Doom II 2d models vs 3d models

[xXblazmodzXx]

3d is better

[ux92]

Aren't this the models used in Doomsday engine?

[giacomopc]

@RyanFreeman96 Kernkraft 400 - Zombie Nation

[RyanFreeman96]

@giacomopc thank you :D

[TheWaynelds]

@RyanFreeman96 not the games audio like it should be.

[Terryracoon]

Models are cool, but the 2d sprites that always face you have a charm to them... Somebody really should notice this and make a High-res sprite pack...

[RedhotIta1]

Where to download Doom 2 reloaded with 3D??? btw i still preffer the 2D. Epic Game!

[1234as1]

@RedhotIta1 Doomsday Kickstart

[RedhotIta1]

@1234as1 glBSP error how to fix O_O

[1234as1]

@RedhotIta1 It won't start?

[waffledude111111]

where do you get this 3d doom?

[RealTwiner]

ZOMBIE! ZOMBIE NATION!

[KCARULO]

Are The Best Versions of Classic Doom 2D and 3D o_q

[KCARULO]

Ultra-Violence

[Jzag96]

I dont wanna seem mean by this, but this is not original doom II. This is clearly run in some other program than Doom95. The HUD is missing, which was originally there. And imp fireballs and etc. Glow. I enjoyed the vid. but i expected the ORIGNAL doom ii, not the new, upgraded 2d version. Again, i dont wanna seem mean.

[PepparKaksGlufsaren]

How do you get 3d models in DoomsDay engine? I can only see lights and shadows...

[chetter7]

hey man it looks good always awesome to see my favorite game of all time in different views

[KrazyKain]

I'm impressed by the ammount of commenters who don't get the point... less commenting on the music, or uploaders 'skill' and more on the actual 3d version of doom...

anyway, I'm curious.. is this a model pack for one of the newer doom ports (skull tag, zdoom ect) or a completely new client? and if its a new client, is it one that actually uses the Iwad files?

[soulchip2]

who listens to this music? what an asshole!

[TheInventor200]

@soulchip2 excuse me, but I listen to this kind of music.

[LOLDISNEYLAND]

This songs are awesome.. I like them.. my style.

[KeegTech]

Learn to strafe, dude.

[xXAlloy12Xx]

Man can you make a 3d marathon mod

[ultraphaze]

wszystko dobrze tylko hujowa ta pierwsza bron - do gowna podobna

[Frangb7]

song???!?!?!??!?!

[IronwillNeo]

also, the shame at DOOM 3 is the cyberdemon fight. u go all the levels and u expect the combat of the year then u find that piece of cake stupid thing that will never hit you and they killed the fun of killing cyberdemon . . . wtf, soulcube??? I mean, wtf about all the weapons and ammo u get at the beggining of the last level, to kill imps??? that level was a shame being so easy and not being able to kill the cyberdemon with normal weapons.

[IronwillNeo]

DOOM 3 is great because 1 demon can make u fall back and run and the Artificial Inteligence is good even if a bit random sometimes, classic DOOMs used to have tons of demons, a lot more action and better maps . . . could they make great maps with tons of enemies and making some demons to really scare the hell out of you??? hope so, would be the greatest..

[IronwillNeo]

what DOOM 3 dont have that the old DOOMs had a lot are the great and well developed maps. DOOM 3 maps looks like more a one way only, go ahead, fire at whatever comes to you and keep moving. thats no mistery, no big deal. also they used to make more great looking maps before, now they try to be real with structures and all. thats hell, it dont need to be all making sense, it just have to be awesome.

[BillyCauseyjr]

the pistol sucks... his thumb would get blown off by having it back there.....

[TheInventor200]

thumbs up for awesome zombie nation music!

[provendestroyer]

To be honest i think i speak for every die hard Doom fan when i think the sprites are a lot better than the 3-D models. It sorta reminds me when some fighting games like Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter tried to make the jump to 3-D, it doesn't seem right. But the 3-D models reminded me of a fantastic multiplayer game called Goldeneye. But if the graphics were a little refined i think they could be very good. I'd give it a 7 out of 10

[FlashFireSix]

You lagged when playing DOOM? My phone can even play doom without any lag

[NoMac90]

@FlashFireSix Yup, but on what resolution? And which DooM? Original DooM (320x200x256) need 50 MHz. Sourceports running this game on 1024x600 (Netbook) need about 1,6 GHz + graphic card acceleration in addition. A cell doesn't.

[FlashFireSix]

@NoMac90 My point still stands that he must have a slooooowwww PC

[ShadeAKAhayate]

this 3d sucks. Crappy VERY lowpoly models, crappy animation, ugly blurred textures and sprites... And the framerate is just horrible.

My opinion is: ZDoom still rules and DooM must be played in 2D.

[NoMac90]

@ShadeAKAhayate We share the same opinion then.

[BillyCauseyjr]

@ShadeAKAhayate I dissagree to an extent, I feel teh enemies and weapons should be sprites but the enviroments look better running in a real 3D engine. (I also like the blur effects add on for Zdoom.)

