Is this from a degenerative disease or is the erratic gait from a cerebellar stroke? I had a cerebellar stroke. Ataxic. Which means I can work out and have strong muscles, but I will always walk like ericpian. You know, walking like this beats the alternative - not being able to walk at all, which is where I started after the stroke. Keep trying, keep trucking. Use it or lose it.
my dad has cerabell ataxia and so does and has alot of my family
it reminds me of how my dad used 2 walk a few years ago
to the untrained eye people mistake it for being drunk
its not a very nice thing watching someone deteriate infront of you,and i feel for people who are suffering for cerebal ataxia,its an aggressive dissease and not alot of people know about it
Good comments and good video. I am taking gait training for ataxia following a cerebellar stroke. Not many people know about it, but when you have it and can just walk inside a store by yourself, you say THANK YOU! I get better everyday because I survived the cerebellar stroke that caused the Ataxia.
The longer video was helpful for me. At first he just looked like my agoraphobic grandfather, stooped and waddling instead of striding upright. Seeing it over and over, I noticed how he was far too young to be walking like a 75-year-old recluse, how unsteady he was, and numerous other details. The doctor was condescending, talking to him like a puppy or something, still, the longer video was helpful. One longer back-and-forth would have been more respectful.
I am 45. I have Cerebral palsy, Dandy Walker Syndrome, Epilepsy, Spina Bfida occulta & Arnold Chiari Malformation. Life Goes on. I love being who I am. :)
@Jorfapigo It's a congenital neurological abnormality - enlargement of the fourth ventricle, partial or complete absence of the cerebellar vermis, and cysts forming near the base of the skull. It can cause increased intracranial pressure as well as cerebellar dysfunction.
@macmitchdog you have an amazing thinking n attitude!everyone should love being who they are...u inspire me... i wish u the greatest day ahead.live life to the fullest :)
I disagree. A patient's dignity is high up on the list of a good physician's priorities and was clearly absent from this one's. This is essentially an educational supplement and it has been produced at the expense of this man's dignity. I also disagree that the man's loss of balance adds to the usefullness of the video as a demonstration of ataxia. Thanks for your reply, I hope you and your son are well.
He's not made to look like a circus seal. It is meant to visually see multiple time how he walks. Notice how he walks as if he was an infant which is due to a wider stance. It is a side effect of atxia.
I am well aware of the clinical effects of cerebellar pathology, and one or two walks across the room is sufficient to demonstrate them, while allowing the patient to retain some degree of dignity. DrFeelgood my ass.
If your so intelligent about cerebellar pathology then why don't you take care of a loved one who has had it and watch them slowly die from it. And for your advice drfeelgood is a motley crue song ya tool!
Nonsense. Patients don't know what is appropriate or inappropriate behaviour on the part of their physicians. The poor guy probably thought it was completely normal for his neurologist (presumably) to parade him around like that. Either way, it is unecessary and I stand by my objection to this in the strongest possible terms. The last thing a dying person needs is to be subjected to any degree of indignity, no matter how minor it may seem.
truly atleast his face should hae been cut out of the vid to keep it as annoymonous as possible andif he walked for a longer length with side poles as he obviously is not stable enuff to walk un aided that would have been wise
If you notice, it wasn't until toward the end of the "session" that the gentleman almost fell. This is both a good and bad thing. Watching someone gain their balance can tell you a lot about their condition. My son has severe epilepsy and has an ataxic gait. He reminds me a lot of this man. Whether you agree or disagree with the way the doctor was observing the man, he was able to reveal several aspects of the mans' gait. Whether you think it's degrading or not has nothing to do with it.
Who R U? first of all, as the video title describes, this is a teaching video. so ur comment is uneducated- as if u have ever seen a teaching video on gait ( i have being a physiotherapy student)- then the reason for the number of lengths of walking is to be able to take notes and observe on numerous occasions without the need to rewind and play
I understand it's a teaching video. My thoughts on the need to preserve dignity were expressed ealier. As for my expertise or lack thereof I am a final year medical student. When I want advice from a physio student I'll be sure to let you know :).
As for whether or not the man was dying; you are correct in saying that not all causes of cereballar pathology are fatal. However, Frederich's ataxia, easily the most common cause, is progressive.
......secondly why would this person be dying....ataxia is not just due to progressive diseases such as parkinsons....this gentleman may have been victim of a Traumatic Brain Injury-ie car crash.......what a waste of space ur comments are- getting all up on you moral high ground...take a chill pill and take it for what it really is...an educational video, there to teach!
