I hope that will be no war cause who ever wins we lose...But in my opinion F-22 are better... i mean if they cost 3 times more than Sukhoi PAK FA T-50 then it must be better.
que f-22 por favor el pak fa t-50 ruso el mejor caza de 5ta generacion del mundo ojala en un futuro no muy lejano en venezuela contemos con estos sorprendentes aviones...
This is F-22, just cheap, because the Russians did not learn yet how to make most of it! USA is business orientated, there for they will charge the maximum.
joke of the year..! so another made in china...? so warranty limited until the missile hits...lol.....haaa china is the breeding ground of filth technology..!
lol anything is cheaper in a communist country. its about the slave driven low salary work they put you through. and that guy below is correct. its 165 million. haha its been over 20 years since the F-22 was desined, OVER 20 YEARS. I think russia is still a little behind..
I'm willing to believe that this aircraft is probably superior to the J-20 the chinese made simply by the fact that the chinese defense industry still needs to import components such as jet engines to make up for the fact they can't build a comparable product without any trouble.
@vvsector ...maybe you should take a closer look into what happened back then.
the f15 was the answer to the foxbat. but the americans overestimated the m25 so much that they build one of the most badass planes ever. just look at the combat ratio.
@7732929 hey we respect russia too. and the cost for the f22 programm was really a huge financial black hole... but that was always the same and never changed. it's the price you pay for being the first one to have something that complex. you also have to see the investments in groundbreaking science to complete a goal like that.. most of the money is not "wasted" but invested into knowledge and new jobs. and of course superiority for a short time.
T50 is a great Russia plane, it is not a copy of the u.s F22/yf23.Russia just have to export them to others against the F22 in the near future, let wait and see.
1 dollar USD = 28 Russian RUB, 6.5 Chinese CNY, and 45 Indian INR. The resource cost between Russian resources and US is the same to either country what drives the economic financial price of something is the cost of living America has both a higher standard and cost of living than Russia. If ANY other country built the exact same plane with the exact same resources with the exact some quality then the financial price of manufacture would be determined by the nations cost of living.
I respect the Americans, but the F22 Raptor is not as good as you think about him. watch?v=KaoYz90giTk Wasteful F22 Raptor Program Terminated. The cost of one aircraft $356.000.000. SU T-50 (PAK FA) is three times cheaper, and according to some characteristics superior to F22
@7732929 of course it's going to be 3 times cheaper when they pay their workers 1/3 or less than the American workers. It's called the cost of living and it applies to Governments as well. Russia has still after 2 1/2 decades not recovered from the Economic Meltdown of the Soviet Union. just because it costs less money doesn't mean the resources needed to built it are less expensive in comparison with the economy that builds it.
@7732929 (Coninued) Example Lets say in country a I make 30 dollars an hour and in country B you make 10 dollars an hour. in country A 1 gallon of milk is 3 dollars but in country B milk is 1 dollar a gallon. Milk is cheaper in Country B but the Relative cost to you is the same as the relative cost to me.
@7732929 the superior U.S. Air Force fighter jets will swat like flies all inferior communist Ruskie and Chicom planes out of sky, and fall like plum from tree to ground.
@7732929 Yeah f-22s are expensive as hell. I always wondered, would these G3 fighters even be able to harm one another, given that their stealth systems interfere with most missile's guidance systems?(and some have exhaust deflection to prevent heat-seekers)
@7732929 that cost is incorporating every single penny spent to do anything that has to do with the production of a single aircraft(including the transportation of parts).taking into consideration the fact that russia is almost3x the size of the US,the ACTUAL cost of the T-50 would be about the same.and while the F-22may be a little less maneuverable it is MUCH more stealthy.that vid you linked is as ASININE as they come.the airforce released a full report that disproves EVERYTHING on that vid.
@hotpocketpoison "Little less"?? Ololo! It is SU-37 evolution, so this plane will be in times more maneuverable, than F-22. "MUCH more stealthy" - How do you know? You measured?
@Mohenti well seeing as though the exact goal of the T-50 was to be cheaper and more maneuverable than the raptor, it is obvious that it lost a lot of stealth potential because of that(neglecting purpose shaping to make the aircraft more maneuverable and neglecting RAM and RAP to keep the aircraft cheap),which means while it may be SLIGHTLY more maneuverable it has little to no stealth.
@hotpocketpoison SU-35S More maneuverable rather than F-22, and costs six times less. Why not to make the plane more expensive, and to increase it stealth possibilities? Even in it a case the plane will be cheaper F-22 approximately three times.
Besides I think that a stealth - a popular trade mark from which in real fight of advantage it is not enough.
@Mohenti the T-50 is more expensive because of the more modern avionics. and modern missiles can pull turns that can go up to 36Gs!!! no amount of maneuverability will save you from that, that is why we dont focus on maneuverability but on stealth(which CAN save you from a missile). and as for"3 times cheaper"please,PLEASE read my previous posts!
@hotpocketpoison And how stealth will rescue you? As practice shows, seldom enough fight is won by rockets.
I do not think that now suitable time for comparison stealth characteristics of planes. Taktiko-technical characteristics PAK FA aren't published yet.
@Mohenti stealth makes you a very small target on radar.the raptor has an RCS of 0.0001m2(which is like trying to spot an ant on the radar)and even IF a lock is made the raptor will just have to deploy 1flare(which has a larger RCS than the raptor itself and the heat signature would be immense.not only that but the only way to obtain a lock is to be within100>FEET< of the raptor with the most advanced radar system(the range of the AIM-120D AMRAAM is over 45miles...meaning you are very much dead)
@hotpocketpoison I read that RCS at a raptor makes 0.3 - 0.4. Experts speak About it also. And value 0.0001 looks fantastically. A radar at SU-35S more powerful:Irbis-E. So all bosh. And stealth won't help - rockets in a condition to bring down a similar target.
