shut the fuck up you don't know shit about the fucking enviornment or climate. My fucking grandfather is a 79 year old climatologist and he quit the IPCC after all the bullshit. Google CLIMATEGATE. He knows the truth. We are not the cause, ok? Its sun spots. CO2 is a product of temperature change, dumbass, not the other way round. Your just giving into the social norm and main stream media. Do your own research. Relax and go find a job, will ya. Stop spreading lies.
As aware as I am about our climate change problem, I must say this particular video is just a bit worthless. In order to teach/inform the public, we must pay attention to how our videos are perceived.
@DAILEYericCaryUSA Warmer is not better if you already live in a tropical or sub-tropical climate (which most of the world population do) and not great for those farmers who currently grow temperate adjusted crops in temperate zones as their crops will struggle with less water and extreme temps. See also Increased heat stress in humans and other mammals (Sherwood 2010) and Decline in global phytoplankton (Boyce 2010).
Global warming 'confirmed' by independent study See BBC news 21/10/2011 The Berkeley Earth Project has used new methods and some new data, but finds the same warming trend seen by groups such as the UK Met Office and Nasa.
The project received funds from sources that back organisations lobbying against action on climate change.
The things is before global warming occured naturally, now however its going so fast that many speices of animals can't adapt quickly enough and have died....
@LastCynicStanding According to the acknowledgments listed in the 2003 paper, it was funded by the American Petroleum Institute. Baliunas is listed as being affiliated with nine organizations that have received funding from ExxonMobil. She certianly has oily hands.
To see the truth that is driving these carboneer monkeys more crazy than they are
What the carboneers do not want you to know
Search "Glaciers growing in Spain" "12 More Glaciers that Have Not Heard The Newss About Global Warming" "Our Glaciers Are Growing Not Melting: More Falsehoods From Al Gore" "Perito Moreno The Politically Incorrect Glacier"
@DaveGibbagglers look up the WGMS data yourself. You confuse these issues by cherry picking individual glaciers or by ignoring long term trends. The long term trends being that globally glaciers are losing mass as temps rise. Over the period 1946–2005, the WGMS have monitored 228 glaciers for mass data and over a thousand for length data, the vast majority of glaciers monitored showed mass loss. Less than 5% showed growth in mass. Try peer reviewed sceince not fox news and blogs.
@checkyoursources I am going to say this again in the hopes it sinks in.
These so called shrinking glaciers are a result of the amount of precipitation. If the temperature of the mass of the Earths atmosphere increases then humidity increases hence the glaciers grow. You seriously have things backwards. Climatologists make this mistake. Glaciologists make this mistake. Garbage men make this mistake.
Astrophysicists do not make this mistake. You should check your sources.
@LastCynicStanding By your logic in the ice age there were no glaciers! please name a peer reviewed paper to back your view that "glaciers grow when the planet gets warmer". Precipitation has a minimal and localised effect when compared to the effects of temperture p.s. The temp of the earth has risen since the 1970's and the glaciers have shrunk, I suggest you look up the WGMS data for yourself. Next you will be sayig that spring flowers appearing earlier each year are in on the AGW "scam"?!
@checkyoursources Glaciers are growing around the globe which seems to send the global warming taliban into a jihad frenzy, you at least acknowledge the truth of the growing glaciers. Growing glaciers around the globe is great and happy news to combat the lies and fear & gloom put forth by the global warming taliban
@DaveGibbagglers According to the World glacier monitoring service (WGMS) you are incorrect. If you gave a source that would be nice otherwise you could be telling fibs or are just mistaken.
@DaveGibbagglers Braithwaite, R.J. 2002. Glacier mass balance: the first 50 years of international monitoring. Progr. Phys. Geogr., 26 (1), 76-95 AND Dyurgerov, M.B. 2002. Glacier mass balance and regime: data of measurements and analysis. Boulder, CO, University of Colorado, Institute of Arctic and Alpine Research. INSTAAR Occasional Paper 55. and Ohmura, A. 2006. Changes in mountain glaciers and ice caps during the 20th century. Ann. Glaciol., 43, 361-368. all say you are wrong too.
@checkyoursources Awesome news on the growing glaciers around the globe. Be happy instead of this global warming taliban fear, doom and gloom that is causing you all to be sick physically and mentally.
@checkyoursources Ahh the old~ 'Proof by verbosity', sometimes colloquially referred to as argumentum verbosium - a rhetorical technique that tries to persuade by overwhelming those considering an argument with such a volume of material that the argument sounds plausible, superficially appears to be well-researched, and it is so laborious to untangle and check supporting facts that the argument might be allowed to slide by unchallenged."
So true that they are over saturated with information and if they would just take the time to read more than the conclusions that existed before the study they might understand. They accuse the scientists of accepting huge grants yet the scientists that do not support the GW scam are all driving KIAs and living in apartments. Mr Mann on the other hand has received over 2 Million in grants this year alone. He drives a luxury car and lives in a huge house.
@DaveGibbagglers Global warming 'confirmed' by independent study See BBC news 21/10/2011 The Berkeley Earth Project has used new methods and some new data, but finds the same warming trend seen by groups such as the UK Met Office and Nasa.
The project received funds from sources that back organisations lobbying against action on climate change.
@DaveGibbagglers While there are isolated cases of growing glaciers, the overwhelming trend in glaciers worldwide is retreat. In fact, the global melt rate has been accelerating since the mid-1970s. See: World Glacier Monitoring Service (WGMS) data.
@LastCynicStanding ICSU (WDS), IUGG (IACS), UNEP, UNESCO, WMO all support and work with the WGMS so calling them all liars is dishonest and frankly illogical. The fact is that any data I put forward you will either claim is wrong because it doesn't feed your confirmation bias or because you claim they are all liars?!
@checkyoursources I know you are talking about Cogley from Trent, who else could it be? This man is not an astrophysicist therefore he does not collect the observational data. The problem with listening to unqualified people is that they do not give you the whole picture. If he was perhaps more schooled then he would know that glaciers grow as the mass of the atmosphere rises.
So if there is any humour in this conversation it is that your whole argument is based on misinterpretation.
@LastCynicStanding Please feel free to name a peer reviewed paper that backs your view that "high temps causes glacier increase". As stated and explained in this paper: Norwegian mountain glaciers in the past, present and future Atle Nesje et al 9 February 2007 Precipitation has a minimal and localised effect when compared to temperature hence glacier mass worldwide has fallen since the 1970's. There are isolated cases of glacier growth but these a few and far between.
@checkyoursources Look it up yourself. It is not my job to educate you. You are looking at papers that are written and reviewed by the same people. This is not peer reviewed. Just look at Dr. Mann's hockey stick that you are toting around. He omitted the data from the little ice age and the medieval warm period to make his graph and then he was the peer to review it. How could it be more obviously propaganda?
Also the IPCC's Mr. Mann is a physicist, not an astrophysicist.
@LastCynicStanding As stated you have yet to name even one peer reviewed paper that backs your views, very dishonest. p.s. this from an Astrophysicist from the Max Planck Institute fur Sonnensystemforschung: "we point out that solar
variability is unlikely to have been the dominant cause of the strong warming during the past three decades" Solanki et al 2004. Next you will be saying that James Hansen has no training in astrophysics!
@checkyoursources That paper does not include what warming it is talking about. It also directly contradicts itself when it says the sunspots are high in magnitude yet somehow they are not responsible for the climate.
Also do you really have to go back seven years to find an article that still tries to sell this? There is a miniscule reference to your theory in every years climate report you know?
@LastCynicStanding Here are some that agree with me: Erlykin 2009: "We deduce that the maximum recent increase in the mean surface temperature of the Earth which can be ascribed to solar activity is 14% of the observed global warming." Benestad 2009, Lockwood 2008, Lean 2008, Ammann 2007, Foukal 2006, Solanki 2004, Lean 1999 etc etc Now then... you have supplied.....none...nada....not a sausage to back your view!
