Looks like that pro life thing is not working out very well for Steve Driehaus. Looks like to me the DNC turned there back on you Steve. Maybe next time you should be a little smarter next time. Thats if you ever have a next time.
Congress is on break for three weeks now. He does the Congressman on Your Corner meetings. Give his office a call and find out when the next one is. Phone: (513) 684-2723
To the people at that meeting, why go the meeting if you are going to make a bunch of noise, when some one wants to answer a question, or questions? Is it because listening takes a liitle bit of efford, and you are just too lazy for that?
I live in Canada. Me and my entire family have quality single payer health care. I choose my own doctor and my own hospital. It's great. Also I don't do the bidding of large insurance corporations to show up to town halls an scream like a dumb bitch.
You mean like Social Security? You'll be refusing your pension will you? You'll be refusing medicare when you turn 65? The government forces you to buy car insurance, so do you refuse to drive?
Most people pay into SS their entire adult life. So it would stand to reason that they expect to get it back at some point. I don't see how that is being hypocritical.
Mindless insults are what people do when they are incapable of reason.
Its hypocritical because it is a social program. Everyone pays into and collects when they are older. Kind of like everyone paying into a medical system and collecting when you get sick or injured. Kind of like insurance.
Any sort of program that benefits the people paying into it at some point or another (health (when you are sick), car (when you are in an accident), fire (when your house burns down), pension (when you retire) is socialist by nature, whether or not it is run by the government. If you are against medicare for all because it is socialist, you must also be against all the other social programs run by the government. If you can't understand that, you are blind.
That's ridiculous. Purchasing insurance of any kind through a private provider is not a socialist program. It would be socialist if people who did not pay, benefited. You need to understand what socialism really is.
You seem to think you have to power to decide what people should believe. You don't.
If you pay premiums or you pay taxes to go into a system that pays back when needed (everyone pays taxes) than everyone pays and everyone benefits. (e.g. Two people pay 100/month into a private insurance plan, one gets cancer and the other doesn't. One is getting more back than the other even though they both paid the same. Same goes for taxes into a government run program. It's the bloody same.
Not everyone pays taxes and insurance companies don't pay out to people who do not pay into it. You are attempting to redefine terms to support your arguments. You're not going to change my mind on this one.
Not everyone pays taxes? Your are redefining reality to support your arguments. I find willful ignorance just facinating. Everone pays taxes. Everyone.
please watch the obama deception full lenght movie on, you tube. it is 2hrs long, so make some coffee ,or eat while watching it, but please watch it!!!!!
Lester, if you are seriously implying that the name dictates the practice maybe you should look into some of the "democratic people's republics" such as north korea, before you try to compare nazis and the concept of socialism. Go to scandinavia(full of "evil socialists" for a while instead of spewing from your armchair and see that your blithering on just makes you and your ilk seem pitifully ignorant.
HR 3400, a real Health reform bill, is stuck in committee by the democrats who do not want you to know about it. This bill would empower patients not government.
H.R. 3400, a bill sponsored by Georgia Congressman Tom Price of Roswell, is a better alternative than H.R. 3200.
HR 3400 includes medical malpractice reform, the ability to take ones health care across state lines and health savings accounts (HSAs) privately controlled, tax-deductible accounts used for health care expenses. All of these empower patients with choice and don't have diddly to do with administrative law.
Yes once upon a time in 2007 there was a HR3400 that dealt with infrastructure.
Fast forward to now, there is a health reform bill HR3400 that offers real solutions addressing the real problem: cost of health care. Tte media and the democrats do not want you to know about it. It is BURIED IN COMMITTEE so you will never hear about it. If people find out about it and call their congressmen and hold them accountable we may actually accomplish something.
Nazi is short for the national socialist party that gained power in germany under Hitler. Ignorant people think that nazi means "killer of millions of jews". Socialism is the government take over of industries and services. That is what is happening in USA, so it is indeed based in fact to call anyone trying to use the government to take over Americas resources and companies a "nazi". I hope some of the left wing loons learned something today.
According to Wiki, It is short for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers' Party). The nickname is based on the first two syllables, as pronounced in German and was already current in 1923 in Bavaria.
Ever hear of Bernie Ward? He was a far left loon in San Francisco who had his own radio talk show on KGO. He is now doing 7 years in prison for child porn!
"It is strange that liberals today, claim to be "liberal", but do not embrace the liberal ideas our countries finding fathers and their wisdom of the concept of liberty. Instead, they have fallen from concept of liberty and blinding follow socialism which will eventually lead to the downfall of freedom in America."
Cmon man we need to COMPROMISE with the rocknroll rednecks because they have so much to contribute to the debate.
Who would be in the room screetching about socilalism if they werent here? Who would be shouting racist obscenities at the president and everyone else?
We need these people to be a meaningful part of the political process and me must earnestly respect all of their "ideas."
guys just vote these retard democrats out of office and im a proud rocknroll redneck and god bless all of the soldiers who protected my country while these liberal idiots set around smoke there pot and live on food stamps and pray to there god barack hueisseinbama
I am a reneck who volunteered for my country. what so bad about that? you need speel check real bad its GOVERMENT NOT GUVMINT. I glad school is starting back soon
Barb...yes! Those evil capitalists! Someday you wish may come true for a true communist state! The only problem is, we still have our guns and will blow any fuck Marxist off the earth!
I have a preexisting condition because of someone's negligence and CANNOT get insurance. Thankfully I am a veteran and have been able to get health care through a government run program called the VA. The care has been excellent. The person who is responsible for giving me this preexisting condition, their private insurance company called Progressive fought me for 3 years but my settlement does not include future medical costs. You can thank a private company for passing the buck to taxpayers.
I have physical health problems and I have private insurance. At times they will pay good (if it is a PPO) and sometimes they will not pay much. And what I owe, I pay and don't expect anyone else to cover for me! I was raised, as just as my family ancestors were raised to be independent and take care of ourselves without asking the government to do it for us. At least my private insurance NEVER denies coverage! The Socialist health care bill will deny coverage if they see fit to do so.
I hate that you had to. It is sad that we have to be around people who are not thoughtful of other peoples situations. I personally have a difficult time with people because of that, I loath people putting down one another.
