i know this is a bit far fetched and before anyone says anything i know this is not what happens... but what would protesters views be if fur was collected the same way as sheeps wool?? shave the fur off and reconstruct it on a cloth base, with no harm done to the animal. i know the likeliness of this ever happening is very slim, but i was curious to hear peoples views
i know this is a bit far fetched and before anyone says anything i know this is not what happens... but what would protesters views be if fur was collected the same way as sheeps wool?? shave the fur off and reconstruct it on a cloth base, with no harm done to the animal. i know the likeliness of this ever happening is very slim, but i was curious to hear peoples views
@Toschitaly Thanks to the fur (and other animal product) markets, many many many animals every year are born into slavery .... a very good reason to be vegan!
This is sickening. How can you get pleasure out of wearing an innocent victim's dead flesh? How can you feel good knowing you DESTROY innocent lives for your vanity??
It takes a pretty sick, sick, sick and twisted person to gorge themselves in the skins of families of tortured and skinned alive animals. DEATH TO THE FUR TRADE!!
bravo for being vegan its your choice but dont slag off the other people who eat meat and animal based products..the PETA activists who splash red paint on ppl or celebs for wearing fur and then running away are just pure cowards cos they dont stand their ground and protest instead they prefer to run and hide because they're just too afraid to stand up for what they believe..and these are the activists?pffft,please.
Imagine if you were told "Bravo for being against child abuse, it's your choice, but don't slag off to other people who beat their kids." or "Bravo for being against rape, it's your choice, but don't slag off to other people who like to rape people."
KILLING someone for your unnecessary pleasure is NOT a personal choice, and compassionate people have every right to say something about it.
@VeganButterfly It totally is a personal chioce I adore fur and have a number of fur garments and accsesories and one of my best friend is vegitarian and she respects my chioces and I respect hers , Oh and eating meat and wearing fur is nuthing like child abuse or rape both those things have victims
@SpoiltBrat166 You're "only" an animal. I'm "only" an animal. Humans are not a species of plant. We are animals. Sentient beings.
I guess if you think what other species do justifies what we do then I guess you must support child abuse and rape after all, since I bet you don't protest cats eating their kittens or monkeys raping other monkeys....do you?
@VeganButterfly I do not support or endorse child abuse or rape but they ae diffrent things I mean you cant compare the abuse of forcing a child to being vegan or throwing it down the stairs now can you?
@SpoiltBrat166 Why not? Other animals do it. And since you think that's a good excuse then why not use it in this case?
Why not? Because you're speciesist. To you, your species is "superior" to other species. But this is simply a bias just like racists and sexists think their own race or gender is superior.
@SpoiltBrat166 "Abuse of forcing a child to be vegan"???
Oh nice, so you're going to be a jerk now. Yeah it's really abuse to raise a child teaching her to care for others and respect their rights. It's really abuse to raise a child to live healthy.
Just like it's abuse to "force" a child to not smoke or not hit other children. Because we all know real parents simply observe their children, they don't actually take care of them and teach them right from wrong. That would simply be cruel!
But now that I can see that not only do you not give a shit about other sentient beings simply because they are a different species than you, you are also rude and insulting toward members of your own species, I will no longer speak to you.
I'm sure you wouldn't like it if I said that your parents were "child abusers" for forcing you to eat meat, forcing you to not be able to eat ice cream for dinner, or forcing you to do your homework, right?
@SpoiltBrat166 Most species kill to SURVIVE. They don't have alternatives or the reasoning to chose those alternatives.
They don't know any better.
It's the same reason adults get charged and jailed for assault but toddlers don't get charged and jailed when they hit their parents or siblings. They don't have the same reasoning as an adult.
Eating meat doesn't involve victims either? Did you learn about meat from Ronald McDonald? It doesn't grow in a little happy burger garden and you just pick it out of the ground. Meat is the flesh of sentient beings that had to be killed. You can type on YouTube and yet you do not know this???
