Funny thing, if marijuana was legalized, you might see a lot more people smoking it, which would mean a lot more people driving while influenced by it, which would mean a lot more marijuana-related car accidents. Deducing that marijuana is less dangerous than alcohol because there's less statistical accidents from it, is like claiming that having a nuclear weapon is less dangerous because there's virtually no one who has ever accidentally detonated one. Make it legal, then see what happens.
@eggiex1 marijuana doesnt impare you the same way alcohol does, many driving tests have been done in the uk. Im sure you can find the results if you search around a little bit
@eggiex1 "funny thing" is over 100 million Americans have smoked marijuana before - there are enough people out there using marijuana for it to make an impact on road accident statistics.... All statistics including crime, anti-social behaviour, health, road accidents, etc etc all indicate alcohol is a far bigger problem than marijuana. Alcohol may be used more, but not enough to explain the massive difference in these statistics between the 2 substances.
@eggiex1 p.s. comparing the legalization of marijuana to accidentally detonating a nuclear bomb..? your argument is pure fantasy with no substantial foundations at all, only scare-mongering which you have probably had forced onto yourself
@6billiondeaths Wow, you need to learn the meaning of the term analogy before you accuse me of scare-mongering. Your implication is that I'm saying marijuana is as dangerous as a nuclear bomb. You're the one arguing a fantasy if you think that was my point.
@eggiex1 my implication was that your analogy was ridiculous and far-fetched (and added absolutely nothing to your argument). i got your point, you were saying there would be a sharp rise in road related accidents due to marijuana if it became legal - yet you provided no evidence for it at all (oh except for your brilliant nuclear weapons analogy).
@6billiondeaths The point of an analogy is to emphasize the issue in the comparison, and the extreme analogies always make the specific point more apparent. You say you "get my point" but at the same time you obsessed over the "nuclear" part instead of the analogous relationship. So you're fixating on the argument you can win, instead of the argument I am making.
@eggiex1 ok i will address all your points seperately.... first of all what you say about an analogy is correct, i could argue about itagain here and say "well you've brought it up again..." and we could go on forever, but i will not - its a quasi-important part of the much bigger argument so we'll leave it here?
@6billiondeaths Also, you make the the "no evidence" argument about something that makes sense while at the same time using a BS statistic of 100 million marijuana users. It's not about how many people have used it but how many instances of uses there are every day. 10 people driving drunk 1 night = 10 possible accidents, 1 person doing that every day for a year = 365 possible accidents. I bet most of those 100 million people you pulled out of your ass have done it "at least once" and that's it.
@eggiex1 that statistic wasn't BS... it may of been vague but given the amount of surveys, studies, reports, etc etc that have been conducted in relation to marijuana the statistic i provided was quite accurate. of course the instances of use everyday are significantly lower than alcohol but they are still not insignificant. my point was there is enough people using marijuana for there to be statistics on usage related to car accidents.
@6billiondeaths Oh, and since I know you're going to argue this point about my "common sense" statement: The fear of getting in trouble with the law is a deterrent for at least some people, so to claim that this is not a common sense point is ignoring the obvious. If X is illegal and X becomes legal, people who would be willing to do X but were afraid to get in trouble will now be able to freely engage in it. If you don't see the common sense in that there's no point in arguing with you anymore.
@eggiex1 not at all i agree with what you say - legalising something increases the amount of people willing to try it. my argument would be that marijuana is that harmful to you (at least according to the latest scientific studies that are available) so why should it be illegal anyway? it isn't any more dangerous than smoking a cigarette or having a beer so its illegality seems unnecessary. if anything the biggest negative on an individual using marijuana is when they are actually caught
@6billiondeaths Well it looks like there was nothing more than a simple misunderstanding here then. I'm glad you agree that legalizing it will increase its usage, and I doubt you would argue that an increase in usage will lead to some increase in undesirable effects at the aggregate level. (e.g. increase the number of drivers in a city and it will invariably lead to an increase in car accidents. Insurance companies know this.) (to be continued)
@6billiondeaths My point was that it would make sense to see an increase in those undesirable effects. I never made any claim that it should be kept illegal on those grounds, just as driving privileges should not be revoked simply because of an increase in car accidents. I simply stated what logically followed. You are free to argue "how much" of an added negative effect it would have to legalize it, or whether that would justify legalizing it or not, but I think my initial statement was sound.
