Ja so ist es gemeint - das Tempo sitzt - Good work and the rhythm is brilliant - not slow not fast - this is joy in my ears Geehrter Herrr Koopman vielen Dank - best regards from Leipzig JSB Cantor
@5050zulu1 Bach's music invites infinite variety of experience. Consider, though, that the ladies at the beginning are singing a relatively archaic choral tune (1599) that serves as the point of departure for this chorale prelude; it would have been sung by pre-pubescent choirboys in Bach's time. The guy in between the ladies is singing the florid free counterpoint inspired by the choral, like a bee buzzing around a flower. All this is lovely to me. Only your assumption: "still=cold" disturbs.
Bach was a taskmaster who tolerated only letter perfect performance. After all he wrote music for every Sunday in the church year plus oratorios concertos and toccata and fugue etc. This is Germanic work ethic plus detail dedication with no compromises It dwarfs the works of most of his contemporaries and incredibly achieves a plane of music unique to himself Astounds the listener!!!
@ken38urb When you say "wrote music for every Sunday", you must be referring to his activities in Leipzig. I doubt there was time to prepare the kind of "letter perfect performance" you've come to expect in concerts and recordings. He had no music composition/notation software or copy machine. Every part had to be copied out by hand before there could even be a rehearsal. He had other responsibilities besides preparing for a Sunday performance. And he had many private students.
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the blond lady gave me a boner and the ice lady too, and so the lady in black, the blond in black, and a couple more ladys (not the violinist in blue though, she looks like a mean drunk to me)
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the blond lady gave me a boner and the ice lady too, and so the lady in black, the blond in black, and a couple more ladys (not the violinist in blue though, she looks like a mean drunk to me)
@5050zulu1 Actually the swaying doesn't bother me that much--just looks a little odd in this highly disciplined group.Maybe more often seen in a small local church choir. But for you to call the woman next to her an ice maiden seemed mean and unfair--to me she has the look of intense concentration,not too different from the rest of the choir. Looks like many agree with me--a surprising number of thumbs up in a short time. Btw, what would Bach great the disciplinarian have thought? Sort of funny.
Lovely rendition of this great work of musical art by Bach. 2011 represents 150th year of friendship between Germany and Japan and quite a few cultural exchanges are taking place including music. Danke schoen! eijiro odagiri, Japanese music lover
@railtrailer44 the blond lady gave me a boner and the ice lady too, and so the lady in black, the blond in black, and a couple more ladys (not the violinist in blue though, she looks like a mean drunk to me)
I listened to this Cantata 140 and other great Bach music sung by Tokyo Baroch Scholars in Tokyo recently. Great work of musical art by Bach. So great that even Softbank Mobile is using this as the background music for their new TV Commercial. Eiji Tanaka
German were small people way back in time; composing giant ambitious works, and the reaction was that, small other people were not understanding anything from composers like Bach or Beethoven, because they were kind of genius with different ideas at their time, there was Hitler too who were small with giant plans to change the world. It was like steps for themselves to look greater in their small shapes !!
@Sylvain894 Great! What a cute thing, having to cope with a nazi while listening to this. Well, I suppose Hitler would have had Mahler burnt, because he was a jew. History exists for something, dude, if only for not watching idiots wearing the SS uniform again.
@zariguella1930 Well; i'm not a Hitler supporter, but i readed about him; there were so plenty of contradictions during the war, and Mr Hitler wasn't a man of indecision, his ideas were clear, excepted maybe at his last days on earth ! Burning Malher would be so awful, and nazy people were not idiots to condamn such musical genius that he was; cause everybody has a musical curiosity genius to discover even the worst composers ! So, they would not burn Mr Malher, but maybe only forbid his works!!
@Sylvain894 Well, there's so many thing I would like to ask you about, for example, what exactly did you read, because the verb itself doesn't give much weight to any of your arguments. It's so nice, so the thing is tha forbiding the works of people like Mahler, Schoenberg or Brüch it's OK, as long as you don't actually kill them phisically. But, at the end, only one thing: what does that genocidal brute have to do with the great composers and the wonderful piece posted here?
@zariguella1930 First i'm a guy from French culture, not a fighter, i try to explain in English i have learned by myself so it's like you if you try to explain something totally in French; i was remarking that these people had been great musical interests, even Hitler ! You're probably take me for another guy !! Expressing in English my point of view ain't easy and may be deconvenient for some that assimilate it better !
@zariguella1930 First i'm a guy from French culture, not a fighter, i try to explain in English i have learned by myself so it's like you if you try to explain something totally in French; i was remarking that these people had been great musical interests, even Hitler ! You're probably take me for another guy !! Expressing in English my point of view ain't easy and may be inconvenient for some that assimilate it better !
@zariguella1930 First i'm a guy from French culture, not a fighter, i try to explain in English i have learned by myself so it's like you if you try to explain something totally in French; i was remarking that these people had great musical interests, even Hitler ! You're probably take me for another guy !! Expressing in English my point of view ain't easy and may be inconvenient for some that assimilate it better !
This remains my favorite rendition of my favorite movement of my favorite cantata. Now ... that said...notice the two gentlemen in the chorus on the ends of the rows on the right side (from audience perspective). What do you bet they are brothers? Maybe even twins! Watch 3:21 - 3:28
The alto phrase "aleluia" beguinning at 4:26 is possibly one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard. It's unexpected, though seeming at the same time the only logical development there could be... hail the genius Bach!
