what quran says dont concern u , u should focus on your byble. it is a book of pornography, and vatican is full of nude statues.precisely cristanity is an immoral religion i salute those artists who carved the bubbly buutocks of those funny statues u fat foolish sucker
Haters qoute 4:34-35 and use it to justify their claim that "Islam sanctions the beating of women". What you don't realise (because you can't be bothered to read the whole damn sentence) is that this verse is mentioned within the context of adultery and/or betrayal. Also a few of the Prophet's wives for close family members of his enemies. Such verses were directed at and pescribed for the Prophet as a way for him to secure Islam during it's early stages when it was at risk from being killed off
Muhammad "pushing" Aisha is not quite how Aisha felt, since she said it caused her to have pain. Putting hands on one's wife in a manner that gives them pain or suffering has no theological significance,especially since one's wife holds one of the most significant relationships with man
This would be a good place for Muslims to look at "what came before" and treat your wives as Ephesians 5:25-33 instructs. Compromising goes a lot further than threatening, ignoring, pushing or not having sex
You did read the article I posted that talks about the Hadiths you are referring to when it explains the theological and cultural significance of that action right?
Culturally, I'm not familiar with any people of the Arabian peninsula, prior to Muhammad, that pushed or struck people's chests to religiously reprove them. It's a part of Muslim culture I suppose, but it is never explained as to why Allah commands an ambiguous action to be taken against a woman, being that the solution to a rebellious wife lies in her own will and not her husband's. No matter how much a man touches a woman it is ultimately up to her to react or respond.
What Muslim culture are you talking about? Muslim culture is part of 1.7 billion people from all around the globe. Do you mean ARAB culture? If so then the point you would remember from my video is that the Prophet did this action of striking chests to not JUST Aisha but also his MALE companions as well. This theological concept is not JUST with regards to marriage but something the Prophet did to remind people of a negative action or thought they were having. Read the article I posted.
And if the judgment of whether one's wife is transgressing or being disobedient lies in the hands of her husband's fear (as the Quran gives the decision to the husband) then it becomes intrinsically irresponsible on the part of "Allah", since he gave the woman's judgment over to a sinner's (the husband's) fear, instead of the fear of God Himself.
Disobedience to a man, based off of his fear, is a questionably wicked method of improving a relationship of oneness, which is marriage.
The Quran makes it out to be a hierarchy of control, whereby the woman has no control over the decisions of her husband's judgment on her, except that in which she knows would scare him (i.e. bring fear of transgression/disobedience); and on top of that, if she accomplished to scare him, then she must deal with things that do not help the situation--but instead exposes even further the control the husband has
It's like the relationship between humans and animals, instead of a man and his wife.
You obviously missed the verses of the Quran and Hadiths that speak about the kindness and love husbands are to give to their wives. If you think that a marriage in Islam is based on FEAR, then you missed something.
But if striking a woman does have some type of supernatural effect, like Muhammad reportedly had when striking his hand against people's chests, then this would be the theological significance--but if by striking them drives out evil influence, then why don't the muslims just say this instead of trying to reconcile it in the minds of non-muslims through candy-coating it or diverting it away from this practice that came from Muhammad?
I think that it would be a service to Islam for someone to explain the verse using this religious implication (of driving away evil influence), rather than differing from the origin and manner of the practice, as I have seen imams using this method when trying to handle a possessed person.
Even though, this would contradict Muhammad's instruction of using a tool [miswak, etc.] to hit your wife. The inconsistency seems to just expose it for what it is--ignorant and senseless abuse to women.
Well actually the reason this video was difficult for you was the fact you took TWO different subjects regarding women and husbands and tossed them together into one pot as it were. If you watch my video AGAIN I deal with the Quranic verses separate from the Hadiths as they SHOULD be looked at. As I said, and the article I posted reflect, the actions of driving away evil was NOT the same subject as the use of miswack as reflected in the Quran. Bringing them together is an abuse of text .