So many of us do the same things the "kids" you served with in Iraq did/do. We think down on people for what they believe and how they live.
I hope that for the sake of humanity that their experience in war gives them more repspect and perspective in life...
Volkmoidruk If it wasnt for the US Military you would not be able to write your ignorant comments from your cheap laptop. It would not surprise me if you bought your cheap laptop with my tax dollars, because I have a strong feeling you are on welfare.
I assume you know some "rednecks" who get all excited about 19 year old kids being sent over seas all in the name of oil? That's a great point. I'll be sure to keep my eye out for THOSE kind of people, ?
You falsely assume that everyone in the military has their heads up the bums of people like Bush and obammy. Poor obammy and every other elitist boob in DC would shit their panties if they knew the truth about what is going on.
When has the government tried to get their hands around our healthcare, like they are now?
Name a government ran health program that is not a complete failure. Hell, any program.
The "where were these people when Bush was in office" tactic is wearing off quicker than expected.
There have been plenty of people protesting a lot of what our government has done since Clinton. We were shuned now everyone wants to know where we were at...
One point about Obama-care. Barack has blown an excellent op to reform HC by a lack of leadership and lacking a clear simple vision. He merely passed the buck and let an inept congress try to iron out health care. What should have been done is merely take on one issue at a time. I listed some issues I have below. Instead of rushing a 1000 pages of shit through the house at once it could have been broken up into multiple bills that would be simpler to pass and simpler to implement.
Driving med cost down could be achieved simply by tort reforms,pay schedules like the Japanese have,caps on what private insurers must pay then Medicare can kick in(remeber 5% of the sick account for 50% of the cost),no catastrophic health care provided for illegals,clean up rampant scams on medicare etc,punish doctors and hospitals that bilk the system.
Speaking of coming out of the woodwork and increase of Govt.: Bush I, govt. spending increased 23%, Clinton's eight years, increase of 32%, Bush II's first 5 years, increase of 45%! Ouch, where was the red-faced screaming and crying during the last 8 years?
Agree euqip. The joke on Bush is he started as a social conservative and ended up a conservative socialist. Bush did have the bubble burst of the dot scams and then 9-11. Afghan war was fought on the cheap but Iraq was/is a money pit that could of been avoided. The housing bubble bust was on Bushs watch entirely. Overall,I would grade GW2s performance as a D+. Bush IMO was never a fiscal conservative.
Ya know, it's really obnoxious and disingenuous that people keep saying that. "Where were you?". How the hell was anyone supposed to oppose a healthcare bill that didn't exist yet? Or Cap and Trade? DUH?
I was pretty angry with Bush by the time he left office. I just didn't know what to do about it other than scream at my TV and radio. I know a lot of people who felt the same.
But it's all about party politics, finger pointing and divisive tactics with you. *sigh*
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them" - Thomas Jefferson
Again, I'm asking, so this isn't a place for open discussion, then? What about your flock only your sheep allowed? This isn't an open forum? Have a little problem discussing your point of view, do ya? Our founders would be so proud that you encourage other points of view.
"I've never been denied coverage and have never been removed from an insurance policy, because I have never abused it."
You might have not gotten sick enough. Tell me you don't believe the people that are dropped from insurance companies are only the ones trying to scam them? You do realize many are people who's health got expensive for them. This is basic knowledge. Being the professional I am surprised that this fact has somehow eluded you.
I will tell you that that is the biggest reason that preexisting conditions are being excluded. If a person signs up for a month, gets services, then cancels it, that has to be punishable by law.
I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about here. How about some data to back up this "factoid" and a litle better description of this terrible scam that's eating into insurers' 12.4 billion dollar profit.
Go Obamacare! When it comes time to vote again folks remember the greedy do nothings that have stood in the way of peace and prosperity for to long and get rid of them!
let me guess jetsetleft, you are broke, have never had money, will never have money, and you plan on doing nothing to better yourself except take hand outs from uncle sam. go play in traffic
Nope wrong all the way around.. I work 40+ hours a week..and I would prefer a public option for health care.. Typical assumptions coming from the closed minded and easily manipulated..
Whay are you calling people that don't agree with you "TROLLS" ? I thought this was an open debate. There are many folks on both sides using snarky comments and calling names. What about the market place of ideas? I thought this YOUTUBE was open for all to comment. You might want to go back through the comments and see how many of the various points of view are being cruel and name calling without making any meaningful points.
You conservatives have convinced me not to pay my school taxes ever again. Why should I? I don't have any kids! lol
The real reason that these town hall meetings are so disruptive is that they're bringing out all these people that watch daytime talk shows. That teaches them that debate should really be a circus. That's the American mentality. About 5 th grade level. Smarten up America. GO OBAMACARE!
Just because you lost the war in the south, is not reason to be a conservative.
The government is sworn to protect Americans. Insurance companies protect their profits. You pay taxes for your local fire department. You might never use their service but your neighbor might to save their home. What's more important? Your home or your body?
yes, that's exactly what I'm thinking the government should take over everything. A little hyperbolic, wouldn't you say? Don't forget, the preamble says that we should promote the general welfare.
The silent majority no more! Americans are waking up. Maybe members of Congress should give up their lifetime (free of charge) health care coverage and be a part of this Obama care which they are forcing down our throats.
The Health Insurance industry is sick and evil. All health insurance companys should be shut down for good. Health insurance should come from the government paid for by our tax dollars. Business should not be making money off peoples health, that is immoral. All you people against health care reform are selfish. Republincans just want to look out for them selfs and screw the rest. That's not moral.
I love the one redneck who scribbled a protest sign stating something about Obama RX and Kool-Aid, and then they wrote "I'm not thristy"....T...H...R...I...S...T...Y Wow...that spoke volumes. Bo Duke apparently couldn't spell "thirsty"....for a sign with only about 4 words on it!!! Holy shhhh.... Let's put health care on the back burner and address the public education system first!!!!
Oh look, bunch of old white men and women, who have no interest in 'their country' or the health care debate whatsoever, they just want 'their country back' from a black president.