@VeganButterfly McDonalds isn't real meat by-the-way and No Thats not where I learned about meat, But to let you know while you are so limited to veg and pulses, I get to have veal, venison, lobster, and so meny more delisious animals and go try on a mink or chinchilla and tell me it doesnt feel like a little bi of heaven love it. XxX
@SpoiltBrat166@SpoiltBrat166 Actually it is real flesh. That's just a joke people make that it isn't. The only false advertisement McDonald's has been in trouble for related to ingredients is referring to the fries as suitable for vegetarians while not mentioning that they are soaked in cow fat before being sent to the restaurants. They openly post their ingredients lists on their website now to avoid more trouble. It is majorly flesh. Preservative and chemical-laden flesh, but still flesh.
@SpoiltBrat166@SpoiltBrat166 Actually it is real flesh. That's just a joke people make that it isn't. The only false advertisement McDonald's has been in trouble for related to ingredients is referring to the fries as suitable for vegetarians while not mentioning that they are soaked in cow fat before being sent to the restaurants. They openly post their ingredients lists on their website now to avoid more trouble. It is majorly flesh. Preservative and chemical-laden flesh, but still flesh.
@SpoiltBrat166 I am not limited at all. I can eat everything you eat if I want to. Only when I eat veal, it is made of soy, while yours is made of baby flesh. When I eat venison, it is soy venison, while you choose someone's flesh. Soy lobster vs lobster flesh. I eat as much variety as anyone else, only I choose ethical sources. Anyways, pleasure is a terrible reason to harm others.
And no, wearing part of someone's dead body wouldn't feel like heaven to me. That's just sick.
@VeganButterfly if you are so opposed to the killing of animals, then why do you choose to eat a soy immitation of veal? would you not choose to disconnect yourself completely from the consumption of meat?? Im not trying to start an argument, im just curious and ive allways wondered :) ( hope i havent offended anybody)
@VeganButterfly i no soy isnt from animals lol and no i am definitely against murder of humans and i dont have time for videogames but i do occasionally watch horror movies in which some have human murder, but i dont watch them for the murder or enjoy it obviously because it would be quite a sick thing to do tbh
You enjoy the movie though. That's why people watch movies: entertainment. Just like how I enjoy the taste of soy meat, except that doesn't even involve simulating animal slavery and killing. I don't sit down to a veggie burger and watch a video of a cow being murdered and try and pretend I'm eating her or something.
You watch movies that show fake murder because you know it's harmless. I eat soy meat because I know it's harmless.
@VeganButterfly What i meant by the soy veal thing is why eat something that is imitating meat when you do not condone eating the real thing... it doesnt really matter though lol
@ChristopherNiari123 I just told you! Because it tastes good and doesn't involve harming others. Just like you watch movies that imitates human murder when you do not condone the real thing. You know there's a difference!
@VeganButterfly Aah i see ur point now lol thanks!! ive wondered for ages why vegans and vegetarians eat immitation meat products but that gingerbread example has made it clear :-D
@VeganButterfly Id also like to say one last thing... Im a fashion designer that DId want to use fur simpily because of its luxury... but now after talking to you and seeing videos etc, ive completely changed my mind!! WHY use fur when you can buy immitation, why inflict unnecessary pain and suffering on a helpless animal when there is really no need!! Thank you sooo much, genuinely!! ive realised how stupid i have been ( just to say i have never actually used fur... and i never will!!!)
@VeganButterfly You know, you make more sense than most people do when they are expressing their opinions, you are obviously one of the few who really really know what they are talking about
It takes a pretty sick, sick, sick and twisted person to gorge themselves in the skins of families of tortured and skinned alive animals. DEATH TO THE FUR TRADE!!
VEGAN POWER!!
ANIMAL LIBERATION NOW!!
It takes a pretty sick, sick, sick and twisted person to gorge themselves in the skins of families of tortured and skinned alive animals. DEATH TO THE FUR TRADE!!
It takes a pretty sick, sick, sick and twisted person to gorge themselves in the skins of families of tortured and skinned alive animals. DEATH TO THE FUR TRADE!!
VEGAN POWER!!
ANIMAL LIBERATION NOW!!
It takes a pretty sick, sick, sick and twisted person to gorge themselves in the skins of families of tortured and skinned alive animals. DEATH TO THE FUR TRADE!!
It takes a pretty sick, sick, sick and twisted person to gorge themselves in the skins of families of tortured and skinned alive animals. DEATH TO THE FUR TRADE!!
