Horn Solo's Tchaikovsky Fifth Symphony Stefan Dohr

[Schaef198]

Beautiful.

[rachapeitos]

el oboe está loco?? fantástico trompa!

[christianac123]

5-stringed basses

[pa14380]

his sound is really poor and him shrill D is too low, Abbado told him to get a 1:56

[swetoct]

у вас что? места мало? что пропуск нужен для комментария

[gjergji910]

So many comments about the Oboe... He sounds great as always. If there was Baborak would have sounded a bit better.

[nannymac47]

It's cantabile folks.

[archersinner]

And one mind explaining to me what is Abbado trying to do at 1:57?? It doesn't look like some sort of sub-division

[Haeronthegreat]

@archersinner Mysteriously short first beat + left hand weirdness, I think.

[jin12345678]

@archersinner it's a sort of laboured preparation, to make the next beat more dramatic and laden with emotion.

[XM5]

@archersinner I think maybe that was holding back the music, pulling back the pickup up in the horn 'til the next measure. Best I can come up with. Good to know I wasn't the only one intrigued by his conducting so much.

[tyjo90]

5 people who watched this video must have been sax players.

[cdarrsse]

That oboist would make a good swimmer!

[47xforlif3]

im drunk, and this still still sounds epic!!!!

[pbj4toast]

I love his sound but can't shake the feeling that he rushes the tempo lust a tad in the more passionate moments of it, just when I want to linger a bit more with it.

[yoshichap]

@pbj4toast that's Abbado's fault I believe...



[pbj4toast]

@yoshichap Probably so. I used to have an old vinyl LP recording of it and I forget if it was Eugene Ormandy or Lenny Bernstein conducting but that was the tempo I liked.

[chiucc1685]

I love his playing.

[fantasynreality]

gosh, i wonder when i will be able to play this well. he pulled it off perfectly with ease..

[OCONNORmellobeast]

Sounds like sex.

That is all I can say.

[hanslollo91]

my idol



[HornistKeremKilic]

@hanslollo91 me 2 !! 

[aepceo1]

Fuckin oboe needs to chillax.

[pilchard96]

I bet that Oboist is a right twat. Incredible horn, not sure about the vibrato tho.

[yankees032778]

I can't think of any other major symphony where the horn is this exposed for this long. Dohr plays this as close to perfect as possible

[shib340]

@yankees032778 Naw there's plenty.

Every Mahler symphony, Beethoven 9, many Dvorak pieces, Brahms (3 and 4 especially), etc. off the top of my head. 

Plus many pieces like Strauss's Ein Heldenleben, Till Eulen., Don Juan; or stuff like Midsummer Night's Dream, Siegfried, Pictures at an Exhibition, etc., etc.

In short, classical composers love the horn =]

[yankees032778]

yeah us horn players are pretty badass :)

[LvbMike]

We started rehearsing this symphony at my orchestra... I'm playing this horn solo... Gets me so nervous...

[WackidWally2]

That's cool, this part of the song is in a new Coke commercial.

[CrazySnareJerrick93]

oboe needs to calm the fuck down.

[heyitsthatguitardude]

French Horn kicks brass

[josuetrejo24]

I will pray for 5 people

[cxxr6rycp6]

thank god i had tissues nearby

and i didn't sneeze

[kelsibelle2005]

there should be an automatic replay setting because i'm tired of pressing it every 4 mintues.

[dcs103]

great... Abbado can even make Tchaikowsky seem like really profound music. And great playing by the young Dohr. Superbly musical handling of the tempo, noone can do that like Abbado.

Strange though - and a common feature of many horn solos I've heard, even on great recordings - there is sometimes the impression of the horn going slightly sharp. Maybe just an overtone thing (changing from Bflat to F horn)?

[Blueboyo1]

Dohr plays the passage at 1:57 perfectly. That is why he's the solo hornist with the Berlin Philharmonic. And you're not.

[1SquidBoy]

@Blueboyo1 ...that IS why I'm not the soloist with the Berlin Philharmonic....

[Stankinator911]

@Blueboyo1 Thank you! I was wondering why I'm not. That solved the mystery.

[ultracherry55]

ayoo has anyone notice the weird conducting this guy does at 1:57

[katie1799]

FRench horns rock socks!

[athanoradamast]

Do the conductor took Valium or something? It´s tooooo sloooooow.

[jordi16peiro]

The BEST Horn Player EVER!

[pbj4toast]

@jordi16peiro I would love to see the Berlin Philharmonic horn section put together an arrangement of this and give Sarah a shot at the solo, but yeah, Stefan is probably the best.

[pointreyes6]

This is the best Tchaikovsky 5 Ive ever heard. Its the one in Japan.

[wowbowist]

Stefan Dohr's playing is simply aDOHRable !!!!

[Georgeminhinnick]

I have to play this piece in a class tomorrow, and if my version sounds 10% off how this fine gentlemen plays it, i will be a very happy student!

[iczerman]

This guy will drive you to tears! BRAVO!!!

[shib340]

best in the world

[unjoul]

So Beautiful.（胸にキュン）

[mlongpre17]

@ultracherry55

I am music teacher et hornist!

