@Sviolinist Do you know why? I feel like if he's a transitional composer, between baroque and classical, then why don't period performers play his music in the tuning of the time? Or was the tuning of the time still 415?
@dbrcarson Yes, it is standard procedure, even for a classical composer. CPE Bach isn't exactly a Classical composer, though. I would say he is right in between Baroque and Classical. Some of his music has Classical elements, but not quite Classical. I don't think anyone will argue that.
Does anyone know what tuning system is used for the harpsichord in this recording? As a person with ears adjusted to 12 tone equal temperament tuning, I am hearing a slight dissonance, especially when the harpsichord is playing solo on this piece, and I am really liking it. It's almost like hearing music for the first time again.
Then again, I suppose it's possible that I'm just not adjusted to the timbre of the harpsichord's overtones.
@Esmeraldaviolin Yes, the harpsichordist is Miklos Spanyi. He's engaged in two massive recording projects, both of C.P.E. Bach's music. The first is all the solo keyboard music: hundreds of pieces many are multi-movement sonatas. He's playing different clavichords in that series. He's up to 20 volumes. The second is all the keyboard concertos. C.P.E. Bach wrote about 70. He's at 21 volumes and plays various harpsichords, tangent pianos and fortepianos. Strongly recommended!
@mostlyclassics Do you know anything about Concerto Armonico? I read a little bit about them, and it looks like they're a student orchestra. But they're fantastic! Except that may only be on this recording. I heard them on another of the C.P.E. Bach Keyboard Concerto volumes, and it doesn't sound nearly as good.
Who are they? Doesn't look like they have any other music out on CD.
@dbrcarson Concerto Armonico seems to be one of Hungary's best original instruments ensemble and has an extensive discography, some out of print. Don't mistake them for Concerto Armonico Freiburg, which is a German semi-professional (but usually very good) chamber orchestra. In addition to them playing in the first half or so of Spanyi's CPE Bach concertos project, I have them doing JC Bach symphonies (best Op. 6 #6 I have!) and Mozart's opera "Ascanio in Alba," K.111. Worth searching out.
...Non esistevano "geni", o compositori "immortali", solo (piu' o meno bravi o competenti) artigiani dell' arte musicale. In questa luce, W.F. Bach, CPE Bach, JS Bach....o Nardini (!), sono tutti sullo stesso piano. Non penso che la musica davvero brutta sarebbe potuta sopravvivere fino ad oggi.
@bersa888 Davvero pensi la musica di Johann Sebastian Bach sia allo stesso livello di altri compositori della sua epoca?Rispetto il tuo pensiero ma,tecnicamente,sei fuori strada.
@HiTech2011Synth :Si', certo, e' una di quelle questioni difficili. La musica di Bach rappresentera' sempre la quasi totale perfezione di tutti gli elementi musicali che rendono un compositore grande, al punto da far sembrare "minori" compositori con talenti artistici grandi tanto quanto lui, quali Vivaldi, Handel, Scarlatti...insomma, la perfezione dell'arte bachiana non deve offuscare l'enorme creativita' e competenza degli altri. Si parla sempre di ideali artistici differenti, etc. etc.
Penso che discorsi del tipo "peccato che tal compositore sia vissuto in un periodo di passaggio", o "non fu mai grande quanto il padre" o "non sviluppo' pienamente le sue tecniche compositive",etc. li trovo da ridere. I compositori (o artisti, scrittori, etc.) del passato non sapevano di essere nel "tardo barocco" o "primo classicismo"... scrivevano musica.. e basta :-) con convinzione e ai fini di una esecuzione o pubblicazione piu' o meno immediata, per poi passare alla composizione seguente.
I had never even heard of CPE until recently. His music blows me away. I've heard some say he is even better than Mozart. I like his music better, but don't pretend to know what it is I am listening to. It just hit me right...
@gr0mithtimon CPE has more romantic expression (characteristic of sturm und drang) but without losing the contrapuntal complexity that JS Bach perfected. His melodies are just better too. Although Bach was amazing at making all these multi-voiced fugues, I find that CPE Bach's fugal subjects (and Handel's for that matter) are actually more melodically appealing than J.S. Bach's. He's fat, basically.