You know, now that I am reminded of your old video that you put down because Aim786 and myself refuted so badly, I am reminded of the fact that your ignorance regarding Islam is MASSIVE, and not only does your comment here but also I checked your channel, and you appear to be nothing more then a run-of-the-mill hater, so therefore I have decided to block you, because I do think any conversation we might engage in would be waste of time. Peace and have a nice life.
What candy-coating, this is the view with regards to this hadith that the top level of scholarship views as far as that Hadith goes. There is no candy coating, this is scholarly and theological FACT.
Jazakallah khair br.Collins for your video! This is one of the videos that is long overdue... :-)
By the way, I just wanted to make a comment that Muslims can also fall into the fallacy of "partial knowledge" regarding the understanding of Islamic teaching. There are people who do not have comprehensive knowledge on ahadith who make fatwas based on only few selective ahadith without knowing other ahadith that explain more, or without understanding the core teaching of Islam. Wallahu'alam.
For Psychlopes1976, you are a very lucky person to be living in Jordan, as that is one of the only countries in the middle east that is moderate and does not discriminate on your freedom of thought. However, here in Egypt its not like Jordan, just a couple of weeks ago a top professor from Al Azhar university (home base in islamic world) announced in a newspaper that a former muslim who was trying to defend islam and say that its a tolerant religion, should be killed because he was an apostate.
Agian you say "scholars" - which one are you talking about and whats his proof of saying that, why did he say that? - Furthermore if you dont know Egypt is also seen as a moderate country - you know why beacsue it backs US intrests thats why and thats how this "modertae" "radical" labels are put - nothing to do with anything else you were hoping for .
Study the facts man the truth is there. There is over 100 muslim scholars and over 60 non muslim scholars who not only studied the quran but where part of home base (the muslim scholars of course) Al Azhar university in Egypt and they do witness as well as agree that there is a stealth Jihad attempt and that lying to advance this is no problem, because after all its serving allah
What kind of ideology is this?
this has nothing to do with hate or muslim people!
If you must bring forth examples of an "ideology" which permits, or perhaps it's more appropriate of me to say: practices the art of deception, why have you not stated the innumerous examples of Christian missionaries embarking on operations in poor underdeveloped MUSLIM countries, in which various forms of "lying" are utilized against uninformed village inhabitants including children. Would you like for me to cite some articles?
I do appreciate the assumption you made by saying that "it really does amaze me how people just blindly follow this misconception without actually studying the real facts." But this statement still does not deter attention to the issue.
The fact is, muslim sheiks say this and justify their words by referring to the koran. Lying is there and you guys just admitted it, trying to tell me, that no thats wrong and its something that another branch of islam prescribes, does not let you off scott free
How is that statement detering attention to the issue? I really do not understand your logic here. If anything, it ENCOURAGES INVESTIGATION into the issue. Perhaps instead of making claims you can bring forth authentic citations and refrences? Note: My earlier capitlization of the two words was not intended to be offensive, merely to emphasize a point.
I think I can help you out there. Taqiyya is not lying to advance your religion lol. Taqiyya is what the Prophet Muhammad PBUH allowed for the early muslims - to hide the fact that they are muslims, because those that were 'caught' were tortured. This does not hold now because no one kills you if you say you're a muslim. I'm not sure they were allowed to lie but it was primarily to hide their muslim beliefs in the early days of Islam before muslims could defend themselves.
@falasteeniyyeh> I acknowledge your point of view, however, it is unwise to take whats being said from you as truth right away without examining the evidence to see if its true or not. I will look more into it from historical sources.
No, that is not true , the concept you are referring to is something that Shia's invented "Takiyyah" a Muslim is not allowed to lie to further a cause, even if it was Islam itself, the only "exemption" - not permission - was given to those who for instance denounced Islam after being tortured or their families threatened, etc. Meaning that God doesn't punish those who were "compelled" to do or say anything they don't believe in. And that is not the same as "allowing" a Muslim to lie
It really amazes me that you're living in an Islamic state (Egypt) and still believe such blatant lie. Only Shia's practice Takiyyah, and that is one of the many reasons why Sunni Muslims condemn their teachings. I'm a Muslim from Jordan, all the people around me are Muslims, and I have many christian friends; never once have I heard any Muslim tell me. preach or even whisper that it's ok to lie for any reason what so ever. Lying is utterly detested in Islam, whether to a muslim or a non-muslim
I even made a video explaining the subject of lying in Islam the video is called Hater Exposed 4. I agree with psychlopes1976, it really does amaze me how people just blindly follow this misconception without actually studying the real facts.
