Hindus worship cows, and yet the US has no problem slaughtering millions of them. Buddhists respect animals and all life, yet the US has no problem slaughtering billions of them.
Why does the US want to stop people in Japan or anywhere else from fishing for Whale?
This is a regulated and restricted trade, why try to prevent it altogether? The "war on drugs" seems to have gone pretty well right?
whales are smart animals. they got big brains. they are smart enough 2 commit suicide. beached whales.better off if japan kills them.i dont want no rotten stinkin whale carcass on my beaches.GO TEAM JAPAN WHOOOOO!!!!!!!
Japan has the most to gain of any country in conserving the oceans. Instead of fighting conservation with formal objections, Japan should be leading the way in restoring the health of ALL the fisheries in the ocean. Japans very food supply is in jeopardy! All this propaganda and counter propaganda, fighting, rudeness and for what? So Japan can ignore an attempt to restore at least one ocean of the world?
Japan is Australia's largest export market so Japanese is taught to many Australian children in primary and secondary schools. Japan is my favourite country but whaling is a real issue for me. I support organized whaling which means not hunting the endangered species of whales, killing no more than about 600 whales and making sure that the hunting strategies work (making sure that the whales die in a more humane way).
Some Western countries, especially Australia, use anti-whaling in much the same way as China uses Japan and US-bashing. It's much too difficult to fix their own problems at home. Take the Green Party in Australia, they're a laughing joke and utterly incompetent. But by focusing on the evil Japanese, they can point the finger for all their problems outside their borders.
Fox News in the US uses these same kind of fear tactics wrt Muslims, Socialism, etc.
Prohibitionism based upon pseudo-religious cult-like worshiping of whales is not conservation nor regulation. Japan's position and actions are perfectly logical and legitimate. The moratorium states that more research is required, so Japan has undertaken said research.
It makes sense for people not subjected to insane propaganda about "the whales." Most governments recognize the anti-whaling position is extremist -- they're relieved the crazy people are focusing energy outside their own country
"Japan risks its reputation and credibility by going against IWC attempts at conservation and regulation"
Preservationism based upon a pseudo-religious worshiping of whales is neither conservation nor regulation. Japan's position is logical and consistent with their aims. The moratorium demands research be done, so they are doing it.
Japan does not worship whales like a loud minority of Westerners. Japanese have also not been subjected to false propaganda -- "the whales" are not endangered.
"Japan has a formal objection to SOWS. That means if commercial whaling were ever resumed there would be no legal way to stop the Japanese from whaling directly inside the sanctuary"
1. Why is it necessary to prevent all whaling in the place where whaling is most sustainable?
2. That's not what it means at all. Commercial whaling would be determined by RMP and RMS. All it means is that the sanctuary is bogus, but that's true regardless since it was passed in violation of Article V.
This is an excellent video and disproves an old She Shepherd dishonesty that whaling is a new thing in Japan and not a tradition. This collage of ancient Japanese artwork proves the truth in history beautifully.
@cloudberry121 wow, are you stupid, the whale are doing to disappear if they keep going like that, but thats fine with you?? the great propagandabuster? Wow, shoot me you drug, i need it to see the life in such a good way cause seriuosly, we're running toward selfdestruction but because of retard like you, people still think everything is fine. God i hate people like you!
It's not my fault you're retarded and too stupid to realize you have eaten other animals without the risk of them goin extinct. Now go worship that fat pig Watson. Your human whale.
It's funny how so many Americans are against whaling when I heard we ourselves do it. Europeans do it; many countries do. I'm a vegetarian so I don't eat meat, but I think the key here is to consume what's necessary. It's like logging where they cut down one large one and then plant a few more to grow in it place. Whale what they need but then leave them to grow. Japan is a beautiful country and I think it's wrong for Americans and such to judge a country a hundred times more civilized then US
This video is an insult. Traditional and historic whaling by Japan is nothing like what goes on today with industrialized whaling in the Southern Ocean. In fact, when the United States introduced commercial whaling to Japan (yes, that's right, it's western imperialism you're defending here) it was protested against by the traditional fishermen in coastal villages who had been the historic whalers - exactly because they felt it would promote indiscriminate killing of whales, which it does!
@Pandonodrim That's an interesting and long debate in itself. But even if we were to put that aside, there is nothing wrong with a sustainable consumption of natural resources and it is unfair to selectively pick on or even demonize those who you disagree with. Particularly so when the distribution of information is knowingly skewed to social-engineer specific views in the west. Even if one assumed for the sake of argument that your accusation was correct, it would still be hypocritical.
@bryanbhu Other life forms are not a "natural resource" to be exploited at will by humans, this is arrogant and anthropocentric. And there is nothing "sustainable" about commercialized, industrialized whale hunting. Your points here sound good but they are not conducive with reality.
Skewed distribution of information in the west? Lol - yes, it is. I know quite a lot about that actually. But it is equally if not more skewed in Japan.
There's nothing hypocritical about the facts I presented.
@Pandonodrim Whaling is sustainable. Even the IWC would have given a go ahead and expired the moratorium by now were it not for politics. As for the skewed distribution of information, I'm glad you agree with me.
As for the "facts you presented", perhaps I'm not quite getting your point correctly. I'm under the impression that your point was to stop whaling BECAUSE the historical factor is not significant. The two doesn't link at all. You're just as welcome to whale under regulation.
@bryanbhu The IWC is a commission set up to examine whaling, not whales themselves. It is not a conservation organization, and whaling is not sustainable.
I'm not sure what your asking. Many people have tried to justify whaling because it is "traditional for the Japanese people." I was simply refuting this claim. Not only that, but even if the whaling they were doing WAS traditional, doing something solely for the sake of tradition is not excusable - not when other factors oppose it.