Someone ALWAYS has to play the race card, don't they?? Let it go already!! It's a bunch of people who don't want to end up living in a socialist country where the government controls everything!! Do you really want the people in Washington telling you which doctor you can see and what procedures that doctor can perform on you? Get a clue!! Those people are standing up for EVERYONE'S best interest.
I know. That was such a stupid post it's not even worth responding to. People who think it's just about race, have absolutely no interest in the truth and nothing anyone says will change that.
Or it's an infantile attempt to get people riled up. Either way it's best just to ignore people like that. :)
Yeah! Kind of like the blacks who spoke up in the 60s. Did you have a problem with their statments. What difference does make weather he is black, asian, hispanic, or white. It's about what he stands for. That's what these people are having a problem with. You sound a lot like you are prejudist to me.
The Right to bear arms is a right. Its a business. Buy everyone a gun! NOW! Healthcare isn't a right. The right to pursue the means to get the health care coverage that you desire is a right.
No that isn't why. We don't have the right to go to Washington DC to protest for free. We do have to pay money for transportation to get there. We do have the right to free speech, but we have to take responsibility for it. A right isn't "FREE". We have the right to petition our government, but the government doesn't provide us with paper, pens, ink, and stamps to send those petitions in. Are you getting it?
And we don't encourage government instituting so many regulations on businesses owned BY PEOPLE, that make it harder to be successful with them. We also don't like Government running Business, because, we have a little of that in Government ran monopolized Electric Companies with no competition. And then they blame private business for the high electric bills.
what makes you think our tax dollars go just to the rich? Oh, wait, never mind, its what Liberals are doing with our money now. Except for of course the trillions paid to Social Security qualifiers who have had their ability to create wealth stripped through the combination of corporate taxes and social security. And I wouldn't be proud of equal distribution of taxes on health care because health care needs aren't equal. The corrupt politicians are those compromising their duties.
The reason they are poor is because of the Government forced Social Security down their throats and Corporate Taxes. The Government completely stopped the growth of individual wealth when they passed corporate taxes.
No. But its because of the government, and now the government thinks its their obligation to drive the wedge between the rich and the poor even deeper. Our government has worked against the people's ability to gain wealth. Because of political ideologies, and that is why you have no rich people. You don't have a Canadian dream. Unless you all want to have mediocre health care equally, until a government worker refers to higher quality private clinics.
And most of these people don't know that they can go out and get a plan for $100 a month to cover their essential needs, but because they don't believe it, they don't even shop for it. But I did shop for it. And I know. And Obama doesn't. And Democrats are just plain stupid over this thing. We don't want their plan. We don't want Canada's plan either. We want choices, we do want affordability, not cheap.
If you look at the state of your health care in Canada, I think they could stand some profiting competitors to give people choices so they don't have to wait more than a year for surgery to save a leg. I think people think they're legs are worth paying a bit more for. Our government has created a permanent poor class because they said they were going to help them with Corporate Taxes. And this health care thing, its just more to keep the poor poor.
A leg just isn't a priority, and they put a price tag on it. Its called rationing. My insurance from a private company won't do that if something happens to me where I need surgery to save my leg, because health insurance doesn't determine "Life Threatening". But Government puts a price tag on it.
This plan that the Democrats in the House has is not optional if they pass it. Everyone would have to purchase insurance, and more insurance than they need for most of their lives. This isn't conducive to building wealth. It does nothing to expand health savings accounts, which are tax free, even the interest. These are the things they aren't doing which would actually help people have the ability to afford, especially as they age.
i think healthcare should not be about building wealth
it should be about providing healthcare for your country's subjects
i know there is debate about the underclass not doing enough to deserve it but after the slavery issues and nothing being done about it i think the gov't needs to do something
i feel that now is your best chance to be responsive to the underclass because you have a very centrist president
I do. Because if you don't have wealth, you can't afford it. Unless of course, we just subject everyone to a Choiceless option. I don't think the underclass don't deserve it either. I don't know where you're getting the preconceptions from other than a media that isn't being honest about this either. The government does need to do something. That isn't what we oppose. We don't this plan that they are trying to push through so quickly.
Yes I would be, because right now, we have a 53 trillion dollar unfunded liability for medicare, medicaid, and social security combined. That is essentially a 53 trillion dollar debt owed to the American People.
but you do realize that in a country as big as USA and with a baby boomer generation that is getting older and retiring, they will be needing healthcare
in addition, there are people losing their jobs and those who are coming out of college and cannot find insurance
medicare for all would guarantee that everyone has access to quality care, not just the rich
Because of the failure to reimburse doctors under under reimbursing doctors, doctors charge private insurers 164% higher than they otherwise would for the services, because medicare doesn't pay enough to cover the costs of providing services.
It is 53 Trillion that the American People would have in their hands instead of unfunded, if they weren't forced to pay into the system. Thats $176,000 per US Citizen.
I think you are going to try to make into a racial thing, and that is where I'm going to go with you further into it. The black guy they beat up was beat up by two union thugs. Unions members also blocked opposition to the plan in a town hall meeting in Florida.
i dunno when i see conservatives on the news or listen to talk radio all they talk about is how great the south is and use racial code words to talk shit about blacks and mexicans
What? You're dishonest as hell! GOODBYE! If you want to talk honestly, drop your bullshit! You're going into the dishonesty of the Nancy Pelosi group!
Sure. You're not very intelligent. It requires ignorance to believe that opposition to these bills that affect MY FAMILY is racist. SURE. Keep believing that! And you'll regress.
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BibiiCletaei40 11 months ago
Bye bye Steve. You did a horrible job. I hope you can still get a job at Mcdonalds. I would never hire you.
MaHaRushie 1 year ago
Looks like that pro life thing is not working out very well for Steve Driehaus. Looks like to me the DNC turned there back on you Steve. Maybe next time you should be a little smarter next time. Thats if you ever have a next time.
USA100MPH 1 year ago
50 people in a room, WOW!
That's going to change the world!
tinghaling 1 year ago
thats my mom
taylorbrumley2602 1 year ago
@taylorbrumley2602 Is it? You know it ended up on Rush Limbaugh's radio show.
