The british army will always be the best in the world, maybe not for their numbers or their ability to follow orders but for the simple fact they are real men, who even being fired upon by the enemy will always treat prisoners/enemy with honor and respect.
This war was from a time when men were REAL MEN, todays wars in Iraq its technology that wins wars, armies like the USA have no respect or honor for the people they are fighting against and are even heard of mocking and degrading prisoners.
@Eddieposted - ok, I know it was pretty widespread, but it was a planned strategy to humiliate the islanders or a spontanous action commanding officers were unable or maybe not willing enough to prevent?
@Eddieposted - I was rather thinking on putting guns near civillian accomodation, As far as things you were described - do you think it was a part of a strategy or just some soldiers/officers wanted to express they anger/frustration/sense of power or whatever?
@Eddieposted - I guess that putting booby traps could be a part of defence strategy (this does not justify is at all). But do you think making houses dirty and intimidating the islanders was any part of a bigger strategy or just actions of individual soldiers/officers who were not supervised enough by their superiors? I know any more drastic actions were forbidden.
@OlenkaWagner And whats the proof of all that load of crap they say? because a kelper said so? because a briton said so? how do we know if it wasnt actually them who made the houses dirty and then filmed to try to incriminate their enemies?
@Arminevh - But what would be the purpose of doing so? The film was made and reports recorded after the surrender, so the British or the islanders were not interested in presenting the occupation worse than it was. The war (and propaganda war as well) was over that time.
@OlenkaWagner The purpose is very clear they DID need to present the occupation worse than it was. So far the Argentines had recovered their islands without killing anyone, they had not killed or seriously mistreated any islander, they had respected their property and whereas the british were to take the islands at ANY cost, the Argentines actually tried to protect them etc.
By and large the behaviour of the Argentines had been quite decent so they DID need to make us look bad.....
@Arminevh - But why it was necessary after the surrender? The British cost was not so high (of course any loss of life is tragic) to present the occupation worse than it was to justify the intervention.
Another thing is that if there had been any attempt to fake the evidence of making houses dirty etc. - there would appear people that would tell about this by that time. Nothing of this sort has ever happened.
@OlenkaWagner The cost for the British was indeed too high considering that Argentina did nothing but a token effort to defend their islands, however that has nothing to do with them trying to make us look bad, they had no other thing to blame us for, since even Hastings and Jenkins (and others) said the Argentine behaviour was quite decent, in fact they never mentioned those lies....
@Arminevh - the description of Argentine behaviour as decent was because they did not kill or inficted irreversible health damage to any civilian. But that does not exclude the cases described in the movie.
@OlenkaWagner You know, I know and my dog knows that one needs more than that to be described as decent, and that decent Argentine behaviour described by people such as Hastings and jenkins does exclude lies described in the film.
@OlenkaWagner But in any case the question still remains, whats the proof of all that rubbish? because they say so? people who have murdered, enslaved, tortured and stolen pacific people all over the world, even irish, Scottish and Welsh SAY SO!? I am afraid I do need more than their word......
@Arminevh - if many people say the same it is unlikely to think that they were lying. The post office has actually been shown so this is more substantial evidence. Of course anything could be denied (like the Moon Landing is denied by some people), but I simply think that the hypothesis that the islanders were telling the truth iis more likely than the one saying that they invented the story.
@OlenkaWagner Witnesses must be impartial, which is not the case. One cant be the witness of one's own claim, I COULDNT present myself as a witness that you stole my wallet, could I?
@Arminevh - but in many cases you have only the account of the perpetrator and the victims. Apart from this you have the film showing the post office. It was not just one person telling the story there were other people as well. This kind of crime was not so big to carry out investigation and bring someone to the court. But it is unlikely that the story was invented. The only question is the scale and whether is was just showing frustration or part of some plan of humilliating the islanders.
@OlenkaWagner It is indeed very likely that the story was invented, moreover coming from such well known liars, so if you have nothing but the account of the "victims" and some film which doesnt actually show the "perpetrator", with great joy and amusement I declare this "case" closed.
@Eddieposted - but the fact is they did not kill any of the civillians. Things you are describing were very disgusting, but the fact was no one was killed or severely mistreated (I mean any irreversible health damage).
What I ve noticed on youtube is that few people know the basic facts and figures of this conflict and less people understand this war. For example most of the British think they were outnumbered, which means they dont know they sent 28000 men and Argentina 12000 +about 2000 in the continent. Argentines think they lost the war, which is not accurate
No? ok, I' ll tell you, Brits: about 9000 men, Argentines: about 9000 men (+3000 on the other island), 5000 of which didnt even fight. That means that actually 4000 Argentine land troops faced about 7500 British troops, with artillery, sea and air support.Not to mention the fact that we used almost untrained conscripts.
The fact that most Brits think they were outnumbered is because our boys fought like lions despite all the disadvantages.
please also note that until after the battle of Goose green the British had only landed 5 battalions (3 commando brigade) The other three battalions were still en route from the UK in MV QEII
colin, 4000 men were landed at San Carlos and yes, about 5000 more later from QE2, 2) yes we might ve failed to deploy our troops efectively (debatable), but the fact still remains that about 7500 British troops fought against about 4000 Argies.
Anyway you are leaving aside air and naval support, which is incorrect, you cant do that since they were harrasing our troops for a month before the land battles.
Your navy and harriers did fight in that war, our navy DIDNT, so you cant leave them aside, Im afraid. therefore 28000 Brits fought against about 5000 Argies, who virtually destroyed your fleet, you can say what you want about our leadership, but you cant say you were outnumbered, as it is clear.
About the jets, we sent waves of 6 (armed only with bombs) against 34 Harriers, land defensess and your entire high tech fleet, so what about them?
so if your navy didnt fight how come the british sank the belgrano, the santa fe, the narwal etc etc?
and while we are about it how come the carrier lauched a failed attack on our tasjk force if they didnt fight?
and why do you count all the british personnell (including those on ascesion) and yet refuse to count the combat troops on east falkland never miond the airforce and naval personnel on the mainland argentina?
Most of these forces were moved to Stanley and the continent by the lasts days of the war and subsequently didnt fight, thats why a less number of them were captured after the war had finished.
The fact that they were moved means they were available to fight on east falkland and cannot therefore be counted as unavailable and should be included in the argentine strength.
Th fact that the argentine leadership chose not to use them is neither here nor there
Sure, the Argentine strenght were 12000 men, counting chefs, medics, mechanics, logistics, radar operators, military police, etc that is all that non combatant personel you also had in the ships and who had an indirect paper in the battle.
I beg you to release me from giving you the sources, as far as I know they are not available in English and i dont feel like going to the net searching other sources. As any human I might be wrong sometimes, but I dont usually lie.
"Sure, the Argentine strenght were 12000 men, counting chefs, medics, mechanics, logistics, radar operators, military police, etc that is all that non combatant personel you also had in the ships and who had an indirect paper in the battle."
sure all on ships.
where was the field hospital?
thats right east falkland.
who ferried the injured ? 16 field ambulance and the commando forces band
who supplied the front line troops? the commando logistics regiment
Seeing your comments i now know why you lost the war.Your so deluded,i understand you have to be because the truth that you lost a war and lost it badly is hard.Your facts are so wide of the mark i do not know where to begin.The U.S.A. never supplied any troops(unlike you who asked Peru and Venazula for help.We destroyed your best warship,you lost 21 aircraft in air to air combat we lost NONE.You could not find our subs even the one that sunk your cruiser-PATHETIC OR WHAT!!! just accept defeat.
dany, boy you dont have that oil yet, havent you? besides strategic place? lol you probably meant a place to run to when your muslims friends finish destroying your country.
bannon, 630 Arg died in that war, not 777, 323 by a stab in the back, however you are right in one thing, you won the war with the Germans just like you "beat" us, with the help of US, the international comunity and in this case even with chilean help, I RELLY WOULDNT LIKE TO BE IN YOUR SHOES! XD
@Arminevh - Zzzzzzzz! the USA didnt supply asny troops or weapons in 1982 - what we had was what we bought on the open market, just as FRANCE supplied argentina with mirage, super etarndart and exocet. Without FRANCE you wouldnt have sunk one ship!! ARE YOU FRENCH????!!!!!
