High protein diets acidify the blood and to compensate our bones leech calcium to neutralize it. thats what the meat/dairy industry doesnt want us to know.
Protein is Protein. Fat is Fat. You simply avoid the fatty sections of foods and MAGICALLY you are eating healthier. Duh. Yes our body needs fat so don't be misinformed. However since Fat is easier to overload on. Just eat tons of lean meats & veggies.
That's how simple the debate is. Fat is Fat. Don't eat it. It's to easy to get. What more is there to it? LmFaO.
Do that and in 1 year you're as healthy as an ox and you'll giggle at all the worlds theory about bad health.
omg, he's such a lier!! we DO know how much protein and calcium we need... And "fatty protein"??? what the hell is that?? it's not a legitimate term!! proteins are proteins! fat is fat! proteins cant be fatty!! you can eat chicken or fish and get high quality protein (which means is easily metabolized) and low fat! he's taking as example a beef based diet! well, duh! dont eat cheese, drink low fat milk!!
@Ichthyologistic his point is that you don't need any animal products.. low fat milk is not real milk. its processed. Taking fat out of something that IS SUPPOSED to have fat i.e. milk/dairy, is not natural. calcium you can get from green leafy vegetables like broccoli, etc. our country drinks and eats plenty of dairy products, yet we have high rates of osteoporosis, there are at least 3 or 4 medications to treat it, and tons of supplements for calcium... why is that?
@Ichthyologistic Are you retarded? Fatty protein is a legitimate term. Proteins DO contain fat. Have you ever purchased a bag of raw almonds and actually looked at the goddamn Nutrition Facts? It's natural fat. It's just not nearly as fattening as meat. That's base of the argument. Nuts and lean meat contain protein. Beef does too. Nuts and lean meat are waaaay lower in fat. If you eat less steak and hamburgers and more nuts and turkey, you're going to be 10x healthier than some one who does.
@complacentcow i agree that poultry meat and nuts are healthier than steak! but there is no such thing as "fatty protein"...... there are fatty acids and there are proteins, but no combination of the two... Please, send me a link if you find any legitimate website explaining what "fatty proteins" are...
Yawn this video is boring. Its not unhealthy to eat meat and it tastes a hell of alot better then a plant based diet. We dont need cars either but we drive them. I choose to eat meat because I like it. I would not want to live a dull life of no meat no transportation or technology and believing the idiots who are against meat. I choose to be happy consuming what the hell I want which is plants and some delicious meat!!! Drive as much as I want and use as much power as I want!!!
If you should have the right to abuse and kill others for your own personal gain, others should have the right to kill and abuse you too. I want to kill you (not really, just making a point here) and I don't care what you think about it because I do whatever I want. See how stupid that is? :/
Actually Dr. Gordon, the reason so many people are getting osteoporosis in the U.S. is because of an extremely acidic diet which pulls the calcium from our bones. It has nothing to do with the amount of protein we are eating.
@IThinkWereParkedMan0 I'd be very interested to read more about that. Can you point me to some peer-reviewed scientific studies to support your hypothesis? Thanks!
@vdeferens People eat high protein foods.--These foods increase acidity.-->The body releases calcium from the bones to lower acidity.--->Eventual Osteoporosis. -->It's not necessarily the protein. It's that these foods increase acidity.----So, without alkaline forming foods and the extremely important Vitamin D, which I apologize for not mentioning before, there will be a huge risk of getting osteoporosis. Finally, a high protein diet is safe if you are balancing PH and optimizing VD levels.
Only a small minority of the world population has adopted a vegetarian or vegan diet and this won't help the animals one bit. Wake up! There will never be a mass exodus from meat-eating to vegetarianism. A bigger impact can be made by eliminating the brutal farming practices and pushing for more humane treatment of our animals.
@auggiedoggy I don't think you really get the point. I don't care about what you put in your body. But for me, I reckon its a pretty good bet that animal protein is carcinogenic. Its also a pretty good bet that animals that have been slaughtered for our consumption have suffered immensely in the process. I choose not to be a part of that system. You can do what ever the hell you want, its your karma/conscience/soul/whatever. Me, I wanna do what I think is right. That's all.
@vdeferens : I will do what I think is right by continuing to eat the way other healthy, long-lived populations eat rather than some follow some ideology. Ideology doesn't take human biology into account.
@auggiedoggy Then good for you! I applaud your right to have your own point of view and will leave you to pursue it unmolested. But I must ask, why do you care what other people eat? Also, just for the record, avoiding carcinogens isn't an ideology as such, its just basic commonsense. ;)
@vdeferens : Just pointing out that it would take a monumental change in the way the world looks at eating to switch over to vegan and vegetarian diets in the numbers required to make a significant impact on the industry. Yes you are correct about carcinogens! There's much truth in what is said regarding vegan and vegetarian diets but there is also a lot of half-truths and ideological stuff that turns me off. I'm certainly not against such diets, since my diet is 80-90% plant-based.
I think a lot of people who eat meat get defensive because they feel they are being looked down upon, but really vegans would love nothing more than for the whole world to adopt a plant-based diet....An end to global warming, an end to world hunger, reduced cancer, heart disease, obesity, and not to mention animal cruelty...THIS is what adhering to a plant-based diet can provide, the research doesn't lie. A vegan diet is the natural evolution of man, whether he is ready to admit it or not
I don't want to live in a world where I can't wake up and not have delicious crispy bacon on my plate, with each bite thinking back to the pigs squeals of pain. Making my cock erect as this point, I furiously masturbate to the thought of farm animals butchered and cooked for me.
I don't want to live in a world where I can't wake up and not have delicious crispy bacon on my plate, with each bite thinking back to the pigs squeals of pain. Making my cock erect as this point, I furiously masturbate to the thought of farm animals butchered and cooked for me.
@ZoldierrZzz Yea and real men let those animals get violently slaughtered and sometimes eaten alive by carnivores. The most humane way for an animal to die is for a human to chop its head off. The way animals die in nature is violent and tortuous.
@ZoldierrZzz 12 People are stubborn brainwashed morons, that live off fast food and pharmaceuticals! Living on this earth is so simple, man has complicated it!!
@ZoldierrZzz AGREED! Dairy, Meat, Sugar, and Gluten is POISON!! Its a sad brainwashed stubborn ignorant Society! and The food Industry just make us fatter!!
Meat eaters kill animals because they like the taste.
Murderers kill people because they want to.
You are all the same. You do something that is unnecessary, barbaric and immoral... without giving a shit about the victims you kill or violate... all for your own personal gain.
Sure, I don't blame our primitive ancestors for what they did to survive. But the fact is that we no longer need to continue to kill animals for survival. We dominate this planet and we can shape it however we want. And eating meat is in our nature, but before we ate meat, we ate only plants, that was also our nature, and it can change again. "Our nature" means nothing to me. The question we should be asking ourselves is: "What is right and wrong?" And make what is right "our nature".
@Choivirus Real men eat meat. But only when they need to. There really is no point in butchering a sheep or cow for food. You need the wool and the milk. Those are more valuable than a couple of days of meat. That's why traditionally humans generally had only a few pigs or chickens on a farm. I don't believe in pure vegan or vegetarian diet, nor do I have anything against it. But minimal amounts of meat should be consumed instead of the insane amount Americans usually eat.
@flatlandtom More like plaque on your arteries =) Evolutionary Biology is on the side of Vegans. Sorry you like meat so much, but there are better ways.
@Lipitorforall meat does not clog arteries, and science is on the side of meat eaters. sorry, you have been lied too. watch the video called fat head its on net flix. if you wanna be vegan because you love animals more power to you, but stop spreading lies.
@flatlandtom wery true... end weggies forget how much is our fruit end wegetables sprayed with pesticides !! end they think they can just wash it off onder water?!! wery stupid thing to say...... today NOTHING is healthy so eat what you want BUT in normal quantites.. grown person needs 300gramm complet meal...
@JasonTyberiusKirk Honesty, compared to protein crazy meat lovers "You MUST eat this much protein" blah blah blah. I squat 400lbs and bench 260lbs and I don't eat dead animal corpses.
@Lipitorforall woh, nice one. animal corpes, yes humans do, so gross and animal like than human being. i know it since child that meat reduce life span by couple of years
@Lipitorforall 12 People are stubborn brainwashed morons, that live off fast food and pharmaceuticals! Living on this earth is so simple, man has complicated it!!
