I guess that you can buy the basic frame, and then pop in your own power-plant. One of these passed me on the roads of arizona in the desert. But the one I seen was powered by a gas engine. I took a few pics of it. I always wondered, They make motocycles, why not a single or double seater motorcycle with 4 wheels? Not everybody wants to pack the world in your car.
I love the electric sound and the idea if you can get electricity greenly, then you can have fun in a fast car, with out affecting the enviroment or anyone else.
OK, now if we can only get these things mass produced, that'll send the price way down, but that's assuming the Bush administration doesn't try to sue these cars out of existence as they successfully did with the EV1 - download "Who killed the electric car" on a torrent to see exactly what i mean
"what if it gets stuck in traffic and runs out of battery or something"
Unlike a gas powered vehicle, the electric motor is not on when the vehicle is at rest. Engines on other hand must be running continuously since they cannot make torque at 0 rpm. Which means they cannot start up themselves when off. (reason it takes an electric motor to start a gas engine :)).
With Exxon making record profits and keeping battery technology under wraps for a while. At a mere 65 billion in earnings last year and with 27 billion of that going to taxes who would want electric cars to replace all of the inefficient fossil fuel cars we all drive now???
The auto industry designs concept cars that can solve the high gas demand problem, but refuse to market them. We need Plug-in hybrid electric vehicles. Loss of revenue can make large companies, even the auto industries; change their "business model". Sure the government can help with legislation to force them to put out new technology, but the true power is in our hands. Stop buying or leasing NEW gasoline powered cars for a year. Tell everyone to wait a year. See my vids.
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Its not and Ariel Atom it is a Wrightspeed X1 using and electric motor. The chassis is made by Ariel UK, but sorry to piss on your bonfire it's a Wrightspeed X1
Ariel don't make electric powered cars they have Honda VTEC petrol engines you idiot. Do you know nothing retard?
So fucking what Arial Atom, Caterham, Ultima or Radical are as fast or if not faster and far cheaper but this is not really a road car... put the engine in a SUV and 4 fat Americans it would not move... Also how Eco friendly are batteries????? Or the power stations that are used to charge them?????
Where does most of the oil come from - and is that a really stable part of the world? EVs put the "fuel choice" into the hands of the countries who use them. We can use hydro, solar, wind, nuclear, or even coal. Power stations are a way to concentrate the generation - instead of having millions of chimney stacks driving along the roads through our neighbourhoods you have a few big ones away from where you live. And breathe easier. Or use hydro/solar/wind. :-)
yeah it can but it'd be a pain ..its so quiet so ..you would haaave to watch the revvs see with haveing no transmtion it has less mooving parts so all you gotta replace one day is the brushes in the motor cheap!
With the torque that an electric motor gives you. You could add even more transmissions and make more milage!
Even this tech. Isnt 100 Percent yet. Id like to see the tesla roadster with CVT transmission. and Cheaper LI-ION battery's. WHy is it expensive ? battery.. that will go down if everybody is going to buy such battery's. And tech goes up. So dont worry this is the future.
The electricity for these cars still has to be produced by power plants. But this car shows that a low kerb weight is the key to a good road performance.
no transmission? really? i know that an electric motor has evil toruque right from 0rpm so no need to be revved up like an engine does in order to build enough power to start the car, but does the electric motor have unlimited revolution speed? can you go all the way to its top speed in, say 1st gear only?
Electric motors produce their maximum torque throughout their ENTIRE rev range. So yeah. No gears potentially, because they're always producing their max torque.
The Earth won't fuckin explode cuz of global warming, It'll disinigrate the atmosphere leaving no protection for us so the sun will burn us to a crisp =)
0 to 60 mph in 3 sec, and he wasn't really trying, and with no drama, shit. Toshiba (I think) has developed a lithium ion car battery that can be charge from flat to 80-90% in a couple of minutes, and lasts the life of the car. I think after 10 years, it will still hold 90+% of its charge. Battery tech will keep progressing as long as there is a potential market.
Gm lost billions of dollars. They paved the way for everyone else No.limitationslimitations one would pay 100k for something that had so manylimitations at the time also gas was something like $1.20 at the time. Electric cars are comming into their Time. Buy them support the fledgling innovators like wright
cool car and great BUT as long as oil is still here No electric car. MANKIND IS STUPID AND is BUILDING A HOLE FOR HIMSELF. WE RE ONLY GOOD AT PLAYING WAR KILLING AND POLLUTING THE PLANET AND THAT IS how IT IS GOING TO BE FOR THE next 100 or so years.
one reason the car is not produced for our use, PROFIT LOSS!!!, can we buy electricity by the units per recharge session? NO, till the market is set in a cost per use bias, this will never come to work. All about profit , not the enviorment...sad , how many more years must the earth endur this bullshit cost bias crap.
Indeed. However, an electric car could be charged from your own wind and solar generators installed in your own home as well. Industry does not want this. They want your money to keep flowing to them. Electric cars make it nearly impossible for a cost per use bias to be set due to all sorts of energy sources to get electricity and all sorts of competition that would result. Big business cringes at the thought of the electric car.
