i think bits can be harsh on the mouth of the horse , in the hands of a bigginer i dont think that bits are a for of punishment tho!but i really hate spurs
Basically... the horse does not HAVE to do any of this! He does it because he WANTS to! If he didn't want to lay on his back he would not. This shows that you can teach ANYTHING to a horse! Even to "act" human. And bits/spurs use the method of punishment. No matter what hands they are in.
@haveaseatproduction You know that's like say the elephants in Ringling brothers circus do those things cuz they want to...no. Because they've had fear instilled in them behind the tents, in the garage and arenas where they are trained, and they become scared of what will happen if they don't accomplish the task. If you don't believe me look it up
I have heard that this man isolate his horses ? And when the horse is a very social animal his horses .. i dont know have to say it.. but they get more interested and dependable of him ? you know .. So in that way I dont like him..
To everyone who thinks these horses (for example 0:31 ) aren't happy:
Horses not olny put their ears back when they are angry or unhapply, but when they are working hard or concentrating as well. These are some of the happiest non-feral horses I have seen. They are pinning their ears back because they are working hard not because they are not happy!!!!
tthis film doesnt shiw anything...as they say)and its xtremly dangerous for both..a rider and a horse..and some girls broke their necks because they waned to be like him..but he never explained really how................
All the people who has comments on him. Try it yourself. Let's see of you can do it better. If a horse doesn't like something he would kick your ass ;)
We do not know how long this horse and trainer have been together. Perhaps from the birth of the horse. Lots of carrots and brushing rewards make this possible but I'd like to know the background of the trainer. I''ll bet he has slept weeks in the hay next to the horse during training like in the film Mazzeppa.
ummm...so they show the finished product, which is awesome. But how do they get there? I study my horses as much as I can, as well as watch videos of trainers I admire. I have a pretty good relationship with my horses. But someday I want to be able to do this with them.
@KnightHawke01 well, i study parelli natural horsemanship (but any type of natural horsemanship is brill if parelli is not for you) and it works so well for me! maybe you give it a go and see what you think!
Pfff. One of the major points of Nevzorov's school is not about "who rides better" or "what training is better". It's more about symbiotic relationahip of man and horse. "I love horses" and "I like riding horses" are no synonyms. Not at all. Personally, I appreciate his hard work because it allows human to really understand and love horses.
I always knew that the best riders aren´t the world champion and so on. I´ve never seen such a horse trainer. It´s really near the difficult word, perfection.
I think natural horsemanship is wonderful, but bits, spurs, training aids, etc. are not inhumane in the proper hands. Many people abuse these things but not everyone does. I must say the horse at 0:31 truely does not look very happy though. And I noticed the horse laying on his back nipped at the man kissing his mouth, which...quite honestly I would have too. I see no need for my horse to lay on his back while I straddle him and kiss his face like he is another human.
I cannot imagine any horse doing these things if s/he is angry. Look at the overall body language. If these horses were angry, etc., the ears would be pinned flat against the head, not rotating. The tail would be swishing hard and the face would be tight and the body tense and resistant. I don't see any of that.
@tunagirll bits and spurs (ONLY WHEN USED CORRECTLY) can be not only very effective tools, but gantle - with correct use the horse learns respect (very different from fear) and learns trust also - just as a dressage whip is used as an extension of the hand or leg (hopefully not to hit) it provides a human the tools to communicate. If this guy really is abusive, then I certainly do not support him, however, Simply using a bit or spure does not automatically make him abusive - just sayin'
If you're gonna have a horse in a situation where he might be spooked and you can't control him with that rope around his neck that some horses had in the video, a bit and bridle are nescesary. If I ever get a green horse, I'm not gonna start training him for a couple months after I get him just so he can learn to trust me and all.
Nevzorov, has taken Pat Parelli's, natural horsemanship theories and adapted them to dressage. The horse is always given a choice between comfort and discomfort until it "decides" to do the "correct" thing. Notice the trainer has a whip in his hand in most frames, with which he will tap or harass the horse until the horse does the action the trainer is looking for. Just as with the harsh bits (minus the blood), the horse has a choice to comply or to feel discomfort when NOT complying.
@globeflyer8@globeflyer8 I noticed that nevzorov is negative about the Parelli methods [in the dvd he says a negative statement in russian standing next to Pat]. Parelli was one of the first people (especially in the states) to make a big name of horsemanship. But there are many other 'natural' horsemanship trainers to be inspired from. I wouldn't refer to Parelli when it comes to Nevzorov's natural angles. but he is combining the best parts of natural horsemanship with the Acedemic school.
@globeflyer8 With the whip - what your talking about is negative reinforcement. I feel that he is more using it to give trained signals... Don't get me wrong though, I am very concerned about those ears.
@Iraisis Some horses are tended to put their ears back when they are very concentrated of when they are learning new things they don't completely control a 'trick' or 'command'. He understands the man but I guess he's concentrated because it's not easy and unnatural to place his weight to one leg and jump to another one, and back to the first.
@rupashka you dont have to sit perfectly to train horses... you have to sit different on each horse how the horse tells you... i havent a perfect seat and i have trained a horse to ride it... the seat isnt the imrtant thing on riding its the bodylanguage and that the horse is understanding what you want.... why does anybody ever think the seat is as that important??? nobody is sitting perfect but if you can read the language of horses you can train them..
The seat is very important, as it is one of the best tools to communicate with the horse. Without a good seat how is the horse supposed to balance and use its back properly. You can maybe teach them tricks without a good seat but that is not dressage.
i ride since 1,5 years and i have trained my horse allone i am not a perfect rider and if you tinkt the dressatgeriders have a perfect seat you havent ever watched them... its more important that you understand the horse and a horse is telling you if you sit godd or not because he will buck you off...
ok i cant sit perfect because of my back .. so in theswe category its not important that the horses go dressages or anything iots important to tell the bond between the horse and you
@gabbybella123 He uses bits and spurs harshly along with his cordeo, and taught them how to respond to it while using a very harsh bit. I have pics, I have seen it. He claims to have trained them with only the rope, and he is a liar plain and simple. I don't critisize what he did, i critisize his lying about it.