You perfectly know that what you are saying is just rubbish, a brazen lie, you were HEAVILY HELPED by the Americans, chileans, etc while France broke the contract they made with us before knowing anything about that affaire, they didnt even give us the codes for the Exocets, so we were able to use them just because of our skills.
@Arminevh - Zzzzzzzzz! you say the same old shit on each page but can never proove that the USA helped the UK in anyway! I've workedin the falklands 3 times and theres NO evidence of any american equipment, documentation, personel etc at all. I've also worked on american air bases in the UK and in Germany and i can tell you the americans leave a lot of stuff to continue to use when they pull out. Again, you're just dreaming up an argument thats not substantial.
Chelty! mate! I am really concerned about you, no evidence is needed when the Americans themselves have said that they helped you a lot and when Tatcher herself thanked Pinochet for his "invaluable help", however there is nothing wrong with that since it would ve been simply imposible for you (and for anyone)to invade again those isles without their help.
@Arminevh - the only help we received was in the form of intellegence - you seem to imply that it was american and chilean forces and equipment that won battles!! If you want to argue like that, then I would say that the equipment and armanents argentina received from France was WAY more useful than the limited intel we recieved from chile or USA!!! Without france you had no real weapons!!!
Lets not confuse things here, we made a good use of the French missiles no dubt, but they didnt HELP us, on the contrary, THEY ABANDONED US, they refused to give us the codes, so it was as if they had gave us nothing!!! while the Americans not only gave you info but sidewinders, stingers, supplies etc AND THIS IS VERY WELL KNOWN! also the chileans pressed the border to help you.
However I dont mean that your forces werent good, just that you Britons tend to exagerate and lie about that war.
@Arminevh - " this is very well known!" - REALLY??? what we had is what we bought on the open market..... SAME as what argentina got from FRANCE!! your argument is like me saying "but Arminevh, France ALSO supplied the pilots to fly the mirage and super etarndart and to fire the french exocet... they also supplied french special forces!!!" - we all know they didnt, but i could argue its WELL KNOWN!!!!! its the same thing - no evidence and only say so, propaganda!
@Arminevh - dear oh dear!!!! please keep taking your special medication my friend!! We can argue over many things (and most of your argument you cannot provide any evidence) - but one thing thats beyond any argument is that the Union Jack flies over Stanley and the Islands, whether YOU like it or not, are indeed BRITISH!!!!
This is ALL that matters, as misguided argentinians who claim the islands as their own, dont really matter - theres nothing there or their government can do about it!!!
arminevh how can u say we had nothing to gain ? lol we just found billions worth of oil under them lol + it gives the british army a good strategic place on the globe. if they r so worthless then y did your country make such a fuss over them, every1 on them wants to be british end of.
Pearl Harbour an excuse are you for real????We won the war with the Germans just like we BEAT YOU.Your submarine Santa Fe was destroyed how many subs did we loose???NONE You lost your most powerful warship the Belgrano how many aircraft carriers did we lose?None,777 of your forces dead 248 our ours-Reality check-people are reading your responses and howling you sound ridicolous but please every one dont be too harsh please remember THEY ARE ARGENTINAN..ITS PITY AND SYMPATHY THEY NEED NOT MOCKING
I would add that we sunk your most powerful warship and in typical cowardly action your navy returned to port never to been seen again.You were the laughing stock of the international world.We, the British have won two world wars and are a very proud people and when throw backs like Argentina try to take the piss we act.The U.K. thrashed you in 3 weeks.Pitching yourself against us was laughable.You need some British PRIDE,DIGNITY AND POWER to be able to lift your head thats bowed in shame!!
Wrong again unfortunate fellow, you were defeated 3 times in Argentine soil (1806 1807 and 1845), you didnt won any world war, the Americans did alongside with the Rusians, French, etc. actually in the ww2 the germans made you cry and licked Americans boots till they decided to save your pathetic arse! XD
Malvinas war means we struck the NATO with non proffessional troops, we made us a great name whether you like it or not.
Every one knows that you cant do anything without US.
I suspect your education system is as useless as your military.For example the USA only entered WW2 when Pearl Harbour was bombed.If you see a country less than half your size travel thousands of miles and thrash you before throwing you out of an islands as a source of pride then you need help.I am wondering what i am doing communicating with some one from Argentina i mean with out being rude your not in the class of the U.K.The Brits just smashed you.Thats why we are called GREAT BRITAIN.
I m not in the class of the UK!? what a relief! thank you! Anyway Pearl Harbour was an excuse to enter the war so you would stop crying outloud, had the Americans refused to take any part in it, you would be speaking german by now.
So, is that what you are called "great" Britain? then my poor fellow you didnt realise the irony involved in that expresion XD
wher is part 3,5,6 ? they missed out the part wher argentinas army waved white flags to surrender then shot at the troops as they went to capture them
everytime i watch a Falklands video i see comments from argo's whining about it being their islands ... well heads up , you went to war over them AND LOST ... deal with it !!!!
The important thing to remember is that free people won a war against a brutal dictator who oppressed his own citizens. As an American I'm proud to have the UK as an ally.
I'll never understand this war. Altough it's great the brittish won, strategically argentina could have flown in endless supplies of men from nearby, while it would take the brittish months to get there. There were also surprisingly few KIA's on both sides when they surrendered. Either their government was divided and not really behind the war, or argentinians are one weak people..
It was more complicated than that. Anyway the NATO lost a lot more than in any other modern war, and just for two tiny things in the middle of nowhere. So you can hardly call us "weak".
We wouldnt risk our war ships or proffesional troops for penguinland!
I'm sure it was more complicated and I'm definitely not an expert on the matter. However if i'm not mistaken you guys invaded the islands right? So why not risk your professional troops then, it's a bit contradictory. It's true the islands are rough nature, but seismology has revealed a lot of oil in its surroundings, that would be the economic explanation.
It seems contradictory to you because you dont understand that on our side the war was not meant to be won militarily but to show the world that in the future any other atempt to invade our territory wont be for free. We faced the NATO and what did we lose? an old ship and some old fighters. The Brits lost high tech ships, fighters, helis and proffesional troops and what did they get? two rocks in the middle of nowhere.
Your theory is quite interesting. Most comments I have heard (from both sides as well as neutral commentators) that the idea was to take the islands (hoping that Britain would not risk any war and some diplomatic solution could be found). Now, you say it was not the purpose.
When I say "theory" it does not imply it is not true. Truth is a very philosophical concept. In science there are only theories that can be verified or falcified.
There is a difference between truth in a common language and in science. BTW. In the film there is something confirming "my theory" we discussed before. 3:09
This is a British documental which only confirms that they are a bunch of liars. When they entered Port Stanly, the Arg forces had surrendered, so obviously they only needed 2/3 of their forces, besides in those 8400 men they are counting logistics and non combatant people, so if they do so I could say that those 8400 men surrendered to 28000 Brits! however you do the counting, we were outnumbered provided you do it WITH JUSTICE.
OK, so I can see the problem now. The author of the documentary counts only the British taking and securing the Argentine surrender. I suspect you do not like this documentary
Second round just because of some people telling lies? Isn't that overreaction? Talking about a second round - I think both sides are better prepared, which allows us to hope there will be no second round. BTW. Watch the document. It is a litte biased (looks as if made just after the war), but it is interesting. I am interested in your comments.
Do you mean like Vietnam and Corea? Because in the Falklands it wasnt us who lost 2/3 of the high tech fleet just for two little things full of frozen penguins.