@Pandonodrim That's just not incorrect on IWC. Satisfying the member states to resume whaling requires science which naturally involve whales themselves. I reiterate, without the subjective politics IWC would lift the moratorium as there's material evidence to support it. You chant that whaling is unsustainable like a fixed doctrine which it is not. As for tradition should it exist, it only adds to reasons, not subtract from it. Meat eating never required tradition as a pre-requisite.
@bryanbhu You're completely off base, both in your understanding and representation of what I have said and of the reality of whaling, the IWC and sustainability.
@Pandonodrim My approach and stance on IWC is the standard objective methodology which is the most considered and virtuous approach when dealing with contested subjects of our society and world. When two views meet, my approach is the norm and surely you are aware of this in some form outside whaling. Deadlock occurs when you fail to observe this impartiality. This applies in all areas, not just limited to the debate on whaling.
@bryanbhu That doesn't change the fact that the IWC was formed to govern the issue of commercial whaling, not the conservation and preservation of whales. It is a slight but important difference and affects the essence of the debate and your approach to it.
@Pandonodrim Then you are moving the goalpost. Any gathering and appointing a committee in contested areas is the common approach and IWC is no exception. Despite the politics, I still believe that IWC is important in finding a common ground and it's not fair to shove it when the outcome is not to your liking. You sound as though you have a philosophy which defies all common practices and this may not actually be a problem of whaling at all. What is your view on meat eating as a whole?
@bryanbhu You are correct, but only if you accept that the sustainability issue is all that matters in regards to whaling. To truly look at the bigger picture you cannot rely on an organization like the IWC.
Meat eating in general I advocate against. At least against industrialized, corporate meat production. Remember that Sea Shepherd is a vegan organization.
@Pandonodrim Ahh ok, makes more sense then. My view on this has been more an extension of the general practice globally. I think your issue isn't so much to do with whaling but the overall social convention. You're exploiting the circumstances surrounding whaling to address your issues with the wider practice. You say the bigger picture, but in the big picture whaling is relatively insignificant compared to a more widely practiced social convention. I can understand your sentiment though.
@bryanbhu Eh, not really. Whaling is hugely important - by that I mean the actual conservation of the lives of individual whales. My issue is not some great social agenda, more of a philosophy.
A question I have often asked and rarely received a straightforward answer to: what gives the Japanese (or anyone else) the "right" to kill whales, while at the same time denies people like me a "right" to defend and protect them? Why endorse slaughter and condemn the saving of life?
@Pandonodrim Oh you have as much right. It isn't an exclusivity, it is just a general convention. Whales are not exempt. I wasn't denying you the right, but rather pointing at the core issue. If you saved half the cows in your own country, I suspect you'd have achieved a profoundly greater fulfillment of the philosophy you speak of. Whaling is just a superset of the general practice and a very minor end of that scale. You seem to be barking up the wrong tree or avoiding the core issue.
I love whales and think Japan should kill less of them. However,it is the choise of the japanese people,not mine and if someone offered whale when i visit Japan,i would accept out of respect for the people and for the whale .
@Hyak44 Thank you for your comment. That is exactly the point I wanted to make and you are welcome to Japan. I myself don't like to see seals killed in Canada but it is the tradition in some parts of your country . I would try the meat to know their culture if I have a chance to visit the place.
@wubai565 Yeah it's okay to respect tradition but, traditions have to be restrained when they but the biggest living organism on earth, or in earth cause it's in the water, in extinction danger, something has to be done. Chinese are doing the same thing with sharks. The disappearance of these two key species in the food chain will disturb the ocean's big time. Japan and all these countries are the pacific coastline and I can't wait to see it feel the repercussion of there barbarian overfishing.
@wubai565@wubai565 Yeah it's okay to respect tradition but, traditions have to be restrained when they but the biggest living organism on earth, or in earth cause it's in the water, in extinction danger, something has to be done. Chinese are doing the same thing with sharks. The disappearance of these two key species in the food chain will disturb the ocean's big time. Japan and all these countries are the pacific coastline and I can't wait to see it feel the repercussion of there overfishing
I'm sorry. I am moving for work and the research. Japan is a wonderful country. Gaining power of China is dangerous. Japan should make it to the intimacy with India. Japan is a strong, beautiful, gentle race.
The patron saint in Asia is Japan.The whale fishing is a right of Japan. Japan should not stop the scientific research program on whales. Australian's ancestor is a lingerie thEft.@P@P@P@P@ it only has to boycott the beef from Oceania.!
@wubai565 I thought it was "research." Whaling is illegal. Just another example if the lies perpetrated by the Japanese government and it's whaling industry.
That is a typical and old propadanda made by enviromentalist groups and the media in anti-whaling Westnern countries including CNN and BBC. Many people in the U.S are not informed and demonize a friendly ally. Japan conducts research whaling under the Article VIII of ICRW (INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION FOR THE REGULATION OF WHALING). Please see the IWC website.
@wubai565 If it is research then please enlighten us with the knowledge that you have learned after killing 6000+ whales since whaling regulations were put in place. I haven't seen any papers published other then to say that whales eat fish. Since so many whales have been killed for "research" then tell us... What have your "studies" produced?
@SpeedandAngels81 Assuming that you are serious about fact finding and getting to the truth, without prejudice or preconceptions, which governing body would you go to further your research to answer that question yourself? You do not need to ask those questions to YouTube commentators, push comes to shove, so long as you are genuinely seeking objective answers.
@wubai565 This also from the IWC website when reviewing the permits for research whaling inside the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary.
"On many occasions, the Commission has (by majority vote) passed a Resolution urging Japan not to issue a permit for these catches."
That's just inside the Sanctuary. Outside the Sanctuary it would be ok and legal. So about 1/2 the "reseach" whaling being done by Japan has disputed legal status.
There is also a Resolution calling for an immediate return to commercial whaling. Why only mention the one that is convenient for you? Is it because you only know what you are told to know?
The Research is reviewed by IWC's Scientific Committee including over 100 of the top scientists on Cetaceans from around the world. There is no question to the scientific credibility of the JARPA program.