@checkyoursources Your first source is not even a doctor. I will not waste any time double checking your BS list because I know you did not real all those articles in a day. I also know you just googled what you were trying to prove and obviously did not CHECK YOUR SOURCES.
Now if you are going to keep crying that I have not educated you yet then I will give you a name you should already have. Dr. Sallie Baliunas is simply studying the phenom with no extra agenda.
@LastCynicStanding You said: "Your first source is not even a doctor, I will not waste any time double checking your BS list ", correct, he is a visiting Professor at Durham Uni Dept of Physics. the co authors of Erlykin et al 2009 are both PhD's. The fact you dismissed: Benestad 2009, Lockwood 2008, Lean 2008, Ammann 2007, Foukal 2006, Solanki 2004, Lean 1999 in one go shows you have severe confimation bias.
@LastCynicStanding You mean Sallie Baliunas whose 2003 paper was funded by the American Petroleum Institute and the journal editor later admitted that the conclusions of the paper could not be supported by the evidence and that the journal should have requested appropriate revisions prior to publication. She also claimed in 2001 that no warming had occured in the last 50 years. In later statements Baliunas acknowledged the measured warming in the satellite and balloon records. next.
@checkyoursources It is a good thing Harvard does not share your slanderous attitude. The grant money received was all on the level and after the fact. You assume that the oil industry paid someone to ignore the dedication it takes to attain credentials far in excess of the top 10%. The money trail shows that they found her and Soon due to their research and then offered funding to protect their interests.
@LastCynicStanding The oil industry offered their grant to Baliunus, who didn't even admit the temperatures had warmed until the last few years! I say again on her 2003 paper: "the journal publsher later admitted that the conclusions of the paper could not be supported by the evidence provided by Baliunus and Soon and three editors of Climate Research resigned in protest over its publication. She has multiple links to the oil industry/ is a member of the Heartland institute, need I say more?
@checkyoursources I hope you never say anything again. The paper trail is clear and just how I described. What people should notice is what that these sober sounding scientists that are not on your bandwagon do but what they do not do.
They do not slander the opposition. Why do you feel the need to use derogatory terms such as deniers or flat earthers? Greenpeace never released the source behind their over $1M in dirty money accusation. It was really less then 1/4 that amount.
@LastCynicStanding You said: "do not slander the opposition" May I bring your attention to your hypocrisy from your earlier comment: "Your first source is not even a doctor, I will not waste any time double checking your BS list ".
James Hansen is your champion? The guy that was arrested during the mountain top demonstrations? The guy that accuses NASA of falsifying their own data when it does not fit into his ideology?
That guy is more of a shill than Dr. Mann and again you need to CHECK YOUR SOURCES!
@LastCynicStanding James Hansen must be your champion because you are the one claiming that "only" astrophysics trained people have any understandinmg of climate change and James Hansen is most certainly from an astrophysics background! Still waiiting for one peer reviewed article that agrees with your views, this is very tiresome. Stop delaying with your ad hominems and give some evidence!
You quote on organization founded in '86 by the UN to find a way to promote the global tax as your source and your fucking name is checkyoursources????
1) Please feel free to name any scientific organisation that disagrees that long term global reduction in glacier volume is a fact.
2) Here are a few papers that show shrinking in glacier mass totals worldwide: Cogley J.G. (2009): Geodetic and direct mass-balance
measurements: comparison and joint analysis. Annals of Glaciology 50(50) 96-100 OR Greene et al (2005)Journal of Glaciology, Volume 51, Number 174, June 2005 , pp. 353-362(10) . Next.
Frankly your first statement makes me ignore any further input from you. You might think that slipping data such as the mass of certain glaciers off as irrefutable evidence that cow farts are killing the planet however it does not. If the mass of the atmosphere of the planet Earth was heating up due to cow farts as you say then the glaciers would grow.
Shrinking glaciers means that it is getting cooler and any astrophysicist knows that.
@LastCynicStanding You're ignoring me because you failed to actually read: Cogley J.G. (2009): Geodetic and direct mass-balance measurements: comparison and joint analysis. Annals of Glaciology 50(50) 96-100. Only a bad astrophysicist would suggest that shrinking glaciers mean its getting cooler!
2010 was the warmest year on record according to the WMO, but let me guess, you will acuse the entire organisation of thousands of scientists of lying in your next comment.
@LastCynicStanding "growth of certain glaciers"- certain glaciers, but most were shrinking. I ask again, overall were glaciers globally shrinking or gaining mass in the papers I quoted hmmm?
Try reading the papers in full before you dig a deeper hole and i make you look really silly.
@checkyoursources Your goal is to make people look silly? At least you take your alarmist BS as seriously as the rest of the Greenpeace trust fund babies.
Frankly the amount of times you tell me that I said things that I did not elude to how insane you are and I really have no interest in talking to a crazy person. I will tell you that I am obviously not ignoring you hence the reply. I assume you are referring to Cogley from Trent?
@LastCynicStanding Nothing I have stated here has been alarmist, it has been from peer reviewed scientific papers (you have yet to name one that backs your views) or from the likes of NASA, NOAA, the WGMS and the WMO. Please feel free to name one "alarmist comment you think I have made and while you are at it please name a peer reviewed paper that states that globally glaciers are gaining mass?
@LastCynicStanding 1) your comment is ad hominem and subjective. 2) Please indicate which paper I sugested is "alarmist" so that others seeing our comments can decide for themselves.
@checkyoursources Actually NOAA is one of the best places to end this pointless conversation. They have been recording the sea level rise since 1870. From now on you can go argue with the sea level about the theories this propaganda has polluted your mind with.
@checkyoursources Actually NOAA is one of the best places to end this pointless conversation. They have been recording the sea level rise since 1870. From now on you can go argue with the sea level about the theories this propaganda has polluted your mind with.
The global warming problem is a well thought out "CREATION". Co2 was "SELECTED" to be the culprate behind global warming because of it's invisible and ellusive characteristics. The detection Co2 is beyond your natural human capabilities therefore making individual accountability impossible. This newley created global warming religion will be used by the corporate overlords to manipulate and condemn the common people by regulating their everyday human activities.DisasterCapitalism
We used to call melting ice spring before insanity set in. Melting ice proves absolutely nothing other than what we already knew. Temps go up and down. Ice forms and melts. Change is what the climate does. Cause is something else entirely. 99% truth + 1% lie = lie.
no the cause of continuining global warming is right wing americans. They are the only reason REAL change is not being done to help stop the huge problem. I think it's a fair question of who I hate more, terrorists or right wing americans
That's about the more ignorant thing I have read all day. You might as well say that the blacks cause global warming. Also I might add there is no evidence to show that humans cause global climate change. In the last billion years the entire planet has been both covered with thousands of feet of ice and had global temperatures much warmer than we see today.
Now that was inappropriate. I am educated and a realist, I look at facts and make educated decisions to the best of my ability. The reason why there isn't a huge global movement to fix global warming is because we are not in full possession of the facts. Realistically knowing even basic energy density numbers of various fuels and power sources fossil fuels are almost off the charts in the energy available and the modern world is based completely on it. Also I am not GOP.
@SPYK3O Well then you're not educated nor a realist. What is real is every national science body in the world saying: man made global warming is real. So your claim that "there is no evidence to show that humans cause global climate change" is total garbage. Are you able to comprehend that?
The problem with global warming is that no one disputes the climate changes. The planet is getting warmer and the evidence is receding ice. The problem is there is almost no evidence to support that we are causing it and plenty of bad science and scandal surrounding it. So my stance (and most intelligent people for that matter) is we need to step back and survey the situation. Is there even a problem? NASA has recently invested a large interest in finding solutions to some answers
@SPYK3O By realist what are you claiming? That you somehow see reality in a 'real' way? For example Fox News seeing the 'real' truth? Forget all those scientists and their idiotic research of the world we live in, forget all their results from tried and tested models and 'real' world experimentation. The 'real' truth is something altogether different no? Please enlighten me with this strange reality you choose to dwell in. It sounds very intriguing.
