There is a very informative book called "The Black Girl Curse" that covers this exact subject. Black men were falling and crawling to black women until black women completely lost their minds behind an absolute tsunami of government assistance programs in the mid 70's and early 80's that ranged from free rent and medical care to free on the job training to preferred military recruiting for minority females and since the mid 70's there has been a mass exodus away from black women.
You sound like one of those nedy black girls who don't wear makeup and wear dark clothing all the time. Stop complaining about black men all the time. We don't like you anyway, LOL.
I believe that you missed his point. Yes, from an evolutionary standpoint, women primarily need beauty to attract the average man. However, SWP was speaking from a philosophical standpoint.
You make some sense in this video. Have you heard that saying, "men are like archers and women are like bullseyes?" What that means is women don't have to do anything while men have to do a lot, including practice. That saying jives with what you're saying.
I follow most of what UHM1T is saying and I agree with it except that she makes it seem as though most women dont need or really want to be physically attracted to a guy.
All those qualities she mentioned that a guy can attract a female with are true, but if she doesnt find the guy atleast somewhat physically attractive she'll just put him in the friendzone.
A man's appearance is important. Women are extremely superficial as are men. Its just they have more parts to focus on & decorate.
Hitchens - really ?!? But his arguments are so superficial and convoluted.... I mean talk about overbearing and bias. So sad that you leave your eternal existence and destiny to the likes of such a cynical, calculating, unfeeling, God- Hating person as this man. Have you ever met him personally, BTW ?
I don't follow Hitchens. I was an atheist before I even heard of him. I don't necessarily agree with everything he says.But when he's right, he's right.
@UHeardMe1stTime- that's certainly debatable. If you're referring to.say, his series on Kissinger's criminal machinations, then I agree he is compelling. However, when it relates to his uninformed, strident denunciations & condemnations of the One Living JudeoChristian Creator (of the Bible) he could not be more misguided & delusional. There is NO process of reasoning that would provide him an empirical Reason for his (non)'beliefs'. Also, do you agree, morally, there is absolute rite & wrong ?
Well women dont have to do anything except dress up and make themselves look sexy or pretty, or both. And then wait for the approaching males to come and then pick one or two. lol Seems easy if you ask me. I am not complaining about it, but I'm just saying. the title is right...
@kmcl11 first point, Not all men want kids. And I like equality. Why should I do ALL of the housework when I am 50% of the financial support? If I do all the cooking, he should clean. it's just fair. And yes I am in a relationship, and no he doesn't want kids. I also like women, and if I'm down for letting him play with me and another woman at the same time, why wouldn't he be down with that? traditional is boring.
4:00ff No you're bloody well not, that's what my new channel is all about and I dont need competition from the likes of you!
BTW, dont give 'docs' a hard time about nutrition, it's not something they spend a lot of time learning. Their primary concern is how to fix things that have gone wrong (drugs, surgery...), there isnt that much time to dedicate to lifestyle education, something that can be a very involved undertaking.
If I take the posts by men on this video, you'd think the next abc special on black women would be the "dimes" with no personality complaining they can't get a man to marry them. Why do I not see that happening? LULZ
Woman need beauty, personality & kindness!!!!!! Most woman are lacking all three. He actually talking about getting the courage to go to the gym. How he going to tell you about how to lose weight when many bw refuse to go to the gym. They prefer to watch Housewives of Atlanta!!!!
true what you said about women giving men mroe options, i know when i go "hunting" (lol) im not worrying if i can quickly show a guy in a lounge/club/wherever my personality, id ya know what i mean. My and all my girls have talked abou this, we try to appeal to men visually first and then worry about that other stuff. That bullshit "personality matters" shit is tiring... yes, eventually but at first all people have is the visual, THEN we get to the stuff you cant see.
...also "SWAG is not gender BASED. Sure women can have SWAG. They MIGHT not use that term to describe their "OVERALL PRESENTATION" of themselves to others but attributes Like "CONFIDENT DEMEANOR" & "SPECIAL CARE" of how you present yourself to others, sprinkled with a bit of an interesting yet intriguing personality, SHOULD be a goal for everyone. THAT is SWAG. But believable confidence is KEY! The other two fall apart if his or her insecurities are OBVIOUS.
Naw, yall don't NEED it. Men will except women as the are whether flawed or flawless. It's the nature of things. On the other hand, the type of swag I described is almost DEMANDED by women, otherwise the swag-less males find themselves having to settle for what ever female will have him. That's the NATURE of things also. That's why MALE peacocks have the pretty feathers and strut, Male lions have the Beautiful manes and strut, Male animals with big horns & antlers, etc.
As always, words adopted by the black community can have alternate or adjusted means the differ from the definition originally prescribed to the word. The definition you gave is not necessarily completely accurate, as it defines Swag in the most EXTREME terms. True, Confidence is a factor but "supercilious arrogance" is not necessary to "have swag". It's more about a confident demeanor coupled with specific care when presenting oneself to others.
I disagree. I have to side with SWP on this one. His point was a woman has to be more than just pretty. If a guy is charismatic, he's going to want a girl with charisma in addition to her good looks. A woman does need "swag" if she wants a long term relationship to work. "Swag" in this context is confidence, charisma, wit and personal style. Any guy can find a pretty girl, but a guy will take a hit in the looks department for a girl with "Swag".Especially for a girl thats funny.
@DaSurreal1da He already has a girl who has a pretty face & "swag" (or at the very least, a compatible & appealing personality) but she just plain isn't good enough because she's not a "dime piece" or she's too "blue-black". There is nothing wrong with liking good-looking women but if you wanna woman that *looks* like a silicone gynoid, why complain that she *acts* like one too? Btw, the "swag" thing gets confusing to some because for years I heard/read BM on the internet say it means "thug"
@BValchan I dont know who SWP's dating but the point of the vid was dime piece looks arent good enough to hold a dudes interest in a relationship.As for looking for a woman looking like a "silicone gynoid"and complaining she acts like one too,Since when does the archetype of beauty equal a boring vacuous personality. A dude is looking for looks as well as those certain intangibles.What SWP was saying that I agree with is that looks with no "swag"(check my def)will not hold my long term interest.