@Lipitorforall AGREED! Dairy, Meat, Sugar, and Gluten is POISON!! Its a sad brainwashed stubborn ignorant Society! and The food Industry just make us fatter!!
Sure fatty meats and milk are complete garbage, but what about wild pesticide-free fish, organic chicken and organic eggs? Those are good sources of B12 vitamin that are necessary in moderation (perhaps 10% of diet). And dont go out saying that B12 supplements can be taken instead because supplements cannot be fully absorbed in the human body because supplements are made in a lab.
"We don't really know how much protein we need......we do know children and adults are eating 2 to 3 times more protein than what they need" ???? WTF!! How the hell do you know they are getting too much if you don't know how much they need in the first place?? Stick to the diet of our ancestors and you will be fine.......Fruit,vegetables,meat,healthy fats, maybe some eggs and nuts
"WTF!! How the hell do you know they are getting too much if you don't know how much they need in the first place"
I concur with you on that point.
If we know we get 2 to 3 times what we need, as he says, we can get the number ... Let say N is what we need, and G is what we are geting, A the "2 or 3 times" factor then G = A x N; thus N = G / A. If A and G are averages, then N will be an average value too.
@b0n3z0r How the hell can you say we really don't how much protein we need, and then in the very next sentence say kids are getting 2 or 3 times more protein than they need? It doesn't make sense, which is probably why a moron like you bashed me for pointing it out. BTW....."stupid as fuck" doesn't make any sense either, but you don't seem to mind.
I'm glad I read your comment before actualy watching this, because otherwise I might not have laughed so hard!
One important fact that we must not over look in regards to being vegan or not is that animal proteins are easier and more for our bodies to assimilate than plant protiens. This results in a greater efficiancy of protein assimilation than plant proteins.
The best way to eat in my opinion is to have a vegan menu but slap on some meats(Kösher) as a side dish.
I'd bet the free amino acids in fruits & veges are better than the already strung together proteins in meats and dairies, cuz they're strung together to suit the (build the) form of the source animal. So we have to break them down anyway and restring them to suit our specific form. Is this the case or not?
i remember this guy when he would be on the news in the morning, but i've always noticed that he was different and now i see that they have another doctor on. i am wondering did they get rid of him because he speaks the truth or he left them. the other doctor they have on is pushing the flu vaccine, and all other crazy stuff that i knew he wouldn't agree with.
I like this man and I agree with what he says. Vegan diet WITH Superfood is possible, even for a blood type O. I think we need to do what Dr Schulze says and stop the "ticking time bomb" and QUIT eating animals.
Dr. Barry Sears has determined that the human body operates best consuming about 30% of calories from protein. This is a scientific fact. Get over it. If you can tell me how to get that much protein without animal products, let me know.
I have gone ovo-lacto vegetarian, and it is really easy...The hardest thing will be giving up cheese and eggs...I'm going to try and ween myself off slowly.
It's easy to know how much protein you need. Look to nature. Human breast milk is under 5% protein. Live by this rule and you are within healthy limits. A vegan easily meets this requirement.
Because we eat a lot of dairy and we have high rates of osteoporosis that means dairy is not good for us?
What about all the refined carbohydrates and processed vegetable oils in our diets? American's bodies are rife with anti-nutrients. Who is to say we wouldn't be even worse off if we didn't have all this dairy?
This videos' title: "No one needs meat for health" did not even touch on the topic of meat. Though I'm sure if it did, it would spout some other baseless conjecture.
@xXLizzyLoserXx Yeah, you're right. I guess there's milk and eggs in most doughnuts. They're are vegan versions out there, but bad example. I was thinking of the vegan teenagers I know who do it for ethical reasons, not health. They've no problem drinking soda and eating potato chips.
This guy is so right. People (Americans in particular) are always looking for simple answers. They have cancer and look for some magic pill. They thing is that intense exercise and an organic meat-free diet with lots of fruits and veggies is the way to be healthy. Also eating organic. And of course air purification and water purification is needed. Clean out all them toxins so your body can absorb all the nutrients you give it! Remove silver fillings! COME ON GET MOTIVATED AND DO IT!
What I don't get is why vegans rail about how evil the whole animal foods are, without mentioning the really bad guys: REFINED FOODS. I mean, doughnuts are vegan. They're also a triple threat of while flour, sugar, and hydrogenated veggie oils.
@MissJemimaPuddleduck Actually I'm pretty sure doughnuts aren't vegan XD lol I'd be very supirsed if they were. I'd have to say most of the vegans I know tend to be health nuts or try to steer clear of most processed foods by cooking their own.
@xXLizzyLoserXx Wow, orthorexia nervosa. Another disease they make up, sounds alot like hypochondriac to me. Anyways, yeah I got it, I admit it. I am going to admit myself to a mental hospital tomorrow.
Speaking of meat, Lierre Keith, a previous Vegan, but now a heavy meat eater, has plans outlined on her website to kill men in a holocaust fashion. She is mad, and has a criminal mind.
where do horses, cows, and rabbits get their protein?
u can eat plants, and u can also use the enzymes to break down, and build into proteins. u dont necessarily need meat or cheese or whey, or soy. all are a few of the worst dietary culprits.
@gwho What about dogs and cats? They're carnivores. My dog got really sick on kibble. Her teeth were loose and falling out, her fur was thinning and dry, her breath stank, she was edgy and lethargic. Fed her raw meat, raw eggs, raw milk, and every one of those problems has reversed. She is gorgeous and happy again. When I, an omnivore, tried to eat like a herbavore, my period stopped. Came back when I added dairy and red meat again. I don't eat soy, though. I'm with you there.
@MissJemimaPuddleduck i'm not all that hardcore about being vegetarian. i believe meat has a place in the human diet. It's just that most available meat is really poor quality because of the diet the cows are fed, the pesticides, the antibiotics, the carbonmonoxide procesing to make them look red longer, etc. If there were properly raised animals, i'd say those are pretty good to eat.
what i do stick more strongly to, however, is avoiding the most of the modern available meat as diet staples.
@gwho Cool. We're in agreement! I'm a touch more lax with conventional beef, though. At least our Canadian cows get pasture all summer, but I do agree they ought to stop the antibiotics and all that. Usually eat for grass-fed/organic. I do avoid conventional eggs and pork, as I feel those are probably the worst ethically and health wise. But local organic farmers rule, eh? And organic raw cheese has become commonplace in our supermarkets up here.
Yeah, I'd like to know more about that fat/pesticide thing, and if it happens to humans. My Dad is a retired conventional grain/chicken farmer. Lotsa exposure to pesticides for him. Have to wonder if animals (including humans) wouldn't have some way of cleansing. I dunno.
About the conventional eggs, search "battery cage" and read the free encyclopedia article (or just look at the pics). We had neighbours who used this system... (continued)
@gwho (continued)...It's efficient, but produces anemic eggs. Chickens need to eat bugs and grass, and walk around in the sun, to produce eggs with yolks a deep orange/yellow colour (indicative of vitamin content). Besides, life in a cage has gotta suck.
Even in the conventional farm country I grew up in, we could buy the eggs from folks who had hens running around in a little pasture. Thing is, can't usually find those in grocery stores. Have to go to a little farm, or market.
@Gary1111001 I agree. It's really unfortunate. I used to have wicked cramps. My medical doctor told me it wasn't normal, but common. Then he offered me the pill.
I wish all the ladies out these with this problem would see a naturopathic doctor. I have no more pain, thanks to me awesome ND, and eating more and better calories.
It makes sense that the body detoxes during menstration.
Oh, I love that vid! Her relief might be largely due to the maca, though raw milk is pretty awesome. :)
How can you say "we don't know how much protien we need", and then the very next thing you say "we do know that we eat 2-3 times the amount of protien we need"... If you don't know the base number how can you say we eat 3* the number you don;t know?
Yes - and mother's milk is there for us to consume at the time in our lives when our growth rate, and hence our protein need, is the greatest. This would suggest that 6% is a MAXIMUM requirement.
Whatever our protein requirement may be, it's certainly NOT accurately reflected in a diet of, say, bacon, eggs, and cheese for breakfast, a cheeseburger for lunch, and a meat-lovers pizza for dinner.
I thought that, too. I think it'd be better had he said, "we know that most Americans eat AT LEAST double or triple the amount of protein they really need".
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I do agree with him that dairy products are bad but meat? Do you find it weird that we drink milk from another animal that is mean for their young? I don't think any other animal does that in nature.