IT is just this ongoing myth they have created for themselves that women in Islam are suffering. They take these text which I have mentioned and also the abuse seen by the Taliban and other places, and think that somehow represents Islam. It really boils down to that.
one more thing ozzy in other videos you countered the accusation that islam was spread by the sword I was wondering if you could recomend books that actually portray how Islam spread without the sword thanks.....
Non Muslims going around quoting hadith are very dangerous. They are totally ignorant, yet there may be Muslims who read what they say and become convinced of something that is not true because of these ignorant people. It may even be subtle. It might confirm prejudices of a person if he lives in a male dominated society. So please ignorant non Muslims, convince Muslims that they can treat women badly, these things may have consequences in the lives of real women.
i am a non muslim but i desire to learn about islam and in particular the hadiths. how can i study the hadiths for myself in an accurate manner so i can learn what the hadiths are saying...??
I would recommend reading the Hadiths and also paying attention to the commentary done by scholars regarding the hadiths. Use Muslim websites that discuss the hadiths much like the one whos links u can see in the more info area of this video. IF you have any questions just let me know. Peace
my question to u is then how are islamic scholars statements about the hadiths different than the christian scholars statements about the gospels in light of recent work by ehrman and others showing the gospels were actually annoymous and the other promblems various nt books have?
Well for starters many of the earliest scholars knew people who were Companions of the Prophet or in some cases were the Companions themselves. Islam has a rich history of Tradition that is very solid and based on the Quran and Sunnah(way) of the Prophet Muhammad pbuh. If you would like to discuss this in more detail I use the website Stickam if you are interested we could talk more there. Peace.
possibly im not interested in debatethough. that does make sense and the gospels were branded matthew mark luke and john because of 2nd century church fathers not because of a rich history...
Oh no I don't mean debate just talk, I explain myself verbally and it would be a better place to just talk about whatever and in a more.....fuller way? Beyond these text boxes lol. I agree with Ehrman and the majority of most scholars who say that the Gospels were labeled as such much later then their actual writings. Just let me know if Stickam sounds good to you, we can just discuss Christianity and Islam, whatever you want.
sure thing i will let you know. can i ask you did your catholic family give you a lot of crap when you decided to convert? was it a hard time for you?
My mom is fully supportive of me, my Dad is as well but he is still getting use to the idea of me being Muslim. With regards to HIS side of the family I don't know if they know, if they do they aren't talking. My mom's side of the family is cool with it as well. But yeah for sure just let me know and like I said if you have any questions let me know. Peace.
oh well thats good i dont know how my parents would react.. anyways sorry if its 2 personal but whats the islamic perspective on dating and courtship before marriage
No no problem at all, I would like to talk to you on Stickam though if you wouldn't mind, just easier that way lol. Islam isn't very big on dating, courtship in most cultural is acceptable before marriage, however the way the west views dating, I think most Muslims would not agree with it.
okay if i have time i will get on stickcam im trying to get a summer job b4 i go back 2 school and i think u answered most of my questions n e way but i will defintely hit u up if i have any more.. thanks..
The reason for Muhammad allowing Beating is bcoz way he thought about Women. There is a legitimate reason to Belief Muhammad did not gave proper respect to Women in Islam;
"Muslim Book 004, Number 1034:
Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: A woman, an Ass and a dog disrupt the prayer, but something like the back of a saddle guards against that"
Mind I guess you didn't listen to my video, nor did you bother to look at the links I provided that refute the abuse of Hadiths, kinda like the one you just posted. Funny because in the article I cited it refutes the Hadith you just posted, thanks for proving my point.
I am sorry, abusing Haditsh a vast subject, nevertheless where did these article refute Hadith which I mentioned ?