@Mohenti and the most modern air engagements have all ended with the enemy being destroyed by missiles. using maneuverability to win air battles is as outdated as muskets :P
Ololo. The more maneuverable plane, the is more than chances at him to leave from the rocket. And I am assured that modern air fight isn't defined by that the one who the first will start up the rocket will win.
@Mohenti its not like in video games!!! you cant just"evade"a missile that is MUCH faster and more maneuverable than your plane is. Irbis-E radar cannot detect the raptor at long range(but the raptor can very well detect the T-50 and destroy it before it even knows the raptor is there) and where did you even find this "expert" assumption that the raptor has a RCS of 0.3-4??? it is even stated that the raptor has the RCS of a steel marble...and if you have ever seen a marble THEY ARE VERY SMALL!
@hotpocketpoison I look, you know all about stealth technologies T-50? When designers will publish characteristics T-50 then you can compare. I don't say that it will be impossible to get to the plane the rocket. But also system "has started up, has forgotten" too won't work. And how do you know, what RCS the such? Anyway stealth it was not checked in real operations mind the serious opponent, so all your words - simply theory which most likely seriously differs from practice.
@hotpocketpoison Why you ranting about 36G? some missile have been tested at 80G. And what happens when two enemy aircraft meet at visual range? Your stealth counts for nothing, and maneuverability is everything. You can't always use missiles, sometimes need old fashioned guns.
@copehaha but how in the name of god does the T-50 expect to get within visual range of the F-22 without being obliterated by its missiles LONG beforehand? and remember, the F-22 is NO pushover when it comes to maneuverability, and seeing as though we only put our best pilots in the F-22 they would be LETHAL to any other fighter.
@hotpocketpoison So you think a full out war will just have two planes? That's it? In the heat and confusion of battle, it's very easy (easier than you think) for two supersonic aircraft to meet at visual range. In rules of engagement, visual identification is needed under certain circumstances. You can't always just fire at a green dot on your screen. I like how people forget a little something called self defence missiles. F22 needs to fire from a long range (outside visual range)....continued
...for it to be effective. The longer the range, the more time the PAK50 or "enemy" aircraft has to defend itself. Missiles like IRIS-T are specifically designed to protect against incoming missiles. F-22 doesn't fire "10th generation" missiles, so you're just lying to yourself by assuming each shot will be a kill. Once it fires a missile, it gives away its general location. F22 is no pushover, but most credible sources say PAK50 seems as if it has a dynamic and kinematic edge over the F22
@copehaha first of all the IRIS-T is not used by russia(it is german)and there is no missile carried by fighters that can destroy an incoming missile as small as the AIM-120 or AIM-9. secondly in most large scale conflicts visual identification is only required when there has been a serious problem in communication and that the aircraft MAY be a friendly. but in almost every circumstance an AWACS plane can tell if it is friendly or hostile because it can communicate and wait for a response.
@hotpocketpoison I know full well that IRIS-T is German. I was making an example. The whole point of IRIS-T is to destroy AIM/similar type missiles.
Yes, most friend or foe systems work, but building a system around them and assuming the likes of the F22 will always be out of range is a huge mistake. Fighting the Russians would never be as easy going as Iraq or A-Stan, so communication is bound to take a beating....on both sides
@copehaha the IRIS-T is designed to REPLACE the AIM-9 sidewinder, not destroy them. they are air-air missiles. no missile can destroy something as small,fast,and maneuverable as a sidewinder.
nope....it's dual purpose. Traditional air to air, as well as air defence/self protection. Google it if you like. Same as the A-Darter air to air missile. You dont need a direct hit, just need to get close and detonate.
@copehaha i have searched and cant find anything about shooting down fast moving A-A missiles. maybe slow moving cruise missiles but not things like the sidewinder...im not even sure that is possible.
@7732929 Is the PAK T-50 even stealth? take a look at 2:20 and you can see rivets, not a composite structure. Even the F-117 had no rivets 30 years ago- and we know that was stealth.
They really need to cover up the underbelly and the engine inlet angles. It gives a totally non-stealthy look right now despite being good looking. Also I wonder whether how 16 hard points would be possible here (8 internal and 8 external) as UAC claims.
Stealth isn't about visual stealth, it's about radar and other detection equipment stealth like thermal imaging. And yes they would paint it grey this is a prototype.
America the sheriff of the world will feel threatened by PAK FA and J20, and will start scheming to attack the enemy using preemptive strike as the reason as always, and the world will be behind America, in the end the world will grieve because they realize the sheriff is the real gangster
It is a VERY bad news for USA air force and navy, imagine how many F15, F16 F18 and other 3rd gen fighters are obsolete and how many aircraft carries are vulnerable to attack after J20 enter service. To replace those F15, F16, F18 fighters, how much money USA has to spend? The country is already in deep finical crisis.
But there are some people and companies in USA are cheering, Lockheed Martin must be one of them.
@booloolood these over-price weapons are bad for a country economy. After US government spending billions on weapon systems, the economy is still in bad shape. Weapon manufacturers are robbing American taxpayers.
@jeffhickman10 I feel less safe because the weapons are used in international conflicts , which in turn inspire more terrorist to do sneaky attack worldwide. The billions of dollars spent on weapons could be use domestically to improve life in America and create a safer , better educated public.
@papaburger That's fine. But if anyone thinks the terrorists will leave us alone if we are unarmed is flat out dead wrong. It's not our military that bothers these nutjobs, it's ideology. Think about it. They will murder you and your family because you don't worship/believe as they do. Being unarmed is an invitation for a disaster of heretofore unimaginable chaos. The meek inherit nothing, I lost count on how many times I have said that.
@booloolood The F-15,16 and 18 are old and scheduled for replacement anyway.The US has yet another ace up it's sleeve,combat UAVs.They are cheaper,stealthier,and more capable.As for the J-20,nothing is known of it's capability.It may be no more than a technology test bed with the final designs to come later.
