Communism: The Promise and The Reality - Red Flag [pt 1/6]

[Faighbas]

"Free Territory, the Paris Commune, Catalonia, Early-on Castro's Cuba"? VERY POOR examples! The Paris Commune was mostly run by Social Democrats who's policies would not seem out of place in most western European countries today and "Early-on Castro's Cuba"? WTF? Castro MURDERED people who did'nt agree with him! Who voted for him?

"the only Capitalist nation on earth is Somalia"? I won't even comment on this retarded statement! Fact is, North Korea and Cuba are the only commie countries left!

[ImRussianJew]

@MrMcGale i not own u any explanation

[MrMcGale]

@ImRussianJew You don't?

[ImRussianJew]

@MrMcGale I'm responding bcz your my pet monkey, you are entertain me and same time i learning to speak English ...

[MrMcGale]

@ImRussianJew Aaaa, okay then.

[ImRussianJew]

none of u knows what you talking about-none..- all u fed w same ppl who ruling the world: Zion Jews!! Both Zion Jewish Capitalism & ZionJewish Communism accomplish their objectives, & both use Jewish religious maxims as bait.They misled the Russians 2 believe that by destroying their own Russian nation by stealing the land Instead from "rich". Jewish Zion Capitalism is doing the same to America. Lenin was Zion Jew, so is Stalin, look at US gov..start w D.Eisenhower..same in England, France..etc

[MrMcGale]

@ImRussianJew ... Antizionism leads to retardness.

[ImRussianJew]

@MrMcGale its only lead to..you already retarded :) that's worse :):):)

[MrMcGale]

@ImRussianJew Really, are you an antizionist?

[the70z]

Nobody rose to defend communism because they had been oppressed and were scared to even leave their houses. However, capitalism has rammed the poor into worse conditions because of the secret police

[EpicFilip]

Ask yourself: If the USSR was so perfect why there was absolutely ZERO reaction from any citizen when it dissolved?? Just a failed coup which didn't even had any conflicts, that was led by someone who wanted to take over power as usual. Also go to Russia and tell them that the USSR was good. You will be dead in 5 minutes.

[Subliminalverse13]

@EpicFilip

What the heck are u talkin about? Ask elder people and they will tell u that they lived way better in the USSR rather in current Russia, where the oligarchs, mafias and rich corrupt bastards are swimming in tons of money while normal people live in poverty.

Btw the "zero reaction" stuff is bullshit, read about the Soviet Union referendum of 1991

[EpicFilip]

@Subliminalverse13

Well, when the USSR collapsed, nobody found the will to go out in the streets and defend it. They didn't fought, they didn't resist enough to keep this "outopia" alive. The corrupt bastards are also remnants of the USSR. They held positions in the new government. Also the referendum was held during an economic crisis. durr

So there.

[Subliminalverse13]

@EpicFilip

Still what u said wasn't true. Most people wanted to keep USSR alive, but perhaps didn't dare to take weapons and fight for it cause they have been living in peace since the Red flag was rised upon Reichstag. The USSR wasn't perfect, but still more fair than nowadays Russia, although the economic situation worsened in the 80's. And no one will "kill u in 5 minutes" if u tell people USSR was good. For many people it was actually better.

[MrMcGale]

@EpicFilip People are saying that at the very moment. Russians are protesting with the flags of USSR against the recent election which was "unfair"; as they say it.

[fruitikay]

@EpicFilip There are quite a few Russians on youtube who would disagree with you. Many of them still love Stalin. 

[MrMcGale]

@fruitikay True, oddly enough.

[muddywood]

There is no perfect economic system.

Capitalism is just the least worst of them all.

[muddywood]

My father lived under communism. It was hell.

[sanyo1974]

Rusian managers & governors were corrupt, selfish, ambitious, and make business with the assets of the people. Many people was benefit, yes, but others suffer the atrocities of the Rusian government, one thing is the lies that comunism said to manipulated the people, but his leaders, they care about themselves. I see with my eyes the business that had the comunist governors make. And this utopia was fail, because the consciousness of man only seeks the benefit of himself not to their comrades.

[mynameisdivel]

@sanyo1974 People are different and not all people are selfish and many things depends on upbringing. Unambiguously that capitalism brings greed and selfishness that is the necessary things for survival in this system

[S0ryiu]

Communism doesn't work, capitolism doesn't work.. we have yet to find an economic system that actually works. (aside from theft of course.)

