Our Unborn Nature/ Adyashanti

[stellarshore]

Were'nt we more "unego'ed" many thousands of years ago?? There was less a sense of self, right? But the problem was pain. So we pursued with our intellect to try and deal with pain and hunger, manage it, heal it, using our cognition, our thumbs, etc. So what now? How do we avoid physical pain? Meditation? Really? Our thoughts are not all useless but the problem is no one knows where our thoughts will take us. So its either thought or no thought. No one knows what this guy is truly talkin bout.

[24031965GAV]

A finger pointing to the moon.Which are you looking at?

[GeorgeGogle]

Thanks, Teacher!!

[muphart]

All he seems to be doing is dividing and labeling in this talk...nothing but stirring up conflict between different "natures" and whatnot. A guy like this is trying to help end people's inner conflict, yet he's adding more to that inner BS we all carry? There's NO unconditioned nature and we're all wasting our time searching for it. That's why it's called silence, emptiness, nothingness, etc...because it's not freaking there!! He's giving people hope by playing on their fear. He's lying. 6:50

[Countrychiddler]

This guys an ego. It takes one to know one. I've seen the Divine in human form and this guy is not that. He may have a lot of subtle knowledge and intrinsic wisdom but it's all secondary.

[inf1n1]

@Countrychiddler blah blah so what! maybe he is being this way to help noobs like you maybe i could be the divine one i am if noobs like you were not watching and judging pffff

[winstono75]

@Countrychiddler Do you have an example of a public person who is divine in your perception?

[Countrychiddler]

@winstono75 I apologize for making a rather crass statement about Adyashanti. I'm sure he is an extraordinary teacher. I am no one to judge. In answer to your question, I've spent years in the company of Adi Da Samraj and all I can tell you his Spiritual Presence and Transmission is undeniable Divinity in my perception. He was not a public figure. He took mahasamadhi in 2008 but is just as powerfully present now as when he was physically alive.

[richardschooping]

Yes; as the experience is what is real now - the flowing experience. If you resonate, I have a new song here on youtube entitled "Be Here Now". Blessings BE.

[michaelpudney]

By saying my unborn nature has a nature means it is conditioned it has it's own nature.Therefore my unborn nature must condition itself from itself alone and has a permanent unchanging nature...so the question is really WHY does this unborn nature become born? Because it is a bit bored with it's unchanging nature...it wants to become born to play around...So what's wrong with playing around a bit?

[phobik2000]

Getting carried away perhaps, lost, obcessed, self-centered, disregard for others, causing harm.

[dbexperience]

Sitting and breathing, the two anchors. End of.

[Atmaniceland]

So pure being ... you are like fresh water ... peace and blessing ...

[deliciousonionsoup]

How do we know for sure that we even have an unborn nature? I'm not trying to diss things here. I'm asking a serious question. I know you'll say I'm asking this from my born nature - but I'm asking this in awareness that this might be so.

[Santisantiago]

The unborn nature is not a thing. we dont have one. What is he pointing to though? that is the question.

[DoNotBeHighandMighty]

@Santisantiago

It is a "state of being." So it does not exist as a "thing" you are right, but the "state of being" exists.

[sandwich451]

cool

[Zenday23]

Adya...a brilliant mind...a zen master. I highly recommend reading his book "Emptiness Dancing" for those looking to delve deep into the meaning of their own true nature. A statement he makes, which for me describes the essence of what we seek... "Wake up! You are all living Buddhas. You are the divine emptiness, the infinite nothing. This I know because I am what you are, and you are what I am."

[dancinglight1]

just being natural....breath is being breathed....there's no one here to make it happen. Its like laughing, if you try and make yourself laugh, you and everybody else knows its false, but when laughter just happens, its experienced as real....it just happens, theres nothing to do or get

[Hayacafrita]

ANY GUYS UP?

lets chat hG

[aberduuu]

what does he say at 5:07? cant make it out..

[lrbrose]

"And when we are in a trance... we are in our conditioned nature"

[aberduuu]

i love this, i love tolle also...It is sooo wonderful to be in this state

[hunzonian]

awesome! thank you

[trainwreckhavoc]

it just is!!! woohooo!!!

[JohnWaco]

...my neocortex will keep mediating my behavior with predictions/expectations, whether it's issuing a decision to meditate and tell myself I'm acting on my inborn self, or sending some inhibitory signals to keep me from running in mad circles.

[JohnWaco]

I'd love to believe I have multiple natures, but I can't shake my belief that my nervous system and the senses that feed it are what really form my single nature.

From a biopsychological perspective, I'm not dead when my conditioning is "erased"; after all, I wasn't dead when I was conceived.

Now for some neuroscientific theory: I can't have an unconditioned self because my neocortex is a product of conditioned gene expression, and my neocortex won't stop functioning at my command.