Just I side note I like how you say "tried and tested models". Micrometeorology is by no means an exact science and we are just beginning to scratch the surface of macrometeorology. I can see where this is going and I can see you are a brainwashed, biased, idiot so this will probably be the last time I reply to any of your comments as nothing intelligent can come of it. If a god exists may it have mercy on your soul.
@SPYK3O The standard 'brainwashed' answer. You're correct that you don't need to reply, you've proven you're a complete inept retard. So what part of every national science board stating man made global warming is real brainwashed me? Hey maybe theres a scandal in every country! Surely right wing americans know better than scientists right? Hey I'm sure Glenn Beck or Bill O'rielly know better than those scrupulous scientists around the world with their hidden agenda and secret drug trafficking.
@SPYK3O If there is a God, you're going straight to hell mate. Endless respectable scientists have produced work and had people beaver away trying to find one thing that could possibly disprove it, and usually suceeding. That's your 'scandal' and so called 'bad science'. No theory can be proved 10% afaik but a huge number can 99%+.
But hey lets carry on polluting, since no ones making money off that, only Al Gore and the scientists are making the money huh? Not our friendly giant corporations.
@SPYK3O I stand by what I said earlier. I really hope you leave this planet soon. People like you are so fucking thick that you're just wasting oxygen. Go back to your 'real' scientists, who call the 1% the 'reality', since theres no point protecting the planet huh? or at least lets carry on polluting and look for a solution in the next 50 years. What's the point in trying to help the planet?
Well I can only tell you how it is, if you get angry with yourself over it so be it. Al Gore did make a billion dollars fear mongering global warming and presentations of false facts and skewed logic. It probably will be about 50 years before anything really changes. We will probably be burning gas in cars longer than that. I like how you assume I watch Fox news when in actuality I don't even have a television.
@SPYK3O There is more evidence of human caused climate change than evidence that the sun is on fire. You GOP fanatics are a waste of oxygen, please kill yourself. You people are the prime reason nothing is being done about this in the world. Every country bar America signed Kyoto, because America is the prime polluter.....people have just ignored the treaty.
The average Arctic sea ice volume for May 2010 was 19,000 cubic kilometers (4,600 cubic miles), the lowest May volume over the 1979 to 2010 period. May 2010 volume was 42% below the 1979 maximum, and 32% below the 1979 to 2009 May average.
@Scoforever , It's the same argument christians tell me when I tell them I don't believe in god. I suppose it's my opinion, no one is forcing you to believe it, but you are going to have to change your ways regardless of whether or not you like it. We have a finite amount of resources on this planet and more mouths to feed. So you don't have to believe in climate change, but you will have to live in a more "Conservative" way in regards to the way we humans consume and interact with the planet.
@Scoforever Who cares about being richer? I want to have a good clean life. I need very little as I don't live beyond my means. I would rather us have a clean environment for my kids to enjoy. Punish the polluters and reward those who seek out new technologies. What is wrong with that?
I would like to see a richer society as we can only have a good standard of living if we are rich. We can also afford to take care of our environment if we are rich.
By rich I mean that people have more goods and have more free time. Too achieve this wealth people need to be allowed to use resources freely. People also have to have their rights to life, liberty and property protected. Once that is done wealth will increase as voluntary actions benefit both sides otherwise they wouldn't happen.
@Scoforever ok. So who is going to protect your property and life? If it were left completely to voluntary actions you would only rely on the good in society, which of coarse is not all men. Rules and enforcement measures are put into place to protect people from predation. Do you suggest anarchy?
I do not suggest anarchy. I believe we need a minimal government that can be funded by taxes. As we transition to a free society we can move away from taxes and towards donating to government.
@Scoforever Can't argue with you there. I'm a firefighter here in Southern Cali, and I'm quite keen on the government receiving tax money. I wouldn't have a job otherwise. It would be nice to see tax money spent more wisely, although, it is a fantasy to think we will ever be free of it. I'm afraid we will just have to agree to disagree on certain things.
Do you honestly believe our leaders that are waging wars know whats best for the earth? idiots the lot of you! today in the british tabloids the UN science report on the melting of the Himalayan glaciers has been exposed as a fraud.
@grackene dude just because you had a warm year doesnt mean the world is gonna go into chaos..... the scientific evidence behind global warming is garbage.
There were NO weapons of mass destruction in Iraq - just as Dr. Hans Blix said; But, the Republican media machine didn't want us to hear that.
And, there is NO dangerous climate change caused by human carbon dioxide - just as the "independent scientists" are now trying to tell us! But, the Democrat media machine doesn't want us to hear that.
We are made to run from one boogieman to next, as each political party achieves its own agendas for them & their money mates.
Net Solar Radiation has NOT INCREASED since 1975. There is excellent satellite data to prove it.
An 11 year solar cycle causes a 0.2C average oscillation every 5.5 years. However, with NO NET increase in solar radiation since 1975, arctic ice and mountain glaciers have lost 50% of their total mass.
Duhh!!!
Not one single Climate Change denier can explain it.
Search:
NASA GISS Do Variations in the Solar Cycle Affect Our Climate System
The southern hemisphere experience as we speak the coldest temperature recorded in many decades. It was a very similar situation last year. This is NOT what I would expect from Global Warming. Is it not amasing how the outcry for global warming dies off every year it gets winter in both hemispheres?
BOM pressrelease "Climate records broken" 01/09/09:
"The latest temperatures recorded by the Bureau of Meteorology show that August 2009 will go down in the record books as Australias warmest August, while winter was only 0.01°C away from setting a record.
Dr David Walland, of the Bureau of Meteorology National Climate Centre, said August was a most extraordinary month, with Australian mean temperatures 2.47°C above the long-term average, breaking the previous record by 0.98°C
@repta272 yeah GLOBAL WARMING is causing all that presure pushing the weather that should be happening in Alaska and canada down to YOU. If you go farther north, its freakin WARM!
@Grackene According to the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre in Colorado, Arctic summer sea ice has increased by 409,000 square miles, or 26 per cent, since 2007 and even the most committed global warming activists do not dispute this.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Check out an article in the dailymail by David Rose.
... we have only recorded weather for a small fraction of the amount of time humans have existed so ... while your statement is true it does not proove any significant global warming. any more bullcrap science?
tantpwei - no sir, it was cooling and the rate of cooling picked up the last 9 years. It is exactly this cooling the Univ of East Anglia was trying to hide in what became known as the Climategate scandal.
people plz do what you can to re cycle materials and what make useful so far what I had been seeing on things how people are trying to make hybred cars uno and safer emissions all of it how you do make common sense of it the earth has been here b4man has step on this place there were changes then and will be changes now now we have to ad this to except and or change the way we all have been living that means all people who run cars. develop different means of bio energy
Don't be serious. It take long time. Just do what you want. NO CARES! Know what, i think it takes 2 to 3 generation. So i say relax. and prepare to swim. do what you want. Have a nice day. We are almost free from this sick earth hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.
They're still doing this data thing in outer space...there isnt any good proof yet
But still, just pretend there's no global warming...would u want to live in a world with bad pollution? it's happening, and a lot of people got sick because of it...
@danielng1990 where I live it is white for 9 months. Please turn up the heat. The bears are just fine. Don't believe everything they tell you, they just want your money.
well, we only have a low chance of saving this planet....and if, IF, E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E of us does these....WOULDNT THIS MAKE OUR ENVIROMENT BETTER AND NICER? so come on ppl
No, individual households do more to save the environment by not eating meat. If you're referring to cigarette smoking, then it isnt true. It contributes insignificantly on a global scale and has a minimal contribution individually. You may as well advise people to minimize their breathing habits.