@Altoclarinets Me too. Outrageously good sound. And I love watching the first violinist. If I were learning baroque violin I would want her for a teacher.
Beautifull! I think, that there is no progress with historical practice performance since this years, when Koopman, Gardiner and others recerded their main things. We canonly learn from them in my opinion.
Wonderful performance! Very stylistic. I love the period instruments; the player of the natural horn is particularly impressive. Excellent choir and orchestra. Koopman is top-notch!
There something about Bach's music that makes me feel as if I known his music since forever, or maybe its a fulfillment of my life, I had to listen to his music, I just had to.
@RumoAoSul I agree. Every time I hear a Koopman Version of Bach I tend to sit up and take notice moreso than some of the other recordings. I love to compare and contrast.
I just looked the word alto up in the Oxford Concise English dictionary. It says in part: "Highest male voice." The word alto is now commonly used in place of the more correct contralto which is the female equivalent singing in the same range as the male alto.
Given that English's greatest strength is its ability to adopt, adapt and morph constantly without a group of academics dictating what it should be; I accept that 'alto' is fine for SATB choirs but not where men take the alto part.
@cluttj Alto is a male voice. The female version is the contralto. I used to sing alto regularly in choirs recreating music like Handel's Messial sympathetic to how it was originally presented with Trebles, Altos etc. I now sing in a male choir and frequently need to sing in my falsetto or 'alto' voice.
@donaldrose: Alto is a **female** voice (or wiki says: "alto" describes the second highest voice part in a four-part chorus. ). We're singing this masterpiece right now. You can see this at the beginning of the fugue. This part is for the lower womens.
@TVBurundi A friend of mine is a very fine (and famous) English countertenor. He also refers to himself and the parts he sings as "alto." In scores of the renaissance and even later, the part in that range was often labeled "altus"--no always "tenor." We, too, may be flexible in how we apply the term.
@cluttj Hilarious? Actually, common, and in keeping with the historical performance of this music, which would have had boys on the highest part as well.
Like Koopman and his experiment, but this opening movement is a bit disappointing as far as the singers go lacking the force I usually here from his forces. The orchestra is stunning and the chorus (in all of the later movements) beautifully engaged - but just too soft focused in much of this (notably the tenors who melt my heart in "Zion hört die wächter singen" - breathtaking). Still, an overall beautiful performance of one of Bach's most beautiful moments.
On most You Tube vocal music videos, extant sniping comprises assessments of voices, usually sopranos. With Bach, battle royales concern the virtues of different conductors.
Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme Der Wächter sehr hoch auf der Zinne, Wach auf, du Stadt Jerusalem! Mitternacht heißt diese Stunde; Sie rufen uns mit hellem Munde: Wo seid ihr klugen Jungfrauen? Wohl auf, der Bräutgam kömmt; Steht auf, die Lampen nehmt! Alleluja! Macht euch bereit Zu der Hochzeit, Ihr müsset ihm entgegen gehn!
One reason for the motionless is for absolute precision control over the airway and enunciation.
Bach himself wrote of the need for vocalists to remain still and 'in perfection', not only for good sound production, but also in humble service to the music.
Unfortunately, many performers (though not that lady in blue) seem to feel the need to resemble a treetop in a hurricane, waving this way and that, as though the performance were about them and not the music.
@treimers95 I agree. Much like classic pianists and keeping their backs straight and having their arms and wrists in proper position- unlike the swaying "emotional" style of playing we often see on tv. Unless you're Liberace, of course, then you would be the exception. And he's the only exception because he's in a league of his own.
One reason for the motionless is for absolute precision control over the airway and enunciation.
Bach himself wrote of the need for vocalists to remain still and 'in perfection', not only for good sound production, but also in humble service to the music.
Unfortunately, many performers (though not that lady in blue) seem to feel the need to resemble a treetop in a hurricane, waving this way and that, as though the performance were about them and not the music.
Yes, but joy is not necessarily noticeable. I know that when I sing Bach, my face is almost unchanged, however my soul is in deep swirl of emotions, joy, gratitude, admiration etc.
@5050zulu1 you could call Miles Davis the same because he was almost always serious playing jazz, he looked harsh and focused but it didn't mean he wasn't playing with soul, did it?
I'd like this, if I haven't heard Richter's rendition first. Sorry, but Ton Koopman and his orchestra may be good on the technical level, but just that.
I love this tempo and everything else about this fine choir and orchestra!
This my favourite Bach cantata and I had to study this great work for GCE in Music - a long time ago and I was captivated by the rhythm pulsing through it and, of course, Bach's wonderful writing!
Many thanks for uploading this magnificent version
being a music major, I had to take listening quizzes in my music history courses. I had to memorize every bloody detail about each song and spout it back on a test just by listening to about 30 seconds of it. I hated it, but now i'm thankful because it exposed me to great music like this :) love it
Sorry to bother you, but I had to comment after reading your post. I was a music theory major at Furman University (WAY BACK IN THE MIDDLE AGES - The 1980's) and experienced much the same predicament (only it was Ravel's Bolero). TALK ABOUT DIFFICULT!!! We could only listen to the distant recording and had to name every instrument as they appeard ed and in combination......I'm surprised I passed!!!!!! Thanks for being a fellow TRUE music lover!