@APsupportsTerrorism Resolutions are non binding. That is absolutely true. You are also correct that there have been attempts to resume whaling. Actually I personally wouldn't have a problem with that. (nor would most conservationists)
There is just one hitch though. Japan has a formal objection to SOWS. That means if commercial whaling were ever resumed there would be no legal way to stop the Japanese from whaling directly inside the sanctuary. Obviously that isn't going to happen. EVER
The second point I want to make is this: While resolutions are non-binding and even participation in IWC is voluntary itself, IWC is the authority on whale regulation. So it is far from meaningless. Japan risks its reputation and credibility by going against IWC attempts at conservation and regulation. This is another reason the moratorium hasn't been lifted yet. The world has seen once already what happens when nations resist rules.
The third point I would like to make is this: It is my personal opinion that Japan has taken a completely backwards strategy on the whaling issue. Since Japan is one of the very few countries in the world still interested in commercial whaling, actually Japan should be the most stringent and out spoken in favor of whaling regulations. Japan has more to gain by keeping whale stocks high for future generations.
Thank you for wonderful animation. I think that the Democratic Party political power of Japan causes confusion. The politician is disregarding national defense. The whale fishing is a wonderful culture. Japan is mentally mature. Therefore, it is easy to be attacked from an immature nation. I support you.
I double checked and couldn't believe it. You were blocked! You are right to question me on it. I never would have done so on purpose. I apologize for any problem. I took off the block! Please post at my channel anytime. You are always welcomed there. :-)
Its 3 o'clok here now. I was worried I might have said something wrong to you..... But now I can sleep in peace. Thank you for your quick response. Tommorow I am going for a short trip and will not be able to work on Youtube. Good night.
So terribly sorry about that. In an effort to improve my Finnish, I've changed by youtube language from English to Finnish. So far, as you can see, I'm having a little difficulty.
And I blocked Propaganda Buster too and Viva had to reapprove me as a friend.
Hmmmm, now that I think about it. I had better check I didn't add Stalin and Watson to my friends list.
But I'm very happy to report the SS fanatics now fear my posts and have blocked me. I've been quoting Paul Watson and it's been extremely embarrassing for them. :-) :-)
You can say you have good friends. But Sea sheperd members do not. According to reports, Pete Bethune has been talking a lot to the police and it is not just Paul Watson but other members who will come under charges.
Good news about Peter the Lip! He obviously is feeling very let down by Watson and the SS group after Watson lied about not ordering Bethune to go on the Japanese ship.
Watson is a huge control freak. No one in SS dares to sneeze without his permission and direction.
You know that sloppy matabolic mess living in Korea calling himself boogerdanbear? He lied about where I live and then cowardly blocked me so I could not refute him. That is the mindset of the She Shepherd fanatics. They lie and then make sure you can't dispute them with evidence. It's very frustrating how they try to trick innocent people who do not understand the truth.
He also very rude and disrespectful to the great American PropagandaBuster.
I don't know. I'm the sweetest person you could ever meet.
Do you think it might be because I called him a fat slob? ;-P
Nah, I said that only after he made up I didn't live in Finland. I think it's because I give direct quotes from IWC and Paul Watson. I embarrass them and that's upsetting.
It is a bit..... But I know very few ant-whalers look at the IWC websites which says "The purpose of the Convention is to provide for the proper conservation of whale stocks and thus make possible the orderly development of the whaling industry".
I was joking about me being the sweetest etc...! I know I was getting on his nerves by posting IWC facts. lol
I really do wish the SS fans would read the history and purpose of the IWC. They would know how Japan is working voluntarily with the IWC's full approval. This information would ruin Watson's ability to fool the ignorant and raise money for his own aggrandizement.
wubai565 @ cloudberry121 >I wonder why SHe Shepherd supporters are always rude using vulgar words ↑ Not only this weird odd creepy Korean SS-pig but also GP and "independent" anti-whalers's Tech for debate is very dirty.
①They deny Profile often, what merit happens when saying "cloudberry121 is not Finnish"？
②Quickly and easily they Block people. I have never heard PB blocked someone - - but I heard an apparent Lie by cheap anti-whaler that "PB blocked me！" :))
Sea Shepherd fanatics often block when they are losing a debate. It protects them from the embarrassing truth.
I wish one would admit they know Japan is acting fairly, legally, and in accordance with it's history and culture. They can still admit this truth and be against whaling. What they hope to accomplish in lying about Japan is the right to attack their fishermen with violence. BAD!
I am very happy here in Finland. I don't think bunglingdangbear will be happy anywhere he goes. He is not welcomed to visit but the very nice Japanese friends of PB are all very welcomed to visit and Finns welcome Japanese tourists whole heartedly!
If you or wubai come to Helsinki, let me know. I'll make a nice dinner for you and you guys can meet my family. :-)
@cloudberry121 wow, are you stupid, the whale are doing to disappear if they keep going like that, but thats fine with you?? the great propagandabuster? Wow, shoot me you drug, i need it to see the life in such a good way cause seriuosly, we're running toward selfdestruction but because of retard like you, people still think everything is fine. God i hate people like you!
Thanks Jin. I have done that absolutely! The more I researched this topic the more I realized Paul Watson is a con artist who will use and even attack his own people if they get in his way. For example, if a SS follower of Watson lends him money and he never pays them back, they better not complain among the others or he will start a vicious blogging campaign against them.
You can find thousands other classic paintings. They are about 300 years old and many of them are not kept as nice though. It is really funny that those SS supporters never admit anything.
cloudberry121 ↑ I don't know exactly, but in Japan there are more than 20 temples and shrines where for Requiem to Eaten whales. Those spots can't be very new. For anti-whalers Whale became God 40 years ago suddenly. That's why(?) they didn't have time to establish Churchs for New God of this Cult :))
It really is their god. They won't admit it but all their actions point to it. Give the obsessives about 20 more years and there will be shrines to the eaten whales.
