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  • Beautiful!

    Thanks for the lyrics.

  • very nice video.

  • i like the comedic edge in the arguments they're usually so stupid u cant help but laugh

  • Seems like 17 people need our help

  • ‎"If what's true for you is true for you and what's true for me is true for me, what if my truth says your's is a lie? Is it still true? Come on man! " I luv it!

  • Not a bad song at all!!!!!!!

  • but they dont know the author thay think he a joke

    whats wrong with people

  • I got a luke 9 that can take all 16. That's the Bible, the one they Quote*. =)

  • love this song especially being in a liberal arts degree

  • for those unsure about whether or not jesus is god or whether he lived, check out a book called "the case for christ" where a lawyer explores the evidence for jesus resurrection and writes up his conclusion of how he was certain jesus came back from the dead - and proved to be god

  • Fine but that's boring after so long

  • please stop tying paragraphs to each other and enjoy the music.

  • @FangedLamb there are people whom need saving :) but there is a difference between that  and wasting time in pointless arguments.

  • Really does it really matter maybe Jesus did die for sins maybe not, maybe the bible is a lie maybe it's just a manual me I believe god wanted us to read it and absorb that which is useful and disregard that which is not in the end I'd much rather do my own thing and lead myself into damnation than to blindly follow someone else's lead

  • @TheBladd

    Believe me he died for our sins, you know the one thing you will never no matter how hard you look, the one thing you will never find on this earth is Jesus body, because he died, rose again and then ascended into Heaven, God wants us to read the Bible and accept him into our life so that we won't go into Hell for eternity. I want you to think of someone you hate with a fierce passion, okay Hell is so bad you wouldn't even wish it on that person, none the less yourself.

  • To say the things this person under my comment said proves Lacrae's point peope want to say God doesnt Exist because of the fact the dont want to be responsible on Judgement day wow God Almighty help us plz we need you now more than ever before and to the human being under my post i forgive you for disrespecting Christ and my and my brothers and sisters in CHrist and Ill pray for you

  • @ZennyePDGrayle well that i´d call disrespecting someone. if you have something to say to me than address it to me instead of this shit. you can´t be mad about me disrespecting you then your disrespecting me too. i respect everyone as much as he respects me. and there does my comment prove that point? my comment proves nothing. but if you think i´m one of this half pussy Atheists who thinks "theres no god but an afterlife surely" your dead wrong i am a real atheist. no god=no afterlife

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  • yess,yess,yess,yess

  • at 3:34 I think it's supposed to say crushed not Christ.

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  • Wow is all i have to say.... #Nice and well said... 

  • amazing song :)

  • I'd rather listen to OFWGKTA. This shit sucks.

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  • @GodKillerAtheist We can't "prove" God exists, and we don't need to, because he proves he exists, and we are called to have faith in Him. I find it interesting that you think you have actual proof, were you there when the world was created, or rather, in your belief, were you there to see evolution happen? Did you see fish grow legs and walk on land? Or bacteria turn into trees? You trust science, I trust God, who created science. You did not see macro-evolution happen, it is just a theory

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  • @GodKillerAtheist Isaiah 55:8-9 "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." God is the very reality with which we reckon, he existed before we did, and created this very reality we call existence. Our human minds cannot define God because he is on a whole nother level, God is not defined by man, he can just call himself "I AM"

  • @GodKillerAtheist You are very much welcome to your own opinion on all these matters, but I'd just like to ask sincerely and kindly what your purpose for your argument is, I'm not sure what you have to gain by denying that there is a God, could you explain?

  • BTW on the one I said about you figuring out yourself, maybe you should listen to the song you're on. 3:04 through the end.

  • Make a whole lot of G's not cheese... close tho (:

  • God can best be described by his four attributes: justice, power, wisdom and love. Psalm 89:14 tells us that justice and righteousness are the foundation of God’s thrown while love and faithfulness represent the very essence of his character. The Apostle tells us “God is love” (1 John 4:8). We learn of God’s supreme wisdom and power in Isaiah 55:8-11. “For my thoughts are not your thoughts neither are your ways my ways,” declares the LORD.