@6billiondeaths And fair enough, I guess I probably shouldn't have said that it would increase it by "a lot more" in my initial comment months ago, but I was just making a point. I didn't expect someone to bust my balls over it nitpicking my choice of words (which I guess is true for my analogy as well, but w/e)
Last thing I'll add, I actually don't have a problem about legalizing it (except for concerns I have about second-hand marijuana smoke) so it's not like I was attacking its legalization.
@6billiondeaths i have yet to see any evidence which suggest marijuana is more harmful to society (and the user) than alcohol except for it being a gateway drug - if legalized this harmful effect would be completely voided.
the 43% are retarded drunker poeple who are probably dying of liver poising and kidney failure trying to make dem selves feel better , but it realy does shock me how arragant americans are cos here in south africa it would have definitley ben like 90 percent in favor of weed
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KRAZE87GMODDER 7 months ago
Bob's like "Hell Yeah"
danbrown4life 11 months ago
cant hear a thing
fuuuk
century172 1 year ago
the audio on this video is just horrible
ThatArabGuy 1 year ago
Funny thing, if marijuana was legalized, you might see a lot more people smoking it, which would mean a lot more people driving while influenced by it, which would mean a lot more marijuana-related car accidents. Deducing that marijuana is less dangerous than alcohol because there's less statistical accidents from it, is like claiming that having a nuclear weapon is less dangerous because there's virtually no one who has ever accidentally detonated one. Make it legal, then see what happens.
eggiex1 1 year ago
@eggiex1 marijuana doesnt impare you the same way alcohol does, many driving tests have been done in the uk. Im sure you can find the results if you search around a little bit
orang3c4rt 1 year ago
@eggiex1 "funny thing" is over 100 million Americans have smoked marijuana before - there are enough people out there using marijuana for it to make an impact on road accident statistics.... All statistics including crime, anti-social behaviour, health, road accidents, etc etc all indicate alcohol is a far bigger problem than marijuana. Alcohol may be used more, but not enough to explain the massive difference in these statistics between the 2 substances.
6billiondeaths 7 months ago
@eggiex1 p.s. comparing the legalization of marijuana to accidentally detonating a nuclear bomb..? your argument is pure fantasy with no substantial foundations at all, only scare-mongering which you have probably had forced onto yourself
6billiondeaths 7 months ago
@6billiondeaths Wow, you need to learn the meaning of the term analogy before you accuse me of scare-mongering. Your implication is that I'm saying marijuana is as dangerous as a nuclear bomb. You're the one arguing a fantasy if you think that was my point.
eggiex1 7 months ago
@eggiex1 my implication was that your analogy was ridiculous and far-fetched (and added absolutely nothing to your argument). i got your point, you were saying there would be a sharp rise in road related accidents due to marijuana if it became legal - yet you provided no evidence for it at all (oh except for your brilliant nuclear weapons analogy).
6billiondeaths 7 months ago
@6billiondeaths The point of an analogy is to emphasize the issue in the comparison, and the extreme analogies always make the specific point more apparent. You say you "get my point" but at the same time you obsessed over the "nuclear" part instead of the analogous relationship. So you're fixating on the argument you can win, instead of the argument I am making.
eggiex1 7 months ago
@eggiex1 ok i will address all your points seperately.... first of all what you say about an analogy is correct, i could argue about itagain here and say "well you've brought it up again..." and we could go on forever, but i will not - its a quasi-important part of the much bigger argument so we'll leave it here?
