Neverwhere - Introduction of the Marquis

[psychosissafari]

I would love to see Neverwhere adapted into a film. With a budget big enough to properly represent the settings and characters unlike this. I like the graphic novel version of de carabas with unnaturally jet black skin with no disernable features other than mouth and eyes, and long white hair.

[MandibleMuge]

This is exactly how I pictured De Carabas! It's so cool seeing it all in motion. He's just the swashbuckling adventurer that was described.

[DeathlyHalcyon]

I imagined De Carabas as looking like either Daniel Day Lewis in a very disheveled, grimy and long haired with something of a debonair mustache and goatee gone wrong and his apparell withered and covered by the sewer grime, soot of chimneys and the dirt of the streets. It was either Daniel Day Lewis or Gary Oldman.

[CustardGanet]

is this series available on dvd?

[rayblack2004]

Johnson!

[jaskov1]

As a Gaiman's fan I was looking forward to seeing what this show is all about, but it looks like an amateur video. Too bad I guess I'll pass this one.

[smilestreets]

LOL @ old bailey



[smilestreets]

i always imagined de carabas as johnny depp "jack sparrow" kinda character

[MrThoughtfox]

IT'S IT-MAN LYNDON FROM GREEN WING

[andreaparenti006]

I really don't know what's the real hair of the black funny guy :D

[SleepyShippo]

I'm almost at the end of the book, and either i forgot or never noticed in the text that Marquis de Carabas was black. I know Hunter is black, but i completely missed that de Carabas was.

[GreyGreenEyes]

@SleepyShippo There is not a word. I've always imagined him as a Latino.

[borimirtheboring]

I had no idea this existed! Awesomesauce

[kentobeatbox]

So thats how Johnny Depp practiced for pirates of the carribean, interesting

[Mosey121]

interesting... not how i pictured but since Neil wrote this before writing the book, this would be how he wanted it pictured no?

[k1ngR4t]

@Mosey121 Actually the screenplay was written first but the BBC wouldn't accept it without changes. The changes were made and that is the series. Gaiman then went on to write the novel so he could portray the world as he REALLY wanted it to be...

[Atheist269]

wtf this isnt how i imagined him at all.. i imagined him more like a professor snape from HP but with a ponytail type of disheveled hair; much darker but at the same time good at heart than this guy

[thelemonysocks]

Ah haha De Carabas reminds me so much of Lucius Malfoy from AVPM

[theoblivious]

Is that Benjamin, from Jekyll???

[MrAquadian]

I always pictured Richard as Simon Pegg in my head.

[TheMimifur]

You can get the DVD from Amazon for under a fiver now.

[TheMimifur]

I cant move,

[Fabbyfubz]

Oh my god, I'm gay for Johnson

[hahayou12345]

I much prefer the book.

[Deader87]

I really miss this show, too bad it's not on Net-flix instant-downoad anymore

[b1e2t]

hmm..it is kinda different in the book,

it was a bit too scary and dark,and something.

[KeredDrahcir]

Is there anywhere I can get the entire series? I always like a show where the main character has my name.

I never before or since saw anything as weird as this but loved it.

[boracheros]

the marquis here looks like a gay pimp pirate. richard looks like a schmuck. i like the book better

[TheMimifur]

Widdershins is anti clcokwise richard.

[antifolkhero]

I imagined de Carabas looking more like Captain Hook than Milli Vanilli.

[LordSvzklx]

Paterson joseph, peter capaldi, tamsin grieg...that's a fairly nig-name cast, so why had I never heard of this before i read the book?

[FinalfantasyFRANtic]

They should really do a remake .... -.- what about some hollywood quality instead of tv series graphics?=O ... The book is far too good for this ...

[morpheus9494]

richard looks pretty different from my mind im reading the boor right now :D

[salazarifbb]

I saw this as a kid and in all of my memories Lenny Henry is playing the Marquis De Carabas. Funny the way your mind can play tricks on you. Knowing Patterson Joseph is in the role makes me want to see it again.

[ErnieBlackle]

NO way should the Marquis sound that posh... I enjoyed the book more, its more hectic and weird...

What does 'Marquis de Carabas' mean? and in what language?

[andrex19100]

@ErnieBlackle The 'Marquis de Carabas' is a fictional nobleman in the fairy tale Puss in Boots. Marquis is a French word.

[Yumgetsum]

I'm certainly glad i read the book first. De Carabas seemed much more alive and charming in my head. This actor seems rather fake in my opinion. Though old bailey is pretty much what i expected haha! Pretty much just how i imagined him!

[theemmers15]

It's Paul McCartney!

[myphantomlight]

@sirgregii That would be because the Neverwhere miniseries came first and the book second.

[sirgregii]

I'm not quite sure which book any of you've read. I've never seen any movie that's as close to the book as Neverwhere is. Well, maybe, everybodyone creates differrent pictures in his/ her head, while reading the book. That may be the reason for your disappointment.

Feel yourself lucky of having not been able to read "Pirates of the Carribean" before watching the movie. Maybe it would have been something of a shock. A movie never looks like the movie you've seen in your brain.