If Superpowers will not stop building weapons... there will be no peace. Human race will be extinguished in the face of the Earth over the next 100 years.
All those making comments about how the f-22 is superior no offense but this thing has a radar specifically designed to track stealth fighters (uses an L-Band radar designed to track "low observable" targets as well as 3 k-band radars). Doesnt take a genius to figure out what its designed to do......that and it sacrificed a little stealth to get more manueverability than the f-22
@calumknight1984 correction x-band radar (X-band is used in radar applications including continuous-wave, pulsed, single-polarization, dual-polarization, synthetic aperture radar, and phased arrays. X-band radar frequency sub-bands are used in civil, military, and government institutions for weather monitoring, air traffic control, maritime vessel traffic control, defense tracking, and vehicle speed detection for law enforcement.) Taken from wiki
Thanks for the compliments about my eyes the word used was similar not identical!! One of the things I love about you tube are the number of people giving off about virtually nothing......
Russians copied off of our F-22 design, however it is different then the F-22. But the U.S. has more then 1,000 of the F-22's, the Sukhoi Pak Fa is still a prototype being tested, and their pilots arent as well trained as the U.S.'s because simply all of the U.S.'s pilots are officers, the Russians are not, meaning the U.S. pilots go through much more training
@pakifucker999999999 actually its 187 to be exact, still more then china has of their j-20 still a prototype and russians sukhoi pak fa still a prototype, however the U.S. has over 1000 that are scheduled to be made, and we still have better pilots...."idiot".....
@Clllllllllllllll You dumb ass, do you look with your eyes, or with your ass? US should work with Chinese, they are copying, F86 is copy of MIG15, F 15 is copy of MIG25, F35 is officiall copy of YAK 141. And PAK fa is very different plane than CRAPTOR F22. similarities are only that bouth have wings and engens. Lern more abaut planes and you will see the differents.
that is the sadest plane, let the us have it they got it better, don't copy them or the USSR technology, think your self. fucking russians are like chinies can't do shit with out coping someone, why don't they get rid of the soviet technology and start on their own...fucking russians
NICE ARGUMENT! WHAT ARE YOU 5 YEARS OLD? FUCKING IGNORAMUS! THIS IS WHY PARENTS SHOULD BE ARRESTED FOR LETTING THEIR RETARDED CHILDREN USE THE COMPUTER.
It's got a wide big BUM. I like it. For the design, what more can one design? With current technology I suppose this is the final frontier of design and craftsmanship.
i still think it's a yf-23 rip-off, but hey if you can't beat them join em, at least sukhoi is way ahead of Mig i think, in terms of stealth and avionics
Pretty much all modern radar can detect stealth. Stealth doesn't make a plane totally invisible to radar, it just make them harder to detect. Example a radar can detect a normal fighter at a range of over 100 miles, with stealth that range might decrease to maybe 20 miles. Which mean that the stealth aircraft can choose to engage, pick the angle of attack, and even lauch it's missiles before the other aircraft even know it's there.
@SphinxTheGeek Whats wrong with copying theirs for a change! They've been copying ours for 50 years! This is just a copy of the YF-23 with horizontal tail surfaces!
try to compare YF-23 and T-50. Also try to look up a Soviet plane named MiG-25 and you will have a perfet example of how YOU copied it in your F-15. Then go sit down, have some beer and feel sorry for yourself.
@xoio Yes but seeing as how the latest Radar systems can easily still detect "Stealth" planes such as the F-22 is make no difference. Besides the SU-50 has demonstrated Superior maneuverability. Sacrificing pointless stealth for the upper hand in a dog fight is a fair trade off no?
I remember reading that shortly after the 117 came out, the french developed a radar sensative enough to detect it, thus compromising the stealth. Of course not all nations have top -tier radar systems... mostly the shitty middle east ones & corrupt african ones, that are breeding Jihadists.....
@anbu4312 Ok, is that why 4/5 A-A kills is made in BVR combat?
-why are you saying "Sacrificing pointless stealth for the upper hand in a dog fight is a fair trade off no?" well... if you can detect enemies at long distance you dont need dogfights, just BVR.
Why is everyone bitching about the color? Are you that stupid? Its obviously the test aircraft. Notice its only yellow on parts that need to be seen for observation like the edges of the wing flaps and air intake to the engines. So stop whining over the color its a military test aircraft its not supposed to be pretty.
If you look carefully at the rear of the airplane, and the landing gear position, you can see that this is not an entirely new airplane, it is a HEAVILY MODIFIED SU-27!!! NO JOKE!..YOU LOOK AT ALL THE ANGLES, ITS AN SU-27 FRAME, WITH "STEALTHY" LOOKING FUSELAGE
Can someone translate what the pilot was saying, The new plane looks nice and as I can tell it flies nice too. Those huge afterburners can be magnets for heat-seeking missiles tho. I guess it's still under development and eventually will get a Sukhoi SU-XX name.
@rap1800 erm - where did you get this from? have you heard something from stresstests?? don't forget that this video is a video from a testflight. so you can't possibly now why the gears where locked, mybe the pilot had a flightplan - pick up and land.
I hope that will be no war cause who ever wins we lose...But in my opinion F-22 are better... i mean if they cost 3 times more than Sukhoi PAK FA T-50 then it must be better.
anoriel146 1 month ago
the f35 lighting is better than this shit!
gegxe 3 months ago
gee it looks like a raptor.
freedomfyter 4 months ago
que f-22 por favor el pak fa t-50 ruso el mejor caza de 5ta generacion del mundo ojala en un futuro no muy lejano en venezuela contemos con estos sorprendentes aviones...
bichibix 5 months ago
@bichibix Que haya comida en las mesas Venezolanas en vez de gastar el dinero de esa forma.
boggey5010 3 months ago
ni black peep?? HAHAH white race rules
IBroLLyISePhIrOtH 5 months ago
This is F-22, just cheap, because the Russians did not learn yet how to make most of it! USA is business orientated, there for they will charge the maximum.
pruseypru 6 months ago
@pruseypru Are you saying that top level engineers and employees at Sukhoi are happy to work for low pay?
ogdocvato 5 months ago
Russian pilot, Russian jet, nice.