I certainly do not have all the answers on GW simply because it is a complex problem and many (not only CO2) factors feed into this problem. To single out human made CO2 as the overriding factor is pre-emptive until other factors like the role of the sun, la- and el-nino impact on global temperature, the impact of sub-sea level volcanos (70% of all volcanos are below the surface of the sea), cosmic rays and simply the cyclical nature of GW over milenia are fully understood.
I look at it this way. If there is any chance of global warming being caused by us we should eliminate really stupid things that are still happening around the world like subsidising the use of non-renewable fuels. That is even happening in NZ.
Oil is a scare resource that will run out and the sooner the world faces up to higher oil prices and makes adjustments or substitutions for it the better. Brazil is perhaps leading the world.
well, when the ocean gets warm, it would melt the ice(lol, duh), and the sea level would increase. When that happens, some places would be buried under water...and not only that, it would also cause stronger storms, and the temperature would get warm. It would get kinda hot and it's not good.
Do this simple experiment. Fill a glass half full with cold water. Add as many ice cubes into the glass and mark the water level. Allow to stand and when all the ice has melted measure the water level again . There will be NO increase in the water level, which means if the entire north pole ice cap melts, sea level will not rise.
Destinyhopefan. You are absolutely correct to say we should remove pollutants from the air, but carbon dioxide is NOT a pollutant. Human caused global Warming is NOT about pollution. Have a look at the video: Climate change: Is CO2 the cause and I hope you will agree all this hype about human caused global warming is just scare mongering.
totally flawed experiment! takke your ice cubes put into another glass of water and when they melt pour the water in with firstt glass water level will rise dummy
You are clearly not familiar with Archimedes law and your comment just underlines that the Global warming alarmists have no idea about the science of GW and that their propaganda is just scare mongering.
actually your assuming the ice sheets are floating they are not therefore archimedes laws don't apply antartica is a land mass i.e a xcontinent therefore i stand by my statement it's people lke you that pretend thee's no problem even if there is i.e the ostrich syndrome
I was refering to the polar ice caps at the north pole - they float indeed. Regarding the melting of glaciers in antartica: That has nothing to do with global warming. The air temperature is permanently below zero and even if the temp once in a while do get above zero, the melting should start from the surface of the glacier. Because the glacier sits on land mass, no melting from the bottom can occur. The glaciers that do move, move under gravity and their own weight - nothing abnormal!
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shut the fuck up you don't know shit about the fucking enviornment or climate. My fucking grandfather is a 79 year old climatologist and he quit the IPCC after all the bullshit. Google CLIMATEGATE. He knows the truth. We are not the cause, ok? Its sun spots. CO2 is a product of temperature change, dumbass, not the other way round. Your just giving into the social norm and main stream media. Do your own research. Relax and go find a job, will ya. Stop spreading lies.
MrTruthVibrations 1 month ago
As aware as I am about our climate change problem, I must say this particular video is just a bit worthless. In order to teach/inform the public, we must pay attention to how our videos are perceived.
eddiequest4 2 months ago
Warmer is better.
DAILEYericCaryUSA 3 months ago
@DAILEYericCaryUSA Warmer is not better if you already live in a tropical or sub-tropical climate (which most of the world population do) and not great for those farmers who currently grow temperate adjusted crops in temperate zones as their crops will struggle with less water and extreme temps. See also Increased heat stress in humans and other mammals (Sherwood 2010) and Decline in global phytoplankton (Boyce 2010).
checkyoursources 2 months ago
@DAILEYericCaryUSA Unless, of course, one wishes to EAT occasionally.
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Global warming 'confirmed' by independent study See BBC news 21/10/2011 The Berkeley Earth Project has used new methods and some new data, but finds the same warming trend seen by groups such as the UK Met Office and Nasa.
The project received funds from sources that back organisations lobbying against action on climate change.
checkyoursources 3 months ago
The things is before global warming occured naturally, now however its going so fast that many speices of animals can't adapt quickly enough and have died....
galaxies101 3 months ago
@galaxies101 ANother great reason Not to have kids.
MrBeautifulba1 2 months ago
Enjoy the growing glaciers around the globe everyone. Glaciers growing and receding as they have been doing for countless ages.
DaveGibbagglers 4 months ago
@LastCynicStanding According to the acknowledgments listed in the 2003 paper, it was funded by the American Petroleum Institute. Baliunas is listed as being affiliated with nine organizations that have received funding from ExxonMobil. She certianly has oily hands.
checkyoursources 4 months ago
Quit copy and pasting shit you get off Wiki as if it were your personal knowledge!!!!!!!!
LastCynicStanding 4 months ago
To see the truth that is driving these carboneer monkeys more crazy than they are
What the carboneers do not want you to know
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DaveGibbagglers 7 months ago
@DaveGibbagglers look up the WGMS data yourself. You confuse these issues by cherry picking individual glaciers or by ignoring long term trends. The long term trends being that globally glaciers are losing mass as temps rise. Over the period 1946–2005, the WGMS have monitored 228 glaciers for mass data and over a thousand for length data, the vast majority of glaciers monitored showed mass loss. Less than 5% showed growth in mass. Try peer reviewed sceince not fox news and blogs.
checkyoursources 4 months ago
@checkyoursources I am going to say this again in the hopes it sinks in.
These so called shrinking glaciers are a result of the amount of precipitation. If the temperature of the mass of the Earths atmosphere increases then humidity increases hence the glaciers grow. You seriously have things backwards. Climatologists make this mistake. Glaciologists make this mistake. Garbage men make this mistake.
Astrophysicists do not make this mistake. You should check your sources.
LastCynicStanding 4 months ago
@LastCynicStanding By your logic in the ice age there were no glaciers! please name a peer reviewed paper to back your view that "glaciers grow when the planet gets warmer". Precipitation has a minimal and localised effect when compared to the effects of temperture p.s. The temp of the earth has risen since the 1970's and the glaciers have shrunk, I suggest you look up the WGMS data for yourself. Next you will be sayig that spring flowers appearing earlier each year are in on the AGW "scam"?!
checkyoursources 4 months ago
@checkyoursources Glaciers are growing around the globe which seems to send the global warming taliban into a jihad frenzy, you at least acknowledge the truth of the growing glaciers. Growing glaciers around the globe is great and happy news to combat the lies and fear & gloom put forth by the global warming taliban
DaveGibbagglers 4 months ago
@DaveGibbagglers According to the World glacier monitoring service (WGMS) you are incorrect. If you gave a source that would be nice otherwise you could be telling fibs or are just mistaken.
checkyoursources 4 months ago
@DaveGibbagglers Braithwaite, R.J. 2002. Glacier mass balance: the first 50 years of international monitoring. Progr. Phys. Geogr., 26 (1), 76-95 AND Dyurgerov, M.B. 2002. Glacier mass balance and regime: data of measurements and analysis. Boulder, CO, University of Colorado, Institute of Arctic and Alpine Research. INSTAAR Occasional Paper 55. and Ohmura, A. 2006. Changes in mountain glaciers and ice caps during the 20th century. Ann. Glaciol., 43, 361-368. all say you are wrong too.
checkyoursources 4 months ago
@checkyoursources Awesome news on the growing glaciers around the globe. Be happy instead of this global warming taliban fear, doom and gloom that is causing you all to be sick physically and mentally.
DaveGibbagglers 4 months ago
@checkyoursources Ahh the old~ 'Proof by verbosity', sometimes colloquially referred to as argumentum verbosium - a rhetorical technique that tries to persuade by overwhelming those considering an argument with such a volume of material that the argument sounds plausible, superficially appears to be well-researched, and it is so laborious to untangle and check supporting facts that the argument might be allowed to slide by unchallenged."
DaveGibbagglers 4 months ago
@DaveGibbagglers ROFL....
So true that they are over saturated with information and if they would just take the time to read more than the conclusions that existed before the study they might understand. They accuse the scientists of accepting huge grants yet the scientists that do not support the GW scam are all driving KIAs and living in apartments. Mr Mann on the other hand has received over 2 Million in grants this year alone. He drives a luxury car and lives in a huge house.