Cincinnati912Project 1 year ago
@Cincinnati912Project it was, when was it ? my mom wants to know because she listens to him all the time
taylorbrumley2602 1 year ago
@taylorbrumley2602 I don't remember now. Maybe a few weeks after the town hall.
Cincinnati912Project 1 year ago
@Cincinnati912Project oh thanks mom couldn't belive it was on rush limbaugh
taylorbrumley2602 1 year ago
Mr. Driehaus, why do you believe that the federal government should tell American women what they can do with their own bodies?
jkfromcincty 1 year ago
Does anyone know how we can put the screws to Driehaus again. He still has a lot of questions to answer. I'd love to go to another town hall meeting.
MaHaRushie 2 years ago
Congress is on break for three weeks now. He does the Congressman on Your Corner meetings. Give his office a call and find out when the next one is. Phone: (513) 684-2723
Cincinnati912Project 2 years ago
The United States of America is a wonderful place to live. It would be far better without all the cheeseburgers and morons, though.
junglepoppa 2 years ago
To the people at that meeting, why go the meeting if you are going to make a bunch of noise, when some one wants to answer a question, or questions? Is it because listening takes a liitle bit of efford, and you are just too lazy for that?
cwcwful 2 years ago
Our freedoms are being stripped away. I'm mad as hell. I almost felt like confronting this boob in church a few weeks ago.
This is serious business. We need to get loud and in their faces.
MaHaRushie 2 years ago
Getting loud and in someones face is what people do when they are incapable of reason. Like animals.
junglepoppa 2 years ago
Yeah, we've seen how you are able to reason on your other postings.
You can be confrontational and have valid arguments at the same time, genius.
MaHaRushie 2 years ago
I live in Canada. Me and my entire family have quality single payer health care. I choose my own doctor and my own hospital. It's great. Also I don't do the bidding of large insurance corporations to show up to town halls an scream like a dumb bitch.
junglepoppa 2 years ago
Fuck Canada!
newalm 2 years ago
Fuck You Newalm, hater!
kbenti 2 years ago
Who is Newalm. No I won't google it. Fuck you too.
junglepoppa 2 years ago
Well fuck you too.
junglepoppa 2 years ago
Keyword is Canada. Yes we in America are not so fond of socialism or govt intervention in our lives.
MaHaRushie 2 years ago
You mean like Social Security? You'll be refusing your pension will you? You'll be refusing medicare when you turn 65? The government forces you to buy car insurance, so do you refuse to drive?
junglepoppa 2 years ago
social security=bankrupt, medicare=going bankrupt.
Would you be for govt providing your car as well. What about housing?
Socialism is for pussies.
MaHaRushie 2 years ago
Enjoy your social security you toothless hypocrite!
junglepoppa 2 years ago
Explain yourself. Canada sucks.
MaHaRushie 2 years ago
I know you are but what am I?
junglepoppa 2 years ago
Most people pay into SS their entire adult life. So it would stand to reason that they expect to get it back at some point. I don't see how that is being hypocritical.
Mindless insults are what people do when they are incapable of reason.
Cincinnati912Project 2 years ago
Its hypocritical because it is a social program. Everyone pays into and collects when they are older. Kind of like everyone paying into a medical system and collecting when you get sick or injured. Kind of like insurance.
junglepoppa 2 years ago
So collecting on insurance when you are sick or injured is hypocritical? By your reasoning...
Cincinnati912Project 2 years ago
Any sort of program that benefits the people paying into it at some point or another (health (when you are sick), car (when you are in an accident), fire (when your house burns down), pension (when you retire) is socialist by nature, whether or not it is run by the government. If you are against medicare for all because it is socialist, you must also be against all the other social programs run by the government. If you can't understand that, you are blind.
junglepoppa 2 years ago
That's ridiculous. Purchasing insurance of any kind through a private provider is not a socialist program. It would be socialist if people who did not pay, benefited. You need to understand what socialism really is.
You seem to think you have to power to decide what people should believe. You don't.
Cincinnati912Project 2 years ago
If you pay premiums or you pay taxes to go into a system that pays back when needed (everyone pays taxes) than everyone pays and everyone benefits. (e.g. Two people pay 100/month into a private insurance plan, one gets cancer and the other doesn't. One is getting more back than the other even though they both paid the same. Same goes for taxes into a government run program. It's the bloody same.
junglepoppa 2 years ago
Not everyone pays taxes and insurance companies don't pay out to people who do not pay into it. You are attempting to redefine terms to support your arguments. You're not going to change my mind on this one.
Cincinnati912Project 2 years ago
Not everyone pays taxes? Your are redefining reality to support your arguments. I find willful ignorance just facinating. Everone pays taxes. Everyone.
junglepoppa 2 years ago
Buying car insurance is a state law, not Federal. Apples and oranges.
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newalm 2 years ago
Lester, if you are seriously implying that the name dictates the practice maybe you should look into some of the "democratic people's republics" such as north korea, before you try to compare nazis and the concept of socialism. Go to scandinavia(full of "evil socialists" for a while instead of spewing from your armchair and see that your blithering on just makes you and your ilk seem pitifully ignorant.
Auzzin11 2 years ago
HR 3400, a real Health reform bill, is stuck in committee by the democrats who do not want you to know about it. This bill would empower patients not government.
tuttle572 2 years ago
I think it's safe to say that most everyone knows about it. Go study up on "Administrative Law". Then we'll talk about who will have the power.
Cincinnati912Project 2 years ago
Do not confuse HR 3200(Bad) with HR3400 (Good) Most everyone does not know about HR3400 because it is not getting any coverage.
tuttle572 2 years ago
H.R. 3400, a bill sponsored by Georgia Congressman Tom Price of Roswell, is a better alternative than H.R. 3200.
HR 3400 includes medical malpractice reform, the ability to take ones health care across state lines and health savings accounts (HSAs) privately controlled, tax-deductible accounts used for health care expenses. All of these empower patients with choice and don't have diddly to do with administrative law.
tuttle572 2 years ago
H.R. 3400 isn't a healthcare bill. It's the "Rebuilding America's Infrastructure" bill and I believe it died in committee.
Cincinnati912Project 2 years ago
I swear to God, this is like herding goats.
Yes once upon a time in 2007 there was a HR3400 that dealt with infrastructure.