[sirgregii]

I'm not quite sure which book any of you've read. I've never seen any movie that's as close to the book, than Neverwhere is. Well, maybe, everybodyone creates differrent pictures in his/ her head, while reading the book. That may be the reason for your disappointment.

Feel yourself lucky of having not been able to read "Pirates of the Carribean" before watching the movie. Maybe it would have been something of a shock. A movie never looks like the movie you've seen in your brain.

[TheBarackClinton]

I've always pictured the Marquis as a slightly less eccentric version of Jack Sparrow, except with darker, olive colored skin.

I really hope they nail the imagery of the novel in a movie or something, because this is just painful to watch.

[thealestar]

The book was so great.... The movie looks so cheezey.... What happened???

[nolab143691]

any way we can watch i dont have bbc so atlast i have no way to watch and sites to find it email me if ya do

[edithybabe]

i like the accent.!!

[spiderfly1014]

You can watch this again on the win 7 windows media center. Click on MSN Video Player. You can also watch it on the MSN Video player website.

[JJDvorshak]

The book is a million times better, but it was nice to see the mini-series too.

Gaiman did a real masterpiece here...

[CthuluCalimari]

Terrible, terrible, terrible. Looks like it was shot by a bunch of highschool kids.

[DefinitelySurely]

HAHA, is that Johnson?! I think I'm going to watch this series because of this awesome man.

[RavynStorms]

I think the actors in this series gave an amazing performance. The detail! These people are beautiful stage actors, their fellows must be proud :) I am sad it did not last longer <3

[HamHatter]

Hrm. Really isn't how i imagined it when i read the book. All looks far too clean and normal.

[TashaLovesyourface]

@HamHatter Well London above ground, is clean and normal.

[Merdrak]

@HamHatter Agreed. though the way his face lit up when Richard said "favor".. now that was priceless.

[Stereolabdream]

@HamHatter

When the BBC "made" Gormenghast it suffered a similar fate to this...its partly to do with the lighting, I think...and partly with the inability of any T.V series to allow for moments of stillness, when we just look at something for a while. To really see how that can work (though not as a T.V format, admittedly) a great example is the film Stalker by Tarkovsky.

[verkobula]

@HamHatter I agree , darker and darker and yes no day light!

[psychosissafari]

@HamHatter I think that the graphic novel adaptation with artwork by Glenn fabry is a much better representation. So maybe give that a try (if you havent already)

[superiourcowies]

JOHNSON!

[RogersBabe13]

I need to see the rest of this series! I am just finishing the book and it is my all time favorite book. The characters are so perfect. I know Neil Gaiman wrote them (the book and the mini-series) side by side. So It is bound to be astoundingly awesome! Does anyone know where you can buy a DVD of the mini series?

[sunnybrand]

@RogersBabe13

I think the show was first, and Gaiman later novelized it. There's a comic book, too.

[Entwistle54]

@sunnybrand This is true

[TheJcanno8]

Paterson Joseph would've made an awesome Doctor

[lace122002]

De Carabas FTW!

[MrAliman2010]

I was fortunate enough to play De Carabas last week in an adaptation of Neverwhere, will probably never ever play a character as awesome ever again!

[bunnialchemistmeep]

wow....this looks really good. and it's word for word!!

[Rhea68]

@bunnialchemistmeep

Neil Gaiman wrote the TV  series for BBC, so it is totally true to the book.

[marymactavish]

Dammit, he should have been the 11th Doctor.

[alithegreen]

Yes Yes YES!!! a thousand times YES!!! oh god! why dont producers listen to the fans like us? GEEK POWER!!!!!

[TokioMelissa]

IKR!

[aggalf1978]

I found the series at Netflix. I havent watched it Yet, havent even finished the Book because i havent had time, but no doub one of the best books ever.

[AngelAdorable3]

okay he's awesome

[Ablethe7]

Mr Vandemar an Mr Croup fcking rule

[bobandroz]

Yer looks good but can't help but think I am going to be disappointed the book is so good.

[JohnnyBGoode304]

where can I watch the series?

[runningfrog43]

the marquis Carabas is damn near how i invisioned him -- makes me want to watch the series

[atwch]

The marquee de carabas is originally a character from the story puss in boots for anyone wanting to find neils inspiration

[atwch]

An excellent series which i really wish they would re-play on the BBC

[21esszoba]

i've always imagined De Carabas like V from V for Vendetta, this is a rather disappointing interpretation of him

[SinnZilla]

The TV series came before the book

[21esszoba]

i've read the book first

[JustAPrayer]

Interesting. I didn't know they made a TV serious. From the looks of this it looks pretty good.

[JustAPrayer]

series, sorry

[FobSquat07]

i didnt know carabas was black it didnt say in the book

[soraseiiki]

Actually, it is mentioned when he is first introduced but it's easy to miss or perhaps to mistake it to mean his face is shadowy or dirty: "His eyes burned white in an extremely dark face."

[FobSquat07]

so at the end the angel said he knows where doors sister is, was that a lie?

[xylaphonemaster]

I can't help thinking "It's Alan Johnson!" from Peep Show.