[Brdj010]

@S0ryiu Capitalism is far from perfect, but it doesn't have the blood on its hands that communism does. Communism is just an all out failure all around.

[S0ryiu]

@Brdj010 but doesn't it? what about corporations running private buisness into the ground? what about people being over worked and underpaied untill they are physically unable to keep working and don't have the money for medical bills? what about people being fired just before retirement so they can't get benefits? Capitolism has just as much blood on it's hands as Communism, they are just slower and less direct at killing you.

[Brdj010]

@S0ryiu Or maybe it is just the average lifespan of people. You seem to agree that communism doesn't work either, so I will let you off the hook with that one, but communism has still been far worse than capitalism. Capitalism mixed with socialism works.

[xrey2000]

Communism is always rule by the peasant working class who are mainly uneducated, its like letting the union run the country. They are the people who don't have the brains or skills so they don't want anyone else to be better then them.

[Coolybtb]

WTF monarchy are you crazy? Wow....

[Britishguy18]

*sighs* if the Monarchy was never put down from the tsarist age then none of the victims of communism would have been victims instead proud royalists with heads up high in praise to the just Monarchs who are truely just to rule over them for the good of them which is what Monarchy is for. Governing for the good of the people of the land and that is how it was, is and shall always remain to be the definition of the best system of government ever made!

Long live Monarchy!

[extremeeXrement1]

@Britishguy18 you do realise the communists stalin and mao were practically monarchs as well as hitler

[4werr0n3]

I'm no communist either but why don't these capitalism worshipers make a documentary on colonialism ? The Americans wiped out all the natives, supported Polpot,Pinochet, Suharto and most African and latin American dictators.They supported Iraq against Iran and Turks against Kurds. Belgium killed 10 million in Congo,America raped and killed 3 million Koreans,dropped nukes on japan...the list goes on.It seems evil can only be perpetrated by communism never by capitalism/colonialism.

[saphiredewdrop]

@4werr0n3

i agree. we like to point fingers but never look at our own crap.

[carmen510]

@4werr0n3 For your information, the People's Century (this documentary series) did actually make episodes on colonialism, one on decolonization and the other mentioned in imperialism. They also talked about dictatorships supported by the United States during the Cold War.

[constructivereconcil]

@carmen510 "the People's Century (this documentary series) did actually make episodes on colonialism, one on decolonization"

And so what? Oversimplify & your statement means nothing. "Colonialism" is not parallel to communism. Communists can "colonize," liberal democracies can colonize. Colonialism is neither bad nor good innately. It's just indicating a relationship. Without colonialism, the world would be a much sicker place. It's no longer essential, thanks to the earlier development.

[carmen510]

@constructivereconcil If you had taken the liberty to see the original comment, you should see that I was only informing 4wee0n3 that these "capitalist worshipers" made an episode on colonialism. I was not discussing anything political or semantic, and was not expressing any personal viewpoints that I actually hold.

[constructivereconcil]

@carmen510 "capitalist worshipers"

"not expressing any personal viewpoints that I actually hold"

Not overtly.

[carmen510]

@constructivereconcil ... You do realize that "capitalist worshipers" was a quotation from the original person, right?

[TCG11]

this documentry doesnt help for shit such american progoganda. not that im a communist, but this is just utter crap.

[Subliminalverse13]

stupid american propaganda, whoever believies this shit is just a retard.

[pastimacku]

@Subliminalverse13 That's what I had known before I even opened this link.

[Brdj010]

@Subliminalverse13 It is based on interviews with actual people who were there, idiot. Communism is a utopian idea that never works.

[EpicFilip]

@Subliminalverse13 It says something that doesn't confirm the purity of my ideology, PROPAGaNDA!!!!!

[vaggelisvbts]

@EpicFilip true...

Communists have the same mind everywhere.They are even capable to say that Mao and Pol Pot were great leaders and everyone who disagrees is a fascist/capitalist scum.

Just give me a break lol

[MrMcGale]

@vaggelisvbts Mao was an asshole, and he, with Pol Pot and Stalin, betrayed Communism. They never believed in an equal, classless, stateless, democratic system, which communism is.

[EpicFilip]

@MrMcGale Communism will always leed to authoritarian corrupted regimes. That is because it claims that its the ultimate destination of humanity, and demands every citizen to accept it. Dissidents are always killed off. There must be a reason why EVERY commuist regime ended or mutated to Manchester Capitalism or plain old dictatorship, Korea style.