  • Jesus is awesome =)

  • Im a 13 yr old muslim n he sad sum truthful stuff!!!!! Dats wats uhp

  • If you used to be a believer and you arent anymore you probably werent to begin with. Turn back and let God show you his Truth, and his Truth will set you free

  • @ndzoko you're taking God's word out of context. Those verses refer to the punishment God intends for the sinners. God is merciful, however, and He sent Jesus to stand between and let "kill them" become "let them repent of their wickedness and come to a God who is Love." Read HOSEA to see how God is a God who wants to be compassionate but will unleash wrath to those who are unfaithful and unrepentant. God's Love is Real. And if you "used to be a believer but aren't anymore" then you probably we

  • cheese.... its G's lol

  • i think at 1:12 he says "thats the one they "quote" not call

  • Its never to late to get on the right path. We can't change what happen in the past but we can make a difference now and make sure it doesn't happen again

  • boast in god not sin!

  • The best part of the song is the part about the problem of evil. Excellent dialectical response.

  • people say god exists because he made everything but no jesus well if this god that made us sais that jesus exists then hes probly telling the truth and considering god is jesus it makes sence and theres all these people trying to act like this life is just a whole bunch on numbers and luck acting like we have no reason to do anything. see people are trying to get to complicated with things i mean just look around, i see jesus in everything and everyone does but people are just trying to be god

  • Oh my god i feel this song so hard I LOOOVEEE YOUU LECRAE

  • I discovered Lecrae yesterday and found this song.

    About 10 minutes ago, a friend and I were talking about other religions, and he said that all truth is relative. I think I quoted almost every word in that part of this song about "truth being relative".

    I am so thankful I found this song. :)

  • all thse rappers say they spray off 16/ i got a luke tha can take all 16

  • "All these rappers say they got guns that spray off 16 / I got a Luke 9 that caN TAKE ALL 16!"

  • StLouisblues2008:Take E.G. that story that thousands rose from the death and wandered through Jerusalem. Do you believe this happened ,yes or no!!

  • @ndzoko Well since Jesus rose from the dead, why couldn't He have raised others as well? I have no proof for or against it, so I'll have to take the word of the historical source that said it happened. All I know for sure is that I have experienced great changes in my life after coming to faith in Christ, and that His central message of unconditional love is greater than any other message I've heard in this world. That's all I have to say, but I am glad we could have a civil discussion.

  • @StLouisBlues2008 No sir, this didn`t happen. There are many reasons why this didn`t happen. Neither did the resurrection of Christ. There are no historical sources giving evidence for this event. And your experiencing great changes after coming to christ, is in no way different from people coming to Allah or to Buddha. People have all kinds of experiences giving them tottally to one philosophy or another. Have a good day.

  • This is an awesome song, can't stop listening to it...there is so much misunderstanding about truth in the world.  And as far as the comment below about God being a killer...nothing could be farther from the truth. He sent the most perfect human who ever lived, Jesus Christ, to die for every sinner (every other human, including you and me) so that we would have eternal life.

  • @StLouisBlues2008 The verses to kill all those people are in your bible. Read it. As for the salvation story, there isn`t a shred of evidence. Why do you think the jews(very versed in scriptures) reading all those (so called ) prophecies, did not acknowledge Jesus as the Messiah ? Because he did not fulfill the prophecies in THEIR holy book.

  • @ndzoko I have read it...the context is that a perfect, holy God can't just tolerate people willfully rebelling against Him forever, and so we deserve death ultimately. But Jesus, the historical figure for whom there is more evidence than almost any other historical figure (ask most historians) died so that people who have done that stuff can be forgiven. Also, read the book of Isaiah (especially chapter 53) and tell me Jesus doesn't fulfill that.

  • @StLouisBlues2008 Do you agree that all those petty trangressors enumerated below deserve the death penalty !! Jesus did not fulfill ANY prophecies. That``s why the jews did not accept him. Your suggestion that the jews expected a liberator from the Romans is just speculation,(not based on any evidence or writings) invented to justify why they rejected Jesus. The prophecy of Isaiah is the first reason why he does not fulfill the prophecies.