Hindus worship cows, and yet the US has no problem slaughtering millions of them. Buddhists respect animals and all life, yet the US has no problem slaughtering billions of them.
Why does the US want to stop people in Japan or anywhere else from fishing for Whale?
This is a regulated and restricted trade, why try to prevent it altogether? The "war on drugs" seems to have gone pretty well right?
FallujaFreak 5 days ago
what's the name of this song ? 名前の歌は何ですか？
burtoncaly 9 months ago
@burtoncaly
"I love you" by Yutaka Ozaki （尾崎豊）
He is a legendary singer who died very young at the top of his career.
wubai565 9 months ago
@wubai565 ありがとう thank you, Merci. :)
burtoncaly 9 months ago
whales are smart animals. they got big brains. they are smart enough 2 commit suicide. beached whales.better off if japan kills them.i dont want no rotten stinkin whale carcass on my beaches.GO TEAM JAPAN WHOOOOO!!!!!!!
ITSGLENN83 11 months ago
white Americans terminated native Americans.......and they said no whaling? white americans are hypocrite
mcblackjesus 11 months ago
@mcblackjesus We support all sustainable whaling.
wubai565 11 months ago
Japan has the most to gain of any country in conserving the oceans. Instead of fighting conservation with formal objections, Japan should be leading the way in restoring the health of ALL the fisheries in the ocean. Japans very food supply is in jeopardy! All this propaganda and counter propaganda, fighting, rudeness and for what? So Japan can ignore an attempt to restore at least one ocean of the world?
rosepetal108 1 year ago
Japan is Australia's largest export market so Japanese is taught to many Australian children in primary and secondary schools. Japan is my favourite country but whaling is a real issue for me. I support organized whaling which means not hunting the endangered species of whales, killing no more than about 600 whales and making sure that the hunting strategies work (making sure that the whales die in a more humane way).
McCaffreySnuggleCat 1 year ago
Some Western countries, especially Australia, use anti-whaling in much the same way as China uses Japan and US-bashing. It's much too difficult to fix their own problems at home. Take the Green Party in Australia, they're a laughing joke and utterly incompetent. But by focusing on the evil Japanese, they can point the finger for all their problems outside their borders.
Fox News in the US uses these same kind of fear tactics wrt Muslims, Socialism, etc.
Only crazy and stupid people fall for it.
APsupportsTerrorism 1 year ago
Prohibitionism based upon pseudo-religious cult-like worshiping of whales is not conservation nor regulation. Japan's position and actions are perfectly logical and legitimate. The moratorium states that more research is required, so Japan has undertaken said research.
It makes sense for people not subjected to insane propaganda about "the whales." Most governments recognize the anti-whaling position is extremist -- they're relieved the crazy people are focusing energy outside their own country
APsupportsTerrorism 1 year ago
"Japan risks its reputation and credibility by going against IWC attempts at conservation and regulation"
Preservationism based upon a pseudo-religious worshiping of whales is neither conservation nor regulation. Japan's position is logical and consistent with their aims. The moratorium demands research be done, so they are doing it.
Japan does not worship whales like a loud minority of Westerners. Japanese have also not been subjected to false propaganda -- "the whales" are not endangered.
APsupportsTerrorism 1 year ago
"Japan has a formal objection to SOWS. That means if commercial whaling were ever resumed there would be no legal way to stop the Japanese from whaling directly inside the sanctuary"
1. Why is it necessary to prevent all whaling in the place where whaling is most sustainable?
2. That's not what it means at all. Commercial whaling would be determined by RMP and RMS. All it means is that the sanctuary is bogus, but that's true regardless since it was passed in violation of Article V.
APsupportsTerrorism 1 year ago
This is an excellent video and disproves an old She Shepherd dishonesty that whaling is a new thing in Japan and not a tradition. This collage of ancient Japanese artwork proves the truth in history beautifully.
cloudberry121 1 year ago 2
@cloudberry121 wow, are you stupid, the whale are doing to disappear if they keep going like that, but thats fine with you?? the great propagandabuster? Wow, shoot me you drug, i need it to see the life in such a good way cause seriuosly, we're running toward selfdestruction but because of retard like you, people still think everything is fine. God i hate people like you!
grossegraine22 1 year ago
@grossegraine22
It's not my fault you're retarded and too stupid to realize you have eaten other animals without the risk of them goin extinct. Now go worship that fat pig Watson. Your human whale.
cloudberry121 1 year ago
It's funny how so many Americans are against whaling when I heard we ourselves do it. Europeans do it; many countries do. I'm a vegetarian so I don't eat meat, but I think the key here is to consume what's necessary. It's like logging where they cut down one large one and then plant a few more to grow in it place. Whale what they need but then leave them to grow. Japan is a beautiful country and I think it's wrong for Americans and such to judge a country a hundred times more civilized then US
ilovespirito15 1 year ago
This video is an insult. Traditional and historic whaling by Japan is nothing like what goes on today with industrialized whaling in the Southern Ocean. In fact, when the United States introduced commercial whaling to Japan (yes, that's right, it's western imperialism you're defending here) it was protested against by the traditional fishermen in coastal villages who had been the historic whalers - exactly because they felt it would promote indiscriminate killing of whales, which it does!
Pandonodrim 1 year ago
@Pandonodrim That's an interesting and long debate in itself. But even if we were to put that aside, there is nothing wrong with a sustainable consumption of natural resources and it is unfair to selectively pick on or even demonize those who you disagree with. Particularly so when the distribution of information is knowingly skewed to social-engineer specific views in the west. Even if one assumed for the sake of argument that your accusation was correct, it would still be hypocritical.
bryanbhu 1 year ago
@bryanbhu Other life forms are not a "natural resource" to be exploited at will by humans, this is arrogant and anthropocentric. And there is nothing "sustainable" about commercialized, industrialized whale hunting. Your points here sound good but they are not conducive with reality.