[dknows2]

I'm watching this presentation on television right now. It's interesting but, it's sounds like a way of dealing with life by not dealing with life. The art of not defining who we are by the unborn nature not the born nature. Interesting pysho-babble. It's like masturbation. It feels good but produces nothing.

[Wulfgar12]

guess it depends on how you define producing..

I guess you define it as something you can achieve in the ego in the world..

why would you want to achieve it..?

if it isnt arriving from your soul..

[shastafari2001]

unborn conditioned = conceptual fabrication/unborn unconditioned =non-conceptual nature. which would you rather be? you are in one or the other at all times.

[shutterdog]

just completed an intensive with adya in san rafael this past weekend, and i just want to share with you that it was one of the most amazing times of my life. thank you adya

[nicolatwo]

Unconditional. The truth is unconditional. True love is unconditional as well. Real truth is real love. By accepting the truth 100% we can become unconditionally loving.

[orin81]

this video is amazing i love it.

[koanflyer]

silence, please

[stefanzigo]

so.. can I work to condition my personality to allow for the greatest potential ammount of my unconditioned/unborn self to come through and have voice?

or am I running around in circles by making such an attempt?

[tktoadE]

Adyashanti's point of view is to skip that step and live directly from the "unborn", compassionate, relaxed, accepting essence/nature that you have always been no matter the conditioning and discover life from there.

[tktoadE]

Then, the conditioned nature will have many thoughts. You can watch them from that nonjudgmental point of view and you don't have to believe them and you don't have to act on them. Or--- you can. Let life take the next step. Try this for awhile and give it a chance and see. Enjoy and good luck. Todd.

[stefanzigo]

2 - Im sure you can see that the conditioned nature holds a firm stance to maintain its dominance of the organisms navigation. "tricking" the conditioned programming becomes a trickster's method of opening the space for the voice of the unborn.

The conditioned self must become an ally, a platform, an amplifications system for the unborn?

[tktoadE]

No tricking is needed. In fact the opposite is required--- COMPLETE HONESTY. Be compassionate with the conditioning and eventually it will be an ally with the unconditioned nature. This is also known as "letting go" or relaxing or letting thy will be done, etc. You can try this right now as you are, by letting go of any control you are trying exert over life. Explore consciously what happens when and after you do this.

[tktoadE]

For me the first few times a lot of anger arose, but it can be very different for you or others. By what you have said I suspect this isn't new for you. But the exploration will never end, will it? Enjoy the ride. Todd

[shancarballo]

I had a similar experience Todd, everytime I would try to connect with my "inner body" as Ekhart Tolle put it, in order to root myself in the present moment and away from ego, I would get a lot of anxiety, and Adyashanti's talk on complete surrender helped with that

[shancarballo]

very well put Todd, thank you for that, it was the reminder I needed just now and it came at a perfect time.

[tktoadE]

After rereading your post I will say this... If the conditioning is resisting and fighting and attempting to maintain control/dominance then allow it to be as it is compassionately. Resisting the resistance creates more of the internal "war". To end that war compassionate allowance is the best medicine ever.

[tktoadE]

Also, you can ask the conditioned nature what belief it has about letting the unconditioning to be in the forefront. You might be surprised by the answer. Then you can ask if that belief is really true, how life is when holding that belief, and what life would be like without that belief. Once this inquiry shines light on this the belief it will likely let go of itself. This last bit of inquiry is taught very well by Byron Katie at thework(dot)com.

[stefanzigo]

2 things.

1 - "accepting essence/nature that you have always been no matter the conditioning" suggests that regardless my conditioning my unborn nature will shine through. Thus, I already am. true?

[kwixotic]

I attended a retreat six years ago in Santa Cruz. He's the "real deal" if there ever was one!

[springing]

Thank you

[nil0124]

Thank you so much for making these available here.

[tktoadE]

Do you want to hear lots more Adyashanti for free? Click the "(more)" button in the description section in the right-top hand corner of this page and you will see different links in blue. I personally enjoy the cd's that I have made from downloading these audio samples. Enjoy...

[tktoadE]

My directions weren't as good as I thought they were. The description box for THIS video is to the immediate right of the video that is playing. It has the "date added", "subscribe to", and then below that is the "(more)" button. Much love.

[nomusician]

NO; in our unborn nature, we are all unique. Try THAT for a thought, and accept that there's nothing wrong with being who you are, either. No guilt trips or self-pity.

[nomusician]

teach yourself

[busteartha]

adyshanti is a terrific teacher... wise, human, real.

[jimmyp37]

never follow a guru that does not laugh... I love his ability to laugh and be HUMAN

[jimmyp37]

If you have ever read Rumi you have heard the songs of what he calls the unborn nature. As long as we seek for the "there" we will never reach it.

[TomGarn]

Yes !

[rishineti]

This is worth sharing; thank you for sharing!More!