LastCynicStanding 4 months ago
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@DaveGibbagglers Global warming 'confirmed' by independent study See BBC news 21/10/2011 The Berkeley Earth Project has used new methods and some new data, but finds the same warming trend seen by groups such as the UK Met Office and Nasa.
The project received funds from sources that back organisations lobbying against action on climate change.
checkyoursources 3 months ago
Growing glaciers around the world
DaveGibbagglers 9 months ago
@DaveGibbagglers Moron: (
winterstellar 8 months ago
@DaveGibbagglers While there are isolated cases of growing glaciers, the overwhelming trend in glaciers worldwide is retreat. In fact, the global melt rate has been accelerating since the mid-1970s. See: World Glacier Monitoring Service (WGMS) data.
checkyoursources 8 months ago
@checkyoursources Why? Your source is tainted.
The WGMS is funded by the UNEP. You have to find the money to find the truth.
LastCynicStanding 4 months ago
@LastCynicStanding ICSU (WDS), IUGG (IACS), UNEP, UNESCO, WMO all support and work with the WGMS so calling them all liars is dishonest and frankly illogical. The fact is that any data I put forward you will either claim is wrong because it doesn't feed your confirmation bias or because you claim they are all liars?!
Your dishonesty is obvious.
checkyoursources 4 months ago
@checkyoursources I know you are talking about Cogley from Trent, who else could it be? This man is not an astrophysicist therefore he does not collect the observational data. The problem with listening to unqualified people is that they do not give you the whole picture. If he was perhaps more schooled then he would know that glaciers grow as the mass of the atmosphere rises.
So if there is any humour in this conversation it is that your whole argument is based on misinterpretation.
LastCynicStanding 4 months ago
@LastCynicStanding Please feel free to name a peer reviewed paper that backs your view that "high temps causes glacier increase". As stated and explained in this paper: Norwegian mountain glaciers in the past, present and future Atle Nesje et al 9 February 2007 Precipitation has a minimal and localised effect when compared to temperature hence glacier mass worldwide has fallen since the 1970's. There are isolated cases of glacier growth but these a few and far between.
checkyoursources 4 months ago
@checkyoursources Look it up yourself. It is not my job to educate you. You are looking at papers that are written and reviewed by the same people. This is not peer reviewed. Just look at Dr. Mann's hockey stick that you are toting around. He omitted the data from the little ice age and the medieval warm period to make his graph and then he was the peer to review it. How could it be more obviously propaganda?
Also the IPCC's Mr. Mann is a physicist, not an astrophysicist.
LastCynicStanding 4 months ago
@LastCynicStanding As stated you have yet to name even one peer reviewed paper that backs your views, very dishonest. p.s. this from an Astrophysicist from the Max Planck Institute fur Sonnensystemforschung: "we point out that solar
variability is unlikely to have been the dominant cause of the strong warming during the past three decades" Solanki et al 2004. Next you will be saying that James Hansen has no training in astrophysics!
checkyoursources 4 months ago
@checkyoursources That paper does not include what warming it is talking about. It also directly contradicts itself when it says the sunspots are high in magnitude yet somehow they are not responsible for the climate.
Also do you really have to go back seven years to find an article that still tries to sell this? There is a miniscule reference to your theory in every years climate report you know?
LastCynicStanding 4 months ago
@LastCynicStanding Here are some that agree with me: Erlykin 2009: "We deduce that the maximum recent increase in the mean surface temperature of the Earth which can be ascribed to solar activity is 14% of the observed global warming." Benestad 2009, Lockwood 2008, Lean 2008, Ammann 2007, Foukal 2006, Solanki 2004, Lean 1999 etc etc Now then... you have supplied.....none...nada....not a sausage to back your view!
checkyoursources 4 months ago
@checkyoursources Your first source is not even a doctor. I will not waste any time double checking your BS list because I know you did not real all those articles in a day. I also know you just googled what you were trying to prove and obviously did not CHECK YOUR SOURCES.
Now if you are going to keep crying that I have not educated you yet then I will give you a name you should already have. Dr. Sallie Baliunas is simply studying the phenom with no extra agenda.
LastCynicStanding 4 months ago
@LastCynicStanding You said: "Your first source is not even a doctor, I will not waste any time double checking your BS list ", correct, he is a visiting Professor at Durham Uni Dept of Physics. the co authors of Erlykin et al 2009 are both PhD's. The fact you dismissed: Benestad 2009, Lockwood 2008, Lean 2008, Ammann 2007, Foukal 2006, Solanki 2004, Lean 1999 in one go shows you have severe confimation bias.
checkyoursources 4 months ago
@LastCynicStanding You mean Sallie Baliunas whose 2003 paper was funded by the American Petroleum Institute and the journal editor later admitted that the conclusions of the paper could not be supported by the evidence and that the journal should have requested appropriate revisions prior to publication. She also claimed in 2001 that no warming had occured in the last 50 years. In later statements Baliunas acknowledged the measured warming in the satellite and balloon records. next.
checkyoursources 4 months ago
@checkyoursources It is a good thing Harvard does not share your slanderous attitude. The grant money received was all on the level and after the fact. You assume that the oil industry paid someone to ignore the dedication it takes to attain credentials far in excess of the top 10%. The money trail shows that they found her and Soon due to their research and then offered funding to protect their interests.
LastCynicStanding 4 months ago
@LastCynicStanding The oil industry offered their grant to Baliunus, who didn't even admit the temperatures had warmed until the last few years! I say again on her 2003 paper: "the journal publsher later admitted that the conclusions of the paper could not be supported by the evidence provided by Baliunus and Soon and three editors of Climate Research resigned in protest over its publication. She has multiple links to the oil industry/ is a member of the Heartland institute, need I say more?
checkyoursources 4 months ago
@checkyoursources I hope you never say anything again. The paper trail is clear and just how I described. What people should notice is what that these sober sounding scientists that are not on your bandwagon do but what they do not do.
They do not slander the opposition. Why do you feel the need to use derogatory terms such as deniers or flat earthers? Greenpeace never released the source behind their over $1M in dirty money accusation. It was really less then 1/4 that amount.
LastCynicStanding 4 months ago
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@LastCynicStanding You said: "do not slander the opposition" May I bring your attention to your hypocrisy from your earlier comment: "Your first source is not even a doctor, I will not waste any time double checking your BS list ".
checkyoursources 4 months ago
@checkyoursources wait wait wait wait.......
James Hansen is your champion? The guy that was arrested during the mountain top demonstrations? The guy that accuses NASA of falsifying their own data when it does not fit into his ideology?
That guy is more of a shill than Dr. Mann and again you need to CHECK YOUR SOURCES!
LastCynicStanding 4 months ago
@LastCynicStanding James Hansen must be your champion because you are the one claiming that "only" astrophysics trained people have any understandinmg of climate change and James Hansen is most certainly from an astrophysics background! Still waiiting for one peer reviewed article that agrees with your views, this is very tiresome. Stop delaying with your ad hominems and give some evidence!
checkyoursources 4 months ago
@checkyoursources Holy crap I just noticed your name!!!
Do what your name says!!!!
Seriously WTF?!?!?!
You quote on organization founded in '86 by the UN to find a way to promote the global tax as your source and your fucking name is checkyoursources????
Ya..... that says a lot guy.
LastCynicStanding 4 months ago
@LastCynicStanding Ad hominem much?
1) Please feel free to name any scientific organisation that disagrees that long term global reduction in glacier volume is a fact.
2) Here are a few papers that show shrinking in glacier mass totals worldwide: Cogley J.G. (2009): Geodetic and direct mass-balance
measurements: comparison and joint analysis. Annals of Glaciology 50(50) 96-100 OR Greene et al (2005)Journal of Glaciology, Volume 51, Number 174, June 2005 , pp. 353-362(10) . Next.
checkyoursources 4 months ago
@checkyoursources You should check your sources.
