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  • Dana! Kimbo vs tito for his last fight on his contract!!

  • tito needs to stop because if any UFC fighter steps in the boxing ring with a boxer they'd get ktfo

  • @Yashiya24 Not a chance, that's his whole point. A boxer would be taken down and laid on top of for the entire fight and 9 times out of 10 will lose.

  • Jenna Jameson has good ground and pound skills haha

  • Kimbo made his million's an while everyone was talking shit about him an bagging him, He was collecting that money haha. An not to mention he can say he fought in the UFC. So what if he aint the best MMA fighter, he's rich now. haha.

  • this vid is so full of shit... give the guy a go, everyone deserves a go if they think there go enuff and iv seen him beat some good mma fighter... tito would go knocked by kimbo... so would that joker a the start of the vid...

  • take all your bitching and problems up with the promoters, corrupt officials and every other blood sucking leech that has ruined the sports of boxing and mma. kimbo is a man who is willing to fight and put his ass on the line. thats it. he aint running around screaming look at me and reducing the sports to a circus. the promoters do that. he's just a tough guy wanting to fight and asking for a shot. he has my respect and should have any other fighters too.

  • fucking nigger

  • @4321unleashed lol kimbo would beat his ass ....tito can out wrestle him but kimbo has way better hands and i know he could knock him out

  • i think kimbo would be great in the UFC if he trains more in MMA the ultimate fighter situation i cant say he was bad in that fight cause roy nelson did take the pussy way out buy putting his whole body on him and suffocating him while punching the whole round but he did get points for beating Alexander the matt mitrione fight that was bad but with some MMA training he can get back in the UFC if he wants to

  • Whos wants to see kimbo and tito.

  • @miensteveo Tito would destroy kimbo without a problem.

  • @4321unleashed tito gettn weak, fuckn to many porn star probably lol.he a stand up fighter like kimbo.it be a good match.

  • @miensteveo People with low IQ's should have low voices also!Try it!

  • @4321unleashed u should try it...do you even watch ufc. his girlfriend janet jameson porn star dumb ass he be fuckin 2 at a time she bring friend back for him she said in a interview.talkn about low iq lol didnt you see his tito last fight,it was like last week,he got scare didnt really throw any punch before he got knock out.

  • @miensteveo Hey idiot,What does his wife or ex-wife have to do with anything you douche!Next time you reply make it clear in what the hell your taking about you uneducated b***h

  • @4321unleashed i didnt say anything about his wife,where do you even see the word wife in there??? uneducated lol thats you,i said he fuck to many porn stars that why he gettn weak.is that clear enough for you durrrrr .

  • @miensteveo Hey be quite ,others will hear what a retard you are.

    PS That's one ugly picture.

  • @4321unleashed quote my word it had no wife in there, why you try to change the subject Lol you replace ur photo with a fish Lol cuz it looks better? PS just by wat ur sayn i know you aint get pussy. why you even check me out fag.

  • @4321unleashed YOU'RE A SKID MARK IN-SOCIETY'S COLLECTIVE UNDERWEAR!

  • @miensteveo Jenna Jameson*not janet

  • i think he does deserve to fight payper view.He show the world what he can do in a street fight i know its diff. but he bring the money and Everybody way to see him fight.to me whos that guy talking right now i dont watch mma,so i dont know but know who kimbo is.get where im going wit this? is that his brand on his arm?

  • hahaha kimbo would knock tito out if they went toe to toe hahahaha

  • @FordGTmustang2000 What are you smoking ?Tito would crush that loser in about 30 secs!

  • @FordGTmustang2000 Kimbo can't even beat unranked MMA fighters,hows is he going to beat Tito.Kimbo is a bottom feeder.

  • @4321unleashed  Tito sucks himself

  • what Tito said was true....Kimbo got his ass kicked within seconds lmao! ya'll niggas sucking his dick..keep defending him.. haaaa!

  • Fight guys who aren't in the top tier i.e. SETH PETRUZELLI and STILL get crushed in seconds

  • the thing is kimbo atchley trained mma for like a year and made loadz of cash and beat guys who had been in mma for years so how can these guys act like hes no good for how long he trained he done good and he made loadz of cash these guys are jealous because the fans got behind him straight away and he got to the big stage quick were as these didnt have a fan base half the size of his until like 5 years of fighting

  • so did KIMBO eva meet tito inda RING??? i havent seen it yet if he did??? kimbo jus so ya know use eldows to blok in commin SHOTS then front kicks AND KNEES but seriously if ur on da ground onda knees all I WANNA DO IS GRAB DA BACK YO FUCKIN HEAD AND DRIVE A KNEE INTO ITS HEAD.... whispers xa deen screams XARONZON \m/_ _\m/

  • Damn Kimbo, damn!