You gave links of so called Islamic scholars who after the demise of Muhammad trying to give their best to save Muslim actions during the time of Muhammad ? You have conflicting data in Hand and one can only see with amazement the situation Muslim are facing.
Okay I'll spell it out for you, go to the MORE INFO area on this video it is the link below which are I labeled as "Link to the article I mentioned in the video" regarding Hadiths. Once you click on that I believe it is the third refuted Hadith. Enjoy. We are in no situation amazing or otherwise the Hadiths are very clear on the beliefs of the Prophet it just takes some haters to twist some things around as I have proven in this video.
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You don't need to "spell it out" to me rather just look the description itself! What they did, they brought "another Hadith" to refute it !
You failed to notice like other guys that you as Muslim simply can not refute sayings of Muhammad by quoting His other words, You agreed that these were the words of Muhammad, the only way you found it to show other words which contradicts His first !!
Muhammad easily said it that All if pass from a praying person annual its prayers, He used "Women" ..
The article clearly states that other Hadiths in the collections state that if ANYONE passes in front of a person it can annal prayer. The hadiths in the article show that even if a MAN passes in front it is an issue, so now Mind im sorry this Hadith is not JUST addressing WOMEN. He is saying that if is a sin to pass in front of a Muslim when he is praying, regardless of gender. He is also referring to anything or anyone that could cause distraction during prayer. This is what the article says.
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Donkeys and Dogs and in some Hadiths Black Dogs, and He even called Black Dogs as Shaitans ! very good.
When some one quote you the words of Muhammad, and if you quote another words of Muhammad then the obvious question arise, was He keep changing His own words, its seems like Damage control, the words are clear from hadiths, you could have said, these are Fabricated Haditshs, it may helped you, but quoting other Hadiths, only legitimate the claims of Muhammad opponents.
Your going off topic now Mind, I am not interested in arguing with you on these random little topics you bring up just to start an argument which I know you love so much. Stick to the topic at hand, the point is the article has the answers to your allegations if you choose to ignore them that is of course your choice. If you do not agree leave it at that and move on.
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My focus is still on the Hadiths which I quoted, and Yes I think Muhammad made both claims and Yes I do belief that Muslims can not refute Muhammad by quoting His other words. !
If u make a Claim 'A' and if challenged you on this Claim, you make another claim 'B' and say look accept my claim 'B', I don't deny my first claim 'A' but accept my claim 'B', what would world call you ?
However, like we said earlier to each other we can have our opinions, & I wish you all the best in responding.
As the scholars of Islam have it with the hadits by Aisha explaining the situation along with looking at all the Hadiths in question the point is the Prophet made it clear that one should take care not to have anything or anyone pass in front of one who is praying because it may distract the one praying. This is regardless of gender as I have said based on the Hadiths quoted in the article Furthermore my commentary on the Sahih Hadiths found in Sunan Abu Dawud regarding this topic is cont.
cont. the following. Some scholars and companions hold that if a man, women, donkey, or dog passes in front of a person praying, the prayer is voided. Another opinion is that none of those things void the prayer. The majority view based on Sunan Abu Dawud Hadith#718-719, is that it is not the physical persons or beings that interrupt the prayer but the possible distraction because of something passing in front of the person praying. That is the majority view as cited in Awn al Ma'bud 1. 262.
It does not help anyone who hates Islam nor does it help you Mind, because the hadiths of Aisha as seen IN THE ARTICLE help explain what the Prophet was saying in the Hadiths. He was very clear that NO ONE, regardless of gender should pass in front of someone when praying. That is a fact.
I think that one big problem stems from the fact that most people who bring up this verse fail to read the very next verse. This is a case in which going back to the Arabic really helps. While fast, you did a good refutation as expected.
well done! thats good you included the hadith about the woman supposedly getting beat, so many ppl use that!
