@vhayes8886 The return trip is impossible, but if you killed your grandfather as he went forward in time you never existed, and then you couldn't have killed your grandfather.
@vhayes8886 What I mean is that if you go backwards in time to kill your grandfather, you never existed right? Now, if your grandfather were to go forward in time, but he got killed, but you killed him, you also would have never existed. Am I correct?
I just realized something. Forward time travel is just as impossible as backwards time travel! Say your grandfather were to go forward in time. Then you kill him. The same logic used in the grandfather paradox to the rest of this.
So basically if I went to the past and killed my grandpa before he met my grandma I wouldn't exist and would go to a parallel universe? Or should I never have been born at all. Cuz if I killed my grandpa before then then I couldn't have killed him since I don't exist but that wouldn't be possible since I am here now!??? Right? I'm 16 shut up
The moment his grandfather broke his neck it created a parallel universe in which the grandfather that died was the grandfather of his parallel self. Since the past is fixed his grandfather still lived, and so he was able to be born. He was only able to create a parallel reality in which the alternate him wouldn't be born.
in the theoy that past cant be changed, you always return to the past, but the events will most likely ended in that you can born, and u will return.....
like twelve monkeys... this is what i think it could be.....PAST CANT CHANGE
i like the theory that past cant change, so if u return to the past and kill your granpa, there is still "some way" to u to exist so u can return, maybe that guy wasnt your grandpa, or u try kill him and fail, but you "must" exist in some way to return to the past and try to "change it".....
My theory of the paradox is: (may be very stupid coming from a 14year old)
You kill your grandpa, and you start disappearing because you were "never born". Then your grandpa is alive again and the place you're in is "affected", because you didn't kill him yet. Then you pop back into time and you kill him and it all starts over.
By going back in time and killing your grandfather wouldn't you have created an alternate time line through the 4th dimension which wouldn't effect you yourself in the future, but you would have not really changed anything because the 10th dimension contains all possible outcomes, and you not being born would be of the possible outcomes of the world so if the tenth dimension does exist then there most likely is a version of ourselves who kills our grandfather. so you wouldn't disappear.
@John35182 by the laws of quantum physics you jus created that possibility by the mere thought. thx now all of us has a lunatic time traveling self killing off grandfather after grandfather,ah more paradox's lol.
@MushWorm No matter what he do there will be an alternate timeline created so no matter how many times he kills off his Grandpa he will exist in a alternate reality
If I didn't exist, and, like in this video, everything I touched in the parallel universe I was in didn't effect the real world, I would do so many things. For example, sexually exploit people, take things, and do whatever else.
Time, as the majority of humans see it, does not exist. Time is just a series of "nows." The only way our simple minds, which we only use 10% of in our lifetime, can understand them is to put these "nows" into a timeline. Think about it. Time and space are scientifically considered the same thing, called the space-time continuum. If you go to a place that something happened in a "past now," like the place where Neil Armstrong stepped on the moon, that is also the same time.
wait wait wait!if he killed his gramps and stop'd him from pregnating his gran then he wouldnt have been born and couldnt go back in time to kill alex and stop all thos other dude and chiks from being born!!!so....HUH?
the grand father paradox is absurd nonsense I laugh at it when in get confused goes against common sense and logical its nonsense the one time line become a snake that bit its own tail off then swallowed itself hole LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! he first will always existed now he was NEVER born instantaneously at the same exact time LMAO i ithink going back would allow the MWI
There was too much wording so when you read my intersting comments, read FROM TOP TO BOTTOM (under this comment). I guarantee my comments are all pretty interesting.. :)
First of all, time-travel is possible ( proven by Albert Einstein) either by traveling through a worm-hole, exceeding the speed of light, or going into the center of a black hole where matter is so dense that the space-time continuum stops.
So look it's like this: Everytime you travel back in time the original time-line splits into two (e.g. like a stream) and you create a new time-line starting from the date you travelled back to.
So look it's like this: Everytime you travel back in time the original time-line splits into two (e.g. like a stream) and you create a new time-line starting from the date you travelled back to. So if you killed your grandfather: You would exist in the original time-line, but you would be dead in the second one you created by traveling back in time, therefore there would be no point as you would continue existing in the original time-line.
slight problem here...if he existed out of the frame of reality, how would he have killed himself? it would be impossible...so thins video is a paradox...
I think the answer to this is down to determinism and cause and effect. There is only a problem if you have an infantile/religious understanding of free will.
It would be impossible for a person to be motivated to kill their own grandfather. If you did succeed you'd discover that the man you killed was in fact, not your grandfather.
