to convert the populations. It was wandering Sufis and merchants who brought Islam as a religion to Hindus, who were only too glad to be freed from the racist Caste system.
2. @Vedantka: I have already told you that if Muslims carried out political conquests, you should not condemn ISLAM for that. That would be like condemning Jesus for the Crusades, for the two World Wars and for the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade!!! Keep politics and religion apart. Previously, Aryans had invaded India, killing and pushing the Dravidian original Indians down to the South. The oldest cities on the Sindh River of Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro were Dravidian cities. Aryans displaced them.
3. @Vedantka: What Muslim Kings born centuries after the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) did later, were political wars, even if they were labelled as Islamic, which they were not in reality. Every people on earth has committed atrocities against other nations, including Hindus. Are not Hindus killing and raping Muslims in Kashmir, and blowing up Buddhists in Sri Lanka today? But we do NOT condemn the Sanatan Dharm or the Arya Dharm or any Dharm for what these Hindus do. You just hate Islam.
@Peace4everynation Hindus never conquered other lands for spreading their religion,their tolerance is more than obvious BUT tolerance should be ONLY practice towards those who reciprocate with the same,otherwise tolerance will be suicidal for the culture.I really believe in Kashmir the story is totally other way around,so the Muslims kill & rape Hindus as in Pakistan.I don't hate Islam BUT I believe Islam is a big thread to anyone who is not into it.Once you are majority the true face comes out.
@Vedantka: I already told you that Aryan Hindus conquered India, destroying Dravidians and forcing them to go South. Yes, I agree with you that tolerance should go both ways, and I agree with you that the fanatic Islam being practised today by many Muslims and the fanatic Hinduism being practixed by extremist Hindus is a threat to peace in the world. All good, peace-loving people of the world must join forces to combat fanaticism and extremism in EVERY religion and EVERY political sphere.
@Peace4everynation Christianity has changed methods but is still very much focused on conversions.And Islam is totally intolerant towards other beliefs,what clearly shows in countries like Saudi Arabia,Pakistan,Iran,Egypt,etc.There is NOT one majority Islamic country where people are free to practice their religion.
@Vedantka: Muslim countries of today have been profoundly influenced by misguided souls such as Abu'l A'la Maududi, Muhammad ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab and others, who had a very rigid, unkind and intolerant understanding of Islam. Muslim countries are NOT representative of the RELIGION of Islam. To think so would be ignorance. The Muslim Messiah, Ghulam Ahmad (peace be upon him) was sent to bring people back to peace. Read his book: w w w (dot) alislam (dot) org/library/books/Message-of-Peace.pdf
@Peace4everynation Right Back At You.. World Would Be A Much Nicer Place With More People Like You, Who Take The Time To Look Behind Different Cultures And Religions And Just Celebrate Being Human ..I Only Wish More And More People Saw The Similarities, There Would Be Alot Less Confrontation Between Muslims And Hindus.
@KatrinaJade22 : I am very touched by your beautiful compliment... I am certain that you are one of those people who look for similarities and beauty in everything too! Most people on earth are good-natured and want to live peacefully and justice with everyone else. This is perhaps reflected in the fact that so far 20 have liked this video and only 2 haven't :o) Let us hope that the day comes soon when all nations can see that they are just one family, so that love and peace can reign at last.
@Peace4everynation Are u trying to convince me what real islam is when the majority of the Muslims do not even recognize you guys as Muslims!! I even saw a site where i have seen bad stuff written about the founder of the ahmeddan movement (not an orientalist site or an evangelist site but a Muslim one)!!
@mmajonson: Ahmadiyya Muslims have accepted the Muslim Messiah whose advent had been predicted by the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), and for that reason all other Muslims despise and condemn us, just like all the Jews despised and condemned those who believed Jesus (peace be upon him) was the true Messiah for the Israelites. If you choose to believe in "bad stuff" written by people filled with hatred against the Ahmadiyya or against Islam, then that is your right, but it is not wise.
@Peace4everynation Like i said why dont you prove to me that I have been mislead by the so called "bad writings" of "people filled with hatred" .. I have seen both sides of the argument and have chosen the one that I seem perfectly sound...now if that does not agree with your conscience then I am sorry ,I did not mean to hurt you but I was just trying to tell others of what I think the truth is ....feel free to prove me wrong...lets start with Islam in general being the religion of PEACE!!
@mmajonson: Atheists have been responsable for the killing of the greatest number of people on earth by such a large margin, that I am amazed that an atheist can come here and criticise Islam for its supposed violence. Hitler, Stalin and Mao Tse Tung were all atheists. Just go and read the figures for the millions of innocent people who died because of them. That is what happens when people leave God and true religious morality: they eventually cease to have any empathy for others.
@mmajonson : Read this short book written by our Holy Founder on Jihad, then tell me if your "answeringislam" friends' facts on Islam were correct. It's easy to condemn and to arrogantly think one knows it all, isn't it? More sagacious people calmly study things before arriving at conclusions, and do not come to launch attacks like the one you have done, trying to pollute the friendly atmosphere between Hindus and Muslims. w w w (dot) alislam (dot) org/library/books/BritishGovt-and-Jihad.pdf
@Uploader: My true Islamic friend explained me about the Prophet and Black Stone theory when I enquired him. Why does Quran says "Pathway to the sky". I just wonder for whom they were trying to make a space way or path into the space? Is it to meet the Aliens or is it the Aliens who wanted to go back to their world in space? If I am still misunderstood of a mere human, I am sorry to say your religions and Gods certainly don't exist. Even if they had existed, it is for some or someone's reason.
@designerztouch: The black stone is nothing but a meteorite, one of the original stones used by Abraham (peace be upon him) to build the Ka'bah, or House of God, in Mecca, also called the Valley of Baca in the Bible and Bakkah in the Qur'an. Our God certainly exists and He speaks to whomsoever He pleases. For a recent example of how God spoke to someone in India, I invite you to read:
w w w (dot) alislam (dot) org/library/browse/book/Tadhkirah/#page/-19/mode/1up
@Peace4everynation that the black stone was used by Abraham is not proven,its only mentioned in the Quran and that the valley of baca in the bible is not Mecca can be understood by reading the entire passage of the Bible.u seem to be reading stuff according to how it suites u .From what I have studied about Islam ,it is far from being the religion of peace(there are conditions!)it commands followers to spread the message and if refused to use the sword! I'll be amazed if u cud prove me wrong
@mmajonson: How do you suggest we prove that Abraham did use the black stone? Does it have to be in the Bible? So if it's in the Bible it's true, but if not it's untrue? How childish! You can interpret "baca" as you prefer; the reality is that it is the same place as Bakkah in Arabia. Your conclusions on Islam only show that you have been studying it either from extremist Muslims or vicious anti-Islam evangelists and orientalists. You're welcome to visit my channel for true information on Islam.
@Peace4everynation When did i say that if its in the Bible it should be true or else its not??? Please dont try to put words into my mouth !! Since u say that I am having a wrong messed up extremist notion of Islam how about U & I have a discussion and try to prove to each other who is right or wrong?? I have studied Islam both ways you know and i have found that Muslims tend to distort the facts,I would appreciate it if u could show me otherwise and prove that it indeed is a religion of peace!
@mmajonson: "Muslims tend to distort the facts" is a gross over-generalisation. Everyone who is insincere and who argues just for the sake of argument, tends to distort the facts, as they have an agenda.
@Peace4everynation and where did you get the false notion that baca is the mecca?? I will send you a refutation to this claim that a msg to ur inbox ...hope you get the time to go through it!!
@Peace4everynation what do you mean that I was studying it from a extremists??? So now there are many Islams??? Extremist Islam,moderate Islam, Slightly less moderate Islam?? Allah forbids the followers to deviate even a little from the Quran and going by your views you r guilty of Riba !! I still ask you to prove to me that I am wrong!!
I am a Hindu Brahmin and still I don't accept the fact of GOD as such created every thing. To all you religious radicals, wait till you discover Aliens and their preaching to Humans for this much evolution and development of Human beings. Certainly Science has nt influenced me to ask and talk like this as even Science and Religion has failed repeatedly to answer some questions about Ancient life on earth.But almost everywer around the world, there are some forms of Alien depiction. Co-Incidence?