Frankly your first statement makes me ignore any further input from you. You might think that slipping data such as the mass of certain glaciers off as irrefutable evidence that cow farts are killing the planet however it does not. If the mass of the atmosphere of the planet Earth was heating up due to cow farts as you say then the glaciers would grow.
Shrinking glaciers means that it is getting cooler and any astrophysicist knows that.
LastCynicStanding 4 months ago
@LastCynicStanding You're ignoring me because you failed to actually read: Cogley J.G. (2009): Geodetic and direct mass-balance measurements: comparison and joint analysis. Annals of Glaciology 50(50) 96-100. Only a bad astrophysicist would suggest that shrinking glaciers mean its getting cooler!
2010 was the warmest year on record according to the WMO, but let me guess, you will acuse the entire organisation of thousands of scientists of lying in your next comment.
checkyoursources 4 months ago
@checkyoursources I read the papers. Did you?
Frankly some of them describe the growth of certain glaciers.
again guy...
check your fucking sources... or at least read them
LastCynicStanding 4 months ago
@LastCynicStanding "growth of certain glaciers"- certain glaciers, but most were shrinking. I ask again, overall were glaciers globally shrinking or gaining mass in the papers I quoted hmmm?
Try reading the papers in full before you dig a deeper hole and i make you look really silly.
checkyoursources 4 months ago
@checkyoursources Your goal is to make people look silly? At least you take your alarmist BS as seriously as the rest of the Greenpeace trust fund babies.
Frankly the amount of times you tell me that I said things that I did not elude to how insane you are and I really have no interest in talking to a crazy person. I will tell you that I am obviously not ignoring you hence the reply. I assume you are referring to Cogley from Trent?
LastCynicStanding 4 months ago
@LastCynicStanding Nothing I have stated here has been alarmist, it has been from peer reviewed scientific papers (you have yet to name one that backs your views) or from the likes of NASA, NOAA, the WGMS and the WMO. Please feel free to name one "alarmist comment you think I have made and while you are at it please name a peer reviewed paper that states that globally glaciers are gaining mass?
checkyoursources 4 months ago
@checkyoursources You are promoting tree hugging extremist papers that ignore the science they are addressing. That is alarmist.
LastCynicStanding 4 months ago
@LastCynicStanding 1) your comment is ad hominem and subjective. 2) Please indicate which paper I sugested is "alarmist" so that others seeing our comments can decide for themselves.
checkyoursources 4 months ago
@checkyoursources Actually NOAA is one of the best places to end this pointless conversation. They have been recording the sea level rise since 1870. From now on you can go argue with the sea level about the theories this propaganda has polluted your mind with.
LastCynicStanding 4 months ago
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@checkyoursources Actually NOAA is one of the best places to end this pointless conversation. They have been recording the sea level rise since 1870. From now on you can go argue with the sea level about the theories this propaganda has polluted your mind with.
LastCynicStanding 4 months ago
The global warming problem is a well thought out "CREATION". Co2 was "SELECTED" to be the culprate behind global warming because of it's invisible and ellusive characteristics. The detection Co2 is beyond your natural human capabilities therefore making individual accountability impossible. This newley created global warming religion will be used by the corporate overlords to manipulate and condemn the common people by regulating their everyday human activities.DisasterCapitalism
alltvisanimated 1 year ago
@alltvisanimated And to add on to what you said, many scientists are in fact saying we are going into a mini ace instead of the opposite.
CombatMTv3 1 year ago
@CombatMTv3 We should have been, but we're not. Without the man-made global warming we would be entering a new ice-age, that's the fact.
winterstellar 8 months ago
scientists fly over these places in the hight of summer, see a river of water on a glacier and say "look global warming"
balado1988 1 year ago
We used to call melting ice spring before insanity set in. Melting ice proves absolutely nothing other than what we already knew. Temps go up and down. Ice forms and melts. Change is what the climate does. Cause is something else entirely. 99% truth + 1% lie = lie.
successfisherman 1 year ago
REPUBLICANS SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
maplemanz 1 year ago
climate change is NOT caused by carbon ---- scientific fact
sasktank 1 year ago
no the cause of continuining global warming is right wing americans. They are the only reason REAL change is not being done to help stop the huge problem. I think it's a fair question of who I hate more, terrorists or right wing americans
slakker8000 1 year ago
@slakker8000
That's about the more ignorant thing I have read all day. You might as well say that the blacks cause global warming. Also I might add there is no evidence to show that humans cause global climate change. In the last billion years the entire planet has been both covered with thousands of feet of ice and had global temperatures much warmer than we see today.
SPYK3O 1 year ago
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slakker8000 1 year ago
@slakker8000
Now that was inappropriate. I am educated and a realist, I look at facts and make educated decisions to the best of my ability. The reason why there isn't a huge global movement to fix global warming is because we are not in full possession of the facts. Realistically knowing even basic energy density numbers of various fuels and power sources fossil fuels are almost off the charts in the energy available and the modern world is based completely on it. Also I am not GOP.
SPYK3O 1 year ago
@SPYK3O Well then you're not educated nor a realist. What is real is every national science body in the world saying: man made global warming is real. So your claim that "there is no evidence to show that humans cause global climate change" is total garbage. Are you able to comprehend that?
slakker8000 1 year ago
@slakker8000
The problem with global warming is that no one disputes the climate changes. The planet is getting warmer and the evidence is receding ice. The problem is there is almost no evidence to support that we are causing it and plenty of bad science and scandal surrounding it. So my stance (and most intelligent people for that matter) is we need to step back and survey the situation. Is there even a problem? NASA has recently invested a large interest in finding solutions to some answers
SPYK3O 1 year ago
@SPYK3O By realist what are you claiming? That you somehow see reality in a 'real' way? For example Fox News seeing the 'real' truth? Forget all those scientists and their idiotic research of the world we live in, forget all their results from tried and tested models and 'real' world experimentation. The 'real' truth is something altogether different no? Please enlighten me with this strange reality you choose to dwell in. It sounds very intriguing.
slakker8000 1 year ago
@slakker8000
Just I side note I like how you say "tried and tested models". Micrometeorology is by no means an exact science and we are just beginning to scratch the surface of macrometeorology. I can see where this is going and I can see you are a brainwashed, biased, idiot so this will probably be the last time I reply to any of your comments as nothing intelligent can come of it. If a god exists may it have mercy on your soul.
SPYK3O 1 year ago
@SPYK3O The standard 'brainwashed' answer. You're correct that you don't need to reply, you've proven you're a complete inept retard. So what part of every national science board stating man made global warming is real brainwashed me? Hey maybe theres a scandal in every country! Surely right wing americans know better than scientists right? Hey I'm sure Glenn Beck or Bill O'rielly know better than those scrupulous scientists around the world with their hidden agenda and secret drug trafficking.
slakker8000 1 year ago
@SPYK3O If there is a God, you're going straight to hell mate. Endless respectable scientists have produced work and had people beaver away trying to find one thing that could possibly disprove it, and usually suceeding. That's your 'scandal' and so called 'bad science'. No theory can be proved 10% afaik but a huge number can 99%+.
But hey lets carry on polluting, since no ones making money off that, only Al Gore and the scientists are making the money huh? Not our friendly giant corporations.
slakker8000 1 year ago
@SPYK3O I stand by what I said earlier. I really hope you leave this planet soon. People like you are so fucking thick that you're just wasting oxygen. Go back to your 'real' scientists, who call the 1% the 'reality', since theres no point protecting the planet huh? or at least lets carry on polluting and look for a solution in the next 50 years. What's the point in trying to help the planet?
slakker8000 1 year ago
@slakker8000
Well I can only tell you how it is, if you get angry with yourself over it so be it. Al Gore did make a billion dollars fear mongering global warming and presentations of false facts and skewed logic. It probably will be about 50 years before anything really changes. We will probably be burning gas in cars longer than that. I like how you assume I watch Fox news when in actuality I don't even have a television.