Beautiful video and fantastic training - Baltocribs, I don't know where you live, but I too am French and this is the first time I hear that we don't "smile" unless we have a reason. We must have a lot of reasons, because I and all my friends do smile a lot! Joie de vive is a French expression, is it not???
This is fantastic and I applaud this persons respect and care for the horse and his dignity. I cannot actual comprehend why anyone would be so negative about this man's work with horses. How is it that the beautiful equus genus brings about such malignant and nasty behaviour and comments??Is it jealousy or just the vileness of the genus of man?
Looks sloppy and the handler is too noisy. He could tone down his cues to make it even more beautiful and soft. The horses in some parts are hallow and not moving with correct bio mechanics it would be much better particularly at that level to teach a horse how to properly carry a rider and use his body effectively of rt. soundness and health of the horse through the years.
I like to say,this can be don without tools,i do it my self,and i even dont use a wip to touch the horse, but voise and body only,watch my video,the horse are not angry,hes con.on what he have to do,thats qiut normal,that they have there ears back :) Ps i will soon have more videos,the one i have is only a test video,i will show many more things,what a horse can do without any helping tools.
@horsespiritDK if you are riding and the ear is back its very good because the horse is interesting of the rider and so there is no reason that the horse is angry
It cracks me up that the horse at 1:09 is behind the vertical and not poll high. If this horse had a bridle on there would be outrage and cries of rollkur abuse.
@UltimateDQ so if a horse is ding it allone he can watch but if you try to get it behind it he is shocked and cant see, and a bridle is very painful by useing it in RDL so its different to that... in nature not every horse walks every in front of the vertical bit its so much different to RDL because the horses walk all the time behind it and couldnt see anything nd the pain hurts more than anything.. dont get it with that that two total different things and if you dont know dont tell it
@hosabund, ya, I'm not saying rollkur is good but part of the reason people get excited is because the horses are not poll high with nose on or in front of vertical. If that is incorrect and evidence of poor training in those horses then it is incorrect and bad training in this horse. Or is it just natural for some horses to come behind the vertical when they collect? I just think it's interesting, I'm not advocating rollkur, I think there are other ways.
Um, touching (NOT hitting) a horse's legs with the edge of the whip is a common tool to tell a horse to lift it's legs or other things... you don't BEAT them with it.
It can, it can: but then again that's the big debate, isn't it? So many people say the bit is an instrument of torture, and if you imagine yourself with a bit of metal in your mouth putting pressure on your tongue and gums to make you move, it can't be comfortable. If used with "finesse", it won't hurt the horse- but is it the best way of communication? So many horse brace themselves against it... If there are other ways to control the horse without the bit, why not try them?
Dan zitten ze te zeuren over dat paarden in de dressuur allemaal onnatuurlijke kunstjes moeten vertonen.. nou.. wat zie ik hier.?. Is het natuurlijk dan om een paard pasage passen te laten lopen dan?./buigen/strekken/knielen (jah dat doen hensgten) maak mij het maar niet wijs.. onzin pff
come on......... look at the bodylanguage. the horses feel that they can trust him, thats why they do all the stuff he ask them to do... he dont need to forse them, and thats love!
No, when horses are listening they have different ears. They're back too, but they're different. For example, in 0:31, there's no sense for the ears back if he's listening, because the man is on front of the horse.
the ears are back in concentration. You know when a dog wags his tail doesn't mean he's happy. Trainers have found that wagging tail also means agression or agitation. See what I mean? Have you ever been to France? If you go there you will notice when you look at people they will frown at you rather than smile like americans. It doesn't mean they dont like you but the french don't smile if they have no reason.We can take many languages into misperception even horses.(=
LOL !!! The french don't smile if they have no reason! Oh, that's delicious xD Being french, I'll have to try to live up to this strange reputation we have ! (I had no idea french people gave this impression to foreigners xD)
if the horse is angry and have the chance to attack, it would attack.. but it doesnt, the horse just does what the trainer asks for... in this case i think the ears just means concentration
@NakuruNebelung I agree that when horses are "listening" and put their ears back they have a different expression, however the horse is performing the action without cranking his tail or champing his mouth, so I think it might be that the horse is just concentrating very carefully and has put his ears back in response to that.
@NakuruNebelung Why, damn, people always pay NO attention to these horses' FACES, their expressions, muscules of the face, body language????? EVERYTHING united in one??? It's not possible that ears alone say "ok, i'm angry now. Or no, wait, no, now i'm disappointed."
@NakuruNebelung the ears go back with concentration and fast movement. watch a horse galloping all out sometime for fun in a pasture. the ears are back.
@NakuruNebelung this is not true his ears are back because the horse in making a big effort you'll also see that whene horses are galoping as fast as they can the horse at 0:31 is just concentrating on what the man is asking him that's all^^
@NakuruNebelung you may be right it's diferent for every horses, i've been riding for 10 years and learn ethologie with great pleasure and i can promess you those horses are not hurt or anything at all if it were true they would never have that kind of result ^^ my horse put his ears in the exact same manners whene i make him galop with me and that she flip out (sorry for my terrible english i'm french^^)
@NakuruNebelung A lot of horses have their ears back as is... I knew a gelding, and when he was turned loose with no one in the ring his ears were back... Just like some horses swish their tails a bunch... Some horses tuck their tails into their body, some flag their tails even when they're unhappy. Learn the horse and it's own personal body language, and not ones you find in library books.
@NakuruNebelung As I said at the end of my previous post, you can't box up every horse into one body language. I spend hours watching a horse in the pasture freely to get to know the horse better, lol. It does it 90% of cases, but not all. I knew a mare, and in her happiest times her tail wass swishing and flicking, she just did it a lot. Just as I said, like some horses flag their tails reguardless of what they feel.
@lskfls Nope, nothing. No nervous system problems, she just swished it a lot. It was a concern to the owners, but they tried to get to the bottom of it, when there was nothing to figure out :P
This is what you call a true bond with a human and horse. When you can do this with barley any command, its a great friendship. I hope to make a bond with my mare one day that's just like this.