  • i dont understand why everyone hates n him. he knows he lacks the ground game and he was trying to work really hard on it so ha can do what he loves to do. he was given an opotunity and he took it. he tried to do the best he could with waht was givin to him

  • theres one thing tho that tito needs to relize kimbo done ma for like 2 years then came to ufc and won a fight yes he won a fight in 2009 tito didnt win one in 07 08 09 10 11 wow kimbo will get killed lmao tito aint shit hes trained it all his life he was good but now at 35 36 like kimbo he with a mma back ground cant win a fight and kimbo with a street fight back ground can lmfao tito sucks dick

  • @lee1990lee im not a tito fan but u have to understand that kimbos ufc career ended in like 4-5 fights... so with a huge lack of experience and no ground game what-so-ever tito could deffinetly beat kimbo. btw kimbo fought some pretty shitty fighters before finaly gettin his ass handed to him

  • @HereisNathaniel true,true!!!!

  • @HereisNathaniel What he did prove is that he is a cocky disrespectfull loud-mouth that behaves like a 14 year-old bully.So i guess congrets for that!!!!Thats why kimbo will always be a better person and more honourable fighter-meaning better fighter,not because he is stronger than him-because he isnt but because he respect his opponents.

  • @HereisNathaniel Kimbo is a wannabe-maybe maybe not its not like we know the guy personally,but speaking of the facts tito always talks trash about his opponents and disrespects them,but doesn't have much to back it up in the ring, i mean sure he can beat most of the ufc guys but the real good ones he doesnt stand a chance there are atleast 20 guys in the ufc that are stronger than him and those are the best and i think tito never proved that he belongs with the best of the best.

  • Oh please "Tits'o Ortiz" is the one to talk,he is a little cocky shit-talking punk and with no respect for his opponents whatsoever shows that he will never be a true fighter,and that's why Kimbo Slice is a better and a true fighter regardless who is stronger because atleast he respects his opponents.I am glad Randy Couture puted the "tits'o"- bitch in his place.

  • Could have bet money on this being a rick roll

  • Fuck tito

  • kimbo is a no talent nigger bum.

  • @headhunter0420 Do not say Nigger!

    That is stupid and totally racist! >:U

  • every one knows there is no surgery for retardation or homosexuality. Thus, tito cannot be cured.

  • Always hatin' on Kimbo, hatin' in the truest sense of the word and oblivious about it. Ask yourself.. Did he put himself in those fights..? He got tossed to the wolves over and over again and he never complains. First Dana says he'd get killed and then.. You're all pointing your fingers at the wrong guy, Dana is money motivated, he could give a shit about MMA itself, cleared out all the Asians just to pave a path for his wonder-boy Silva, the pressure made Silva freeze, corrupted a true fighter.

  • @AFeloniousDrunk Agreed. He gets treated like a contest winner who doesn't belong in the UFC, the guy has a big heart and there's no telling how far he could have gone if he was treated like a man and not a chess piece, Dana just wants to make an example out of him to make his meat-head frat-boy steroid infused fighters look elite in some way. Fuck the haters, all you internet stooges typing away like you could withstand half the stress, fuck the UFC, I want PRIDE back goddammit!

  • @AFeloniousDrunk I dont think People hated Kimbo, they hated the people who actually thought he was going to destroy everyone in mma....Kimbo got tossed to the wolves? He fought Bums until he met Roy Nelson and Nelson only wanted to fight him because he would get alittle more popular...Dana not giving a shit about MMA..Sorry thats ignorant. Asian fighters have been in and out of the UFC for years. Theres just not too many at the top level.

  • @AFeloniousDrunk Say it again! True words there!

  • @AFeloniousDrunk silva is finally versing an asian. :)

  • I agree Tito! Lol.

  • lol john rallo is my uncle :)

  • Actualy, you haters, need to watch kimbo training, he do NOT fight on streets anymore, he talks about respect and trayning, humble words... i think the guy deserves a chance... my opinion...