  • @ndzoko So the words "He was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed" don't sound like Jesus to you? And it doesn't matter what I believe they deserve, I'm not the perfect creator of the universe. Bottom line is, none of us will live forever, and as for me, I will serve the only God I know that offers mercy to everyone, regardless of what we've done.

  • @StLouisBlues2008 : This is all nice litterature, nice considerations, which in no way point to ONE person in history. Besides where is the peace he brought ? Were is the evidence he was pierced for our transgressions, . There is NO evidence for the salvation story.. Moreover, he was supposed to be called Emmanuel, was he ?? Why didn`t the jews, very versed in scriptures recognise him as THEIR Messsiah ? Because he didn`t fulfill THEIR prophecies in THEIR holy book.

  • @StLouisBlues2008 I will serve the only God I know that offers mercy to everyone, You are kidding!!...Witches, kill them. Homosexuals, kill them.fortunetellers, kill them. those who don`t listen to priests, kill them. those hitting their dad, kill them. those who curse their parents, kill them, adulterers, kill them. fornicators, kill them. people who believe in other religions, kill them. non-believers, false prophets , blasphemers, kill them. those who work on the Sabbath, kill them.

  • @ndzoko Do you know anything about Christianity man? I haven't read all of your posts yet but... You're wrong and you should do your homework. I'm not saying this with attitude and I don't want to argue visciously. I just used to believe just like you and said the same things. untill I figured out that i didn't know anything about Christianity. have you read the Bible? I ask because how can you have any opinion on us and what we believe if you don't have any knowledge of what it is.

  • @ndzoko I don't l want to get in a visciouse argumeant, but do you know anything about the bible? have you read it? Thats a seriouse question. You see I used to be like you, I said the same type of things untill one day I figured out i knew nothing about it.  So I set out to learn about it, so that I could better attack people like you're doing right now. I have study in detail all of the things you have posted so far that I have read and I havent read all of it. But you should too.

  • @ndzoko I am a christian... I have read many books written by mormons, muslims, athiests (I used to be an athiest), and so on and so on. I read both sides. There is soooooo much evidents if you actually look and study. The Bible even says to "prove all things and hold to on to what is good" If the bible didn't make sense i would throw it out. there is no contradictions. if you have one... send it to me. my email is KnuckleBeast@gmail.com. or any other problems you have with what we believe.

  • @ndzoko And also, there is evidence for Jesus rising from the dead...normal people just don't do that. If someone stole Christ's body from the tomb, the Roman guards would have been executed according to their law, and a few broken up disciples with no military training wouldn't have been able to move Him. And if His body was still in the tomb, the Jews would have shown it to everyone who believed in the resurrection. Therefore, we can't explain away the resurrection as a hoax.

  • @StLouisBlues2008 Give me your evidence for the resurrection. Thank you. Is the gospel your evidence !! The resurrection story is more evidence that the salvation story is not true.

  • @ndzoko I've already said why I can't explain away the resurrection, but you can also look to the lives of Jesus' original disciples. They were completely distraught and afraid for their lives in the couple days following the crucifixion, but then they were transformed so almost all of them ultimately died painful deaths for preaching about the resurrection. Why would they do this for a lie? For more evidence, the books "The Case for Christ" and "More than a Carpenter" are good sources.

  • @StLouisBlues2008 You have no evidence for this transformation in the apostles. NONE And their martyrdom(except for one) is almost certain pure fantasy. Those stories about their martyr-death were written about 3 centuries after the (supposed)facts by a bishop Eusebius. Even Christian apologetics sites state, that this reports about the death of the apostles have to be taken with a pinch of salt. The case for Christ(which I read about 8 months ago) contains nothing convincing for me.

  • @ndzoko Also, the Jewish leaders expected the Messiah to be a military leader that would physically save them from the hands of their enemies. They couldn't accept the fact that Jesus was a spiritual leader, hence their opposition to His teachings. Usually when a group of people is out to kill someone who is not inciting violence (Jesus), they are insecure in their beliefs...if the Pharisees really believed Jesus was full of it, they wouldn't have been out to kill him.

  • Nice Song +

  • Wow... this is a GREAT SONG WITH A WONDERFUL MESSGE.... this has truly touched my heart.