Though, we definitely need meat for the essential vitamins and protein. Vegetables are a side option. You would need to work out to utilize all that protein though.
You're right about dairy. However you couldn't be more wrong about meat; plant-based foods, esp whole ones, are in fact SUPER-foods and ARE complete proteins and have all the nutrients you need provided you eat a variety of them throughout the day; the myth that veggies are somehow inferior to animal based foods is one that is fed to us by the meat and dairy industries from the time we're infants and areabsolutely NOT true.
I agree with your assessment about meat nutrition. B12 isn't even made by animals, it is made by bacteria and then biomagnified in the fat of the animal.
Lisamarie,
I'm curious about your statement that we need a "variety of [plant foods] throughout the day". Do you mean to imply that individual starches (e.g. potatoes) are incomplete proteins, and require mixing or variety in order to meet our needs?
If so, I have some interesting information for you :-)
@Lisamarie1968 You nailed it. Profit takes precedence over peoples' health in this society. Time allows us to forget the the immediate effects of ignorance until the moment of truth: The Doctor's Grim News About How Long We Have Left To Live. Then we say: "He/she died suddenly and unexpectedly of an illness."
@Lisamarie1968 scientifically speaking, the protein you get from meat is better quality. thats a fact. you can get protein from beans and soy and things, but essential amino acids come more readily through meat (eggs and milk are even better than meat by the way).
@zoeyrawkz Vegetables are a "side option" only because we decide they are. It need not be so. The plate concept of the Western world, and of other cultures influenced by it - animal protein featured prominently as the "main dish" along with one or two token vegetables off to the side - is not universally shared, and is, in fact, in the context of world cuisine, the exception rather than the rule.
For example, in many traditional cultures throughout Asia, constituting billions of people on planet Earth, rice is considered the "main point" of the meal and is eaten at every meal of the day, and other foods, including meat (eaten only occasionally if at all, and in quite small amounts) are seen as accompaniments to the rice. A culture's plate concept is a social construct like any other.
What stops people from eating more fruits, veggies, and whole grains is often not so much a lack of awareness about good nutrition, but rather a psychological enslavement to the Western plate concept, in which meat, eggs, and dairy products occupy so much of the daily caloric intake, that plant-based foods are essentially "crowded out" of the diet. You can only eat so many calories a day, and so eating healthier means reordering priorities and redefining the "main point" of a meal.
No sane person would say, "dessert is the important part of the meal, so eat that first, and if you have any room left, then eat other stuff". Yet that's exactly how many people think of meat and other animal products. Eat all your meat, take a bite of a vegetable and put away the rest, no big deal. Eat all your veggies, take a bite of meat and put away the rest, and people think you've lost your marbles.
Until we get away from thinking of meat and other animal products as the "important part" of a meal, and plant-based foods as, basically, plate adornment, we're not going to see a reduction in the current epidemic of Western-diet-based diseases like heart disease, type II diabetes, and certain cancers, no matter how many new drugs they invent. As crazy as it sounds, what we really need to do is radically redefine what constitutes a "main dish" and what constitutes an optional "side item".
As pathetically inadequate as the USDA's current recommendations of "five servings of fruits and vegetables a day" are, many Americans feel inconvenienced getting even THAT much plant-based nutrition into their diet. Too often, people subsist on a steady diet of meat, cheese, and - pardon my language - refined processed crap, and resort to whole food plant-based nutrition only when their body is crying out for nutrients, by which time the damage has already been done.
It's time to stop playing this reactive game and get AHEAD of the ball, by making plant-based nutrition the non-negotiable constituent of the daily diet, and relegating meat, cheese, and junk food to their rightful place as completely optional "side items", to be eaten, if at all, as an occasional treat, rather than the staple of the daily diet. This is not about going veg; this is about getting our priorities straight and aligning our dietary habits with something resembling common sense.
@honeybear64 Refined processed crap indeed. Though I note you wisely do not include meat and dairy under that label. When my body was seriously damaged, I resorted to whole foods, unfortunately I ate too few of them and restricted their variety through low-carb, vegan, and other diets. Didn't work out. A meal of animal protein (raw cheese, beef, etc.), saturated fat (butter, coconut oil), wholesome starch (potatoes, millet), and vegetables eaten thrice daily has restored my health far better.
i dont eat meat. I do train workout 2 hours 6 days a week and i take protein shakes. i try to get 2.5 grams of protein per kilo bodyweight. i need to build muscle so i guess i need the protein
giugnhgbvinierngvb89, I would caution you about taking in too much protein. It can lead to high acidity, osteoperosis, and kidney damage, among other things.
On the other hand, with how much you work out you do require a much higher calorie intake. As such 2.5 grams per kilo (how much do you weigh?) may only be about 27%-30% of your calories. In that case, you may be doing just fine, so long as the rest of your diet is also nutritious.
Yes. High acidity, and therefore also calcium loss in addition to the above-mentioned by Mentat, is with respect to animal protein, therefore I strongly suggest getting your calories from starches, like potatoes and rice and other plant-based foods.
I really think vegetarianism is the way to go against animal cruelty. What I found interesting was Tsem Tulku Rinpoche, in his video, The Joy of Liberating Animals on Youtube, advised his students to turn vegetarian to create the causes to build an animal sanctuary or shelter. This is to show their commitment to care for animals instead of just saying they care. We dont really care for animals if we keep eating them every meal!
While I completely agree with the overall message, he was stumbling all over himself. He said "We really don't know how much protein we need...", then he goes right into saying "We do know that most American children and adults eat double or triple the amount or protein they really need..."
There's no contradiction in saying "we really don't know how much protein we need...but we know that Americans eat way too much." His saying that Americans eat double or triple the amount needed is not a contradiction to saying we don't know how much we need. His point is we don't need all the protein most people in the US consume, by a factor of at least two and maybe three.
How much water does a person require per day? Opinions differ and we don't really know, but we do know of cases where people in water-drinking contests have died because they drank way too much.
Similarly, we don't know exactly how much protein we need, but we can see the health impact of the amount of protein most Americans eat -- osteoporposis, cancer, obesity -- and we can see that Americans are eating way too much. We don't have to know the optimal amount to observe that we get too much.
@headveg Water drinking contests!!? The human body will let you know when you've consumed enough of anything that isn't overly processed or ladened with chemicals. I have heard of no study directly linking cancer, osteoporosis, and obesity to animal flesh consumption.
@headveg The reson people are geting cancer is because all the crap thay poot in frute,meat and vegys to preserv them what is your body supost to do with food? its supost to break it down what do preservitives do? keep food from breaking down get it? We like to hunt and grow ower own food because we know we dont want store baut food because all the bad stuff in it. You might think vegys and frutes are good for you but after thay fill them full of crap its probibly worse then it is good for you
@headveg It all depends on the function and lifestyle of the individual. For a couch potato who doesn't get any exercise, 100 grams of protein in a day might be unnecessary, but for a competitive athlete, 200 grams of protein a day might not be enough to sustain muscle mass and maximize post workout recovery. It is blatant misinformation to say that meat consumption has remained relatively constant over the last 50 years; it is processed grains and sugar consumption that has sky-rocketed
@RebelWrestler45 I don't care what kind of person you are, a highly active athlete, Olympian, or whatever. 200 grams of protein a day is dangerous to your health, you idiot. Ever heard of calories and carbohydrates? That's what the hell your body uses as fuel, not proteins. That is why some athletes have an intake of more calories. Adding more protein but not more calories or exercise to your diet won't help you build more muscle mass, but it may put your other bodily systems under stress.
@johnny75803 Dangerous to your health? Not at all. Of course your body doesn't use proteins for energy; it uses proteins for muscle protein synthesis and recovery. Without ingesting 2 grams of protein per pound of lean body mass, I currently would not have a 420 pound bench press and 600 pound squat at 215 pounds bodyweight. Without high amounts of protein, an active athlete who encounters high rates of anaerobic respiration will have their muscles rendered catabolic and unable to grow
@RebelWrestler45 Hey special ed, you seem to be like every other idiot that i see at the gym: filling up on protein to bulk up those biceps. But it's a misconception. Eating extra protein actually doesn't do much toward boosting your muscle mass and strength. Again, adding more protein but not more calories or exercise to your diet won't help you build more muscle mass, but it may put your bodily under stress.
So think twice when you consider sacrificing the carbs for a protein-dominant diet.