[MrMcGale]

@EpicFilip No, no, no. You're talking about Juche and State-Socialism. When did it claim to be the "ultimate destination"? Oh, and Marx himself condemned political prisoners and Capital Punishment.

USSR: Never communist, but Leninist and Stalinist

N-Korea: Never Communist, but Juche.

China: Bourgeois dictatorship.

Cuba: Castroist, Juche. Never Communist.

Free Territory did not fall down to dictatorship, but even blamed the USSR for being a dictatorship. Then, USSR massive army destroyed it.

[EpicFilip]

@MrMcGale I'm saying what actually happens in reality not in theory. Those non-communist "communists" were supported by real communists, as were their regimes. Yet not one "true" communist pointed out that Stalin and his kind were wrong. Or perhaps they did and ended in the Gulag. So you know why those non-communist "communist" regimes were supported by communsts? How did they rose to power? Its because Communists are sheep that blindly obey authority, as long as it claims to be Red.

[MrMcGale]

@EpicFilip True, unfortunately. Though Stalin killed many former Red Guards for being "Too left". Stalin sent both Capitalists and Communists to death. Communists need a true leader, who can create a -bloodless- revolution. No true Communist could kill a person. The totalitarian State-Capitalists lied. So do everyone. I have know loads of old communists, and not a single one of them has ever supported the doings of USSR and the Bolsheviks.

[EpicFilip]

@MrMcGale The point still stands. Communists are communists, because they like to be ordered about, they need a master. They want to be slaves. They want to give total power to the state. They go against every western value of freedom, only to fulfill their outopian fantasies about ending war, fear, hunger. Yet they themselves brought all those terrors. Their fanatisism blinds them of the truth and rational thought. They are just slaves with no master.

[MrMcGale]

@EpicFilip ..No. You've very much proved my point. You know nothing of what Communism is. Every western value of freedom? The west still has the DEATH PENALTY. Freedom is freedom, not the freedom of some. Equal rights to everyone for everything, or nothing. In Communism, nobody has the authority to be a literal leader of the people. Everything is chosen by the people. From the people, to the people.

[EpicFilip]

@MrMcGale So many things wrong here.

I know about the theoretical, outopian Communism. Stop running and hiding in your theoretical bunker, look at the REAL WORLD and what happened trying to achieve it.

Death penalty is a punishment for crimes. Does not restrict any liberties if used in the appropiate ways, for the appropriate crimes.

Nobody has the authority within a group of people?? You understand what the fuck you are saying, right?? Thats why Stalin came, because that doesn't work.

[MrMcGale]

@EpicFilip Utopian communism? You must be speaking of Marxism, true Communism. In true Communism, there are no leaders, no state.

Yes, I know. But those people(Lenin, Guevara, Mao) did not understand that to achieve Communism, you must first go through Socialism, and then slowly towards Communism. They did not read Marx's books.

No. Death Penalty is murder.

Stalin wasn't a Communist, USSR was State-Capitalist Authoritarian, Not Communist.

To understand Communism, you must read Marx.

[EpicFilip]

@MrMcGale For fuck sake. I KNOW that they weren't communists by definition, they were a strange mix of two failures-- But they wanted to do what Marx wrote about. It might shock you, but what the man you worship wrote might be wrong *GASP!*. His shitty book (that I read) is just that. A book. Not depicting reality. Completely ignoring the technical details and difficulties, he created a outopia --in his book. And what those who sought to fulfill his dream brought, was the Dark Ages.

[MrMcGale]

@EpicFilip They weren't. Capital Punishment, Direct Democracy, no state, no vanguard party, no money, no private enterprise, no authority of one man, no secret police, free and compulsory education, pacifism and anti-militarism, Laicism, freedom of individuals, people can won houses, from each according to his ability to each according to their needs, the collective theory, nationalized bank, public government.

They didn't follow these things, and were no Communists.

[EpicFilip]

@MrMcGale All those things, they did those:

a)Because they wanted to do this??

b)Because they tried to do all the good things you mentioned and they failed??

Also, "from each according to his ability to each according to their needs" is a flawed and terrible principle. Communist countries were poor because there was not one good reason to be a producer in a communist society. Civilization was created because man wanted more than a cave, a hut, his continent. Not out of benevolence.

[MrMcGale]

@EpicFilip A) No, most of them didn't. Mao did at first, but he changed his mind.