@SordidGuy If you were a music major at FU in the middle ages, then I was a music major there during the dark ages (mid 70's). How I suffered through some of it, too! But thank goodness for the tough ones... like Charlotte Smith, for example. She whupped me every chance she got (and I gave her plenty of chances). If it hadn't been for her... and Bob Chesebro... I'd not have amounted to much, I suspect.
Charlotte was my idol and one of the main reasons I opted for Music Theory as a major. She ALWAYS gave me the most difficult assignments (I was her "chosen one" for two years, I guess). OH HOW I MISS THOSE DAYS!!!!!! Thanks for helping bring back the wonderful memories......Michael
This is absolutely perfect on every level (and wonderfully authentic). The vocal trills by the sopranos are simply astounding!!!!!! THANK YOU for posting this, Bacholoji......
wspaniale....to za mało powiedziane:)Genialne tempo, brzmienie, oparcie, chór -lekkość , miękkość i ekspresja w jednym- to coś więcej niż muzyka, a może to jest właśnie MUZYKA?
WHAT a brilliant choir! And orchestra, etc. The tenor at 4:26 is fantastic. His 16th note runs are so precise! I wish I knew more about this choir: who are they and where are they from?
@Zackiesmomma Actually, these guys sing alto, I've sung this Cantata before (I'm a tenor) and this is the alto part. Bach often used male altos, as it was common practice in those days.
That is really phenomenal singing. I miss being in choirs. But I did find out about this choir... based in Amsterdam and it's a Baroque orchestra and choir, which I'd love to go see. Well thank you for the information on Bach using males as altos. I'm ashamed! Bach and Handel are my favorites! One would have to have studied Bach's choral writing more or be a student of the Baroque to know that? Or I just slept through that day in Music History class.
This is the Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra and Choir directed by Ton Koopman. They've recorded all of Bach's Cantatas in a wondefull series of 22 CD-albums. I highly recommend them, and have collected all but one of the albums over the past years. I;ve witnessed some of the live performances as well. Awesome.
Well!!! And the main reason for Bach to compose religious music in Leipzig is because he worked for the church. It is not rdt425?... And if Bach worked for the Devil? What music did?... Diabolical music.
@koyunbaba73 the only other person who can come close to what bach did, is another german composer, GF Handel. Bach is second to none. To God be the glory!
Why is it so big of a concept to think maybe he drew his inspiration from the bible? or that his religious background would have an effect on what he would write? If Bach was not religious then we wouldn't have much of his great works. No St. Matthew Passion! That would be terrible. I believe Bach wrote with religiosity. I mean if you love your mother couldn't you draw inspiration from your love for her and write an amazing piece for her? Plus lol organs were just so common outside of a church!
But the important thing is listening your music. I hear it every day in my 800 Cds of Bach. I am sorry that the death to stop. If someone promised me that I would rise every ten years to listen to their Passions, their Cantatas, their Masses, their music... I did not mind dying now.
...and his works just leave from mediocrity.Other, however, without any hint of religion, and sacred music reached the sublime, Like Beethoven in his Missa Solemnis and even Mozart, who had litle believer, with his Mass in C Minor and Requiem.
Bach had the defect of being too modest. Compared his profession to a shoemaker. Even humbled mediocre composer like Haendel. I forgave him and ask. Why Bach had to believe in a supreme God? Or is it the true God. For me it is... and GOD bless me.
But seriously what you said, and many say, he could not write the music to write without being very religious. Sorry, but this is just utter nonsense and, also, an insult to the memory of Bach.
Bach wrote his music with his talent, his art, his genius.
No composer writes music with his religiosity. This mean that the more religious the best music he did. Impossible. The history of music is full os composers much more religious, some with dose of fanaticism.....
Talking about the more or less religious Bach adiditio to being subject to a number of books or is like discussing the sex of angels. However, a close study of his life and his work can lead us to draw some conclusions. It is what I have done at least the last twenty years.
The religiosity of Bach was like that of his contemporaries, neither more nor less. Thei find it too religious like you and not the nom-religious like me. Every one who thinks as you like, but prove it. I think prove ....
Again, my two cent's worth. The blonde lady in the blue gown is an ABSOULTE joy to watch!!! A true musician can tell (without a doubt) that she relishes the heavenly music and truely interprets her voice and feelings into the MAGNIFICENT piece!!!!!!
Well, Bach was a very religious man, who did attribute his talent directly to God, to whom he also dedicated his music. I am myself an atheist, but I love the devotion you can hear in Bach's music. Religious people may say "all glory to the Lord and King of Kings", but I say all glory to Bach.
Sublime!
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Chewbacca on 1st Oboe! #classical
ProfessorPiano 2 months ago
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ProfessorPiano 2 months ago
wachet auf...não dá para 'não' despertar com uma glória musical como é esse coral...
handelofHalle 2 months ago
polyphonic?
xanafanadu 2 months ago
I suppose this is one of the best performances of anything, ever. Simply uneblievable.
dragmio 2 months ago
Wunderbar! Genauso gehört diese Kantate interpretiert. Alles wie es sein muss. Wie immer bei Herrn Koopmann. Kompliment!!
kaubri 3 months ago
Ja so ist es gemeint - das Tempo sitzt - Good work and the rhythm is brilliant - not slow not fast - this is joy in my ears Geehrter Herrr Koopman vielen Dank - best regards from Leipzig JSB Cantor
Mrababab121212 3 months ago
The temperment is different, no? It sounds like A 415.
koyunbaba73 4 months ago
A good bach piece is like a well oiled machine.