@johnny75803 No, its not a misconception. Once again, it is IMPOSSIBLE to add protein without adding calories; protein contains energy too. A high protein diet has not been demonstrated to have ketogenic effects in athletic individuals; in addition, a diet is only considered "high protein" if it exceeds 30% of daily caloric intake; this means that at 3,500 calories per day, I will be ingesting a bare minimum of 260 grams of protein per day, on a properly balanced diet.
@RebelWrestler45 260 g a day?! WTF?! That is dangerous and downright dumb. I'm not going to argue with someone who is obviously mentally inept. Many foods that are high in calories and low in protein: sugar, fruits, crackers, cookies, raisins, tuna, anything which is fried, cola, beer, complex carbohydrates (starches) such as whole grains, pasta, cereals, beans, potatoes and rice, nuts, seed, pies, vegetable oils, etc.
see There are a lot more out there than just fatty meats and protein powder!
@johnny75803 Ignoring the vast amounts of empirical real world data (every single powerlifting record holder, without exception, is a meat eater with a high protein intake), several studies have confirmed that active strength athletes reach peak performance with around 2 grams of protein per pound of lean body mass; which for me, is significantly higher than 260 grams/day. 260 grams a day is not healthy for a couch jockey, but as a person who benches 420 and squats 600, it is essential.
@johnny75803 Case in point The Letterman Institute of Research conducted a study where subjects' protein intake was 2.8 g/kg/day), when coupled with intense strength training, they gained a whopping 3.28 kg (7.2 lbs) of lean mass. The study was done over a 40-day period. Another study of weightlifters over a 3 month period, with the protein increased from 2.2g/kg/day to 3.5 g/kg/ day, resulted in a 6% increase in muscle mass and a 5% increase in strength.
CARBOHYDRATES make us fat. Non-debatable. Can we stop giving animal fat a bad rap please?
BenTheThird 3 days ago
protein doesn't just come from meat you know, it comes from veggies and fruit too.
RedLifeSaver 6 days ago
High protein diets acidify the blood and to compensate our bones leech calcium to neutralize it. thats what the meat/dairy industry doesnt want us to know.
FletcherHabit 3 weeks ago
He was very careful not to say that meat is unhealthy, he just said you won't be MORE healthy if you eat meat.
erasmusso 1 month ago
lipoprotein comes from the greek words "lipos" meaning fat and "protein"
elenits1984 1 month ago
All i drink is milk and I couldn't live without meat, so this guy can fuck off
RelativelyHostile1 1 month ago
If you eat more cheese you get more fat :) amen.
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haridham 2 months ago
This dude reminds me so much of Graham Nash.
cockshield 2 months ago
Protein is Protein. Fat is Fat. You simply avoid the fatty sections of foods and MAGICALLY you are eating healthier. Duh. Yes our body needs fat so don't be misinformed. However since Fat is easier to overload on. Just eat tons of lean meats & veggies.
That's how simple the debate is. Fat is Fat. Don't eat it. It's to easy to get. What more is there to it? LmFaO.
Do that and in 1 year you're as healthy as an ox and you'll giggle at all the worlds theory about bad health.
mozarthmoob 2 months ago
omg, he's such a lier!! we DO know how much protein and calcium we need... And "fatty protein"??? what the hell is that?? it's not a legitimate term!! proteins are proteins! fat is fat! proteins cant be fatty!! you can eat chicken or fish and get high quality protein (which means is easily metabolized) and low fat! he's taking as example a beef based diet! well, duh! dont eat cheese, drink low fat milk!!
Ichthyologistic 2 months ago
@Ichthyologistic his point is that you don't need any animal products.. low fat milk is not real milk. its processed. Taking fat out of something that IS SUPPOSED to have fat i.e. milk/dairy, is not natural. calcium you can get from green leafy vegetables like broccoli, etc. our country drinks and eats plenty of dairy products, yet we have high rates of osteoporosis, there are at least 3 or 4 medications to treat it, and tons of supplements for calcium... why is that?
jeff4bucks 1 month ago
@Ichthyologistic Are you retarded? Fatty protein is a legitimate term. Proteins DO contain fat. Have you ever purchased a bag of raw almonds and actually looked at the goddamn Nutrition Facts? It's natural fat. It's just not nearly as fattening as meat. That's base of the argument. Nuts and lean meat contain protein. Beef does too. Nuts and lean meat are waaaay lower in fat. If you eat less steak and hamburgers and more nuts and turkey, you're going to be 10x healthier than some one who does.
complacentcow 1 month ago
@complacentcow i agree that poultry meat and nuts are healthier than steak! but there is no such thing as "fatty protein"...... there are fatty acids and there are proteins, but no combination of the two... Please, send me a link if you find any legitimate website explaining what "fatty proteins" are...
Ichthyologistic 1 month ago
@Ichthyologistic BY THE WAY. You spelled "liar" wrong.
complacentcow 1 month ago
@Ichthyologistic taaake a nutrition class.
complacentcow 1 month ago
@complacentcow ooooohhhh..... do you mean "lipoproteins"?????? ok, there are lipoproteins, but i've never heard call them "fatty proteins"... :S
Ichthyologistic 1 month ago
Yawn this video is boring. Its not unhealthy to eat meat and it tastes a hell of alot better then a plant based diet. We dont need cars either but we drive them. I choose to eat meat because I like it. I would not want to live a dull life of no meat no transportation or technology and believing the idiots who are against meat. I choose to be happy consuming what the hell I want which is plants and some delicious meat!!! Drive as much as I want and use as much power as I want!!!
lovebigboobs29 2 months ago
@lovebigboobs29
If you should have the right to abuse and kill others for your own personal gain, others should have the right to kill and abuse you too. I want to kill you (not really, just making a point here) and I don't care what you think about it because I do whatever I want. See how stupid that is? :/
ZoldierrZzz 2 months ago
Can i haz hamburg3rz?
Sluast 2 months ago
These comments make me cry sad tears ='/
amounirl 3 months ago
Gluten, Dairy and Sugar is POISON!!!
5tonyvvvv 3 months ago
"Nobody is healthier because they eat beef." Real scientific.
IThinkWereParkedMan0 4 months ago
Actually Dr. Gordon, the reason so many people are getting osteoporosis in the U.S. is because of an extremely acidic diet which pulls the calcium from our bones. It has nothing to do with the amount of protein we are eating.
IThinkWereParkedMan0 4 months ago
@IThinkWereParkedMan0 I'd be very interested to read more about that. Can you point me to some peer-reviewed scientific studies to support your hypothesis? Thanks!
vdeferens 3 months ago
@vdeferens People eat high protein foods.--These foods increase acidity.-->The body releases calcium from the bones to lower acidity.--->Eventual Osteoporosis. -->It's not necessarily the protein. It's that these foods increase acidity.----So, without alkaline forming foods and the extremely important Vitamin D, which I apologize for not mentioning before, there will be a huge risk of getting osteoporosis. Finally, a high protein diet is safe if you are balancing PH and optimizing VD levels.
IThinkWereParkedMan0 3 months ago
@vdeferens I believe you should be able to find all you would need through a booked titled "The Calcium Lie" by Dr. Robert Thompson.
IThinkWereParkedMan0 3 months ago
Do what you want, eat what you like, this is America...but facts don't lie and abstaining from meat and animal byproducts has countless benefits
shommeljr 4 months ago
Only a small minority of the world population has adopted a vegetarian or vegan diet and this won't help the animals one bit. Wake up! There will never be a mass exodus from meat-eating to vegetarianism. A bigger impact can be made by eliminating the brutal farming practices and pushing for more humane treatment of our animals.
auggiedoggy 4 months ago
@auggiedoggy I don't think you really get the point. I don't care about what you put in your body. But for me, I reckon its a pretty good bet that animal protein is carcinogenic. Its also a pretty good bet that animals that have been slaughtered for our consumption have suffered immensely in the process. I choose not to be a part of that system. You can do what ever the hell you want, its your karma/conscience/soul/whatever. Me, I wanna do what I think is right. That's all.
vdeferens 3 months ago
@vdeferens : I will do what I think is right by continuing to eat the way other healthy, long-lived populations eat rather than some follow some ideology. Ideology doesn't take human biology into account.
auggiedoggy 3 months ago
@auggiedoggy Then good for you! I applaud your right to have your own point of view and will leave you to pursue it unmolested. But I must ask, why do you care what other people eat? Also, just for the record, avoiding carcinogens isn't an ideology as such, its just basic commonsense. ;)
vdeferens 3 months ago
@vdeferens : Just pointing out that it would take a monumental change in the way the world looks at eating to switch over to vegan and vegetarian diets in the numbers required to make a significant impact on the industry. Yes you are correct about carcinogens! There's much truth in what is said regarding vegan and vegetarian diets but there is also a lot of half-truths and ideological stuff that turns me off. I'm certainly not against such diets, since my diet is 80-90% plant-based.
auggiedoggy 3 months ago
@vdeferens Dairy, Meat, Sugar, and Gluten is POISON!! Its a sad brainwashed stubborn ignorant Society! and The food Industry just make us fatter!!