@designerztouch: It is interesting that you should mention aliens. Although I don't believe they have already reached earth - otherwise, it would be in the headlines of the news in every country - I do believe that one day we will meet alien creatures, as per the promise made by God in the Qur'an: "And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and of whatever living creatures He has spread forth in both. And He has the power to gather them together when He will so please."
@Peace4everynation I have seen many Historian's and Ancient Astronaut theorist's study and analysis of Holy books like Revelation, Genesis. Its just not more than questionable blunders present in it. Almost all the books has some common facts such as Guardians, Messengers, Angels from the sky came into earth and taught us religion, maths, physics, astrology, agriculture. MY question is how exactly every religion point the same. Were our historians wrong ? Did they misunderstand Aliens as Gods?
@Peace4everynation I am not here to bash anyone's belief. So I would not like to hurt anyone. But I just want to question some of the things our modern day educated people has failed to think about God and Religion. And which world are you living in ? Have not you seen or heard about the incidents like Roswell, Crawford, Nuremburg, Moscow, Mexico, Los Angeles, and many more UFO sightings that are scientifically proven that it is true but they did not have any idea what it is. Indeed we have
Anyone who reads my comments on questions such as Aliens, Gods will make them laugh at me. I wont be surprised because I think I can think beyond the truth and search for hidden truth and facts. I just laugh at anyone who does not question religions and Gods for not being unique. Although every religion has their different form of God, why is that their life has to same or similar?Krishna, Jesus, Moses, Budha all seen with cattles. Its certainly not Co-incidence.
2. @designerztouch: If you would like to read more on the Qur'an and extraterrestrial life, I highly recommend this link: w w w (dot) alislam (dot) org/library/books/revelation/part_4_section_7.html
but we can't true hindu these days. om shanti, shanti, shanti.
livenletlive20 3 weeks ago
hinduism..its a great religion ......it explains about the whole life of the earth and universe.....universe started with hinduism...and ends with it...the time, things,other religions and others criteria between these starting and ending is temporary.....finally all converges to one form..... hinduism exists if universe exists....finally hinduism means (the phenomenon of birth,death,survival,worship..etc)
durgesh39 2 months ago
this vedio shows the inter relationship between hindus and muslims....muslims praise allah(god.....)...and hindus praises the only god in the form of (god nd godess..... )names of (siva..durga),(hari,lakshmi) etc....names are different but the final destnation goes only one god......hiduism is the old and only religion ...othher religions are followers like branches of hinduism...the main root is hinduism....
durgesh39 2 months ago
Good thing Zakir Naik hasn't seen this video or he claims Hinduism originated from Islam Lol
forgottenmemories63 2 months ago
@forgottenmemories63 : You are probably right! Neither Islam originated in Hinduism, nor Hinduism in any other religion. All religions came from God to blessed individuals among every nation. This phenomenon was repeated by God all over the world, and this is why all peoples on earth have a notion of God today, whether they are highly civilised or tribal, sedentary or nomadic. No nation was singled out by God. He spoke to every nation in different eras. He loves all nations.
Peace4everynation 2 months ago
HINDU WORLD OLDEST RELIGION , WHEN HUMAN IS BIRTH !
ISLAM IS CHILD !
souro19 3 months ago
@souro19 : Hinduism is an old religion, but human beings have been around for over a million years. None of the religions known to man are older than 6500 years.
Peace4everynation 2 months ago
In my opinion, these discussions are positive, as they allow everyone to re-evaluate their own beliefs and to measure them by the yardstick of rationality and reality. Many paths may lead to one city, but if one person says: It is a city; another person says: It is a bus; another says: It is a mountain; then each one will have to put forward reasons and proofs why their declaration is true. They cannot all be reasonable statements, however appealing to their protagonists. Beliefs require proof.
Peace4everynation 3 months ago
these discussions will lead to nothing. to any hindu or muslim, you know your religion, you belief it is true, you belief it will lead to right direction, then simply walk on your path to god. the more you will see other paths the more you will deviate from your's. instead go deep in your own scriptures, not to grasp how my religion is best but to know the path to be good human being. even if one is atheist but nice human, i praise him. disbelief is better than hatred. peace.
amit101ranjan 3 months ago
@amit101ranjan : I do not wish to criticise your manners of worship. Just picking up on your reasoning here, one may wonder whether the cow, an animal worshipped and revered in India, only gives and gives. Cows roaming free create havoc in open markets in India, road accidents, traffic jams, spread filth in their dung all over cities and towns, every single day in India. They do not just offer milk. They also do a lot of damage. Yet, they're considered worshippable. All worship should be to God.
Peace4everynation 4 months ago
@Peace4everynation for thousands of years hindus are worshiping cow, but never get caught in traffic jams, or any other problem. this time if people are facing problem then for this people are responsible who own them and let them roam free on roads. this is problem of nagarpaika. we don't need to look back in scriptures for it. they are subject to be kept in goshalas. that is what the system. ipeople are themselves using nature against themselves, what will religion do in it.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@peace4everynation : so when god himself finished any doubt about color in hindu religion, how can it be a place of thinking in people's mind concerning religion? no way. it's false argument.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@peace4everynation : i know u still doubt in my explanations, so last thing about colour. if you think hindu religion ever mentioned something about colour, it was this- lord rama choosed for him a dark color in human form. lord krishna, "krishna" means black. and they were described the most beautiful faces, whom one could see and always want to see.one of the reason to love for god was given his face and the face has color black. (may be because the color of universe is black that's my opinion
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@amit101ranjan : I am aware that Krishna was black even though he is usually depicted as being blue. My point, which you seem not to be grasping, is: How can God decide to manifest Himself in Krishna as a black man? Why not as a yellow man? Why not as a brown man? How can God decide to manifest himself in Jesus as a fair man? Why not as a black man? Nations of other colours have EVERY RIGHT TO OBJECT. The truth is that Krishna and Jesus were HUMAN BEINGS, they WERE NOT GOD. They prayed to God.
Peace4everynation 4 months ago
@Peace4everynation : i don't know about jesus but i know that krishna is god, because people would not believe in any person saying that he is sent by god and god has given such and such rules to follow and suddenly all will start following. so he came himself, to teach humanity, but before designating himself as god in geeta, he never told other persons to worship him. the learned people themselves identified him as god.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@amit101ranjan : My dear, the Holy Prophet of Islam declared that he was sent by God, and more than 1.6 billion people are now believing in him today. People have always been following men who were sent by God. God is too far above having to come down to earth in bodily form. He is far, far above the frailties of human nature. Anyway, this discussion is interesting but has been going on a bit long now! Thank you for having presented your views. I have only love for you. May God bless you.
Peace4everynation 4 months ago
@Peace4everynation thank you. but i felt one thing more, seeking the truth will not lead people to form a single religion. only god knows whether he came himself or he sent messengers. hindus trust in first deny other, and muslims trust second denying first. it's has more become a matter of belief now than to seek what is actual truth. so, it's better to be in beliefs. best is to respect other people's belief. i respect islam, for teaching humanity. but hinduism also teaches the same.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@Peace4everynation prophet Md.(pbuh) uncle Umar-Bine-Hassnam was a hindu&a strict worshiper of Shiva(google it).If u god is infinite then god is not too far.He is everywhere for the 1 who can c & nowhere for the 1 who cant.An atom's (nuclear bomb) energy destroyed hiroshima nagasaki by USA.How many atoms do u hav in ur body, multiply that with the power of that atomic bomb.its infinite.If god is infinite&the energy in u is in infinite, a=b, b=c;a=c.concept of 'aham brahmasmi'.
gajuambi 3 months ago
@gajuambi : Your knowledge of history is unfortunately very poor. None of the Prophet (peace be upon him)'s ancestors was ever Hindu. History does not show that there were ever any practising Hindus in Arabia, let alone Mecca, before the advent of Islam and for a long time thereafter. Your concocted formulae are nothing but an attempt to explain irrational beliefs by something tangible. They have no bearing on reality.
Peace4everynation 3 months ago
@amit101ranjan an amoeba when separates into two or many it becomes the parent of itself. The same way the trinity is defined in hinduism.The female aspect of god is called shakti(allah is another name of shakti aka durga) and siva her consort.The same way brahma, vishnu, maheshwara are just different forms of worship of one god as said in vedas.
gajuambi 3 months ago
@gajuambi: An amoeba NEEDS to multiply in order to keep its species alive. God is far, far beyond having to replicate Himself. He has all qualities imaginable, and to say that there is another one like Him is to speak of something redundant. If He needs another being, that means He suffers from some kind of weakness that the other god can help Him out. Such an idea would go viciously against the notion of God being All-Powerful, and would be an ignorant attack on His Holiness.