John27346 4 months ago 6
amazing!
EPICdragonus 4 months ago
I wonder why reactions are not registering right now? Can't get it to work.
railtrailer44 5 months ago
Rather, I mean thumbs up/thumbs down is not working.
railtrailer44 5 months ago
the "drop" long before dubstep, hahahah. this is just ridiculously good
lordfarty 6 months ago
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5050zulu1 6 months ago
@5050zulu1 Bach's music invites infinite variety of experience. Consider, though, that the ladies at the beginning are singing a relatively archaic choral tune (1599) that serves as the point of departure for this chorale prelude; it would have been sung by pre-pubescent choirboys in Bach's time. The guy in between the ladies is singing the florid free counterpoint inspired by the choral, like a bee buzzing around a flower. All this is lovely to me. Only your assumption: "still=cold" disturbs.
xgianpatrick 5 months ago 4
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5050zulu1 5 months ago
I like her cleavage.
Bleecker32 7 months ago
I should use this as alarm clock xD
Bach doesn't cease to amaze me! He has what in my opinion are a composer's finest gifts: sincerity and perfect structures.
DolceSzopen 7 months ago 2
Bach was a taskmaster who tolerated only letter perfect performance. After all he wrote music for every Sunday in the church year plus oratorios concertos and toccata and fugue etc. This is Germanic work ethic plus detail dedication with no compromises It dwarfs the works of most of his contemporaries and incredibly achieves a plane of music unique to himself Astounds the listener!!!
ken38urb 7 months ago 3
@ken38urb When you say "wrote music for every Sunday", you must be referring to his activities in Leipzig. I doubt there was time to prepare the kind of "letter perfect performance" you've come to expect in concerts and recordings. He had no music composition/notation software or copy machine. Every part had to be copied out by hand before there could even be a rehearsal. He had other responsibilities besides preparing for a Sunday performance. And he had many private students.
wcbroccoli 6 months ago
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the blond lady gave me a boner and the ice lady too, and so the lady in black, the blond in black, and a couple more ladys (not the violinist in blue though, she looks like a mean drunk to me)
plumbo624 8 months ago
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the blond lady gave me a boner and the ice lady too, and so the lady in black, the blond in black, and a couple more ladys (not the violinist in blue though, she looks like a mean drunk to me)
plumbo624 8 months ago
Bach is so great!
ColdIstheNight 8 months ago
@5050zulu1 Actually the swaying doesn't bother me that much--just looks a little odd in this highly disciplined group.Maybe more often seen in a small local church choir. But for you to call the woman next to her an ice maiden seemed mean and unfair--to me she has the look of intense concentration,not too different from the rest of the choir. Looks like many agree with me--a surprising number of thumbs up in a short time. Btw, what would Bach great the disciplinarian have thought? Sort of funny.
railtrailer44 9 months ago
Lovely rendition of this great work of musical art by Bach. 2011 represents 150th year of friendship between Germany and Japan and quite a few cultural exchanges are taking place including music. Danke schoen! eijiro odagiri, Japanese music lover
eijigosen 9 months ago
Such is the power of Bach that he makes that middle lady physically fall in love with him 250 years after he died ...
ernent 10 months ago 3
I want to hear the blonde in the blue dress and the first chair violinist performing "Morgen" (R. Strauss)!!!!!!
SordidGuy 10 months ago
Swag
heavyoxygen 10 months ago 2
Koopman le grand...! Une référence.
ANTOONMAKA 10 months ago
I think I just died!!!
SordidGuy 10 months ago
I want to go to one of this concerts!
stargirlsusan 10 months ago
.. after fukushima daiichi I i wish this could hear the hole world!
Kingsize4711 10 months ago
.. look on her face, thats it, why this is one of the best performance from BWV 140such a good
Kingsize4711 10 months ago
.. yess, she is absolute beautifull!
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@5050zulu1 Not an ice maiden. If you don't criticize her intense concentration, then I won't criticize the rather intense emoting of the other.
railtrailer44 11 months ago 24
@railtrailer44 excactly: its the music that comes out which is important
marmi2332 9 months ago 2
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5050zulu1 9 months ago
@railtrailer44 : Maybe "the blonde in the blue dress" has an operating vibrator inserted?!
SordidGuy 9 months ago
@SordidGuy Actually laughed out loud.
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@railtrailer44 the blond lady gave me a boner and the ice lady too, and so the lady in black, the blond in black, and a couple more ladys (not the violinist in blue though, she looks like a mean drunk to me)
plumbo624 8 months ago
I listened to this Cantata 140 and other great Bach music sung by Tokyo Baroch Scholars in Tokyo recently. Great work of musical art by Bach. So great that even Softbank Mobile is using this as the background music for their new TV Commercial. Eiji Tanaka
eijigosen 11 months ago
hey i like this
poopingeneral 1 year ago
une vrai merveille depuis l age de 4 ans que je l ecoute ca reveille l interet religieux isabel.
grau4813 1 year ago
Small people(Bach-Beethoven-malher-Hitler) with giant works or plans !!