You argies have no arguement? we punished you on your door step when you completely out numberd us. well at least we can humiliate your country even more now we have found all that oil there. :)
No you lost a lot more.We thrashed you,your own people rioted when we won.You lost almost twice as many troops etc but the biggest loss was;You lost face,DIGNITY AND PRIDE.YOU WERE LEFT SQUASHED AND HUMILIATED.I THINK THE FACT THAT THIS IS O.K. WITH YOU SAYS IT ALL!!!! The lack of pride and spine is one of the reasons we thrashed you!!!!
hahaha you couldnt be more wrong mate!!! your forces had terrible loses considering what they gained, militarily speaking we didnt lose anything of importance and the world only speaks about our glorious air force sinking and damaging your high tech NATO ships one after another. In fact your forces were very lucky that we are not the kind of people who would kill 28000 men just for two rocks full of penguins.
It is difficult to take some one like you seriously.I tend to pity how detached you are from REALITY.The facts are you lost over twice as many troops as we did,threw every aircraft you had at us.And STILL you could not beat an army that had travelled for weeks over thousands of miles!!Your country was humiliated and disgraced and beaten by the U.K. If that is success to you then it possibly explains why your a poor insignificant country even today and the Brits we are a world leader.
But you forgot other ships, we destroyed 8 and damaged others and you will be able to hear in "falklands war, how close to defeat" part 4 the effect it had on your comanders. However I think you didnt understand that I had replied a specific coment, so I meant a diferent thing.
OK 8 if you include a landing craft from HMS Fearless. However our commanders were professional and determined. It was not enough to change the course of events.
Mas me emosiono al ver que nuestros soldados combatieron con un ejercito disciplinado y de años de guerras como el Britanico , y al cual les causaron perdidas de material belico por millones y muchas vidas humanas .
after the marines surrendered the paras where first in to help the marines and there not even getting mentioned that much here even though they done most of the hard fighting!
The Royal marines Didnt surrender gov Rex Hunt ordered them to. And i think it was Major Mike Norman who said "I'm releived he made the decision. because i wouldn't of"
Did you Argentine's watch part 7? You vandalized the buildings and left human waste on the floor. You put cannons in school yards. You acted like animals in the Falklands.
I find what the Argentine troops did to the Post Office, turning it into a latrine, a fitting example of why they shouldn't get the islands. They siesed control of it for thier pride, and then just pissed on the resident's lives, in this case quite literally. If they really want to absorb and assimilate the islands, try improving thier lives, not taking a dump on them. Argentina turned the Falklands into a shithole, why would anybody want that? Stop crapping on the island and go home yourself.
Don't feel sorry for them. Think about it, these "soldiers are no more than followers. Why should UK have any thing to do with Falklands. But these overgrown boys who have a man's body but a child's mind want entertainment. Without army these "soldiers" won't survive in real world.
What are you waffling on about?????? I could get all your brains in a thimble and still have room for my thumb.....say wooooow . Ijust bet you voted for Obama with rhetoric like that. Some of those "boys' were friends of mine by the way.
OK if there was a way we can prove who is smarter of us we would do that. But on here you are probably as smart as anyone. Shut up and just think, a Soldier's motto is - Follow the order no matter what. I have an Army father who was excellent when he was in Army - Medals, Three wars, Served on Siachen for 6 years, , but when he came to real world he was a failure. Cause in real world you have to think
You havent got a clue ,perhaps your dad was just stupid, he certainly passed it on to you at any rate. I served in the army and since leaving have done very well for myself. The army teaches you to be self sufficient and to think for your self you dumb ass. How come you were in an army family and failed to grasp that?
I agree we shouldn't be jingoistic about this. Brave men died on both sides, and that isn't a thing to celebrate. Having said that, as a Brit I'm glad the victory went our way. It was a closer run thing than many care to admit.
And once more, the racist cunts argue with each other. Unless you fought in that war, shut the fuck up. Why should a Briton be able to claim he is a better person than an Argentine or vice versa just because another Briton won a war? None of these men died so you could do this, they must be turning in their graves. You lot have no right to boast of victory because another man did a brave thing.
matthew220891 have a look at the definition of racism vs xenophobia. Secondly, how can you possiby know the motivation and thoughts of the British soilders? Thirdly, I can boast of a victory because it was my countrymen who did the brave things, it was my nation that would not allow other people to invaded by a dictatorship which killed thousands of its own citizens. Lastly, in your life do you not boast of a victory when your football teams wins? You were not playing so shut the fuck up.
I am not comparing War and Football Stick0rz. I am making the point that in matthew220891's opinion if you were not in the war you cannot make comment. If this is the case how can you ever comment on or have an opinion on anything if you never participated in? As Football is a common sport played around the world, I used it as a specfic example not as a direct analogy.
matthew your very opinionated did you ever fight or even serve in the Forces ?,No your probably just some lefty student who just sits on his arse all day smoking pot slagging off people who support thier own Brave soldiers-i suggest you shut the fuck up ,its a nasty world outside them student digs he he
Midazone "what war have they(britain) ever been a serious player in?" scroll to the top of this page (remember that video you watched earlier) thats one for start silly.
midaszone is not a Canadian. he's a person who hates Britain and our allies. He's delibretly trying to cause trouble. midaszone shame on you. Britain has shared its blood many occasions to keep the world free, and we will continue to do so. So heres a big fat up yours from me and Britain. V
Midaszone, we won in north africa, and also we played a mjor part in world war 1 and 2, aswell as the falklands and both gulf wars and now afghanistan
looks to me its your country that cant defend itself
jaja ..! was a war, not tea of 5, ignorant.! Arrested on video to 3:43, these are after Argentinian troops from combat, intact, but ordered to surrender by the U.S. nuclear threat ... you got no shame, dirty English!
Actually i read the notes and quotes from the Argie general Mendez. He surrendered because his officers were shit and all his troops had crapped themselves. haha nuclear threat from america hahaha we got our own nukes and we don't need them. Argies are too scared to fight a real military.
Actually i take that back. there troops did show some bravery under fire. However they were conscripts and should not of been there in the first place. Not real combat troops.
If so, also nuetros conscript soldiers fought with courage. We are proud of that. The Malvinas are Argentine more now, because, those who died waiting
all masterful good... but I consider situation of colonialism on the part of Great Britain and others in different parts from the globe I amiably urge and them to finish with this... upon all now want to extend the marine platform to 500 miles that implicaria almost to touch our continent and simultaneously it serves to them as pretext for future antarctic interests. It is not enough to them to the European with the slaughters initiated in the Americas by the end of the 1400
You know it might help if Argentines didn't believe hysterical nonsense written in Clarin. There is no intention to extend territory by 500 miles or to extend the Falklands EEZ into Argentine waters. The law of the sea is quite specific, doesn't allow that and the British haven't done it. All that is happened is that Britain is required by the Law of the Sea Convention to make a claim before a deadline expires. Its done that but it has no other significance.
You know that geographically the islands belong to us, beyond history. And they have well-taken care of that we will return sooner or later, a modern society does not admit no form of colonialism. They give back the colonies of äfrica, rock of Gibraltar, etc. Pirates!
Nope, geographic proximity is no argument. St Pierre and Miquelon are French islands 12 miles off the coast of Canada. They are culturally and linguistically different and identify with France. Geographical proximity would not justify their annexation by Canada, nor would a democratic nation like Canada even consider it. Historically the arguments are even weaker.
Britain no longer has any colonies, what remains are self-governing overseas territories, where the inhabitants wish to retain the status quo. They govern themselves but relay on the UK for defence and foreign relations. Britain is already committed to granting independence if it is requested. In the case of the Falklands the population has overwhelmingly rejected transfer to Argentina, and in Gibraltar to Spain.
hopfuly argentina will exept that the falklands will be ours 4ever and that it is pointless to try and take it, try sicking to trading with us and leave the concuring to the world powers
This is not an anti-Argentine comment; but you have to realise that the junta in power at the time was a murderous, nasty regime that killed thousands of its own countrymen and used torture as a means of practice. The Falklands were inhabited by citizens of a democratic state. You honestly cannot think that we would have left them to the whims of Galtieri and his thugs? It is terrible that so many Argentine young men lost their lives...but that is war.