[SuperALMA2]

Doomsday engine Download LINK IN MY CHANNEL !!!!

[rockoncam]

2d beter

[rodrigox57]

3d models win

[deepathanu]

Thats doomsday the latest and best is risen 3d 2.2

[LOCOARTSak]

idk why the 3d model of the imp fireball looks like a flaming donut.

i better like the sprites than 3d models

[jeremysart]

@LOCOARTSak I downloaded the 3D model pack and deleted the model for the Imp fireball. Problem solved!

[LOCOARTSak]

@jeremysart yeah, solved for you dude.

i dont like the 3d models cause it feels more like quake for me than doom.

i better like the old sprites

[MrSchmerr]

zdoom im guessing?

[BigFreakingCacodemon]

OMG what folder do I put my risen 3d models in im getting so ticked off!

[Eric999dabeast]

who nos

[DGMRuadeil]

whats with the low fps?

[GiggityGooggitty]

@DGMRuadeil Porn downloads, no doubt. :)

[Gebora]

@DGMRuadeil i dont think he set a higher frame rate in zdsoft, he must of left it on 15

[DGMRuadeil]

thats lower then 15 fps though.. that looks like 5 or so

[cjhydra08]

AWESOME, IT MAKE ME WANNA PLAY WITH IT AGAIN LIKE OLD MEMORIES :)

also learn to STRAFE but u made a nice job and nice music choice : )

[TMacTelevision]

LOL, someone didn't know how to strife during this video, huh?

[dumbasspauldentonkin]

4:38

Music was perfectly timed for rocket launcher

[rdpvader]

3D models aren't bad, but i prefer the classic stuff :D

[TehDoomer666]

@rdpvader They are bad XD

They seem like someone just randomly raped the original doom sprites and put them into some undetailed models with bad animations xDDX This is only my opinion.

[Zackmo92]

@rdpvader

3D doesn't make it better....

I agree with you.

[AVGNfanNO1]

OH BOB SAGET

[Headcrabman99]

Risen3d is also good.

[kdramos16]

they both are great but i think the 2d is better

[spartan2401343]

2s ias better

[PearlJammer07]

The 3D models are great. Where can I download?

[jazbot32669]

i guess he used the doom 3 system

[soopa9]

he used the doomsday engine

[CoTeCiOtm]

It's the Doomsday Engine, there's a mod for Doom 3 called Classic Doom that is just Doom's first episode (the rest was not made because of Copyright problems, I think)

[Illyea]

I used to dodge fireballs like that when I played with keyboard only. It was awesome.

[outlier1985]

Dude... STRAFE! o_O

[hfc2x]

lol the guy is a noob... probably a 6-year old kid

[soopa9]

probably

[ZeCrazyHatter]

does anybody know that id software used doom 2 level entryway to make the hardest map of final doom go 2 it! pretty awesome.

[EmStErPe]

I did know that :P And got suprised when I saw it. But damn, was that map hard.

[rc34l]

they used a lot of maps in that one final doom level lol

[hfc2x]

it wasn't id software... final doom plutonia was made by dario an milo casalli.

also, anybody that owns plutonia know that...

[uberharri]

wow u have very bad aim!.

[deathmetalmachine]

were do you get the download

[mjolnirmark1]

whats the name of the first song?

[BlackMetalMovies]

kernkraft 400 (or 300 :S) - Zombie nation

[ganondorf59]

Firing is 2 slow and it looks incredibly stiff. Also the flashes r 2 small and unreal. Aside from that it looks pretty decent actually.

[Virussse]

Fucking love it, I applause you!

[trollingtheweb]

YOU FUCKIN SUCK AT THIS GAME

[Graccus81]

1) Weapon model too thin/bad proportion. (Load the arms that are used in the fps view to scale your weapon)

[Virussse]

Calm down. Its in the FUTUR. You can make your shooting simulator by yourself.

[Graccus81]

2) Thumb would get caught in the slide movement (The thumb should lock the finger around the grip to give steadiness and strength to the hand holding the weapon.)

[Graccus81]

3) Weapon firing Animation too slow and looks very stiff. (The whole firing action (Fire,recoil,cocking) of the weapon should be done in one second max for semi-auto pistol for example,weapon loaded by hand, like shotgun, can vary.)

[Graccus81]

4) Muzzle flashes not big enough and too much yellow (Try looking at people firing weapon in shooting range or on the web you'll see muzzle flash are rarely seen except if you record it in slow motion.)

If you correct those 4 aspects you will get a way better result for your effort.

[nosehair26]

Sprites > 3D Models

For Doom at least.

[AmericasZeldafan]

Looks more like a quake mod.

[Archvile999]

I prefer the sprites.

[joemunss]

Nice video, terrible music

[AmericasZeldafan]

bull shit! great music!

[dertuman]

crap music

[chanze555]

This sucks I don't know how to mod. :(

[spikelore]

very uncomfortable music

[jonasldg]

@spikelore why i think its pretty cool

[Frangb7]

@spikelore name of the song?