Skewed distribution of information in the west? Lol - yes, it is. I know quite a lot about that actually. But it is equally if not more skewed in Japan.
There's nothing hypocritical about the facts I presented.
Pandonodrim 1 year ago
@Pandonodrim Whaling is sustainable. Even the IWC would have given a go ahead and expired the moratorium by now were it not for politics. As for the skewed distribution of information, I'm glad you agree with me.
As for the "facts you presented", perhaps I'm not quite getting your point correctly. I'm under the impression that your point was to stop whaling BECAUSE the historical factor is not significant. The two doesn't link at all. You're just as welcome to whale under regulation.
bryanbhu 1 year ago
@bryanbhu The IWC is a commission set up to examine whaling, not whales themselves. It is not a conservation organization, and whaling is not sustainable.
I'm not sure what your asking. Many people have tried to justify whaling because it is "traditional for the Japanese people." I was simply refuting this claim. Not only that, but even if the whaling they were doing WAS traditional, doing something solely for the sake of tradition is not excusable - not when other factors oppose it.
Pandonodrim 1 year ago
@Pandonodrim That's just not incorrect on IWC. Satisfying the member states to resume whaling requires science which naturally involve whales themselves. I reiterate, without the subjective politics IWC would lift the moratorium as there's material evidence to support it. You chant that whaling is unsustainable like a fixed doctrine which it is not. As for tradition should it exist, it only adds to reasons, not subtract from it. Meat eating never required tradition as a pre-requisite.
bryanbhu 1 year ago
@bryanbhu You're completely off base, both in your understanding and representation of what I have said and of the reality of whaling, the IWC and sustainability.
Pandonodrim 1 year ago
@Pandonodrim My approach and stance on IWC is the standard objective methodology which is the most considered and virtuous approach when dealing with contested subjects of our society and world. When two views meet, my approach is the norm and surely you are aware of this in some form outside whaling. Deadlock occurs when you fail to observe this impartiality. This applies in all areas, not just limited to the debate on whaling.
bryanbhu 1 year ago
@bryanbhu That doesn't change the fact that the IWC was formed to govern the issue of commercial whaling, not the conservation and preservation of whales. It is a slight but important difference and affects the essence of the debate and your approach to it.
Pandonodrim 1 year ago
@Pandonodrim Then you are moving the goalpost. Any gathering and appointing a committee in contested areas is the common approach and IWC is no exception. Despite the politics, I still believe that IWC is important in finding a common ground and it's not fair to shove it when the outcome is not to your liking. You sound as though you have a philosophy which defies all common practices and this may not actually be a problem of whaling at all. What is your view on meat eating as a whole?
bryanbhu 1 year ago
@bryanbhu You are correct, but only if you accept that the sustainability issue is all that matters in regards to whaling. To truly look at the bigger picture you cannot rely on an organization like the IWC.
Meat eating in general I advocate against. At least against industrialized, corporate meat production. Remember that Sea Shepherd is a vegan organization.
Pandonodrim 1 year ago
@Pandonodrim Ahh ok, makes more sense then. My view on this has been more an extension of the general practice globally. I think your issue isn't so much to do with whaling but the overall social convention. You're exploiting the circumstances surrounding whaling to address your issues with the wider practice. You say the bigger picture, but in the big picture whaling is relatively insignificant compared to a more widely practiced social convention. I can understand your sentiment though.
bryanbhu 1 year ago
@bryanbhu Eh, not really. Whaling is hugely important - by that I mean the actual conservation of the lives of individual whales. My issue is not some great social agenda, more of a philosophy.
A question I have often asked and rarely received a straightforward answer to: what gives the Japanese (or anyone else) the "right" to kill whales, while at the same time denies people like me a "right" to defend and protect them? Why endorse slaughter and condemn the saving of life?
Pandonodrim 1 year ago
@Pandonodrim Oh you have as much right. It isn't an exclusivity, it is just a general convention. Whales are not exempt. I wasn't denying you the right, but rather pointing at the core issue. If you saved half the cows in your own country, I suspect you'd have achieved a profoundly greater fulfillment of the philosophy you speak of. Whaling is just a superset of the general practice and a very minor end of that scale. You seem to be barking up the wrong tree or avoiding the core issue.
bryanbhu 1 year ago
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Japanese should stop whaling immediately. Whales are noble beings.
SpainIngrid 1 year ago
I love whales and think Japan should kill less of them. However,it is the choise of the japanese people,not mine and if someone offered whale when i visit Japan,i would accept out of respect for the people and for the whale .
Hyak44 1 year ago 3
@Hyak44 Thank you for your comment. That is exactly the point I wanted to make and you are welcome to Japan. I myself don't like to see seals killed in Canada but it is the tradition in some parts of your country . I would try the meat to know their culture if I have a chance to visit the place.
wubai565 1 year ago 2
@wubai565 Yeah it's okay to respect tradition but, traditions have to be restrained when they but the biggest living organism on earth, or in earth cause it's in the water, in extinction danger, something has to be done. Chinese are doing the same thing with sharks. The disappearance of these two key species in the food chain will disturb the ocean's big time. Japan and all these countries are the pacific coastline and I can't wait to see it feel the repercussion of there barbarian overfishing.
grossegraine22 1 year ago
@wubai565 @wubai565 Yeah it's okay to respect tradition but, traditions have to be restrained when they but the biggest living organism on earth, or in earth cause it's in the water, in extinction danger, something has to be done. Chinese are doing the same thing with sharks. The disappearance of these two key species in the food chain will disturb the ocean's big time. Japan and all these countries are the pacific coastline and I can't wait to see it feel the repercussion of there overfishing
grossegraine22 1 year ago
「ザ・コーブ」は、シーシェパードと深いかかわりがあり、興行収入はシーシェパードの資金源になります。
主演のリックオバリー氏は、元シーシェパードのメンバーで、身分を隠すために脱退して太地町に潜入しました。映画では、あのポールワトソン代表も出演しています。このように、ザ・コーブは、シーシェパードの宣伝工作と資金獲得の一部です。
見てから判断すると言って見に行く輩もいますが、このような事実を知って言っているのでしょうか。同じ日本人として情けなさすぎます。興行収入は、シーシェパードの資金となることを忘れてはいけません。
どうしても見たければ、ユーチューブで見てください。
watch?v=CVtyvHkJbjs
wubai565 1 year ago 9
ホッキョクグマを絶滅から救うために捕鯨でとれた肉の一部を置いていくそうです。鯨より優先して保護する必要がある動物がいっぱいいるのに
arowana123da 1 year ago 7
I'm sorry. I am moving for work and the research. Japan is a wonderful country. Gaining power of China is dangerous. Japan should make it to the intimacy with India. Japan is a strong, beautiful, gentle race.