Peace4everynation 3 months ago
@amit101ranjan how can u say god is infinite and almight powerful but still say that earth is too far for him.nothing is too far for the almighty and if it is too far for for god then he is not almighty.krishna's dwaraka has been found in gujarat by americans under the see& they have dated it atleast 12k to 15thousand yrs old.In hinduism we have scriptures suggesting history of thousands of yrs before krishna.Islam is 1400 yrs old.the islamic founder Md.(pbuh) uncle was a hindu.u do the math.
gajuambi 3 months ago
@gajuambi: Any serious scholar of the history of Hinduism would strongly deny the "facts" you have put forward here. Nothing goes beyond 5000 years in Hinduism as we know it, and even that estimate is a very generous one. Your Americans finding a dwarka under the sea dated to 12000 years ago is an amusing story, no doubt, but it is pure fiction. Do not believe everything people tell you, my friend, and try not to divorce your beliefs from the realities of life on earth and of true history.
Peace4everynation 3 months ago
you can consider, if god takes a human form, he will be very bright, since the sky looks bright in daylight. but if you go beyond, the universe is black. when there were no stars, no galaxies, there existed only one thing and that is god. and imaging how would every thing look like? BLACK. nothing except black.. that's why god in human form has color black. that's my opinion.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@Peace4everynation u seem to answer ur own doubt. black is the color of the universe.the day starts with black(after 12am to 5am its black), the day ends as black (5pm to 12pm) in between there is light.Also the color black reflects least of the light that falls on it.color black is not a part of the VIBGYOR.color black is the biggest color since sky is actually black(even though we see it as blue due to light effect).black is the natural & real color.krishna prayed to his own form vishnu.
gajuambi 3 months ago
@gajuambi: What you are saying makes no sense here. The topic is: How can God decide to take human form as an Indian, or a Chineseman, or an African, or a Jew, and thereby anger and sadden the rest of humanity? It is impossible for God to do so. He can send messages to anyone from any nation, but He cannot show such execrable partiality by taking on the shape of a particular race of human beings. I love all races equally, and I am sure that God does too. I cannot pray to a "god" who has a race.
Peace4everynation 3 months ago
4. as far as fairness creams are concerned, they developed in west. every girl wants to look good, what's wrong in that. and even if they think that it will help in marrying a nice guy, what's wrong in that? how does it relate to religion? i can't understand. there was only one bias ever existed in indian society, and that was castism. color was never a problem.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@peace4everynation : 3. now the bias on basis of caste did to the sudra was a sideeffect of caste system, which was a problem. and we want to erase it and we will erase it very soon. so u can see, in all three comment i spoke nothing related to religion. coz it isn't. this is big sociology chapter, u can read if you are interested, but please don't mix sociology to religion.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@amit101ranjan: The damage done by religious bias towards fairer godsis immense. Their fairness is even celebrated: "Jaya Jaya Shankari, GAURI Kripakari, Dukkha nivarani, Kamakshi" (Hail Hail wife of Shankara, O YE OF FAIR COMPLEXION, full of compassion and remover of distress,Hail Kamakshi !) No wonder Indian men seeking wives specify that they want fair ones. Darker women are stigmatised, and skin-whitening creams now abound in India. God must NEVER be given any colour or feature whatsoever.
Peace4everynation 4 months ago
@amit101ranjan: I respect your right to worship whatever you please. I do not subscribe to the rationale behind worshipping something only because it was created to benefit people. For example, if a criminal gave large sums of money to the poor, would they be right to worship him? Can you worship the British for having given India the railway, the judiciary, etc.? When one pushes this argumentation too much, it goes too far. E.g. in Bihar, "Goddess English" is now being worshipped! See BBC News
Peace4everynation 4 months ago
@Peace4everynation 1. i said it earliar, and repeating it again, color bias thing has nothing to do in hindu religion. first, every person wants a beautiful women. don't people in islam want? that's what they expect when they will go to heaven. india is full of mixed complexion, and every type of societies have their own systems. you know why catism was created? to avoid this kind of thinking. the poeple in a caste used to marry girl in same caste that was a rule. this made the society strong.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@Peace4everynation second thing, i am from bihar, and i never heard such kind of goddess english term before. m listening it first time. even if it is happening, u cannot relate it anyway to hindu ideology, foolish people are everywhere. nowhere in hindu scriptures are written to designate any thing to god. hindus worship only those as devtas who are referred in scriptures.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@Peace4everynation for your first comment, i have already said that hindus worship those elements of nature whom we consider god's form, and yes their number reaches to millions. but now you are putting arguments in wrong direction. you are comparing devtas or angels to criminals or british rule, while it's cristal clear that nature do not harm in any way. they are made for our survival, not to rule us. they never demand from us, but give give and only give.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@Peace4everynation how can you compare the food which gives us life and we call it anna devta to a criminal who gave large sum of money to poor. have you realized it ever demanded anything from humans. now bad type of intake is human made, using nature against themselves to destroy themselves is human nature. can you compare the sun, whose light is responsible for life as a british rule, who took all the jewels and wealth from india? this argument is completely ridiculous.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@peace4everynation : actually these scriptures were written in very ancient times. hindu mythology denies evolution, and dates life's origin to millions of years back. divided time in four parts, satayuga, dwapara, treta, and kalyug. each parts have millions of years. and in all those time period there were only aaryans and sanatans dharma. this is kalyug and it has completed it's 5000 years. in this yug, there are so many religions. god is not unjust but giving different pathways to people.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@peace4everynation : because geeta itself is considered a word of god. naretted by lord krishna in human form and written by ved vyas.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@peace4everynation : in hinduism too, there are teachers of religion, saints. but they never claim that they are themselves blessed by god or what they are saying this is word of god. because even if they were guided to speek words of god. human memory can't go beyond his birth time. he can't memorise whom he talked before he took birth. it's impossible. hindu saints represent meaning of geeta, or preach love to god by ramayana.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@peace4everynation : but it's also a fact that if we pray to lord rama or krishna, his every elements are automatically worshipped. and thanks giving to nature is complete by worshiping to lord. and people do that, but sometimes also to devtas like a hindu shopkeeper worship money as mata lakshmi. now money is present every where but only in india it is regarded as mother. so why would god be annoyed if it is giving his element a respect which he created himself for people's benefits.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@peace4everynation : and all the forms of them are representations of them. you need not to worship them. still they will do their work, and retain the life on earth. because this is for what they are made for. now that will be hard part of humans. so , there comes pictorial representations , worships, festivals. these things complete our lives, and fill it with joy. and god never get angry on people worshiping his own elements. there is no point of being angry.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@ peace4everynation : we consider devtas to not any imaginary character of story. all devtas are directly related to some part of nature which serves us. i already gave many examples. and nature exists everywhere, so it's false that devtas are only in bharat. but then, only hindus see in nature's elements a god form. and they give respect to them, joining their hands before them, since they feel that they are indebt of them. other nations see them lifeless, but actually it isn't.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@peace4everynation : i have already said devtas are god's part. u also say angels do what evr god commands them. difference is only in that point, that in your book it is written that angels can't listen to your prayers and in my book it is written that god for every kind of needs of humans the provider of those needs are itself god's form. so we pray to nirakar brahma but also to his that form which is giving us life, like sun, water etc.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@peace4everynation i never said god never forgive our sins. it's clear in hindu religion too, that if a person shows repentance to god, then he forgive him. but there is one condition more. that he will never ever repeat the mistake in life. then only his sins are forgiven by merciful god, otherwise he will have to pay for it. it's like smoking, if i smoke, and pray to god that please god, don't harm me , m sorry for what m doing, prayer will have be meaningless. but work if i promise to quit it
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
9 @peace4everynation : morever, colour has nothing to do in hinduism. this is western ideology. in tamil people are black, but many are brahmans too. in hinduism, important thing is how much closer are you to god. since from birth of sanatana dharma, brahmans are considered to be most respectable people of society, as they are learned people. from very ancient times all discoveries in hinduism were by saints. so they are vandaniya. hope i answered everything. thank you.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
1. @amit101ranjan: It is certainly a noble attempt on your part to explain things as you see them, and I thank you for that. We can agree on some points, and at least agree to disagree on others! Islam teaches us that only part of man's life is predestined, such as: his place and time of birth, his colour, his maximum physical and spiritual capacities, etc. However, man's deeds are entirely in his control, and God, being Creator and Master of all, is not so powerless as to be obliged to let...