Fast forward to now, there is a health reform bill HR3400 that offers real solutions addressing the real problem: cost of health care. Tte media and the democrats do not want you to know about it. It is BURIED IN COMMITTEE so you will never hear about it. If people find out about it and call their congressmen and hold them accountable we may actually accomplish something.
tuttle572 2 years ago
Screeching into a mic, no matter the opinion, makes for sucky audio.
tomb20061 2 years ago
Many believe that Kennedy was killed for trying to end the Fed.
Cincinnati912Project 2 years ago
Nazi is short for the national socialist party that gained power in germany under Hitler. Ignorant people think that nazi means "killer of millions of jews". Socialism is the government take over of industries and services. That is what is happening in USA, so it is indeed based in fact to call anyone trying to use the government to take over Americas resources and companies a "nazi". I hope some of the left wing loons learned something today.
lesteryoung69 2 years ago
According to Wiki, It is short for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers' Party). The nickname is based on the first two syllables, as pronounced in German and was already current in 1923 in Bavaria.
Cincinnati912Project 2 years ago
Ever hear of Bernie Ward? He was a far left loon in San Francisco who had his own radio talk show on KGO. He is now doing 7 years in prison for child porn!
newalm 2 years ago
"It is strange that liberals today, claim to be "liberal", but do not embrace the liberal ideas our countries finding fathers and their wisdom of the concept of liberty. Instead, they have fallen from concept of liberty and blinding follow socialism which will eventually lead to the downfall of freedom in America."
newalm 2 years ago
Just a side note. youtube is messing with video response ratings, watch and you'll see it before your eyes.
Very interesting and it should be passed on.
gman100 2 years ago
Cmon man we need to COMPROMISE with the rocknroll rednecks because they have so much to contribute to the debate.
Who would be in the room screetching about socilalism if they werent here? Who would be shouting racist obscenities at the president and everyone else?
We need these people to be a meaningful part of the political process and me must earnestly respect all of their "ideas."
Whatchagonado 2 years ago
guys just vote these retard democrats out of office and im a proud rocknroll redneck and god bless all of the soldiers who protected my country while these liberal idiots set around smoke there pot and live on food stamps and pray to there god barack hueisseinbama
bigkidrocks69 2 years ago
I don't know what she said. I think she was asking about some hc exchange.
chevon1920 2 years ago
I am a reneck who volunteered for my country. what so bad about that? you need speel check real bad its GOVERMENT NOT GUVMINT. I glad school is starting back soon
mediaphotographer 2 years ago
Media, maybe he is trying to talk like Jimmy Hamas Carter by saying "Goment" Instead of "Government"
newalm 2 years ago
Barb...yes! Those evil capitalists! Someday you wish may come true for a true communist state! The only problem is, we still have our guns and will blow any fuck Marxist off the earth!
newalm 2 years ago
I have a preexisting condition because of someone's negligence and CANNOT get insurance. Thankfully I am a veteran and have been able to get health care through a government run program called the VA. The care has been excellent. The person who is responsible for giving me this preexisting condition, their private insurance company called Progressive fought me for 3 years but my settlement does not include future medical costs. You can thank a private company for passing the buck to taxpayers.
dancelovedrum 2 years ago 2
The one thing the pro-socialist health care proponents will not answer IS WHERE IS THE 1.7 TRILLION DOLLARS TO COVER OBAMACARE GOING TO COME FROM?
newalm 2 years ago
I have physical health problems and I have private insurance. At times they will pay good (if it is a PPO) and sometimes they will not pay much. And what I owe, I pay and don't expect anyone else to cover for me! I was raised, as just as my family ancestors were raised to be independent and take care of ourselves without asking the government to do it for us. At least my private insurance NEVER denies coverage! The Socialist health care bill will deny coverage if they see fit to do so.
newalm 2 years ago
I hate that you had to. It is sad that we have to be around people who are not thoughtful of other peoples situations. I personally have a difficult time with people because of that, I loath people putting down one another.
So many of us do the same things the "kids" you served with in Iraq did/do. We think down on people for what they believe and how they live.
I hope that for the sake of humanity that their experience in war gives them more repspect and perspective in life...
mnclesunkey 2 years ago
lol! That was entertaining!
Cincinnati912Project 2 years ago
Volkmoidruk If it wasnt for the US Military you would not be able to write your ignorant comments from your cheap laptop. It would not surprise me if you bought your cheap laptop with my tax dollars, because I have a strong feeling you are on welfare.
madcityjesse00 2 years ago 2
Wow. You know these people personally?
mnclesunkey 2 years ago
??????????????????????????????
Are these answers to my questions?
My questions were rhetorical.
Or is this a general comment?
I assume you know some "rednecks" who get all excited about 19 year old kids being sent over seas all in the name of oil? That's a great point. I'll be sure to keep my eye out for THOSE kind of people, ?
Ah. Medicare. What a subject....
mnclesunkey 2 years ago
You falsely assume that everyone in the military has their heads up the bums of people like Bush and obammy. Poor obammy and every other elitist boob in DC would shit their panties if they knew the truth about what is going on.
okefixico 2 years ago
This was awesome!
Micheleeroo 2 years ago
LOL
When has the government tried to get their hands around our healthcare, like they are now?
Name a government ran health program that is not a complete failure. Hell, any program.
The "where were these people when Bush was in office" tactic is wearing off quicker than expected.
There have been plenty of people protesting a lot of what our government has done since Clinton. We were shuned now everyone wants to know where we were at...
Where have YOU been?