Alas, I too have cerebellar ataxia along with peripheral neuropathy caused by Wernicke-Korsakoff Syndrome. 54 w male. I am pretty much in a wheelchair outside of the house. Inside I walk by grasping the walls and furniture. For the pain, I am now taking 90 mgs of Morphine Sulfate. It helps . Good luck to all.
Thanks for sharing this. Half of my family (including me) have cerebellar ataxia. It's interesting to see other ataxians in action. It sort of looks like something out of a Japanese horror movie, doesn't it? Sort of stop-motion.
Thanks for sharing. Visuals like this certainly help those of us in the health care community recognize and assist folks who need it.
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thankallahalltime 1 year ago
Is this from a degenerative disease or is the erratic gait from a cerebellar stroke? I had a cerebellar stroke. Ataxic. Which means I can work out and have strong muscles, but I will always walk like ericpian. You know, walking like this beats the alternative - not being able to walk at all, which is where I started after the stroke. Keep trying, keep trucking. Use it or lose it.
344Alice 1 year ago
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I wish he was naked....
Dancanmurphy 2 years ago
inappropriate. Hope you are proud of yourself
344Alice 2 years ago
what did I write again?
Dancanmurphy 2 years ago
my dad has cerabell ataxia and so does and has alot of my family
it reminds me of how my dad used 2 walk a few years ago
to the untrained eye people mistake it for being drunk
its not a very nice thing watching someone deteriate infront of you,and i feel for people who are suffering for cerebal ataxia,its an aggressive dissease and not alot of people know about it
tolsonryan 2 years ago 22
Good comments and good video. I am taking gait training for ataxia following a cerebellar stroke. Not many people know about it, but when you have it and can just walk inside a store by yourself, you say THANK YOU! I get better everyday because I survived the cerebellar stroke that caused the Ataxia.
344Alice 2 years ago
The longer video was helpful for me. At first he just looked like my agoraphobic grandfather, stooped and waddling instead of striding upright. Seeing it over and over, I noticed how he was far too young to be walking like a 75-year-old recluse, how unsteady he was, and numerous other details. The doctor was condescending, talking to him like a puppy or something, still, the longer video was helpful. One longer back-and-forth would have been more respectful.
makenna88 3 years ago
I am 45. I have Cerebral palsy, Dandy Walker Syndrome, Epilepsy, Spina Bfida occulta & Arnold Chiari Malformation. Life Goes on. I love being who I am. :)
macmitchdog 3 years ago 59
you go you!
stenorx 2 years ago
@macmitchdog Mind if I ask you what is Dandy Walker Syndrome?
I know the others, and you're right, life goes on. It's nice to see somebody overcoming illnesses and keep his spirit high.
SALUDOS and please excuse my bad english.
Jorfapigo 1 year ago
@Jorfapigo It's a congenital neurological abnormality - enlargement of the fourth ventricle, partial or complete absence of the cerebellar vermis, and cysts forming near the base of the skull. It can cause increased intracranial pressure as well as cerebellar dysfunction.
Abnormaldiversity 1 year ago 2
@macmitchdog eres el ejemplo de obtimismo muy bien me alegro d que tengas esa fortaleza..y exacto la vida continua
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eres el ejemplo de obtimismo muy bien me alegro d que tengas esa fortaleza..y exacto la vida continua
JACKELINful 1 year ago
@macmitchdog You the man!
OrisLover 1 year ago
@macmitchdog positive attitude, you are amazing.
sof2finchy 1 year ago 3
@sof2finchy Thanks mate. It is still Macmitchdog. just a different account.
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@macmitchdog you have an amazing thinking n attitude!everyone should love being who they are...u inspire me... i wish u the greatest day ahead.live life to the fullest :)
ersyaha 8 months ago
I had cerebellar ataxia badly when I was 7-8 years old. Im 19 now, and as far as Im aware, it doesnt affect me anymore.
Hugs to all who commented on here. Its nice to know people aren't idiots when it comes to this.