B) Lenin and Guevara were the only ones that tried.

From the people, to the people. Also, Free Territory was economically powerful, though it was Communist. You see, those people didn't understand that Communism cannot just become, it needs to be achieved through Socialism, then Direct Democracy, and after that, Communism. And wrong. Did a caveman have money? Nope.- He also did not have greed, but companionship.

[Faighbas]

@MrMcGale COMMUNISM DOES'NT WORK!!! FACT!!!

Show me just one example of communism EVER being successful!

If Communism is such a great system, then why do these regimes have to build walls and minefields with armed guards that shoot people on site that try to escape to the "evil" capitalist countries???

BTW! You don't need to have money to be greedy! There will always be someone that wants to possess something that they themselves do not have, be it friendship, gifts, love or FREEDOM!!!

[MrMcGale]

@Faighbas Free Territory, the Paris Commune, Catalonia, Early-on Castro's Cuba. Also, the only Capitalist nation on earth is Somalia. Isn't it a wonderful place? Those nations are Authoritarian Socialists/State-Capitalists. Not Communist.

Oh I know that. Manipulation. But the whole idea of the Revolution is not to only evolve the world, it needs to transform the humans. Friendship is not owned, gifts are not owned, love is not owned, freedom is not owned. C'mon, base some facts.

[Faighbas]

@MrMcGale "the whole idea of the Revolution is not to only evolve the world, it needs to transform the humans. Friendship is not owned, gifts are not owned, love is not owned, freedom is not owned"?

YES they are owned, as they are something that an individual possess's! Marx decrees like you said the "need to transform humans" by taking away people's FREEDOM to mould them into good servants of the state! The state tells you what to think, who your friends are, who you can love and what to love!

[MrTollfreenumbers]

We must first perfect Socialism before we can achieve Communism.

[zhukov1927]

the capitalism...in a whole world must be fall in down first...then soviets will be in reign

[ahhhhjjjj]

It's not fair to judge Communism and Socialism by the USSR. That was one situation. They had their own needs. The revolution went the way it did because it had to. Russia wasn't ready for communism. However on the other side of the coin it was "Soviet" Socialism that industrialized Russia within a single generation. A model that the Western Capitalists could not have spread.

[06hurdwp]

Rasputin is the antichrist. He is the one who brought down the Tsar and allowed Communism to succeed.

[ehunter2]

Why not call the Bolshevik Revolution ..the Jewish Revolution to Destroy White Christian Europe? Hmmm? Jews..3% of population...80% of Bolsheviks Marx..Jew Engles ..Jew Trotsky ...Jew Kagonovich, Jew Yadoda ...Jew Zinoviev ..Jew Kamenev..Jew Radek,..Jew Litvinov..Jew Berman...Jew Bronstein,..Jew

[mattaki]

commies suck.

[RebelSonBand]

China wants to bail the EU and USA out of this crisis......They got the money,we dont..

[dakotatreacy101]

Fact is, in Theory Communism seems good, human greed is the only thing stopping communism from really working.

[AduneStormwind]

Lenin's folly really when one thinks about it is that he didn't take into account human nature. Communism is a lovely system IF it could be implimented properly. Problem is people are selfish and greedy. And Lenin couldn't run everything himself of course. So while I do believe he was altruistic in nature. His entourage was not and basically those who saw Communism as a means of self agrandisment took it and it became so very corrupt. I don't blame Communism, I blame human nature.

[tomitstube]

side note. the amazing narrator voice i would recognize anywhere. efrem zimbalist jr., who's father was the famous russian violinist efrem zimbalist. sr., a product of czar russia, from rostov-on don, he emigrated to the u.s. around 1911 with his wife alma gluck from romania.. being famous musicians they traveled world wide and simply chose to live in america. zimabilist jr. became a staunch christian conservative (his parents were both non practicing jews). amazing footage.

[5B0YAKASHA5]

Communism has it's virtues, but the vices are too big to overcome-lousy economy and terror among the people.

[Rickyrab]

Okay, so communism didn't work out as advertised. So why not take the good parts of communism (helping the poor, subsidizing public goods and services, holding some property in common) and leave out the bad (gulags, lack of private property, killing people, problems with supplies, dictatorship)?

[riverlioness]

Don't blame the people, blame the politics.

[rpcarnell]

When will someone make a documentary about the Dark Ages, so we can know where we are all going.