Hey guys here in British Columbia we had a premier(Glen Clark) who believed in electric cars(He also believed in fast ferries-they lost $450 million!) and he paid a local kid here $100000 of BC Hydro's money for an electric car made from a Japenese 1/4 ton loaded with lead acid batteries and an electric motor under the hood. Sure it was quiet and could it move!! but it was absolutely useless as an economic car!!
Let me guess. It used unique one-off components. This makes anything expensive.
Today, a conversion that does 0-60 mph in 7 seconds, tops 120 mph, and does 100 miles range per charge on AGM lead acid batteries will cost $7-10k for components, which are virtually hand-made. With proper charging algorithm and thermal management to extend life, battery cost is only ~$.04-.09/mile, no range penalty in winter.
www.austinev.org
Hundreds of economical electric cars in U.S. and Canada listed.
if we can perfect orgone technology and can get joe cells to run predictably and stable, we can forgo these forms of fuel. we just need more willing and open minds.
I do not understand this, It is not an electric car it is a british made Ariel Atom it has a 1,998cc Honda v-tec engine. it is not made by MG. check out this link
You are correct, this IS an Ariel Atom, except instead of the Honda engine, Wrightspeed has installed an Electric motor/drive system with advanced Lithium batteries. The motor/controller/battery technology was designed by a company called AC Propulsion. The new electric Tesla Roadster also uses much of the same technology with similar performance at a similar price. The Tesla has a body designed by Lotus, and final assembly is at the Lotus factory in England.
theres a hydrogen car GM made not in production... it has a hydrogen reactor and fuel cell no BATTERIES. the car alone can power a small neighborhood. and it run off water.. thats right the reactor on board makes hydrogen from water. again this is different as theres no batteries a reactor and a fuel cell and a water tank...
It takes energy to produce that hydrogen from water. Usually, electricity.
Well to wheels, a battery electric car is 3-4 times more efficient than a fuel cell electric one.
Components for fuel cell cars in mass production would be astronomically more expensive than components for electric cars. In volume, fuel cell stacks are estimated to cost over $300 per peak horsepower. Then you have to include the storage tanks, compressors, motor, controller, and other components.
Most GM hydrogen prototypes had high pressure H2 tanks, one used an onboard "reformer" to get H2 from petrol. NONE made H2 from a water reactor! Electrolyzer/fuelcell efficiency is 30% vs 85% for battery/charger. All GM hydrogen cars had batteries for extra power.
The GM Volt is battery powered, with a small "range extender" generator for long trips. The generator could be replaced with a H2 fuel cell, but would still be powered mainly by plug-in electricity at less than 1/4 the cost of H2!
Electric cars are a neat hobby. Nothing more. As for the crazy environmentalist nuts perpetuate most of this propaganda, just because there isn't a tailpipe out the back of your battery doesn't mean that there isn't a smokestack somewhere else. Again I say the future is in biodiesel. Semi's, SUV's, and sub compacts can all share the same pump and not be limited to "miles per charge".
Even getting its electricity from a coal power plant, an electric car is quite a bit cleaner than a gasoline car, both in greenhouse gases and smog-forming emissions.
I also see biodiesel as part of the solution, a major one at that. But electric works very well, been viable for years.
As for GM's repeated lies, they've been debunked:
To get my link to work, take the empty space out between "ev-list-" and "archive".
GM only sold few hundred EV1s because they refused to make more than that. EV1s were hardly even advertised, few Californians heard or knew of them, let alone America as a whole.
GM refused to even sell them, only leased them, when most were seeking to buy. GM ignored thousands with cash on hand. Complained they only got 50 willing 'buyers' after weeding out all who didn't have an engineering background, didn't make $100k+ income, didn't have a home in the right city, were EV hobbyists or enthusiasts, and didn't have perfect credit.
GM only made the cars available at two dealerships, who actively discouraged people from trying to 'buy' the cars. Two dealerships only is intentionally preventing commercial viability. GM complains about no one making replacement parts, but it isn't practical to make spare parts for a few hundred cars. What do you expect the parts makers to do? GM claims to regret crushing the cars, but ignored thousands of letters urging the cars not to be crushed.
GM charged lessees thousands for minor scratches, before crushing the cars. $500 million of the $1 billion spent in 'development costs' was spent lobbying politicians to kill the EV mandate and spent on an anti-EV ad campaign. All but a few of the cars were crushed, despite lessees willing to waive all liability and offering over the residual value of the cars.
With all this in mind, it is GM who is being dishonest, not the film.
GM took actions that would cause any product they 'sell' to fail. How would Hummers or Corvettes 'sell' if they were only leased, only a few hundred made, only available at 2 dealerships in the entire U.S., rarely advertised, had prospective buyers weeded out based on rigid criteria, and had multi-million dollar ad campaigns and politicians against them?
GM might complain there wasn't a market for EVs, but would be wrong. "The Current and Future Market for Electric Vehicles", a study presented to the Electric Transportation Coalition, found market in California alone was 12-18% of new car buyers, with 95% confidence interval. At least 150,000 electric cars a year, in California alone. Was with potential buyers acknowledging an 80 mile range limitation with reduced range in winter, ~$30k price tag, slightly reduced acceleration compared to gas.