@DaSurreal1da "As for looking for a woman looking like a "silicone gynoid"and complaining she acts like one too,Since when does the archetype of beauty equal a boring vacuous personality."
The true issue @ hand here is not that some men want "beauty/pretty looks & an appealing personality" but that they want "dime piece/air-brushed/perfect/plastic" looks an appealing personality. Women who have looked perfect all of thier lives are praised so much for that alone that they may lack a lesser
@BValchan Society can say whatever it wants. Im willing to bet you're not even interested in those guys that want the vacuous dimes we're speaking of. Its like me speaking about hood chicks on crack. Im not checking for them,you're not one of them. Why speak on them.Those are the men of no substance. Im speaking for the men with substance and basic common sense. I'm telling you from an insiders perspective, that dime piece with only looks will not trump an 8 with"swag" given the choice.
@DaSurreal1da "Im willing to bet you're not even interested in those guys that want the vacuous dimes we're speaking of. Its like me speaking about hood chicks on crack."
You're correct, however if you read my other comments on this page, you'd see that *sometimes* the men of substance (or men who have personalities that I would find appealing) just want a "dime piece" as well. You can't speak for all of them anymore than I can. I don't care if a man has a whole bunch of muscles nor do I
@BValchan Im not speaking for "all men" i speak for a majority of the dudes with substance and common sense. The men you find desirable that "sometimes" wife up the air head dime piece are a minority of the men you seek. Why worry about the fringes you may not be able to reach, focus on the multitudes you can.
@DaSurreal1da In my personal life I *don't* worry about them, but go back & read my comment on "nerdy men" & you'll see where I'm coming from...It's nice that you have substance, but all men with it don't think like you, just like all young women of substance don't think like me. Most women don't share my aesthetic or personality taste in men @ all actually, so I can't speak for anybody but myself.
@DaSurreal1da *cont* because society as a whole tells them that a robotic "dime piece" will always trump a charismatic 7 or an 8. It's the same thing with muscular and/or rich or almost rich men; they're often times vacuous ass holes with entitlement issues...I'm not saying YOU want a woman who is aesthetically flawless & you refuse to accept an 8 with a nice persona, but some guys are like that. Those are the guys that sound obnoxious complaining about "no personality".
@BValchan Where have you heard that? A 10 with no personality certainly trumps a 5 or 6, but many, many guys would take a 7 or 8 with a great personality over a beautiful woman with no personality. It's often a package deal: beautiful women with no personality are hard to entertain and are more likely to be bored with the guy, spend up his money and/orcheat. Guys are wise to this.
@swpdisciple SOME guys are wise to that & others aren't (hence the shelf life of typical celeb marriages) and I said "society as a whole" treats the best-looking people the nicest ways, which sends the message that personality doesn't matter...Thankfully, I'm a pretty grounded & disciplined person & don't allow myself to become so jaded & misanthropic to the point where I don't have a personality, but still...
"Any guy can find a pretty girl, but a guy will take a hit in the looks department for a girl with "Swag"
I'm not saying you want a beautiful woman and that's it. I said you only care about the other things a woman has to offer IF you like the way she looks (if she's beautiful TO YOU).
@UHeardMe1stTime I understand that and i agree. What Im saying is that the whole concept of a woman "doesnt have to DO anything" is wrong on the basis of Looks just arent enough. No one wants just a pretty face to be at his side. Money has nothing to do with swag in this context. It has everything to do with charisma, humor and personality and a charming demeanor.This is the "Swag" any decent man cannot do without.Yes we do primarily focus on looks, but without swag, its just a short term deal.
@tony666ism she can take the L in stride. No one is attractive to everybody. Thats just the way of the world. Just focus on who you can attract instead of giving a second thought to who you cant.
@tony666ism Agreed. Well said...I mean what's the point in bitching about a woman's "attitude" when you wouldn't want her even if she was nice (and no I'm not talking about overweight, weaves or anything else that can be changed *naturally*)
This goes back to the Vanity Fair Article Christopher Hitchens did that got him in some trouble. He basically said female comedians(and females in general) are not as funny as men. Why? Because humor is not something females need to attract males. Sure its a plus but if the woman is unattractive humor doesnt help.
yeah he push the gym thing when you really dont have to go into the gym to lose weight. calories in vs calories out determines whether you lose or gain weight or stay the same weight....
Also the woman not being funny part you stated may be true for white culture but that isn't true for latin and black culture at least in U.S.A. and the Caribbean because I heard a lot of funny women in my life. I think you are looking at life a too left brain and not seeing the whole picture. Emotional aspects make life what it is.If you just look at life with an analytical view you won't observe things in their true nature because you can't see how the emotions shape what you're observing.
@bubblehashman You may have a point there; lots of the women in my family (especially my mother; who is also attractive) are very quick-witted & playfully snarky. Matter of fact, I find Uheardme funny/witty too.
Now that I think of it the way the women are funny seems to be just like you stated, playfully snarky. They know how to make a criticism funny when they want to whereas a male may be funny by observing things and making you see them in a different way.
When I think of a chick with swag it would be someone like Tonyatko. She has a sense of humor, intelligent so she can converse about different things. she is beautiful and sexual which is important because without the sexual energy beauty means nothing but friendship or a quick nut. She has style and can switch it up which makes me look at her differently when she does this. I will not be tired of her look. This keeps the man focused on you. That's a tip for you women.
I think you're not getting the WHOLE picture. Yes men want beauty but if that is all you have then chances are he will wife you but I bet you he will be cheating on you because he will be getting bored of you. I heard SWP's video and he is right.
If I find the beauty, which is many styles not just what tv says, and swag(character) I will definitely choose the chick with both instead of one. If I can't find both in a woman there is a chance I won't stay in the relationship long due to boredom.