[maria610421]

Obama promised the same thing, Jobs, and in reality it was nothing but cheap words menans nothing at all.

In reality the whole of Europe has been taken over by the jews, as they did befor the 1st and 2nd worls war and now they position for WW3. Milliban a Jew covering his Jew name, & his brother, no one should ever vote for the Labour Party again, they are communist.

[Rickyrab]

@maria610421

LOL antisemitism detected

If anyone's taken over Europe it's the Muslims with their whining over Muhammad. Jews? If Jews can be said to have taken over anything it's of course Israel, the Holy Land, and Jerusalem, the Holy City. shalom

[AFRIKTODAY]

@Rickyrab

Holly land to whom? To you maybe for I don't give a damn about Jerusalem! By the way, before Ab-Ra-Ham ( which means in Egyptian "Ra is in his heart"), Jerusalem was the capital of Caannanites whose main deity was Baal-Amun and their main priest was Melchicedek! All this crap about Jerusalem & Judaism is pure colonial politics, nothing to do with religion for if we go back in the past, Jerusalem was founded by Caananites!

[broersz]

darwinism and communism is satanic. the biggest threat to human kind.

communism attempts to transform men into controlled beasts.

better dead than red!

[patsyd80]

germany is to blame for communism aswell as naziism. karl marx? and helping lenin so he could take russia out the war? we have alot to thank germany for dont we?

[AFRIKTODAY]

When will someone make a movie about the fallacy of "corporatism"?

[Rickyrab]

@AFRIKTODAY

Didn't Michael Moore already do that with "Capitalism: A Love Story"? And, of course, he makes plenty of money off his movies, so he's not exactly innocent of the very thing he complained against. LOL

[AFRIKTODAY]

@Rickyrab

Micheal Moore does not understand what capitalism stands for; he is a confused Marxist as Marx was a confused class theorist!Regardless, corporatism is the alliance between the State and private corporations with the objective of cartelizing specific markets for the benefits of both parties at the expenses of the wide society. Socialism is the systematic economic cartelization with the State taking over the entire economy. Moore is an ignorant selling crap to people.

[kaczka81]

art least this dude has/had something to be proud off, something to die for... i'll be damned if i die "for" obama

[titowasagoodman1980]

Democratic countries, or countries that claim to be democratic,The U.S, Germany, South Africa, Rhodesia and most of the world's governments(...which have modeled themselves after the American system...if I may add) Have had some period of government repression and terror...does that mean that democracy is bad? Does Apartheid South Africa represent TRUE democracy?

[CandelarioGaIvan]

titowasagoodman1980

he US isn't really a democracy it is a republic. But that is nither here nor there.

Communist GOV enslave their people and refuse to let them leave. I can' t think of any democracy on earth that wouldn't let someone get out of they wanted to.

[bapyou]

"every socialist experiment of any significance in the 20th century - without

exception - has either been crushed, overthrown, or invaded, or corrupted,

perverted, subverted, or destabilized, or otherwise had life made impossible for

it, by the U.S. Not one socialist government or movement ... was permitted to rise or fall on its own merits; not one was left secure enough to drop its guard against the all-powerful enemy abroad and freely and fully relax control at home." - William Blum

[jetitah21]

thx 4 posting this video, finally i could do my history project without any worry! hahhaa

tomorrow im gonna have an A!!!

[metalmellow69]

@jetitah21 do yu go to Warren?

[2390ALE]

capitalism, democracy is still the best way to govern a country ! if you can't get a job and are poor , dont blame democracy, blame yourself ! the capitalist world has always been more rich and fair then the communist world ! even russia today is doing better then when it was communist . communism is nothin but lies and corruption, it destroyed my country , and destroyed all that it touched !

[ryaniomitch]

@2390ALE capitalism doesnt work, neither does socialism but we need to find a sort of common ground between them :)

[bhibatsu]

America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.

He went on to say: I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democrat Party has adopted our platform.

[bhibatsu]

Norman Matoon Thomas

Was a leading American socialist (communist), pacifist (disarm productive middle class White Americans), and six time presidential candidate for the Socialist (Communist) Party of America.

The Socialist Party candidate for President of the US, Norman Thomas, said this in a 1944:

The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism (communism), but under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist communist program, until one day America w

[bhibatsu]

It doesn't matter how you define it, it's still pure bullshit, and anybody who can actually read know where it comes from. Egalitarianism is a myth, and for those who don't know, democracy IS communism ultimately for it's principals are communism.