5tonyvvvv 3 months ago
"we dont know how much protein we need" "american adults eat triple the protein they really need" what the FUCK?
TheBestGuitarSoloEVR 4 months ago
@TheBestGuitarSoloEVR
Thank you!
I was about to post exactly the same thing when I saw you beat me to it.
Seriously, I had to stop the video because I was laughing so hard.
kmbal 4 months ago
@kmbal weird when someones philosophy behind a large decision in their life is founded on unfounded claims and shaky bs
TheBestGuitarSoloEVR 4 months ago
I think a lot of people who eat meat get defensive because they feel they are being looked down upon, but really vegans would love nothing more than for the whole world to adopt a plant-based diet....An end to global warming, an end to world hunger, reduced cancer, heart disease, obesity, and not to mention animal cruelty...THIS is what adhering to a plant-based diet can provide, the research doesn't lie. A vegan diet is the natural evolution of man, whether he is ready to admit it or not
shommeljr 4 months ago
@shommeljr
I don't want to live in a world where I can't wake up and not have delicious crispy bacon on my plate, with each bite thinking back to the pigs squeals of pain. Making my cock erect as this point, I furiously masturbate to the thought of farm animals butchered and cooked for me.
With love!
Knoxerboy101 4 months ago
@shommeljr
I don't want to live in a world where I can't wake up and not have delicious crispy bacon on my plate, with each bite thinking back to the pigs squeals of pain. Making my cock erect as this point, I furiously masturbate to the thought of farm animals butchered and cooked for me.
With love!
Knoxerboy101 4 months ago
real men eat meat (period).
Choivirus 5 months ago
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@Choivirus
Real selfish idiots eat meat. Real men spare the life of weaker and innocent creatures.
ZoldierrZzz 4 months ago 12
@ZoldierrZzz Yea and real men let those animals get violently slaughtered and sometimes eaten alive by carnivores. The most humane way for an animal to die is for a human to chop its head off. The way animals die in nature is violent and tortuous.
IThinkWereParkedMan0 4 months ago
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@ZoldierrZzz 12 People are stubborn brainwashed morons, that live off fast food and pharmaceuticals! Living on this earth is so simple, man has complicated it!!
5tonyvvvv 3 months ago
@ZoldierrZzz AGREED! Dairy, Meat, Sugar, and Gluten is POISON!! Its a sad brainwashed stubborn ignorant Society! and The food Industry just make us fatter!!
5tonyvvvv 3 months ago
@ZoldierrZzz Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah aaugh.. my lungs.
Klaus1386 3 months ago
@ZoldierrZzz Real men eat meat because we like the taste.
jungenbum 2 months ago
@jungenbum
Rapists rape women because they enjoy it.
Meat eaters kill animals because they like the taste.
Murderers kill people because they want to.
You are all the same. You do something that is unnecessary, barbaric and immoral... without giving a shit about the victims you kill or violate... all for your own personal gain.
ZoldierrZzz 2 months ago
@ZoldierrZzz Unnecessary? Perhaps. Barbaric and immoral? No, we have been doing it for years to survive, and it is who we are. It's in our nature.
jungenbum 2 months ago
@jungenbum
Sure, I don't blame our primitive ancestors for what they did to survive. But the fact is that we no longer need to continue to kill animals for survival. We dominate this planet and we can shape it however we want. And eating meat is in our nature, but before we ate meat, we ate only plants, that was also our nature, and it can change again. "Our nature" means nothing to me. The question we should be asking ourselves is: "What is right and wrong?" And make what is right "our nature".
ZoldierrZzz 2 months ago
@jungenbum We were also impregnating 14 year old girls for centuries. I guess we should continue that too since it's "natural" and all. :]
complacentcow 1 month ago
@ZoldierrZzz yes true. Veganism/Vegetarianism rules. Check out this video. /watch?v=MzXlsTKndGA
haridham 2 months ago
@Choivirus Real men eat meat. But only when they need to. There really is no point in butchering a sheep or cow for food. You need the wool and the milk. Those are more valuable than a couple of days of meat. That's why traditionally humans generally had only a few pigs or chickens on a farm. I don't believe in pure vegan or vegetarian diet, nor do I have anything against it. But minimal amounts of meat should be consumed instead of the insane amount Americans usually eat.
Supercucu123 4 months ago
Well done, Dr. Gordon! The more that the meat, egg, & dairy industrie`s lies are exposed, the better!!
25411959 5 months ago
more vegan lies. its like aplague on youtube
flatlandtom 5 months ago
@flatlandtom More like plaque on your arteries =) Evolutionary Biology is on the side of Vegans. Sorry you like meat so much, but there are better ways.
Lipitorforall 5 months ago 2
@Lipitorforall meat does not clog arteries, and science is on the side of meat eaters. sorry, you have been lied too. watch the video called fat head its on net flix. if you wanna be vegan because you love animals more power to you, but stop spreading lies.
flatlandtom 5 months ago
@flatlandtom wery true... end weggies forget how much is our fruit end wegetables sprayed with pesticides !! end they think they can just wash it off onder water?!! wery stupid thing to say...... today NOTHING is healthy so eat what you want BUT in normal quantites.. grown person needs 300gramm complet meal...
DJsonnyANTWERPEN 5 months ago
I heard him say, "We really don't know" three times.
JasonTyberiusKirk 5 months ago
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@JasonTyberiusKirk Honesty, compared to protein crazy meat lovers "You MUST eat this much protein" blah blah blah. I squat 400lbs and bench 260lbs and I don't eat dead animal corpses.
Lipitorforall 5 months ago 7
@Lipitorforall That's all? Lol, you need a ham sandwich homey...
JasonTyberiusKirk 5 months ago
@Lipitorforall woh, nice one. animal corpes, yes humans do, so gross and animal like than human being. i know it since child that meat reduce life span by couple of years
jigmey911 4 months ago
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@Lipitorforall 12 People are stubborn brainwashed morons, that live off fast food and pharmaceuticals! Living on this earth is so simple, man has complicated it!!
5tonyvvvv 3 months ago
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@Lipitorforall AGREED! Dairy, Meat, Sugar, and Gluten is POISON!! Its a sad brainwashed stubborn ignorant Society! and The food Industry just make us fatter!!
5tonyvvvv 3 months ago
@Lipitorforall True. I have been a vegetarian all my life. Check out this video /watch?v=MzXlsTKndGA
haridham 2 months ago
Isn't this the same guy who says vaccinations cause autism. No thanks Dr. Gordon.
flootisboy65 5 months ago
THANKS SO MUCH !
AFFIRMATIONS1 5 months ago
Sure fatty meats and milk are complete garbage, but what about wild pesticide-free fish, organic chicken and organic eggs? Those are good sources of B12 vitamin that are necessary in moderation (perhaps 10% of diet). And dont go out saying that B12 supplements can be taken instead because supplements cannot be fully absorbed in the human body because supplements are made in a lab.
HrapovikPlush 5 months ago
Excellent information, impeccably accurate.
supernaturalhealth 6 months ago
"We don't really know how much protein we need......we do know children and adults are eating 2 to 3 times more protein than what they need" ???? WTF!! How the hell do you know they are getting too much if you don't know how much they need in the first place?? Stick to the diet of our ancestors and you will be fine.......Fruit,vegetables,meat,healthy fats, maybe some eggs and nuts
samherb1 7 months ago
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@samherb1
"WTF!! How the hell do you know they are getting too much if you don't know how much they need in the first place"
I concur with you on that point.