Peace4everynation 4 months ago
2. @amit101ranjan: ...his creatures be obliged to suffer all the consequences. For example, a mother may choose to punish her child for a misdeed. But if her child shows true repentance and regret, and asks for her forgiveness, often the mother's tenderness will make her forgive her child, and her child will love her for her kindness. Is God less merciful than a mother? Certainly not. God says: I can forgive all sins, except that of worshipping another instead of Me, your Only True benefactor...
Peace4everynation 4 months ago
3. @amit101ranjan: ...Islam teaches us that angels cannot benefit us in any way by their own will. They only act according to God's will. Indeed, we can ask, how is it that only in India people have known about all these mahadevas, devtas and devis? Do all these divine beings only bless people following dharmas of Bharat? We observe on the contrary that God has been blessing all nations and races in different ways throughout history, even though the majority knew nothing of these devtas...
Peace4everynation 4 months ago
4. @amity101ranjan: I, as a non-Indian, cannot relate to any of the idols of India, inasmuch as they have Indian features. They do not look like me or my people. Why do these devis and devtas look Indian? Where did Indians ever see the true forms of these beings? Clearly they are from the imaginations of men. I can never believe that God could take on one shape or another to show men how to behave. God cannot be kind to some and unjust to others. God SPEAKS to men whom He sends to guide nations.
Peace4everynation 4 months ago
5. @amit101ranjan: This phenomenon of God speaking to blessed individuals and sending them as messengers to their nation is a common, universal phenomenon. The only thing that all races on earth have in common is that they ALL know of One God, the Supreme Being. No two nations share knowledge of mahadevas, devtas or devis. All nations have invented their own demi-gods who only exist in their own mythology and rarely anywhere else. These beings are mistakenly given god-like powers by people...
Peace4everynation 4 months ago
6. @amit101ranjan: I myself have had many, many prayers heard, and none of them were addressed to a deva or devi. They were ALL addressed to the Supreme Being, the God who the whole of humanity has in common. God says in the Holy Qur'an: Had there been any other gods apart from Me, surely you would see them fight each other and be in conflict. This is exactly what we see in Greek, Hindu and Roman mythologies. In truth, there is only ONE BEING Who answers prayers, and that is the True God of all.
Peace4everynation 4 months ago
8 @peace4nation : aryans were more concerned for purity of religion, so much , that even different interpretation of vedas were not allowed. and they were in safe hands of saints or brahmans. since vedas were considered as god's words, and they didnot want it to be corrupted. so as shudras had no idea of sanatan dharma, they were not allowed to read it. this was the religious reason. after that whatever caste system was formed was a complete sociology and has nothing to do with religion.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
7 @peace4everynation : christianity and hinduism are very different kind of ideology. in india, after the war between aaryans ( mordern hindus ) and indus valley civilization. aaryans won the war and made them slaves. but unlike other religions they didn't imposed on them their own religion. those were called sudras, and they were free to live they way they like to. morever they were kept away from vedas, and other scriptures. since aryans had no intention of expansion by religion.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
6 @peace4everynation : i need to modify my previous comment that god can't change the fate since it's already decided. but certainly god listens to humans wish, and that too is included in fate, that where and how he will guide them. but i prefer never to demand and love god selflessly. not to blame him for miseries ( for it's of one's own sins ) , and not to forget him in happiness is most beautiful thing one can do for him.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
5 @peace4everynation : i don't think there would have been any fight among devtas themselves.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
4 @peace4everynation : for the fights among devtas. i had said at a point. god said "eko aham, bahushyamin". i continue from that. god form souls just like him with no form, and then provided them different forms, one devtas, one manushya, last danava ( evils). he formed thre different places for them to live, heaven for first, earth for manushya ( human being) and paatal for evils. now, there are stories of fights among devtas and danavas, for acquisition of haven.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
3 @peace4everynation : the example was sudama, who was extremely poor, he hadn't even food to eat. in that condition also he used to chant "shree krishna" everytime. his love for god was never lessened by poverty. but amazing thing was that he never tried to demand anything from god. not even food to eat. because he knew that the fate he is facing is result of some previous deeds, and he is paying for it. and there was no question of demanding any wish from other devtas since he had no wish.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
2. @peace4everynation : and a man's fate is decided by his previous deeds. it doesn't matter in what you believe. only thing matter is what you do. doing wrong things lead to unhappiness in life and that is fate, nobody can change it , not even god. god can only give strength to suffer the curses but can't change it. thus it's ridiculous to demand anything from god. but still people demand everytime from god. the more they go deep in religion, more love is felt and even in poverty they love him.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@peace4everynation :1.then question is why do not they call directly god for it? because god is meant to be prayed without any self motive. he can provide everything, it's true and he created those devtas only to provide people with those things which they needed. but still he don't expect any desires from people. the reason behind this fact lies in geeta. god has already decided a man's fate. it's like whatever is happening, has already happened before in some other time.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@peace4everynation : it can be misconception that one would be jealous of others worshiping, however it's not true. but will say another thing. if you are given something by someone you are indebt to him. similar thing is considered here. devtas help us to live properly and on prayer also provides prosperity, so if they provide us something, then for their happiness hindus praise them. in scriptures, it is written in detail, that which devta can provide which thing on worship, so people do that.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
hindus know who is almighty, the one who has no shape, no body and who guides us. in the same ramayana where god is said to have taken form of rama is written god has no form. so , there should not be any confusion for hinduism.
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@amit101ranjan : Yes, there should be no confusion. However, I have seen some Hindus, when they pray to a particular murthi, turn all the other murthis around, so that they do not become jealous of not being the ones addressed. If all devtas and devis were manifestations of the same God, why would one be jealous of another? Why do some fight with others? Why do some inflict suffering on others? The books of Hinduism are full of such stories of conflicts between mahadevas, devtas and devis.
Peace4everynation 4 months ago
for ex- when it doesn't rain, farmers call the god of rain "indra", to rain on their lands, since they believe he is a god's form, knowing that that almighty god is one and he has no form. it's not a sin because in their intentions they are calling a god's form and they donot think that his form is any other one than god. now, hindus bow before them because they know that these are the form due to which thay do have existence but even then they hardly build temples for them. cont..
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@amit101ranjan : It has been observed by millions of people that when God or Bhagawan is sincerely and earnestly called upon for rain, He answers that prayer. In the Ahmadiyya Muslim experience, this has been witnessed hundreds of times. In some drought-stricken areas, people request Ahmadi Muslims to pray for rain in order to prove their religion is true. Heavy rainfall usually follows, and these people then join our community. Thus, when Bhagawan answers there is no need to pray to devtas.
Peace4everynation 4 months ago
some souls were made to run the universe, those were called "devatas". these souls were given a form. the forms they were provided are many like stars ( saptarishi, dhruva are examples), water, fire, earth. sun. and the number of these "devatas" reaches to millions or more. reason why people worship them? these forms are provided with some powers and they are in universe to flourish the life on earth. when people come in difficulty they direct praise these forms to make mercy on them. cont..
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@amit101ranjan : This concept of devtas ressembles the concept of angels in Islam. In Islam also, it is taught that God created angels to run the universe. However, angels never fight with each other. They all obey God's commands. They do not compete with each other, and they do not cause harm to each other. They do not fall in love with human beings. They are in harmony. They themselves worship God, they do not wish to be worshipped. This is their nature which is explained brilliantly in Islam.
Peace4everynation 4 months ago
@Peace4everynation i don;t agree with this bit' angels don't fight with each other'
i think you will agree that there are good angel and bad angel and in actual life people are sometime possess by bad angel. to cure them some sheik use the help of good angel. you will find load of video on you tube about this
livenletlive20 3 weeks ago
@livenletlive20 : I do not know of "BAD" angels. Some Muslims believe that the word JINN refers to invisible spirits that possess people. That is total superstition. All cases of possession are psychosomatic or mental disorders. Many Mullahs and Sheikhs exploit ignorant people by making them believe in exorcisms to get their money. JINN mean many things in Arabic, including great human leaders, mountain tribes, bacteria and viruses, snakes, etc. Angels are all obedient to God.