VEGAN POWER!!
ANIMAL LIBERATION NOW!!
It takes a pretty sick, sick, sick and twisted person to gorge themselves in the skins of families of tortured and skinned alive animals. DEATH TO THE FUR TRADE!!
Disguesting, vile and sub-human dressing mannors. Everyone of those designers should be anally electrocuted and made into a coat. Now thats a coat I'd pay top dollar for.
useless shallow women displaying fur that was cruelly ripped from an innocent animal, what a poor,pathetic industry to keep going, there is no need, curses on the models, audience, self loving designers, they know the misery,torture and death involved, yet out of greed do everything they can to keep this low moralled murdering trade going, yr god must b proud of u, few people have the balls to stand up for animals, 'SHAME ON U ALL, PATHETIC EXCUSES FOR HUMAN BEINGS IN THE 21st CENTURY'
Well, I don't kill animals... but We eat cow and chicken... we wear leather jackets..and leather shoes.. but fur is terrible?.. It's equals situations.. ridiculous your position.
So you basically hire a hitman. Doesn't relieve you of the crime. You PAY for meat, you pay for it to be supplied. You pay for an animal to be raised and killed for your pleasure.
If I pay someone else to kill someone I would still go to jail.
It's all equally terrible, you kill animals for your unnecessary pleasures. Yes you kill animals even if you hire someone else to do it for you by buying the end result - you are still directly involved in the murder of animals- you support it, you pay for it with your dollar.
@d1357 ,my friend,i could NOT have said it better.these poor animals live in abominal conditions with no protection from the elements,then they are yanked out of their barren cages with a rope around the neck,and in front of the other poor souls,has a metal rod stuck up its ass and is forced to bite another rod,which in turn gets plugged into a wall socket to electrocute,sometimes several shocks are needed.or if the scum feels like it skin the animal alive while it screams.sick world we live in!
sorry bout the 20qs btw lol VV
ChristopherNiari123 1 year ago
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i know this is a bit far fetched and before anyone says anything i know this is not what happens... but what would protesters views be if fur was collected the same way as sheeps wool?? shave the fur off and reconstruct it on a cloth base, with no harm done to the animal. i know the likeliness of this ever happening is very slim, but i was curious to hear peoples views
ChristopherNiari123 1 year ago
i know this is a bit far fetched and before anyone says anything i know this is not what happens... but what would protesters views be if fur was collected the same way as sheeps wool?? shave the fur off and reconstruct it on a cloth base, with no harm done to the animal. i know the likeliness of this ever happening is very slim, but i was curious to hear peoples views
ChristopherNiari123 1 year ago
thanks to fur market many many many animals every year are born........
Toschitaly 2 years ago
@Toschitaly Thanks to the fur (and other animal product) markets, many many many animals every year are born into slavery .... a very good reason to be vegan!
VeganButterfly 1 year ago
Gross, fur hags.
OonaCanute 2 years ago
FUR IS DEAD!!!!
gatoloco98 2 years ago 3
@gatoloco98 No the animals are dead lol the coats are beautiful
SpoiltBrat166 1 year ago
This is sickening. How can you get pleasure out of wearing an innocent victim's dead flesh? How can you feel good knowing you DESTROY innocent lives for your vanity??
VeganButterfly 3 years ago 3
It takes a pretty sick, sick, sick and twisted person to gorge themselves in the skins of families of tortured and skinned alive animals. DEATH TO THE FUR TRADE!!
VEGAN POWER!!
ANIMAL LIBERATION NOW!!
gut197 3 years ago 4
bravo for being vegan its your choice but dont slag off the other people who eat meat and animal based products..the PETA activists who splash red paint on ppl or celebs for wearing fur and then running away are just pure cowards cos they dont stand their ground and protest instead they prefer to run and hide because they're just too afraid to stand up for what they believe..and these are the activists?pffft,please.
tornaasorridere 3 years ago
Imagine if you were told "Bravo for being against child abuse, it's your choice, but don't slag off to other people who beat their kids." or "Bravo for being against rape, it's your choice, but don't slag off to other people who like to rape people."