  • ‎"All these rappers say they got guns that spray of 16 / I got a Luke 9 that can take all 16 / That's the bible, the one they quote / but they don't care about the author they think he's a joke" Whoaaaa man!!

  • I think, many people are confused about WHY God sends people to hell. What they don't realise is that God doesnt send people to Hell. They send themselves there. Thanks to God, we are free to do as we please, He gave us the choice to believe or not. If He had not given that freedom, we would all be like puppets.

    Don't send yourself to Hell.

    Send yourself to HEAVEN.

  • @dimandgirl1 amen!

  • @TheDragonAssassin

    Thanks. Pity the people arguing don't read it lol

  • 17 people are athiests

  • @chrisvalepranktv perhaps they just didnt enjoy the song??

    

  • People who say God is unfair are correct. God is unfair. He's unfair because if he was fair, we would all be at the mercy of his fury because how ugly with sin we are. However God loves us so much he's willing to be UNFAIR to allow us to get to know him and change our ways. If you think you're going to get anywhere in life without God then you're in for a surprise. This song was great and spoke the truth, God bless this artist.

  • the one they QUOTE @ 1:13

  • seek the truth and the truth shall set u free...its really hard to believe if u r ain't a believer..but let the LORD open the eyes of your heart!!!GBU:))

  • dude this aint a diss but try studying the lyrics more closely before you diecide to upload this video alot of made up lyrics were found and you dont want to stray from the true message that lecrae is trying to create but other than that god bless you

  • this is so true, so true men!

  • Amen this is absolutely correct. How Jesus makes the comparison of murder to calling your neighbor 'raca' WHICH MEANS FOOL or how JESUS compares adultery to Lust. The point are good savior is making is the offense or condition of our heart and mind is the sin. This is why no one is better then the other. We are all balanced at the foot of the cross. The only difference is that we believe in Christ. How humbling

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  • they nede to be at rocknations . i'm sorry i'm from belgium and i'm 14 so my english is'ent verry good

  • @The96dc im 14 too :)

  • aughh this may start some crap, but I'm just putting out my first thought when i heard this song and a lot of other Lecrae's songs....

    I just gotta say that he reminds me of a christian version of Eminem(;

    I dont know, its probably just me....but I had to put that out there(; lol

  • @MellyBell910 haha for realz xD

    

  • YOOO IM LOVIN THIS....

  • what i dont understand is why do people try to bring down people who believe in god, i belive in god and more people than you think do too.how can you tell me that god doesnt exist i feel him and his spirite is in me.you dont see with your eyes your see with your heart but you still use your eyes even when you are blind. show me proof that god doent exist.

  • YOU CANT PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT SIN YOU ARE GOING TO COMMIT ... THE WAGES OF ALLLLLLL SIN IS DEATH SOO EVERYTIME YOUR SINING YOU'RE BLATANLY ASKING TO DIE >>>>>>>>> CHANGE<<<<<<<<<<<

  • YAWLL WITH WHO R CUSSIN NEED TO REPENT THAT IS NOOOTTT WHAT THIS SONG IS TALKING ABOUT SO.... THATS BETWEEN YOU AND GOD

  • This song has such an amazing message in it. I love it. Praise the Lord Almighty! <33

  • I get chill bumps everytime:)

  • all these people cussin eachother out in da comments of this song i mean really u might as well go to a church and start cussin each other out in the middle of praise and worship this song is for u to listen to lecreas message hes tryin to tell u something

  • I love lecrae!

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  • @tresanicole: its that's the Bible the one that they quote

  • i will always love jesus and there is no way u will change my life!!!!!(:

  • I would suggest looking up Lee Strobel and his documentary "Case for the Creator".

    He was an atheist, but he became a Christian after his research. After what he found, he said, "It would actually take more faith for me to remain an atheist."

    Praise be to God that ultimately, even scientifically, his creation points towards His existence!

  • I speak from proof, from experiencing the reality of God's existence through His presence. But the greatest proof of all is that I have a devotion and faith to God that I can not let go of. I didn't instill it in me. My family didn't either. When I believed, repented, and called out to Jesus to save me, His Holy Spirit became a permanent part of my soul. Even if I wanted to, I couldn't stop following God. Nothing can separate me from the Spirit & love of God that is in Christ Jesus- proof.