(first: sorry 4 my english )look my friend about teh regime you have the reason, the war was a wrong way to claim something that is legitim very important for us .. Malvinas is a deep felling for us ...and don´t forget that GB stelt the islands to us when my nation were in "daipers" ...and in my opinion the colonialism is anocronic.
Look, you make a fairish point about colonialism I suppose. But don't you think you should be appreciating the other point, too (the right to self-determination)? It overrides the 'colonial' view. The Falklanders have every right to choose. If your regime hadn't invaded (supported by you Argentines, btw), there would be a treaty by now that reflected the wishes of both Argentina and the Falklanders. Rather like Gibraltar. So, it's YOUR country's fault there probably never will be one now. Good!
Colonialism an anachronism, so its ironic that Argentina seeks to colonise the Falklands against the wishes of the islanders. The claim is entirely manufactured and contrary to Argentine propaganda was only really revived in the 1930s. The islands weren't "stolen" either, the Argentine "claim" is on very dodgy ground - which is why the Argentine Government has never been too keen to test it in court. Its refused three time to take it to the ICJ.
The british army will always be the best in the world, maybe not for their numbers or their ability to follow orders but for the simple fact they are real men, who even being fired upon by the enemy will always treat prisoners/enemy with honor and respect.
This war was from a time when men were REAL MEN, todays wars in Iraq its technology that wins wars, armies like the USA have no respect or honor for the people they are fighting against and are even heard of mocking and degrading prisoners.
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@Eddieposted - ok, I know it was pretty widespread, but it was a planned strategy to humiliate the islanders or a spontanous action commanding officers were unable or maybe not willing enough to prevent?
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@Eddieposted - I was rather thinking on putting guns near civillian accomodation, As far as things you were described - do you think it was a part of a strategy or just some soldiers/officers wanted to express they anger/frustration/sense of power or whatever?
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@Eddieposted - I guess that putting booby traps could be a part of defence strategy (this does not justify is at all). But do you think making houses dirty and intimidating the islanders was any part of a bigger strategy or just actions of individual soldiers/officers who were not supervised enough by their superiors? I know any more drastic actions were forbidden.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner And whats the proof of all that load of crap they say? because a kelper said so? because a briton said so? how do we know if it wasnt actually them who made the houses dirty and then filmed to try to incriminate their enemies?
Arminevh 1 year ago
@Arminevh - But what would be the purpose of doing so? The film was made and reports recorded after the surrender, so the British or the islanders were not interested in presenting the occupation worse than it was. The war (and propaganda war as well) was over that time.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner The purpose is very clear they DID need to present the occupation worse than it was. So far the Argentines had recovered their islands without killing anyone, they had not killed or seriously mistreated any islander, they had respected their property and whereas the british were to take the islands at ANY cost, the Argentines actually tried to protect them etc.
By and large the behaviour of the Argentines had been quite decent so they DID need to make us look bad.....
Arminevh 1 year ago
@Arminevh - But why it was necessary after the surrender? The British cost was not so high (of course any loss of life is tragic) to present the occupation worse than it was to justify the intervention.
Another thing is that if there had been any attempt to fake the evidence of making houses dirty etc. - there would appear people that would tell about this by that time. Nothing of this sort has ever happened.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner The cost for the British was indeed too high considering that Argentina did nothing but a token effort to defend their islands, however that has nothing to do with them trying to make us look bad, they had no other thing to blame us for, since even Hastings and Jenkins (and others) said the Argentine behaviour was quite decent, in fact they never mentioned those lies....
Arminevh 1 year ago
@Arminevh - the description of Argentine behaviour as decent was because they did not kill or inficted irreversible health damage to any civilian. But that does not exclude the cases described in the movie.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner You know, I know and my dog knows that one needs more than that to be described as decent, and that decent Argentine behaviour described by people such as Hastings and jenkins does exclude lies described in the film.
Arminevh 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner But in any case the question still remains, whats the proof of all that rubbish? because they say so? people who have murdered, enslaved, tortured and stolen pacific people all over the world, even irish, Scottish and Welsh SAY SO!? I am afraid I do need more than their word......
Arminevh 1 year ago
@Arminevh - if many people say the same it is unlikely to think that they were lying. The post office has actually been shown so this is more substantial evidence. Of course anything could be denied (like the Moon Landing is denied by some people), but I simply think that the hypothesis that the islanders were telling the truth iis more likely than the one saying that they invented the story.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner what "substantial evidence"? because a kelper said so? because a briton said so? because of a film that could very well be fake?
AGAIN, whats the proof for all this load of rubbish? because my dear woman, you really dont have a case with that "substantial evidence" of yours....
Arminevh 1 year ago
@Arminevh - the relations of many witnesses and the film IS EVIDENCE. Now you should prove conspiracy in producing fake evidence.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner Witnesses must be impartial, which is not the case. One cant be the witness of one's own claim, I COULDNT present myself as a witness that you stole my wallet, could I?
So AGAIN, whats the PROOF for all this rubbish?
Arminevh 1 year ago
@Arminevh - but in many cases you have only the account of the perpetrator and the victims. Apart from this you have the film showing the post office. It was not just one person telling the story there were other people as well. This kind of crime was not so big to carry out investigation and bring someone to the court. But it is unlikely that the story was invented. The only question is the scale and whether is was just showing frustration or part of some plan of humilliating the islanders.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner It is indeed very likely that the story was invented, moreover coming from such well known liars, so if you have nothing but the account of the "victims" and some film which doesnt actually show the "perpetrator", with great joy and amusement I declare this "case" closed.
Arminevh 1 year ago
@Eddieposted - but the fact is they did not kill any of the civillians. Things you are describing were very disgusting, but the fact was no one was killed or severely mistreated (I mean any irreversible health damage).
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
these guys were tran shit like us, only that they had more ammo ARRIBA LAS CABEZAS CARAJOOO!! not lower the head, shit!
Frankdanny51 1 year ago
well theres a lesson for all nations,
Britain hits back and we hit back HARD
dumbass argentines
IanWiiPlayer 1 year ago
@Eddieposted pussy you have put in your ass by your bicht queen, fucking boy george, again fuck yourself faggot
simeagarran 1 year ago
@Eddieposted go fuck yourself
simeagarran 1 year ago
fuck England!!! Mavinas Argentinas
British Go your Home!!
Volveremos!!
martinguess 1 year ago
¡Viva el 7 de Lujio de 20051
Vayansé malditos ingleses de tierras argentinas.
Las malvinas son nuestras.
Volveremos.
jikk2008 1 year ago
What I ve noticed on youtube is that few people know the basic facts and figures of this conflict and less people understand this war. For example most of the British think they were outnumbered, which means they dont know they sent 28000 men and Argentina 12000 +about 2000 in the continent. Argentines think they lost the war, which is not accurate
Arminevh 2 years ago
I dont lack that Knowledge I was
brendancoul 2 years ago
Arminevh
the british ground troops were outnumbered.
the argentines did lose the war
colinbellgenius 2 years ago
colinbell (we'll see about the rest XD)
Would you be so kind as to tell me how many ground troops did the British have and how many Argentines?
Arminevh 2 years ago
No? ok, I' ll tell you, Brits: about 9000 men, Argentines: about 9000 men (+3000 on the other island), 5000 of which didnt even fight. That means that actually 4000 Argentine land troops faced about 7500 British troops, with artillery, sea and air support.Not to mention the fact that we used almost untrained conscripts.
The fact that most Brits think they were outnumbered is because our boys fought like lions despite all the disadvantages.
Arminevh 2 years ago
sorry only just read your first reply.
The british landed 8 battallions (2 brigades) of infantry, Each battalion is 650 men plus support of 2000 men (artillery, medics etc).
total argentine prisoners at end of conflict 11313.
