All involved deserve a huge thank you. The pilot was amazing to be able to touch that thing down with little to no reference of the ground. Well done!
I bet on the spinal too... Anyway, in our station(somewhere in Québec) if ever the case it was a femur , we use vacuum splints, which is faster than traction. If ever the case the patient was not stable we only use de backboard... The femur is already immobilized with that if you put a sufficiant blanket between your patient's legs.
Agreed. Use of SAGARs depends on the hill, the proximity of the device, and how the elapsed time between the injury and warmth. You have to decide (depending on the terrain, because you could be off piste) on the safest and fastest way to extricate and transport to medical aid.
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what country is that? whats the name of that hill?? and how bad was the accident? probably it will explain the reason for the helicopter and the 7 patrol guys
One year ago I had a concussion and severe laceration on my right arm that brought in a Medivac, but they were able to stabilize me for ambulance transport to Vancouver. Whistler's Ski Patrol has my admiration beyond words. I was told that I'd never be able to use my right arm again. One year of surgery and rehab later, I just ripped it up on Kristi on Ajax in Aspen last week and have the Highland Bowl in sight. More rehab to go, but this Chicago Mom owes them everything. They are incredible.
If it were a femur, he'd probably have a traction splint on; he doesn't. Unless he broke it proximally or distally, I'd venture a guess that it's a spinal injury.
i agree. if a patient is in such condition that a medivac is necessitated, applying a traction splint to a patient is only going to increase time spent on the hill...this is something that should be avoided. if this was a multi-trauma pt. with femur i'd pull traction using the good leg and a cravat...takes 30 sec and is effective.
seems to me that this guy has a lot going on, most likely not just spinal or just femur.
ya ya, but when it goes to court all that matters is weather or not you followed the OEC instructions which say use traction or SAGAR splint on a midshaft femur fracture.
must agree with hp2ski on this one. Although my accident happend half way around the world in Tux, Austria. and I was found damn near dead by the piste workers. The crew that flew me out totally rocked \m/ People that patrol are gods hands down. It's just a pain you can't thank them all the time. There isn't a shitter feeling then coming close dying on a mountain alone 5000 miles away from home
Use of a Sager traction splint along with a backboard and the other equipment used would suggest a broken femur, however there is no traction splint that has visibly been applied here...
Why in the world do you have a patroller kneel on the snow right next to the LZ?!? I used to be a ski patroller, and am now a rescue helo pilot, and the last thing I'd want to worry about as I'm going into a near-white-out landing is some dude I can barely see (if at all) crouched down 5 feet from my nosecone!
IN a Whiteout landing (most snow landings) there is no other vertical reference for the pilot to maintain visual contact with the ground. this is standard operating procedure in rescue and other snow landings, heliskiing in uncharted areas without landing flags.
So, the guy on the ground is pretty much the visual reference point the whole time? Wow, I'll bet he has to be sure to wear his depends the first time he does that! :) Thanks for the info! (We don't get a whole lot of snow landings out in Hawaii. Ha ha.)
I shot the loading part from the deck of a lodge, when you see the ledge of the deck momentarily, I was ducking behind the ledge, & all shots were zoomed up quite a bit.
probably broke his femure i as a ski patroller know that madivacs are for serious accidents, and a broken shin ( as in hitting a tree) would not implie this serious evacuation.
I beleive this person had hit a tree and had broken a few bones. He had managed to get to this location by himself, which was a considerable distance from where he had hit the tree.
All involved deserve a huge thank you. The pilot was amazing to be able to touch that thing down with little to no reference of the ground. Well done!
breakdrum 1 week ago
I bet on the spinal too... Anyway, in our station(somewhere in Québec) if ever the case it was a femur , we use vacuum splints, which is faster than traction. If ever the case the patient was not stable we only use de backboard... The femur is already immobilized with that if you put a sufficiant blanket between your patient's legs.
gazelleprotect 2 years ago
Agreed. Use of SAGARs depends on the hill, the proximity of the device, and how the elapsed time between the injury and warmth. You have to decide (depending on the terrain, because you could be off piste) on the safest and fastest way to extricate and transport to medical aid.
forestranger2 3 years ago
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what country is that? whats the name of that hill?? and how bad was the accident? probably it will explain the reason for the helicopter and the 7 patrol guys
naftafuel 4 years ago
it says it in the name. Whistler B.C.
bassfreak185 3 years ago
anyone notice the aed?