I think useing the rope around the neck is a good change from the bridle and reins because many riders, when taking breaks from workouts, will simply let the reins fall and that developes problems for the neck because of the weight distribution on the front legs, causing the horse to fall forward. That horse at 0:57 is beautiful!
um. . i would guess from experience repetition and good rewards. . .this lady i know that teaches her horse aweosme tricks like this says she just talks to him
What do I mean?Firstly I mean that his past is unclear; he was too much involved in Soviet Union politics and was spreading propaganda against Baltic countries to the world, On January 15, 1991, in his program he approved brutal actions of the Soviet authorities in Vilnius, Lithuania, during the Vilnius massacre. And about horses.. Offcourse, he does a good job with horses, though, it seems he still hides too much anger towards other people.
Oh no I'm sure he's not keeping hatred to people, I suppose he's just an extremely resolute, firm and serious man, he fights for his beliefs. And maybe he had the reason for doing all this you told about... I don't know. But nevertheless I love him so much for all he has done! I wish there were more people like him.
While I acknowledge that it is a nice concept, everything we do with horses requires some form of control. It is a dominant/submissive relationship. That doesn't mean beat or bully a horse but there has to be a certain amount of respect or you'll get hurt. He controls his horses without a bridle, but it's still controlling them and you can't gain horses respect just through love and carrots. They had to have been taught to respond through other aids. It's all a bit misleading, I think..
I think they were just trying to show the public that horses and their riders can do everything that others can do with bits/spurs/ contraptions/ etc. Plus I think they were using different words for the meaning you are saying here, It's a marketing tactic.
Daisyfields, "originally outlined by Xenophon the Greek, derive from defensive horsemanship created for war and predated-dated the birth of Christ by some 400 years. These spectacular leaps and plunges were originally meant for use by mounted riders to inspire terror in the hearts of foot soldiers." they were indeed used in battle... what are your references, that support your saying that it is misunderstood??
They weren't actually used in the fighting though. They were used beforehand. The book written by Xenophon himself is one source. He mentions the training of levade, for example, for use in parades for its beauty. It was not used during fighting, nor was the capriole. In the forms we know them they were not used in battle. Think about it. All of them, except the capriole, expose the underbelly of the horse, the only area not protected by armor and the most sensitive.
Forms of leaps and high collection movements were used for manuevering, but not the airs in the cpacity which we know them. They would expend far too much energy and serve almost no purpose, along with putting the horse and at incredible risk of death, which would most likely result in death for the rider. If you are going to talk about Xenophon, at least read his book first to understand more what exactly was used of what back then.
That's a very large miscinception. The airs were not used in battle; they were used in parades, demonstrations, and things like that to show the training of horse and rider.
LOL, i agree. Those horses don't look happy at all. I mean some of it looks beautiful but look at 37 secs. He taps the horse on its bum and it kicks out. How is that good?
Yes, jsut force the horses to do what you want, clear^^
These horses are happy, i think. Their wouldnt do things like that if they would be unhappy or would have had no trust in their trainers, and if they would abuse them for things like that, there wouldnt be ANY trust. So maybe think about what youre saying, before writing ;D
hum, the horse was asked to kick...that is called airs above ground have you ever seen the spainsh riding school?? levade, capriole,croupade, courbette all those are variations of the horse leaping and kicking :-)
I no, but why? I love the collected work without bits and I love the way the horses don't have to be forced to work but I just don't understand why they want their horses kicking out on demand.
And btw, bits and spurs are not the problem really. It's the people who use them badly. You can use both spurs and bits and still have a happy horse as long as your not cruel.
Why are they allowed to use great long whips but a spur is not allowed? Surely in the wrong hands their whips are just as bad?
well back in ye olden days the horses were trained to kick out on command that way when the riders were out on the battle field they could have the horse kick at an enemy behind them or rear up and stomp down on enemies in front of them, i too agree that anyone can be a great rider with bit... just as anyone can be bad and jerk on the reins or unknowly used the reins to balance themselves, and the horse suffers- steph
yeah, I supose that could be useful in war but I just don't see the point anymore. I don't actually think it's bad, it's just odd that they still make horses horses think kicking out is good. But at least you have a nice balenced opinion and aren't slating me for agreeing with bits xx
Yes true we dont use horses in war anymore, but why do people do hunter, jumping their horse? what is the point in that too?? Personally i would like to have a well rounded horse in case there was a major castrophte and we couldnt have gas for our car or electricty at least i have transportation my horse LOL
are you serious.. look up the Lippizans and the Spanish School of Riding in Vienna.. They practically do ballet on horseback and that movement is called a Capriole. It's very beautiful.. the horse was not kicking out in anger.
hmmm. this man seems somewhat hypocritical. he seems to say that all horses are capable of this type of movement, this type of complacency. i really dont care whether or not this man can make a horse jump to the moon and back without a bit...he's still forcing them to do something...hes still asking them to do something that they probably dont want to do. really... what horse "wants" to live fenced in? what horse "wants" to be around humans period?
left to themselves...horses would not come near humans if they weren't somehow "forced" to or asked to. so, whether or not this man has created some type of incredible bond with these animals, he is still asking them to do something"beyond their nature".
horses werent made to carry humans...so maybe he should stop riding cause that would be considered "cruel." people who ride with OMG bits! are no different that people who ride with corderos. corderos are still a form of control. despite the fact that they are more subtle and less able to do harm...they are a form of CONTROL. period.
How can you imagine a soft rope, 1cm in diameter to control a "dangerous" (it is like this horse seems to you?? SomeTHING that has to be taken under control..) animal weighting 500kg?? Just logic
Why are you putting quotes around the word dangerous? I never even mentioned anything about danger in my post. And I also don't understand this whole thing you've said with "someTHING that has..." I'm saying its a form of control which, from reading his little commentary on his website, is something he abhors. I'm saying that ANYONE, whether you use a bit or a rope or nothing, is attempting to control a horse. Period.
i think bits can be harsh on the mouth of the horse , in the hands of a bigginer i dont think that bits are a for of punishment tho!but i really hate spurs
luv4ponyz 9 months ago
I love such a way to work with horses .Beautiful
hut871 9 months ago
Wow, he's an amazing trainer! And I love how he doesn't use anything painful!