Sylvain894 1 year ago
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Sylvain894 1 year ago
German were small people way back in time; composing giant ambitious works, and the reaction was that, small other people were not understanding anything from composers like Bach or Beethoven, because they were kind of genius with different ideas at their time, there was Hitler too who were small with giant plans to change the world. It was like steps for themselves to look greater in their small shapes !!
Sylvain894 1 year ago
@Sylvain894 Great! What a cute thing, having to cope with a nazi while listening to this. Well, I suppose Hitler would have had Mahler burnt, because he was a jew. History exists for something, dude, if only for not watching idiots wearing the SS uniform again.
zariguella1930 1 year ago
@zariguella1930 Well; i'm not a Hitler supporter, but i readed about him; there were so plenty of contradictions during the war, and Mr Hitler wasn't a man of indecision, his ideas were clear, excepted maybe at his last days on earth ! Burning Malher would be so awful, and nazy people were not idiots to condamn such musical genius that he was; cause everybody has a musical curiosity genius to discover even the worst composers ! So, they would not burn Mr Malher, but maybe only forbid his works!!
Sylvain894 1 year ago
@Sylvain894 Well, there's so many thing I would like to ask you about, for example, what exactly did you read, because the verb itself doesn't give much weight to any of your arguments. It's so nice, so the thing is tha forbiding the works of people like Mahler, Schoenberg or Brüch it's OK, as long as you don't actually kill them phisically. But, at the end, only one thing: what does that genocidal brute have to do with the great composers and the wonderful piece posted here?
zariguella1930 1 year ago
@zariguella1930 First i'm a guy from French culture, not a fighter, i try to explain in English i have learned by myself so it's like you if you try to explain something totally in French; i was remarking that these people had been great musical interests, even Hitler ! You're probably take me for another guy !! Expressing in English my point of view ain't easy and may be deconvenient for some that assimilate it better !
Sylvain894 1 year ago
@zariguella1930 First i'm a guy from French culture, not a fighter, i try to explain in English i have learned by myself so it's like you if you try to explain something totally in French; i was remarking that these people had been great musical interests, even Hitler ! You're probably take me for another guy !! Expressing in English my point of view ain't easy and may be inconvenient for some that assimilate it better !
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@zariguella1930 First i'm a guy from French culture, not a fighter, i try to explain in English i have learned by myself so it's like you if you try to explain something totally in French; i was remarking that these people had great musical interests, even Hitler ! You're probably take me for another guy !! Expressing in English my point of view ain't easy and may be inconvenient for some that assimilate it better !
Sylvain894 1 year ago
@Sylvain894 Maybe you just wanted a fight.
zariguella1930 1 year ago
@zariguella1930 Probably you had troubles with these words not expressed right !
Sylvain894 1 year ago
This remains my favorite rendition of my favorite movement of my favorite cantata. Now ... that said...notice the two gentlemen in the chorus on the ends of the rows on the right side (from audience perspective). What do you bet they are brothers? Maybe even twins! Watch 3:21 - 3:28
dekr899 1 year ago
@dekr899 Could be.
railtrailer44 5 months ago
The alto phrase "aleluia" beguinning at 4:26 is possibly one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard. It's unexpected, though seeming at the same time the only logical development there could be... hail the genius Bach!
tomasnoronha 1 year ago
bellissimo ! Ton is the best
hautbois1958 1 year ago
Love the period instruments
Altoclarinets 1 year ago
@Altoclarinets Me too. Outrageously good sound. And I love watching the first violinist. If I were learning baroque violin I would want her for a teacher.
railtrailer44 5 months ago
You can find the lyrics in German and English in The Cantatas of J.S. Bach by Alfrerd Durr, Oxford U Press!
TheJbach 1 year ago
Was für ein wunderbares Stück Musik! Ich konnte mit diesen immer wieder zu hören. Bravo! Um Koopman und seine wunderbaren Chor / Musiker.
TOMATNOSCE 1 year ago
Can someone please explain why parts 2 and 5 are missing from the set?
How can I find them?
Xe054 1 year ago
I'm in heaven!
classyteacherdiva 1 year ago 2
Beautifull! I think, that there is no progress with historical practice performance since this years, when Koopman, Gardiner and others recerded their main things. We canonly learn from them in my opinion.
ebreandhil 1 year ago
Wonderful performance! Very stylistic. I love the period instruments; the player of the natural horn is particularly impressive. Excellent choir and orchestra. Koopman is top-notch!
sophelet 1 year ago 3
Heavenly music, heavenly singing!
luciesneep 1 year ago 2
@luciesneep Not so.
Nil0One 1 year ago
There something about Bach's music that makes me feel as if I known his music since forever, or maybe its a fulfillment of my life, I had to listen to his music, I just had to.
:D
stargirlsusan 1 year ago 3
koopman has a perfect undrestanding of Bach´s phrasing. As an organist, he has a similar acoustic mind setup. Wonderful version.
RumoAoSul 1 year ago
@RumoAoSul I agree. Every time I hear a Koopman Version of Bach I tend to sit up and take notice moreso than some of the other recordings. I love to compare and contrast.
redbrian3655 1 year ago
I just looked the word alto up in the Oxford Concise English dictionary. It says in part: "Highest male voice." The word alto is now commonly used in place of the more correct contralto which is the female equivalent singing in the same range as the male alto.
Given that English's greatest strength is its ability to adopt, adapt and morph constantly without a group of academics dictating what it should be; I accept that 'alto' is fine for SATB choirs but not where men take the alto part.
donaldrose 1 year ago
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5050zulu1 1 year ago
Are men singing the alto part?