  • God's word is truth. The goodness and will of God defines truth, just as the design of His hands defines reality. There is only one truth, and Jesus Christ is the bridge to knowing God and to knowing that truth. "For in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God." Jesus is the essence of what is true, the living God in the flesh. For the law of God, the standard of true righteousness, was given through Moses; grace and truth was realized through Jesus Christ.

  • 1:11 - 1:13

    says: Thats the bible the on they "QUOTE"

  • God bless him and his growing Wisdom xx

  • W-O-W... that was goood.... thanks 4 this song!! shalom, best true rap song i;ve heard in a while...

  • the son was Crushed!!!!

  • His preaching throughout the song was so powerful & completely true. I pray God continues to shed wisdom upon him.

  • What does he mean by "he might as well be a South American president"?

  • @TheMisterBellic reffering to Nelson Mandela I think

  • @TheMisterBellic Jesus is a very popular name in spanish speaking America.... that's the referance. Remember that Jesus pronounced in spanish is "Hey-seus"

  • amen brother preach the gospel

  • WOW... how can anyone dislike this? I pray for them

  • WOW This is an AMAZING Video, Just took my breath Away. Songs like this should be Topping the Charts. Not lady gaga devil songs :( The world is in too much sin and just keeps growing, but we can all change that if we Believe. Praise the Lord Jesus Christ, Thank him for everything he has blessed you with xoxox!

  • @meincarrot Just try to show him that Jesus can Change people, show him the Bible. And then let him decide if he wants to believe and worship :) Dont force anyone. Hope i helped xx

  • WOW. This IS Good. I dont listen to much rap cause of what's being said, but this can totally reach people from the this generation. I actually really really like this. The lyrics speak TRUTH. Thanks for the lyrics.

  • beat > 4 stars

    lyrics> 5 stars

    delivery> 5 stars

    real> as real gets

    search: john segura christian poetry; not this good but its for the kingdom of God

  • Anyone looking for an escape don't look to get away by getting high or drunk or have sex steal whatever there is one escape route that will satisfy you above all. The rest will leave a hole in your heart which will beg for more this one will fill that hole

    Truthfully taking God's path will make life a whole lot harder, but you will love it so much more and you will look at life with love as well as people in need that are hungry for something to fill that hole.

  • @meincarrot this kind of situation is one of the most difficult things a Christian can go through. Although, if the truth of the Gospel is presented, God could change his heart at any time, just keep him in your prayers every day! God can do incredible things, and has His own perfect time, whether it goes the way we want it to or not, God will be glorified!

  • I've smoked weed, the high i get worshiping is so much more then the high i get smokeing weed. Thats why i quit for the grace of our father.

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  • God has gotten me through soo many things!

  • What lecrae explains at 1:17 is a key factor of metaphysics.

    It's the paradox and hypocrisy which is atheism (based from the idea of subjective morality).

    I love how you can take down virtually any "non-believer" with this simple concept.

  • and for the atheist (lol) who thinks he's so smart, God's ways confounds the wise. But wait, you aren't, because the Bible states that "The fool says in his heart 'there is no God'." I'll pray for you too and stop trying to oppose God, or else you WILL be sorry. Don't play with the all powerful, self- existing, everlasting God who gives you breath each day. Jesus!!! Eat your heart out atheist. Love you! haha

  • I am truly blessed bu this. This man is preaching in a way that anyone can understand. Real truth. Let's pray for him that God continues to bless him. Jesus all the way!!!!! Hallelujah!

  • if i could like this a million times i would. I love you Jesus

  • This is what i call MUSIC!! well done Lecrae. God rules!