Yeah, real funny.
mnclesunkey 2 years ago
Just didn't see you at the town hall meetings for the last 8 years. Just wonderin'
euqip 2 years ago
One point about Obama-care. Barack has blown an excellent op to reform HC by a lack of leadership and lacking a clear simple vision. He merely passed the buck and let an inept congress try to iron out health care. What should have been done is merely take on one issue at a time. I listed some issues I have below. Instead of rushing a 1000 pages of shit through the house at once it could have been broken up into multiple bills that would be simpler to pass and simpler to implement.
rebelsuck 2 years ago
Driving med cost down could be achieved simply by tort reforms,pay schedules like the Japanese have,caps on what private insurers must pay then Medicare can kick in(remeber 5% of the sick account for 50% of the cost),no catastrophic health care provided for illegals,clean up rampant scams on medicare etc,punish doctors and hospitals that bilk the system.
rebelsuck 2 years ago
Good Americans have been loathing big government for much longer than that, dumb-dumb.
okefixico 2 years ago
Speaking of coming out of the woodwork and increase of Govt.: Bush I, govt. spending increased 23%, Clinton's eight years, increase of 32%, Bush II's first 5 years, increase of 45%! Ouch, where was the red-faced screaming and crying during the last 8 years?
euqip 2 years ago
Agree euqip. The joke on Bush is he started as a social conservative and ended up a conservative socialist. Bush did have the bubble burst of the dot scams and then 9-11. Afghan war was fought on the cheap but Iraq was/is a money pit that could of been avoided. The housing bubble bust was on Bushs watch entirely. Overall,I would grade GW2s performance as a D+. Bush IMO was never a fiscal conservative.
rebelsuck 2 years ago
Ya know, it's really obnoxious and disingenuous that people keep saying that. "Where were you?". How the hell was anyone supposed to oppose a healthcare bill that didn't exist yet? Or Cap and Trade? DUH?
I was pretty angry with Bush by the time he left office. I just didn't know what to do about it other than scream at my TV and radio. I know a lot of people who felt the same.
But it's all about party politics, finger pointing and divisive tactics with you. *sigh*
Cincinnati912Project 2 years ago
"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." - Thomas Jefferson
newalm 2 years ago
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them" - Thomas Jefferson
newalm 2 years ago
Again, I'm asking, so this isn't a place for open discussion, then? What about your flock only your sheep allowed? This isn't an open forum? Have a little problem discussing your point of view, do ya? Our founders would be so proud that you encourage other points of view.
euqip 2 years ago
Okay, reformcongress , your words -
"I've never been denied coverage and have never been removed from an insurance policy, because I have never abused it."
You might have not gotten sick enough. Tell me you don't believe the people that are dropped from insurance companies are only the ones trying to scam them? You do realize many are people who's health got expensive for them. This is basic knowledge. Being the professional I am surprised that this fact has somehow eluded you.
jnny3000 2 years ago
I will tell you that that is the biggest reason that preexisting conditions are being excluded. If a person signs up for a month, gets services, then cancels it, that has to be punishable by law.
reformcongress 2 years ago
I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about here. How about some data to back up this "factoid" and a litle better description of this terrible scam that's eating into insurers' 12.4 billion dollar profit.
euqip 2 years ago
Our country was not founded on the basis of nanny government socialism! It is always "gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme!" Fuck that shit!
newalm 2 years ago
wow, so eloquently expressed.
euqip 2 years ago
Go Obamacare! When it comes time to vote again folks remember the greedy do nothings that have stood in the way of peace and prosperity for to long and get rid of them!
Jetsetleft 2 years ago
let me guess jetsetleft, you are broke, have never had money, will never have money, and you plan on doing nothing to better yourself except take hand outs from uncle sam. go play in traffic
droddy111082 2 years ago
Nope wrong all the way around.. I work 40+ hours a week..and I would prefer a public option for health care.. Typical assumptions coming from the closed minded and easily manipulated..
Jetsetleft 2 years ago
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rocky906 2 years ago
Whay are you calling people that don't agree with you "TROLLS" ? I thought this was an open debate. There are many folks on both sides using snarky comments and calling names. What about the market place of ideas? I thought this YOUTUBE was open for all to comment. You might want to go back through the comments and see how many of the various points of view are being cruel and name calling without making any meaningful points.
euqip 2 years ago
PWN3D to a new degree!
ThePoliticalMusician 2 years ago
You conservatives have convinced me not to pay my school taxes ever again. Why should I? I don't have any kids! lol
The real reason that these town hall meetings are so disruptive is that they're bringing out all these people that watch daytime talk shows. That teaches them that debate should really be a circus. That's the American mentality. About 5 th grade level. Smarten up America. GO OBAMACARE!
Just because you lost the war in the south, is not reason to be a conservative.
squarkman 2 years ago
The government is sworn to protect Americans. Insurance companies protect their profits. You pay taxes for your local fire department. You might never use their service but your neighbor might to save their home. What's more important? Your home or your body?
truc111 2 years ago
The government? Why don't we just eliminate all private sector jobs and the government can take over everything. I love dreamers.
rebelsuck 2 years ago
yes, that's exactly what I'm thinking the government should take over everything. A little hyperbolic, wouldn't you say? Don't forget, the preamble says that we should promote the general welfare.
euqip 2 years ago
Yep. There's a couple.
Cincinnati912Project 2 years ago
It only takes a mouse click to block LLORT3. You need to stop the race baiting.
Cincinnati912Project 2 years ago
glenn beck says Obama is pushing healthcare reform to give handouts to blacks and mexicans
LLORT3 2 years ago
goodnight for now
sleep tight under those white pointy sheets :)
LLORT3 2 years ago
The silent majority no more! Americans are waking up. Maybe members of Congress should give up their lifetime (free of charge) health care coverage and be a part of this Obama care which they are forcing down our throats.
AJinSCV 2 years ago
Shut down all the sleazy health insurance companys. Health Insurance should come from a well run government paid for by our tax dollars.
dmbfannh 2 years ago
The Health Insurance industry is sick and evil. All health insurance companys should be shut down for good. Health insurance should come from the government paid for by our tax dollars. Business should not be making money off peoples health, that is immoral. All you people against health care reform are selfish. Republincans just want to look out for them selfs and screw the rest. That's not moral.
dmbfannh 2 years ago
you silly sons a bitch's voted for change now you got it, stfu and deal with who you dipshits voted for,, morons...
chowhound3 2 years ago
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I love the one redneck who scribbled a protest sign stating something about Obama RX and Kool-Aid, and then they wrote "I'm not thristy"....T...H...R...I...S...T...Y Wow...that spoke volumes. Bo Duke apparently couldn't spell "thirsty"....for a sign with only about 4 words on it!!! Holy shhhh.... Let's put health care on the back burner and address the public education system first!!!!
praizjesus 2 years ago
Oh look, bunch of old white men and women, who have no interest in 'their country' or the health care debate whatsoever, they just want 'their country back' from a black president.
arozer 2 years ago
Here is our idea of reform:
1. tort reform loser pays
2. ability to buy health insurance nationwide
3. deregulation of health insurance mandates
4. guaranteed coverage
Non of it requires government spending all will result in lower costs to the consumers.