The patron saint in Asia is Japan.The whale fishing is a right of Japan. Japan should not stop the scientific research program on whales. Australian's ancestor is a lingerie thEft.@P@P@P@P@ it only has to boycott the beef from Oceania.!
JAPAN IS STRONG!!!
Devuelvo3doble3 1 year ago
@Devuelvo3doble3
Thank you for supporting the Japanese whaling.
wubai565 1 year ago
@wubai565 I thought it was "research." Whaling is illegal. Just another example if the lies perpetrated by the Japanese government and it's whaling industry.
SpeedandAngels81 1 year ago
@SpeedandAngels81
That is a typical and old propadanda made by enviromentalist groups and the media in anti-whaling Westnern countries including CNN and BBC. Many people in the U.S are not informed and demonize a friendly ally. Japan conducts research whaling under the Article VIII of ICRW (INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION FOR THE REGULATION OF WHALING). Please see the IWC website.
wubai565 1 year ago 5
@wubai565 If it is research then please enlighten us with the knowledge that you have learned after killing 6000+ whales since whaling regulations were put in place. I haven't seen any papers published other then to say that whales eat fish. Since so many whales have been killed for "research" then tell us... What have your "studies" produced?
SpeedandAngels81 1 year ago
@SpeedandAngels81 Assuming that you are serious about fact finding and getting to the truth, without prejudice or preconceptions, which governing body would you go to further your research to answer that question yourself? You do not need to ask those questions to YouTube commentators, push comes to shove, so long as you are genuinely seeking objective answers.
bryanbhu 1 year ago
@wubai565 This also from the IWC website when reviewing the permits for research whaling inside the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary.
"On many occasions, the Commission has (by majority vote) passed a Resolution urging Japan not to issue a permit for these catches."
That's just inside the Sanctuary. Outside the Sanctuary it would be ok and legal. So about 1/2 the "reseach" whaling being done by Japan has disputed legal status.
rosepetal108 1 year ago
@rosepetal108
Resolutions are non-binding and meaningless.
There is also a Resolution calling for an immediate return to commercial whaling. Why only mention the one that is convenient for you? Is it because you only know what you are told to know?
The Research is reviewed by IWC's Scientific Committee including over 100 of the top scientists on Cetaceans from around the world. There is no question to the scientific credibility of the JARPA program.
There is nothing illegal about JARPA.
APsupportsTerrorism 1 year ago
@APsupportsTerrorism Resolutions are non binding. That is absolutely true. You are also correct that there have been attempts to resume whaling. Actually I personally wouldn't have a problem with that. (nor would most conservationists)
There is just one hitch though. Japan has a formal objection to SOWS. That means if commercial whaling were ever resumed there would be no legal way to stop the Japanese from whaling directly inside the sanctuary. Obviously that isn't going to happen. EVER
rosepetal108 1 year ago
@APsupportsTerrorism Continued: Sorry but I ran out of room.
The second point I want to make is this: While resolutions are non-binding and even participation in IWC is voluntary itself, IWC is the authority on whale regulation. So it is far from meaningless. Japan risks its reputation and credibility by going against IWC attempts at conservation and regulation. This is another reason the moratorium hasn't been lifted yet. The world has seen once already what happens when nations resist rules.
rosepetal108 1 year ago
@APsupportsTerrorism Continued: Sorry again but YouTube allows so few words.
The third point I would like to make is this: It is my personal opinion that Japan has taken a completely backwards strategy on the whaling issue. Since Japan is one of the very few countries in the world still interested in commercial whaling, actually Japan should be the most stringent and out spoken in favor of whaling regulations. Japan has more to gain by keeping whale stocks high for future generations.
rosepetal108 1 year ago
wubai565さん、ぜひ抗議の投票したいです!
でも、どうやって?
番組ホームページで投票を受け付けてるんですか?
kandpalkunal03 1 year ago
@kandpalkunal03
番組のホームページで投票しています。番組の言い逃れのような目的でしょうか。それでも抗議の投票はしたいと思います。私のチャネルにアドレスがあります。
wubai565 1 year ago
シーシェパードはテレビ局アニマルプラネットでWhale Warsという番組を制作し、日本の捕鯨船へのテロ活動の資金にしたり、寄付金や支持者を募っています。現在、アニマルプラネットは、番組がシーシェパードのテロ活動につながっているかどうかの投票をしています。 抗議の投票お願いします。
wubai565 1 year ago
wubai565さん。そして、この動画を閲覧している皆さん。何度も削除したり投稿したり繰り返したりですみません。なかなか良い評価が書けなくて…。AUST-KORIAはやっぱり提訴は選挙が目的みたかったようです！鯨を盾にして最悪な人種ですね。さすが、鯨を無差別に虐殺してきた人種ですなぁ！あっ！そうだ通販で「鯨ベーコン」を買ったぞ！届いたらどんなメニューにして食べようかな。またamazonでもレビューを書いているのでよろしく！レビュァー名は「比売（ひめ）」で！
hime105440 1 year ago
@hime105440
コメントありがとうございます。提訴は政治的なものですから、これから紆余曲折があるのではないか、と思います。日本は悪いことは全く無いですが、政府や関係者は万全を期して、正々堂々と望んでほしいと思います。わたしたちは、鯨を食べて応援しましょう。
wubai565 1 year ago
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hime105440 1 year ago 2
I support japonese whaling . Wholeheartedly
Thank you for thisbeautiful video
annSans1 1 year ago 3
@annSans1
Thank you for supporting the Japanese whaling. It has a long tradition and we still cannot lose it.