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  • I SO LOVE THIS SONG ............. BUT THE PEOPLE WHO IS COMMENTING AGAINST THIS SONG MAKES ME SICK .................. ATHEIST YOU REALLY NEED TO HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR PEOPLE AND THERE BELIEFS IF YOU WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO BE RESPECTFUL TO U ........ BUT I RESPECT U FOR BEING SO RUDE TO PEOPLE U DONT EVEN KNOW AND WE CHRISTIANS LOVE EVERYBODY PEOPLE JUST TO TAKE IT CLEAR :D

  • there is a god! without one there is no point for anything, y not just kill people get money, get girs, u can do anything u want but thats y u feel guilt because u know u disobeyed someone and that is the evil u feel from satan, its so simple to understand

  • Athiest, I want to see the proof of your theory that there is no God. Psalms 14:1 read it. There is enough proof of God and His infinate mercy by the fact that we are here. You slander Christ and have no ground to mock what is truth, but yet in your foolishness you continue to babble on and on with stupidity. God made time, can He not go about time as He pleases and who are you to question the unfathimable you aren't even relative in your thinking. The blind follow the blind, uncover your eyes.

  • @meatboyz They do in fact have what they believe is ground. Also, thinking relatively is a personal perception. To you it may be god 24/7, but to others it is what they're dealing with over it. I found god, I know he's real, but I choose to reject him. Therefore, you can't pull that on me.

  • @meatboyz i agree with what you say my friend but don't let anger and persecution cover your eyes with judgement either. Announce that Christ loves them and the Good News and, if they listen to him then Glory to God and if they don't, then Glory to God too. His word will not go back until it has done what it was sent to do.

  • @UrDominicanBaby thanks for the feedback I try not to be too judgemental but things typed are all to often taken out of context because of the lack of emotion in it. My intent was to be more sarcastic and making them see the foolishness of the words they use to put down God. You understand I'm sure what I mean there is just a difference in judgement and correction even sternly like ( and its not as comparable ) the temple when the market was set up there and how even Christ reacted

  • @meatboyz oh okay srry i guess i didnt see the sarcasm but i know what you mean

  • @UrDominicanBaby my bad the word i wanted to use wasn't sarcastic I meant to make the guy who the comment was directed toward feel a little dumb for having challenged God and we being His people, given what to say through The Spirit, I felt like I needed to shut it down. A little harse, ya lol but thanks like I said for the feedback brother. See ya on the other side :)

  • @meatboyz well said

  • @meatboyz Your god, if he exists, is a killer:Witches, kill them. Homosexuals, kill them.fortunetellers, kill them. those who don`t listen to priests, kill them. those hitting their dad, kill them. those who curse their parents, kill them, adulterers, kill them. fornicators, kill them. people who believe in other religions, kill them. non-believers,kill them. fals prohets ,kill them. blasphemers, kill them. those who work on the Sabbath, kill them. This is the word of god ?

  • @ndzoko you distort the Word. he says to pray for them and love them, but to also shun them and disown them

  • @georgeclooney223 I dare you to find anything wrong with my statement. Read your bible. You don`t know what`s in there.

  • @ndzoko tht is wayyyyyy off from The Word Of GOD...it does not say 2 kill it say to bring those ppl 2 Christ....wht ur killin is ur old was so in a sence ur killin yaslf to bring about a new u...like Lecrae says by sinnin ya killin yaslf so y not jus give ya life 2 God and tht way when u really do die ur not in pain from burnin for ever and ever and ever...

  • @ndzoko the Word of God is Christ. he who came to die on the cross for the SINNERS (all you listed and more) not because he hated them (would you die one of the most horrible deaths for people you despised if you had the choice) but because he loved them so much. God LOVES the human race more than anything ever in existence, he just hates the sin they commit. the only sin God cannot and will not forgive is blasphemy of the holy spirit (to live a life and die opposed to God) at which point....

  • @ndzoko ..... God will carry out justice in complete righteousness and condemn you to hell for eternity. friend that does not have to be you. think about it.

  • @CaptainsneakyMk5 I will heed your advice. Now tell me why your god wants all those people killed ? Thank you !!

  • @ndzoko God DOESN'T want those people killed, they are his created beings. understand that a judge convicting his son of serial murder sentencing him to death doesn't want to but is upholding the law. God is a God of justice as well and blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is a sin he will not pardon. i am sure as he condemns these people to hell, along with his righteousness wrath is also great sadness. i told you, God came to earth and died so that the option is open for salvation.