MyFishCare101 9 months ago
I bet I could find horrible photos of you and post them on youtube! This is SICK! Looks like you have a lot of time on your hands! You are an IDIOT!
amandaax912 10 months ago
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CutaaaYiji576 11 months ago
Basically... the horse does not HAVE to do any of this! He does it because he WANTS to! If he didn't want to lay on his back he would not. This shows that you can teach ANYTHING to a horse! Even to "act" human. And bits/spurs use the method of punishment. No matter what hands they are in.
haveaseatproduction 11 months ago 6
@haveaseatproduction You know that's like say the elephants in Ringling brothers circus do those things cuz they want to...no. Because they've had fear instilled in them behind the tents, in the garage and arenas where they are trained, and they become scared of what will happen if they don't accomplish the task. If you don't believe me look it up
cowgirl22hannah 1 month ago
I would really like to learn riding like this.
Sadly, I can't speak french and I'm not ready to pay 70€ for each lesson...
No offence; but I think money has a little role in this sport as well.
Rimfaxe96 11 months ago
where can you buy those riding boots go?
nathalla1 1 year ago
I have heard that this man isolate his horses ? And when the horse is a very social animal his horses .. i dont know have to say it.. but they get more interested and dependable of him ? you know .. So in that way I dont like him..
xxMissEPxx 1 year ago
@xxMissEPxx yep that's what he does
cowgirl22hannah 1 month ago
To everyone who thinks these horses (for example 0:31 ) aren't happy:
Horses not olny put their ears back when they are angry or unhapply, but when they are working hard or concentrating as well. These are some of the happiest non-feral horses I have seen. They are pinning their ears back because they are working hard not because they are not happy!!!!
kasumi9kitsune 1 year ago
love it <33
szaleju1 1 year ago
Stop rebutting everyone's comments if they are not asking questions. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
LiveToRideAndJump 1 year ago
tthis film doesnt shiw anything...as they say)and its xtremly dangerous for both..a rider and a horse..and some girls broke their necks because they waned to be like him..but he never explained really how................
evita565 1 year ago
All the people who has comments on him. Try it yourself. Let's see of you can do it better. If a horse doesn't like something he would kick your ass ;)
xJustSomebodyx 1 year ago
We do not know how long this horse and trainer have been together. Perhaps from the birth of the horse. Lots of carrots and brushing rewards make this possible but I'd like to know the background of the trainer. I''ll bet he has slept weeks in the hay next to the horse during training like in the film Mazzeppa.
durgaaa 1 year ago
ummm...so they show the finished product, which is awesome. But how do they get there? I study my horses as much as I can, as well as watch videos of trainers I admire. I have a pretty good relationship with my horses. But someday I want to be able to do this with them.
KnightHawke01 1 year ago
@KnightHawke01 --you find out how to get there by paying money and training with the guy for a long time - that's how.
durgaaa 1 year ago
@KnightHawke01 well, i study parelli natural horsemanship (but any type of natural horsemanship is brill if parelli is not for you) and it works so well for me! maybe you give it a go and see what you think!
Lillythepinkxxx 1 year ago
Von wem ist die Musik????? Do you know who wrote this beautiful piece of music??? I love the film so much but also the combination with the music.
Borderlaender 1 year ago
Wonderful...<3
thenicejossa 1 year ago
@purplejumpergirl It's located in St. Petersburg. And is EXTERMELY selective on students.
silhouetted321 1 year ago
Pfff. One of the major points of Nevzorov's school is not about "who rides better" or "what training is better". It's more about symbiotic relationahip of man and horse. "I love horses" and "I like riding horses" are no synonyms. Not at all. Personally, I appreciate his hard work because it allows human to really understand and love horses.
silhouetted321 1 year ago
I always knew that the best riders aren´t the world champion and so on. I´ve never seen such a horse trainer. It´s really near the difficult word, perfection.
Rimfaxe96 1 year ago
I think natural horsemanship is wonderful, but bits, spurs, training aids, etc. are not inhumane in the proper hands. Many people abuse these things but not everyone does. I must say the horse at 0:31 truely does not look very happy though. And I noticed the horse laying on his back nipped at the man kissing his mouth, which...quite honestly I would have too. I see no need for my horse to lay on his back while I straddle him and kiss his face like he is another human.
Equestrian08 1 year ago 5
dude where is this school!?!?!?!?
xoxoBarneyxoxo 1 year ago
WOW THIS IS AMAZING! I WOULD LIKE TO LEARN TO DO THIS WITH ME HORSES! WERE IS THIS SCHOOL AND HOW DO I GET IN!???
galambosamy 1 year ago
I want this to! where is it? and is it an school?
ilovesaraenasti 1 year ago 2
zielig.
Demiph 1 year ago
@Demiph hoezo zielig? dit is toch geweldig wat die man doet met zijn paard?
ilovesaraenasti 1 year ago
I cannot imagine any horse doing these things if s/he is angry. Look at the overall body language. If these horses were angry, etc., the ears would be pinned flat against the head, not rotating. The tail would be swishing hard and the face would be tight and the body tense and resistant. I don't see any of that.
kken1229 1 year ago
this guy is a fake. ask for pictures and I will send them to you
cowgirl22hannah 1 year ago
I agree, this guy is a douche. Plenty of photos around of him riding and training with bits and spurs.
tunagirll 1 year ago
@tunagirll exactly people are stupid. hes becoming more well known and therfore better found out. i feel sorry for his horses.
cowgirl22hannah 1 year ago
@tunagirll bits and spurs (ONLY WHEN USED CORRECTLY) can be not only very effective tools, but gantle - with correct use the horse learns respect (very different from fear) and learns trust also - just as a dressage whip is used as an extension of the hand or leg (hopefully not to hit) it provides a human the tools to communicate. If this guy really is abusive, then I certainly do not support him, however, Simply using a bit or spure does not automatically make him abusive - just sayin'
badmotherbear 1 year ago
@badmotherbear
If you're gonna have a horse in a situation where he might be spooked and you can't control him with that rope around his neck that some horses had in the video, a bit and bridle are nescesary. If I ever get a green horse, I'm not gonna start training him for a couple months after I get him just so he can learn to trust me and all.