If you accept that we live in a determined universe (not predetermined) and we don't have free will, then it makes sense that a causal chain cannot be broken.
Most sci-fi authors completely screw up the entire concept of time travel.
1. you continue to exist, due to the fact that you were never born to kill your grandfather in the first place.
2. The grandmother marries another man, and your genetic code and memories are rewritten, according to the other conceptual parents design. Yet if your genetic code is re-written, perhaps that may have effects on your mannerisms, and you never go back to kill your father in the first place. Then you still stay yourself, but still kill him.
That makes no sense. If you have different dna then it isn't you it's someone else. Memories are not 're-writen' the original ones just never existed.
If you succeed in killing your grandfather you cease to exist and then can't have killed your grandfather so you exist and kill your grandfather and then don't and don't... That's why it's called a paradox
Assuming I went back in time and killed my grandpa before he had my dad. Wouldnt it mean that I would just have a diffrent father. It would mean my mother had me with someone else?
So therefore the grandpa paradox should be replaced with the father/mother paradox.
I don't think it would work like that because, I think the grandfather paradox is a contradiction cause if you were to kill your grandfather then it would be impossible because if he was killed you would never be born so you being there at that time would contradict the fact that you would never be born cause in fact you would be there killing him. Yes confusing I know lol and this movie was good because I believe it explains the grandfather paradox very well
theres like four answears to this souch as a parralel universe a continuse chane the inabillity to change what has already been set(destiny) and the time traveler does not merely fail to prevent the actions he seeks to prevent; he in fact precipitates them (predestination paradox), usually by accident.
People who believe that you would just disappear are probably wrong, because if you killed your grandfather before your dad was born, you never existed to travel back in time to kill him, therefore, the second you create a definite potential for grandfather to die, e.g shooting a bullet, you become non-existent and there is a collision of nonexistent and existing matter, a matter antimatter collision would occur thus destroying that part of space time.
If your presence already exists, then I believe if you killed your grandfather then you would only ever change the future. Therefore, you would ultimately still exist, however, only out of time and place. If you returned to your time, nobody would know you.
reality is truth. If this guy killed his grandpa before his grandpa had his dad, then his dad never had him. So he never existed. But if he didn't exist, then he never went back in time and killed his grandpa, so his grandpa had his dad and his dad had him. Since reality is truth, this isn't true. There has to be some kind of reality law to fix it.
the grandfather paradox is when a man (lets call him Tick) goes back in time, he accidently kills his own grandfather before Tick's dad had been born. So if Tick never exsisted then that means that means Tick could have not killed his grandfather meaning his grandfather is still alive. So he has Tick's dad and Tick's dad has Tick meaning he can kill his grandfather. Confusing, eh? ;)
thats true also, only, to live, he would have had to go a little farther back in time (before he killed his grandpa) and kill himself, while remaining in the same time sequence where he was going to get up and meet his grandpa.
also, it's not possible for him to have ever gone back in time for his grandfather to have an accident, because what happens at 1:58 is an impossibility, as the guy would be dead after his gramps' accident, and the accident would never have happened, and so on, starting an infinite cycle lol.
Shoot, I accidentally removed your other comment when I meant to hit "reply." Thanks for pointing that out and for asking for clarification. Yes, you're right about the different colors being the different times. Thanks for the comments!
thanks! i'm just finishing up another average guy fantasy (as i like to call it) right now that will be up on youtube soon. thanks for subscribing to my videos!
Dude, sweet video! Many a time have I started group of people discussing the paradox of traveling in time and killing your grandfather. Your movie presents an interesting view of what might happen. Post some more awesome videos!
Aaaaaaaaaah! I love Time Travel paradoxes, and this one is one of my favorites. I consider it a homicide7suicide, and sometimes it's an infinite chain. oooooooo
awesome! thanks for the comment. i love if when i don't need to explain what's going on to people. it's helps when they've heard of the grandfather paradox. i began writing this story while i was writing a paper on how paradoxical the terminator films are. alright, thanks again for enjoying!
So, at really, the ghosts are just persons that back on time, and killed the grandfather before the father being born?
lucaalbano8 4 months ago
@vhayes8886 The return trip is impossible, but if you killed your grandfather as he went forward in time you never existed, and then you couldn't have killed your grandfather.
Kheluva999 4 months ago
@vhayes8886 What I mean is that if you go backwards in time to kill your grandfather, you never existed right? Now, if your grandfather were to go forward in time, but he got killed, but you killed him, you also would have never existed. Am I correct?
Kheluva999 4 months ago
I just realized something. Forward time travel is just as impossible as backwards time travel! Say your grandfather were to go forward in time. Then you kill him. The same logic used in the grandfather paradox to the rest of this.