60 from south georgia
572 from west falkland
leaving 10681 on east falkland
the fact that you failed to deploy your troops effectively (hence 4000 did not fight) does not mean they did not outnumber the British.
colinbellgenius 2 years ago
please also note that until after the battle of Goose green the British had only landed 5 battalions (3 commando brigade) The other three battalions were still en route from the UK in MV QEII
colinbellgenius 2 years ago
colin, 4000 men were landed at San Carlos and yes, about 5000 more later from QE2, 2) yes we might ve failed to deploy our troops efectively (debatable), but the fact still remains that about 7500 British troops fought against about 4000 Argies.
Anyway you are leaving aside air and naval support, which is incorrect, you cant do that since they were harrasing our troops for a month before the land battles.
Arminevh 2 years ago
4000 troops original landing
3200 subsequently
against 10,000+ argentines. The fact that only 4000 fought is down to poor leadership and in no way means the british were not outnumbered.
I left out the air and naval support because you did as well.
Should we look at the 20 fast jets operated by the British and 200 operated by the argentine air force.
colinbellgenius 2 years ago
Your navy and harriers did fight in that war, our navy DIDNT, so you cant leave them aside, Im afraid. therefore 28000 Brits fought against about 5000 Argies, who virtually destroyed your fleet, you can say what you want about our leadership, but you cant say you were outnumbered, as it is clear.
About the jets, we sent waves of 6 (armed only with bombs) against 34 Harriers, land defensess and your entire high tech fleet, so what about them?
Arminevh 2 years ago
so if your navy didnt fight how come the british sank the belgrano, the santa fe, the narwal etc etc?
and while we are about it how come the carrier lauched a failed attack on our tasjk force if they didnt fight?
and why do you count all the british personnell (including those on ascesion) and yet refuse to count the combat troops on east falkland never miond the airforce and naval personnel on the mainland argentina?
colinbellgenius 2 years ago
1)The Belgrano and Santa Fe were sunk at the beginning, the Belgrano actually out of the war zone, the rest were small civilian cargo vessels.
2)The attack you mentioned were attempted with fighters, not ships.
3)And then we would have to count all those americans and chileans also involved in your side.
However you do the counting, we were very outnumbered, provided you do it with justice.
Anyway i hope you dont think that I doubt about your professionalism, for in the end yu have the isles
Arminevh 2 years ago
"However you do the counting, we were very outnumbered, provided you do it with justice."
no you were not.
no matter how many times you repeat this lie it will not be true
colinbellgenius 2 years ago
Britain had 34 Harrier aircraft against Argentinas 220 Jet Fighters!
America Navy and government considerd the winning of the war by Britain "Military impossibility" because Britain was outnumberd and out gunned.
But Britain won the war in less than 2 months.
athleticguyUK 2 years ago
so where are your figures from?
my figures are from the MOD and the numbers of prisoners taken at he surrender. As this was monitored by the red cross it would seem fairly accurate
hence only 572 on west falkland. Where does your figure of 3000 from?
colinbellgenius 1 year ago
colinbell, West Falkland (for you):
8th Infantery Regiment, about 600 men
5th Infantery Reg, idem
9th Engineers company, about 100 men
3rd combat engineers company, idem
Naval and Air components, etc
Most of these forces were moved to Stanley and the continent by the lasts days of the war and subsequently didnt fight, thats why a less number of them were captured after the war had finished.
Arminevh 1 year ago
Thats fair enough Arm.
whats the source of that data.
The fact that they were moved means they were available to fight on east falkland and cannot therefore be counted as unavailable and should be included in the argentine strength.
Th fact that the argentine leadership chose not to use them is neither here nor there
colinbellgenius 1 year ago
Sure, the Argentine strenght were 12000 men, counting chefs, medics, mechanics, logistics, radar operators, military police, etc that is all that non combatant personel you also had in the ships and who had an indirect paper in the battle.
I beg you to release me from giving you the sources, as far as I know they are not available in English and i dont feel like going to the net searching other sources. As any human I might be wrong sometimes, but I dont usually lie.
Arminevh 1 year ago
"Sure, the Argentine strenght were 12000 men, counting chefs, medics, mechanics, logistics, radar operators, military police, etc that is all that non combatant personel you also had in the ships and who had an indirect paper in the battle."
sure all on ships.
where was the field hospital?
thats right east falkland.
who ferried the injured ? 16 field ambulance and the commando forces band
who supplied the front line troops? the commando logistics regiment
not to mentioned the engineers
colinbellgenius 1 year ago
colin, mate forgive me, you are right, part in the ships and part on land.
Arminevh 1 year ago
Seeing your comments i now know why you lost the war.Your so deluded,i understand you have to be because the truth that you lost a war and lost it badly is hard.Your facts are so wide of the mark i do not know where to begin.The U.S.A. never supplied any troops(unlike you who asked Peru and Venazula for help.We destroyed your best warship,you lost 21 aircraft in air to air combat we lost NONE.You could not find our subs even the one that sunk your cruiser-PATHETIC OR WHAT!!! just accept defeat.
bannon1000 2 years ago
dany, boy you dont have that oil yet, havent you? besides strategic place? lol you probably meant a place to run to when your muslims friends finish destroying your country.
bannon, 630 Arg died in that war, not 777, 323 by a stab in the back, however you are right in one thing, you won the war with the Germans just like you "beat" us, with the help of US, the international comunity and in this case even with chilean help, I RELLY WOULDNT LIKE TO BE IN YOUR SHOES! XD
Arminevh 2 years ago
@Arminevh - Zzzzzzzz! the USA didnt supply asny troops or weapons in 1982 - what we had was what we bought on the open market, just as FRANCE supplied argentina with mirage, super etarndart and exocet. Without FRANCE you wouldnt have sunk one ship!! ARE YOU FRENCH????!!!!!
cheltcanary 2 years ago
You perfectly know that what you are saying is just rubbish, a brazen lie, you were HEAVILY HELPED by the Americans, chileans, etc while France broke the contract they made with us before knowing anything about that affaire, they didnt even give us the codes for the Exocets, so we were able to use them just because of our skills.
Arminevh 2 years ago
@Arminevh - Zzzzzzzzz! you say the same old shit on each page but can never proove that the USA helped the UK in anyway! I've workedin the falklands 3 times and theres NO evidence of any american equipment, documentation, personel etc at all. I've also worked on american air bases in the UK and in Germany and i can tell you the americans leave a lot of stuff to continue to use when they pull out. Again, you're just dreaming up an argument thats not substantial.
cheltcanary 2 years ago
Chelty! mate! I am really concerned about you, no evidence is needed when the Americans themselves have said that they helped you a lot and when Tatcher herself thanked Pinochet for his "invaluable help", however there is nothing wrong with that since it would ve been simply imposible for you (and for anyone)to invade again those isles without their help.
Arminevh 2 years ago
@Arminevh - the only help we received was in the form of intellegence - you seem to imply that it was american and chilean forces and equipment that won battles!! If you want to argue like that, then I would say that the equipment and armanents argentina received from France was WAY more useful than the limited intel we recieved from chile or USA!!! Without france you had no real weapons!!!
cheltcanary 2 years ago
Lets not confuse things here, we made a good use of the French missiles no dubt, but they didnt HELP us, on the contrary, THEY ABANDONED US, they refused to give us the codes, so it was as if they had gave us nothing!!! while the Americans not only gave you info but sidewinders, stingers, supplies etc AND THIS IS VERY WELL KNOWN! also the chileans pressed the border to help you.
However I dont mean that your forces werent good, just that you Britons tend to exagerate and lie about that war.
Arminevh 2 years ago
@Arminevh - " this is very well known!" - REALLY??? what we had is what we bought on the open market..... SAME as what argentina got from FRANCE!! your argument is like me saying "but Arminevh, France ALSO supplied the pilots to fly the mirage and super etarndart and to fire the french exocet... they also supplied french special forces!!!" - we all know they didnt, but i could argue its WELL KNOWN!!!!! its the same thing - no evidence and only say so, propaganda!
cheltcanary 2 years ago
I m sorry chelt but you are really confused mate, you are simply denying what nobody denies. Really, you are making a fool of yourself.