[ultracherry55]

@mlongpre17 and this is a bad horn sound ? ??? really ?? explains why he's the principle horn in berlin phil .

[jacobflaschen]

I love Claudio Abbado so much

[orcinus74]

the oboe is painful to watch. love the horn :3

[OfGreatLakes]

Perhaps the only thing more heartwrenching than the horn solo and orchestra's performance of the 5th is the realization that this clip abruptly stops at 3:39, and that I don't know where to find the rest of the recording at this time.

[gtj001]

Couldn't be better

[shentiex]

Does anyone else wonder if Stefan Dohr is aware that there are videos of him on YuTube? If so I wonder if he watches them and reads the comments. ^.^

[mlongpre17]

Not a good horn sound

[cpthornman]

@mlongpre17 Who is principal of BPO? Who is the one playing this perfect for everyone to see? Yeah....NOT YOU! Shut up.

[ultracherry55]

@cpthornman i 100% agree with you

[BadhornPlayer]

@mlongpre17 ARE YOU CRAZY? This is one of the best horn sounds known to man.

[ultracherry55]

@mlongpre17 what ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! you have not heard music then , are you musicly educated ????

[flatchestgurl2]

@mlongpre17 yeah, you're probably just jealous

[7222Brit]

what tune does this make me think offf!!!!! i know it!

[7222Brit]

@7222Brit

:DDD its Moon Love, Glenn Miller!!!

[ErikaHorn1]

Hermoso.............

[ICLAS0000]

Interpretacion sublime. Portamentos y legatto perfectos. Permiteme que te diga "STEFAN DOHR", que es la mejor version con diferencia que he oido de la V Sinfonia de Tchaikovsky. Gracias por ofrecernos esas clases magistrales a todos los Trompistas.

[CPCaptainSky]

What mouthpiece is that???

[josefedward]

I know that I used the F side in lower notes below middle So or Fa in order to bring out the bore of the horn, but depends on the horn you play. Alexander horns tended to be thin from middle C on up to F for me. But, like you say - it's the music - it's all about the music. I do really find it interesting to see the key selections that Stephan uses. Amazing talent...

[ICLAS0000]

Sigues siendo el mejor ¡¡¡¡¡bravo¡¡¡¡¡, enhorabuena

[ezev8logos]

Just Beautifull!!!

[videoking056]

what kind of horn is that?

[jacobflaschen]

@videoking056 French

[akruegs629]

Alexander 103. see below.

[Chidogerardo]

Alexandxer 103

[aztec11]

@videoking056 an Alexander horn. I'll take 2 ^-^ I'm stuck with my Conn

[TrissGachmuret]

when you buy an Alexander-Horn it´s your own choice whether it sits in Bb or not. I also have an Alex 103 and they asked me whether it should sit on Bb side. But it´s right, that we Germans prefer the Bb side. The higher notes are much easier to play:)

[akruegs629]

The American school has you switch to the Bb side on an Ab in the staff. I personally prefer using the Bb side for everything (I've switched to using an Alex 107, and don't want to play anything but an Alex ever again). It has a much purer tone, very rich. The low F side does not project as well, and i think it sounds too dark, in general. The only reason I'd want to use the low F side is on a G and F# below middle C, and pedal notes. Bb is superior. :-)

[050219901234567890]

what about a Holton?

[Kutsurabi]

Does his horn sit on the Bb side?? o_O

[akruegs629]

yes. it's an Alex 103. the germans use mostly Bb... much nicer.

[Kutsurabi]

but he was using a 103 in another video and i'm pretty sure it didn't sit on the Bb side...

[akruegs629]

huh. which video? it's just been my experience with Alex horns that they sit in Bb, if they are going to European owners. In this video, though, it appears that it's sitting in Bb. I could be wrong, for sure, but from what I can tell...

[akruegs629]

I just watched it again, and at 2:31 you can clearly see him use the thumb valve and second valve to play the F#, which is the F side fingering, so the horn in this video definitely sits in Bb.

[Kutsurabi]

Yeah that's what i thought, saw that too but i didn't wanna go sit with my horn or sheet music and figure that note out! haha. His video of Mahler No.5 appears to be a different horn...

[Kutsurabi]

Oh ok I just looked at it again and it's the same horn sitting in Bb. I guess I was under the assumption it sat in F and everyone was commenting it was a 103

[P0dDels]

Well, it does. Just look at the trigger ;)

[P0dDels]

Actually the sound is softer on the F side, however, in Germany they prefere the Bb side ;)

[mJbb23]

'..,in Germany they prefere (sic) the Bb side'

Not necessarily. All horns shipped from Europe (Alexander, Schmid, Paxman etc.) are shipped to stand in F unless the dealer requests the instrument to be standing in Bb. It is very easy to change the F/Bb trigger valve with many instruments bar the Conn 8D (a bad design on the Bb valve needs a whole new lever available from your local repairer). There is no right or wrong with standing in either F or Bb.

[mJbb23]

Many 1st horns will only use the Bb side and so change the valve (and horn) to sit in Bb and to use the lever to change over to the F side.