cammonroe 4 years ago
One year ago I had a concussion and severe laceration on my right arm that brought in a Medivac, but they were able to stabilize me for ambulance transport to Vancouver. Whistler's Ski Patrol has my admiration beyond words. I was told that I'd never be able to use my right arm again. One year of surgery and rehab later, I just ripped it up on Kristi on Ajax in Aspen last week and have the Highland Bowl in sight. More rehab to go, but this Chicago Mom owes them everything. They are incredible.
letsnow649 4 years ago
i was standing next to the camera when it was filming :P
brad828 4 years ago
Yeah
Guessing just from the way the pt is packaged
My money would be on a head or spinal injury
Boardingmedic 4 years ago
If it were a femur, he'd probably have a traction splint on; he doesn't. Unless he broke it proximally or distally, I'd venture a guess that it's a spinal injury.
allyanncah 4 years ago
You don't splint femurs on the hill. Check the lift in and out of the toboggan. It's most like a spinal.
forestranger2 3 years ago
i agree. if a patient is in such condition that a medivac is necessitated, applying a traction splint to a patient is only going to increase time spent on the hill...this is something that should be avoided. if this was a multi-trauma pt. with femur i'd pull traction using the good leg and a cravat...takes 30 sec and is effective.
seems to me that this guy has a lot going on, most likely not just spinal or just femur.
anyone know what it takes to work on WSP?
barunrm 3 years ago
ya ya, but when it goes to court all that matters is weather or not you followed the OEC instructions which say use traction or SAGAR splint on a midshaft femur fracture.
rinatst2 3 years ago
@forestranger2 Wow, um yes you do. Its called a sager and you splint it so the bone doesn't slice up the femoral arterty.
DieEisGeist 3 weeks ago
must agree with hp2ski on this one. Although my accident happend half way around the world in Tux, Austria. and I was found damn near dead by the piste workers. The crew that flew me out totally rocked \m/ People that patrol are gods hands down. It's just a pain you can't thank them all the time. There isn't a shitter feeling then coming close dying on a mountain alone 5000 miles away from home
XpolymerX 4 years ago
Nothing but love for the Patrol on Blackcomb. They have totall saved my life and are hero's in my mind.
hp2ski 4 years ago
All the Ski Patrollers around the world, ar kind of hero to other. Specialy the Volunteers Ski Patrol.
ChaPatrol 4 years ago
Im a ski patrol out east on a small mountain
ionpaintballer34776 4 years ago
Me too, I was volunteer Ski Patrol for 13 years in Chile, and 2 years in Canada. Probably the best period of my life.
ChaPatrol 4 years ago
I am a Volunteer Ski Patrol :)
gazelleprotect 2 years ago 3
@gazelleprotect *high fives* yay, I'm training down here in the states
DieEisGeist 8 months ago
Use of a Sager traction splint along with a backboard and the other equipment used would suggest a broken femur, however there is no traction splint that has visibly been applied here...
CaterpillarKiller 4 years ago
close review of the video does not reveal a sager splint or boot removal. It appears this is a spinal injury...
CaterpillarKiller 4 years ago
Why in the world do you have a patroller kneel on the snow right next to the LZ?!? I used to be a ski patroller, and am now a rescue helo pilot, and the last thing I'd want to worry about as I'm going into a near-white-out landing is some dude I can barely see (if at all) crouched down 5 feet from my nosecone!
wradar 4 years ago
IN a Whiteout landing (most snow landings) there is no other vertical reference for the pilot to maintain visual contact with the ground. this is standard operating procedure in rescue and other snow landings, heliskiing in uncharted areas without landing flags.
glennbguest 4 years ago
So, the guy on the ground is pretty much the visual reference point the whole time? Wow, I'll bet he has to be sure to wear his depends the first time he does that! :) Thanks for the info! (We don't get a whole lot of snow landings out in Hawaii. Ha ha.)
wradar 4 years ago
Wr have you forgot the Helicopter blades?
And this is from someone is neither a Ski Patroller or pilot.
kwvaussie 4 years ago
KW, I don't understanding what you're saying. What about the blades???
wradar 4 years ago
I shot the loading part from the deck of a lodge, when you see the ledge of the deck momentarily, I was ducking behind the ledge, & all shots were zoomed up quite a bit.
superskier 3 years ago
probably broke his femure i as a ski patroller know that madivacs are for serious accidents, and a broken shin ( as in hitting a tree) would not implie this serious evacuation.
ssmayhem 5 years ago
I beleive this person had hit a tree and had broken a few bones. He had managed to get to this location by himself, which was a considerable distance from where he had hit the tree.
superskier 5 years ago
what happened the the person?
skaterflip88 5 years ago