28scotland 1 year ago
nevzorov is a doush.
TheLoschadka 1 year ago
That Was Amazingg (:
Neverralone 1 year ago
its nice to watch it but iam not mad about nevzorov at all.
McrazymaggieS 1 year ago
Love and totally agree with this video
Meandmyshadowz 1 year ago
Ничего гениального нет) конь тянется за угощением... Дрессура, лучсше пата парелли слушайте.
Aliska01234 1 year ago
how do you do the jump and kick ?
15moonlight 1 year ago
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niinaaaah 1 year ago
How makes you that? It is fantastic
sorry but i am from german:D
SuperMuffinbaby 1 year ago
wow tahts very good
saskia1000100 1 year ago
Nevzorov, has taken Pat Parelli's, natural horsemanship theories and adapted them to dressage. The horse is always given a choice between comfort and discomfort until it "decides" to do the "correct" thing. Notice the trainer has a whip in his hand in most frames, with which he will tap or harass the horse until the horse does the action the trainer is looking for. Just as with the harsh bits (minus the blood), the horse has a choice to comply or to feel discomfort when NOT complying.
globeflyer8 2 years ago
ahhh i know! everyone has copied Parelli. this guy's cool though
zoeandomi4ever 1 year ago
@zoeandomi4ever Parelli methods are awful!
Equichav 1 year ago
@globeflyer8 @globeflyer8 I noticed that nevzorov is negative about the Parelli methods [in the dvd he says a negative statement in russian standing next to Pat]. Parelli was one of the first people (especially in the states) to make a big name of horsemanship. But there are many other 'natural' horsemanship trainers to be inspired from. I wouldn't refer to Parelli when it comes to Nevzorov's natural angles. but he is combining the best parts of natural horsemanship with the Acedemic school.
Iraisis 1 year ago
@globeflyer8 With the whip - what your talking about is negative reinforcement. I feel that he is more using it to give trained signals... Don't get me wrong though, I am very concerned about those ears.
Iraisis 1 year ago
@Iraisis Some horses are tended to put their ears back when they are very concentrated of when they are learning new things they don't completely control a 'trick' or 'command'. He understands the man but I guess he's concentrated because it's not easy and unnatural to place his weight to one leg and jump to another one, and back to the first.
XxDniessxX 1 year ago
He can't sit in a saddle correctly (0:45-0:46). I wonder how can he teach horses with such bad seat!
rupashka 2 years ago
@rupashka you dont have to sit perfectly to train horses... you have to sit different on each horse how the horse tells you... i havent a perfect seat and i have trained a horse to ride it... the seat isnt the imrtant thing on riding its the bodylanguage and that the horse is understanding what you want.... why does anybody ever think the seat is as that important??? nobody is sitting perfect but if you can read the language of horses you can train them..
hosabund 2 years ago
The seat is very important, as it is one of the best tools to communicate with the horse. Without a good seat how is the horse supposed to balance and use its back properly. You can maybe teach them tricks without a good seat but that is not dressage.
UltimateDQ 2 years ago
i ride since 1,5 years and i have trained my horse allone i am not a perfect rider and if you tinkt the dressatgeriders have a perfect seat you havent ever watched them... its more important that you understand the horse and a horse is telling you if you sit godd or not because he will buck you off...
ok i cant sit perfect because of my back .. so in theswe category its not important that the horses go dressages or anything iots important to tell the bond between the horse and you
hosabund 2 years ago
Ya, ok, whatever. I guess it just depends on what you want to train them to do.
UltimateDQ 2 years ago
@rupashka i don't think you're in any position to critiscise this man.
gabbybella123 1 year ago
@gabbybella123 he's a fake
cowgirl22hannah 1 year ago
@cowgirl22hannah how exactly? he asked the horses to act for him? seems pretty unfake to me.....unless these are animated horses of course.
gabbybella123 1 year ago
@gabbybella123 He uses bits and spurs harshly along with his cordeo, and taught them how to respond to it while using a very harsh bit. I have pics, I have seen it. He claims to have trained them with only the rope, and he is a liar plain and simple. I don't critisize what he did, i critisize his lying about it.
cowgirl22hannah 1 year ago
@cowgirl22hannah can i see the pictures? what source are they from?
and these horses in the video are not responding to spurs and a harsh bit.
also, there are people who have been taught by him, and trust his methods....
gabbybella123 1 year ago
Beautiful video and fantastic training - Baltocribs, I don't know where you live, but I too am French and this is the first time I hear that we don't "smile" unless we have a reason. We must have a lot of reasons, because I and all my friends do smile a lot! Joie de vive is a French expression, is it not???
lauralbriar 2 years ago
This is fantastic and I applaud this persons respect and care for the horse and his dignity. I cannot actual comprehend why anyone would be so negative about this man's work with horses. How is it that the beautiful equus genus brings about such malignant and nasty behaviour and comments??Is it jealousy or just the vileness of the genus of man?
zrx110099 2 years ago
Looks sloppy and the handler is too noisy. He could tone down his cues to make it even more beautiful and soft. The horses in some parts are hallow and not moving with correct bio mechanics it would be much better particularly at that level to teach a horse how to properly carry a rider and use his body effectively of rt. soundness and health of the horse through the years.
VenusSavvy 2 years ago
I like to say,this can be don without tools,i do it my self,and i even dont use a wip to touch the horse, but voise and body only,watch my video,the horse are not angry,hes con.on what he have to do,thats qiut normal,that they have there ears back :) Ps i will soon have more videos,the one i have is only a test video,i will show many more things,what a horse can do without any helping tools.
horsespiritDK 2 years ago
@horsespiritDK if you are riding and the ear is back its very good because the horse is interesting of the rider and so there is no reason that the horse is angry
hosabund 2 years ago
Wow this is amazing!!
ciskelover 2 years ago
It cracks me up that the horse at 1:09 is behind the vertical and not poll high. If this horse had a bridle on there would be outrage and cries of rollkur abuse.