  • @CaptainsneakyMk5 God DOESN'T want those people killed.>>> Haha: another christian, who has no clue what`s in his bible.Please read:. Deuteronomy 17:12.Exodus 22:18.Leviticus 20:13.Leviticus20:27. Exodus 21:15. Proverbs 20:20. Leviticus 20-9 Leviticus 20:10 Leviticus 21:9. Deuteronomy 13:13,19 Exodus 22:19 Deuteronomy 13:1,5.Romans 1:24,32. Exodus 31:12,15. Romans 1:24,32. Leviticus 24:10,16 Deuteronomy 22:20,21

  • @ndzoko Deuteronomy 17:12, he orders them to kill them so that no one else may be decieved and become an enemy of the LORD. Exodus 22:18 Sorceresses, those who have sexual relations to animals or sacrifice to another God, they have commited sins so disgusting, and God orders them to be killed lest someone think those acts are acceptable. Leviticus 20:13, again God will not tolerate such evil as the act of homosexual intercourse. He gave the law so His people would Love Him, not sin.

  • @changed4Christ4life Your god is the worst mass-murderer imaginable. Not only orders he many petty sinners to death, he mass-murderer the whole human race twice,.

  • @ndzoko Proverbs 20:20 God commands us to love our parents and listen to them and respect them because it was part of His plan to glorify Himself. I'd keep going to all the verses but I hope that you are starting to see that God does not command death or a short life to these people just because he wants them dead, he orders it because he hates sin, and that was how he decided to deal with sin. He has not changed but now he gave His Son to take our place and save us and offers us grace...

  • @changed4Christ4life , he orders it because he hates sin.. >>>So why doesn`t he order all those modern sinners killed ? Maybe he is getting used to handle sinners. Maybe he is just getting less bloody, more civilized. A god who kills sinners because he hates sin, can in no way be called JUST LOVING, FORGIVING, COMPASSIONATE. He is worse than earthly tyrants.

  • @ndzoko ...so that we can be saved by Christ's atoning sacrifice on the cross. Christ died for all sins those before and after His death. But the point is so that we would love God, and glorify Him. Saying that he is evil is like saying he is a bad Father because he told you not to play in the street and then you did, and because you got hit by a car you blame Him. He told you not to do it, he warned you of the consequences, then those people did it anyways instead of trusting Him

  • @changed4Christ4life From whatever angle one looks at the salvation story it makes no sense. Why is dying for somebody, when you don`t have to, a sign of great love ? That`s a sign of insanity. Besides scriptures itself state that salvation is nonsense.

  • @ndzoko God is a just God.If a murder was on trial, he must pronounce them guilty in order to be just, no matter how much good the murderer has done.Unless of course,God, infinite in grace and mercy, as the judge and one who has been sinned against,offers that murderer salvation.If the murder accepts it,and repents he can be aquited(by the blood of Christ) but if the murderer refuse Salvation,God's free gift of mercy, and would rather accept his sentece of death, well don't blame God for that

  • @changed4Christ4life Your god is the worst revengeful tyrant imaginable. Earthly tyrants kill their opponents and that is th end. But this LOVING heavenly father TORTURES FOR ALL ETERNITY not only his opponents but even those who happen to not believe in him.Moreover ,he has only one punishment for all non-repentant sinners : HELL, but a repentant mass-murderer gets a ticket to heaven. What kind of divine justice is this ?

  • @ndzoko It is not your or my design, he created us for His glory, and our idea of justice is not His. Check Isaiah 55:8-9.That's just it, it's His way, not our way.His Son had to die even though he was perfect So he could save us.All who don't believe in Him are His opponents, because whether you worship an idol or yourself, you are not giving glory to God.He could of just destroyed us all but in infinite grace he offers us eternal life when we ALL deserve Hell, that seems pretty gracious to me

  • @ndzoko Also, you say he is not loving because he tortures for all eternity? Do you understand that by sinning you don't simply offend a man, or a brother, you offend an infinitely HOLY, infinitely admirable, infinitely glorius, infinitely wrathful God? Who was kind enough to offer you, HIS creation, eternal life and to share in His glory if you'd trust in His grace of His son on the cross? Just because he doesn't grab you by the throat and make you accept it doesn't make Him non-loving

  • @changed4Christ4life So, in this divine justice system the gravity of the punishment has nothing to do with the gravity of the transgression but with the MAJESTY of the judge ... Hahahahahahahahha LOL