I find Stefan's playing remarkable. I do not consider him playing in F or Bb to be of any arguement. He is far better than I, so who am I to judge?

[readerjoy]

If we get too concerned over triggers and F vs. Bb, or what kind of horn, we can just close our eyes. : )

[bordaz1]

well, if time is any indication of how well one plays french horn, then i'd say about 250 years

[wdkaatfan]

they always move funny!

[MonDieuable]

It's called emotion. Try it some time.

[edwardandbella4evr1]

oh oops its more like 1:13 it comes

[edwardandbella4evr1]

for those of u wondering, the solo starts around 1:03

i have to learn this for a highschool symphony audition very hard lol. amazing piece tho

[unionbrass]

hey do you think stefan dohr is using a shallow cup?

[MasterAzunai]

No its deep, but weird looking, like a bowl.

[jeffleemk]

Wow, this is really good!

[TheHornyHornist]

weiss jemand was für ein mundstück er benutzt?

[marieantionette]

wheres the freakin rest?!!! im crying i wanna hear the rest...

[bbcorno]

I really enjoyed the faster tempo. Abbado knows the difference between Andante and Adagio.

[mongoosedog927]

I feel as though that conductor was pushing Stefan too much. As one of the most dramatic horn solos of all time, the musician should have the oppertunity to lead the orchestra in tempo. In my opinion the solo should be slower. It was still played phenominally though.

[zjoke]

I don't think so, he seemed to be pretty comfortable (he always does). Anyway, if it were much slower, I really think it would have dragged.

[pbj4toast]

@mongoosedog927 I'm with you on this one. I was ok with the tempo most of the way, but at critical times of passion I wanted it slower, especially to bring out those duplets against the orchestra's triplets.

[kkr203]

the strings are hot

[Tadashi0328]

Seiferd is much more better

[slapbangwoosh]

:D

nice.

[steamroller60]

oboe is far too into it.

[cooperman2112]

@steamroller60 He is just accenting his phrasing.

[ultracherry55]

@steamroller60 yeah you right lol

[skynat247]

@steamroller60 Hey, At least he doesnt sound like a dying cat, like in my band.

[rodderz57]

@steamroller60

I don't know why but I found that comment really hilarious I think it's just the blunt way you put it lol

[germanori]

oh man....Tchaikovsky simply loved the horn. what an awesome composer!

[serena1232]

what's not to love about the horn??

[fatalus553]

@serena1232 horn FTW :D

[voicesinurhead01]

So I heard the kind of horn he uses "stands" in B flat. So you need to use the trigger to play in F?

[dbarreda]

That kind of horn uses a F tube and a B flat tube, in F using the trigger; this means that the harmonics we get are the F or the B flat ones. But we always think in F intonation!

[voicesinurhead01]

Cool. After careful observation I see that it in fact "stands" in Bb.

[cpthornman]

On the Alex 103 (his horn) you can swtich the trigger so that it either stands in F of B flat. Most Alex players prefer the B flat side because the horn was actually designed as a B flat horn initially and the F was added for mass. The F side is superb don't get me wrong but the B flat side is even better.

[crazycellist973]

@voicesinurhead01 He is using a double horn (F and B flat). There are also triple horns and descant horns!

[TAXMAN1978]

Abbado's recordings sound great, but his conducting would drive me nuts. He conducts a beat ahead it seems.

[howiehowiehowie1324]

Yeah! He does seem to beat very very far ahead. Although then again maybe the Berlin Phil just play behind? I don't know. Whatever they are doing it works!

[shib340]

maybe the video" and the sound's timing is off.

[shib340]

oh nevermind, the fingerings are on time...

[germanori]

this is actually a conducting technique that many famous conductors do on purpose. Yeah it seems silly to me too, but it works for some groups.

[violinscratcher]

This is the "Philharmonische Schrecksekunde". It is the tradition of most of the european orchestras (especialy opera orchestras) to play behind the beat, in contrast to the american orchestras which play mostly on the beat.

[adsteve84]

I almost wonder if it's because the video is not synched with the audio.

[violinscratcher]

I think the syncronisation is quite good. The bow and finger movements fit well with the sound.

[adsteve84]

Haha, true, I didn't even think about looking at that!

[MissyVoge]

haha emotional oboe player

[marieantionette]

AAAAAAAA WHERES THE REST!?!?!?!?!?!

[olegchircani]

wie immer stefan ist der beste

[vielwe1]

magnifique! bravo!

[massimolioy]

bravo

[casillamo]

de todos modos el mejor que he oído.

The best i´ve heard

[Joancatonet]

molt boniko... very nice

[HahaMelia]

I think I climaxed.

[emersonk28]

the best i've ever heard

[cpthornman]

Such a gorgeous solo. And such a brilliant player playing it. What a joy to watch and listen to.

[clarkdiz]

That was hot. And, I heard the stringendo! Sweet!

[Nitopolo]

creo que no tengo palabras para defirnir a stefan dohr... se me saltan hasta las lagrimas cuando lo escucho... bravo stefan!!

[rafalkowalczyk26]

he is a genius

[rafalkowalczyk26]

he is a genius...