UltimateDQ 2 years ago
@UltimateDQ so if a horse is ding it allone he can watch but if you try to get it behind it he is shocked and cant see, and a bridle is very painful by useing it in RDL so its different to that... in nature not every horse walks every in front of the vertical bit its so much different to RDL because the horses walk all the time behind it and couldnt see anything nd the pain hurts more than anything.. dont get it with that that two total different things and if you dont know dont tell it
hosabund 2 years ago
@hosabund, ya, I'm not saying rollkur is good but part of the reason people get excited is because the horses are not poll high with nose on or in front of vertical. If that is incorrect and evidence of poor training in those horses then it is incorrect and bad training in this horse. Or is it just natural for some horses to come behind the vertical when they collect? I just think it's interesting, I'm not advocating rollkur, I think there are other ways.
UltimateDQ 2 years ago
marvellous!!!
Kretes7 2 years ago
Incredible!
neuronpie 2 years ago
great!!
Smile6556 2 years ago
oh my gosh that seems so wonderful :-D and beautiful. wish I had the honour of that sort of eductaion.
sensitivesoul 2 years ago
i'm all up for it..but if he's training horses without any form of control..why is he ALWAYS holding a lunge or dressage whip!?
Myrs33 2 years ago
Um, touching (NOT hitting) a horse's legs with the edge of the whip is a common tool to tell a horse to lift it's legs or other things... you don't BEAT them with it.
Rietto 2 years ago
@Myrs33 He's using them as tools, like a cue. A way of communication, not control. The horse always has the option to protest.
darklegacy416 2 years ago
so, the bit can also be used correctly as a way of communication, dont you think so?
Haileru 2 years ago
It can, it can: but then again that's the big debate, isn't it? So many people say the bit is an instrument of torture, and if you imagine yourself with a bit of metal in your mouth putting pressure on your tongue and gums to make you move, it can't be comfortable. If used with "finesse", it won't hurt the horse- but is it the best way of communication? So many horse brace themselves against it... If there are other ways to control the horse without the bit, why not try them?
kanamoon 2 years ago
The dressage whip is used as an extension of his arm to lengthen his capacity of control. He never touches the horse with it. ;)
kanamoon 2 years ago
wow... when im older im going to find out a LOT more about training horse that way and when i have horses im going to train them like that
ZenyJay1 2 years ago
really the greatest method of beeing friends with your horse!!!!!!!!! i want to be able to do this too!!!!!!!!! just great!!
Shakkischatzi 2 years ago
GEIL!!!
freepinkhorse 2 years ago
Nevzorov is truly a fantastic man. I love his ways of training horses. Gives me tears every time I watch him.
Truly the best way of training horses
CloudStrife2014 2 years ago
wonderfull, impressive...
BertaHorseB 2 years ago
OMG!
Thats amazing! :D
MissMimmisch 2 years ago
Dan zitten ze te zeuren over dat paarden in de dressuur allemaal onnatuurlijke kunstjes moeten vertonen.. nou.. wat zie ik hier.?. Is het natuurlijk dan om een paard pasage passen te laten lopen dan?./buigen/strekken/knielen (jah dat doen hensgten) maak mij het maar niet wijs.. onzin pff
newtdavos 2 years ago
this is wonderful
TheNecroqueen66 2 years ago
Zo mooi :D
minouesmee 2 years ago
Gorgeous!!!! Amazing!!!
mpswmo42 2 years ago
Slaaaaaaaaaaaavo Nevzorovo !
simoslav 2 years ago
the horses dont look so happy
horselover497 2 years ago
come on......... look at the bodylanguage. the horses feel that they can trust him, thats why they do all the stuff he ask them to do... he dont need to forse them, and thats love!
lskfls 2 years ago 3
so tell me which horses are ridden better then this?
SimbliZZard 2 years ago 20
@SimbliZZard nobody I think :D
ilovesaraenasti 1 year ago
Why horses look angry sometimes, with the ears back and stuff?
NakuruNebelung 2 years ago 2
Because they are listening to him .......
Happypony4ever 2 years ago
No, when horses are listening they have different ears. They're back too, but they're different. For example, in 0:31, there's no sense for the ears back if he's listening, because the man is on front of the horse.
Those look angry or disgusted ears for me ...
NakuruNebelung 2 years ago 9
the ears are back in concentration. You know when a dog wags his tail doesn't mean he's happy. Trainers have found that wagging tail also means agression or agitation. See what I mean? Have you ever been to France? If you go there you will notice when you look at people they will frown at you rather than smile like americans. It doesn't mean they dont like you but the french don't smile if they have no reason.We can take many languages into misperception even horses.(=
baltocribs 2 years ago 2
LOL !!! The french don't smile if they have no reason! Oh, that's delicious xD Being french, I'll have to try to live up to this strange reputation we have ! (I had no idea french people gave this impression to foreigners xD)
kanamoon 2 years ago
who say that french dont smile without reason? first time i hear that
catalinux007leiro 2 years ago
I know, it's the first time I hear that too! It's "Baltocribs" who said it, if you scroll down a bit you'll find his comment xD
kanamoon 2 years ago
i tink he is british or american, and that say all
catalinux007leiro 2 years ago
if the horse is angry and have the chance to attack, it would attack.. but it doesnt, the horse just does what the trainer asks for... in this case i think the ears just means concentration
lskfls 2 years ago
@NakuruNebelung I agree that when horses are "listening" and put their ears back they have a different expression, however the horse is performing the action without cranking his tail or champing his mouth, so I think it might be that the horse is just concentrating very carefully and has put his ears back in response to that.
zhivana 1 year ago
@NakuruNebelung Why, damn, people always pay NO attention to these horses' FACES, their expressions, muscules of the face, body language????? EVERYTHING united in one??? It's not possible that ears alone say "ok, i'm angry now. Or no, wait, no, now i'm disappointed."