I'd say there are more funnier male comedians than female, but most of my favorite comedians are women. Not because they are women, but because they tend to make jokes that I find funnier. Don't get me wrong. Chris Rock is hilarious among other male C's, but on my list of favorite comedians, the female list is longer.
I love what you address because in this day and age of a dominant culture which promotes a FALSE IDEOLOGY of FEMALE EMPOWERMENT- Men and women enter dialouge without any consideration of gender difference. In this hyper-liberalized era, It is almost like a sin to speak of gender difference. It's really difficult for both gender and non-gender to coincide together because they are antithetical. How can I support feminism and gay rights when they won't accept WHO I AM?
I can't speak for all men, but for me, beauty is not enough for me to want to be in a relationship with a woman. She has to bring other qualities to the table including intelligence and a pleasing personality.
Physical attractiveness works for booty calls, but that's about it. You can't have sex 24 hours a day...you're going to have to deal with her outside of the bedroom also. If I have to sign a marriage document and risk losing half of what I have I need someone with more to offer.
Whatever "swag" really means, my sympathy for men who don't have it & refer to themselves as "nerds" or "corny" is minimal; here's why: In many a forum discussion whenever I or anyone else would tell these nerdy men to go for nerdy gals, thier response was something along the lines of this:
"Lulz, nerdy gurls r ugly n fat lik teh preshus aktrezz hurrr dur dur!" Oh really? Well, fuck you to then! It's like what pinkelephant said : non-mainstream people wanting mainstream love.
Nailed it with the Pinkk reference! I understand that nerdy men are MEN and want decent looking women, but a lot of them would rather fantasize about super-dimes than to talk to the non-fat, decent looking, 'shy'/'nerdy' women.
They have the right to go after whatever women they like but they cant complain about lacking female company...
@Unekwu89 Sarge's reply to this video proved my point as well "You just want us to find ugly women, attractive & date them for thier personalities" NOBODY SAID THAT MORONS! But if you're going to focus on cookie-cutter looks alone don't bitch when she comes with a cookie cutter personality to match...I use to have sympathy for black male nerds because I'm one myself (just female that is) & male nerds are a turn-on to me but some of them are just as insipid as the "hood chicks" they bitch about,
@UHeardMe1stTime This is why he gets on my nerves; he puts words into people's mouths (strawman) & wants to talk about "ad hominem" attacks when the innuendo of "ugly girl anthem" is an ad hom attack in & of itself...EVERYBODY is "ugly" to somebody else; even him (he probably busts his ass @ the gym to overcompensate for a plain face) Nobody is exempt from that view. Hell, some people call Angelina Jolie "ugly".
@tony666ism Yeah & alot of upper middle class and/or "Jock McCock" guys tend to be douchebags, THEY think thier personality & they treat people doesn't matter. We complain about people like this, yet we as a society create them.
I agree with this vid to a certain extent. Speaking for myself at least, a women does have to have a great personality and sense of humor. If a woman is just beautiful but is as interesting as a door stop, all I'm a wanna do is fuck her, and if thats not gonna happen then I'm wasting my time. A hate boring women.
i dont just value looks/ youth in a woman, although those things are relatively important. i like women who are intelligent (not just when it comes to academia, but also in life - thoughtful), hard-working, respectful, honest, and kind. but youre right that i dont care about the money that they have. i do respect women who do something worthwhile (career-wise) and work hard.
well yeah, they're more attractive to the senses. i've just always found it hypocritical that women rarely have to work on their character. everything they bring to the table is purely external.
@marcusinHD That's because the conventionally beautiful women usually get thier ways & grow up getting by off of looks alone, whereas unconventional women are subliminally told that they are worthless & should just go die in a grease fire.
For the life of me, I have no clue why some women want to jeopardize their health by taking steroids to increase their testostrone level in an effort to become as big and unattractive as the woman in the photo. Show me a guy who's attracted to a woman with big muscles, and I'll show you a gay man in the closet. Show me a man who's attracted to a woman who likes to dress and act like a "gangsta" rapper, and I'll show you another gay man in the closet.LOL!
About losing weight his right its gym but thats a guys view because guys usually do heavy weights and cardio to lose weight it burns more calories i guess women should focus more on diet , good video tho i agree with it
@princejlee losing weight and losing body fat are 2 different things. one could go to gym daily an still not lose body fat but they could lose weight. one cannot get a 6 pack abs by doing exercises alone, diet is key e.g to be a body builder it's all about diet and exercise not exercise alone. so him saying losing weight is about gym gym gym, is 100% wrong
Yeah,I slightly agree, but this is all going to change seeing that more and more women are going into the workplace than ever before, and as a result, men are probably going to gradually seek women who have the right looks and money.Its impossible for the average man to live the american dream without a dual salary these days, courtesy of inflation. John mccain, being a prime example of the kind of man that I am talking about we are going to continue to see in the near future
FEMINISM was one element, but inflation was the primary driving factor behind the dual income that we have in place today. If you don't see how they are linked , then you probably don't understand how inflation greatly influences our standard of living. In the 1950's , a person could save up and buy a house with one income. In 1968 , the average house in california was 28000 dollars. Now, the average house in california cost at near 400000 dollars. All inflation baby.
@Pentazoid111 Well you better get ready for hyper inflation coming up, cause the federal reserve is gonna dump more money in the system and make things worst than ever.
@UHeardMe1stTime also the word swag is getting on my nerves toomany people that damn word lol . i remember when use to hear just in the hood and now everyones uses it . lol like it urks me sometimes to hear non hip people trying to use it to sound hip . eipc fail lol
@UHeardMe1stTime most of the reason women started working outside the home wasnt because they wanted to be bra burning feminist , it was because their husbands used money to control them or they were physicallly coming home beating the shit out of his wife because of the stress in the work environment outside his house & that is the way he felt in control of his world by abusing his wife. Most women would love to have a man be the man outside the house bringing in the bacon but alot of them wont
@TEEWEE01 add too comment @uheardme1sttime, forgot another reason women started working outside the house when world war 1 and world war2 has in play women worked to save their husbands lives in factories building weapons to either shield men or allow men to protect themselves. but the previous comment was after those wars.