6billiondeaths 7 months ago
@6billiondeaths Also, you make the the "no evidence" argument about something that makes sense while at the same time using a BS statistic of 100 million marijuana users. It's not about how many people have used it but how many instances of uses there are every day. 10 people driving drunk 1 night = 10 possible accidents, 1 person doing that every day for a year = 365 possible accidents. I bet most of those 100 million people you pulled out of your ass have done it "at least once" and that's it.
eggiex1 7 months ago
@eggiex1 that statistic wasn't BS... it may of been vague but given the amount of surveys, studies, reports, etc etc that have been conducted in relation to marijuana the statistic i provided was quite accurate. of course the instances of use everyday are significantly lower than alcohol but they are still not insignificant. my point was there is enough people using marijuana for there to be statistics on usage related to car accidents.
6billiondeaths 7 months ago
@6billiondeaths Oh, and since I know you're going to argue this point about my "common sense" statement: The fear of getting in trouble with the law is a deterrent for at least some people, so to claim that this is not a common sense point is ignoring the obvious. If X is illegal and X becomes legal, people who would be willing to do X but were afraid to get in trouble will now be able to freely engage in it. If you don't see the common sense in that there's no point in arguing with you anymore.
eggiex1 7 months ago
@eggiex1 not at all i agree with what you say - legalising something increases the amount of people willing to try it. my argument would be that marijuana is that harmful to you (at least according to the latest scientific studies that are available) so why should it be illegal anyway? it isn't any more dangerous than smoking a cigarette or having a beer so its illegality seems unnecessary. if anything the biggest negative on an individual using marijuana is when they are actually caught
6billiondeaths 7 months ago
@6billiondeaths is not that harmful to you*
6billiondeaths 7 months ago
@6billiondeaths Well it looks like there was nothing more than a simple misunderstanding here then. I'm glad you agree that legalizing it will increase its usage, and I doubt you would argue that an increase in usage will lead to some increase in undesirable effects at the aggregate level. (e.g. increase the number of drivers in a city and it will invariably lead to an increase in car accidents. Insurance companies know this.) (to be continued)
eggiex1 7 months ago
@6billiondeaths My point was that it would make sense to see an increase in those undesirable effects. I never made any claim that it should be kept illegal on those grounds, just as driving privileges should not be revoked simply because of an increase in car accidents. I simply stated what logically followed. You are free to argue "how much" of an added negative effect it would have to legalize it, or whether that would justify legalizing it or not, but I think my initial statement was sound.
eggiex1 7 months ago
@6billiondeaths And fair enough, I guess I probably shouldn't have said that it would increase it by "a lot more" in my initial comment months ago, but I was just making a point. I didn't expect someone to bust my balls over it nitpicking my choice of words (which I guess is true for my analogy as well, but w/e)
Last thing I'll add, I actually don't have a problem about legalizing it (except for concerns I have about second-hand marijuana smoke) so it's not like I was attacking its legalization.
eggiex1 7 months ago
@6billiondeaths i have yet to see any evidence which suggest marijuana is more harmful to society (and the user) than alcohol except for it being a gateway drug - if legalized this harmful effect would be completely voided.
6billiondeaths 7 months ago
43% are delusional
itscrunk22 3 years ago 3
agreed
jeffms2 2 years ago
4 minutes to answer one question?
danbrown4life 3 years ago 5
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EpicRainProductions 11 months ago
ohhhh shit last time i drove on weed it was like a videogame... hahahaa
musichristopher 3 years ago
Eating marijuana in brownies right now....
I searched some and found this....
LovelyYTRocks 3 years ago
the 43% are retarded drunker poeple who are probably dying of liver poising and kidney failure trying to make dem selves feel better , but it realy does shock me how arragant americans are cos here in south africa it would have definitley ben like 90 percent in favor of weed
djkpstd 3 years ago
Guess that 43% has never smoked it. Why isn't this plant legal yet?
DePrompt 4 years ago
whooooo hooo let the truth be revealed!
nnadi 4 years ago 6