When study was done, NiMH EV1 did 140-160 miles range, performed better than most gas cars, would've been ~$30k in mass production. Solectria Force NiMH: 180-200 miles range, Solectria Sunrise: 350 miles range, RAV4 EV: 120 miles range. NiMH: no range loss in cold. Range/battery was there. But no one mass produced the cars to make them affordable. Small businesses who wanted to mass produce EVs didn't have economies of scale. Large businesses with economies of scale refused to mass produce EVs.
If you're so easily swayed by propaganda to believe GM's dishonest statements, more power to you. I suppose some enjoy pissing their hard-earned money away on gasoline and repairs just to get around, when the technology for cheaper solutions that can get the job done just as well or better does in fact exist today and has existed for nearly a decade.
now i do prefer electric cars but i do think they wont be showing up in the future as much as bio diesel but they are better. they are a bit more then hobby but probly wont end up being anything like the gas cars now.
ZZZzzz... Thanks, finally you made my point for me .02 cents for something that wont get me anywhere vs .14 cents for something that can take me everywhere with the AC running. The limitations involved with electric cars render them finite. My car has been far more reliable than any golf cart I own(ed). Batteries fail, electric motors burn up. Neither are cheap nor fail proof.
One of your points was that Evs wouldn't be cheaper to run, which was false. They are. EFVs can have AC, it is not a large load relative to that needed to maintain cruising speed, won't impact range noticably.
The limitations of electric cars aren't technological. A car car wouldn't be very practical with no gas stations available. We can build quick charge stations likewise.
Electric motors last over 500k miles, no repairs. Batteries last long enough to make electric cheaper than gasoline.
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The electric car killed the electric car idiot. Do you think this thing, that only goes a measly 170 miles per charge if that, could replace the family SEDAN? Yeah lets haul ass to replace the oil industry with BIG Battery! Yeah thats what I want to do! I want to Shell out ten grand for lithium batteries that wont haul 4 people. Electric is a big fat dead end. Go Biodiesel!
You idiot, the average commute is only 27 miles. You really think you would drive 170 miles per day? The new Tesla roadster only takes 3 hours to recharge and has a driving range of 250 miles. Its just like a cell phone. You can charge it overnight.
You forgot to mention the Telsa has 6800 lithium ion batteries only has two seats and also cost 100,000 dollars. Good luck getting 250 miles out of an eletric car with the ac/heater and radio on.
The car costs $100k because it is built in very low volume. Any car would cost $100k+ if produced in only a few hundred units.
Mass production of Li ion batteries for automotive volume would bring price to ~$250/kWh, according to AC Propulsion. Tesla uses a 55 kWh pack.
The Tesla probably needs 15kW of power to maintain 70 mph. Heater around 1 kW, AC around .5 kW, radio well under either. Impact on range would be well under 20 miles.
It cannot compete. The average American with a family cannot with a sound mind by a car like this . That $ 40'000 battery pack With a short Life not practical for now. Anti crap is right. Remember most of us do want The mid east to have to eat its own oil.
A family sedan powered by batteries with 300 mile range, 0-60 mph in 8 seconds could have been done for $20k since the late 90s/early 2000s if there were mass production.
*www.evuk.co.uk/EAVES_BEV_VS_FCV%20040703.pdf
*www.ipd.anl.gov/anlpubs/2000/05/36138.pdf
But the big automakers refuse to mass produce electric cars.
As for batteries, you spend far more on gasoline for internal combustion cars than you'd spend on batteries + electricity for EVs.
In your dreams. They cant even make and sell a double A nimh battery for less than a buck these days.
I've driven 760 miles in one day with my very large sedan. That was about 27 gallons of gas, today with three dollar a gallon gas that 81 dollars for every 760 mile "one day" trip on my car. If you want to NEVER leave your cities limits then you might consider pumping all of your money into an electric car. Eletric cars are a step backwards, not forwards.
With small batteries, price per kWh goes way up. In the 1990s, Energy Conversion Devices Chairman Robert Stemple quoted $150/kWh for large 85+ AH NiMH batteries in volume for 20,000 cars. An electric car that needed 200 Wh/mile would need a 60 kWh pack for 300 miles range. Team Fate at UC Davis quotes the cycle life of Ovonic NiMH batteries at 1,750 to 100% discharge. Do math on how many miles life that is. Chevron Texaco now has the patent, and sits on it.
Would there be quick chargers developed on the same scale of gas stations, electric cars would be viable for long range. Technology or cost isn't the issue. Politics is.
Mitsubishi's electric FTO prototype was driven 1,250 miles in a 24 hour period, thanks to a fast charger that could charge it in 20 minutes. This was in the year 2000.
Operating costs, thousands of Americans are driving conversions with $1,200-2,000 lead acid battery packs that last 20k miles or more(Some cases done 50k miles on a pack). EV needs ~$.005/mile for brakes and tires. ~$.02/mile for electricity. That's $.125/mile with 20k batt life and $2k batt cost. A gas car needs $.03/mile maintenance best case(eg. Honda Civic), but can go over $.08/mile. At $.03/mile maintenance, 27 mpg average for car fleet, $3/gallon, that's $.141/mile. Electric = cheaper.