@UHeardMe1stTime I saw that Christopher Hitchens video a long time ago...quite interesting. I think what SWP was saying is that dating (man and woman) isn't fair. In essence, as a man, you have to be BETTER than the woman. Further, oftentimes, as a man you can be superior to the woman you're approaching (in terms of measureable competencies) and STILL get shot down. I THINK that's what he was alluding to.
Maybe he WAS alluding to that but he said "What do YOU do?" as if women are measured equally on what they do. And he said something like if women require swag shouldn't they also have it? Not necessarily OR not on the same level as a man.
I'm not saying you WANT a hot chick with no personality, but I think most men would take that over an ugly chick that had everything else in order.
Good video....even though it has nothing to do with what you talked about....I do wonder if you are an atheist since you've referred to two that I know of. Also, why do you constantly debate SWP when his approach is all wrong but, I have to admit he does have a truth about what he speaks on.
Thank God I'm single........... I just Fuck'em and Dump'em! Guy's... don't ever marry. -DO NOT GET MARRIED!!!!!!!!! Just Fuck'em & Dump'em!
Aonexia 2 weeks ago
Just luvin' the pic lol
TheQueenIsWithin 2 months ago
WORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
swimminglikeaquaman 2 months ago
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There is a very informative book called "The Black Girl Curse" that covers this exact subject. Black men were falling and crawling to black women until black women completely lost their minds behind an absolute tsunami of government assistance programs in the mid 70's and early 80's that ranged from free rent and medical care to free on the job training to preferred military recruiting for minority females and since the mid 70's there has been a mass exodus away from black women.
pc0p1mp 2 months ago
You sound like one of those nedy black girls who don't wear makeup and wear dark clothing all the time. Stop complaining about black men all the time. We don't like you anyway, LOL.
YoungHorusMedia 4 months ago
Stop making videos you suck!
YoungHorusMedia 4 months ago
This girl talks so much shit. So annoying
YoungHorusMedia 4 months ago
@YoungHorusMedia
And yet you keep watching? lol
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Do you not believe in God?
tapdancingtom 9 months ago
beauty is enuff to breed but not enuff 4 investment.
mykole84 1 year ago
THEN U TURN AROUND AND SAY THAT WOMEN NEED TO LOSE WEIGHT! WHICH IS IT ????
micpeee 1 year ago
I believe that you missed his point. Yes, from an evolutionary standpoint, women primarily need beauty to attract the average man. However, SWP was speaking from a philosophical standpoint.
DIRTYDUNNZ 1 year ago
@DIRTYDUNNZ
Oh, ok.
UHeardMe1stTime 1 year ago
@UHeardMe1stTime
Whats the name of your other channel?
sansez 6 months ago
@sansez
ellegantgirl
UHeardMe1stTime 6 months ago
"A piss poor bitch. " lol
SkinnyFATGurl 1 year ago
You make some sense in this video. Have you heard that saying, "men are like archers and women are like bullseyes?" What that means is women don't have to do anything while men have to do a lot, including practice. That saying jives with what you're saying.
radiodriver10 1 year ago
I follow most of what UHM1T is saying and I agree with it except that she makes it seem as though most women dont need or really want to be physically attracted to a guy.
All those qualities she mentioned that a guy can attract a female with are true, but if she doesnt find the guy atleast somewhat physically attractive she'll just put him in the friendzone.
A man's appearance is important. Women are extremely superficial as are men. Its just they have more parts to focus on & decorate.
SLICENSLASH 1 year ago
BS
darpachief 1 year ago
Hitchens - really ?!? But his arguments are so superficial and convoluted.... I mean talk about overbearing and bias. So sad that you leave your eternal existence and destiny to the likes of such a cynical, calculating, unfeeling, God- Hating person as this man. Have you ever met him personally, BTW ?
shieldsff 1 year ago
@shieldsff
I don't follow Hitchens. I was an atheist before I even heard of him. I don't necessarily agree with everything he says.But when he's right, he's right.
UHeardMe1stTime 1 year ago
@UHeardMe1stTime- that's certainly debatable. If you're referring to.say, his series on Kissinger's criminal machinations, then I agree he is compelling. However, when it relates to his uninformed, strident denunciations & condemnations of the One Living JudeoChristian Creator (of the Bible) he could not be more misguided & delusional. There is NO process of reasoning that would provide him an empirical Reason for his (non)'beliefs'. Also, do you agree, morally, there is absolute rite & wrong ?
shieldsff 1 year ago
eeeeewwwwwwww what's with this muscle woman in the vid?....eeeewwwwwwww
MyMadra 1 year ago
Well women dont have to do anything except dress up and make themselves look sexy or pretty, or both. And then wait for the approaching males to come and then pick one or two. lol Seems easy if you ask me. I am not complaining about it, but I'm just saying. the title is right...
nmr20067 1 year ago
doctors barely learn about nutrition and fitness at school, they just learn how to run tests and pharmaceuticals.
y100269 1 year ago
I'm a woman and I don't need to clean, I don't need to cook. I don't need to fold laundry. I don't need to have kids.
FearlessResistance 1 year ago
@FearlessResistance Do you plan on being in a relationship with a man?
kmcl11 1 year ago 2
@kmcl11 first point, Not all men want kids. And I like equality. Why should I do ALL of the housework when I am 50% of the financial support? If I do all the cooking, he should clean. it's just fair. And yes I am in a relationship, and no he doesn't want kids. I also like women, and if I'm down for letting him play with me and another woman at the same time, why wouldn't he be down with that? traditional is boring.