Symbiont5 6 months ago
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China's J-20 is better than F-22 and Pak-Fa! watch?v=vJglDs9-mus
greaterchinaforum 7 months ago in playlist oooooooo
Now this is unique, cool and original, not that crap J 20, which is nothing but a copy of the F22 and F 35.
NicolazDamian 7 months ago
In real warld there is no stealth s400 see them all same with su35 ragards from Serbia RUSSIA FOREVER
59nenadftw 7 months ago
Too bad that the americans can pick this up on radar. This air craft looks very non- stealthy
MrWuldntulike2kno 7 months ago
f22 raptor is not a him.. it's a plane. lol why are you top comment?
MrWuldntulike2kno 7 months ago
joke of the year..! so another made in china...? so warranty limited until the missile hits...lol.....haaa china is the breeding ground of filth technology..!
ajitjacobpanicker 7 months ago
Looks way better then the Chinese J-20.
Voss2120 7 months ago
lol anything is cheaper in a communist country. its about the slave driven low salary work they put you through. and that guy below is correct. its 165 million. haha its been over 20 years since the F-22 was desined, OVER 20 YEARS. I think russia is still a little behind..
JohnLGuitarist 7 months ago
Keep Dreaming .
zhongguoren2011 8 months ago
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Always liked the su-37; this is more like a Blackbird/Raptor hybrid. Magnificent...
moonbeam5150 8 months ago
Always liked the su-37; this is more like a Blackbird/Raptor hybrid. Magnificent...
moonbeam5150 8 months ago
I'm willing to believe that this aircraft is probably superior to the J-20 the chinese made simply by the fact that the chinese defense industry still needs to import components such as jet engines to make up for the fact they can't build a comparable product without any trouble.
redwhitedude 8 months ago
@vvsector ...maybe you should take a closer look into what happened back then.
the f15 was the answer to the foxbat. but the americans overestimated the m25 so much that they build one of the most badass planes ever. just look at the combat ratio.
RektalFlottenAdmiral 9 months ago
@7732929 hey we respect russia too. and the cost for the f22 programm was really a huge financial black hole... but that was always the same and never changed. it's the price you pay for being the first one to have something that complex. you also have to see the investments in groundbreaking science to complete a goal like that.. most of the money is not "wasted" but invested into knowledge and new jobs. and of course superiority for a short time.
RektalFlottenAdmiral 9 months ago
one thing i will admit is Sukhoi make better planes than the americans!
australianmade74 9 months ago
forget about comparing with f-22,where is its weapons bay???
vinayreddyn 9 months ago
@vinayreddyn true lol!, maybe its placed in the middle between the engines.
RockRebel1998 9 months ago
Damn Sukhoi definitely knows how to make a sexy fighter.
PancakeFace22 9 months ago 4
T50 is a great Russia plane, it is not a copy of the u.s F22/yf23.Russia just have to export them to others against the F22 in the near future, let wait and see.
powerofthroughts 10 months ago
@z34gtp9395
1 dollar USD = 28 Russian RUB, 6.5 Chinese CNY, and 45 Indian INR. The resource cost between Russian resources and US is the same to either country what drives the economic financial price of something is the cost of living America has both a higher standard and cost of living than Russia. If ANY other country built the exact same plane with the exact same resources with the exact some quality then the financial price of manufacture would be determined by the nations cost of living.
AcomsRazor1776 10 months ago
ne nrawiza - sjebalis nah, bisdaboli a t50 krasaw4ik
75213rr 10 months ago
all very impressive, lets have a drink !
Mr2pint 10 months ago
I respect the Americans, but the F22 Raptor is not as good as you think about him. watch?v=KaoYz90giTk Wasteful F22 Raptor Program Terminated. The cost of one aircraft $356.000.000. SU T-50 (PAK FA) is three times cheaper, and according to some characteristics superior to F22
7732929 10 months ago 32
@7732929 of course it's going to be 3 times cheaper when they pay their workers 1/3 or less than the American workers. It's called the cost of living and it applies to Governments as well. Russia has still after 2 1/2 decades not recovered from the Economic Meltdown of the Soviet Union. just because it costs less money doesn't mean the resources needed to built it are less expensive in comparison with the economy that builds it.
AcomsRazor1776 10 months ago
@7732929 (Coninued) Example Lets say in country a I make 30 dollars an hour and in country B you make 10 dollars an hour. in country A 1 gallon of milk is 3 dollars but in country B milk is 1 dollar a gallon. Milk is cheaper in Country B but the Relative cost to you is the same as the relative cost to me.
AcomsRazor1776 10 months ago
@7732929 the superior U.S. Air Force fighter jets will swat like flies all inferior communist Ruskie and Chicom planes out of sky, and fall like plum from tree to ground.
canaryman69 10 months ago
@canaryman69 lol, get the fuck out of here, u dumb american retarded twat with all your lame planes..
DirtyThing20 10 months ago
@7732929 Nicer plane too, even though I have no sympathy for Russians
Boggoranthius 8 months ago
@7732929 Nicer plane too, methinks; even though I have no sympathy for Russians
Boggoranthius 8 months ago
@7732929 the price of an F-22 is 165million, alot people on the news and on you tube are stupid and make false reports.
tonygogap 7 months ago
@7732929 Yeah f-22s are expensive as hell. I always wondered, would these G3 fighters even be able to harm one another, given that their stealth systems interfere with most missile's guidance systems?(and some have exhaust deflection to prevent heat-seekers)
ig88bc 7 months ago
@7732929 that cost is incorporating every single penny spent to do anything that has to do with the production of a single aircraft(including the transportation of parts).taking into consideration the fact that russia is almost3x the size of the US,the ACTUAL cost of the T-50 would be about the same.and while the F-22may be a little less maneuverable it is MUCH more stealthy.that vid you linked is as ASININE as they come.the airforce released a full report that disproves EVERYTHING on that vid.
hotpocketpoison 6 months ago
@hotpocketpoison "Little less"?? Ololo! It is SU-37 evolution, so this plane will be in times more maneuverable, than F-22. "MUCH more stealthy" - How do you know? You measured?