KILLING someone for your unnecessary pleasure is NOT a personal choice, and compassionate people have every right to say something about it.
VeganButterfly 3 years ago
@VeganButterfly It totally is a personal chioce I adore fur and have a number of fur garments and accsesories and one of my best friend is vegitarian and she respects my chioces and I respect hers , Oh and eating meat and wearing fur is nuthing like child abuse or rape both those things have victims
SpoiltBrat166 1 year ago
@SpoiltBrat166
Harming others is not a personal choice!
Wearing fur doesn't have victims? Where do you think fur comes from? A fur tree?
VeganButterfly 1 year ago
@VeganButterfly They are only animals In the wild if a animal kills another animal do you protest that, Hm Lets think no you don't get over yourself
SpoiltBrat166 1 year ago
@SpoiltBrat166 You're "only" an animal. I'm "only" an animal. Humans are not a species of plant. We are animals. Sentient beings.
I guess if you think what other species do justifies what we do then I guess you must support child abuse and rape after all, since I bet you don't protest cats eating their kittens or monkeys raping other monkeys....do you?
VeganButterfly 1 year ago
@VeganButterfly I do not support or endorse child abuse or rape but they ae diffrent things I mean you cant compare the abuse of forcing a child to being vegan or throwing it down the stairs now can you?
SpoiltBrat166 1 year ago
@SpoiltBrat166 Why not? Other animals do it. And since you think that's a good excuse then why not use it in this case?
Why not? Because you're speciesist. To you, your species is "superior" to other species. But this is simply a bias just like racists and sexists think their own race or gender is superior.
VeganButterfly 1 year ago
@VeganButterfly Btw we are HUMANS not Animals UNDERSTAND???
SpoiltBrat166 1 year ago
@SpoiltBrat166 "Abuse of forcing a child to be vegan"???
Oh nice, so you're going to be a jerk now. Yeah it's really abuse to raise a child teaching her to care for others and respect their rights. It's really abuse to raise a child to live healthy.
Just like it's abuse to "force" a child to not smoke or not hit other children. Because we all know real parents simply observe their children, they don't actually take care of them and teach them right from wrong. That would simply be cruel!
VeganButterfly 1 year ago
@VeganButterfly BTW we are H-U-M-A-N-S not animals U-N-D-E-R-S-T-A-N-D???
SpoiltBrat166 1 year ago
@SpoiltBrat166
But now that I can see that not only do you not give a shit about other sentient beings simply because they are a different species than you, you are also rude and insulting toward members of your own species, I will no longer speak to you.
I'm sure you wouldn't like it if I said that your parents were "child abusers" for forcing you to eat meat, forcing you to not be able to eat ice cream for dinner, or forcing you to do your homework, right?
Good bye.
VeganButterfly 1 year ago
@VeganButterfly No Its you should just give rose the choice to eat meat if she wants to.
SpoiltBrat166 1 year ago
@SpoiltBrat166 Most species kill to SURVIVE. They don't have alternatives or the reasoning to chose those alternatives.
They don't know any better.
It's the same reason adults get charged and jailed for assault but toddlers don't get charged and jailed when they hit their parents or siblings. They don't have the same reasoning as an adult.
VeganButterfly 1 year ago
@SpoiltBrat166
Eating meat doesn't involve victims either? Did you learn about meat from Ronald McDonald? It doesn't grow in a little happy burger garden and you just pick it out of the ground. Meat is the flesh of sentient beings that had to be killed. You can type on YouTube and yet you do not know this???
VeganButterfly 1 year ago
@VeganButterfly McDonalds isn't real meat by-the-way and No Thats not where I learned about meat, But to let you know while you are so limited to veg and pulses, I get to have veal, venison, lobster, and so meny more delisious animals and go try on a mink or chinchilla and tell me it doesnt feel like a little bi of heaven love it. XxX
SpoiltBrat166 1 year ago
@SpoiltBrat166 @SpoiltBrat166 Actually it is real flesh. That's just a joke people make that it isn't. The only false advertisement McDonald's has been in trouble for related to ingredients is referring to the fries as suitable for vegetarians while not mentioning that they are soaked in cow fat before being sent to the restaurants. They openly post their ingredients lists on their website now to avoid more trouble. It is majorly flesh. Preservative and chemical-laden flesh, but still flesh.