FearlessResistance 1 year ago
I responed to the fact that you don't cook, clean, etc. As for the rest of your post you said it right "If i am down for". The end
kmcl11 1 year ago
This has to be my favorite channel on youtube. I LOVE listening to your vids.
kittybookitty 1 year ago
4:00ff No you're bloody well not, that's what my new channel is all about and I dont need competition from the likes of you!
BTW, dont give 'docs' a hard time about nutrition, it's not something they spend a lot of time learning. Their primary concern is how to fix things that have gone wrong (drugs, surgery...), there isnt that much time to dedicate to lifestyle education, something that can be a very involved undertaking.
cinenglland 1 year ago
If I take the posts by men on this video, you'd think the next abc special on black women would be the "dimes" with no personality complaining they can't get a man to marry them. Why do I not see that happening? LULZ
XtraKnowledge 1 year ago
@XtraKnowledge exactly. Good looking women regardless of personality will always attract and keep men. Thats just a fact.
Atemaatra 1 year ago
LOL @ from 3:50--on
WhereYaBoss 1 year ago
Woman need beauty, personality & kindness!!!!!! Most woman are lacking all three. He actually talking about getting the courage to go to the gym. How he going to tell you about how to lose weight when many bw refuse to go to the gym. They prefer to watch Housewives of Atlanta!!!!
MrPrettyBoyChina 1 year ago
true what you said about women giving men mroe options, i know when i go "hunting" (lol) im not worrying if i can quickly show a guy in a lounge/club/wherever my personality, id ya know what i mean. My and all my girls have talked abou this, we try to appeal to men visually first and then worry about that other stuff. That bullshit "personality matters" shit is tiring... yes, eventually but at first all people have is the visual, THEN we get to the stuff you cant see.
rainonmebi 1 year ago
Dunno what the hell this term means or how it originated. I should default to mocking the subject.
Efferts 1 year ago
...also "SWAG is not gender BASED. Sure women can have SWAG. They MIGHT not use that term to describe their "OVERALL PRESENTATION" of themselves to others but attributes Like "CONFIDENT DEMEANOR" & "SPECIAL CARE" of how you present yourself to others, sprinkled with a bit of an interesting yet intriguing personality, SHOULD be a goal for everyone. THAT is SWAG. But believable confidence is KEY! The other two fall apart if his or her insecurities are OBVIOUS.
RevolutionaryINK 1 year ago
@RevolutionaryINK
"Sure women can have SWAG."
And women can have huge muscles, a lot of money, power & be funny. But we don't need it on the same level that men do.
UHeardMe1stTime 1 year ago
@UHeardMe1stTime
Naw, yall don't NEED it. Men will except women as the are whether flawed or flawless. It's the nature of things. On the other hand, the type of swag I described is almost DEMANDED by women, otherwise the swag-less males find themselves having to settle for what ever female will have him. That's the NATURE of things also. That's why MALE peacocks have the pretty feathers and strut, Male lions have the Beautiful manes and strut, Male animals with big horns & antlers, etc.
RevolutionaryINK 1 year ago
@ImALilMuch
As always, words adopted by the black community can have alternate or adjusted means the differ from the definition originally prescribed to the word. The definition you gave is not necessarily completely accurate, as it defines Swag in the most EXTREME terms. True, Confidence is a factor but "supercilious arrogance" is not necessary to "have swag". It's more about a confident demeanor coupled with specific care when presenting oneself to others.
RevolutionaryINK 1 year ago
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RevolutionaryINK 1 year ago
I disagree. I have to side with SWP on this one. His point was a woman has to be more than just pretty. If a guy is charismatic, he's going to want a girl with charisma in addition to her good looks. A woman does need "swag" if she wants a long term relationship to work. "Swag" in this context is confidence, charisma, wit and personal style. Any guy can find a pretty girl, but a guy will take a hit in the looks department for a girl with "Swag".Especially for a girl thats funny.
DaSurreal1da 1 year ago
@DaSurreal1da He already has a girl who has a pretty face & "swag" (or at the very least, a compatible & appealing personality) but she just plain isn't good enough because she's not a "dime piece" or she's too "blue-black". There is nothing wrong with liking good-looking women but if you wanna woman that *looks* like a silicone gynoid, why complain that she *acts* like one too? Btw, the "swag" thing gets confusing to some because for years I heard/read BM on the internet say it means "thug"
BValchan 1 year ago
@BValchan I dont know who SWP's dating but the point of the vid was dime piece looks arent good enough to hold a dudes interest in a relationship.As for looking for a woman looking like a "silicone gynoid"and complaining she acts like one too,Since when does the archetype of beauty equal a boring vacuous personality. A dude is looking for looks as well as those certain intangibles.What SWP was saying that I agree with is that looks with no "swag"(check my def)will not hold my long term interest.
DaSurreal1da 1 year ago
@DaSurreal1da No I agree with this too (EVERYBODY should have an appealing personality) but coming from Sarge it sounds hypocritical, that's all.
BValchan 1 year ago
@DaSurreal1da "As for looking for a woman looking like a "silicone gynoid"and complaining she acts like one too,Since when does the archetype of beauty equal a boring vacuous personality."
The true issue @ hand here is not that some men want "beauty/pretty looks & an appealing personality" but that they want "dime piece/air-brushed/perfect/plastic" looks an appealing personality. Women who have looked perfect all of thier lives are praised so much for that alone that they may lack a lesser
BValchan 1 year ago
@BValchan Society can say whatever it wants. Im willing to bet you're not even interested in those guys that want the vacuous dimes we're speaking of. Its like me speaking about hood chicks on crack. Im not checking for them,you're not one of them. Why speak on them.Those are the men of no substance. Im speaking for the men with substance and basic common sense. I'm telling you from an insiders perspective, that dime piece with only looks will not trump an 8 with"swag" given the choice.
DaSurreal1da 1 year ago
@DaSurreal1da "Im willing to bet you're not even interested in those guys that want the vacuous dimes we're speaking of. Its like me speaking about hood chicks on crack."