If we know we get 2 to 3 times what we need, as he says, we can get the number ... Let say N is what we need, and G is what we are geting, A the "2 or 3 times" factor then G = A x N; thus N = G / A. If A and G are averages, then N will be an average value too.
menonfire12 7 months ago
@samherb1 you're stupid as fuck. Watch the video a few more times.
b0n3z0r 6 months ago
@b0n3z0r How the hell can you say we really don't how much protein we need, and then in the very next sentence say kids are getting 2 or 3 times more protein than they need? It doesn't make sense, which is probably why a moron like you bashed me for pointing it out. BTW....."stupid as fuck" doesn't make any sense either, but you don't seem to mind.
samherb1 6 months ago
@samherb1 ...LOL!!
I'm glad I read your comment before actualy watching this, because otherwise I might not have laughed so hard!
One important fact that we must not over look in regards to being vegan or not is that animal proteins are easier and more for our bodies to assimilate than plant protiens. This results in a greater efficiancy of protein assimilation than plant proteins.
The best way to eat in my opinion is to have a vegan menu but slap on some meats(Kösher) as a side dish.
DOASalesman 6 months ago
@DOASalesman Then how the hell is that vegan?
supernatural119 6 months ago
@supernatural119
Read the comment again. I basically said that in my opinion the best diet consits of lots of fruit and veg with healthy meats in small portions.
I hope that cleared it up.
DOASalesman 5 months ago
@samherb1 I support you!
Let's stay Omnivorus and eat anything that's edible.
Poodleinacan 6 months ago
"We don't need animal products to be healthy." Well said.
1imesub 8 months ago
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I'd bet the free amino acids in fruits & veges are better than the already strung together proteins in meats and dairies, cuz they're strung together to suit the (build the) form of the source animal. So we have to break them down anyway and restring them to suit our specific form. Is this the case or not?
reforest4fertility 8 months ago
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reforest4fertility 8 months ago
I'm vegetarian but I'm not healthy.
I live off of Boca burgers and Boca nuggets. Proccessed. NOT healthy.XD
But they're soooo good. *_*
KikyoChanXD 8 months ago
@KikyoChanXD At least you admit it.
You have more intellingence than some other persons, for admiting that eating only one type of food isn't healthy.
I eat meat, but that doesn't means that it's the only food I eat.
I eat meats, fruits, vegetables,...anything that's edible.
Though, I'm healthier thanks to the cooking of my mom, which goes for low fat meat.
Poodleinacan 6 months ago
@Poodleinacan It is safe to say that it is advisable to read and learn prior to commenting on a complex and important topic such as this.
trunitemare 5 months ago
i remember this guy when he would be on the news in the morning, but i've always noticed that he was different and now i see that they have another doctor on. i am wondering did they get rid of him because he speaks the truth or he left them. the other doctor they have on is pushing the flu vaccine, and all other crazy stuff that i knew he wouldn't agree with.
mrsblue82 8 months ago
I like this man and I agree with what he says. Vegan diet WITH Superfood is possible, even for a blood type O. I think we need to do what Dr Schulze says and stop the "ticking time bomb" and QUIT eating animals.
Joseph03743 8 months ago
As the Little Prince said: "Grown-ups like figures".
rutsableich 9 months ago
Dr. Barry Sears has determined that the human body operates best consuming about 30% of calories from protein. This is a scientific fact. Get over it. If you can tell me how to get that much protein without animal products, let me know.
MrMZaccone 11 months ago
we also eat way more sugar than any other country hence obesity but noooo its never brought up
rast123456789 11 months ago
WE DIG OUR GRAVE WITH OUR TEETH.........(FRENCH SAYING)
lyes28 1 year ago
@lyes28 amen to the we dig our grave with our teeth......
AndrewChan84 11 months ago
Wait? U r saying that beef comes from cows?
phatcrayonz 1 year ago
The culprit is to much carbohydrates
rast123456789 1 year ago
I have gone ovo-lacto vegetarian, and it is really easy...The hardest thing will be giving up cheese and eggs...I'm going to try and ween myself off slowly.
xpaladoshes 1 year ago
Yes, babies and infants need lots of fat at that stage of development.
chopsueykungfu 1 year ago
so would you agree -> i workout alot and eat lots of meat, would you say a vegan can progress as fast?
Jerrevdd1989 1 year ago
@Jerrevdd1989 meet Bill Pearl, Jim Morris, Kenneth Williams, Alexander Dargatz, Avi Lehyani...and so on.
gdyby 1 year ago
@gdyby yes muscular but I'm talking about progress going as fast and as far as meat eaters, give me one mr o that doesn't touch the meat :D
Jerrevdd1989 1 year ago
@Jerrevdd1989 I'm not sure what you exactly mean (my english is not perfect), but maybe Carl Lewis will help...
gdyby 1 year ago
Jay Gordon win!
TofiggyPiggy 1 year ago
What about vitamin B12
Vellwander 1 year ago
It's easy to know how much protein you need. Look to nature. Human breast milk is under 5% protein. Live by this rule and you are within healthy limits. A vegan easily meets this requirement.
chopsueykungfu 1 year ago 2
@chopsueykungfu This would also support a high fat diet of mostly saturated fat since human breast milk is over 60% fat, mostly saturated.
BachScholar 1 year ago
You know, I lold while eating my beef.
Sivuras 1 year ago
@Sivuras
I loled when I read this.
Some people bump into truth, and welcome it with open arms.
Others get right back up, dust themselves off, and continue on their way...
Guess which one you are ;)
MichaelBallack91 1 year ago 2
Because we eat a lot of dairy and we have high rates of osteoporosis that means dairy is not good for us?
What about all the refined carbohydrates and processed vegetable oils in our diets? American's bodies are rife with anti-nutrients. Who is to say we wouldn't be even worse off if we didn't have all this dairy?
This videos' title: "No one needs meat for health" did not even touch on the topic of meat. Though I'm sure if it did, it would spout some other baseless conjecture.
reddupo 1 year ago
@xXLizzyLoserXx Yeah, you're right. I guess there's milk and eggs in most doughnuts. They're are vegan versions out there, but bad example. I was thinking of the vegan teenagers I know who do it for ethical reasons, not health. They've no problem drinking soda and eating potato chips.
MissJemimaPuddleduck 1 year ago
This guy is so right. People (Americans in particular) are always looking for simple answers. They have cancer and look for some magic pill. They thing is that intense exercise and an organic meat-free diet with lots of fruits and veggies is the way to be healthy. Also eating organic. And of course air purification and water purification is needed. Clean out all them toxins so your body can absorb all the nutrients you give it! Remove silver fillings! COME ON GET MOTIVATED AND DO IT!
777TylerJB 1 year ago
What I don't get is why vegans rail about how evil the whole animal foods are, without mentioning the really bad guys: REFINED FOODS. I mean, doughnuts are vegan. They're also a triple threat of while flour, sugar, and hydrogenated veggie oils.
MissJemimaPuddleduck 1 year ago
@MissJemimaPuddleduck Actually I'm pretty sure doughnuts aren't vegan XD lol I'd be very supirsed if they were. I'd have to say most of the vegans I know tend to be health nuts or try to steer clear of most processed foods by cooking their own.
xXLizzyLoserXx 1 year ago
@xXLizzyLoserXx What is a health nut? Could you clearly define this term.
apocalist420 1 year ago
@apocalist420 Well more like very health concious and some the the extreme of orthorexia. :P (I'm kind of joking about that last part XD)
xXLizzyLoserXx 1 year ago
@xXLizzyLoserXx Wow, orthorexia nervosa. Another disease they make up, sounds alot like hypochondriac to me. Anyways, yeah I got it, I admit it. I am going to admit myself to a mental hospital tomorrow.
apocalist420 1 year ago
@apocalist420 lol well it's technically not reconized as a mental disease lol XD
xXLizzyLoserXx 1 year ago
Speaking of meat, Lierre Keith, a previous Vegan, but now a heavy meat eater, has plans outlined on her website to kill men in a holocaust fashion. She is mad, and has a criminal mind.
HugNow 1 year ago
Google calcium wasters.
blackman666ful 1 year ago
just go vegan
nwendt06 1 year ago
do we really need to eat protein?
where do horses, cows, and rabbits get their protein?
u can eat plants, and u can also use the enzymes to break down, and build into proteins. u dont necessarily need meat or cheese or whey, or soy. all are a few of the worst dietary culprits.
gwho 1 year ago 2
@gwho What about dogs and cats? They're carnivores. My dog got really sick on kibble. Her teeth were loose and falling out, her fur was thinning and dry, her breath stank, she was edgy and lethargic. Fed her raw meat, raw eggs, raw milk, and every one of those problems has reversed. She is gorgeous and happy again. When I, an omnivore, tried to eat like a herbavore, my period stopped. Came back when I added dairy and red meat again. I don't eat soy, though. I'm with you there.