Peace4everynation 3 weeks ago
@Peace4everynation it's not superstition. if you are a muslim you must have read that in the Quran, surat an-manl. Prophet Sulaiman had an army of birds, Jinns and man. you know what an army does. they will fight when they need to. i am writing with reference to the following commentsyou made.' they do not harm each other. They are in harmony. Superstition. mental disorders'. i have been reading all the comment on this page, i really liked them. please read on prophet Sulaiman from Quran.
livenletlive20 3 weeks ago
@livenletlive20 : Jinn are in fact men of the upper classes. The Qur'an says: "Rijaalun min-al-Jinn" - "Men from among the Jinn". The upper classes usually stay "hidden" from public view, in their mansions and palaces, and this is why in Arabic they are called JINN, which means "hidden". If they are Rijaal then they are human. Also, you never find any mention of Jinn in Paradise, you only find humans mentioned. So the Jinn who go there are nothing but upperclass human beings.
Peace4everynation 3 weeks ago
since it was easy for people to love god in a from, they did that. they started worshiping god in form of rama and krishna. now , why they worship many god? god made many forms of him to run this universe. somewhere it is written , god said "eko aham, bahushyamin". eko aham means i am one, ( islam says god is one and hinduism teaches the same), bahushyamin means i will be many. then he created souls, which were his parts and they themselves had no form. they had the same features like god. cont
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
hinduism definitely preaches that god has no form or face ( nirguna ). he is almighty, creator of universe. and then it says that to destroy evil and save the saints he took a form of human being and came to earth. believing on his powers he could do that, and then he preached humans some lessons, written in ramayana and gita. ramayana teaches how to be a nice human, and geeta explains further how to reach god after death, meaning "mukti", which is not heaven but for reunion to god. cont....
amit101ranjan 4 months ago
@amit101ranjan : The belief that God, having no form, still somehow takes a human form, is a very dangerous one. Look at the evils perpetrated against dark races by Trinitarian Christianity, for example. I believe that Christ was indeed a man of truth sent by God. However, when his followers decided in the 4th Century AD that "Christ is God in human form", all dark nations were then forced to bow down to a God who is a white man. This has led dark races to be mentally enslaved by Europeans.
Peace4everynation 4 months ago
2. @amit101ranjan: The terrible results of such mental slavery by people who cannot understand why God would choose to take on one human form and not another, are there for all to see. See the social conditions faced daily by African-Americans, who have been subjected to atrocious racism which ALL stems from a belief that God chose to appear as a white man, giving white men a feeling of superiority. In India also, whiter people have always felt superior to darker people for similar reasons.
Peace4everynation 4 months ago
3. @amit101ranjan: I highly recommend the documentary "The Modern Racist Paradigm", which explores the evils born out of one culture imposing their colour in their religion, art, fashion, etc., on another colour of human beings. It is an eye-opener. All religions should abandon worshipping their human forms of God and stick to worshipping God in His Formlessness and Invisibility. Worshipping God as an Invisible Being prevents some nations from feeling that God looks more like them than others.
Peace4everynation 4 months ago
4. @amit101ranjan: And the link to this documentary is w w w (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=ze5ShGiF6C0
Peace4everynation 4 months ago
People like with understanding will make the world a better place. Sita Ram! Sita Ram!
aartisingh1 4 months ago
@aartisingh1 : Thank you for your generous comment and may Bhagawan bless you and your family.
Peace4everynation 4 months ago
hinduism is the truth
jayd4ever 7 months ago
@jayd4ever : Every dharma or religion contains some form of truth. It is for people to correctly understand that truth and not to let illusions mask their understanding. Also, people must continue to humbly beg God to guide them to all truth, and should not fall into the arrogance of thinking that they already know all truth.
Peace4everynation 4 months ago
You did excellent studies on religions. May Allah bless you.
srkb001 7 months ago
islam is opposed to the worship of any other god than the 1 god whom created the heavens and earth, anything in partners, as brothers,sisters whatever it may be is completely forbidden and will place you in the hellfire.
Hindus worship many gods thus they are not our(abrahamic monotheists) brothers or sisters in faith.
2ndT0M3h 8 months ago
@2ndT0M3h: Although Hindus apparently worship many gods, in fact these "gods" often turn out to be prophets sent by God for the guidance of the people of India, or saints or angels or holy men and women, reverence towards whom eventually turned into worship. Nevertheless, Hindus do believe and acknowledge the Supreme Being Who is the same God as the one Muslims believe in. Please note that many Muslims also worship prophets, saints and holy men and women these days, asking for favours from them.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
@Peace4everynation
Did you miss the bit in my comment that says NO PARTNERS,BROTHERS,SISTERS to god.
Sorry but i really dont show mercy to any1 trying to justify or sympathise or even worse advertise idol worship nevertheless put believers on the same rank as disbelievers.
Its just deceiving the people and plainly untrue in every sense.
2ndT0M3h 8 months ago
@2ndT0M3h: True Muslims would never worship anyone apart from the One God Who created the universe. However, millions of Muslims nowadays go to the tombs of prophets and saints to beg for favours from them. If you were unaware of this, then I suggest you research this topic. It is a well-known fact. And it is very unfortunate. But every religion has gone down this track of ascribing divine powers to mortal beings. Nevertheless, all human beings are our brothers and sisters. We must love everyone
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
@Peace4everynation
Im not talking about followers, im talking about the religion itself. Pagenism is pagenism doesn't matter what cover you try to place on it.
Also there must be a balance, having love for everything and anything is just crazy, we must learn to love for the sake of god what is good and hate for the sake of god what is evil.
Having said this the similiarities between islam and hinduism are so minor due to the main factor(monotheism) being comprimised in hinduism.
2ndT0M3h 8 months ago
@2ndT0M3h: We are taught to love people as human beings, but to hate the evil that they commit. There is a great divide between some of the rites of Islam and the Dharmas of India. However, a deeper study of their key elements will reveal more similarities than meet the eye. The philosophy of Karma is similar to the Islamic belief in reward and punishment for one's deeds. Reincarnation is a different interpretation of being reborn spiritually. God is One. Avatars reflect God just as Prophets do.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
@2ndT0M3h: We must strive to find common points and to discuss our differences in a loving and intellectual atmosphere. It does no one any good to pontificate on what people having a superficial vision of things think to be insuperable chasms that separate us. Reaching out to one's brothers and sisters is vital in order to establish world peace. I personally find that by concentrating on our common points and intellectually discussing our differences, we can increase goodwill in the world.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
@Peace4everynation
how does that relate to pagenism and monotheism?
are you saying we comprimise until we reach a common ground?
2ndT0M3h 8 months ago
@2ndT0M3h: Who is saying anything about compromise? There are already many common points between us. There is no need to compromise our beliefs and practices, just a need to have open-mindedness instead of that condemning and unforgiving attitude which so characterises the extremist Mullahs and self-styled Islamic scholars of today.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
@Peace4everynation
but what i am saying is that monotheists do not build bridges with pagens; faith wise. It is a form of deception. We could have gatherings and debate like civilised people and share beliefs(which is open-mindedness) but when it comes to apologetic forms of justifying a pagen religion and bringing it on the same planes as a monotheistic religion than i am completely opposed.
We could share many virtues written within scriptures but we sure as hell arent the same.
2ndT0M3h 8 months ago
@2ndT0M3h: First of all, not all Hindus are idolaters. Secondly, there is no question of us attempting to justify paganism. However, people are free to explain why they do certain things. That is the freedom that everyone must enjoy. Then, we can debate the philosophy of these forms of worship and these beliefs in a friendly fashion. Some forms of idolatry are very subtle. If you study carefully, you will find that monotheists now also attribute supernatural qualities to certain human beings.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
@Peace4everynation
1. Tell me of which hindus that are not pagen and tell me the origins of this monotheistic belief(if it is withing their beliefs).
2.What followers of a religion do accounts to nothing when judging the religion. We speak about the religion not followers.