Arminevh 2 years ago
@Arminevh - dear oh dear!!!! please keep taking your special medication my friend!! We can argue over many things (and most of your argument you cannot provide any evidence) - but one thing thats beyond any argument is that the Union Jack flies over Stanley and the Islands, whether YOU like it or not, are indeed BRITISH!!!!
This is ALL that matters, as misguided argentinians who claim the islands as their own, dont really matter - theres nothing there or their government can do about it!!!
cheltcanary 2 years ago
arminevh how can u say we had nothing to gain ? lol we just found billions worth of oil under them lol + it gives the british army a good strategic place on the globe. if they r so worthless then y did your country make such a fuss over them, every1 on them wants to be british end of.
danielmurray923 2 years ago
Pearl Harbour an excuse are you for real????We won the war with the Germans just like we BEAT YOU.Your submarine Santa Fe was destroyed how many subs did we loose???NONE You lost your most powerful warship the Belgrano how many aircraft carriers did we lose?None,777 of your forces dead 248 our ours-Reality check-people are reading your responses and howling you sound ridicolous but please every one dont be too harsh please remember THEY ARE ARGENTINAN..ITS PITY AND SYMPATHY THEY NEED NOT MOCKING
bannon1000 2 years ago
I would add that we sunk your most powerful warship and in typical cowardly action your navy returned to port never to been seen again.You were the laughing stock of the international world.We, the British have won two world wars and are a very proud people and when throw backs like Argentina try to take the piss we act.The U.K. thrashed you in 3 weeks.Pitching yourself against us was laughable.You need some British PRIDE,DIGNITY AND POWER to be able to lift your head thats bowed in shame!!
bannon1000 2 years ago
Wrong again unfortunate fellow, you were defeated 3 times in Argentine soil (1806 1807 and 1845), you didnt won any world war, the Americans did alongside with the Rusians, French, etc. actually in the ww2 the germans made you cry and licked Americans boots till they decided to save your pathetic arse! XD
Malvinas war means we struck the NATO with non proffessional troops, we made us a great name whether you like it or not.
Every one knows that you cant do anything without US.
Arminevh 2 years ago
I suspect your education system is as useless as your military.For example the USA only entered WW2 when Pearl Harbour was bombed.If you see a country less than half your size travel thousands of miles and thrash you before throwing you out of an islands as a source of pride then you need help.I am wondering what i am doing communicating with some one from Argentina i mean with out being rude your not in the class of the U.K.The Brits just smashed you.Thats why we are called GREAT BRITAIN.
bannon1000 2 years ago
I m not in the class of the UK!? what a relief! thank you! Anyway Pearl Harbour was an excuse to enter the war so you would stop crying outloud, had the Americans refused to take any part in it, you would be speaking german by now.
So, is that what you are called "great" Britain? then my poor fellow you didnt realise the irony involved in that expresion XD
Arminevh 2 years ago
Classic true British spirit "IAM JEREMY MOORE IAM SORRY ITS TAKEN 3 WEEKS TO GET HERE"-That says it all!!!!
bannon1000 2 years ago
wher is part 3,5,6 ? they missed out the part wher argentinas army waved white flags to surrender then shot at the troops as they went to capture them
danielmurray923 2 years ago
everytime i watch a Falklands video i see comments from argo's whining about it being their islands ... well heads up , you went to war over them AND LOST ... deal with it !!!!
gloomypete 2 years ago
The important thing to remember is that free people won a war against a brutal dictator who oppressed his own citizens. As an American I'm proud to have the UK as an ally.
josephonwhidbey 2 years ago
I'll never understand this war. Altough it's great the brittish won, strategically argentina could have flown in endless supplies of men from nearby, while it would take the brittish months to get there. There were also surprisingly few KIA's on both sides when they surrendered. Either their government was divided and not really behind the war, or argentinians are one weak people..
boarderviking 2 years ago
It was more complicated than that. Anyway the NATO lost a lot more than in any other modern war, and just for two tiny things in the middle of nowhere. So you can hardly call us "weak".
We wouldnt risk our war ships or proffesional troops for penguinland!
Arminevh 2 years ago
I'm sure it was more complicated and I'm definitely not an expert on the matter. However if i'm not mistaken you guys invaded the islands right? So why not risk your professional troops then, it's a bit contradictory. It's true the islands are rough nature, but seismology has revealed a lot of oil in its surroundings, that would be the economic explanation.
boarderviking 2 years ago
It seems contradictory to you because you dont understand that on our side the war was not meant to be won militarily but to show the world that in the future any other atempt to invade our territory wont be for free. We faced the NATO and what did we lose? an old ship and some old fighters. The Brits lost high tech ships, fighters, helis and proffesional troops and what did they get? two rocks in the middle of nowhere.
About oil, we have plenty in our land.
Arminevh 2 years ago
Your theory is quite interesting. Most comments I have heard (from both sides as well as neutral commentators) that the idea was to take the islands (hoping that Britain would not risk any war and some diplomatic solution could be found). Now, you say it was not the purpose.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
Firstly, it is not a theory, it is the truth, secondly it is what I ve been saying so far.
Politics are not so easy!!! reality is not what you read in books!
Arminevh 2 years ago
When I say "theory" it does not imply it is not true. Truth is a very philosophical concept. In science there are only theories that can be verified or falcified.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
Please read what you are saying, I will give you another chance! anyway thanks for the lesson Karl Popper. LOL
Arminevh 2 years ago
There is a difference between truth in a common language and in science. BTW. In the film there is something confirming "my theory" we discussed before. 3:09
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
This is a British documental which only confirms that they are a bunch of liars. When they entered Port Stanly, the Arg forces had surrendered, so obviously they only needed 2/3 of their forces, besides in those 8400 men they are counting logistics and non combatant people, so if they do so I could say that those 8400 men surrendered to 28000 Brits! however you do the counting, we were outnumbered provided you do it WITH JUSTICE.
Arminevh 2 years ago
OK, so I can see the problem now. The author of the documentary counts only the British taking and securing the Argentine surrender. I suspect you do not like this documentary
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
I didnt see it to be honest, however I understand if it is a little biased, what I dont like is a lie.
Lies could lead to a second round, and in that case we wouldnt send conscripts that time...
Arminevh 2 years ago
Second round just because of some people telling lies? Isn't that overreaction? Talking about a second round - I think both sides are better prepared, which allows us to hope there will be no second round. BTW. Watch the document. It is a litte biased (looks as if made just after the war), but it is interesting. I am interested in your comments.
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
wow.....
excuses all i hear
once again western military proffesionalism kicks the ass of the primitive unrained morons
USMCM249gunner 2 years ago
Do you mean like Vietnam and Corea? Because in the Falklands it wasnt us who lost 2/3 of the high tech fleet just for two little things full of frozen penguins.
Arminevh 2 years ago
You argies have no arguement? we punished you on your door step when you completely out numberd us. well at least we can humiliate your country even more now we have found all that oil there. :)
murray37779 2 years ago
No you lost a lot more.We thrashed you,your own people rioted when we won.You lost almost twice as many troops etc but the biggest loss was;You lost face,DIGNITY AND PRIDE.YOU WERE LEFT SQUASHED AND HUMILIATED.I THINK THE FACT THAT THIS IS O.K. WITH YOU SAYS IT ALL!!!! The lack of pride and spine is one of the reasons we thrashed you!!!!
bannon1000 2 years ago
hahaha you couldnt be more wrong mate!!! your forces had terrible loses considering what they gained, militarily speaking we didnt lose anything of importance and the world only speaks about our glorious air force sinking and damaging your high tech NATO ships one after another. In fact your forces were very lucky that we are not the kind of people who would kill 28000 men just for two rocks full of penguins.