MissJemimaPuddleduck 1 year ago
@MissJemimaPuddleduck i'm not all that hardcore about being vegetarian. i believe meat has a place in the human diet. It's just that most available meat is really poor quality because of the diet the cows are fed, the pesticides, the antibiotics, the carbonmonoxide procesing to make them look red longer, etc. If there were properly raised animals, i'd say those are pretty good to eat.
what i do stick more strongly to, however, is avoiding the most of the modern available meat as diet staples.
gwho 1 year ago
@gwho Cool. We're in agreement! I'm a touch more lax with conventional beef, though. At least our Canadian cows get pasture all summer, but I do agree they ought to stop the antibiotics and all that. Usually eat for grass-fed/organic. I do avoid conventional eggs and pork, as I feel those are probably the worst ethically and health wise. But local organic farmers rule, eh? And organic raw cheese has become commonplace in our supermarkets up here.
MissJemimaPuddleduck 1 year ago
@MissJemimaPuddleduck
it really is about NOT putting crap into them like GMO, pesticides and antibiotics.
(btw, i recently heard conventional animals have way more pesticides than plants b/c it gets accumulated in their fat)
hmmmmmm interesting. i dont know too much about eggs. please do tell why u put conventional eggs up there with pork.
gwho 1 year ago
@gwho Sorry, I'm kinda late replying to you.
Yeah, I'd like to know more about that fat/pesticide thing, and if it happens to humans. My Dad is a retired conventional grain/chicken farmer. Lotsa exposure to pesticides for him. Have to wonder if animals (including humans) wouldn't have some way of cleansing. I dunno.
About the conventional eggs, search "battery cage" and read the free encyclopedia article (or just look at the pics). We had neighbours who used this system... (continued)
MissJemimaPuddleduck 1 year ago
@gwho (continued)...It's efficient, but produces anemic eggs. Chickens need to eat bugs and grass, and walk around in the sun, to produce eggs with yolks a deep orange/yellow colour (indicative of vitamin content). Besides, life in a cage has gotta suck.
Even in the conventional farm country I grew up in, we could buy the eggs from folks who had hens running around in a little pasture. Thing is, can't usually find those in grocery stores. Have to go to a little farm, or market.
MissJemimaPuddleduck 1 year ago
@MissJemimaPuddleduck Kibble is cooked, right? Also, sickness is cause by more than what you eat. But removing cooked food allows the body to heal.
There's a theory that periods are the body detoxing. I've heard from many women who start eating healthy, and have less severe periods.........
See "pain-free period" on youtube. 1st vid is from a raw milk drinker, so....
It's sad that Western women have been conditioned to except that severity as normal.
Gary1111001 1 year ago
@Gary1111001 I agree. It's really unfortunate. I used to have wicked cramps. My medical doctor told me it wasn't normal, but common. Then he offered me the pill.
I wish all the ladies out these with this problem would see a naturopathic doctor. I have no more pain, thanks to me awesome ND, and eating more and better calories.
It makes sense that the body detoxes during menstration.
Oh, I love that vid! Her relief might be largely due to the maca, though raw milk is pretty awesome. :)
MissJemimaPuddleduck 1 year ago
How can you say "we don't know how much protien we need", and then the very next thing you say "we do know that we eat 2-3 times the amount of protien we need"... If you don't know the base number how can you say we eat 3* the number you don;t know?
TheVidMan503 2 years ago
"We really don't know how much protein we need"
"We do know that most American children, and adults eat double or triple the amount of protein they really need."
Way to be consistent.
dgd187 2 years ago 2
Here's a hint: human mother's milk is 6% protein.
thefutureisvegan 2 years ago
@thefutureisvegan even less than that, actually !!
1cerise 2 years ago
Yes, this is one of the most generous estimates.
thefutureisvegan 2 years ago
@thefutureisvegan -
Yes - and mother's milk is there for us to consume at the time in our lives when our growth rate, and hence our protein need, is the greatest. This would suggest that 6% is a MAXIMUM requirement.
Whatever our protein requirement may be, it's certainly NOT accurately reflected in a diet of, say, bacon, eggs, and cheese for breakfast, a cheeseburger for lunch, and a meat-lovers pizza for dinner.
honeybear64 2 years ago 2
@dgd187 -
I thought that, too. I think it'd be better had he said, "we know that most Americans eat AT LEAST double or triple the amount of protein they really need".
honeybear64 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I do agree with him that dairy products are bad but meat? Do you find it weird that we drink milk from another animal that is mean for their young? I don't think any other animal does that in nature.
Though, we definitely need meat for the essential vitamins and protein. Vegetables are a side option. You would need to work out to utilize all that protein though.
zoeyrawkz 2 years ago
what vitamins beside b12 do you get from meat that you can't get from vegetables. Meat if eaten should be the side dish.
Stonewalljackson7 2 years ago
You're right about dairy. However you couldn't be more wrong about meat; plant-based foods, esp whole ones, are in fact SUPER-foods and ARE complete proteins and have all the nutrients you need provided you eat a variety of them throughout the day; the myth that veggies are somehow inferior to animal based foods is one that is fed to us by the meat and dairy industries from the time we're infants and areabsolutely NOT true.
Lisamarie1968 2 years ago 10
Stonewall,
I agree with your assessment about meat nutrition. B12 isn't even made by animals, it is made by bacteria and then biomagnified in the fat of the animal.
Lisamarie,
I'm curious about your statement that we need a "variety of [plant foods] throughout the day". Do you mean to imply that individual starches (e.g. potatoes) are incomplete proteins, and require mixing or variety in order to meet our needs?
If so, I have some interesting information for you :-)
Mentat1231 2 years ago
@Lisamarie1968 You nailed it. Profit takes precedence over peoples' health in this society. Time allows us to forget the the immediate effects of ignorance until the moment of truth: The Doctor's Grim News About How Long We Have Left To Live. Then we say: "He/she died suddenly and unexpectedly of an illness."
DavesVenture 1 year ago
@Lisamarie1968 scientifically speaking, the protein you get from meat is better quality. thats a fact. you can get protein from beans and soy and things, but essential amino acids come more readily through meat (eggs and milk are even better than meat by the way).
Anticrombie918 10 months ago
@zoeyrawkz Vegetables are a "side option" only because we decide they are. It need not be so. The plate concept of the Western world, and of other cultures influenced by it - animal protein featured prominently as the "main dish" along with one or two token vegetables off to the side - is not universally shared, and is, in fact, in the context of world cuisine, the exception rather than the rule.
honeybear64 1 year ago
For example, in many traditional cultures throughout Asia, constituting billions of people on planet Earth, rice is considered the "main point" of the meal and is eaten at every meal of the day, and other foods, including meat (eaten only occasionally if at all, and in quite small amounts) are seen as accompaniments to the rice. A culture's plate concept is a social construct like any other.
honeybear64 1 year ago
What stops people from eating more fruits, veggies, and whole grains is often not so much a lack of awareness about good nutrition, but rather a psychological enslavement to the Western plate concept, in which meat, eggs, and dairy products occupy so much of the daily caloric intake, that plant-based foods are essentially "crowded out" of the diet. You can only eat so many calories a day, and so eating healthier means reordering priorities and redefining the "main point" of a meal.
honeybear64 1 year ago
No sane person would say, "dessert is the important part of the meal, so eat that first, and if you have any room left, then eat other stuff". Yet that's exactly how many people think of meat and other animal products. Eat all your meat, take a bite of a vegetable and put away the rest, no big deal. Eat all your veggies, take a bite of meat and put away the rest, and people think you've lost your marbles.
honeybear64 1 year ago
Until we get away from thinking of meat and other animal products as the "important part" of a meal, and plant-based foods as, basically, plate adornment, we're not going to see a reduction in the current epidemic of Western-diet-based diseases like heart disease, type II diabetes, and certain cancers, no matter how many new drugs they invent. As crazy as it sounds, what we really need to do is radically redefine what constitutes a "main dish" and what constitutes an optional "side item".
honeybear64 1 year ago
As pathetically inadequate as the USDA's current recommendations of "five servings of fruits and vegetables a day" are, many Americans feel inconvenienced getting even THAT much plant-based nutrition into their diet. Too often, people subsist on a steady diet of meat, cheese, and - pardon my language - refined processed crap, and resort to whole food plant-based nutrition only when their body is crying out for nutrients, by which time the damage has already been done.
honeybear64 1 year ago
It's time to stop playing this reactive game and get AHEAD of the ball, by making plant-based nutrition the non-negotiable constituent of the daily diet, and relegating meat, cheese, and junk food to their rightful place as completely optional "side items", to be eaten, if at all, as an occasional treat, rather than the staple of the daily diet. This is not about going veg; this is about getting our priorities straight and aligning our dietary habits with something resembling common sense.
honeybear64 1 year ago
@honeybear64 Refined processed crap indeed. Though I note you wisely do not include meat and dairy under that label. When my body was seriously damaged, I resorted to whole foods, unfortunately I ate too few of them and restricted their variety through low-carb, vegan, and other diets. Didn't work out. A meal of animal protein (raw cheese, beef, etc.), saturated fat (butter, coconut oil), wholesome starch (potatoes, millet), and vegetables eaten thrice daily has restored my health far better.