Anybody who thinks communism is a wonderful idea will change that opinion the day he realizes he lives under communism dictatorship.

[bitterbonker]

What caused more deaths, Communism, or capitalism? Now that the capitalists control the world, more men, women & children die every three years from hunger & preventable diseases than died during all of WWII.

Most Americans don't know this because mass media is controlled in this country (like it was in communist Russia--except it's more advanced here).

[nablav]

the reason "socialism" works in europe, it's becouse its based on a capitalist society in which the workers aren't there, but are in the poor countries europe exploits. If european countries wouldn't have the third world to live on things wouldn't be so nice in europe would they, or do u think that the poor worker past in europe caused by the industrial revolution, that led all these revolutions is a thing of the past?. These exploited workers just have been shiped overseas.

[bhibatsu]

Socialism is a transitionary stage between Capitalism and full blow Communism.

Fucking looking it up in Webster ffs.

Socialism IS Communism implemented incrementally.

[kingmafi6699]

Wrong.

Socialism can mean different things to different people but Marx did not specify Socialism as a transition stage rather that was Lenin's.

Communism is the final stage after Capitalism when mankind no longer works for wages and the state no longer exists.

Socialism can mean any movement that strives for a more egalitarian society such as the labor/social democrat movements in Europe or Maoism to the more extreme.

[singingzebras]

The only reason Sweden, France, Denmark, Germany, The U.K. can enjoy? their "Socialism," is because they have a friend across the pond called, "The United States Of America." If they should fall to socialism, it will be a quick hop & skip to communism.

[danielshacalis]

Allende was an elected Communist. Chile was a democracy. He didnt make it a one party state. I dont think we should generalise everything

[kchomer1]

Lenin would have been just as bad as Stalin if he had lived.

[lalo6437]

No No No NO No

[kchomer1]

yes yes yes yes

[kchomer1]

there are a few African nations still arnt there? and many south American nations on there way to becoming Marxist

[dong604]

Hugo "jackass" Chavez is trying to make Venezuela the next Cuba. So, yeah in S. America some thugs like Chavez are trying to bring in their own form of communism. There are totalitarian, or authoritarian regimes in africa, but they're not communist as far as i know.

[kchomer1]

there was one in Africa i forget the name of the country.

[Alkarin11]

and thats not the fault of the idea of communism. its people who use it as an idea to scapegoat their rise to power. if only they set up an actual democrat government from the start...it would be much different, along with the fact many people dont support the idea hence why they have to end up 'getting rid of' dissidents

[openmouthinhales]

Socialism can work with capitalism, i dont see anything wrong with Sweden, France, Denmark, Germany, The U.K. etc.

Russia enjoyed full employment, If you were pregnant you were looked after by the welfare state - with generous payments. They believed in family values, equal rights. Russian people payed taxes and were provided for with free healthcare, schooling and transport .

Europe supports socialist welfare and has done for 60 years . I do believe capitalism works together with socialism .

[chairmanmao89]

isn't Russia loaded with white supremacists though?

[macnos]

Yeah, most Neo-Nazis in the world are in Russia. The ironic thing is that they admire Hitler so much despite the fact that Hitler wanted to use Russians as well all other Slavs as slaves

[rus1rus]

Wrong. White trash in Russia is in the same proportion as anywhere

[joeyXmcc]

i agree im from the uk and i couldnt imagine living with out the nsh the only reason the us's conservative party dont like it cause conservative is that there the people who benefit from health insurance

[kchomer1]

it is all true!

[MrsSolidarity]

you cannot get good fruit grown from a bad seed...communism is a poisoned seed..its sad there are people in the free world that dream of communist ideals.

[burnmetodeath]

An interview with someone who was born in 1882 and was actually there. Incredible.

[Suomipanzerdiv13]

And despite the USSRs downfall, there are still some communist strongholds in the world, including north korea, cuba, vietnam and maybe china (dunno if they still counts as communists)

[dong604]

We can all Thank Stalin and the Red Army for that Hell State known as North Korea. At the end of WW2 the Red Army invaded Manchuria to fight the Japanese thus creating N.Korea. Thanks for the good times Stalin.

[kchomer1]

china was an is just as bad.

[dong604]

True...in fact if China didn't get involved in the Korean War North Korea wouldn't exist today. Who knows how many tens of millions of people died because of Mao.