  • ugly kimbo

  • lol thats why his latest fight he fucked up bo cantrell in seconds..who happens to be a veteran mma fighter so dont hate

  • @ghettochild2114 Wasnt that guy on a 10 fight losing streak?

  • Damn tito just put kimbo down bad lol no wounder kimbo is no longer in ufc

  • lol kimbo is just big, MMA peeps would fuck him up

  • ....and crushed he was.

  • tito is all talk thats y he got scared of liddel on the ultimate fighter

  • tito wouldnt challenge kimbo hell gety knocked the fuk out!!!!!!!!

  • @lexusgs3002009 lol tito would put kimbo on his back and beat his ass lol

  • @fleshfuck lmao true dat.

  • it would look just as stupid if an mma fighter had a street fight

  • 20 are Kimbo fans.

  • THATS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPEND HE GOT SMASHED

  • But Tito.... You would also get crushed within seconds against the top tier guys.

  • Tito is a bitch haha and always has been, he cried like a little girl when Liddell fucked him up against the cage and threw a little temper tantrum haha

  • Shut up Tito!

  • I think Kimbo Slice would be MUCH MUCH better at boxing. Honestly I think he would wreck that shit. Thumbs up if you agree

  • @boobookittyfucklick kimbo has a weak ass chin his striking sucks homeless balls and he wouldn't be on anyones level in boxing he would get fucked up especially by james toney kimbo doesn't have what it takes to be a fighter he should go back to the walmart parking lots he should stick to body boxing

  • @XSexualPanda hahaha

  • Kimbo's really a sweetheart. Sure he's more hype than talent, but give the guya break.

  • @gargamel6699 sweet heart hahaha what are you a gay guy or sensitive girl

  • @marshalparshal

    All depends on the day. Sometimes your mom wants me to be one, then the other. But she always gets her way, you know that!

  • @gargamel6699 lol your full of shit

  • @marshalparshal

    Hahaha, OMG! That's exactly what I told your mom, after we messed up her bedsheets with her sweet chocolate ass-sauce! You should have been asleep!

    Sorry bro. I'll be more careful next time.

  • @gargamel6699 lame jokes tranny

  • @marshalparshal

    hehe, lame like your pencil-dick.

  • @gargamel6699 pencil dick huh and you dont even know what you are but stop having pity on yourself because your mum dont love you and your spending christmas in the mental ward

  • @marshalparshal

    Yup. And your mom hid some Oxy from the nurses and we're having a blast! Merry Xmas.

  • bullshit iam a brown skin iam from India and that guys is awesome in brawling

    kimbo slice rocks in brawling technique . others are just jealous of him .

    in my opinon he should switch to boxing .

  • @karansena haha indian kunt dont callurself brown like ur latino u dump of shit.

  • He should really try boxing he would be beast...

  • @Xxskaterdude554xX ya he should

  • @Xxskaterdude554xX - disagree he would obviously be a heavyweight ... i don't see him beating a 6' 5" fighter with long arms and more power then him and likely quicker then him, pro heavyweights are really big currently .. he would never get past their jab and sooner or later would be caught with a hard right .... and against a small banger like tua, ike, it would likely be who ever landed first basically a coin flip .. actually tua would win ..

  • @markdrew3535 But Kimbo Slice still is pretty powerful with his hands...

  • Except that Kimbo beat the shit out of Alexander Houston who was supposed to be a top tierish fighter.

    Yeah Kimbo doesn't live up to his hype so fucking what neither do half the UFC fighters.

  • @gejwaites well you obviously know alot about mma........hes called Houston Alexander :|

  • @LastShotGaming Yeah I know nothing because I put his last name before his first by accident. Damn it that completely ruined my argument. NOT.

  • @gejwaites houston's top tier? wtf

  • @35503550 The key word in that sentence was "was", he knocked out Keith Jardine that counts for something, and I didn't say Top Tier, I said Top Tierish.

  • tito would kill kimbo

  • What they said is 100% true. All the wannabe youtube gangsters defending kimbo are a joke. "say that shit to kimbos face" He would say it to his face in front of kimbos grandmother and still stomp his face. I am not a tito fan, but it doesn't make what he said any less true. After seeing Kimbo on the Ultimate Fighter though, he seems like a nice guy and was very humble. Hope the best for him, but its true he shouldn't be headlining anything.