[AvalonVampiress]

i'm reading the book now and it's fantastic

[anoteleftfromthegirl]

ya...i'm gunna have to agree w/ marumaru...he's a very nice looking man ;) .... but not who I pictured for de Carabas... he's got that arrogant air about him, but it's just not who i pictured...

[marumaru54]

Reading the book, did anyone else imagine the Marquis looking like the Boosh's Spirit of jazz? (probably only applies to late neverwhere readers)

No? Just me then.

[BethanyLankin]

Yes! I did too!

[NezTheXenophile]

de Carabas has that Goblin King vibe about him: vain, condenscending, manipulative, a taste for Regency fashion.

[neumn13]

whats up with the black guys hair? LMAO

[livingonrockall]

The man just teleported in and you're bothered that he has an unusual hairstyle?

[neumn13]

im not bothered by it..i just think it looks kinda funny is all

[conor10cloud]

i hear it was a greta mini series but was really watered down for the bbc...i mean i read the book and was shocked tht soemthing as dark as it got on the bbc ....obv why it was watered down

[editorsteve]

actually the tv series was first, then gaiman wrote the book as he wasnt totally happy with the tv series

[penguinpetal]

The Marquis has to be my favourite character in fiction ever - love him! Completely fell in love with Paterson Joseph when this first aired on the BBC (well, I was fifteen and he's gorgeous).

Always wondered though, the 'turn thrice widdershins' bit - does the marquis need to be summoned like some kind of demon or does he ask people to do this just to annoy them? It's never made clear if he's completely human (or anyone in London Below is), or something more supernatural...

[NajMeTender]

He's clearly something of an inbetween isn't he.. if he's able to do die more than once that is. Stashing his life away with roofmen and such :) Perhaps he's something of a god from another one of Gaiman's workings.

[TheBigBlueBox]

He would've made a fantastic Doctor... oh well..

[ShootStyleZombie]

he would and also ruined my jokes of The Doctor trying to get used to being black

[baronvonsatan]

The Doctor, being an alien, wouldn't be hung up on that sort of thing. Only humans are that stupid.

[bush2sucks]

I wish a studio with a budget and an imagination would take " Neverwhere" and turn it into a fantasy classic, this novel screams for a larger than life canvas. I've read the book at least a dozen times and it's so cinematic.

[angelicMisha]

Oooh that was good! Patterson!! ^_^

[mares2327]

I've heard a rumor that Paterson Joseph has accepted the role of the 11th Doctor, is it true? (I hope it is, he'd make a smashing Doctor Who.

[micheinnz]

Yes, it's true.

[abyss2590]

I was initially sceptical but he seems pretty good. Did anyone notice at 2:31 the door opening sounds like the TARDIS door opening- squeaky. Coincidence?

[jmm1233]

well the sound team where the same crew doing their sound magic in wworkshop-7 so i heard ,

[moviejamm]

Hmm, I think if the decsion were ever taken to have The Doctor regenerate into an American there would be public outcry. Like having Harry Potter come from Colorado. Even Philip Segal didn't go that far!

[livingonrockall]

American? Patterson did a convincing Cockney accent in Parting Of The Ways.

[manitou90]

I think he'd do a very good job as the 11th Doctor - this shows he can pull off "eccentric" characters quite well.

As for "well there's never been a black doctor"... that's just completely irrelevant. I care about the quality of the performance, rather than race issues. As for an "in-universe" explanation, well, the Doctor hasn't regenerated into a black guy yet, just as he hasn't turned into a ginger guy, a Chinese guy, an American...

[livingonrockall]

RTD was poking fun at the nitpickers. The Doctor has been ginger.

[Laffington]

Didn't Gaiman create the Marquis character with the Doctor in mind? In any event -- if Joseph does become the Doc, he needs to keep that jacket -- very cool. Eccleston squared! With Steven Moffat at the helm, Paterson Joseph or anyone else in the role can't help but be stellar. If Joseph gets the part, I just hope he chooses a more masculine voice -- keep the accent though.

[moviejamm]

Yeah I think he could be good. Three things concern me; would his interpretation of The Doctor be a facsimilie of the Marquis de Carabas, he wasn't very good when he was in Doctor Who before (Roderick in Parting of the Ways and Bad Wolf) and I think if The Doctor could regenerate into a black guy then it would've happened at some point in his 900 years! Still, complete genetic restructure and everything. Joseph is very Doctory in this clip though I must admit.

[feckyoo2]

The black guy is gonna be the new Doctor Who...

[livingonrockall]

He's only rumoured, along with many others. I hope it turns out to be true though.

[ThatNickGuy28]

Strongly rumoured, but if it's true? I'm down for it. He's got that super-intelligent alien-like persona, already.

[performingmonkey900]

Yeah, someone who's co-starring with him in Survivors said when he was being interviewed that Paterson is the next Doctor.

[sknywhtboy88]

hmm, from the book I pictured de Carabas a being a lot slimmer, but still kind of fearsome, he's also bald in my vision. I also pictured him with a really deep voice.

[TheMegaRon]

Very interesting, Thorny. Veeery interesting. Can't wait to finish the book, mostly because what's in the box has been bugging me for the longest time.