SPYK3O 1 year ago
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@SPYK3O There is more evidence of human caused climate change than evidence that the sun is on fire. You GOP fanatics are a waste of oxygen, please kill yourself. You people are the prime reason nothing is being done about this in the world. Every country bar America signed Kyoto, because America is the prime polluter.....people have just ignored the treaty.
slakker8000 1 year ago
The Illuminati are the cause of global warming.
Don't worry, they tell the ice when to melt and went not to melt.
We're safe.
EpicBattleAxeYo 1 year ago
can someone tell me why allgore is being sued by 30,000 scientist about global warming? Oh yeah cuese global warming is bullshit. fuck allgore
GGGG760 1 year ago
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June, 2010 - ARCTIC SEA ICE LOWEST ever recorded - NSIDC
The average Arctic sea ice volume for May 2010 was 19,000 cubic kilometers (4,600 cubic miles), the lowest May volume over the 1979 to 2010 period. May 2010 volume was 42% below the 1979 maximum, and 32% below the 1979 to 2009 May average.
goog2k 1 year ago
Climate change chief says sorry for hot air claim over melting glaciers
By David Derbyshire
Last updated at 10:21 AM on 22nd January 2010
After a global outcry, Dr Rajendra Pachauri - chairman of the IPCC - has issued an unprecedented apology.
dailymai(.)co(.)uk/news/articl e-1245161/Climate-change-chief -says-sorry-hot-air-claim-melt ing-glaciers(.)html#ixzz0dLXw1 aeR
Thisawareness 1 year ago
climate change is on its death bed now
its going to be a long painful death due to the money involved in this hoax
motoxmainia 2 years ago
@motoxmainia What if your wrong? Then what?
cebevel 1 year ago
Pascal's wager is BS. Use a proper argument instead of playing to people's fears.
Scoforever 1 year ago
@Scoforever , It's the same argument christians tell me when I tell them I don't believe in god. I suppose it's my opinion, no one is forcing you to believe it, but you are going to have to change your ways regardless of whether or not you like it. We have a finite amount of resources on this planet and more mouths to feed. So you don't have to believe in climate change, but you will have to live in a more "Conservative" way in regards to the way we humans consume and interact with the planet.
cebevel 1 year ago
@cebevel
We will be able to create more sustainable technologies if we are richer. Taxing carbon does not make us richer.
Scoforever 1 year ago
@Scoforever Who cares about being richer? I want to have a good clean life. I need very little as I don't live beyond my means. I would rather us have a clean environment for my kids to enjoy. Punish the polluters and reward those who seek out new technologies. What is wrong with that?
cebevel 1 year ago
@cebevel
I would like to see a richer society as we can only have a good standard of living if we are rich. We can also afford to take care of our environment if we are rich.
Scoforever 1 year ago
@Scoforever Can you outline for me the path to achieving wealth for all people? Define rich. Do you mean monetarily or spiritually?
cebevel 1 year ago
@cebevel
By rich I mean that people have more goods and have more free time. Too achieve this wealth people need to be allowed to use resources freely. People also have to have their rights to life, liberty and property protected. Once that is done wealth will increase as voluntary actions benefit both sides otherwise they wouldn't happen.
Scoforever 1 year ago
@Scoforever ok. So who is going to protect your property and life? If it were left completely to voluntary actions you would only rely on the good in society, which of coarse is not all men. Rules and enforcement measures are put into place to protect people from predation. Do you suggest anarchy?
cebevel 1 year ago
@cebevel
I do not suggest anarchy. I believe we need a minimal government that can be funded by taxes. As we transition to a free society we can move away from taxes and towards donating to government.
Scoforever 1 year ago
@Scoforever Can't argue with you there. I'm a firefighter here in Southern Cali, and I'm quite keen on the government receiving tax money. I wouldn't have a job otherwise. It would be nice to see tax money spent more wisely, although, it is a fantasy to think we will ever be free of it. I'm afraid we will just have to agree to disagree on certain things.
cebevel 1 year ago
@Scoforever I'd also like to hear from you, what part of the scientific method employed by scientist do you have a problem with?
cebevel 1 year ago
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@cebevel
I have a problem with the scientific method when it is abused and statements are removed from an IPCC report.
tinyurl . com / ipccdeletes
Scoforever 1 year ago
Help protect our environment, use environmentally friendly products.
coirgreen 2 years ago 4
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Do you honestly believe our leaders that are waging wars know whats best for the earth? idiots the lot of you! today in the british tabloids the UN science report on the melting of the Himalayan glaciers has been exposed as a fraud.
GuysSeriously 2 years ago
@grackene dude just because you had a warm year doesnt mean the world is gonna go into chaos..... the scientific evidence behind global warming is garbage.
repta272 2 years ago
The scientific evidence is concrete and real.
tantpwei 2 years ago
Mt. Kilimanjaro's glacier is retreating because of deforestation NOT "global warming".
The Earth has been cooling for more than a decade.
Google: CLIMATEGATE
TheParadigmShift 2 years ago
SAME THING
froggerstop 2 years ago
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There were NO weapons of mass destruction in Iraq - just as Dr. Hans Blix said; But, the Republican media machine didn't want us to hear that.
And, there is NO dangerous climate change caused by human carbon dioxide - just as the "independent scientists" are now trying to tell us! But, the Democrat media machine doesn't want us to hear that.
We are made to run from one boogieman to next, as each political party achieves its own agendas for them & their money mates.
SEE Professor Bob Carter
weallknowitstrue 2 years ago
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Zzozze 2 years ago
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Zzozze 2 years ago
Please see my contributions to save rainforest,global warming and climate change and rising sea level
vkpillay 2 years ago
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Net Solar Radiation has NOT INCREASED since 1975. There is excellent satellite data to prove it.
An 11 year solar cycle causes a 0.2C average oscillation every 5.5 years. However, with NO NET increase in solar radiation since 1975, arctic ice and mountain glaciers have lost 50% of their total mass.
Duhh!!!
Not one single Climate Change denier can explain it.
Search:
NASA GISS Do Variations in the Solar Cycle Affect Our Climate System
Also:
Climate Change: NASA's Eyes on the Earth
goog2k 2 years ago
The southern hemisphere experience as we speak the coldest temperature recorded in many decades. It was a very similar situation last year. This is NOT what I would expect from Global Warming. Is it not amasing how the outcry for global warming dies off every year it gets winter in both hemispheres?
oomblikkies 2 years ago
oom- Oh yeah?
BOM pressrelease "Climate records broken" 01/09/09:
"The latest temperatures recorded by the Bureau of Meteorology show that August 2009 will go down in the record books as Australias warmest August, while winter was only 0.01°C away from setting a record.
Dr David Walland, of the Bureau of Meteorology National Climate Centre, said August was a most extraordinary month, with Australian mean temperatures 2.47°C above the long-term average, breaking the previous record by 0.98°C
ech1dna 2 years ago
And while you are at it, google the following docs from BOM:
"Exceptional winter heat over large parts of Australia 2009"
"The exceptional January-February 2009 heatwave in south-eastern Australia"
"An exceptional and prolonged heatwave in southern Australia 2008"
"Six years of widespread drought in southern and eastern Australia, 2001 to 2007"
"Warmest May and autumn on record in eastern Australia 2007
"An exceptionally hot February in much of southern and western Australia 2007"
ech1dna 2 years ago
lol and notice how they quickly change their program to "climate crisis" when we reached the record cold spells lol its such b.s. science...
repta272 2 years ago
@repta272 yeah GLOBAL WARMING is causing all that presure pushing the weather that should be happening in Alaska and canada down to YOU. If you go farther north, its freakin WARM!