You're correct, however if you read my other comments on this page, you'd see that *sometimes* the men of substance (or men who have personalities that I would find appealing) just want a "dime piece" as well. You can't speak for all of them anymore than I can. I don't care if a man has a whole bunch of muscles nor do I
BValchan 1 year ago
@DaSurreal1da *cont* care about "swag" or "BET" or any of that crap, but I can't speak for all young women because *some* young women care.
BValchan 1 year ago
@BValchan Im not speaking for "all men" i speak for a majority of the dudes with substance and common sense. The men you find desirable that "sometimes" wife up the air head dime piece are a minority of the men you seek. Why worry about the fringes you may not be able to reach, focus on the multitudes you can.
DaSurreal1da 1 year ago
@DaSurreal1da In my personal life I *don't* worry about them, but go back & read my comment on "nerdy men" & you'll see where I'm coming from...It's nice that you have substance, but all men with it don't think like you, just like all young women of substance don't think like me. Most women don't share my aesthetic or personality taste in men @ all actually, so I can't speak for anybody but myself.
BValchan 1 year ago
@DaSurreal1da *cont* because society as a whole tells them that a robotic "dime piece" will always trump a charismatic 7 or an 8. It's the same thing with muscular and/or rich or almost rich men; they're often times vacuous ass holes with entitlement issues...I'm not saying YOU want a woman who is aesthetically flawless & you refuse to accept an 8 with a nice persona, but some guys are like that. Those are the guys that sound obnoxious complaining about "no personality".
BValchan 1 year ago
@BValchan Where have you heard that? A 10 with no personality certainly trumps a 5 or 6, but many, many guys would take a 7 or 8 with a great personality over a beautiful woman with no personality. It's often a package deal: beautiful women with no personality are hard to entertain and are more likely to be bored with the guy, spend up his money and/orcheat. Guys are wise to this.
swpdisciple 1 year ago
@swpdisciple SOME guys are wise to that & others aren't (hence the shelf life of typical celeb marriages) and I said "society as a whole" treats the best-looking people the nicest ways, which sends the message that personality doesn't matter...Thankfully, I'm a pretty grounded & disciplined person & don't allow myself to become so jaded & misanthropic to the point where I don't have a personality, but still...
BValchan 1 year ago
@DaSurreal1da *cont* I mean that they may "have a lesser personality"...Please excuse any typos.
BValchan 1 year ago
@DaSurreal1da
"Any guy can find a pretty girl, but a guy will take a hit in the looks department for a girl with "Swag"
I'm not saying you want a beautiful woman and that's it. I said you only care about the other things a woman has to offer IF you like the way she looks (if she's beautiful TO YOU).
UHeardMe1stTime 1 year ago
@UHeardMe1stTime I understand that and i agree. What Im saying is that the whole concept of a woman "doesnt have to DO anything" is wrong on the basis of Looks just arent enough. No one wants just a pretty face to be at his side. Money has nothing to do with swag in this context. It has everything to do with charisma, humor and personality and a charming demeanor.This is the "Swag" any decent man cannot do without.Yes we do primarily focus on looks, but without swag, its just a short term deal.
DaSurreal1da 1 year ago
@DaSurreal1da
but the look come first befor you even start checking for anything else
so if a man dosn't find your very race attractive (black women)
what else can she do
nothing
tony666ism 1 year ago
@tony666ism she can take the L in stride. No one is attractive to everybody. Thats just the way of the world. Just focus on who you can attract instead of giving a second thought to who you cant.
DaSurreal1da 1 year ago
@DaSurreal1da
well i can't take the criticism seriously when its coming from a guy like SWP
when the only way i can get him attracted to me is to change my races
so i don't want to hear anything about my personality from him
tony666ism 1 year ago
@tony666ism Agreed. Well said...I mean what's the point in bitching about a woman's "attitude" when you wouldn't want her even if she was nice (and no I'm not talking about overweight, weaves or anything else that can be changed *naturally*)
BValchan 1 year ago
Is that her in the pic
242Gilbert 1 year ago
@ImALilMuch =) thanks so swag means self absorption.
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
whens the new channel debuting? I need some healthy eating tips, preferably from someone like you...
Unekwu89 1 year ago
This goes back to the Vanity Fair Article Christopher Hitchens did that got him in some trouble. He basically said female comedians(and females in general) are not as funny as men. Why? Because humor is not something females need to attract males. Sure its a plus but if the woman is unattractive humor doesnt help.
Unekwu89 1 year ago
@Unekwu89
LOL you beat me too it 1sttime!
Unekwu89 1 year ago
yeah he push the gym thing when you really dont have to go into the gym to lose weight. calories in vs calories out determines whether you lose or gain weight or stay the same weight....
imsatindoll 1 year ago
Regarding you video pic: Are you a man? yuk! I love intelligence! pss...I may be wrong but I think you got a thing for SWP
jamminc07g 1 year ago
@ImALilMuch sorry what is swag? Not sure what that means.
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
@TEEWEE01 Glad I'm not the only one here who doesn't know what it is.
BValchan 1 year ago
i wish guys would admit that more often 1:40
when they talk about a woman's atitude and personality, they should be honest and add on
"ofcourse she has to be pretty first"
tony666ism 1 year ago
Also the woman not being funny part you stated may be true for white culture but that isn't true for latin and black culture at least in U.S.A. and the Caribbean because I heard a lot of funny women in my life. I think you are looking at life a too left brain and not seeing the whole picture. Emotional aspects make life what it is.If you just look at life with an analytical view you won't observe things in their true nature because you can't see how the emotions shape what you're observing.
bubblehashman 1 year ago
@bubblehashman You may have a point there; lots of the women in my family (especially my mother; who is also attractive) are very quick-witted & playfully snarky. Matter of fact, I find Uheardme funny/witty too.