Hehehe. Hilarious.
But beautiful music.
cluttj 1 year ago
@cluttj Alto is a male voice. The female version is the contralto. I used to sing alto regularly in choirs recreating music like Handel's Messial sympathetic to how it was originally presented with Trebles, Altos etc. I now sing in a male choir and frequently need to sing in my falsetto or 'alto' voice.
donaldrose 1 year ago
@donaldrose: Alto is a **female** voice (or wiki says: "alto" describes the second highest voice part in a four-part chorus. ). We're singing this masterpiece right now. You can see this at the beginning of the fugue. This part is for the lower womens.
Never mind ;o).
But I like this presentation.
TVBurundi 1 year ago
@TVBurundi A friend of mine is a very fine (and famous) English countertenor. He also refers to himself and the parts he sings as "alto." In scores of the renaissance and even later, the part in that range was often labeled "altus"--no always "tenor." We, too, may be flexible in how we apply the term.
sophelet 1 year ago
@donaldrose Ahhhh cool beans, I get it. I probably should know all this due to me being a music student and all...
Wouldn't it be hard to sing that high like all the time?!
cluttj 1 year ago
@cluttj Hilarious? Actually, common, and in keeping with the historical performance of this music, which would have had boys on the highest part as well.
sophelet 1 year ago
Muzyka Bacha zawsze była ostoją, tym obszarem wolności,
do którego nigdy nie miały dostępu żadne szubienice ni łańcuchy.
Wobec Jego muzyki wszelki terror i tyrania jest bezilna.
Bowiem Myuzyka Bacha: z ducha jest dla ducha.
Jak bardzo dzisiaj znowu potrzebuję Tej Muzyki...
PromienDrzewa 1 year ago
Like Koopman and his experiment, but this opening movement is a bit disappointing as far as the singers go lacking the force I usually here from his forces. The orchestra is stunning and the chorus (in all of the later movements) beautifully engaged - but just too soft focused in much of this (notably the tenors who melt my heart in "Zion hört die wächter singen" - breathtaking). Still, an overall beautiful performance of one of Bach's most beautiful moments.
sharky123 1 year ago
Yah! Wash it off!!
just kidding, beautiful actually and will be the wedding march for me i think. i had wanted to incorporate Bach.
labbitch308 1 year ago
@labbitch308
Yeah! Using BMV 140 as wedding march buddies! Mine's in June.
rotopope 1 year ago
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Why do people care how the performing move or look during performance? The sound is what matters...nothing else...the visuals aspect is irrelevant.
arete1952 1 year ago
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Why do people care how the performers move or look during performance. The sound is what matters...nothing else...the visual aspest is irrelevant.
arete1952 1 year ago
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arete1952 1 year ago
On most You Tube vocal music videos, extant sniping comprises assessments of voices, usually sopranos. With Bach, battle royales concern the virtues of different conductors.
P1B1U1H1 1 year ago
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5050zulu1 1 year ago 7
@5050zulu1 aqui não é lugar de pensar em sexo.
TVJaguari7 1 year ago
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@TVJaguari7 so you understand English so why do you bitch in portuguese
5050zulu1 1 year ago
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5050zulu1 1 year ago
@5050zulu1 To her right?
Nil0One 1 year ago
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5050zulu1 1 year ago
@Nil0One to her left=to the right of her from our perspective
cicero1453 1 year ago
@5050zulu1
One reason for the motionless is for absolute precision control over the airway and enunciation.
Bach himself wrote of the need for vocalists to remain still and 'in perfection', not only for good sound production, but also in humble service to the music.
Unfortunately, many performers (though not that lady in blue) seem to feel the need to resemble a treetop in a hurricane, waving this way and that, as though the performance were about them and not the music.
treimers95 1 year ago 12
@treimers95 I agree. Much like classic pianists and keeping their backs straight and having their arms and wrists in proper position- unlike the swaying "emotional" style of playing we often see on tv. Unless you're Liberace, of course, then you would be the exception. And he's the only exception because he's in a league of his own.
EmeraldxFairy 1 year ago
@treimers95 Well said!!!
railtrailer44 9 months ago
@treimers95 Here, here! Well-put indeed.Personally, I loathe that over-gesticulation and I'm glad there are other who feel the same way. Cheers!
horationelson57 5 months ago 3
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@5050zulu1
One reason for the motionless is for absolute precision control over the airway and enunciation.
Bach himself wrote of the need for vocalists to remain still and 'in perfection', not only for good sound production, but also in humble service to the music.
Unfortunately, many performers (though not that lady in blue) seem to feel the need to resemble a treetop in a hurricane, waving this way and that, as though the performance were about them and not the music.
treimers95 1 year ago
@5050zulu1
Yes, but joy is not necessarily noticeable. I know that when I sing Bach, my face is almost unchanged, however my soul is in deep swirl of emotions, joy, gratitude, admiration etc.
goranvu 11 months ago 4
@5050zulu1 you could call Miles Davis the same because he was almost always serious playing jazz, he looked harsh and focused but it didn't mean he wasn't playing with soul, did it?
redbull101991 7 months ago 2
@redbull101991 I would'nt know option 1 watch Miles Davis . option 2 watch paint dry = Thats nice paint
5050zulu1 7 months ago
I really like it more slowly, although this performance is more than awesome!.
avellanedam 1 year ago
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5050zulu1 1 year ago 5
bach used as theme of this music the chaconne by ferdinand fischer :)
trabalhosmanuais 1 year ago
Thie first time I ever heard this I was 13 years old and I have loved it ever since. It was performed by All High School students.