I do like electric motors lots of potential there.(ex electric motor winder). The batteries seem to be a huge problem. You are positivly right the electric car killed its self it cannot yet compete in the FREE market place.
Gre marketplace? The market for electric vehicles, even with 80 miles range in the days of lead acid batteries, was over 150,000 cars per year in California alone. It was ignored. In automotive volume, the battery price would be cheap enough to save lots of money over gas cars, factoring periodic replacement. 300 miles range was done in the late 1990s(See Solectria Sunrise).
This is great. A tip for the camera man, next time plug in an XLR connected microphone and drop it at your feet out of the wind, then we'd get good audio of the hum of the motors, but not the mass distortion out of the wind. Awesome technology, its there for us but supressed by Big Oil, Government and Big Auto. Everyone should watch "Who Killed The Electric Car."
Calm down, ignorant fool, the sound quality doesn't really matter when you consider the impact of such technology, surely? It seemed to have a decent capacity too; all too often it seems that the cells run dry quite quickly. Also, something needs to be done to bring non-emission vehicles that can maintain decent speed and acceleration, whilst being able to carry some extra load.
These cars will definately be the future, just what a shame they have no sound. Very boring.
amanwithdreams 1 year ago
A great Ariel Atom!
stopjunkscience 2 years ago
lol wonder how many bugs went in his mouth
TroyRx 4 years ago
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may be fast but looks and sounds gay, sounds like a toy car... you just look like a nerd in that sorry 2 say it lol
elgranto7 4 years ago
I guess that you can buy the basic frame, and then pop in your own power-plant. One of these passed me on the roads of arizona in the desert. But the one I seen was powered by a gas engine. I took a few pics of it. I always wondered, They make motocycles, why not a single or double seater motorcycle with 4 wheels? Not everybody wants to pack the world in your car.
VicFetters 4 years ago
The cost of oil is close to $100 a barrel now, the electric vehicle (ev) never made more sense than now..and it doesn't pollute!
Get solar panels and you get FREE ENERGY..
AcePilot101 4 years ago
But I'll start saving now, may be 20 years from now I'll be able to buy one :) .
r44233sdhhy 4 years ago
If you can afford $30K, you can go to the lionev website. They got electric sedans, suvs, and trucks. Max tested range 456 miles.
tribluered 4 years ago
It's so funny how if you drive any green car: Electric, hydrogen, etc. People take it as such a novity.
r44233sdhhy 4 years ago
if battery can recharge quickly, please reserve one for me guys..!!!
;D
peggomusic 4 years ago
I love the electric sound and the idea if you can get electricity greenly, then you can have fun in a fast car, with out affecting the enviroment or anyone else.
r44233sdhhy 4 years ago
zero to sixty in three .. fun but not a family car.
This thing is a 4 wheel motorcycle.
JohnDeBunkTest 4 years ago
I want one!
r44233sdhhy 4 years ago
go to lionev website. get an electric car with max tested range 456 miles. cost $30K
tribluered 4 years ago
OK, now if we can only get these things mass produced, that'll send the price way down, but that's assuming the Bush administration doesn't try to sue these cars out of existence as they successfully did with the EV1 - download "Who killed the electric car" on a torrent to see exactly what i mean
gunifigoo 4 years ago
gunifigoo, go to lionev website. Cost about $30K for 100% electric sedan or suv or truck. max tested range 456 miles.
tribluered 4 years ago
i wonder how much money it costs to recharge the battery vs how much it costs to fill up a sports car
brownwasmyfriend 4 years ago
what happens if it rains and hails lol. Duct tape an umbrella to the sides to cover up XD but thats an awesome car though
saizni 4 years ago
"what if it gets stuck in traffic and runs out of battery or something"
Unlike a gas powered vehicle, the electric motor is not on when the vehicle is at rest. Engines on other hand must be running continuously since they cannot make torque at 0 rpm. Which means they cannot start up themselves when off. (reason it takes an electric motor to start a gas engine :)).
EETechs 4 years ago
is it really street legal to drive one everywhere? well not everywhere, but as an everyday car?
forkedroad 4 years ago
Yes it is.
Kriegger 4 years ago
Was that camera a kodak v803?
horsycos88 4 years ago
what if it gets stuck in traffic and runs out of battery or something
insanehassen1992 4 years ago
Same thing that would happen to a car that runs out of gas in traffic?
Kriegger 4 years ago
So who needs a heavy ferrari and porche if they can be beaten by an electric toy???
josakara 4 years ago
With Exxon making record profits and keeping battery technology under wraps for a while. At a mere 65 billion in earnings last year and with 27 billion of that going to taxes who would want electric cars to replace all of the inefficient fossil fuel cars we all drive now???
surburas 4 years ago
The auto industry designs concept cars that can solve the high gas demand problem, but refuse to market them. We need Plug-in hybrid electric vehicles. Loss of revenue can make large companies, even the auto industries; change their "business model". Sure the government can help with legislation to force them to put out new technology, but the true power is in our hands. Stop buying or leasing NEW gasoline powered cars for a year. Tell everyone to wait a year. See my vids.