Johann (Voice of Darth Vader): Carl, I am your FATHER!!!!!!!!!!
fameland 1 week ago
Aw the speech bubbles are so cute :D
Terrdemarzielle 2 months ago
0 dislikes :)
kevinpradipta2 2 months ago
@Sviolinist Do you know why? I feel like if he's a transitional composer, between baroque and classical, then why don't period performers play his music in the tuning of the time? Or was the tuning of the time still 415?
dbrcarson 4 months ago
typically our dear CPE!!
ttomace 5 months ago
A quand une intégrale ?
MrTIRILLY 5 months ago in playlist CPE Bach
What harpsichord is the one playing? French perhaps?
UKpatriot90 7 months ago
@UKpatriot90 no german,haas.
TheGravicembalo 7 months ago
@TheGravicembalo Thanks!
UKpatriot90 7 months ago
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Always the father behind him.
Fervorum 8 months ago
Qué magnifica música componía este gran maestro!
yulisaaa 8 months ago
Does anybody know why this is being played in Baroque tuning? Is that standard procedure even for a classical composer?
dbrcarson 9 months ago in playlist Special
@dbrcarson Yes, it is standard procedure, even for a classical composer. CPE Bach isn't exactly a Classical composer, though. I would say he is right in between Baroque and Classical. Some of his music has Classical elements, but not quite Classical. I don't think anyone will argue that.
Sviolinist 4 months ago
Hermosooo!!!
vjrmagno 9 months ago
Hermosooo!!!
vjrmagno 9 months ago
Does anyone know what tuning system is used for the harpsichord in this recording? As a person with ears adjusted to 12 tone equal temperament tuning, I am hearing a slight dissonance, especially when the harpsichord is playing solo on this piece, and I am really liking it. It's almost like hearing music for the first time again.
Then again, I suppose it's possible that I'm just not adjusted to the timbre of the harpsichord's overtones.
jckoto3 11 months ago
This is some great, great concerto music. I love it! Nice going Emmanuel.
Sviolinist 1 year ago
incredible.... so strong, shows alot of vitality....
rosasbarrocas 1 year ago
Just curioused: what does Allegro Spanyi mean?
Ch3ckm4t3 1 year ago
@Ch3ckm4t3 "Spanyi" is, I guess, the Harpsichord player. True? Love, Esmeralda.
Esmeraldaviolin 1 year ago
@Esmeraldaviolin yes!
TheGravicembalo 1 year ago
@Esmeraldaviolin Yes, the harpsichordist is Miklos Spanyi. He's engaged in two massive recording projects, both of C.P.E. Bach's music. The first is all the solo keyboard music: hundreds of pieces many are multi-movement sonatas. He's playing different clavichords in that series. He's up to 20 volumes. The second is all the keyboard concertos. C.P.E. Bach wrote about 70. He's at 21 volumes and plays various harpsichords, tangent pianos and fortepianos. Strongly recommended!
mostlyclassics 11 months ago
@mostlyclassics Do you know anything about Concerto Armonico? I read a little bit about them, and it looks like they're a student orchestra. But they're fantastic! Except that may only be on this recording. I heard them on another of the C.P.E. Bach Keyboard Concerto volumes, and it doesn't sound nearly as good.
Who are they? Doesn't look like they have any other music out on CD.
dbrcarson 9 months ago
@dbrcarson Concerto Armonico seems to be one of Hungary's best original instruments ensemble and has an extensive discography, some out of print. Don't mistake them for Concerto Armonico Freiburg, which is a German semi-professional (but usually very good) chamber orchestra. In addition to them playing in the first half or so of Spanyi's CPE Bach concertos project, I have them doing JC Bach symphonies (best Op. 6 #6 I have!) and Mozart's opera "Ascanio in Alba," K.111. Worth searching out.
mostlyclassics 9 months ago
@paopaomanalasan
Yes of course, who else?
stargirlsusan 1 year ago
I want my wig back after you're finished being painted son.