Mohenti 6 months ago
@Mohenti well seeing as though the exact goal of the T-50 was to be cheaper and more maneuverable than the raptor, it is obvious that it lost a lot of stealth potential because of that(neglecting purpose shaping to make the aircraft more maneuverable and neglecting RAM and RAP to keep the aircraft cheap),which means while it may be SLIGHTLY more maneuverable it has little to no stealth.
hotpocketpoison 6 months ago
@hotpocketpoison SU-35S More maneuverable rather than F-22, and costs six times less. Why not to make the plane more expensive, and to increase it stealth possibilities? Even in it a case the plane will be cheaper F-22 approximately three times.
Besides I think that a stealth - a popular trade mark from which in real fight of advantage it is not enough.
Mohenti 6 months ago
@Mohenti the T-50 is more expensive because of the more modern avionics. and modern missiles can pull turns that can go up to 36Gs!!! no amount of maneuverability will save you from that, that is why we dont focus on maneuverability but on stealth(which CAN save you from a missile). and as for"3 times cheaper"please,PLEASE read my previous posts!
hotpocketpoison 6 months ago
@hotpocketpoison And how stealth will rescue you? As practice shows, seldom enough fight is won by rockets.
I do not think that now suitable time for comparison stealth characteristics of planes. Taktiko-technical characteristics PAK FA aren't published yet.
Mohenti 6 months ago
@Mohenti stealth makes you a very small target on radar.the raptor has an RCS of 0.0001m2(which is like trying to spot an ant on the radar)and even IF a lock is made the raptor will just have to deploy 1flare(which has a larger RCS than the raptor itself and the heat signature would be immense.not only that but the only way to obtain a lock is to be within100>FEET< of the raptor with the most advanced radar system(the range of the AIM-120D AMRAAM is over 45miles...meaning you are very much dead)
hotpocketpoison 6 months ago
@hotpocketpoison I read that RCS at a raptor makes 0.3 - 0.4. Experts speak About it also. And value 0.0001 looks fantastically. A radar at SU-35S more powerful:Irbis-E. So all bosh. And stealth won't help - rockets in a condition to bring down a similar target.
Mohenti 6 months ago
@Mohenti and the most modern air engagements have all ended with the enemy being destroyed by missiles. using maneuverability to win air battles is as outdated as muskets :P
hotpocketpoison 6 months ago
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Mohenti 6 months ago
Ololo. The more maneuverable plane, the is more than chances at him to leave from the rocket. And I am assured that modern air fight isn't defined by that the one who the first will start up the rocket will win.
Mohenti 6 months ago
@Mohenti its not like in video games!!! you cant just"evade"a missile that is MUCH faster and more maneuverable than your plane is. Irbis-E radar cannot detect the raptor at long range(but the raptor can very well detect the T-50 and destroy it before it even knows the raptor is there) and where did you even find this "expert" assumption that the raptor has a RCS of 0.3-4??? it is even stated that the raptor has the RCS of a steel marble...and if you have ever seen a marble THEY ARE VERY SMALL!
hotpocketpoison 6 months ago
@hotpocketpoison I look, you know all about stealth technologies T-50? When designers will publish characteristics T-50 then you can compare. I don't say that it will be impossible to get to the plane the rocket. But also system "has started up, has forgotten" too won't work. And how do you know, what RCS the such? Anyway stealth it was not checked in real operations mind the serious opponent, so all your words - simply theory which most likely seriously differs from practice.
Mohenti 6 months ago
@hotpocketpoison Why you ranting about 36G? some missile have been tested at 80G. And what happens when two enemy aircraft meet at visual range? Your stealth counts for nothing, and maneuverability is everything. You can't always use missiles, sometimes need old fashioned guns.
copehaha 2 months ago
@copehaha but how in the name of god does the T-50 expect to get within visual range of the F-22 without being obliterated by its missiles LONG beforehand? and remember, the F-22 is NO pushover when it comes to maneuverability, and seeing as though we only put our best pilots in the F-22 they would be LETHAL to any other fighter.
hotpocketpoison 2 months ago
@hotpocketpoison So you think a full out war will just have two planes? That's it? In the heat and confusion of battle, it's very easy (easier than you think) for two supersonic aircraft to meet at visual range. In rules of engagement, visual identification is needed under certain circumstances. You can't always just fire at a green dot on your screen. I like how people forget a little something called self defence missiles. F22 needs to fire from a long range (outside visual range)....continued
copehaha 2 months ago
...for it to be effective. The longer the range, the more time the PAK50 or "enemy" aircraft has to defend itself. Missiles like IRIS-T are specifically designed to protect against incoming missiles. F-22 doesn't fire "10th generation" missiles, so you're just lying to yourself by assuming each shot will be a kill. Once it fires a missile, it gives away its general location. F22 is no pushover, but most credible sources say PAK50 seems as if it has a dynamic and kinematic edge over the F22
copehaha 2 months ago
@copehaha first of all the IRIS-T is not used by russia(it is german)and there is no missile carried by fighters that can destroy an incoming missile as small as the AIM-120 or AIM-9. secondly in most large scale conflicts visual identification is only required when there has been a serious problem in communication and that the aircraft MAY be a friendly. but in almost every circumstance an AWACS plane can tell if it is friendly or hostile because it can communicate and wait for a response.
hotpocketpoison 2 months ago
@hotpocketpoison I know full well that IRIS-T is German. I was making an example. The whole point of IRIS-T is to destroy AIM/similar type missiles.