Kheluva999 6 months ago
So basically if I went to the past and killed my grandpa before he met my grandma I wouldn't exist and would go to a parallel universe? Or should I never have been born at all. Cuz if I killed my grandpa before then then I couldn't have killed him since I don't exist but that wouldn't be possible since I am here now!??? Right? I'm 16 shut up
himintheface 6 months ago
The moment his grandfather broke his neck it created a parallel universe in which the grandfather that died was the grandfather of his parallel self. Since the past is fixed his grandfather still lived, and so he was able to be born. He was only able to create a parallel reality in which the alternate him wouldn't be born.
kpmadness 6 months ago
in the theoy that past cant be changed, you always return to the past, but the events will most likely ended in that you can born, and u will return.....
like twelve monkeys... this is what i think it could be.....PAST CANT CHANGE
jitovan 7 months ago
i like the theory that past cant change, so if u return to the past and kill your granpa, there is still "some way" to u to exist so u can return, maybe that guy wasnt your grandpa, or u try kill him and fail, but you "must" exist in some way to return to the past and try to "change it".....
jitovan 7 months ago
I like being asian.
97kevinhuanle 9 months ago
My theory of the paradox is: (may be very stupid coming from a 14year old)
You kill your grandpa, and you start disappearing because you were "never born". Then your grandpa is alive again and the place you're in is "affected", because you didn't kill him yet. Then you pop back into time and you kill him and it all starts over.
He dies you're gone,
You're gone he's alive,
He's alive you're born,
You're born he dies.
97kevinhuanle 9 months ago
I've studied time travel and paradoxes like this are all avoided. You don't even have to duplicate yourself.
anticorncob6 10 months ago
Very Good, I like it
TheWilsonChannel 1 year ago
By going back in time and killing your grandfather wouldn't you have created an alternate time line through the 4th dimension which wouldn't effect you yourself in the future, but you would have not really changed anything because the 10th dimension contains all possible outcomes, and you not being born would be of the possible outcomes of the world so if the tenth dimension does exist then there most likely is a version of ourselves who kills our grandfather. so you wouldn't disappear.
John35182 1 year ago 3
@John35182 by the laws of quantum physics you jus created that possibility by the mere thought. thx now all of us has a lunatic time traveling self killing off grandfather after grandfather,ah more paradox's lol.
MushWorm 10 months ago 2
@MushWorm No matter what he do there will be an alternate timeline created so no matter how many times he kills off his Grandpa he will exist in a alternate reality
Goodlistener1201 9 months ago
If I didn't exist, and, like in this video, everything I touched in the parallel universe I was in didn't effect the real world, I would do so many things. For example, sexually exploit people, take things, and do whatever else.
theif519 1 year ago
Time, as the majority of humans see it, does not exist. Time is just a series of "nows." The only way our simple minds, which we only use 10% of in our lifetime, can understand them is to put these "nows" into a timeline. Think about it. Time and space are scientifically considered the same thing, called the space-time continuum. If you go to a place that something happened in a "past now," like the place where Neil Armstrong stepped on the moon, that is also the same time.
mrice102888 1 year ago
Why would anyone want to kill their grandfather and more profoundly,
go back in time to do it.
This is all conjencture,however, but how does a self-consistent universe allow
its outcome to be completely reversed by one action. If it does, then it suggests
pre-determination, the past waiting for the future to happen to determine itself.
Meanwhile, the present is suspended in time, also waiting for the future and the
past to meet.
dayalcober 1 year ago
wait wait wait!if he killed his gramps and stop'd him from pregnating his gran then he wouldnt have been born and couldnt go back in time to kill alex and stop all thos other dude and chiks from being born!!!so....HUH?
scousereddy2468 1 year ago
Their is no paradox, you would create or enter an other timeline
itspeejay 1 year ago
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@itspeejay I don't think so, and how could you prove it? and that doesn't make sense why would you end up in a different timeline?
mcdudeyoyoz 1 year ago
Why "Grandfather Paradox"?
What's wrong with a "Father Paradox"?
That sounds better too.
Laurelindo 1 year ago
@Laurelindo
People can't take the idea of killing their own fathers.
thewarrior357 1 year ago
the grand father paradox is absurd nonsense I laugh at it when in get confused goes against common sense and logical its nonsense the one time line become a snake that bit its own tail off then swallowed itself hole LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! he first will always existed now he was NEVER born instantaneously at the same exact time LMAO i ithink going back would allow the MWI
4r4d0234 1 year ago
There was too much wording so when you read my intersting comments, read FROM TOP TO BOTTOM (under this comment). I guarantee my comments are all pretty interesting.. :)
undertowaenima 2 years ago
First of all, time-travel is possible ( proven by Albert Einstein) either by traveling through a worm-hole, exceeding the speed of light, or going into the center of a black hole where matter is so dense that the space-time continuum stops.