Keep it up!
malika810 1 year ago
well done!
malika810 1 year ago
masha'Allah for this vid!
kingamin77 1 year ago
what quran says dont concern u , u should focus on your byble. it is a book of pornography, and vatican is full of nude statues.precisely cristanity is an immoral religion i salute those artists who carved the bubbly buutocks of those funny statues u fat foolish sucker
AMUSHT 2 years ago
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Ubah007 2 years ago
Haters qoute 4:34-35 and use it to justify their claim that "Islam sanctions the beating of women". What you don't realise (because you can't be bothered to read the whole damn sentence) is that this verse is mentioned within the context of adultery and/or betrayal. Also a few of the Prophet's wives for close family members of his enemies. Such verses were directed at and pescribed for the Prophet as a way for him to secure Islam during it's early stages when it was at risk from being killed off
cosmicallyWonderful 2 years ago 3
Muhammad "pushing" Aisha is not quite how Aisha felt, since she said it caused her to have pain. Putting hands on one's wife in a manner that gives them pain or suffering has no theological significance,especially since one's wife holds one of the most significant relationships with man
This would be a good place for Muslims to look at "what came before" and treat your wives as Ephesians 5:25-33 instructs. Compromising goes a lot further than threatening, ignoring, pushing or not having sex
Shaxarel 2 years ago
You did read the article I posted that talks about the Hadiths you are referring to when it explains the theological and cultural significance of that action right?
ozzycda 2 years ago
Culturally, I'm not familiar with any people of the Arabian peninsula, prior to Muhammad, that pushed or struck people's chests to religiously reprove them. It's a part of Muslim culture I suppose, but it is never explained as to why Allah commands an ambiguous action to be taken against a woman, being that the solution to a rebellious wife lies in her own will and not her husband's. No matter how much a man touches a woman it is ultimately up to her to react or respond.
Shaxarel 2 years ago
What Muslim culture are you talking about? Muslim culture is part of 1.7 billion people from all around the globe. Do you mean ARAB culture? If so then the point you would remember from my video is that the Prophet did this action of striking chests to not JUST Aisha but also his MALE companions as well. This theological concept is not JUST with regards to marriage but something the Prophet did to remind people of a negative action or thought they were having. Read the article I posted.
ozzycda 2 years ago
And if the judgment of whether one's wife is transgressing or being disobedient lies in the hands of her husband's fear (as the Quran gives the decision to the husband) then it becomes intrinsically irresponsible on the part of "Allah", since he gave the woman's judgment over to a sinner's (the husband's) fear, instead of the fear of God Himself.
Disobedience to a man, based off of his fear, is a questionably wicked method of improving a relationship of oneness, which is marriage.
Shaxarel 2 years ago
Wrong actually the Shria Fiqh books are clear as to what the actions are that the women would be taking for the above actions to be taken.
ozzycda 2 years ago
The Quran makes it out to be a hierarchy of control, whereby the woman has no control over the decisions of her husband's judgment on her, except that in which she knows would scare him (i.e. bring fear of transgression/disobedience); and on top of that, if she accomplished to scare him, then she must deal with things that do not help the situation--but instead exposes even further the control the husband has
It's like the relationship between humans and animals, instead of a man and his wife.
Shaxarel 2 years ago
You obviously missed the verses of the Quran and Hadiths that speak about the kindness and love husbands are to give to their wives. If you think that a marriage in Islam is based on FEAR, then you missed something.
ozzycda 2 years ago
But if striking a woman does have some type of supernatural effect, like Muhammad reportedly had when striking his hand against people's chests, then this would be the theological significance--but if by striking them drives out evil influence, then why don't the muslims just say this instead of trying to reconcile it in the minds of non-muslims through candy-coating it or diverting it away from this practice that came from Muhammad?
Shaxarel 2 years ago
I think that it would be a service to Islam for someone to explain the verse using this religious implication (of driving away evil influence), rather than differing from the origin and manner of the practice, as I have seen imams using this method when trying to handle a possessed person.
Even though, this would contradict Muhammad's instruction of using a tool [miswak, etc.] to hit your wife. The inconsistency seems to just expose it for what it is--ignorant and senseless abuse to women.