5hawnK3lly 1 year ago
He had a good teacher
stargirlsusan 1 year ago
@stargirlsusan His father?
paopaomanalansan 1 year ago
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Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach is without doubt one of the five great classical composers. The others: Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven and Schubert
seabird22 1 year ago
Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach is without doubt one of the five great classical composers. The others: Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert.
seabird22 1 year ago 5
@seabird22 You forgot Bach, certainly the best, Vivaldi, and Haendel.
devilymoon 1 month ago
excellent!! and the conversation between father and son is crack :]
dagisa123 1 year ago
I like the "Hello Carl", "Hello Father" bubbles that pop up. But the one coming from J.S. is pointed away from him. Just that I'd point that out.
loudcosmicyummy 1 year ago
...Non esistevano "geni", o compositori "immortali", solo (piu' o meno bravi o competenti) artigiani dell' arte musicale. In questa luce, W.F. Bach, CPE Bach, JS Bach....o Nardini (!), sono tutti sullo stesso piano. Non penso che la musica davvero brutta sarebbe potuta sopravvivere fino ad oggi.
bersa888 2 years ago 2
@bersa888 sono d'accordo!bravo bersa!
TheGravicembalo 2 years ago
@bersa888 Davvero pensi la musica di Johann Sebastian Bach sia allo stesso livello di altri compositori della sua epoca?Rispetto il tuo pensiero ma,tecnicamente,sei fuori strada.
Cordiali Saluti
HiTech2011Synth 10 months ago
@HiTech2011Synth :Si', certo, e' una di quelle questioni difficili. La musica di Bach rappresentera' sempre la quasi totale perfezione di tutti gli elementi musicali che rendono un compositore grande, al punto da far sembrare "minori" compositori con talenti artistici grandi tanto quanto lui, quali Vivaldi, Handel, Scarlatti...insomma, la perfezione dell'arte bachiana non deve offuscare l'enorme creativita' e competenza degli altri. Si parla sempre di ideali artistici differenti, etc. etc.
bersa888 10 months ago
Penso che discorsi del tipo "peccato che tal compositore sia vissuto in un periodo di passaggio", o "non fu mai grande quanto il padre" o "non sviluppo' pienamente le sue tecniche compositive",etc. li trovo da ridere. I compositori (o artisti, scrittori, etc.) del passato non sapevano di essere nel "tardo barocco" o "primo classicismo"... scrivevano musica.. e basta :-) con convinzione e ai fini di una esecuzione o pubblicazione piu' o meno immediata, per poi passare alla composizione seguente.
bersa888 2 years ago
Fantastyczny koncercik. Dawno nie słuchałem tak wybitnej muzyki. Wielki szacunek dla Carla Filipa.
TheRoberto810 2 years ago
That is what it's all about...if the music hits that spot in you, what more do you need.
nancyzab 2 years ago
I had never even heard of CPE until recently. His music blows me away. I've heard some say he is even better than Mozart. I like his music better, but don't pretend to know what it is I am listening to. It just hit me right...
TravelerDiogenes 2 years ago 10
@TravelerDiogenes
"He is the father, we are the children."
--Mozart (speaking of Emanuel Bach)
isitvalottioryoung1 1 year ago 2
@TravelerDiogenes I'd even say he's better than daddy.
LiberateEireIRA 1 year ago
@LiberateEireIRA
Yah? What makes you say that?
gr0mithtimon 10 months ago
@gr0mithtimon CPE has more romantic expression (characteristic of sturm und drang) but without losing the contrapuntal complexity that JS Bach perfected. His melodies are just better too. Although Bach was amazing at making all these multi-voiced fugues, I find that CPE Bach's fugal subjects (and Handel's for that matter) are actually more melodically appealing than J.S. Bach's. He's fat, basically.
LiberateEireIRA 10 months ago
Indeed, CPE Bach rocks ;)
LtTemeraire 2 years ago 2
I know this is probably irreverent, has anyone notice the # 420for this piece; just a coincidence
Bikowhippet1 2 years ago
si le immagini servono solo ad accompagnare la musica.
in vita era + famoso carl,il 'bach di berlino'.
non credo esista un meglio o un peggio nel divenire storico....ducunt fata volentem,nolentem trahunt dicevano gli stoici..
certo johann sebastian è il massimo!
TheGravicembalo 2 years ago
video un pochino statico
x la musica meglio il figlio semisconosciuto ai + o il famosissimo padre????
giannibodoar 2 years ago