[kchomer1]

they execute over 10,000 people a year in china.

[lubi125]

@TomDenEnt01

Maybe your right,but look what it brings YOU back!

Tons of cheap stuff and cheap labor!

[TheMEPEH]

@TomDenEnt01 I guess this is why USA owes so much to China. And all the products you consume are made in China :)

Naive white American

[ahhhhjjjj]

@TomDenEnt01 China a Failure? I wouldn't want to live there but failure? XD

[idikitos]

@TomDenEnt01 Communism is failure? Well take a look at communist Russia which in only a few decades was thriving everywhere..education, the arts, sports, literally everywhere...and there was not 1 person who was hungry. A fair system nothing like you ve ever seen. Free health free education Until those reckless rich people of America in cooperation with equally reckless wannabe rich Russians destroyed communism from the inside..so you can now call it a failure. Check your facts before you speak.

[tinydancer1965]

@idikitos Bullshit. Leave the major cities and you can't even find a washing machine for sale anywhere.

[soco13466]

@idikitos Just like a communist to lie. Your rule: When it IS, say it IS NOT. When it IS NOT, say it IS. Enlighten us all about the famine caused by Stalin in the early part of his reign, as complete despot. Oh. We can't mention that; after all, you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette.

[GunsNRosesbitches]

@idikitos Perhaps you should check your facts before you speak. You say all those wonderful things about life in Communist Russia, yet you don't mention that 20 million people were murdered under Stalin's regime. They weren't murdered, they were slaughtered like sheep. You ever heard about the Ukrainian Holocaust? Back in the early 1930s, 7 million Ukrainian farmers were killed intentionally because they resisted Stalin's orders to give up their farms to the state. Its not a story, it HAPPENED

[idikitos]

@GunsNRosesbitches Many more millions of people are murdered every day with the current political system due to poverty, homelessness, crime etc. but you don't see it. I never said I like what Stalin did and trust me very few communists do. But capitalism has killed many more and in such a cunning way that people like you don't even realise it...so don't talk to me about facts.

[GunsNRosesbitches]

@idikitos Excuse me, but you are terribly ignorant. Stalin has deliberately executed or starved MILLIONS of Russians under his name in the most gruesome way. Name me one incident where the US government has done anything of that magnitude to American citizens. Capitalism doesn't kill, its a property theory. People kill people. Those who have been under the communist dogma have murdered people like sheep in slaughterhouses. Western governments and capitalists have never done anything such insane.

[GunsNRosesbitches]

@idikitos If anything, capitalism has saved people from tyranny and oppression under the Communist dogma. Look at China. 500 million people have been lifted out of poverty in the past 3 decades. Prior to that, China was one dirt poor nation under Mao Zedong, a communist dictator. What terrible conditions they lived in. Capitalism has helped China and gave China a future.

[idikitos]

@GunsNRosesbitches You keep telling your story that's fine. I don't see you commenting on what I said...capitalism IS tyranny, capitalism has KILLED millions and still kills as we speak, are you blind? Are you going to stick to what communist leaders did 50 years ago? As if all leaders didnt kill their opposition in the past? Now its 2011 !! What the fuck man?

[GunsNRosesbitches]

@idikitos Capitalism has killed millions? Give me an example where capitalism has killed millions. In fact, capitalism doesn't kill. It's just a property theory in which capitalists own the means of production. People kill people. People under the name of socialism and communism have killed more than people under the name of capitalism and free trade. Give me examples...I am waiting to hear.

[idikitos]

@GunsNRosesbitches I already did but I can give them again. Poverty, homelessness, crime, OIL WARS. And dont you give me this "capitalism didnt do this, people did" cause I can say the same about communism. In communism there's no homelessness and noone dies of hunger right? Crime is much less as well right? Whether a system kills directly or indirectly i dont care. Thing is, PEOPLE ARE DYING in capitalism. Communism had killed people just like any other system did at the time. Come back to 2011

[GunsNRosesbitches]

@idikitos Crime, famine, wars, oppression, tyranny, economic injustice, social injustice, extortions and mass murdering have existed since the dawn of civilization. It is not something that you can attribute to a particular political or economic system. It is rather due to human conflict over resources, territory and the fight for survival. However, some political or economic systems work better than others in the sense that they have created more peace and prosperity than other systems.