wubai565 1 year ago
クジラ食べたい
evokuro04 1 year ago 3
捕鯨文化は本当にすばらしいと思いました。
国際的に日本だけが悪者扱いされますが、
これは明らかに人種差別だと思います。
でも多くの日本人はあまり気にしていない
様に見えます。もっと多くの日本人に
捕鯨文化のすばらしさを知って欲しいし、
これからも守り続けて行かなければなりま
せん。
ytytyt666 1 year ago 19
Thank you for wonderful animation. I think that the Democratic Party political power of Japan causes confusion. The politician is disregarding national defense. The whale fishing is a wonderful culture. Japan is mentally mature. Therefore, it is easy to be attacked from an immature nation. I support you.
Devuelvo3doble3 1 year ago 2
@Devuelvo3doble3
Thank you for your support. Are you from Egypt ?
wubai565 1 year ago
The meat looks so oishi! lol
TAC412 1 year ago 4
@TAC412
The whale meat is very ho-sek !
wubai565 1 year ago
To know if a person is good or bad, I don't listen to their cheap talk. I look at their actions. What do they produce?
Watson and the SS produces hate, anger, lies, distrust, disrespect, broken ships, bigotry and xenophobia.
Japan produces serious scientific research, respectful conpliance to the rules of the IWC, the practice of good sustainable whaling and food.
cloudberry121 1 year ago
@cloudberry121
Thank you for your comment.
wubai565 1 year ago
@cloudberry121
I wanted to say thank you in you channel but I could not. Did yo block me ? It is up to you but I don't think you need to....
wubai565 1 year ago
@wubai565
I double checked and couldn't believe it. You were blocked! You are right to question me on it. I never would have done so on purpose. I apologize for any problem. I took off the block! Please post at my channel anytime. You are always welcomed there. :-)
cloudberry121 1 year ago
@cloudberry121
Its 3 o'clok here now. I was worried I might have said something wrong to you..... But now I can sleep in peace. Thank you for your quick response. Tommorow I am going for a short trip and will not be able to work on Youtube. Good night.
wubai565 1 year ago
@wubai565
So terribly sorry about that. In an effort to improve my Finnish, I've changed by youtube language from English to Finnish. So far, as you can see, I'm having a little difficulty.
cloudberry121 1 year ago
@cloudberry121
Please never mind. I suspect it is a software bug problem of Youtube.
wubai565 1 year ago
@wubai565
And I blocked Propaganda Buster too and Viva had to reapprove me as a friend.
Hmmmm, now that I think about it. I had better check I didn't add Stalin and Watson to my friends list.
But I'm very happy to report the SS fanatics now fear my posts and have blocked me. I've been quoting Paul Watson and it's been extremely embarrassing for them. :-) :-)
cloudberry121 1 year ago
@cloudberry121
You can say you have good friends. But Sea sheperd members do not. According to reports, Pete Bethune has been talking a lot to the police and it is not just Paul Watson but other members who will come under charges.
wubai565 1 year ago
@wubai565
Good news about Peter the Lip! He obviously is feeling very let down by Watson and the SS group after Watson lied about not ordering Bethune to go on the Japanese ship.
Watson is a huge control freak. No one in SS dares to sneeze without his permission and direction.
cloudberry121 1 year ago 3
You know that sloppy matabolic mess living in Korea calling himself boogerdanbear? He lied about where I live and then cowardly blocked me so I could not refute him. That is the mindset of the She Shepherd fanatics. They lie and then make sure you can't dispute them with evidence. It's very frustrating how they try to trick innocent people who do not understand the truth.
He also very rude and disrespectful to the great American PropagandaBuster.
cloudberry121 1 year ago 15
@cloudberry121
You mean the fat guy ? I wonder why SHe Shepherd supporters are always rude using vulgar words to attack you ?
wubai565 1 year ago 2
@wubai565
I don't know. I'm the sweetest person you could ever meet.
Do you think it might be because I called him a fat slob? ;-P
Nah, I said that only after he made up I didn't live in Finland. I think it's because I give direct quotes from IWC and Paul Watson. I embarrass them and that's upsetting.
cloudberry121 1 year ago
@cloudberry121
It is a bit..... But I know very few ant-whalers look at the IWC websites which says "The purpose of the Convention is to provide for the proper conservation of whale stocks and thus make possible the orderly development of the whaling industry".
wubai565 1 year ago
@wubai565
I was joking about me being the sweetest etc...! I know I was getting on his nerves by posting IWC facts. lol
I really do wish the SS fans would read the history and purpose of the IWC. They would know how Japan is working voluntarily with the IWC's full approval. This information would ruin Watson's ability to fool the ignorant and raise money for his own aggrandizement.
cloudberry121 1 year ago
wubai565 @ cloudberry121 >I wonder why SHe Shepherd supporters are always rude using vulgar words ↑ Not only this weird odd creepy Korean SS-pig but also GP and "independent" anti-whalers's Tech for debate is very dirty.
①They deny Profile often, what merit happens when saying "cloudberry121 is not Finnish"？
②Quickly and easily they Block people. I have never heard PB blocked someone - - but I heard an apparent Lie by cheap anti-whaler that "PB blocked me！" :))
VivaEcoCultBusiness 1 year ago 6
@VivaEcoCultBusiness
Sea Shepherd fanatics often block when they are losing a debate. It protects them from the embarrassing truth.