MissJemimaPuddleduck 1 year ago
Man, this guy is all wrong.
Just ask the Meat, Dairy and Fast Food Industry spokespeople, their lawyers, lobbyists and trade association reps.
Oh yeah and the Pharma industry too, sorry I almost forgot them.
powerease 2 years ago 4
this guy is the doctor and trying to help us probably, most honest doctor i ever seen. i just want to thank him
dream2last 2 years ago 3
Haha, these people looking for little details to make this video look bad, FAILTRAIN!
RahimJaffer 2 years ago
WHEAT
AND DAIRY
Are one of the worsth FOOD you can intake , Trust me you dont want to eat it.
BigAlexender 2 years ago
i dont eat meat. I do train workout 2 hours 6 days a week and i take protein shakes. i try to get 2.5 grams of protein per kilo bodyweight. i need to build muscle so i guess i need the protein
what do you think?
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
giugnhgbvinierngvb89, I would caution you about taking in too much protein. It can lead to high acidity, osteoperosis, and kidney damage, among other things.
On the other hand, with how much you work out you do require a much higher calorie intake. As such 2.5 grams per kilo (how much do you weigh?) may only be about 27%-30% of your calories. In that case, you may be doing just fine, so long as the rest of your diet is also nutritious.
Cheers.
Mentat1231 2 years ago
wow thanks for your response. im 75 kg.
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 2 years ago
Yes. High acidity, and therefore also calcium loss in addition to the above-mentioned by Mentat, is with respect to animal protein, therefore I strongly suggest getting your calories from starches, like potatoes and rice and other plant-based foods.
Lisamarie1968 2 years ago
eat lots of soy foods , kidney beans, red beans, chick peas, lentils , and dried nuts
Dinuka81 2 years ago
Spot on
bbagginz 2 years ago
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I really think vegetarianism is the way to go against animal cruelty. What I found interesting was Tsem Tulku Rinpoche, in his video, The Joy of Liberating Animals on Youtube, advised his students to turn vegetarian to create the causes to build an animal sanctuary or shelter. This is to show their commitment to care for animals instead of just saying they care. We dont really care for animals if we keep eating them every meal!
MoiraKelly1 2 years ago
While I completely agree with the overall message, he was stumbling all over himself. He said "We really don't know how much protein we need...", then he goes right into saying "We do know that most American children and adults eat double or triple the amount or protein they really need..."
failtrain
ieatsnot 2 years ago 2
There's no contradiction in saying "we really don't know how much protein we need...but we know that Americans eat way too much." His saying that Americans eat double or triple the amount needed is not a contradiction to saying we don't know how much we need. His point is we don't need all the protein most people in the US consume, by a factor of at least two and maybe three.
headveg 2 years ago 5
If you don't know how much is needed, how can you say what's to much?
ieatsnot 2 years ago 2
How much water does a person require per day? Opinions differ and we don't really know, but we do know of cases where people in water-drinking contests have died because they drank way too much.
Similarly, we don't know exactly how much protein we need, but we can see the health impact of the amount of protein most Americans eat -- osteoporposis, cancer, obesity -- and we can see that Americans are eating way too much. We don't have to know the optimal amount to observe that we get too much.
headveg 2 years ago 7
@headveg Water drinking contests!!? The human body will let you know when you've consumed enough of anything that isn't overly processed or ladened with chemicals. I have heard of no study directly linking cancer, osteoporosis, and obesity to animal flesh consumption.
2pacndr 1 year ago
@headveg The reson people are geting cancer is because all the crap thay poot in frute,meat and vegys to preserv them what is your body supost to do with food? its supost to break it down what do preservitives do? keep food from breaking down get it? We like to hunt and grow ower own food because we know we dont want store baut food because all the bad stuff in it. You might think vegys and frutes are good for you but after thay fill them full of crap its probibly worse then it is good for you
gary77777778888888 10 months ago
@headveg It all depends on the function and lifestyle of the individual. For a couch potato who doesn't get any exercise, 100 grams of protein in a day might be unnecessary, but for a competitive athlete, 200 grams of protein a day might not be enough to sustain muscle mass and maximize post workout recovery. It is blatant misinformation to say that meat consumption has remained relatively constant over the last 50 years; it is processed grains and sugar consumption that has sky-rocketed
RebelWrestler45 9 months ago
@RebelWrestler45 I don't care what kind of person you are, a highly active athlete, Olympian, or whatever. 200 grams of protein a day is dangerous to your health, you idiot. Ever heard of calories and carbohydrates? That's what the hell your body uses as fuel, not proteins. That is why some athletes have an intake of more calories. Adding more protein but not more calories or exercise to your diet won't help you build more muscle mass, but it may put your other bodily systems under stress.
johnny75803 8 months ago
@johnny75803 Dangerous to your health? Not at all. Of course your body doesn't use proteins for energy; it uses proteins for muscle protein synthesis and recovery. Without ingesting 2 grams of protein per pound of lean body mass, I currently would not have a 420 pound bench press and 600 pound squat at 215 pounds bodyweight. Without high amounts of protein, an active athlete who encounters high rates of anaerobic respiration will have their muscles rendered catabolic and unable to grow
RebelWrestler45 8 months ago
@RebelWrestler45 Hey special ed, you seem to be like every other idiot that i see at the gym: filling up on protein to bulk up those biceps. But it's a misconception. Eating extra protein actually doesn't do much toward boosting your muscle mass and strength. Again, adding more protein but not more calories or exercise to your diet won't help you build more muscle mass, but it may put your bodily under stress.
So think twice when you consider sacrificing the carbs for a protein-dominant diet.
johnny75803 8 months ago
@johnny75803 No, its not a misconception. Once again, it is IMPOSSIBLE to add protein without adding calories; protein contains energy too. A high protein diet has not been demonstrated to have ketogenic effects in athletic individuals; in addition, a diet is only considered "high protein" if it exceeds 30% of daily caloric intake; this means that at 3,500 calories per day, I will be ingesting a bare minimum of 260 grams of protein per day, on a properly balanced diet.
RebelWrestler45 8 months ago
@RebelWrestler45 260 g a day?! WTF?! That is dangerous and downright dumb. I'm not going to argue with someone who is obviously mentally inept. Many foods that are high in calories and low in protein: sugar, fruits, crackers, cookies, raisins, tuna, anything which is fried, cola, beer, complex carbohydrates (starches) such as whole grains, pasta, cereals, beans, potatoes and rice, nuts, seed, pies, vegetable oils, etc.
see There are a lot more out there than just fatty meats and protein powder!
johnny75803 8 months ago
@johnny75803 Ignoring the vast amounts of empirical real world data (every single powerlifting record holder, without exception, is a meat eater with a high protein intake), several studies have confirmed that active strength athletes reach peak performance with around 2 grams of protein per pound of lean body mass; which for me, is significantly higher than 260 grams/day. 260 grams a day is not healthy for a couch jockey, but as a person who benches 420 and squats 600, it is essential.
RebelWrestler45 8 months ago
@johnny75803 Case in point The Letterman Institute of Research conducted a study where subjects' protein intake was 2.8 g/kg/day), when coupled with intense strength training, they gained a whopping 3.28 kg (7.2 lbs) of lean mass. The study was done over a 40-day period. Another study of weightlifters over a 3 month period, with the protein increased from 2.2g/kg/day to 3.5 g/kg/ day, resulted in a 6% increase in muscle mass and a 5% increase in strength.
RebelWrestler45 8 months ago