???
fleur4198 1 year ago
@NakuruNebelung the ears go back with concentration and fast movement. watch a horse galloping all out sometime for fun in a pasture. the ears are back.
rabbitsunlimited 1 year ago 3
@NakuruNebelung this is not true his ears are back because the horse in making a big effort you'll also see that whene horses are galoping as fast as they can the horse at 0:31 is just concentrating on what the man is asking him that's all^^
crazymangas 1 year ago
@crazymangas If that would be true, horses who do dressage or jumping would have those ears too, and they have not.
I've been riding horses 14 years and when they are trying harder the ears are different, that's what I've seen.
NakuruNebelung 1 year ago
@NakuruNebelung you may be right it's diferent for every horses, i've been riding for 10 years and learn ethologie with great pleasure and i can promess you those horses are not hurt or anything at all if it were true they would never have that kind of result ^^ my horse put his ears in the exact same manners whene i make him galop with me and that she flip out (sorry for my terrible english i'm french^^)
crazymangas 1 year ago
@NakuruNebelung A lot of horses have their ears back as is... I knew a gelding, and when he was turned loose with no one in the ring his ears were back... Just like some horses swish their tails a bunch... Some horses tuck their tails into their body, some flag their tails even when they're unhappy. Learn the horse and it's own personal body language, and not ones you find in library books.
FencesorFlat 1 year ago
@FencesorFlat That's because waving tails, in a horse language, means unhappyness or discomfort.
NakuruNebelung 1 year ago
@NakuruNebelung As I said at the end of my previous post, you can't box up every horse into one body language. I spend hours watching a horse in the pasture freely to get to know the horse better, lol. It does it 90% of cases, but not all. I knew a mare, and in her happiest times her tail wass swishing and flicking, she just did it a lot. Just as I said, like some horses flag their tails reguardless of what they feel.
FencesorFlat 1 year ago
@FencesorFlat And there was nothing wrong with her back or something?
lskfls 1 year ago
@lskfls Nope, nothing. No nervous system problems, she just swished it a lot. It was a concern to the owners, but they tried to get to the bottom of it, when there was nothing to figure out :P
FencesorFlat 1 year ago
very impressive!!!
SiesgutesMaedchen07 2 years ago
that's beautiful...truly beautiful.
this is the kind of school you could get me to go to very willingly!
it reminds me a lot of Parelli Natural Horsemanship and what Tommie Turvey does
rabbitsunlimited 2 years ago 2
it's incredible but it's possible.. and you know why? because they love their animals, and with love any animal is like that
pikininhah 2 years ago
Incredible.
l0vekyra 2 years ago
wow...i wish my horse could do that!
dahorseluvers 2 years ago
This is what you call a true bond with a human and horse. When you can do this with barley any command, its a great friendship. I hope to make a bond with my mare one day that's just like this.
emilyandbabydoll 2 years ago 3
beautiful. these people are wonderful.
ReiningOverYou 2 years ago
its wonderfull ...
FreakyPrincessDeluxe 2 years ago
de paarden kunnen echt veel trucjes
lotte332 2 years ago
I am in love with this concept!
LadyBlacksheep 2 years ago 2
dommage que ce n'est pas en français
très belle vidéo
LunaetNouba 2 years ago
it's so good!!!
poncsiiiandartur 2 years ago
just a thought...............maybe its time man gave horses a break from us..........i think they deserve a rest from mans ego..........
yaopasha 2 years ago
PRECIOSO!
miguelithho 2 years ago
I think useing the rope around the neck is a good change from the bridle and reins because many riders, when taking breaks from workouts, will simply let the reins fall and that developes problems for the neck because of the weight distribution on the front legs, causing the horse to fall forward. That horse at 0:57 is beautiful!
Simplyblissfull 2 years ago
cool (: i'ld live to know who to do that to my horse (:
Emma11555 2 years ago
How do you train collection and other horse tricks like that
How do you get him to follow your commands like that without negative reinforcement??????
thatperson195 2 years ago
um. . i would guess from experience repetition and good rewards. . .this lady i know that teaches her horse aweosme tricks like this says she just talks to him
EygptianNight 2 years ago
Hm. Where do you see a lady here??
fleur4198 2 years ago
Everything would be allright, except the fact that he is Nevzorov, king of propaganda.
GeSpintoje 2 years ago
GeSpintoje what do you mean?!..
LaTulipeRouge 2 years ago
What do I mean?Firstly I mean that his past is unclear; he was too much involved in Soviet Union politics and was spreading propaganda against Baltic countries to the world, On January 15, 1991, in his program he approved brutal actions of the Soviet authorities in Vilnius, Lithuania, during the Vilnius massacre. And about horses.. Offcourse, he does a good job with horses, though, it seems he still hides too much anger towards other people.
GeSpintoje 2 years ago
Oh no I'm sure he's not keeping hatred to people, I suppose he's just an extremely resolute, firm and serious man, he fights for his beliefs. And maybe he had the reason for doing all this you told about... I don't know. But nevertheless I love him so much for all he has done! I wish there were more people like him.
LaTulipeRouge 2 years ago
While I acknowledge that it is a nice concept, everything we do with horses requires some form of control. It is a dominant/submissive relationship. That doesn't mean beat or bully a horse but there has to be a certain amount of respect or you'll get hurt. He controls his horses without a bridle, but it's still controlling them and you can't gain horses respect just through love and carrots. They had to have been taught to respond through other aids. It's all a bit misleading, I think..
bandgirl987 2 years ago 4
I think they were just trying to show the public that horses and their riders can do everything that others can do with bits/spurs/ contraptions/ etc. Plus I think they were using different words for the meaning you are saying here, It's a marketing tactic.