VeganButterfly 1 year ago
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@SpoiltBrat166 @SpoiltBrat166 Actually it is real flesh. That's just a joke people make that it isn't. The only false advertisement McDonald's has been in trouble for related to ingredients is referring to the fries as suitable for vegetarians while not mentioning that they are soaked in cow fat before being sent to the restaurants. They openly post their ingredients lists on their website now to avoid more trouble. It is majorly flesh. Preservative and chemical-laden flesh, but still flesh.
VeganButterfly 1 year ago
@SpoiltBrat166 I am not limited at all. I can eat everything you eat if I want to. Only when I eat veal, it is made of soy, while yours is made of baby flesh. When I eat venison, it is soy venison, while you choose someone's flesh. Soy lobster vs lobster flesh. I eat as much variety as anyone else, only I choose ethical sources. Anyways, pleasure is a terrible reason to harm others.
And no, wearing part of someone's dead body wouldn't feel like heaven to me. That's just sick.
VeganButterfly 1 year ago
@VeganButterfly if you are so opposed to the killing of animals, then why do you choose to eat a soy immitation of veal? would you not choose to disconnect yourself completely from the consumption of meat?? Im not trying to start an argument, im just curious and ive allways wondered :) ( hope i havent offended anybody)
ChristopherNiari123 1 year ago
@ChristopherNiari123
Soy isn't from animals, it's from a bean.
Veganism isn't about not preferring the taste of flesh, it's about being morally against speciesism and exploitation of sentient beings.
I have two questions for you:
1) Are you morally against murder of humans?
2) Do you ever enjoy watching movies or shows, or playing video games that simulate human murder?
VeganButterfly 1 year ago
@VeganButterfly i no soy isnt from animals lol and no i am definitely against murder of humans and i dont have time for videogames but i do occasionally watch horror movies in which some have human murder, but i dont watch them for the murder or enjoy it obviously because it would be quite a sick thing to do tbh
ChristopherNiari123 1 year ago
@ChristopherNiari123
You enjoy the movie though. That's why people watch movies: entertainment. Just like how I enjoy the taste of soy meat, except that doesn't even involve simulating animal slavery and killing. I don't sit down to a veggie burger and watch a video of a cow being murdered and try and pretend I'm eating her or something.
You watch movies that show fake murder because you know it's harmless. I eat soy meat because I know it's harmless.
VeganButterfly 1 year ago
@VeganButterfly What i meant by the soy veal thing is why eat something that is imitating meat when you do not condone eating the real thing... it doesnt really matter though lol
ChristopherNiari123 1 year ago
@ChristopherNiari123 I just told you! Because it tastes good and doesn't involve harming others. Just like you watch movies that imitates human murder when you do not condone the real thing. You know there's a difference!
VeganButterfly 1 year ago
@ChristopherNiari123 What about people who don't condone cannibalism but eat gingerbread men? :p Lol
VeganButterfly 1 year ago
@VeganButterfly Aah i see ur point now lol thanks!! ive wondered for ages why vegans and vegetarians eat immitation meat products but that gingerbread example has made it clear :-D
ChristopherNiari123 1 year ago
@ChristopherNiari123 Glad to help! :) Lol
VeganButterfly 1 year ago
@VeganButterfly Id also like to say one last thing... Im a fashion designer that DId want to use fur simpily because of its luxury... but now after talking to you and seeing videos etc, ive completely changed my mind!! WHY use fur when you can buy immitation, why inflict unnecessary pain and suffering on a helpless animal when there is really no need!! Thank you sooo much, genuinely!! ive realised how stupid i have been ( just to say i have never actually used fur... and i never will!!!)
ChristopherNiari123 1 year ago
@ChristopherNiari123 I'm so happy to hear you say that!
And I just finished replying to an old comment you made elsewhere, but I guess it wasn't necessary then!