Kskasper4 2 years ago
Now that's a great start!
Cincinnati912Project 2 years ago
Someone ALWAYS has to play the race card, don't they?? Let it go already!! It's a bunch of people who don't want to end up living in a socialist country where the government controls everything!! Do you really want the people in Washington telling you which doctor you can see and what procedures that doctor can perform on you? Get a clue!! Those people are standing up for EVERYONE'S best interest.
ooshibooboo 2 years ago
I know. That was such a stupid post it's not even worth responding to. People who think it's just about race, have absolutely no interest in the truth and nothing anyone says will change that.
Or it's an infantile attempt to get people riled up. Either way it's best just to ignore people like that. :)
Cincinnati912Project 2 years ago
Yeah! Kind of like the blacks who spoke up in the 60s. Did you have a problem with their statments. What difference does make weather he is black, asian, hispanic, or white. It's about what he stands for. That's what these people are having a problem with. You sound a lot like you are prejudist to me.
ecoovert 2 years ago
Sure, thats it. It has to be racist? FOR A RACIST LIKE YOU! You're despicable!
reformcongress 2 years ago
healthcare is a right not something that should be a business
LLORT3 2 years ago
The Right to bear arms is a right. Its a business. Buy everyone a gun! NOW! Healthcare isn't a right. The right to pursue the means to get the health care coverage that you desire is a right.
reformcongress 2 years ago
i think the usa constitution should be amended to officially add healthcare as a right
all other industrialized nations have declared it as a right
the only reason it is not officially a right in usa is because your country is run by big business
LLORT3 2 years ago
No that isn't why. We don't have the right to go to Washington DC to protest for free. We do have to pay money for transportation to get there. We do have the right to free speech, but we have to take responsibility for it. A right isn't "FREE". We have the right to petition our government, but the government doesn't provide us with paper, pens, ink, and stamps to send those petitions in. Are you getting it?
reformcongress 2 years ago
no i don't understand
i think big businesses have usa citizens by the balls
in usa, the businesses come first and then its subjects
that is why usa gov't hands out money to corporations and banks
but none to its subjects
in canada we would never stand for that
LLORT3 2 years ago
That is why in Canada you pay $4 a gallon in gasoline, and we don't.
reformcongress 2 years ago
true, but our taxes are more evenly distributed when we pay into the system
instead of going just to the rich they are distributed more evenly making our economy more healthy across the board
it doesn't hurt that we have huge oil fields in alberta :)
LLORT3 2 years ago
You have a more health economy than ours? No you don't. Be honest about that one.
reformcongress 2 years ago
well by healthy i mean there are less people falling through the cracks
i mean i get that we have one tenth the people you do and we don't have the residue of slavery that you guys have still not addressed
but i just think that our economy is stronger because wealth is more evenly spread since we don't have a class of super rich and super poor
LLORT3 2 years ago
And we don't encourage government instituting so many regulations on businesses owned BY PEOPLE, that make it harder to be successful with them. We also don't like Government running Business, because, we have a little of that in Government ran monopolized Electric Companies with no competition. And then they blame private business for the high electric bills.
reformcongress 2 years ago
yes i think government should stay out of businesses but at the same time must strictly regulate them so that they do not take advantage of consumers
in usa it seems the consumers are held hostage to businesses that line your politicians' pockets to deregulate them
LLORT3 2 years ago
what makes you think our tax dollars go just to the rich? Oh, wait, never mind, its what Liberals are doing with our money now. Except for of course the trillions paid to Social Security qualifiers who have had their ability to create wealth stripped through the combination of corporate taxes and social security. And I wouldn't be proud of equal distribution of taxes on health care because health care needs aren't equal. The corrupt politicians are those compromising their duties.
reformcongress 2 years ago
do you agree that the poor in usa are getting inadequate healthcare
LLORT3 2 years ago
The reason they are poor is because of the Government forced Social Security down their throats and Corporate Taxes. The Government completely stopped the growth of individual wealth when they passed corporate taxes.
reformcongress 2 years ago
ok but do you think the poor are getting as good healthcare as the rich
LLORT3 2 years ago
No. But its because of the government, and now the government thinks its their obligation to drive the wedge between the rich and the poor even deeper. Our government has worked against the people's ability to gain wealth. Because of political ideologies, and that is why you have no rich people. You don't have a Canadian dream. Unless you all want to have mediocre health care equally, until a government worker refers to higher quality private clinics.
reformcongress 2 years ago
i think the gov't should look out for the poor
i believe it is the responsibility for the gov't to provide healthcare for all its subjects
LLORT3 2 years ago
And most of these people don't know that they can go out and get a plan for $100 a month to cover their essential needs, but because they don't believe it, they don't even shop for it. But I did shop for it. And I know. And Obama doesn't. And Democrats are just plain stupid over this thing. We don't want their plan. We don't want Canada's plan either. We want choices, we do want affordability, not cheap.
reformcongress 2 years ago
essential needs should be covered by the gov't, there should not be profit in healthcare
LLORT3 2 years ago
If you look at the state of your health care in Canada, I think they could stand some profiting competitors to give people choices so they don't have to wait more than a year for surgery to save a leg. I think people think they're legs are worth paying a bit more for. Our government has created a permanent poor class because they said they were going to help them with Corporate Taxes. And this health care thing, its just more to keep the poor poor.
reformcongress 2 years ago
what do you mean we have to wait a year to save a leg
stop reading fox news anecdotes and get informed bro
LLORT3 2 years ago
I'm not. I saw it myself. You get informed. You health care system is a disaster for actually delivering services.
reformcongress 2 years ago
how come i have no complaints
LLORT3 2 years ago 2
could you provide a link for this?