So look it's like this: Everytime you travel back in time the original time-line splits into two (e.g. like a stream) and you create a new time-line starting from the date you travelled back to.
undertowaenima 2 years ago
@undertowaenima no.
Traveling through a wormhole, yes. (theoretically)
exceding the speed of light (not possible). You need to travel close to that speed. (99.99%)
into a black hole.. you'd be dead before you go inside. and i doubt going inside will time travel you. it will rip you to pieces though.
but you can go close to the speed of light and orbit an object like the earth, or a black hole because of gravitational time dilation
buddy39914 1 year ago
So look it's like this: Everytime you travel back in time the original time-line splits into two (e.g. like a stream) and you create a new time-line starting from the date you travelled back to. So if you killed your grandfather: You would exist in the original time-line, but you would be dead in the second one you created by traveling back in time, therefore there would be no point as you would continue existing in the original time-line.
undertowaenima 2 years ago
Also if you find time-travel interesting look up Theoretical cosmologist and space physicist Michio Kaku.
And if your wondering... Yes it is possible to travel back into time and exist in two time-lines.
If you did not understand anything I have written... then FUCKEN RE-READ IT.
Oh yea.. and by the way I'm only thirteen... so yea... Im pretty awesome.
Thank you for reading. :)
undertowaenima 2 years ago
@undertowaenima i also read that no person can go back in time. like i can't go back in wwii. is that also real?
MidnightRedemption 1 year ago
slight problem here...if he existed out of the frame of reality, how would he have killed himself? it would be impossible...so thins video is a paradox...
thecynic15 2 years ago
I think the answer to this is down to determinism and cause and effect. There is only a problem if you have an infantile/religious understanding of free will.
It would be impossible for a person to be motivated to kill their own grandfather. If you did succeed you'd discover that the man you killed was in fact, not your grandfather.
BipedalHumanoid 2 years ago
If you accept that we live in a determined universe (not predetermined) and we don't have free will, then it makes sense that a causal chain cannot be broken.
Most sci-fi authors completely screw up the entire concept of time travel.
BipedalHumanoid 2 years ago
Two possible outcomes in my mind right now:
1. you continue to exist, due to the fact that you were never born to kill your grandfather in the first place.
2. The grandmother marries another man, and your genetic code and memories are rewritten, according to the other conceptual parents design. Yet if your genetic code is re-written, perhaps that may have effects on your mannerisms, and you never go back to kill your father in the first place. Then you still stay yourself, but still kill him.
Deathrune456 2 years ago
That makes no sense. If you have different dna then it isn't you it's someone else. Memories are not 're-writen' the original ones just never existed.
If you succeed in killing your grandfather you cease to exist and then can't have killed your grandfather so you exist and kill your grandfather and then don't and don't... That's why it's called a paradox
BipedalHumanoid 2 years ago
twas just trying to find a way out, gotta love paradoxes....
Deathrune456 2 years ago
What if....?
Assuming I went back in time and killed my grandpa before he had my dad. Wouldnt it mean that I would just have a diffrent father. It would mean my mother had me with someone else?
So therefore the grandpa paradox should be replaced with the father/mother paradox.
Just a thought.....
shortysfriend 2 years ago
I don't think it would work like that because, I think the grandfather paradox is a contradiction cause if you were to kill your grandfather then it would be impossible because if he was killed you would never be born so you being there at that time would contradict the fact that you would never be born cause in fact you would be there killing him. Yes confusing I know lol and this movie was good because I believe it explains the grandfather paradox very well
lalawlaw 2 years ago
theres like four answears to this souch as a parralel universe a continuse chane the inabillity to change what has already been set(destiny) and the time traveler does not merely fail to prevent the actions he seeks to prevent; he in fact precipitates them (predestination paradox), usually by accident.
jeffry98 2 years ago
People who believe that you would just disappear are probably wrong, because if you killed your grandfather before your dad was born, you never existed to travel back in time to kill him, therefore, the second you create a definite potential for grandfather to die, e.g shooting a bullet, you become non-existent and there is a collision of nonexistent and existing matter, a matter antimatter collision would occur thus destroying that part of space time.
darkwave312 2 years ago
WOW it was 3:14 am where i was too.. wierd
thechileano 2 years ago
Man Those CLOCKTICKS .. are REALLY ANNOYING, Because they wont SYNC!... take some time to fix that man! .. and it will get BETTER!
ekeuz 2 years ago
I like it. That would look really really really great if you had a super mega budget the whole walking through people type stuff.