  • @Hutchdontcare agreed

  • @Hutchdontcare Dude, it's about making money. Who gives a fuck what Tito Ortiz, or anyone else, is saying about Kimbo. Kimbo, like everyone else, wants to live comfortably and if Dana White wants to put him in the Octagon then so be it. These motherfuckers need to stop hating. That guy calls Kimbo's opponents stiffs but could he beat them?

  • @Hutchdontcare yeah many of the other fighters have been doin it since before youtube. Youtube is what really jump started him right into UFC. I think he was offered a chance to fight in UFC and go on Utimate Fighter. As a result he was told to run before he finished learning how to walk. For the time he had to learn what he learned he did well. Plus he stayed humble.  Gotta give him respect for that.

  • @Hutchdontcare what ever mate, i hate fuking hater, give the guy a go...

  • @Hutchdontcare its true what your saying but when your a big drew like kimbo is you can headline as you no the youtube street fights made him a star before he was even an MMA fighter all the kids love that shit now days all the gangester crap ...if you can put bums on seats thats all what realy matters in any sport ...

  • @Hutchdontcare gangsters now their apart of a gang because kimbo is black eh?

  • TITO SHUT THE FUCK UP U LOOSE ALL THE DAMM FIGHTS FUCKEN CRY BABY YOUR OLD NEWS!

  • @stateofenvy He's still much better than Kimbo Slice ever will be

  • @Danielson184  KIMBO'S THE UNDERDOG THATS WHY PEOPLE HATE ON HIM HES JUST TRYING TO MAKE A LIVIN HES STILL COOL BUT THATS JUST HOW I SEE IT.

  • @Danielson184 but he still has more experience than kimbo and you cant deny he was right

  • I think Kimbo could take Cream of Wheat. He'd knock his taint off and who cares about what Tito Jackson has to say he sucked in the Jackson 5 and he sucked in the pentagon.

  • most people would NEVER talk shit to kimbo's face the dude's a fuckin animal!! i wouldn't haha fuck that shit man :) just get high and love life.... and food hahaha

  • fuck kimbo

  • Tito is right kimbo thought that just because he knows how tu punch he could come n be a kick boxing fighter hes so fucken stupid thats why he got his ass kick in the first REAL fight.....

  • personally just cause folks got money to train and all with pros don't give them people the right to hate on the not so wealthy people thats y i hope to see him make it i might could make it big if i had the money but face it everybody is not so lucky guess thats why we're called the under dogs

  • @THEONLYBIGEAZY it doesnt cost anything to be a wrestler. thats how tito started

  • <------ CHECK THIS CRAZY FIGHTS VIDEO

  • well douchebag all he needs is to get better on the ground and he will blow right through those pussys.

  • (funny bingley fight) watch dis video funniest eva fight

  • kimbo is still a beast....

  • @bleemster no hes not, get over it

  • tito was right...but why does he keep losing to liddell?

  • I AGREE WITH THESE GUYS, THIS FOOL DONT DESERVE 2 B HEADLINING MAINEVENTS, HE NEED 2 GO BACK 2 THE STREETS N FIGHT THOSE BUMS!!!

  • kimbo fought low tier guys and still got anal raped..

  • And Tito was right for the first time in his whole life...

  • @MaxStam You know he won 4 matches and only lost 1 but Dana White didn't like kimbo so he didn't really have a fair chance in the UFC

  • tito is a bitch on this season of the ultimate fighter he said hewas going to prove to chuck that he was the better coach and the better fighter chucks team is killing his and chuck has knocked him out like 2 or 3 times

  • @mossomepats81 Tito has never been knocked out, watch the fights before talking out of your ass. Tito has fought the very best fighters in the world and has only EVER lost to former or immediately future champions. In his day, Tito was the baddest man on the planet but injuries have caught up with him...but he'd still beat Kimbo easily.

  • @MessiahUK Actually he submitted to strikes against Frank Shamrock and Liddell knocked him out twice. Although the first time he was dominating Liddell until Liddell blatantly cheated with an eyepoke like he always does and the second time he was dominating Liddell and got caught.

    People like to underrate fighters that they are jealous of and hate. Fighters like Tito Ortiz and Floyd Mayweather talk so much shit and thats why people deny that they are elite.