To say monotheists now attribute supernatural qualities to certain beings elludes to the fact that................ well, i have no clue what it elludes to, TELL ME PLEASE.
2ndT0M3h 7 months ago
@2ndT0M3h: The Arya Samajis, for instance. And there is the Vaishna monotheism, of which Krishnaism is well known. The nature of the One God is seen quite differently by Jews, Christians and Muslims of all their different sects. Similarly, the understanding of the nature of the One God in monotheistic Hindu sects varies. Using the same Vedic texts, monotheistic Hindus understand that there is one God. This is the same as the Bible. Most Christians see Trinity where others see absolute Unity.
Peace4everynation 7 months ago
2. @2ndT0M3h: In the Qur'an, the Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) says: "Holy is my Lord! Am I anything but a man, a messenger?" when idolaters ask him to go up into the sky and come back down again. This shows that Islam is RATIONAL. But then so-called scholars of Islam come and tell the world that Muhammad (pbuh) DID go to the heaven PHYSICALLY during his Mi'raj and Israa!!! So, who do we believe? These are the types of supernatural natures attributed by misguided monotheists to human beings .
Peace4everynation 7 months ago
@Peace4everynation
lol how does that even relate to this discussion? it means nothing what the followers do when we are talking about a RELIGION.
However thankyou for enlightening me to the arya samajis who constitute 4 million in number and are the only real monotheistic group i read about, the vaishna have multiple deities.
Please show me in mainstream hindu scriptures where god is stated as only one as is seen in the quran.
2ndT0M3h 7 months ago
@2ndT0M3h : I agree that it is the religion itself that must be studied. But when the INTERPRETATION of the sciprtures is made by followers with poor insight, and who are irrational, they can twist the meanings being presented to the world. Christ said nothing of being God and he never told people to worship him. Yet, Biblical scripture is interpreted by many Christians to mean Christ is God...(continued...)
Peace4everynation 7 months ago
2. @2ndT0M3h: Similarly, in the Qur'an, Allah says that He does TAWAFFA in only TWO ways: Either on SOULS (not bodies) in SLEEP, or on SOULS at the time of DEATH. Then those souls decreed to live are sent back to their bodies, and those decreed to die and witheld and are not sent back. Yet, almost all of the 1.6 billion Muslims today believe that when Allah did TAWAFFA on Jesus (pbuh), He also TOOK HIS BODY!!! This is how religious scripture is true, but its monotheistic followers still deviate.
Peace4everynation 7 months ago
3. @2ndT0M3h: "There is none to compare with Him. There is no parallel to Him, whose glory, verily, is great." (Yajur Veda 32.3)
"The One Truth, sages know by many names" (Rig Veda 1.164.46)
Look up MONOTHEISM IN HINDUISM.
Peace4everynation 7 months ago
@2ndT0M3h: In the Nyaya Kusumanjali, against the the Mimamsa school saying there were many demigods (devas) and sages (rishis) who wrote the Vedas and created the world" we read:
"[if there are] other beings...capable of creating everything, we reply that the law of parsimony bids us assume only one such, namely Him, the adorable Lord. There can be no confidence in a non-eternal and non-omniscient being." Unlike the Qur'an, many verses of the Vedas are often interpreted to imply polytheism.
Peace4everynation 7 months ago
@Vedantka: I agree that God is God and all other beings are completely distinct from Him. This is exactly what the Holy Qur'an teaches us. God manifests Himself in different perfect people on earth, at different times and epochs, in order to guide people back to true Dharma (true religion) and to give them the victory over Adharma (irrleigion). These people are NOT God, but they reflect God's qualities in them. Sri Krishna Ji Maharaj and Sri Rama Chandra Ji Maharaj were among these great people.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
This comparison between Hinduism & Islam is absolutely in favor of Hinduism.The choice of words in the Om Jai Jagdish Hare prayer & the words from Quaran,the depth of the meaning,etc simply cannot be compared.Quaran looks here as if a child tried to be a professor(in spiritual science).Sorry it is absolutely not for me!
Vedantka 8 months ago
@Vedantka: My dear, a simple comparison has been made here, but remember we are not comparing 2 revealed scriptures here. This prayer is a recent poetic composition, and there are many such poetic compositions so full of meaning written by Muslims of the recent centuries that one is absolutely transported by the extasy they create in the soul. They are based on the Qur'an, just as this Om Jai Jagdish Hare is based on the Vedas and Gita. One cannot compare revealed scripture with poetic prayers.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
2. @Vedantka: Also, I had only taken out snippets of verses from the Qur'an to show that this Hindi prayer bears many parallels with Quranic verses. It would be unwise to think that the small portions of Quranic verses presented here are being strung together to form a song. This is not at all the case. Most people viewing this video had understood that. The profound meanings, the music within the language in the Quran and its cadence and rhythm move those who understand them to tears of love.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
Also submission has very different emotional association than surrender.Surrender is ONLY out of LOVE,submission is more like out of fear or recognition that you can not win with all powerful God.Hinduism teaches that there is a way to win over God and that is through selfless Love for Him.It is called bhakti.
Vedantka 8 months ago
@Vedantka: You have misunderstood Islam, my dear. It seems you get your information from extremist Muslims or Fox News. Extremists, fanatics and intolerant people can NEVER be those to be trusted if you want to understand the religion they wrongly say they belong to. The whole story of submission to God in Islam is based on Love! The notion of fear in Islam is that one fears to behave badly to one's Beloved for fear of losing His love. It is not a fear like the fear one has of ferocious beasts.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
2. @Vedantka: In Islam, the true servants and devotees of God are those who are said to love Him more than their own selves, than their families and their wealth. God's love is won through sincere devotion and following the beautiful teachings of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), who spoke respectfully of Krishna (peace be upon him) calling him Kahina, the Arabic for Kanhaiyya. We Muslims pray only to God, just as Krishna prayed. Bhagwan never prays as He is beyond having needs.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
@Peace4everynation Krishna is God and He prayed NOT because He had some need BUT to show people the way by His own example.God does things NOT out of need but out of compassion for us.Humans can never understand God,only Saints do as their minds became divine by God's grace.So only Saints properly interpret even Vedic Scriptures.
Vedantka 8 months ago
@Vedantka: Krishna had need for a son, and he prayed to Shiva to obtain that son. Nowhere is it written that he prayed "only to show people the way by his own example". That is pure conjecture on your part. Krishna was a true Sakar Swaroopa of Bhagwan, but that does not make him into Bhagwan. Bhagwan, the Real God, NEVER prays to anything, as you will read in the true writings of the Vedas. Sakar Swaroopas are important as we can see in them the true IMAGE of God. We cannot see God directly.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
@Vedantka: When it is written: "Krishnastu Bhagawan swayam" - Krishna is God - it only means that the image of God reflected in Krishna's personality is so perfect that it is as if we are seeing God Himself. This is exactly what is taught in the Bible: God created Man in His Own Image. And the Holy Prophet Muhammad said that God becomes the servant whom He loves. It is as if one sees God in a mirror. However, ignorant people begin to worship the mirror image instead of worshipping the Real God.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
0:40 is very wrongly expressed.It is only the UNDERSTANDING of ONE God that divides humanity.Hindus also believe in ONE God but they understand that God can do whatever He wishes with HIS unlimited powers,so many deities are no problem for Hindus.They are problem to ignorant & confused Christians & Muslims as they are not able to see behind their narrow-minded dogmatic religions the vastness & completeness of Vedic presentation of God.
Vedantka 8 months ago
@Vedantka: When people confuse perfect reflections of God, whether they are Rishis or Avatars or Saints or angels called Devas, Devtas and Devis in the Dharmas of India, they do not realise that each person who is a Sakar Swaroopa or physical form reflecting God is just like a bright mirror, in which the reflection of Bhagwan can be seen. So, ignorant people begin to be devoted to the mirror instead of being devoted to Bhagwan. ALL Rishis, Avatars, Devas and Devis depend on Almighty Bhagwan.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
2. @Vedantka: You should try to see beyond the Arya Varta, and not believe that true Dharma has been granted only to the people of Bharat. The Holy Qur'an is the ONLY revealed book which declares that God is the God of ALL UNIVERSES, of ALL PEOPLES, of ALL MANKIND. In the Holy Qur'an, God says that there is not a single people on earth who did not receive messengers from God procaliming the eternal truth to them and warning them to be careful about their Karma, as they will reap what they sow.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
@Peace4everynation Absolutely NOT true,have you read Bhagaved-Gita where Shri Krishna Himself says He is the Lord of all existence.The law of karma would be absurd & totally incomplete without the law of reincarnation.A man is born blind because he reaps what he sow in previous life & not because God for some unknown reason wants to test him or sth like that.Only Vedic Scriptures have a science of God & us as souls and they present complete spiritual philosophy.