TrueZeal 2 years ago
really great
1933haynes 2 years ago
Bach--God's loving servant
vivascargill 2 years ago 2
I'd like this, if I haven't heard Richter's rendition first. Sorry, but Ton Koopman and his orchestra may be good on the technical level, but just that.
camilocuesta 2 years ago
Hopefully this is my final response, but the First Chair Violinist is SUCH A JOY to watch! Love her!!!!!!
SordidGuy 2 years ago
@SordidGuy That's why her name is Faultless (Margaret) ,,,
ernent 1 year ago
Nie znalazłam lepszej wersji.
Wykonanie orkiestry i śpiewaków z "najwyższej półki".
Kilku tenorków wspomaga alcistkę i nawet dobrze im idzie.
Prawdziwa uczta dla ucha!
Pozdrawiam Miłośników Dzieł J.S.Bacha.
agnesd73 2 years ago
I love this tempo and everything else about this fine choir and orchestra!
This my favourite Bach cantata and I had to study this great work for GCE in Music - a long time ago and I was captivated by the rhythm pulsing through it and, of course, Bach's wonderful writing!
Many thanks for uploading this magnificent version
RonnieBass 2 years ago 2
being a music major, I had to take listening quizzes in my music history courses. I had to memorize every bloody detail about each song and spout it back on a test just by listening to about 30 seconds of it. I hated it, but now i'm thankful because it exposed me to great music like this :) love it
bookerz312 2 years ago
Sorry to bother you, but I had to comment after reading your post. I was a music theory major at Furman University (WAY BACK IN THE MIDDLE AGES - The 1980's) and experienced much the same predicament (only it was Ravel's Bolero). TALK ABOUT DIFFICULT!!! We could only listen to the distant recording and had to name every instrument as they appeard ed and in combination......I'm surprised I passed!!!!!! Thanks for being a fellow TRUE music lover!
SordidGuy 2 years ago
The middle ages... haha that means i was born in the late middle ages. :)
bookerz312 2 years ago
Cute response! I like you!!!
SordidGuy 2 years ago
well thanks :) lol
bookerz312 2 years ago
@SordidGuy If you were a music major at FU in the middle ages, then I was a music major there during the dark ages (mid 70's). How I suffered through some of it, too! But thank goodness for the tough ones... like Charlotte Smith, for example. She whupped me every chance she got (and I gave her plenty of chances). If it hadn't been for her... and Bob Chesebro... I'd not have amounted to much, I suspect.
dekr899 2 years ago
Charlotte was my idol and one of the main reasons I opted for Music Theory as a major. She ALWAYS gave me the most difficult assignments (I was her "chosen one" for two years, I guess). OH HOW I MISS THOSE DAYS!!!!!! Thanks for helping bring back the wonderful memories......Michael
SordidGuy 2 years ago
She literally whupped u?
Akee1990 2 years ago
This is absolutely perfect on every level (and wonderfully authentic). The vocal trills by the sopranos are simply astounding!!!!!! THANK YOU for posting this, Bacholoji......
SordidGuy 2 years ago 3
I love it. One need not scream in order to awaken the world.
gerdislouise 2 years ago 7
I like the tempo but when you sing Wauchet auf you should mean it. Here it sounds like a lullaby.
angryjalapeno 2 years ago
wspaniale....to za mało powiedziane:)Genialne tempo, brzmienie, oparcie, chór -lekkość , miękkość i ekspresja w jednym- to coś więcej niż muzyka, a może to jest właśnie MUZYKA?
azarska1 2 years ago
The tempo - what a difference compared to the Munich rendition! This one is, well, less breath-taking.
lefekir 2 years ago
As nice a performance as I've EVER heard and I've performed this one many times. (On oboe.)
The tempo is simply perfect.
Ellie49 2 years ago
A en faire une maladie tellement c'est beau, merci Bach, merci d'être née
lchiner 2 years ago
Bien que vous ayez écrit "née"pour Bach,entièrement d'accord avec vous,pour moi c'est le seul vaccin possible en ces temps apocalyptiques.
Siberiaeterna 2 years ago
Vous avez raison, je m'excuse, mon OpenOffice me ridiculise souvent, merci de votre commentaire.
lchiner 2 years ago
@Siberiaeterna et le vaccin H1N1 ? que dois-je en penser?
ChopRachma 1 year ago
na da wird sich doch a fescher bursch finden..;))..
05giacomo 2 years ago
wunderbar
Uwe941 2 years ago
WHAT a brilliant choir! And orchestra, etc. The tenor at 4:26 is fantastic. His 16th note runs are so precise! I wish I knew more about this choir: who are they and where are they from?
Zackiesmomma 2 years ago
@Zackiesmomma Actually, these guys sing alto, I've sung this Cantata before (I'm a tenor) and this is the alto part. Bach often used male altos, as it was common practice in those days.