Arminevh 2 years ago
It is difficult to take some one like you seriously.I tend to pity how detached you are from REALITY.The facts are you lost over twice as many troops as we did,threw every aircraft you had at us.And STILL you could not beat an army that had travelled for weeks over thousands of miles!!Your country was humiliated and disgraced and beaten by the U.K. If that is success to you then it possibly explains why your a poor insignificant country even today and the Brits we are a world leader.
bannon1000 2 years ago
Did the argentines get their ass kicked or what, deffo they outnumbered the brits by many times and lay in wait, still got hammered
lukesdaddy100 2 years ago
Did we? so tell me how we sank or damage so many battle ships of one of the most well equiped navy? Laying in wait? I dont think so
Arminevh 2 years ago
2 Type 21 Frigates, 2 Type 42 destroyers, RFA Sir Galahad and the Atantic Conveyor was not enough out of 100 ships in the task force.
You forget to mention your own losses which had a far more significant effect on the Argentine capability than our losses had on us.
flashgrim 2 years ago
But you forgot other ships, we destroyed 8 and damaged others and you will be able to hear in "falklands war, how close to defeat" part 4 the effect it had on your comanders. However I think you didnt understand that I had replied a specific coment, so I meant a diferent thing.
Arminevh 2 years ago
OK 8 if you include a landing craft from HMS Fearless. However our commanders were professional and determined. It was not enough to change the course of events.
flashgrim 2 years ago
lolzz really
albob1o2 2 years ago
es verdad ivanexocet salieron bicecampeones jajajajajajajaja
101622428 2 years ago
HOLA , LO DE BICAMPEONES POR QUE ?
ivanexocet 2 years ago
La primera invacion a Buenos Aires la ganaron no? la segunda? que paso?
piensen en esto giles.
MrTanguito 2 years ago
Mas me emosiono al ver que nuestros soldados combatieron con un ejercito disciplinado y de años de guerras como el Britanico , y al cual les causaron perdidas de material belico por millones y muchas vidas humanas .
ivanexocet 2 years ago
after the marines surrendered the paras where first in to help the marines and there not even getting mentioned that much here even though they done most of the hard fighting!
ConnorFerguson08 2 years ago
The Royal marines Didnt surrender gov Rex Hunt ordered them to. And i think it was Major Mike Norman who said "I'm releived he made the decision. because i wouldn't of"
Jamietran123 2 years ago
07.55 lol
That's what you get you gitano scum!
ryko26 2 years ago 2
Did you Argentine's watch part 7? You vandalized the buildings and left human waste on the floor. You put cannons in school yards. You acted like animals in the Falklands.
Malvinas Argentinas???? Stupido....stupido....
BrownDavidson 2 years ago 12
@BrownDavidson we do not kill civilians, treat them well, you killed three innocent women, do not forget ..
Frankdanny51 1 year ago
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enzo3737 2 years ago
I find what the Argentine troops did to the Post Office, turning it into a latrine, a fitting example of why they shouldn't get the islands. They siesed control of it for thier pride, and then just pissed on the resident's lives, in this case quite literally. If they really want to absorb and assimilate the islands, try improving thier lives, not taking a dump on them. Argentina turned the Falklands into a shithole, why would anybody want that? Stop crapping on the island and go home yourself.
s2k997 2 years ago 2
A thousand mothers sons dead because a politician wanted to keep his job....
maggiethefox 2 years ago
Don't feel sorry for them. Think about it, these "soldiers are no more than followers. Why should UK have any thing to do with Falklands. But these overgrown boys who have a man's body but a child's mind want entertainment. Without army these "soldiers" won't survive in real world.
saywow2002 2 years ago
What are you waffling on about?????? I could get all your brains in a thimble and still have room for my thumb.....say wooooow . Ijust bet you voted for Obama with rhetoric like that. Some of those "boys' were friends of mine by the way.
maggiethefox 2 years ago
OK if there was a way we can prove who is smarter of us we would do that. But on here you are probably as smart as anyone. Shut up and just think, a Soldier's motto is - Follow the order no matter what. I have an Army father who was excellent when he was in Army - Medals, Three wars, Served on Siachen for 6 years, , but when he came to real world he was a failure. Cause in real world you have to think
saywow2002 2 years ago
You havent got a clue ,perhaps your dad was just stupid, he certainly passed it on to you at any rate. I served in the army and since leaving have done very well for myself. The army teaches you to be self sufficient and to think for your self you dumb ass. How come you were in an army family and failed to grasp that?
Saxe333 2 years ago
Maybe he got kicked out.
Maybe he cleaned the toilets.
Or maybe he was in minefield clearance *immitates - holding hands over ears and stamping on the ground with gritted teath* lol
vodkasvictim 2 years ago
Perhaps he fucked you dumb ass mother in the dirtbox you pussy.
Saxe333 2 years ago
me gustaria que GRAN BRETAÑA reconociera que en MALVINAS perdio mas de 1000 hombres y no 255 como dicen . por suerte hay ingleses honesto s .
ivanexocet 2 years ago
shut up you tosser.
Saxe333 2 years ago
Just because your old dad is a failure, don't put every man serving his country in the same box of shit.
eddywtf 2 years ago
I agree we shouldn't be jingoistic about this. Brave men died on both sides, and that isn't a thing to celebrate. Having said that, as a Brit I'm glad the victory went our way. It was a closer run thing than many care to admit.
blert88 2 years ago
im argentino and my uncle die in falklands.
rafaelblancolopes 2 years ago
bad luck,i was there and argentina lost because we were better soldiers on the ground.
gisauto 2 years ago
And once more, the racist cunts argue with each other. Unless you fought in that war, shut the fuck up. Why should a Briton be able to claim he is a better person than an Argentine or vice versa just because another Briton won a war? None of these men died so you could do this, they must be turning in their graves. You lot have no right to boast of victory because another man did a brave thing.
matthew220891 3 years ago
matthew220891 have a look at the definition of racism vs xenophobia. Secondly, how can you possiby know the motivation and thoughts of the British soilders? Thirdly, I can boast of a victory because it was my countrymen who did the brave things, it was my nation that would not allow other people to invaded by a dictatorship which killed thousands of its own citizens. Lastly, in your life do you not boast of a victory when your football teams wins? You were not playing so shut the fuck up.
blitzem2 2 years ago 3
War and football are slightly differently blitzem2...
I agree with mathew220891
Stick0rz 2 years ago
I am not comparing War and Football Stick0rz. I am making the point that in matthew220891's opinion if you were not in the war you cannot make comment. If this is the case how can you ever comment on or have an opinion on anything if you never participated in? As Football is a common sport played around the world, I used it as a specfic example not as a direct analogy.
blitzem2 2 years ago 4
matthew your very opinionated did you ever fight or even serve in the Forces ?,No your probably just some lefty student who just sits on his arse all day smoking pot slagging off people who support thier own Brave soldiers-i suggest you shut the fuck up ,its a nasty world outside them student digs he he
skinnymason 2 years ago 2
Nice reply, excepttttttttttt...guess what. 'Nuff said.
matthew220891 2 years ago
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boludopata 3 years ago
Midazone "what war have they(britain) ever been a serious player in?" scroll to the top of this page (remember that video you watched earlier) thats one for start silly.
chamon24 3 years ago
rule brittannia!
seano322 3 years ago 6
midaszone is not a Canadian. he's a person who hates Britain and our allies. He's delibretly trying to cause trouble. midaszone shame on you. Britain has shared its blood many occasions to keep the world free, and we will continue to do so. So heres a big fat up yours from me and Britain. V
ISHSTFC 3 years ago 3
Midaszone, we won in north africa, and also we played a mjor part in world war 1 and 2, aswell as the falklands and both gulf wars and now afghanistan
looks to me its your country that cant defend itself
kez98 3 years ago 3
Don't Fu*k with Britain in a war.....They love their fighting
chamon24 3 years ago 7
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Except when they're fighting a real army like the Germans who kicked their asses out of France in 1940 and throttled them in N. Africa!
British fighting skill is the most exaggerated myth in history. What war have they ever been a serious player in?
midaszone 3 years ago
Your facts are all wrong my friend.