BValchan 1 year ago
@BValchan
Now that I think of it the way the women are funny seems to be just like you stated, playfully snarky. They know how to make a criticism funny when they want to whereas a male may be funny by observing things and making you see them in a different way.
bubblehashman 1 year ago
When I think of a chick with swag it would be someone like Tonyatko. She has a sense of humor, intelligent so she can converse about different things. she is beautiful and sexual which is important because without the sexual energy beauty means nothing but friendship or a quick nut. She has style and can switch it up which makes me look at her differently when she does this. I will not be tired of her look. This keeps the man focused on you. That's a tip for you women.
bubblehashman 1 year ago
I think you're not getting the WHOLE picture. Yes men want beauty but if that is all you have then chances are he will wife you but I bet you he will be cheating on you because he will be getting bored of you. I heard SWP's video and he is right.
If I find the beauty, which is many styles not just what tv says, and swag(character) I will definitely choose the chick with both instead of one. If I can't find both in a woman there is a chance I won't stay in the relationship long due to boredom.
bubblehashman 1 year ago
I'd say there are more funnier male comedians than female, but most of my favorite comedians are women. Not because they are women, but because they tend to make jokes that I find funnier. Don't get me wrong. Chris Rock is hilarious among other male C's, but on my list of favorite comedians, the female list is longer.
ImNotYourFriend212 1 year ago
I love what you address because in this day and age of a dominant culture which promotes a FALSE IDEOLOGY of FEMALE EMPOWERMENT- Men and women enter dialouge without any consideration of gender difference. In this hyper-liberalized era, It is almost like a sin to speak of gender difference. It's really difficult for both gender and non-gender to coincide together because they are antithetical. How can I support feminism and gay rights when they won't accept WHO I AM?
LadyNemesis2007 1 year ago
I can't speak for all men, but for me, beauty is not enough for me to want to be in a relationship with a woman. She has to bring other qualities to the table including intelligence and a pleasing personality.
Physical attractiveness works for booty calls, but that's about it. You can't have sex 24 hours a day...you're going to have to deal with her outside of the bedroom also. If I have to sign a marriage document and risk losing half of what I have I need someone with more to offer.
JunebugObama 1 year ago 22
@JunebugObama
but befor you even consider what else she has to offer she still has to be pretty first
tony666ism 1 year ago
@JunebugObama ...Co-Sign..
DaSurreal1da 1 year ago
@JunebugObama preach
ambi101 1 year ago
Whatever "swag" really means, my sympathy for men who don't have it & refer to themselves as "nerds" or "corny" is minimal; here's why: In many a forum discussion whenever I or anyone else would tell these nerdy men to go for nerdy gals, thier response was something along the lines of this:
"Lulz, nerdy gurls r ugly n fat lik teh preshus aktrezz hurrr dur dur!" Oh really? Well, fuck you to then! It's like what pinkelephant said : non-mainstream people wanting mainstream love.
BValchan 1 year ago
@BValchan
Nailed it with the Pinkk reference! I understand that nerdy men are MEN and want decent looking women, but a lot of them would rather fantasize about super-dimes than to talk to the non-fat, decent looking, 'shy'/'nerdy' women.
They have the right to go after whatever women they like but they cant complain about lacking female company...
Unekwu89 1 year ago
@Unekwu89 Sarge's reply to this video proved my point as well "You just want us to find ugly women, attractive & date them for thier personalities" NOBODY SAID THAT MORONS! But if you're going to focus on cookie-cutter looks alone don't bitch when she comes with a cookie cutter personality to match...I use to have sympathy for black male nerds because I'm one myself (just female that is) & male nerds are a turn-on to me but some of them are just as insipid as the "hood chicks" they bitch about,
BValchan 1 year ago
@BValchan
"You just want us to find ugly women, attractive & date them for their personalities"
SWP should tell me when I EVER said that. I tell HIM that he is TOOOO focused on looks, but I am only talking to him, not men in general.
UHeardMe1stTime 1 year ago
@UHeardMe1stTime This is why he gets on my nerves; he puts words into people's mouths (strawman) & wants to talk about "ad hominem" attacks when the innuendo of "ugly girl anthem" is an ad hom attack in & of itself...EVERYBODY is "ugly" to somebody else; even him (he probably busts his ass @ the gym to overcompensate for a plain face) Nobody is exempt from that view. Hell, some people call Angelina Jolie "ugly".
BValchan 1 year ago
Those muscles are hideous.
nana89london 1 year ago 3
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nana89london 1 year ago
thats why alot of the beautiful women you see are total bitches
throgh exprience they learn that they don't need to be sweet to catch a guy
tony666ism 1 year ago 3
@tony666ism Yeah & alot of upper middle class and/or "Jock McCock" guys tend to be douchebags, THEY think thier personality & they treat people doesn't matter. We complain about people like this, yet we as a society create them.
BValchan 1 year ago 3
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@BValchan & *how* they treat people doesn't matter.
BValchan 1 year ago 2
I agree with this vid to a certain extent. Speaking for myself at least, a women does have to have a great personality and sense of humor. If a woman is just beautiful but is as interesting as a door stop, all I'm a wanna do is fuck her, and if thats not gonna happen then I'm wasting my time. A hate boring women.
LawlessLaw 1 year ago
@LawlessLaw I agree. Looks and youth may attract a man, but it definitely won't keep him around.
spucy 1 year ago
i dont just value looks/ youth in a woman, although those things are relatively important. i like women who are intelligent (not just when it comes to academia, but also in life - thoughtful), hard-working, respectful, honest, and kind. but youre right that i dont care about the money that they have. i do respect women who do something worthwhile (career-wise) and work hard.
66mikedove99 1 year ago
I don't even know what "swag" means/is....Don't care either; so why would I value it in a man?