euqip 2 years ago
A leg just isn't a priority, and they put a price tag on it. Its called rationing. My insurance from a private company won't do that if something happens to me where I need surgery to save my leg, because health insurance doesn't determine "Life Threatening". But Government puts a price tag on it.
reformcongress 2 years ago
i think rationing happens regardless due to supply and demand
private companies ration products that is why the poor get the short end of the stick
i think the government should allow the rich to pay top dollar for their care but i think the government should step in to pay for the poor
LLORT3 2 years ago
Would you provide a link to this leg story?
euqip 2 years ago
Its on another youtube channel my Michael Crowder. PJTV.
reformcongress 2 years ago
This plan that the Democrats in the House has is not optional if they pass it. Everyone would have to purchase insurance, and more insurance than they need for most of their lives. This isn't conducive to building wealth. It does nothing to expand health savings accounts, which are tax free, even the interest. These are the things they aren't doing which would actually help people have the ability to afford, especially as they age.
reformcongress 2 years ago
i think healthcare should not be about building wealth
it should be about providing healthcare for your country's subjects
i know there is debate about the underclass not doing enough to deserve it but after the slavery issues and nothing being done about it i think the gov't needs to do something
i feel that now is your best chance to be responsive to the underclass because you have a very centrist president
LLORT3 2 years ago 2
I do. Because if you don't have wealth, you can't afford it. Unless of course, we just subject everyone to a Choiceless option. I don't think the underclass don't deserve it either. I don't know where you're getting the preconceptions from other than a media that isn't being honest about this either. The government does need to do something. That isn't what we oppose. We don't this plan that they are trying to push through so quickly.
reformcongress 2 years ago
would you be opposed to medicare for all
LLORT3 2 years ago
Yes I would be, because right now, we have a 53 trillion dollar unfunded liability for medicare, medicaid, and social security combined. That is essentially a 53 trillion dollar debt owed to the American People.
reformcongress 2 years ago
but you do realize that in a country as big as USA and with a baby boomer generation that is getting older and retiring, they will be needing healthcare
in addition, there are people losing their jobs and those who are coming out of college and cannot find insurance
medicare for all would guarantee that everyone has access to quality care, not just the rich
LLORT3 2 years ago
Yes, and medicare can't do it. Medicare caused it.
reformcongress 2 years ago
i thought medicare is one of the few USA gov't programs that works
LLORT3 2 years ago
Because of the failure to reimburse doctors under under reimbursing doctors, doctors charge private insurers 164% higher than they otherwise would for the services, because medicare doesn't pay enough to cover the costs of providing services.
reformcongress 2 years ago
i think the reason costs are so high is because there are so many ppl who are underinsured or uninsured
which means the insurance companies charge more
the gov't should switch to single payer so the gov't pays for the poor
LLORT3 2 years ago
It is 53 Trillion that the American People would have in their hands instead of unfunded, if they weren't forced to pay into the system. Thats $176,000 per US Citizen.
reformcongress 2 years ago
And I'm one of those that were laid off. I still don't support the government option. We wouldn't be laid off it wasn't for government intervention.
reformcongress 2 years ago
i'm sorry you lost your job but i think the gov't needs to look out for the poor, meaning those less advantaged than you
i think instead of dismissing healthcare for all you should look out for your fellow citizens
LLORT3 2 years ago
What makes you think I'm advantaged? I'm not wealthy.
reformcongress 2 years ago
i think you are more advantaged than a poor black person who has no access to quality care for instance
LLORT3 2 years ago
Oh, so now I'm starting to see where you're coming from. You think we oppose health care for black people. Goodbye!
reformcongress 2 years ago
i think opposition to poor blacks and hispanics is one of the main reasons for opposition to single payer, yes
LLORT3 2 years ago
Why would you think that? It was a black guy in St. Louis who opposed Obama who was beat up by Union Thugs in support of Obama.
reformcongress 2 years ago
i think it is really stupid and horrible to see how americans resort to violence when they can't get their way
but i think the union member was defending himself
at least according to the video i saw
anyway i think most blacks and hispanics would benefit from public option or single payer since they would help the poor
i think there is a lot of racial anxiety coming from republicans because they think reform would help blacks and mexicans but not whites
LLORT3 2 years ago
No he wasn't, two union members, one black, and one white, beat up one black guy who was handing out bumper stickers to oppose Obama's plan.
reformcongress 2 years ago
i don't think that's what i saw from the video, i observed a union member defending himself and his buddy in a fight
regardless it is sad to see people resort to violence
LLORT3 2 years ago
I think you are going to try to make into a racial thing, and that is where I'm going to go with you further into it. The black guy they beat up was beat up by two union thugs. Unions members also blocked opposition to the plan in a town hall meeting in Florida.
reformcongress 2 years ago
i don't think so, not from the video i saw
i think violence is bad but i specifically remember a union member getting knocked to the ground and another member fighting back to defend him
it turned out that the member who got knocked down is a reverend
i think it would be very hard to say that reformers are racist
they tend to be liberal and supportive of policies that are supported by blacks
LLORT3 2 years ago
You have many misconceptions about conservatives. This isn't the same conservative of the antibellum era.
reformcongress 2 years ago
i dunno when i see conservatives on the news or listen to talk radio all they talk about is how great the south is and use racial code words to talk shit about blacks and mexicans
LLORT3 2 years ago
What? You're dishonest as hell! GOODBYE! If you want to talk honestly, drop your bullshit! You're going into the dishonesty of the Nancy Pelosi group!
reformcongress 2 years ago
ok i gotta sleep anyway
LLORT3 2 years ago
Then why did they beat up a black guy. And FYI, the Chairman of the Republican Party, is Black. YOU'RE OUT OF LINE!
reformcongress 2 years ago
when your buddy is attacked it doesn't matter what color the assailant is, he is gonna get it
that is how union members are, they are like soldiers because they never leave a man behind
it is like a brotherhood almost
i think the GOP can put a black puppet as its figurehead but at the end of the day its policies are hostile to blacks
LLORT3 2 years ago
Sure. You're not very intelligent. It requires ignorance to believe that opposition to these bills that affect MY FAMILY is racist. SURE. Keep believing that! And you'll regress.
reformcongress 2 years ago