Ultrasteve1969 3 years ago
oh!please,help my usa,otan,chileIM SHAME PIRATE!
ricardomacgiver29 3 years ago
Touch of the green-eyed monster, midaszone?
tb4911 3 years ago
Esta guerra fué una estupidez de un borracho que nos gobernó, colocado en el poder por USA.
A la mayoría de los argentinos coherentes, nos importa una mierda las islas Malvinas. Igual que a los británicos.
Pero fueron usurpadas por UK cuando en el siglo XIX las gobernaba Argentina. Indiscutible. Son argentinas.
Muchos de los que postean aquí son unos pendejos y no habían nacido en 1982 y no tienen ni puta idea.
Agraviando no honran, sino demuestran lo intolerantes y poco razonables que son.
magolandia1 3 years ago
Sos el tipico pelotudo que se siente argentino con el drogadico de Maradona o con el feo de Messi.
Repito, pelotudo.
pucarabravio 3 years ago
Eres el tipico idiota! no tenes un cerebro!
Das pena.........
reuven2007 3 years ago
US nuclear threat?? You have evidence of that, or is it another Argentine rant?
Why on earth would the British need a US nuclear threat? Have you ever heard of Trident?
TroyaE117 3 years ago
Stop the video at 05:16.
That's Argentine culture at its Malvinas best.
Shit all over the floor, and the contents looted and scattered.
TroyaE117 3 years ago 3
jaja ..! was a war, not tea of 5, ignorant.! Arrested on video to 3:43, these are after Argentinian troops from combat, intact, but ordered to surrender by the U.S. nuclear threat ... you got no shame, dirty English!
elgriego701 3 years ago
Actually i read the notes and quotes from the Argie general Mendez. He surrendered because his officers were shit and all his troops had crapped themselves. haha nuclear threat from america hahaha we got our own nukes and we don't need them. Argies are too scared to fight a real military.
slug1822 3 years ago
Respect your thoughts island, a British is nothing more and nothing less than an island with a complex continent.
elgriego701 3 years ago
Actually i take that back. there troops did show some bravery under fire. However they were conscripts and should not of been there in the first place. Not real combat troops.
I still think the officers were shit.
slug1822 3 years ago
If so, also nuetros conscript soldiers fought with courage. We are proud of that. The Malvinas are Argentine more now, because, those who died waiting
elgriego701 3 years ago
No they just made good fertilizer
Saxe333 2 years ago
they were nt all coscripts some of them were argentine marines and special forces
lnm8 2 years ago
that is the worst excuse ive heard from an argie YOU HAD TO SURRENDER BECAUSE AMERICAN NUCLEUR THREAT
lnm8 2 years ago
no de acuerdo
fabivig 3 years ago
all masterful good... but I consider situation of colonialism on the part of Great Britain and others in different parts from the globe I amiably urge and them to finish with this... upon all now want to extend the marine platform to 500 miles that implicaria almost to touch our continent and simultaneously it serves to them as pretext for future antarctic interests. It is not enough to them to the European with the slaughters initiated in the Americas by the end of the 1400
fabivig 3 years ago
You know it might help if Argentines didn't believe hysterical nonsense written in Clarin. There is no intention to extend territory by 500 miles or to extend the Falklands EEZ into Argentine waters. The law of the sea is quite specific, doesn't allow that and the British haven't done it. All that is happened is that Britain is required by the Law of the Sea Convention to make a claim before a deadline expires. Its done that but it has no other significance.
tootiredtobeoriginal 3 years ago
And the Falklands isn't a colony, its a self-governing overseas territory.
tootiredtobeoriginal 3 years ago
You know that geographically the islands belong to us, beyond history. And they have well-taken care of that we will return sooner or later, a modern society does not admit no form of colonialism. They give back the colonies of äfrica, rock of Gibraltar, etc. Pirates!
fabivig 3 years ago
Nope, geographic proximity is no argument. St Pierre and Miquelon are French islands 12 miles off the coast of Canada. They are culturally and linguistically different and identify with France. Geographical proximity would not justify their annexation by Canada, nor would a democratic nation like Canada even consider it. Historically the arguments are even weaker.
tootiredtobeoriginal 3 years ago
Britain no longer has any colonies, what remains are self-governing overseas territories, where the inhabitants wish to retain the status quo. They govern themselves but relay on the UK for defence and foreign relations. Britain is already committed to granting independence if it is requested. In the case of the Falklands the population has overwhelmingly rejected transfer to Argentina, and in Gibraltar to Spain.
tootiredtobeoriginal 3 years ago
volveremos bastards!!!
fabivig 3 years ago
Quick look and no-one from the Brits side feels the need to resort to petty name calling. Speaks volumes doesn't it.
tootiredtobeoriginal 3 years ago 2
Prince Andrew there doing some work while "quite high" apparently. well i'll be damned.
jeffspicoli171182 3 years ago
Freedom Fighters
WhereEaglesDareUK 3 years ago
Britsh freedom fighters
WhereEaglesDareUK 3 years ago
V.O.L.V.E.R.E.M.O.S
bufiexperimento 3 years ago
hopfuly argentina will exept that the falklands will be ours 4ever and that it is pointless to try and take it, try sicking to trading with us and leave the concuring to the world powers
burkesean2890 3 years ago
This is not an anti-Argentine comment; but you have to realise that the junta in power at the time was a murderous, nasty regime that killed thousands of its own countrymen and used torture as a means of practice. The Falklands were inhabited by citizens of a democratic state. You honestly cannot think that we would have left them to the whims of Galtieri and his thugs? It is terrible that so many Argentine young men lost their lives...but that is war.
johnnyl88 3 years ago 3
indeed
soundwave86 3 years ago
(first: sorry 4 my english )look my friend about teh regime you have the reason, the war was a wrong way to claim something that is legitim very important for us .. Malvinas is a deep felling for us ...and don´t forget that GB stelt the islands to us when my nation were in "daipers" ...and in my opinion the colonialism is anocronic.
locoargento 3 years ago
Look, you make a fairish point about colonialism I suppose. But don't you think you should be appreciating the other point, too (the right to self-determination)? It overrides the 'colonial' view. The Falklanders have every right to choose. If your regime hadn't invaded (supported by you Argentines, btw), there would be a treaty by now that reflected the wishes of both Argentina and the Falklanders. Rather like Gibraltar. So, it's YOUR country's fault there probably never will be one now. Good!
ludocrat 3 years ago
Colonialism an anachronism, so its ironic that Argentina seeks to colonise the Falklands against the wishes of the islanders. The claim is entirely manufactured and contrary to Argentine propaganda was only really revived in the 1930s. The islands weren't "stolen" either, the Argentine "claim" is on very dodgy ground - which is why the Argentine Government has never been too keen to test it in court. Its refused three time to take it to the ICJ.
tootiredtobeoriginal 3 years ago
@tootiredtobeoriginal (lol)
I could not have put it better myself - (but wish I had ;)
ludocrat 3 years ago
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Dirty fucking english!
TROPICALWALLAH 3 years ago
black cunt
24918433 3 years ago
where the fuck are you in a terace house in bradford with your chemistry kit,u prick
dirkpike 3 years ago
fuck off all of you
terrisonnn 3 years ago
THANK GOD FOR THE BRITISH ARMY.
GOD BLESS YOU.
Greetings from Chile.
cprobosteuribe 4 years ago
Thank G-D chile is far from the U.S.! we don't your kind in the U.S.! chile=third world country who think they're first! what a joke!
reuven2007 4 years ago
dictionary: america- two contenents known as the america
.united states-diffrnt countries united as one in a federal system.
the united states does not have a real name as many countries have ur definition. be more creative like canada
burkesean2890 3 years ago
faklands islands, is situated in Argentine Atlantic ocean,Southamerica.
JavierGuevaraVera 4 years ago
near u like many other counries , but like the other countries it is not part of u
burkesean2890 3 years ago