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harrypotterfreak1293 4 years ago
This is an ariel atom you idiot.
frontplayaDM5 4 years ago
Its not and Ariel Atom it is a Wrightspeed X1 using and electric motor. The chassis is made by Ariel UK, but sorry to piss on your bonfire it's a Wrightspeed X1
Ariel don't make electric powered cars they have Honda VTEC petrol engines you idiot. Do you know nothing retard?
Also the Tesla is a Lotus chassis......
DoctorEnzo 4 years ago
Wonder where they got the design from go to arielmotor . co . uk cant Americans design any good car themselves
DoctorEnzo 4 years ago
So fucking what Arial Atom, Caterham, Ultima or Radical are as fast or if not faster and far cheaper but this is not really a road car... put the engine in a SUV and 4 fat Americans it would not move... Also how Eco friendly are batteries????? Or the power stations that are used to charge them?????
DoctorEnzo 4 years ago
Where does most of the oil come from - and is that a really stable part of the world? EVs put the "fuel choice" into the hands of the countries who use them. We can use hydro, solar, wind, nuclear, or even coal. Power stations are a way to concentrate the generation - instead of having millions of chimney stacks driving along the roads through our neighbourhoods you have a few big ones away from where you live. And breathe easier. Or use hydro/solar/wind. :-)
lewisian 4 years ago
ecology for the win !!!
neoKolo 4 years ago
price ?
where to buy?
i am a reseller from germany
muebermuth 4 years ago
can electric cars have manual transmissions?
cwes7675 4 years ago
yeah it can but it'd be a pain ..its so quiet so ..you would haaave to watch the revvs see with haveing no transmtion it has less mooving parts so all you gotta replace one day is the brushes in the motor cheap!
Timmys2007 4 years ago
Yes they could have, tesla roadster has 2.
With the torque that an electric motor gives you. You could add even more transmissions and make more milage!
Even this tech. Isnt 100 Percent yet. Id like to see the tesla roadster with CVT transmission. and Cheaper LI-ION battery's. WHy is it expensive ? battery.. that will go down if everybody is going to buy such battery's. And tech goes up. So dont worry this is the future.
Dilekz 4 years ago
no, thats bad! I dont want an electric car if I cant shift between 5-6 gears! no fun in 2 gears!
cwes7675 4 years ago
The electricity for these cars still has to be produced by power plants. But this car shows that a low kerb weight is the key to a good road performance.
9iide 5 years ago
no transmission? really? i know that an electric motor has evil toruque right from 0rpm so no need to be revved up like an engine does in order to build enough power to start the car, but does the electric motor have unlimited revolution speed? can you go all the way to its top speed in, say 1st gear only?
furionese 5 years ago
its only got 1 gear so yes it can
Timmys2007 4 years ago
Electric motors produce their maximum torque throughout their ENTIRE rev range. So yeah. No gears potentially, because they're always producing their max torque.
phatvortex 4 years ago
Love the acceleration and speed.
Hate the open cockpit design.
ceriman 5 years ago
its needed too ceep the weight down...
sparks444 4 years ago
Look at this beast! What an acceleration! I'm impressed!
drakasx 5 years ago
isn't it an ariel atom? a conventional super charged petrol engined car. Honda civic type R engine to be precise.
hotbovril 5 years ago
The Wrightspeed X1 is an Ariel Atom but with an electric motor instead of a gas engine.
mulad 5 years ago
I want that tranny!
JamJells 5 years ago
It doesn't have a transmission. Nothing with more than one gear ratio at any rate. Electric motors don't need them.
mulad 5 years ago
The Earth won't fuckin explode cuz of global warming, It'll disinigrate the atmosphere leaving no protection for us so the sun will burn us to a crisp =)
209G 5 years ago
the car sounds horrible
bubbaUK 5 years ago
that's the sound of the wind in the camera's microphone silly
omegaMuu 5 years ago
0 to 60 mph in 3 sec, and he wasn't really trying, and with no drama, shit. Toshiba (I think) has developed a lithium ion car battery that can be charge from flat to 80-90% in a couple of minutes, and lasts the life of the car. I think after 10 years, it will still hold 90+% of its charge. Battery tech will keep progressing as long as there is a potential market.
EnigmaNZ 5 years ago
no one notices that globol warming is happening and when they do notice it will be to late and the earth will explode we need electric cars
redkiller777 5 years ago
Last time i checked this car is an ariel atom that uses a civic's internal combustion engine
dizen02 5 years ago
Gm lost billions of dollars. They paved the way for everyone else No.limitationslimitations one would pay 100k for something that had so manylimitations at the time also gas was something like $1.20 at the time. Electric cars are comming into their Time. Buy them support the fledgling innovators like wright
gregoryw1234 5 years ago
cool car and great BUT as long as oil is still here No electric car. MANKIND IS STUPID AND is BUILDING A HOLE FOR HIMSELF. WE RE ONLY GOOD AT PLAYING WAR KILLING AND POLLUTING THE PLANET AND THAT IS how IT IS GOING TO BE FOR THE next 100 or so years.
theoneagain 5 years ago
amen.
sparks444 4 years ago
Check out Tesla Motors.