Yes, most friend or foe systems work, but building a system around them and assuming the likes of the F22 will always be out of range is a huge mistake. Fighting the Russians would never be as easy going as Iraq or A-Stan, so communication is bound to take a beating....on both sides
copehaha 2 months ago
@copehaha the IRIS-T is designed to REPLACE the AIM-9 sidewinder, not destroy them. they are air-air missiles. no missile can destroy something as small,fast,and maneuverable as a sidewinder.
hotpocketpoison 2 months ago
@hotpocketpoison
nope....it's dual purpose. Traditional air to air, as well as air defence/self protection. Google it if you like. Same as the A-Darter air to air missile. You dont need a direct hit, just need to get close and detonate.
copehaha 2 months ago
@copehaha i have searched and cant find anything about shooting down fast moving A-A missiles. maybe slow moving cruise missiles but not things like the sidewinder...im not even sure that is possible.
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Mohenti 6 months ago
@7732929 I agree completely, but I do not respect Americans)))
Mohenti 6 months ago
@7732929 Is the PAK T-50 even stealth? take a look at 2:20 and you can see rivets, not a composite structure. Even the F-117 had no rivets 30 years ago- and we know that was stealth.
manofimagination 3 months ago
@7732929 But it is less stealthier and less agile than F-22, and it cant carry as many weapons as F-22.
F22raptor46 3 weeks ago
copia barata del raptor
tito39287 11 months ago
looks like an f-16xl and yf-23 hybrid.
Relistener 11 months ago
just a plane
sanalbey 11 months ago
GREAT JOB RUSSIA!!! -CHINAMAN
ervin920 11 months ago 11
round shapes and nude metal on back of plane not very good for stealth
LostSpider 11 months ago
They really need to cover up the underbelly and the engine inlet angles. It gives a totally non-stealthy look right now despite being good looking. Also I wonder whether how 16 hard points would be possible here (8 internal and 8 external) as UAC claims.
Saffronwing1 11 months ago
lets just hope we never have to test our technologies.
nova2384 11 months ago
is yellow a stealthy color?
ervin920 1 year ago
Stealth isn't about visual stealth, it's about radar and other detection equipment stealth like thermal imaging. And yes they would paint it grey this is a prototype.
princepersia1 11 months ago
j20is the best
i94loveu1 1 year ago
looks just like the YF-23 from the early 90s but with a conventional tail. absolutely stunning
skrape110 1 year ago
The first line of defence is simple. You want peace, prepare war.
Si vis pacem para bellum.
rockerwola 1 year ago
The US and Russia stealth fighters seem better than the Chinese one.
junkers1337 1 year ago
the russians need to catch up.. fire the designers. same old boring design. are the russians brain dead?
Kovayaj 1 year ago
PAK-FA and J-20 will rape F-22 and F-35
kurniadia 1 year ago
America the sheriff of the world will feel threatened by PAK FA and J20, and will start scheming to attack the enemy using preemptive strike as the reason as always, and the world will be behind America, in the end the world will grieve because they realize the sheriff is the real gangster
kurniadia 1 year ago
In Russia, fighter jet flies pilot - Seems like something my buddy Sergio would say.
nuggz503 1 year ago
Yeaa New planes for ace combat!!
wilson3a10 1 year ago
I just hope the T-50 and J-20 will apears in Ace Combat 7~\(≧▽≦)/~
mr52359289 1 year ago
It is a VERY bad news for USA air force and navy, imagine how many F15, F16 F18 and other 3rd gen fighters are obsolete and how many aircraft carries are vulnerable to attack after J20 enter service. To replace those F15, F16, F18 fighters, how much money USA has to spend? The country is already in deep finical crisis.
But there are some people and companies in USA are cheering, Lockheed Martin must be one of them.
booloolood 1 year ago
@booloolood these over-price weapons are bad for a country economy. After US government spending billions on weapon systems, the economy is still in bad shape. Weapon manufacturers are robbing American taxpayers.
papaburger 1 year ago
@papaburger They're also keeping the American taxpayer safe.
jeffhickman10 1 year ago
@jeffhickman10 I feel less safe because the weapons are used in international conflicts , which in turn inspire more terrorist to do sneaky attack worldwide. The billions of dollars spent on weapons could be use domestically to improve life in America and create a safer , better educated public.
papaburger 1 year ago
@papaburger That's fine. But if anyone thinks the terrorists will leave us alone if we are unarmed is flat out dead wrong. It's not our military that bothers these nutjobs, it's ideology. Think about it. They will murder you and your family because you don't worship/believe as they do. Being unarmed is an invitation for a disaster of heretofore unimaginable chaos. The meek inherit nothing, I lost count on how many times I have said that.
jeffhickman10 1 year ago
@booloolood The F-15,16 and 18 are old and scheduled for replacement anyway.The US has yet another ace up it's sleeve,combat UAVs.They are cheaper,stealthier,and more capable.As for the J-20,nothing is known of it's capability.It may be no more than a technology test bed with the final designs to come later.
RedStormRising250 1 year ago
If Superpowers will not stop building weapons... there will be no peace. Human race will be extinguished in the face of the Earth over the next 100 years.
MasterJezzie 1 year ago
All those making comments about how the f-22 is superior no offense but this thing has a radar specifically designed to track stealth fighters (uses an L-Band radar designed to track "low observable" targets as well as 3 k-band radars). Doesnt take a genius to figure out what its designed to do......that and it sacrificed a little stealth to get more manueverability than the f-22
calumknight1984 1 year ago
@calumknight1984 correction x-band radar (X-band is used in radar applications including continuous-wave, pulsed, single-polarization, dual-polarization, synthetic aperture radar, and phased arrays. X-band radar frequency sub-bands are used in civil, military, and government institutions for weather monitoring, air traffic control, maritime vessel traffic control, defense tracking, and vehicle speed detection for law enforcement.) Taken from wiki
calumknight1984 1 year ago
who copied who? the stealth tech itself is russian, sneaked out and developed in the US
ajitjacobpanicker 1 year ago
@ajitjacobpanicker TEH HISTORY OF STEALTH TECH.