  • @ChillinAllDayBaby Why did you mention Frank Shamrock? The point I made is that Tito has never been knocked out, knocked out means unconcious. The UFC often says KO when it's really not, no big deal and I'm not about to complain to the NSAC but I'm just pointing out that in the correct sense, Tito has never been KO'd. And yeah, people like to discredit fighters they dislike.

  • @MessiahUK first of all i probably know twice as much about mma and ufc than u plus vs chuck one was tko and the other was ko and he has only had one ko victory against evan tanner and that was only by slam u jackass.......................­..R.I.P evan tanner

  • @mossomepats81, if you feel the need to say you know more than me then you probably don't. Then you show that you get your information from a website instead of watching the fights because if you had watched the fight, you would have seen that Tito, at NO point was UNCONCIOUS. KO means, knocked out, UNCONCIOUS...just because "KO" goes on someones record, doesn't mean that the person was actually knocked out. You're just showing that you have little grasp of MMA or the English language.

  • @MessiahUK .....Dude you watch the Fights. Frank Shamrock made Tito tap due to hammer fists to side of face TKO in UFC 22. Plus, Chuck KO'd Tito twice!!! The only Reason Tito became champ is because Frank walked away as 5 time Undefeated UFC champ. Franks last fight in UFC was pounding out Tito in his prime

  • @surfinkimo what's Frank Shamrock got to do with this debate? Frank beat Tito in Tito's 4th professional fight, not in his prime (that was 5 or 6 fights and 2 or 3 years later) Just because you say something, doesn't make it true...the definition of "KO" is UNCONCIOUS and I repeat, at no time in any fight has Tito lost conciousness. It's a fact, there is no debate.

  • @MessiahUK ..Frank hammer fisted Tito in his 6th pro fight. Get your facts straight. And Chuck did KO Tito against the fence. Tito dropped like a bad habit.

  • @surfinkimo why don't you get YOUR goddamn facts straight! Tito fought twice at UFC 13 as an AMATEUR! As for you not understanding what knockout means, that's your problem, get a fu*king education you inbred tool. All you have shown is that you can read the sherdog fight finder, that thing is barely better than wikipedia.

  • @MessiahUK Dude what's your F-ing problem. UFC 47's loss on Tito's record is a KO!! That means KNOCKOUT Stupid!!! FACT!! and the fights listed are NOT listed as amateur. Amateur fights do not show on Sherdog stupid. If they did then TUF fights would show up. You sure talk a lotta sh?t for not knowing facts!!

  • @surfinkimo it's not my problem that you don't know anything and just repeat what you read on fight finder. Tito was not paid for his appearance at UFC 13 as he was fighting as an amateur (no prize money or contract) TUF bouts don't show up because they are sanctioned as EXHIBITION bouts, not amateur bouts, amateur bouts DO show up on fighters records. You truly are the stupidest person on youtube.

  • if your fighting in UFC that means it's a professional bout you fuckin dumb faggot, everyone knows tito is a bitch who doesn't wwant to fight chuck lidell.

  • @fijiian4life01 Tito competed when still at college as an amateur at UFC 13 for no prize money and under no contract. Do some research before you start agreeing with a known half-wit.

  • @MessiahUK .....Dude you watch the Fights. Frank Shamrock made Tito tap due to hammer fists to side of face TKO in UFC 22. Plus, Chuck KO'd Tito twice!!! The only Reason Tito became champ is because Frank walked away as 5 time Undefeated UFC champ. Franks last fight in UFC was pounding out Tito in his prime

  • No offense i dont like kimbo but tito has no room to talk about top tier

  • @dullahan1847

    i think you have room to talk about top tier when you fought the top tier. win lose or draw, he still fought.

  • Tito Ortiz of all people shouldn't judge Kimbo Slice. Tito faked his injury so he could avoid fighting Chuck Liddell. Tito is a has-been who only fought opponents he could easily beat. He took on Ken Shamrock because he knew Ken wasn't on his prime anymore. Kimbo has heart and he has what it takes to be the heavyweight champion in the UFC.

  • @BASTARDUS1MAXIMUS He didnt fake his injury you moron. He got surgery on his neck. Tito in his prime was beast, now he isnt as good, but he would still beat Kimbo. And guess what, i hate Tito Ortiz. But he did not fake an injury, if anything, like Chuck said, he knew he was going to back out before he did the TUF show. Kimbo may have the heart to be a ufc champ, but he doesnt have the skill. He was the worst HW in the UFC.