I wish one would admit they know Japan is acting fairly, legally, and in accordance with it's history and culture. They can still admit this truth and be against whaling. What they hope to accomplish in lying about Japan is the right to attack their fishermen with violence. BAD!
cloudberry121 1 year ago
@VivaEcoCultBusiness
I am very happy here in Finland. I don't think bunglingdangbear will be happy anywhere he goes. He is not welcomed to visit but the very nice Japanese friends of PB are all very welcomed to visit and Finns welcome Japanese tourists whole heartedly!
If you or wubai come to Helsinki, let me know. I'll make a nice dinner for you and you guys can meet my family. :-)
cloudberry121 1 year ago
@VivaEcoCultBusiness
Welcome ! I am honored to have you here because you are a brave fighter against eco-terrorist supporters.
wubai565 1 year ago
@cloudberry121 wow, are you stupid, the whale are doing to disappear if they keep going like that, but thats fine with you?? the great propagandabuster? Wow, shoot me you drug, i need it to see the life in such a good way cause seriuosly, we're running toward selfdestruction but because of retard like you, people still think everything is fine. God i hate people like you!
grossegraine22 1 year ago
@cloudberry121
just don't forget something, whatever is the sea shepherd's claim, just do your research to try to debunk their claims.
jin54363 6 months ago 2
@jin54363
Thanks Jin. I have done that absolutely! The more I researched this topic the more I realized Paul Watson is a con artist who will use and even attack his own people if they get in his way. For example, if a SS follower of Watson lends him money and he never pays them back, they better not complain among the others or he will start a vicious blogging campaign against them.
It's fun watching them destroy their own.
cloudberry121 5 months ago
@cloudberry121
haha yes, their greediness will bring them to self destruction
jin54363 5 months ago
ｱﾒ公やｵｰﾗﾘ公と国交断絶してでも捕鯨文化を守るぞ。
ssknsdkj 1 year ago
I debated a guy, who teaches English in Japan, insisting on his vlog these antique paintings of Japanese whaling didn't exist.
I showed him this video and he refused to respond. Sea Shepherd's fanatic fans never admit to being wrong. :-(
cloudberry121 1 year ago
@cloudberry121
You can find thousands other classic paintings. They are about 300 years old and many of them are not kept as nice though. It is really funny that those SS supporters never admit anything.
wubai565 1 year ago 2
@wubai565
Thank you for the information, wubai. Your video helps unmask one of She Shepherd's many lies.
cloudberry121 1 year ago 2
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cloudberry121 ↑ I don't know exactly, but in Japan there are more than 20 temples and shrines where for Requiem to Eaten whales. Those spots can't be very new. For anti-whalers Whale became God 40 years ago suddenly. That's why(?) they didn't have time to establish Churchs for New God of this Cult :))
VivaEcoCultBusiness 1 year ago 2
@VivaEcoCultBusiness
It really is their god. They won't admit it but all their actions point to it. Give the obsessives about 20 more years and there will be shrines to the eaten whales.
cloudberry121 1 year ago
I like the artwork, its very pretty.
neoxigbar 1 year ago 2
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hime105440 1 year ago
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i dont get this video...nobody denies whaling is japanese culture...but scientific whaling in a whale sanctuary using factory ships is not!
cultural whaling in own waters...no problem!
hunting in a whale sanctuary on the other side of the world using factory ships and calling it science...of course people are going to oppose it!
sEiGoSaYgO 1 year ago
@AustralianAreRacists
子供の頃に自分で悟らないと難しいでしょうね。その意味で、親や学校の教育がとても大切だと思います。生き物の命を犠牲にして生かしてもらっていることを知らないのは罪です。鯨肉は量が限られていますが、学校給食を優先してほしいと思っています。
wubai565 1 year ago
@AustralianAreRacists
日本でもクジラを食べたことが無い若い人の中には、同じような気持ちを持っている人がいますね。しかし、日本には大切にしたい歴史と文化があります。少しでもわかってほしいと思い、この動画を作りました。
wubai565 1 year ago
Good video. I like the many photos of dishes.
tsjoencinema 1 year ago 2
@tsjoencinema
Thank youi. They are Japanese traditional dishes except the humberger.
wubai565 1 year ago
@dtyufuygiug
大賛成です。最近は一部の小学校の給食に復活しました。大切な文化を守っていきましょう。
wubai565 1 year ago
沈没した例の妨害船にはボーガンが積み込まれて、実際に調査船に向けて発射されました。
銛で殺すのは残酷、と言いながら、日本人には殺傷能力が十分ある弓を放つ連中です。
この点をアピールしない手はありません。
dtyufuygiug 1 year ago
Classic!
bryanbhu 1 year ago
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jtbrothersolo 1 year ago
私は反捕鯨のテロ行為には反対です。くたばれワトソン！！ハゲ船長実刑！！ 外国から日本の捕鯨文化をとやかく言われたくはないよね## ただ資源保全には十分手を尽くす必要はあります。
12345MINO 1 year ago
ああ・・・本当に繊細で綺麗。
江戸操り人形の糸も鯨の髭でしたね、確か。伝統人形の中に鯨の魂が生きています
捕鯨と、生きた鯨さんを愛することとは
今後も手を取り合って共存してゆけるはずの問題だと思ってます。
plala7557 1 year ago
Very beautiful paintings!
They are also a reminder to the Eco-terrorists they are dishonest about whaling and eating of whales not being part of the Japanese culture.
Great video, Wubai565!
cloudberry121 1 year ago 2
Thank you.
wubai565 1 year ago
i've heard that japanese people bury the whale corpse into a cemetery and pray to them showing respect
HappyBuddha100 1 year ago
@HappyBuddha100
Thank you for your comment.
That's right.
We Japanese basically value all animal.
Pls. watch the following video.
watch?v=Up9X07S3Tig
from Japan with love.
kakkun39 1 year ago
i've watched that video, haha very nice, i really aprecciate your culture, amaterasu bless you
HappyBuddha100 1 year ago 2