[DXSnakeEater]

yea 2d models all the way!

[zombieplasticclock]

ah, You ment you made the video? I'm sorry, I take back what I said

[bashirov]

nube, learn to strafe!

[KarntheHellknight]

I like Jdoom, and I think it has some nice additions, but I would prefer the oldschool graphics over these anyday. Plus the bad part about Doomsday is the incompatibility with lots of editing work. I'd choose ZDoom over Jdoom. Gameplay before graphics.

[zombieplasticclock]

dude, you didn't make this. this is jDoom, aka Doomsday. in both normal and 3D doom, I see features that are in Doomsday (lighting effects, GL graphics, etc). finally, those models are from the Doomsday website. Yeah, Doomsday is awesome, but don't pass it off as your work

[GiggityGooggitty]

He's talking about the video,you half-wit moron...Jesus Christ...

[awatemonosan]

all of us know what normal doom looks like, no need for the overly long demo of you sucking hard in the begining there...

[Asterothdrakonis]

srry but some ppl DONT know what it looks like and thats why i put that in..

[awatemonosan]

Its preaty painfull having to watch this whole video tho. I would have done it differently.

showing brief shots of the older doom and more choice cuts of the newer stuff. like a 2/1 ratio of new stuff.

[richardmaudsley77]

@Asterothdrakonis Why would someone who didn't know doom want to see a graphics upgrade for it?

Also lol "2D Models". THEY ARE SPRITES.

[Pilotgeek]

@Asterothdrakonis : People who don't know what it looks like aren't going to look up your video in the first place.

[eric29OW]

lol i no the pistol looks like a face untill i got older i saw the gun and im like ohhhh sick lol

[mthmetallica]

yeah dude,you really do.I played better than that when i was 5

[UnknownAccount0]

You really suck at this game.

[LanIost]

If you've played the original Doom 1 or 2 and Duke 3d engine back in the day you would automatically assume that they look like shit now but honestly, they look MUCH better than first generation 3d graphics.

2D graphics started to look beautiful around this time, SNES & PC and Saturn all had amazing 2d graphics. When 3d came out had an ackward phase where it looked way WORSE because there wasnt enough power to do it well. People were just so excited to see 3d playable at all that no one noticed.

[yrcrazypa]

I thought the first shotgun and the pistol were faces for a LONG time. Well, at least I thought it looked like one. Took forever for me to realize the actual shape of the guns, even when I knew what they were called.

[Klocini]

What is this music?

[danielscheil]

Zombie Nation Kernkraft

[Asterothdrakonis]

ummmm....yea..i knew what they were..and i played the game when i was 8...wtf..a bunny? a laptop? wtf kinda drugs you taking that makes you think of that....

[1337Tacomastor]

looks like half-life 1 combined with quake.

[FANADICALCOWHEAD]

when i first played doom on on the pc i never knew what the guns were i though the pistol was a bunny with no ears the shotgun a laptop the chaingun i though were teeth and the rocket luncher a boat also the sprite shtga0 does int match the rest of the shotgun sprites but i really didint give a shit back then doom will always be my favorite game how do you install the abbs pack guns i dont know how

[FELIPEPKPK]

lol cool music at 1.58

[tuthill351]

oldskool better

[zaciroth]

yeah it does.

[Northisbest]

I can never accept 3d model in DOOM it just too yuck !

I'm old school DOOM hardcore !

[KingdommHeartz]

Good job man!

[JammieBoy07]

WOW man I never thought the 3d graphics of Doom would have been this good a fuckin! good Job^-^

[T3hSy5tem]

Meh! The high res textures, 3d models, ambient lighting, skyboxes, and high quality mp3 tunes are nice, but for me the classic true doom experience are headphones, a keyboard, and a copy of doom 95 with the lights out!

[Demonslay335]

The flats and wall textures look cool, but the monsters are kinda funny looking. That 3d mod seriously makes the game look like Quake to me, lol.

[pollorobot]

the walls and enemies attacks look great but the items and monsters not so much

i keep with the 2d models until they improve that.....

[quakedoom3]

in risen3d or doomsdayhq portal!!!!

[jaredalan317]

i prefer the original 2d graphics. honestly, they look better than these 3d models.

[Scinceman]

im with u on this

[noy0003]

I like the 3D models better. But the 3D models would be even better if the were MORE like the 2D graphics.

[noy0003]

Plus, that's not the normal 3D pistol, it's the Abbs pack pistol.

[farofa66]

lazy town music XD

[farofa66]

3d mod wins!!!

[Combinebobnt]

I have a different type of new models

I think yours looks cooler than mine

[CrazyMan2345]

I got the 3d model to work.

[Ojko1]

do it is doomsday ? if yes i am out of luck ... cuz i tried Doomsday and it wonted to work

[az089lisard]

I finaly got the 3d models and textures

[EarlStanbiggio]

How do you download the 3d version? where do you go?