  • everyone knows kimbo isn't good at mma that doesn't mean he's not good at fighting. I'm getting tired of you pricks trying to rag on him when he could easily be one of the greatest boxers in the world if he got a good trainer

  • id love to see tito back that shit up against kimbo. even if kimbo lost, atleast kimbo isnt a douche

  • tito would beat kimbo titos a champion kimbos nothing but a peice of shit loser

  • @BRANDONRULES107 lmfao i wanna see u fight kimbo.... if tito fight kimbo in a boxing match.. ill bet u any money kimbo would be all over him...

  • @laosboy75 This is MMA. not boxing. Tito would demolish kimbo in an MMA fight which is the whole topic of this video. kimbo is very over rated and is a 1 dimensional fighter. The best thing kimbo has going for him is he is an extremely humble guy and every interview shows it. he is very open to learn and is always trying to do just that.

  • tito ortiz is a pussy who gets knockedout

  • i like kimbo but hes just not that good but still he has one of the strongest punches.

  • tito would knock kimbo

  • nah wanderlei, shogun, quinton jackson, lyoto machida all would beat prime chuck liddell

  • watch my fight video

  • and he was right kimbos lost 3-4 times now SETH P. MATT M. ROY NELSON (ultimate fighter) GANNON.

  • are yall seriously talking ortiz vs slice dude slice is a bum he will never get to fight ortiz he is getting beat by nobodys like roy nelson and seth petriceli and some fat guy ortiz would murder him standing up with 1 arm and the ice man would laugh at this bum

  • kimbo been getting whooped by amature fighters and he no longer has a mma contract he has been cut thats y he can only beat up people that cant fight he gets killed by good fighters

  • owned by Tito! =P

  • Fuck you faggot you dont no shit about him...fight him in the streets where there arent any rules and then you can talk bitch ass tities ortiz

  • tito ur a bitch

  • tito on a kimbo slice? I wonder how that tastes

  • lol i agree with travie darkie

  • god damn, you guys got whole book with the length of your argumentslol

  • The funny thing is, if Tito and Kimbo were to fight tomorrow, Kimbo would beat the shit out of Tito Ortiz.

  • @TGUNZ562 not true, kimbo has the worst wrestling i have ever seen in the cage.

  • @Fuku2hoe Nope. Tito Ortiz and Matt Hughes had a submission grappling match at Abu Dhabi, what the fuck are you talking about? It wasn't for charity for shit.

  • @TGUNZ562 not really dude...Tito can take Kimbo..he just can't handle Chuck Liddell..

  • @jsantis91 Tito might be able to put Kimbo on his back and keep him there for a decision victory. But, the point is, it would be competitive. Tito is a bum. By far, the most overrated MMA in history.

  • @TGUNZ562 obviously you have no idea what your talking about

  • @FuryofFive You might wanna be a bit more specific. Because if you think Ortiz is anymore than a C fighter, you are a moron.

  • @TGUNZ562 over rated are u joking he has helped ufc get to where it is today .kimbo is a bum fighting no bodys who live in his street his a different thing than steppnig into the ufc hes to slow with bad cardio.

  • @ant2k888 Yeah, Kimbo is a bum, for sure. However, Tito Ortiz is, by far, the most overrated fighter in history. The only reason why he was ever the UFC champ is because Frank Shamrock retired. The only reason Tito kept his belt for 2 years is because he wouldn't fight Chuck Liddell. So, between Frank Shamrock and Chuck Liddell, Tito is a bum.

  • @TGUNZ562 chuck liddell is overrated fighter as well... meanwhile in japan wanderlei was fuckin destroying people if we look this way chuck and tito never been rank1 205lb in world :.....

  • @sirpa89 Chuck Liddell wasn't overrated. He whooped Wand's ass when they fought. Liddell was the truth in his prime. Wand is almost as overrated as Ortiz is. So, I don't know what the fuck you are talking about, other than your a Wand fan.

  • @TGUNZ562 chuck vs wanderlei fight was when both were way past their prime.. Wanderlei didnt look same at all. Back in de Pride FC days when Chuck Liddell went fight there one tournament he got ass kicked really bad by Quinton Jackson... and everyone know how brutally Rampage got ass kicked by wanderlei in pride..

    So already that makes Wanderlei Better fighter than chuck liddell...