Guilhem74 2 years ago
That is really phenomenal singing. I miss being in choirs. But I did find out about this choir... based in Amsterdam and it's a Baroque orchestra and choir, which I'd love to go see. Well thank you for the information on Bach using males as altos. I'm ashamed! Bach and Handel are my favorites! One would have to have studied Bach's choral writing more or be a student of the Baroque to know that? Or I just slept through that day in Music History class.
Zackiesmomma 2 years ago
This is the Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra and Choir directed by Ton Koopman. They've recorded all of Bach's Cantatas in a wondefull series of 22 CD-albums. I highly recommend them, and have collected all but one of the albums over the past years. I;ve witnessed some of the live performances as well. Awesome.
Mala4646 2 years ago
Thank you so much. They are just wonderful. What a great experience that you were able to go to some live performances too.
Zackiesmomma 2 years ago
beautiful
cerealrulz 2 years ago
hervorragender Chor
wupperfeld 2 years ago
Has any Baroque composer created such beautiful, deep, spiritual music ?
Yet they say Bach has not made a revolution in music !
waeman 2 years ago
buxtehude for sure did
Stehnz 2 years ago
can you give an example ?
waeman 2 years ago
He is the best!
Zackiesmomma 2 years ago
Well!!! And the main reason for Bach to compose religious music in Leipzig is because he worked for the church. It is not rdt425?... And if Bach worked for the Devil? What music did?... Diabolical music.
GBADCD 2 years ago
'The aim and final reason of all music should be nothing else but the glory of God and the refreshment of the spirit.'
JS Bach
Beatifully rendered!! A masterpiece indeed!
elieltanr 2 years ago 28
@elieltanr
I agree. But I wish Bach had added to exclude the established church. Faith would be more beautiful without religious self centered authority.
silverbud 1 year ago
@silverbud Much better that Bach was orthodox and set a good example.
rumpranger65 1 year ago
@silverbud
i dont really understand your statement. would you care to elaborate?
elieltanr 1 year ago
@elieltanr Anne Rice? Or a fan of?
ropeperson 1 year ago
@ropeperson nope, i've not read her books at all. my apologies
elieltanr 1 year ago
@elieltanr soli Deo Gloria
thiramthiram 1 year ago
@elieltanr , and I can't think of any other musician who has sanctified God in the way that JS Bach did.
koyunbaba73 1 year ago
@koyunbaba73 the only other person who can come close to what bach did, is another german composer, GF Handel. Bach is second to none. To God be the glory!
elieltanr 1 year ago
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andrewpainting 2 years ago
Could we even imagine the Great Bach's without GOD? I DON'T THINK SO. His personal religious history had made him a great musician, I believe.
bezaleel01 2 years ago 3
all of his songs he wrote for God
DanSandwich 2 years ago
Why is it so big of a concept to think maybe he drew his inspiration from the bible? or that his religious background would have an effect on what he would write? If Bach was not religious then we wouldn't have much of his great works. No St. Matthew Passion! That would be terrible. I believe Bach wrote with religiosity. I mean if you love your mother couldn't you draw inspiration from your love for her and write an amazing piece for her? Plus lol organs were just so common outside of a church!
godsloved3 2 years ago
Wow....short of women altos....!!!!
yellowlynx 2 years ago
But the important thing is listening your music. I hear it every day in my 800 Cds of Bach. I am sorry that the death to stop. If someone promised me that I would rise every ten years to listen to their Passions, their Cantatas, their Masses, their music... I did not mind dying now.
GBADCD 2 years ago
...and his works just leave from mediocrity.Other, however, without any hint of religion, and sacred music reached the sublime, Like Beethoven in his Missa Solemnis and even Mozart, who had litle believer, with his Mass in C Minor and Requiem.
Bach had the defect of being too modest. Compared his profession to a shoemaker. Even humbled mediocre composer like Haendel. I forgave him and ask. Why Bach had to believe in a supreme God? Or is it the true God. For me it is... and GOD bless me.
GBADCD 2 years ago
....my theory. Prove you yours.
But seriously what you said, and many say, he could not write the music to write without being very religious. Sorry, but this is just utter nonsense and, also, an insult to the memory of Bach.
Bach wrote his music with his talent, his art, his genius.
No composer writes music with his religiosity. This mean that the more religious the best music he did. Impossible. The history of music is full os composers much more religious, some with dose of fanaticism.....
GBADCD 2 years ago 2
Talking about the more or less religious Bach adiditio to being subject to a number of books or is like discussing the sex of angels. However, a close study of his life and his work can lead us to draw some conclusions. It is what I have done at least the last twenty years.
The religiosity of Bach was like that of his contemporaries, neither more nor less. Thei find it too religious like you and not the nom-religious like me. Every one who thinks as you like, but prove it. I think prove ....
GBADCD 2 years ago
Again, my two cent's worth. The blonde lady in the blue gown is an ABSOULTE joy to watch!!! A true musician can tell (without a doubt) that she relishes the heavenly music and truely interprets her voice and feelings into the MAGNIFICENT piece!!!!!!
SordidGuy 2 years ago
All glory to the Lord of Lord and King of Kings for whom Bach wrote all of his glorious music.
jubaltolian 2 years ago
Love the music for what it is. Not for what you want it to be.
DefiantZephyr 2 years ago 3
Well, Bach was a very religious man, who did attribute his talent directly to God, to whom he also dedicated his music. I am myself an atheist, but I love the devotion you can hear in Bach's music. Religious people may say "all glory to the Lord and King of Kings", but I say all glory to Bach.