M3anbone 5 years ago
thats so cool it sounds like a giant RC car. i saw another vid of this electric ver. beating all sorts of euro sports cars on the quarter mile
BoobyMcDoogle 5 years ago
no shit , my reason to post, i dont want to make em richer, stupid fooker , read before you post, between the lines too
freshmeatz 5 years ago
Dude, I was agreeing with you.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
one reason the car is not produced for our use, PROFIT LOSS!!!, can we buy electricity by the units per recharge session? NO, till the market is set in a cost per use bias, this will never come to work. All about profit , not the enviorment...sad , how many more years must the earth endur this bullshit cost bias crap.
freshmeatz 5 years ago
Indeed. However, an electric car could be charged from your own wind and solar generators installed in your own home as well. Industry does not want this. They want your money to keep flowing to them. Electric cars make it nearly impossible for a cost per use bias to be set due to all sorts of energy sources to get electricity and all sorts of competition that would result. Big business cringes at the thought of the electric car.
Fuck profits. There are more important things.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
Hey guys here in British Columbia we had a premier(Glen Clark) who believed in electric cars(He also believed in fast ferries-they lost $450 million!) and he paid a local kid here $100000 of BC Hydro's money for an electric car made from a Japenese 1/4 ton loaded with lead acid batteries and an electric motor under the hood. Sure it was quiet and could it move!! but it was absolutely useless as an economic car!!
SCOTSDOC 5 years ago
Let me guess. It used unique one-off components. This makes anything expensive.
Today, a conversion that does 0-60 mph in 7 seconds, tops 120 mph, and does 100 miles range per charge on AGM lead acid batteries will cost $7-10k for components, which are virtually hand-made. With proper charging algorithm and thermal management to extend life, battery cost is only ~$.04-.09/mile, no range penalty in winter.
www.austinev.org
Hundreds of economical electric cars in U.S. and Canada listed.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
if we can perfect orgone technology and can get joe cells to run predictably and stable, we can forgo these forms of fuel. we just need more willing and open minds.
stonedfenix 5 years ago
I do not understand this, It is not an electric car it is a british made Ariel Atom it has a 1,998cc Honda v-tec engine. it is not made by MG. check out this link
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=105504
haydn567 5 years ago
it is very similar looking, but this is the x1. check out some other videos under X1 electric
stonedfenix 5 years ago
You are correct, this IS an Ariel Atom, except instead of the Honda engine, Wrightspeed has installed an Electric motor/drive system with advanced Lithium batteries. The motor/controller/battery technology was designed by a company called AC Propulsion. The new electric Tesla Roadster also uses much of the same technology with similar performance at a similar price. The Tesla has a body designed by Lotus, and final assembly is at the Lotus factory in England.
ManRayDali 5 years ago
The Wrightspeed X1 is based on the Ariel Atom. However instead of a normal engine he fully electrified the car.
The driver is btw Mr. Wright - the guy who made the car.
robohofo 5 years ago
theres a hydrogen car GM made not in production... it has a hydrogen reactor and fuel cell no BATTERIES. the car alone can power a small neighborhood. and it run off water.. thats right the reactor on board makes hydrogen from water. again this is different as theres no batteries a reactor and a fuel cell and a water tank...
infoseekr 5 years ago
It takes energy to produce that hydrogen from water. Usually, electricity.
Well to wheels, a battery electric car is 3-4 times more efficient than a fuel cell electric one.
Components for fuel cell cars in mass production would be astronomically more expensive than components for electric cars. In volume, fuel cell stacks are estimated to cost over $300 per peak horsepower. Then you have to include the storage tanks, compressors, motor, controller, and other components.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
Most GM hydrogen prototypes had high pressure H2 tanks, one used an onboard "reformer" to get H2 from petrol. NONE made H2 from a water reactor! Electrolyzer/fuelcell efficiency is 30% vs 85% for battery/charger. All GM hydrogen cars had batteries for extra power.
The GM Volt is battery powered, with a small "range extender" generator for long trips. The generator could be replaced with a H2 fuel cell, but would still be powered mainly by plug-in electricity at less than 1/4 the cost of H2!
ceriman 5 years ago
Electric cars are a neat hobby. Nothing more. As for the crazy environmentalist nuts perpetuate most of this propaganda, just because there isn't a tailpipe out the back of your battery doesn't mean that there isn't a smokestack somewhere else. Again I say the future is in biodiesel. Semi's, SUV's, and sub compacts can all share the same pump and not be limited to "miles per charge".
http://www.gm.com/company/onlygm/fastlane_Blog.html
anticrap2000 5 years ago
Even getting its electricity from a coal power plant, an electric car is quite a bit cleaner than a gasoline car, both in greenhouse gases and smog-forming emissions.
I also see biodiesel as part of the solution, a major one at that. But electric works very well, been viable for years.