It's always nice to know when you're making a positive influence! Thanks again! :)
VeganButterfly 1 year ago
@VeganButterfly You know, you make more sense than most people do when they are expressing their opinions, you are obviously one of the few who really really know what they are talking about
ChristopherNiari123 1 year ago
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VeganButterfly 3 years ago
kill joy !
tubit9 3 years ago
It takes a pretty sick, sick, sick and twisted person to gorge themselves in the skins of families of tortured and skinned alive animals. DEATH TO THE FUR TRADE!!
VEGAN POWER!!
ANIMAL LIBERATION NOW!!
It takes a pretty sick, sick, sick and twisted person to gorge themselves in the skins of families of tortured and skinned alive animals. DEATH TO THE FUR TRADE!!
VEGAN POWER!!
ANIMAL LIBERATION NOW!!
studywar 3 years ago 2
It takes a pretty sick, sick, sick and twisted person to gorge themselves in the skins of families of tortured and skinned alive animals. DEATH TO THE FUR TRADE!!
VEGAN POWER!!
ANIMAL LIBERATION NOW!!
It takes a pretty sick, sick, sick and twisted person to gorge themselves in the skins of families of tortured and skinned alive animals. DEATH TO THE FUR TRADE!!
VEGAN POWER!!
ANIMAL LIBERATION NOW!!
studywar 3 years ago 3
It takes a pretty sick, sick, sick and twisted person to gorge themselves in the skins of families of tortured and skinned alive animals. DEATH TO THE FUR TRADE!!
VEGAN POWER!!
ANIMAL LIBERATION NOW!!
It takes a pretty sick, sick, sick and twisted person to gorge themselves in the skins of families of tortured and skinned alive animals. DEATH TO THE FUR TRADE!!
VEGAN POWER!!
ANIMAL LIBERATION NOW!!
studywar 3 years ago 3
Disguesting, vile and sub-human dressing mannors. Everyone of those designers should be anally electrocuted and made into a coat. Now thats a coat I'd pay top dollar for.
studywar 3 years ago
useless shallow women displaying fur that was cruelly ripped from an innocent animal, what a poor,pathetic industry to keep going, there is no need, curses on the models, audience, self loving designers, they know the misery,torture and death involved, yet out of greed do everything they can to keep this low moralled murdering trade going, yr god must b proud of u, few people have the balls to stand up for animals, 'SHAME ON U ALL, PATHETIC EXCUSES FOR HUMAN BEINGS IN THE 21st CENTURY'
d1357 4 years ago 7
Every word seconded.
Simply Sick... technology has evolved way, way past the need for Fur. Stop living in the dark ages and for fucks sake develop a conscience.
How would you feel if I paraded round in a toddler skin coat?!? Probably as repulsed as I am when I see this kind of twisted shit.
SpamBanjo 4 years ago 5
Well, I don't kill animals... but We eat cow and chicken... we wear leather jackets..and leather shoes.. but fur is terrible?.. It's equals situations.. ridiculous your position.
fur000br 4 years ago
if you eat meat and wear leather then yes, you kill animals. sorry.
nyc4animals 4 years ago 6
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"if you eat meat and wear leather then yes, you kill animals. sorry."
Wrong. I don't personally kill them. I leave that
duty to the abattoir employees.
marksoutof10 3 years ago
So you basically hire a hitman. Doesn't relieve you of the crime. You PAY for meat, you pay for it to be supplied. You pay for an animal to be raised and killed for your pleasure.
If I pay someone else to kill someone I would still go to jail.
VeganButterfly 3 years ago
It's all equally terrible, you kill animals for your unnecessary pleasures. Yes you kill animals even if you hire someone else to do it for you by buying the end result - you are still directly involved in the murder of animals- you support it, you pay for it with your dollar.
VeganButterfly 3 years ago
@d1357 ,my friend,i could NOT have said it better.these poor animals live in abominal conditions with no protection from the elements,then they are yanked out of their barren cages with a rope around the neck,and in front of the other poor souls,has a metal rod stuck up its ass and is forced to bite another rod,which in turn gets plugged into a wall socket to electrocute,sometimes several shocks are needed.or if the scum feels like it skin the animal alive while it screams.sick world we live in!
majorferret 1 year ago
I didn't watch it to the end cause it's really boring but if they were wearing fur fuck them!!
MichaelJeterFan 4 years ago 5
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good vid
chestty 4 years ago