JosetteRoses 3 years ago
thats really good news, can i ask, did you have some sort of injury? if so do you mind sharing?
swanscoe 3 years ago
My mom has Multiple System Atrophy. Is good to see videos about the cerebellum problems.
curemsa 3 years ago
I disagree. A patient's dignity is high up on the list of a good physician's priorities and was clearly absent from this one's. This is essentially an educational supplement and it has been produced at the expense of this man's dignity. I also disagree that the man's loss of balance adds to the usefullness of the video as a demonstration of ataxia. Thanks for your reply, I hope you and your son are well.
joshhopp 2 years ago
how did you know that a consent and permission of a patient is not been asked (respect of autonomy) .
dewview 2 years ago
They shouldn't have made this poor man walk back and forth like a circus seal. Once or twice is enough thanks.
joshhopp 3 years ago
yes i agree with u
DrJeWelleR 3 years ago
Yesss! Me tooo!
Sweetface184 3 years ago
I agree
GlueyPorch 3 years ago
He's not made to look like a circus seal. It is meant to visually see multiple time how he walks. Notice how he walks as if he was an infant which is due to a wider stance. It is a side effect of atxia.
DrFeelgood3521 3 years ago 2
I am well aware of the clinical effects of cerebellar pathology, and one or two walks across the room is sufficient to demonstrate them, while allowing the patient to retain some degree of dignity. DrFeelgood my ass.
joshhopp 3 years ago
If your so intelligent about cerebellar pathology then why don't you take care of a loved one who has had it and watch them slowly die from it. And for your advice drfeelgood is a motley crue song ya tool!
DrFeelgood3521 3 years ago
I am sorry to hear that you have had to deal with illness in a loved one, but my objection still stands.
joshhopp 3 years ago
I'm sure if the guy objected he'd just say "can you please stop filming?"
robertspringthorpe 3 years ago
Nonsense. Patients don't know what is appropriate or inappropriate behaviour on the part of their physicians. The poor guy probably thought it was completely normal for his neurologist (presumably) to parade him around like that. Either way, it is unecessary and I stand by my objection to this in the strongest possible terms. The last thing a dying person needs is to be subjected to any degree of indignity, no matter how minor it may seem.
joshhopp 3 years ago
truly atleast his face should hae been cut out of the vid to keep it as annoymonous as possible andif he walked for a longer length with side poles as he obviously is not stable enuff to walk un aided that would have been wise
bovez 3 years ago
If you notice, it wasn't until toward the end of the "session" that the gentleman almost fell. This is both a good and bad thing. Watching someone gain their balance can tell you a lot about their condition. My son has severe epilepsy and has an ataxic gait. He reminds me a lot of this man. Whether you agree or disagree with the way the doctor was observing the man, he was able to reveal several aspects of the mans' gait. Whether you think it's degrading or not has nothing to do with it.
christyk3377 2 years ago
Who R U? first of all, as the video title describes, this is a teaching video. so ur comment is uneducated- as if u have ever seen a teaching video on gait ( i have being a physiotherapy student)- then the reason for the number of lengths of walking is to be able to take notes and observe on numerous occasions without the need to rewind and play
tandyc 2 years ago
I understand it's a teaching video. My thoughts on the need to preserve dignity were expressed ealier. As for my expertise or lack thereof I am a final year medical student. When I want advice from a physio student I'll be sure to let you know :).
As for whether or not the man was dying; you are correct in saying that not all causes of cereballar pathology are fatal. However, Frederich's ataxia, easily the most common cause, is progressive.
joshhopp 2 years ago
......secondly why would this person be dying....ataxia is not just due to progressive diseases such as parkinsons....this gentleman may have been victim of a Traumatic Brain Injury-ie car crash.......what a waste of space ur comments are- getting all up on you moral high ground...take a chill pill and take it for what it really is...an educational video, there to teach!
tandyc 2 years ago
Alas, I too have cerebellar ataxia along with peripheral neuropathy caused by Wernicke-Korsakoff Syndrome. 54 w male. I am pretty much in a wheelchair outside of the house. Inside I walk by grasping the walls and furniture. For the pain, I am now taking 90 mgs of Morphine Sulfate. It helps . Good luck to all.
KevinFitzz 3 years ago 3
thank you
louisetaube 4 years ago
my son has just been dx'ed with proggressive c Ataxia... he walks just the same although is far more wobbly
lyndsayseed 4 years ago
left cerebellar lesion in this case, coz the drift is to the affected side
predatorz8 4 years ago 4
Thanks for sharing this. Half of my family (including me) have cerebellar ataxia. It's interesting to see other ataxians in action. It sort of looks like something out of a Japanese horror movie, doesn't it? Sort of stop-motion.
marjorienye 4 years ago