As for GM's repeated lies, they've been debunked:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/ev-list-archive/message/69421
terrorist420x 5 years ago
To get my link to work, take the empty space out between "ev-list-" and "archive".
GM only sold few hundred EV1s because they refused to make more than that. EV1s were hardly even advertised, few Californians heard or knew of them, let alone America as a whole.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
GM refused to even sell them, only leased them, when most were seeking to buy. GM ignored thousands with cash on hand. Complained they only got 50 willing 'buyers' after weeding out all who didn't have an engineering background, didn't make $100k+ income, didn't have a home in the right city, were EV hobbyists or enthusiasts, and didn't have perfect credit.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
GM only made the cars available at two dealerships, who actively discouraged people from trying to 'buy' the cars. Two dealerships only is intentionally preventing commercial viability. GM complains about no one making replacement parts, but it isn't practical to make spare parts for a few hundred cars. What do you expect the parts makers to do? GM claims to regret crushing the cars, but ignored thousands of letters urging the cars not to be crushed.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
GM charged lessees thousands for minor scratches, before crushing the cars. $500 million of the $1 billion spent in 'development costs' was spent lobbying politicians to kill the EV mandate and spent on an anti-EV ad campaign. All but a few of the cars were crushed, despite lessees willing to waive all liability and offering over the residual value of the cars.
With all this in mind, it is GM who is being dishonest, not the film.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
GM took actions that would cause any product they 'sell' to fail. How would Hummers or Corvettes 'sell' if they were only leased, only a few hundred made, only available at 2 dealerships in the entire U.S., rarely advertised, had prospective buyers weeded out based on rigid criteria, and had multi-million dollar ad campaigns and politicians against them?
terrorist420x 5 years ago
GM might complain there wasn't a market for EVs, but would be wrong. "The Current and Future Market for Electric Vehicles", a study presented to the Electric Transportation Coalition, found market in California alone was 12-18% of new car buyers, with 95% confidence interval. At least 150,000 electric cars a year, in California alone. Was with potential buyers acknowledging an 80 mile range limitation with reduced range in winter, ~$30k price tag, slightly reduced acceleration compared to gas.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
When study was done, NiMH EV1 did 140-160 miles range, performed better than most gas cars, would've been ~$30k in mass production. Solectria Force NiMH: 180-200 miles range, Solectria Sunrise: 350 miles range, RAV4 EV: 120 miles range. NiMH: no range loss in cold. Range/battery was there. But no one mass produced the cars to make them affordable. Small businesses who wanted to mass produce EVs didn't have economies of scale. Large businesses with economies of scale refused to mass produce EVs.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
If you're so easily swayed by propaganda to believe GM's dishonest statements, more power to you. I suppose some enjoy pissing their hard-earned money away on gasoline and repairs just to get around, when the technology for cheaper solutions that can get the job done just as well or better does in fact exist today and has existed for nearly a decade.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
now i do prefer electric cars but i do think they wont be showing up in the future as much as bio diesel but they are better. they are a bit more then hobby but probly wont end up being anything like the gas cars now.
ilija00 5 years ago
ZZZzzz... Thanks, finally you made my point for me .02 cents for something that wont get me anywhere vs .14 cents for something that can take me everywhere with the AC running. The limitations involved with electric cars render them finite. My car has been far more reliable than any golf cart I own(ed). Batteries fail, electric motors burn up. Neither are cheap nor fail proof.
anticrap2000 5 years ago
One of your points was that Evs wouldn't be cheaper to run, which was false. They are. EFVs can have AC, it is not a large load relative to that needed to maintain cruising speed, won't impact range noticably.
The limitations of electric cars aren't technological. A car car wouldn't be very practical with no gas stations available. We can build quick charge stations likewise.
Electric motors last over 500k miles, no repairs. Batteries last long enough to make electric cheaper than gasoline.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
rofl, u know the electric cars did have air conditioning. and yes, if u have a "golf cart" batteries will fail.
bjhorton2005 5 years ago
""""Big Oil, Government and Big Auto. Everyone should watch "Who Killed The Electric Car."""""
The electric car killed the electric car idiot. Do you think this thing, that only goes a measly 170 miles per charge if that, could replace the family SEDAN? Yeah lets haul ass to replace the oil industry with BIG Battery! Yeah thats what I want to do! I want to Shell out ten grand for lithium batteries that wont haul 4 people. Electric is a big fat dead end. Go Biodiesel!
anticrap2000 5 years ago
You idiot, the average commute is only 27 miles. You really think you would drive 170 miles per day? The new Tesla roadster only takes 3 hours to recharge and has a driving range of 250 miles. Its just like a cell phone. You can charge it overnight.
sarsattacks 5 years ago
You forgot to mention the Telsa has 6800 lithium ion batteries only has two seats and also cost 100,000 dollars. Good luck getting 250 miles out of an eletric car with the ac/heater and radio on.
anticrap2000 5 years ago
The car costs $100k because it is built in very low volume. Any car would cost $100k+ if produced in only a few hundred units.
Mass production of Li ion batteries for automotive volume would bring price to ~$250/kWh, according to AC Propulsion. Tesla uses a 55 kWh pack.