Grackene 2 years ago
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@Grackene According to the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre in Colorado, Arctic summer sea ice has increased by 409,000 square miles, or 26 per cent, since 2007 and even the most committed global warming activists do not dispute this.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Check out an article in the dailymail by David Rose.
Too funny!!
"alarming melting ice in the north pole"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! SUCKERS
unclewooly 2 years ago
The last decade is the warmest on record since record began.
tantpwei 2 years ago
... we have only recorded weather for a small fraction of the amount of time humans have existed so ... while your statement is true it does not proove any significant global warming. any more bullcrap science?
repta272 2 years ago
tantpwei - no sir, it was cooling and the rate of cooling picked up the last 9 years. It is exactly this cooling the Univ of East Anglia was trying to hide in what became known as the Climategate scandal.
oomblikkies 2 years ago
people plz do what you can to re cycle materials and what make useful so far what I had been seeing on things how people are trying to make hybred cars uno and safer emissions all of it how you do make common sense of it the earth has been here b4man has step on this place there were changes then and will be changes now now we have to ad this to except and or change the way we all have been living that means all people who run cars. develop different means of bio energy
aman4peace 2 years ago
cute penguins
jeffmull 2 years ago
geee..
lemme guess,
was this done.. in Summer by any chance?
savannahaustralia 2 years ago
Don't be serious. It take long time. Just do what you want. NO CARES! Know what, i think it takes 2 to 3 generation. So i say relax. and prepare to swim. do what you want. Have a nice day. We are almost free from this sick earth hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.
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jonnypat 3 years ago
They're still doing this data thing in outer space...there isnt any good proof yet
But still, just pretend there's no global warming...would u want to live in a world with bad pollution? it's happening, and a lot of people got sick because of it...
destinyhopefan112 3 years ago
Last time I checked, C02 was not a pollutant.
jizzmonger 3 years ago
we're not even sure yet
destinyhopefan112 3 years ago
there is no god
satanfiras 3 years ago
jesus is coming
nujnujgalbis 3 years ago
lord plsss help us!!!!
lawmarsapology10 3 years ago 2
pls stop hurting the green planet!stupid human!
danielng1990 3 years ago 10
LOL
jizzmonger 3 years ago
@danielng1990 where I live it is white for 9 months. Please turn up the heat. The bears are just fine. Don't believe everything they tell you, they just want your money.
jwboll 1 year ago
people are making such a big deal bout this right now. but the truth is that they are not doing anything about it to stop the problem.
I mean it is a big issue but the temperature isn not going up very constantly its only going up like 1-2 degrees each year... =]
RudyFarias559 3 years ago
well, we only have a low chance of saving this planet....and if, IF, E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E of us does these....WOULDNT THIS MAKE OUR ENVIROMENT BETTER AND NICER? so come on ppl
destinyhopefan112 3 years ago
Just stop eating meat if you're so concerned about this.
LiesMakeBabyJesusCry 3 years ago
it's not like there's no other ways to save it
destinyhopefan112 3 years ago
It's the most effective way.
LiesMakeBabyJesusCry 3 years ago
not really, smoking and cars are the most effective way
destinyhopefan112 3 years ago
No, individual households do more to save the environment by not eating meat. If you're referring to cigarette smoking, then it isnt true. It contributes insignificantly on a global scale and has a minimal contribution individually. You may as well advise people to minimize their breathing habits.
LiesMakeBabyJesusCry 3 years ago
I can still do other ways to save the planet so whatever >_>
destinyhopefan112 3 years ago
No matter, long as you're doing something
LiesMakeBabyJesusCry 3 years ago
You should start by not wasting electricity making posts on Youtube forums.
jizzmonger 3 years ago 5
This planet need no salvation because thare is no crisis if one compare temperature records of the last 400000 years.
oomblikkies 2 years ago
Do you think you have all the answers about global warming ???
HumanRightsVideosT 2 years ago
I certainly do not have all the answers on GW simply because it is a complex problem and many (not only CO2) factors feed into this problem. To single out human made CO2 as the overriding factor is pre-emptive until other factors like the role of the sun, la- and el-nino impact on global temperature, the impact of sub-sea level volcanos (70% of all volcanos are below the surface of the sea), cosmic rays and simply the cyclical nature of GW over milenia are fully understood.
oomblikkies 2 years ago
I look at it this way. If there is any chance of global warming being caused by us we should eliminate really stupid things that are still happening around the world like subsidising the use of non-renewable fuels. That is even happening in NZ.
Oil is a scare resource that will run out and the sooner the world faces up to higher oil prices and makes adjustments or substitutions for it the better. Brazil is perhaps leading the world.
HumanRightsVideosT 2 years ago
These factors are singled out!
dwolfcoach 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Do you honestly think that the melting of ice means the climate is falling apart?
jizzmonger 3 years ago
yes i do. its call warming the ocean changing ocean circulation around the world.....
ash4432 3 years ago
Promise?
Please explain in detail.
jizzmonger 3 years ago
well, when the ocean gets warm, it would melt the ice(lol, duh), and the sea level would increase. When that happens, some places would be buried under water...and not only that, it would also cause stronger storms, and the temperature would get warm. It would get kinda hot and it's not good.
destinyhopefan112 3 years ago
How much has the level of the ocean changed thus far?
jizzmonger 3 years ago
5 cm per year....
destinyhopefan112 2 years ago
How much has the Sea Level changed since 1900?
jizzmonger 2 years ago
not sure. Now stop asking me...Just at least do something >_>
destinyhopefan112 2 years ago
It hasn't.
Me doing something involves telling you to stop wasting electricity by getting the hell off the internet where you point the finger at everyone else.
jizzmonger 2 years ago
Do this simple experiment. Fill a glass half full with cold water. Add as many ice cubes into the glass and mark the water level. Allow to stand and when all the ice has melted measure the water level again . There will be NO increase in the water level, which means if the entire north pole ice cap melts, sea level will not rise.
oomblikkies 2 years ago
Would it hurt to at least help the planet and make this environment better? So people would get sick less often.
destinyhopefan112 2 years ago
Destinyhopefan. You are absolutely correct to say we should remove pollutants from the air, but carbon dioxide is NOT a pollutant. Human caused global Warming is NOT about pollution. Have a look at the video: Climate change: Is CO2 the cause and I hope you will agree all this hype about human caused global warming is just scare mongering.
oomblikkies 2 years ago
i dont really care =_=
destinyhopefan112 2 years ago
totally flawed experiment! takke your ice cubes put into another glass of water and when they melt pour the water in with firstt glass water level will rise dummy
china1324 2 years ago
You are clearly not familiar with Archimedes law and your comment just underlines that the Global warming alarmists have no idea about the science of GW and that their propaganda is just scare mongering.
oomblikkies 2 years ago
actually your assuming the ice sheets are floating they are not therefore archimedes laws don't apply antartica is a land mass i.e a xcontinent therefore i stand by my statement it's people lke you that pretend thee's no problem even if there is i.e the ostrich syndrome
china1324 2 years ago
I was refering to the polar ice caps at the north pole - they float indeed. Regarding the melting of glaciers in antartica: That has nothing to do with global warming. The air temperature is permanently below zero and even if the temp once in a while do get above zero, the melting should start from the surface of the glacier. Because the glacier sits on land mass, no melting from the bottom can occur. The glaciers that do move, move under gravity and their own weight - nothing abnormal!
oomblikkies 2 years ago
Do you know what is happening in Greenland ???
Apparently glaciers are melting flat out in Greenland.
HumanRightsVideosT 2 years ago
is this summer or winter cause it makes a difference
jhonnynohe 3 years ago
why does NASA shows this ? It does not mean much does it ? There is NO INFORMATION.
NASA should publish satellite pictures of what is important : the actual melting over the years.
They do have the data, they were told to hold it right there.
NASA uses your tax money, ask them for them to publish information instead of noise.
911allo 3 years ago
thats sad :(
noofie13 3 years ago 4