I like it
saitunes 2 years ago
If your presence already exists, then I believe if you killed your grandfather then you would only ever change the future. Therefore, you would ultimately still exist, however, only out of time and place. If you returned to your time, nobody would know you.
Chew on that for a while.
oXxHikaruxXo 2 years ago 2
im thinking the same thing...
its very logical
aerovlad 2 years ago
wonderfully done, loved the ticking and transitions
nekotheninja 2 years ago
reality is truth. If this guy killed his grandpa before his grandpa had his dad, then his dad never had him. So he never existed. But if he didn't exist, then he never went back in time and killed his grandpa, so his grandpa had his dad and his dad had him. Since reality is truth, this isn't true. There has to be some kind of reality law to fix it.
brianman4815162342 2 years ago 8
@brianman4815162342 i have an answer to your comment. but everytime i try to explain these kinds of things they give me headaches
buddy39914 1 year ago
the grandfather paradox is when a man (lets call him Tick) goes back in time, he accidently kills his own grandfather before Tick's dad had been born. So if Tick never exsisted then that means that means Tick could have not killed his grandfather meaning his grandfather is still alive. So he has Tick's dad and Tick's dad has Tick meaning he can kill his grandfather. Confusing, eh? ;)
DIGITALTHEATREHD1 10 months ago
@brianman4815162342 look at the achron alpha demo 4 grandfather paradox video. it explains it.
spudnick160 6 months ago
@brianman4815162342 I think that when you kill your grandfather, another universe without you, your family and your father is automatically created.
lucaalbano8 4 months ago
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canyouhearthemm 3 years ago
thats true also, only, to live, he would have had to go a little farther back in time (before he killed his grandpa) and kill himself, while remaining in the same time sequence where he was going to get up and meet his grandpa.
Bluphire55 3 years ago
also, it's not possible for him to have ever gone back in time for his grandfather to have an accident, because what happens at 1:58 is an impossibility, as the guy would be dead after his gramps' accident, and the accident would never have happened, and so on, starting an infinite cycle lol.
Bluphire55 3 years ago
but technically it wasnt murder (the description) but it was just a really just a horrible accident
asiandude814 3 years ago
Shoot, I accidentally removed your other comment when I meant to hit "reply." Thanks for pointing that out and for asking for clarification. Yes, you're right about the different colors being the different times. Thanks for the comments!
stupendousdan21 3 years ago
promote this video!!!!!!
canyouhearthemm 3 years ago
This is why time travel can never happen.
Link4587452 3 years ago
No no, this is why some people THINK time travel will never happen. It cannot be proved, or at least, not yet.
Eggyrocks1 3 years ago 2
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Bluphire55 3 years ago
well it doesnt seem likely... think like this- why haven't we had any visitors from the future?
Bluphire55 3 years ago
that was tight foo. you had me thinking for a while
818loko 3 years ago
ahhh shit i can't think straight, this was amazing! brilliant editing : )
remccs16 3 years ago
but if you truly killed your grandfather, this video wouldnt exist......
caddywhompus2000 3 years ago 6
you just blew my mind! haha, thanks for the comment.
stupendousdan21 3 years ago 2
I love this. A true paradox! Thanks for posting
homousios 5 years ago
oo i really like it! 5 stars
tigerlily86 5 years ago
tight vid man, i like the way u think
drumguy2007 5 years ago
thanks! i'm just finishing up another average guy fantasy (as i like to call it) right now that will be up on youtube soon. thanks for subscribing to my videos!
stupendousdan21 5 years ago
Dude! Is that THE Ben Chun?
sedatedboy 5 years ago
damn right.
stupendousdan21 5 years ago
The end confuses me but I like it :-)
fcbahamutzero 5 years ago
Dude, sweet video! Many a time have I started group of people discussing the paradox of traveling in time and killing your grandfather. Your movie presents an interesting view of what might happen. Post some more awesome videos!
hucknbid 5 years ago
Aaaaaaaaaah! I love Time Travel paradoxes, and this one is one of my favorites. I consider it a homicide7suicide, and sometimes it's an infinite chain. oooooooo
layazero 5 years ago
awesome! thanks for the comment. i love if when i don't need to explain what's going on to people. it's helps when they've heard of the grandfather paradox. i began writing this story while i was writing a paper on how paradoxical the terminator films are. alright, thanks again for enjoying!
stupendousdan21 5 years ago