BValchan 1 year ago
True. Just watch the show Millionaire Matchmaker. lol
cinSity3796 1 year ago
UHeard kind of disproves her own argument about "swagger" since I've never seen her, and I think she's one of the more compelling women on YouTube
QuartuvLarry 1 year ago
generally, i agree, but women are really fucking boring sometimes. it's usually the unattractive women that exhibit some sort of personality
marcusinHD 1 year ago
@marcusinHD
yet the attractive women still gets more guys
tony666ism 1 year ago
@tony666ism
well yeah, they're more attractive to the senses. i've just always found it hypocritical that women rarely have to work on their character. everything they bring to the table is purely external.
marcusinHD 1 year ago 3
@marcusinHD
well thats not the women's fault
tony666ism 1 year ago
@marcusinHD That's because the conventionally beautiful women usually get thier ways & grow up getting by off of looks alone, whereas unconventional women are subliminally told that they are worthless & should just go die in a grease fire.
BValchan 1 year ago 10
@BValchan lol
LawlessLaw 1 year ago
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@BValchan , whereas unconventional women are subliminally told that they are worthless & should just go die in a grease fire.
OUCH! LOL
nana89london 1 year ago
@marcusinHD they compensaate
411PAP 1 year ago
you are right.
lbady219 1 year ago
ALL WOMEN NEED TO DO IS BE SWEET FEEL SOFT SMELL GOOD AND HAVE A GOOD MIND.EVERYTHING ELSE JUST FALLS IN PLACE...
Tuff22 1 year ago
For the life of me, I have no clue why some women want to jeopardize their health by taking steroids to increase their testostrone level in an effort to become as big and unattractive as the woman in the photo. Show me a guy who's attracted to a woman with big muscles, and I'll show you a gay man in the closet. Show me a man who's attracted to a woman who likes to dress and act like a "gangsta" rapper, and I'll show you another gay man in the closet.LOL!
Solowizard 1 year ago
women arent funny because...to quote borat...they have brain the size of squirrel
TheBigBadWoIf 1 year ago
About losing weight his right its gym but thats a guys view because guys usually do heavy weights and cardio to lose weight it burns more calories i guess women should focus more on diet , good video tho i agree with it
princejlee 1 year ago
@princejlee losing weight and losing body fat are 2 different things. one could go to gym daily an still not lose body fat but they could lose weight. one cannot get a 6 pack abs by doing exercises alone, diet is key e.g to be a body builder it's all about diet and exercise not exercise alone. so him saying losing weight is about gym gym gym, is 100% wrong
seygra20 1 year ago
Great point debater
Auntkekebaby 1 year ago
Yeah,I slightly agree, but this is all going to change seeing that more and more women are going into the workplace than ever before, and as a result, men are probably going to gradually seek women who have the right looks and money.Its impossible for the average man to live the american dream without a dual salary these days, courtesy of inflation. John mccain, being a prime example of the kind of man that I am talking about we are going to continue to see in the near future
Pentazoid111 1 year ago
@Pentazoid111
No, courtesy of FEMINISM. Once women started working outside the home, 2 salaries became necessary.
UHeardMe1stTime 1 year ago
FEMINISM was one element, but inflation was the primary driving factor behind the dual income that we have in place today. If you don't see how they are linked , then you probably don't understand how inflation greatly influences our standard of living. In the 1950's , a person could save up and buy a house with one income. In 1968 , the average house in california was 28000 dollars. Now, the average house in california cost at near 400000 dollars. All inflation baby.
Pentazoid111 1 year ago
@Pentazoid111 Well you better get ready for hyper inflation coming up, cause the federal reserve is gonna dump more money in the system and make things worst than ever.
LawlessLaw 1 year ago
@UHeardMe1stTime dang you always crush pete on arguments
TheWatcher2k10 1 year ago
@TheWatcher2k10 what is this is competition lol
ryanr20091 1 year ago
@UHeardMe1stTime yuck that female picture gives me nightmares .do you like big muscles lol like that on a man
ryanr20091 1 year ago
@UHeardMe1stTime also the word swag is getting on my nerves toomany people that damn word lol . i remember when use to hear just in the hood and now everyones uses it . lol like it urks me sometimes to hear non hip people trying to use it to sound hip . eipc fail lol
ryanr20091 1 year ago
@UHeardMe1stTime The man you responded to in your video is not Sergeant Willie Pete.
Bla3kBrigade 1 year ago
@UHeardMe1stTime most of the reason women started working outside the home wasnt because they wanted to be bra burning feminist , it was because their husbands used money to control them or they were physicallly coming home beating the shit out of his wife because of the stress in the work environment outside his house & that is the way he felt in control of his world by abusing his wife. Most women would love to have a man be the man outside the house bringing in the bacon but alot of them wont
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
@TEEWEE01 add too comment @uheardme1sttime, forgot another reason women started working outside the house when world war 1 and world war2 has in play women worked to save their husbands lives in factories building weapons to either shield men or allow men to protect themselves. but the previous comment was after those wars.
TEEWEE01 1 year ago
@UHeardMe1stTime I saw that Christopher Hitchens video a long time ago...quite interesting. I think what SWP was saying is that dating (man and woman) isn't fair. In essence, as a man, you have to be BETTER than the woman. Further, oftentimes, as a man you can be superior to the woman you're approaching (in terms of measureable competencies) and STILL get shot down. I THINK that's what he was alluding to.
swpdisciple 1 year ago
@swpdisciple
Maybe he WAS alluding to that but he said "What do YOU do?" as if women are measured equally on what they do. And he said something like if women require swag shouldn't they also have it? Not necessarily OR not on the same level as a man.
I'm not saying you WANT a hot chick with no personality, but I think most men would take that over an ugly chick that had everything else in order.
UHeardMe1stTime 1 year ago
@UHeardMe1stTime
Good video....even though it has nothing to do with what you talked about....I do wonder if you are an atheist since you've referred to two that I know of. Also, why do you constantly debate SWP when his approach is all wrong but, I have to admit he does have a truth about what he speaks on.
monopolydevil 1 year ago
Yep.
StatuesqueOne 1 year ago