Developed by USSR
F-22 and F-35 designed by a Russian
Russia builds its own stealth fighter...
China hacks US and steals data from the F-22 and F-35 BPC's and builds their own stealth fighter
ilikewarhammer 1 year ago
MAPO MIG must be very jealous
alongthebluff 1 year ago
Gorgeous!
buurscha 1 year ago
that is the end of F22 dominance . Yeah !
papaburger 1 year ago
@papaburger The F-22 never dominated...it never saw combat...lol
ilikewarhammer 1 year ago
flankerism
zenglanmu 1 year ago
Looks sexier than F-22, F-35, & J-20. The only 5th generation aircraft prettier than this was the defunct YF-23.
milvipes 1 year ago
look slim but powerfull
kmonsok 1 year ago
It is better to keep you mouth shut and let everyone think you are stupid than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
swiftshaw 1 year ago
Thanks for the compliment about my eyes , the word used was only similar NOT identical...
swiftshaw 1 year ago
Thanks for the compliments about my eyes the word used was similar not identical!! One of the things I love about you tube are the number of people giving off about virtually nothing......
swiftshaw 1 year ago
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swiftshaw 1 year ago
amazing how this and the new Chinese stealth fighter look very similar
swiftshaw 1 year ago
@swiftshaw you must have eye defect or somthing look at them properly
pakifucker999999999 1 year ago
@pakifucker999999999 the word used was SIMILAR not IDENTICAL thanks for the eye compliment
swiftshaw 1 year ago
@swiftshaw i guse you have an brain defect too , thake a better look at those pictures...of f22,pakfa,and j20 ,
pakifucker999999999 1 year ago
The F-35 and F-22 have already proven weak in wargames youtube "the truth of the F-22"
MagicpotatoAus 1 year ago
Awesome..... The F-22 had it's first flight in 1990...So that puts Russia only 20 years behind. But It's a good piece of machinery...For sure.
DZimmer000 1 year ago
Russians copied off of our F-22 design, however it is different then the F-22. But the U.S. has more then 1,000 of the F-22's, the Sukhoi Pak Fa is still a prototype being tested, and their pilots arent as well trained as the U.S.'s because simply all of the U.S.'s pilots are officers, the Russians are not, meaning the U.S. pilots go through much more training
deathb4dishonorUSMC 1 year ago
@deathb4dishonorUSMC idiot less than 190 ..fighter ...
pakifucker999999999 1 year ago
@pakifucker999999999 actually its 187 to be exact, still more then china has of their j-20 still a prototype and russians sukhoi pak fa still a prototype, however the U.S. has over 1000 that are scheduled to be made, and we still have better pilots...."idiot".....
deathb4dishonorUSMC 1 year ago
@deathb4dishonorUSMC f22 production has stoped like lastyear ,1000 of f35 not f22 ....
pakifucker999999999 1 year ago
lol everybody knows they stole it from acecombat's morgan adfx-02
djorkid 1 year ago
they must work together with chinese copycat engineers.
Clllllllllllllll 1 year ago
@Clllllllllllllll You dumb ass, do you look with your eyes, or with your ass? US should work with Chinese, they are copying, F86 is copy of MIG15, F 15 is copy of MIG25, F35 is officiall copy of YAK 141. And PAK fa is very different plane than CRAPTOR F22. similarities are only that bouth have wings and engens. Lern more abaut planes and you will see the differents.
mikeplay007 1 year ago
that is the sadest plane, let the us have it they got it better, don't copy them or the USSR technology, think your self. fucking russians are like chinies can't do shit with out coping someone, why don't they get rid of the soviet technology and start on their own...fucking russians
75spa 1 year ago
NICE ARGUMENT! WHAT ARE YOU 5 YEARS OLD? FUCKING IGNORAMUS! THIS IS WHY PARENTS SHOULD BE ARRESTED FOR LETTING THEIR RETARDED CHILDREN USE THE COMPUTER.
MrTheaterjunkee 1 year ago
It's got a wide big BUM. I like it. For the design, what more can one design? With current technology I suppose this is the final frontier of design and craftsmanship.
amjani9 1 year ago
i still think it's a yf-23 rip-off, but hey if you can't beat them join em, at least sukhoi is way ahead of Mig i think, in terms of stealth and avionics
blana76 1 year ago
@blana76 Sukhoi actually bought some of boeings technology for this, thats why it incorporates similar intake and rudder design
still a fantastic piece of work tho, sukhoi really knows how to make beautiful planes
Wyvern0110 1 year ago
they need to redevelop the backend
ThirdRomeAquilo 1 year ago
@ThirdRomeAquilo they are, the T-50 prototype is not using the same engine design as the production model
Wyvern0110 1 year ago
It looks like a half painted Tamiya model kit! :)
IK1963 1 year ago
YF-23 ALLLLLLLLLL the way sergeant
blana76 1 year ago
Pretty much all modern radar can detect stealth. Stealth doesn't make a plane totally invisible to radar, it just make them harder to detect. Example a radar can detect a normal fighter at a range of over 100 miles, with stealth that range might decrease to maybe 20 miles. Which mean that the stealth aircraft can choose to engage, pick the angle of attack, and even lauch it's missiles before the other aircraft even know it's there.
sleeplespsycho 1 year ago
PAK FA has the fastest missile and better radar range!
HawkZachary 1 year ago
F-35 is a lame Yak-141 copy anyways.
SphinxTheGeek 1 year ago 27
@SphinxTheGeek That's some epic comback
GPSaBu 1 year ago
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@SphinxTheGeek you are a douche bag
bordersoldier 10 months ago
@SphinxTheGeek Whats wrong with copying theirs for a change! They've been copying ours for 50 years! This is just a copy of the YF-23 with horizontal tail surfaces!
pg1171 10 months ago
@pg1171
try to compare YF-23 and T-50. Also try to look up a Soviet plane named MiG-25 and you will have a perfet example of how YOU copied it in your F-15. Then go sit down, have some beer and feel sorry for yourself.
vvsector1 10 months ago
@pg1171 Don't get butthurt too much, dear.