PolloPonies 2 years ago
Fair enough.
bandgirl987 2 years ago
Daisyfields, "originally outlined by Xenophon the Greek, derive from defensive horsemanship created for war and predated-dated the birth of Christ by some 400 years. These spectacular leaps and plunges were originally meant for use by mounted riders to inspire terror in the hearts of foot soldiers." they were indeed used in battle... what are your references, that support your saying that it is misunderstood??
stephanividrine 2 years ago
They weren't actually used in the fighting though. They were used beforehand. The book written by Xenophon himself is one source. He mentions the training of levade, for example, for use in parades for its beauty. It was not used during fighting, nor was the capriole. In the forms we know them they were not used in battle. Think about it. All of them, except the capriole, expose the underbelly of the horse, the only area not protected by armor and the most sensitive.
daisyfields 2 years ago
Forms of leaps and high collection movements were used for manuevering, but not the airs in the cpacity which we know them. They would expend far too much energy and serve almost no purpose, along with putting the horse and at incredible risk of death, which would most likely result in death for the rider. If you are going to talk about Xenophon, at least read his book first to understand more what exactly was used of what back then.
daisyfields 2 years ago
the kicking out was originally used in war times when the horses were in the battle field, it is not cruel or calculating.
coltboy6 2 years ago
That's a very large miscinception. The airs were not used in battle; they were used in parades, demonstrations, and things like that to show the training of horse and rider.
daisyfields 2 years ago
wow, it´s amazing!!!
0o0Kris0o0 2 years ago
what breed is the horse at the second 1:26, the black one ? pls reply me
cdjmk1000 2 years ago
Vrailent magnifique tout sa fait en cordelette sans mors ni bride et tout a la voix !!!
isulaorphe 2 years ago
tise is A dreem for horselovers!!!!!!
Friesgek 2 years ago
Oh my!!!
This is above and beyond Monty Roberts! I want to learn more!!
Please post more vids!
Tatelina 2 years ago
It is maybe that the horses have their ears backwards, but it is not that they miss like Nevzorov.
It may be that they do not thrive.
You must remember that there are some people who are on the stand and makes some noise as the horses are not quite accustomed to.
Did the horses really miss like to be there and be trained / be done drills, they had actually hurt him!
It may also be that the horse miss love to be "hers with" because of something in the past.
PillowMDS 2 years ago
this hilarious!
the horses ears are pinned back and they are kicking at his head.
sitting on a horse while its on its back?!
disaster in the making
thugsxneedxhugs 2 years ago
LOL, i agree. Those horses don't look happy at all. I mean some of it looks beautiful but look at 37 secs. He taps the horse on its bum and it kicks out. How is that good?
schnapps1992 2 years ago
true dat lol.
im on team bits and spurs
thugsxneedxhugs 2 years ago
Yes, jsut force the horses to do what you want, clear^^
These horses are happy, i think. Their wouldnt do things like that if they would be unhappy or would have had no trust in their trainers, and if they would abuse them for things like that, there wouldnt be ANY trust. So maybe think about what youre saying, before writing ;D
xXElelChanXx 2 years ago
hum, the horse was asked to kick...that is called airs above ground have you ever seen the spainsh riding school?? levade, capriole,croupade, courbette all those are variations of the horse leaping and kicking :-)
stephanividrine 2 years ago
I no, but why? I love the collected work without bits and I love the way the horses don't have to be forced to work but I just don't understand why they want their horses kicking out on demand.
And btw, bits and spurs are not the problem really. It's the people who use them badly. You can use both spurs and bits and still have a happy horse as long as your not cruel.
Why are they allowed to use great long whips but a spur is not allowed? Surely in the wrong hands their whips are just as bad?
schnapps1992 2 years ago
well back in ye olden days the horses were trained to kick out on command that way when the riders were out on the battle field they could have the horse kick at an enemy behind them or rear up and stomp down on enemies in front of them, i too agree that anyone can be a great rider with bit... just as anyone can be bad and jerk on the reins or unknowly used the reins to balance themselves, and the horse suffers- steph
stephanividrine 2 years ago
yeah, I supose that could be useful in war but I just don't see the point anymore. I don't actually think it's bad, it's just odd that they still make horses horses think kicking out is good. But at least you have a nice balenced opinion and aren't slating me for agreeing with bits xx
schnapps1992 2 years ago
Yes true we dont use horses in war anymore, but why do people do hunter, jumping their horse? what is the point in that too?? Personally i would like to have a well rounded horse in case there was a major castrophte and we couldnt have gas for our car or electricty at least i have transportation my horse LOL
stephanividrine 2 years ago
are you serious.. look up the Lippizans and the Spanish School of Riding in Vienna.. They practically do ballet on horseback and that movement is called a Capriole. It's very beautiful.. the horse was not kicking out in anger.
AnitaUhh 1 year ago
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LoulipopJS 2 years ago
you're the greatest horse trainer
I've seen in my life!
good look!
BLuBB3004 2 years ago
hmmm. this man seems somewhat hypocritical. he seems to say that all horses are capable of this type of movement, this type of complacency. i really dont care whether or not this man can make a horse jump to the moon and back without a bit...he's still forcing them to do something...hes still asking them to do something that they probably dont want to do. really... what horse "wants" to live fenced in? what horse "wants" to be around humans period?
beautiful0soul 2 years ago
left to themselves...horses would not come near humans if they weren't somehow "forced" to or asked to. so, whether or not this man has created some type of incredible bond with these animals, he is still asking them to do something"beyond their nature".
beautiful0soul 2 years ago
horses werent made to carry humans...so maybe he should stop riding cause that would be considered "cruel." people who ride with OMG bits! are no different that people who ride with corderos. corderos are still a form of control. despite the fact that they are more subtle and less able to do harm...they are a form of CONTROL. period.
beautiful0soul 2 years ago
How can you imagine a soft rope, 1cm in diameter to control a "dangerous" (it is like this horse seems to you?? SomeTHING that has to be taken under control..) animal weighting 500kg?? Just logic
fleur4198 2 years ago
Why are you putting quotes around the word dangerous? I never even mentioned anything about danger in my post. And I also don't understand this whole thing you've said with "someTHING that has..." I'm saying its a form of control which, from reading his little commentary on his website, is something he abhors. I'm saying that ANYONE, whether you use a bit or a rope or nothing, is attempting to control a horse. Period.
beautiful0soul 2 years ago