Vedantka 8 months ago
@Vedantka: When Krishna says he is Lord of all existence, Jesus says that he and the Father are One, Muhammad says that God becomes the servant He loves, all these are expressions of close proximity which cannot be taken literally. Bhagwan is NOT born on earth. He does NOT pray. He does NOT eat or drink or sleep like weak human beings do. But God manifest Himself in perfect devotees and makes them into His true image on earth, His Sakar Swaroopas. Ignorant ones mistake Sakar Swaroopas for God.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
2. @Vedantka: The law of Karma is found in all true religions, where a human being is rewarded or punished for his or her deeds committed during their lifetime on earth. It will be great injustice if a person cannot remember what evils they had committed previously. How will they know how to stop doing these evils in their next life? I cannot remember anything form any previous life. So how will I avoid repeating any old evils? Karma can function perfectly within 1 lifetime which man remembers.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
One God does NOT mean that He can have only one form.God has ONE original form BUT He can take as many forms as He wishes & He is simultaneously formless.The great tragedy of Islam is that your self proclaimed human prophet tried to limit God(to the word ONE),the ONE who is absolutely LIMITLESS & Who can do things unimaginable to us.No form can limit Him & His glory;ALL His forms are Divine & complete in Themselves.Once humans try to explain God,the result is ignorance=fanaticism+intolerance.
Vedantka 8 months ago
@Vedantka: It is not right for you to come here and accuse me of belonging to ignorant, fanatic, intolerant Muslims. That is very impolite of you, and in fact very ignorant, fanatic and intolerant of YOU. The rude affront you have shown does not reflect the great the moral qualities taught by Sri Krishna Ji Maharaj. Calling the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) a "self-proclaimed prophet" is pure narrow-mindedness that you are displaying. My many sincere Hindu friends are not like you.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
2. @Vedantka: You do not understand the meaning of ONENESS of God. All true religions teach that God is ONE. That does not mean that He does not manifest Himself in many forms. All creatures reflect Bhagwan to some degree, and the perfect people who surpass all others in their devotion and worship of Bhagwan become His Sakar Swaroopas, who are such perfect reflections of Bhagwan that ignorant ones begin to believe that the Sakar Swaroopas are God themselves. And they worship them ignorantly.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
@Vedantka: Mahatma Gandhi wrote of Muhammad (peace be upon him): "It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet, the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission...When I closed the second volume (of the Prophet's biography), I was sorry there was not more for me to read of that great life." (published in 'Young India,'1924)
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
@Peace4everynation Sorry but Gandhi's opinion on Muhammad is of no value to me.The history shows the real face of Islam which is literally soaked in blood of millions of innocent people who lost their lives during Islamic conquests & their rule in India.I do not believe in prophets,I believe in Saints who are ALWAYS present on Earth to guide those who are ready to surrender,all Saints ALWAYS thought the same:that a path to God is through bhakti=loving devotion to a chosen form of God.
Vedantka 8 months ago
@Vedantka: Mahatma Gandhi Ji's opinion is of great value to millions of people. It is your right to disregard it. I, however, am of the opinion that he was a far wiser man than you are. He never pompously told anyone that they had got it all wrong, that they were ignorant, or that their religious leader was a "self-appointed prophet" as you have arrogantly doen. The first lesson of Bhakti is to be humble, and you have shown that this is a quality you severely lack. You should reform your soul.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
@Peace4everynation For me Mahatma Gandhi didn't practice Vedic Dharma at all,he used fasting for political manipulation& that's against the Scriptures.Also his non-violence policy was crazy as non-violence to your enemy causes only more violence & this was proven during partition.Yes,you have to be humble but it doesn't mean that you cannot have a clear opinion on different matters.I don't believe that there is such a thing like prophets of God.I believe ONLY in saints who are God realized souls
Vedantka 8 months ago
@Vedantka: Mahatma Gandhi practised Dharma according to his own understanding. In the Sanatan Dharma, it is well known that अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथीव च "Ahimsa Paramo Dharma; Dharma himsa tathaiva cha." "Non-violence is the ultimate dharma. So too is violence in service of Dharma." This is the religion of all Prophets of God too, whether you want to call them Saints or Avatars or Rishis is up to you. Prophets only take up arms when Bhagwan orders them to protect the faith from attack.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
2. @Vedantka: Moreover, this jewel of misinformation you have put forward, that "millions of people lost their lives during Islamic conquests" is such a gross exaggeration that it does not even merit an answer. In the beginning, Islam was under severe attack by all nations around it including by the Arab idolaters themselves. All battles fought by the Holy Prophet were in self-defence, and after 13 long years of atrocious persecution and killings of innocent and defenceless Muslims.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
@Peace4everynation It is not exaggeration at all.Only in India almost 80 millions people lost their lives during Islamic conquests & ruling.Obviously we have different sources of information.My country=Poland always had to fight hard to survive Islamic aggressors & we won.It was our King Jan Sobieski who totally destroyed Turkish army in the battle of Vienna,September11/12/1683.So in Poland we were told quite different history of Islam, not censored by Islamic scholars.You believe what you want.
Vedantka 8 months ago
@Vedantka: 80 million people lost their lives during Islamic conquests??? Your sources of information must be ultra-nationalist racists my dear. That figure is absolutely false!!! I do not deny that thousands lost their lives during the 800 years of Muslim rule in India. But it is also true that the Muslims there did not try to convert the populations. It was wandering Sufis and merchants who brought Islam as a religion to Hindus, who were only too glad to be freed from the racist Caste system.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
2. @Vedantka: I have already told you that if Muslims carried out political conquests, you should not condemn ISLAM for that. That would be like condemning Jesus for the Crusades, for the two World Wars and for the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade!!! Keep politics and religion apart. Previously, Aryans had invaded India, killing and pushing the Dravidian original Indians down to the South. The oldest cities on the Sindh River of Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro were Dravidian cities. Aryans displaced them.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
3. @Vedantka: What Muslim Kings born centuries after the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) did later, were political wars, even if they were labelled as Islamic, which they were not in reality. Every people on earth has committed atrocities against other nations, including Hindus. Are not Hindus killing and raping Muslims in Kashmir, and blowing up Buddhists in Sri Lanka today? But we do NOT condemn the Sanatan Dharm or the Arya Dharm or any Dharm for what these Hindus do. You just hate Islam.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
@Peace4everynation Hindus never conquered other lands for spreading their religion,their tolerance is more than obvious BUT tolerance should be ONLY practice towards those who reciprocate with the same,otherwise tolerance will be suicidal for the culture.I really believe in Kashmir the story is totally other way around,so the Muslims kill & rape Hindus as in Pakistan.I don't hate Islam BUT I believe Islam is a big thread to anyone who is not into it.Once you are majority the true face comes out.
Vedantka 8 months ago
@Vedantka: I already told you that Aryan Hindus conquered India, destroying Dravidians and forcing them to go South. Yes, I agree with you that tolerance should go both ways, and I agree with you that the fanatic Islam being practised today by many Muslims and the fanatic Hinduism being practixed by extremist Hindus is a threat to peace in the world. All good, peace-loving people of the world must join forces to combat fanaticism and extremism in EVERY religion and EVERY political sphere.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
@Peace4everynation Christianity has changed methods but is still very much focused on conversions.And Islam is totally intolerant towards other beliefs,what clearly shows in countries like Saudi Arabia,Pakistan,Iran,Egypt,etc.There is NOT one majority Islamic country where people are free to practice their religion.
Vedantka 8 months ago
@Vedantka: Muslim countries of today have been profoundly influenced by misguided souls such as Abu'l A'la Maududi, Muhammad ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab and others, who had a very rigid, unkind and intolerant understanding of Islam. Muslim countries are NOT representative of the RELIGION of Islam. To think so would be ignorance. The Muslim Messiah, Ghulam Ahmad (peace be upon him) was sent to bring people back to peace. Read his book: w w w (dot) alislam (dot) org/library/books/Message-of-Peace.pdf
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
Beautiful
KatrinaJade22 9 months ago
@KatrinaJade22: Thank you :o) God bless you and your near and dear ones.