[GunsNRosesbitches]

@idikitos The United States has been around for 200 years using a democratic political system and a largely free market economic system. For 200 years the United States has enjoyed more peace and prosperity than almost every nation in the world during this time period. Almost all gruesome events in history have occurred in societies that do not permit political or economic freedom (like communism and socialism). In these societies, people have been oppressed and murdered by their own leaders.

[GunsNRosesbitches]

@idikitos In societies where there were no political and economic freedoms were where the greatest concentration of power have resulted. This concentration of power has resulted in some of the most horrible and gruesome events in world history. I cannot recall of one incident in which the US government has ordered a mass execution of their own American people for dissent, whether political or economic. The idea of every individual to have inalienable rights has been an immense success for peace.

[idikitos]

@GunsNRosesbitches really? you re gonna talk to me about peace? PEACE? The US IS PEACEFUL? REALLY? Well I know plenty of nations that dont think so.. Democracy? Freedom? You really think you have those? Do you know what democracy is? I am Greek I know better... Good for you anyway. Maybe you have 10 million dollars in the bank, so I can understand the lecture about capitalism. Now lets sit back and watch while it falls...you haven't felt it yet but you will real soon, its coming over there ;)

[AFRIKTODAY]

@idikitos Communism was a sucess? Are you out of your mind? Ask the Ukrainian what they think of communism; or the Estonia, Armenian and all the other Nations that lived under the grip of communism!

[MrMcGale]

@AFRIKTODAY Two words: Free Territory. Google it, and eat your words.

[Zukhov1945]

Poor fag, you know the communists don't want to kill millions of people like Stalin and Mao did. Stop eating shit occidental propaganda, there's a motive if communist parties are not illegal in all the world, idiots.

[rasheedux]

No one asks if they want or don't want. The facts show they always end up killing numbers of people for their idiotic ideas.

And talking about communists as a party in state party system is nothing but a joke. It's contradiction to communist doctrine.

[MissyFuck]

Communist hold revolutions which kill people also a lot of the numbers are false, an example of this being Stalins blame for the deaths of millions of his own people in the Ukraine, even though the Ukraine wasn't a part of the Soviet Union until all the death's took place (by the way the Ukraine was supporting nazi germany), the numbers on Mao were released by the CIA a very untrustworthy source, as well as the with in the party who wanted to have a capitalist china, hence China's current state

[ellwyn]

ukraine was a republic of the soviet union from 1922 to 1991. stalin deliberately starved them because the collectives he forced on them weren't producing the outrageous quotas he set for them. he is responsible for their horrific murder by starvation, and i question the conscience of anyone who would defend such a thing.

[ellwyn]

people who try to whitewash the immense horrors and repression of communism are either ignorant or evil. the US is collapsing from within due to the immense weight of such ignorance purposely spread by an evil elite who want the nation to be enslaved to them.

[xymbaline]

Do you have even one brain cell in your head?

If you want to dispute these findings, please show us literal, verified, undeniable results to the contrary.

Your name should be Missy Braindead.

[TCG11]

@rasheedux

You must be American.

communism is a good ideology.American politics isnt perfect iether, a simple choice between two candidates and two parties. that is a crap system too, also first past the post isnt a democratic way of electing a leader. George bush won with out a majority vote.

communism is a good idea, but it is impossible to enforce in a lage country. Communism is totalitarian much like right wing parties ie the Nazis. at least Communism has an good ideology

[murrayisthebest]

@rasheedux How many people have kapitalism killed the last 300 years?

[TheBiggestWolf]

@rasheedux

Indeed, Communism is just as retarded as Anarchism.

[ellwyn]

communists may not WANT to kill tens of millions of people, but have certainly demonstrated a willingness to do so in order to conquer and stay in power, and to let tens of millions starve from rigid ideology. they don't care about any single individual. your life, your freedom mean nothing. only the 'collective' is supreme, which is effectively a small group of elites just as in every society in history. they don't free the people, the rulers are just new, and more brutal than before.

[mirk1500]

@Zukhov1945 Fuck you!! Prove to me that Communism isn't hell. 

[TheMEPEH]

@mirk1500 Go to Comptom, South Central, Detroit, Harlem, Gettos of Las Vegas and prove me America isn't Hell

[Brdj010]

@Zukhov1945 You're an idiot!

[DisidenciaTricolor]

Deberain calcular cuanta gente ha muerto en mano de los gringos y su caputalismo.

[lesmcluffalot]

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