The Tesla probably needs 15kW of power to maintain 70 mph. Heater around 1 kW, AC around .5 kW, radio well under either. Impact on range would be well under 20 miles.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
It cannot compete. The average American with a family cannot with a sound mind by a car like this . That $ 40'000 battery pack With a short Life not practical for now. Anti crap is right. Remember most of us do want The mid east to have to eat its own oil.
gregoryw1234 5 years ago
A family sedan powered by batteries with 300 mile range, 0-60 mph in 8 seconds could have been done for $20k since the late 90s/early 2000s if there were mass production.
*www.evuk.co.uk/EAVES_BEV_VS_FCV%20040703.pdf
*www.ipd.anl.gov/anlpubs/2000/05/36138.pdf
But the big automakers refuse to mass produce electric cars.
As for batteries, you spend far more on gasoline for internal combustion cars than you'd spend on batteries + electricity for EVs.
Biodiesel also has its uses for cars too.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
In your dreams. They cant even make and sell a double A nimh battery for less than a buck these days.
I've driven 760 miles in one day with my very large sedan. That was about 27 gallons of gas, today with three dollar a gallon gas that 81 dollars for every 760 mile "one day" trip on my car. If you want to NEVER leave your cities limits then you might consider pumping all of your money into an electric car. Eletric cars are a step backwards, not forwards.
anticrap2000 5 years ago
With small batteries, price per kWh goes way up. In the 1990s, Energy Conversion Devices Chairman Robert Stemple quoted $150/kWh for large 85+ AH NiMH batteries in volume for 20,000 cars. An electric car that needed 200 Wh/mile would need a 60 kWh pack for 300 miles range. Team Fate at UC Davis quotes the cycle life of Ovonic NiMH batteries at 1,750 to 100% discharge. Do math on how many miles life that is. Chevron Texaco now has the patent, and sits on it.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
Would there be quick chargers developed on the same scale of gas stations, electric cars would be viable for long range. Technology or cost isn't the issue. Politics is.
Mitsubishi's electric FTO prototype was driven 1,250 miles in a 24 hour period, thanks to a fast charger that could charge it in 20 minutes. This was in the year 2000.
*http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/SC0002/S00017.htm
Aerovironment developed fast chargers in the 90s that could charge in EV in 15-30 minutes.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
Operating costs, thousands of Americans are driving conversions with $1,200-2,000 lead acid battery packs that last 20k miles or more(Some cases done 50k miles on a pack). EV needs ~$.005/mile for brakes and tires. ~$.02/mile for electricity. That's $.125/mile with 20k batt life and $2k batt cost. A gas car needs $.03/mile maintenance best case(eg. Honda Civic), but can go over $.08/mile. At $.03/mile maintenance, 27 mpg average for car fleet, $3/gallon, that's $.141/mile. Electric = cheaper.
terrorist420x 5 years ago
I do like electric motors lots of potential there.(ex electric motor winder). The batteries seem to be a huge problem. You are positivly right the electric car killed its self it cannot yet compete in the FREE market place.
gregoryw1234 5 years ago
Gre marketplace? The market for electric vehicles, even with 80 miles range in the days of lead acid batteries, was over 150,000 cars per year in California alone. It was ignored. In automotive volume, the battery price would be cheap enough to save lots of money over gas cars, factoring periodic replacement. 300 miles range was done in the late 1990s(See Solectria Sunrise).
terrorist420x 5 years ago
Give the guy a break...
Handheld camera - you won't be able to see anything if you put the camera down where it won't get hit by wind noise.
...and I usually don't go around with XLR-to-stereo mini phone plugs in my pocket.
See the elecric car movie if you want to know why this isn't in mass production.
He did capture the most important sound bite - 0 to 60 in 3 seconds!
Canadarago 5 years ago
The video that the OPEC Nations dont want you to see! lol
mh3w 5 years ago
This is great. A tip for the camera man, next time plug in an XLR connected microphone and drop it at your feet out of the wind, then we'd get good audio of the hum of the motors, but not the mass distortion out of the wind. Awesome technology, its there for us but supressed by Big Oil, Government and Big Auto. Everyone should watch "Who Killed The Electric Car."
edmond4 5 years ago
somebody mass produce this sucker for the rest of us to buy!
kentj1 5 years ago
170 miles per gallon. Fantabulous!
hydrogeneconomy 5 years ago
where can I get one of these bad boys??
jimet409 5 years ago
put the god dam camra in the car dumass, or cover uo the mic!
yuppies are fking stupid
mrexon 5 years ago
Calm down, ignorant fool, the sound quality doesn't really matter when you consider the impact of such technology, surely? It seemed to have a decent capacity too; all too often it seems that the cells run dry quite quickly. Also, something needs to be done to bring non-emission vehicles that can maintain decent speed and acceleration, whilst being able to carry some extra load.
trojjer 5 years ago
Oh, and I think the fact that we could hear the wind noise without any engine noise whatsoever, was amazing.
trojjer 5 years ago
Cool Car! I would defently fork over the money for one!
rogem002 5 years ago