Peace4everynation 9 months ago
@Peace4everynation Right Back At You.. World Would Be A Much Nicer Place With More People Like You, Who Take The Time To Look Behind Different Cultures And Religions And Just Celebrate Being Human ..I Only Wish More And More People Saw The Similarities, There Would Be Alot Less Confrontation Between Muslims And Hindus.
KatrinaJade22 9 months ago
@KatrinaJade22 : I am very touched by your beautiful compliment... I am certain that you are one of those people who look for similarities and beauty in everything too! Most people on earth are good-natured and want to live peacefully and justice with everyone else. This is perhaps reflected in the fact that so far 20 have liked this video and only 2 haven't :o) Let us hope that the day comes soon when all nations can see that they are just one family, so that love and peace can reign at last.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
@Peace4everynation Are u trying to convince me what real islam is when the majority of the Muslims do not even recognize you guys as Muslims!! I even saw a site where i have seen bad stuff written about the founder of the ahmeddan movement (not an orientalist site or an evangelist site but a Muslim one)!!
mmajonson 8 months ago
@mmajonson: Ahmadiyya Muslims have accepted the Muslim Messiah whose advent had been predicted by the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), and for that reason all other Muslims despise and condemn us, just like all the Jews despised and condemned those who believed Jesus (peace be upon him) was the true Messiah for the Israelites. If you choose to believe in "bad stuff" written by people filled with hatred against the Ahmadiyya or against Islam, then that is your right, but it is not wise.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
@Peace4everynation Like i said why dont you prove to me that I have been mislead by the so called "bad writings" of "people filled with hatred" .. I have seen both sides of the argument and have chosen the one that I seem perfectly sound...now if that does not agree with your conscience then I am sorry ,I did not mean to hurt you but I was just trying to tell others of what I think the truth is ....feel free to prove me wrong...lets start with Islam in general being the religion of PEACE!!
mmajonson 8 months ago
@mmajonson: Atheists have been responsable for the killing of the greatest number of people on earth by such a large margin, that I am amazed that an atheist can come here and criticise Islam for its supposed violence. Hitler, Stalin and Mao Tse Tung were all atheists. Just go and read the figures for the millions of innocent people who died because of them. That is what happens when people leave God and true religious morality: they eventually cease to have any empathy for others.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
@mmajonson : Read this short book written by our Holy Founder on Jihad, then tell me if your "answeringislam" friends' facts on Islam were correct. It's easy to condemn and to arrogantly think one knows it all, isn't it? More sagacious people calmly study things before arriving at conclusions, and do not come to launch attacks like the one you have done, trying to pollute the friendly atmosphere between Hindus and Muslims. w w w (dot) alislam (dot) org/library/books/BritishGovt-and-Jihad.pdf
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
@Uploader: My true Islamic friend explained me about the Prophet and Black Stone theory when I enquired him. Why does Quran says "Pathway to the sky". I just wonder for whom they were trying to make a space way or path into the space? Is it to meet the Aliens or is it the Aliens who wanted to go back to their world in space? If I am still misunderstood of a mere human, I am sorry to say your religions and Gods certainly don't exist. Even if they had existed, it is for some or someone's reason.
designerztouch 9 months ago
@designerztouch: The black stone is nothing but a meteorite, one of the original stones used by Abraham (peace be upon him) to build the Ka'bah, or House of God, in Mecca, also called the Valley of Baca in the Bible and Bakkah in the Qur'an. Our God certainly exists and He speaks to whomsoever He pleases. For a recent example of how God spoke to someone in India, I invite you to read:
w w w (dot) alislam (dot) org/library/browse/book/Tadhkirah/#page/-19/mode/1up
Peace4everynation 9 months ago
@Peace4everynation that the black stone was used by Abraham is not proven,its only mentioned in the Quran and that the valley of baca in the bible is not Mecca can be understood by reading the entire passage of the Bible.u seem to be reading stuff according to how it suites u .From what I have studied about Islam ,it is far from being the religion of peace(there are conditions!)it commands followers to spread the message and if refused to use the sword! I'll be amazed if u cud prove me wrong
mmajonson 8 months ago
@mmajonson: How do you suggest we prove that Abraham did use the black stone? Does it have to be in the Bible? So if it's in the Bible it's true, but if not it's untrue? How childish! You can interpret "baca" as you prefer; the reality is that it is the same place as Bakkah in Arabia. Your conclusions on Islam only show that you have been studying it either from extremist Muslims or vicious anti-Islam evangelists and orientalists. You're welcome to visit my channel for true information on Islam.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
@Peace4everynation When did i say that if its in the Bible it should be true or else its not??? Please dont try to put words into my mouth !! Since u say that I am having a wrong messed up extremist notion of Islam how about U & I have a discussion and try to prove to each other who is right or wrong?? I have studied Islam both ways you know and i have found that Muslims tend to distort the facts,I would appreciate it if u could show me otherwise and prove that it indeed is a religion of peace!
mmajonson 8 months ago
@mmajonson: "Muslims tend to distort the facts" is a gross over-generalisation. Everyone who is insincere and who argues just for the sake of argument, tends to distort the facts, as they have an agenda.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
@Peace4everynation and where did you get the false notion that baca is the mecca?? I will send you a refutation to this claim that a msg to ur inbox ...hope you get the time to go through it!!
mmajonson 8 months ago
@Peace4everynation what do you mean that I was studying it from a extremists??? So now there are many Islams??? Extremist Islam,moderate Islam, Slightly less moderate Islam?? Allah forbids the followers to deviate even a little from the Quran and going by your views you r guilty of Riba !! I still ask you to prove to me that I am wrong!!
mmajonson 8 months ago
@mmajonson: Riba? Riba means "interest" in a financial sense. You have just shown your knowledge of Islam is very sketchy.
Peace4everynation 8 months ago
I am a Hindu Brahmin and still I don't accept the fact of GOD as such created every thing. To all you religious radicals, wait till you discover Aliens and their preaching to Humans for this much evolution and development of Human beings. Certainly Science has nt influenced me to ask and talk like this as even Science and Religion has failed repeatedly to answer some questions about Ancient life on earth.But almost everywer around the world, there are some forms of Alien depiction. Co-Incidence?
designerztouch 9 months ago
@designerztouch: It is interesting that you should mention aliens. Although I don't believe they have already reached earth - otherwise, it would be in the headlines of the news in every country - I do believe that one day we will meet alien creatures, as per the promise made by God in the Qur'an: "And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and of whatever living creatures He has spread forth in both. And He has the power to gather them together when He will so please."
Peace4everynation 9 months ago
@Peace4everynation I have seen many Historian's and Ancient Astronaut theorist's study and analysis of Holy books like Revelation, Genesis. Its just not more than questionable blunders present in it. Almost all the books has some common facts such as Guardians, Messengers, Angels from the sky came into earth and taught us religion, maths, physics, astrology, agriculture. MY question is how exactly every religion point the same. Were our historians wrong ? Did they misunderstand Aliens as Gods?
designerztouch 9 months ago
@Peace4everynation I am not here to bash anyone's belief. So I would not like to hurt anyone. But I just want to question some of the things our modern day educated people has failed to think about God and Religion. And which world are you living in ? Have not you seen or heard about the incidents like Roswell, Crawford, Nuremburg, Moscow, Mexico, Los Angeles, and many more UFO sightings that are scientifically proven that it is true but they did not have any idea what it is. Indeed we have
designerztouch 9 months ago
Anyone who reads my comments on questions such as Aliens, Gods will make them laugh at me. I wont be surprised because I think I can think beyond the truth and search for hidden truth and facts. I just laugh at anyone who does not question religions and Gods for not being unique. Although every religion has their different form of God, why is that their life has to same or similar?Krishna, Jesus, Moses, Budha all seen with cattles. Its certainly not Co-incidence.
designerztouch 9 months ago
2. @designerztouch: If you would like to read more on the Qur'an and extraterrestrial life, I highly recommend this link: w w w (dot) alislam (dot) org/library/books/revelation/part_4_section_7.html
Peace4everynation 9 months ago