SphinxTheGeek 8 months ago
YF-23 & F-22 secret love child.
Unfortunately a lot of the stealth employed gets shagged by the big ass conventional engine exhausts, giving out huge heat signatures.
xoio 1 year ago
@xoio Yes but seeing as how the latest Radar systems can easily still detect "Stealth" planes such as the F-22 is make no difference. Besides the SU-50 has demonstrated Superior maneuverability. Sacrificing pointless stealth for the upper hand in a dog fight is a fair trade off no?
anbu4312 1 year ago
@anbu4312 - Good point!
I remember reading that shortly after the 117 came out, the french developed a radar sensative enough to detect it, thus compromising the stealth. Of course not all nations have top -tier radar systems... mostly the shitty middle east ones & corrupt african ones, that are breeding Jihadists.....
xoio 1 year ago
@xoio Yes but I think we can all agree it's best that they do not posses such technologies lol
anbu4312 1 year ago
@anbu4312 :-D
xoio 1 year ago
@anbu4312 Ok, is that why 4/5 A-A kills is made in BVR combat?
-why are you saying "Sacrificing pointless stealth for the upper hand in a dog fight is a fair trade off no?" well... if you can detect enemies at long distance you dont need dogfights, just BVR.
JVC7400 1 year ago
nice looking
diveplane 1 year ago
mm not so sure abt that looks like it could drop out the sky any min haha
bodunchar 1 year ago
Why is everyone bitching about the color? Are you that stupid? Its obviously the test aircraft. Notice its only yellow on parts that need to be seen for observation like the edges of the wing flaps and air intake to the engines. So stop whining over the color its a military test aircraft its not supposed to be pretty.
Red96onwhite 1 year ago
They are set to presents to the world a brand new airplane without a decent paint scheme?
cristianocollarin 1 year ago
amazing close to YF-23...wonder where they got blue print from...
sgillai 1 year ago
Ахаха пендосы во всё горло орут что это скопированно у них
1Aeeeeeee 1 year ago
prediction: nato codename: Flounder
solarnight25 1 year ago
The guy at 3:12 is the guy who was head designer of Su-47!!
TonyFirelli 1 year ago 4
russia alway put color doesn't match on there stuff
Duhitpt 1 year ago
@Duhitpt You talking about the green primer?
delfstar 1 year ago
If you look carefully at the rear of the airplane, and the landing gear position, you can see that this is not an entirely new airplane, it is a HEAVILY MODIFIED SU-27!!! NO JOKE!..YOU LOOK AT ALL THE ANGLES, ITS AN SU-27 FRAME, WITH "STEALTHY" LOOKING FUSELAGE
dnlcast2 1 year ago
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This aircraft looks like a usa version of the t-50 ?
eddi1515 1 year ago
This aircraft looks like a Russian version of the YF-23.
zmansporscheboxster 1 year ago
This plane try to create in 1984. Not copy..
AHTOIIIKA 1 year ago
The point of the video is that now other nations besides our nation has stealth technology.
If conflict ever occurs between two nations - who possess stealth - an airwar will be now focused on tactics rather than, technological supremecy.
I am very happy that Russia has the ability to produce stealth - its a real achievement despite some similar design features.
wasupbigchief 1 year ago
At least no other nation will come and take the Land, only Chinese will try in the future :D
TheUgallu 1 year ago
Can someone translate what the pilot was saying, The new plane looks nice and as I can tell it flies nice too. Those huge afterburners can be magnets for heat-seeking missiles tho. I guess it's still under development and eventually will get a Sukhoi SU-XX name.
Giardintek 1 year ago
EL PAK T 50 SERA EL NEMESIS DEL F 22 RAPTOR. PUES FUE CONSTRUIDO EXCLUSIVAMENTE PARA VENCERLO EN BATALLA. SALUDOS DE PERU.
Sukohing 1 year ago
does this remind anyone else of the YF-23?
sergeant137 1 year ago 2
@sergeant137 looks familiar... lol complete copy
forrestc3 1 year ago
@sergeant137 F-15\16 reminds me of Mig-25\31
Bibazavr 1 year ago
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monimstarfox 1 year ago
@monimstarfox
oh lol sorry. Was talking about f-15 eagle.
Bibazavr 1 year ago
@Bibazavr
oh then i apologize
monimstarfox 1 year ago
@sergeant137 first thing that crossed my mind
duurtlang11 1 year ago
@sergeant137 NO
donjuan4you 1 year ago
@sergeant137 Yes I believe they took more from the F-23 than the F-22 when designing this aircraft.
anbu4312 1 year ago
@sergeant137
A little bit. Leastthe Russians knew not to copy the F-22, for the Craptors a piece of expensive shit.
scarface8999 1 year ago
@scarface8999
and the Russians didnt copy, they were inspired to make something better, and they did.
scarface8999 1 year ago
@sergeant137 I mentioned that too...then the sukhoi junkies jumped on me. It took 20 years for them to copy it.
Nazgul001 1 year ago
The aft section looks like the su27 from there on skunk works. awsome looking aircraft
BADDBOY1Z 1 year ago
a 4th Generation plane in the supposed shape of a 5th generation plane. It still is a damn pretty plane for sure.
RafaleC77th 1 year ago
cheap piece of Russian shit cant even retract its landing gear!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA
rap1800 1 year ago
@rap1800 erm - where did you get this from? have you heard something from stresstests?? don't forget that this video is a video from a testflight. so you can't possibly now why the gears where locked, mybe the pilot had a flightplan - pick up and land.
sipachevg 1 year ago
@rap1800
it's maiden flight, the rules forbid to retract 'em