Shaxarel 2 years ago
Well actually the reason this video was difficult for you was the fact you took TWO different subjects regarding women and husbands and tossed them together into one pot as it were. If you watch my video AGAIN I deal with the Quranic verses separate from the Hadiths as they SHOULD be looked at. As I said, and the article I posted reflect, the actions of driving away evil was NOT the same subject as the use of miswack as reflected in the Quran. Bringing them together is an abuse of text .
ozzycda 2 years ago
You know, now that I am reminded of your old video that you put down because Aim786 and myself refuted so badly, I am reminded of the fact that your ignorance regarding Islam is MASSIVE, and not only does your comment here but also I checked your channel, and you appear to be nothing more then a run-of-the-mill hater, so therefore I have decided to block you, because I do think any conversation we might engage in would be waste of time. Peace and have a nice life.
ozzycda 2 years ago
What candy-coating, this is the view with regards to this hadith that the top level of scholarship views as far as that Hadith goes. There is no candy coating, this is scholarly and theological FACT.
ozzycda 2 years ago
Jazakallah khair br.Collins for your video! This is one of the videos that is long overdue... :-)
By the way, I just wanted to make a comment that Muslims can also fall into the fallacy of "partial knowledge" regarding the understanding of Islamic teaching. There are people who do not have comprehensive knowledge on ahadith who make fatwas based on only few selective ahadith without knowing other ahadith that explain more, or without understanding the core teaching of Islam. Wallahu'alam.
prober0101 2 years ago
For Psychlopes1976, you are a very lucky person to be living in Jordan, as that is one of the only countries in the middle east that is moderate and does not discriminate on your freedom of thought. However, here in Egypt its not like Jordan, just a couple of weeks ago a top professor from Al Azhar university (home base in islamic world) announced in a newspaper that a former muslim who was trying to defend islam and say that its a tolerant religion, should be killed because he was an apostate.
Knowyourrights1 2 years ago
Agian you say "scholars" - which one are you talking about and whats his proof of saying that, why did he say that? - Furthermore if you dont know Egypt is also seen as a moderate country - you know why beacsue it backs US intrests thats why and thats how this "modertae" "radical" labels are put - nothing to do with anything else you were hoping for .
zafthedon 2 years ago
Know_ur_ri8ts, show us ur proof if you are truthful, where in the qur'an does it say that you can lie to advance your religion.
greykode 2 years ago
Study the facts man the truth is there. There is over 100 muslim scholars and over 60 non muslim scholars who not only studied the quran but where part of home base (the muslim scholars of course) Al Azhar university in Egypt and they do witness as well as agree that there is a stealth Jihad attempt and that lying to advance this is no problem, because after all its serving allah
What kind of ideology is this?
this has nothing to do with hate or muslim people!
it has to do with ideology
Knowyourrights1 2 years ago
If you must bring forth examples of an "ideology" which permits, or perhaps it's more appropriate of me to say: practices the art of deception, why have you not stated the innumerous examples of Christian missionaries embarking on operations in poor underdeveloped MUSLIM countries, in which various forms of "lying" are utilized against uninformed village inhabitants including children. Would you like for me to cite some articles?
With Peace
ManifestationOfTruth 2 years ago
I do appreciate the assumption you made by saying that "it really does amaze me how people just blindly follow this misconception without actually studying the real facts." But this statement still does not deter attention to the issue.
The fact is, muslim sheiks say this and justify their words by referring to the koran. Lying is there and you guys just admitted it, trying to tell me, that no thats wrong and its something that another branch of islam prescribes, does not let you off scott free
Knowyourrights1 2 years ago
How is that statement detering attention to the issue? I really do not understand your logic here. If anything, it ENCOURAGES INVESTIGATION into the issue. Perhaps instead of making claims you can bring forth authentic citations and refrences? Note: My earlier capitlization of the two words was not intended to be offensive, merely to emphasize a point.
ManifestationOfTruth 2 years ago
I think I can help you out there. Taqiyya is not lying to advance your religion lol. Taqiyya is what the Prophet Muhammad PBUH allowed for the early muslims - to hide the fact that they are muslims, because those that were 'caught' were tortured. This does not hold now because no one kills you if you say you're a muslim. I'm not sure they were allowed to lie but it was primarily to hide their muslim beliefs in the early days of Islam before muslims could defend themselves.
falasteeniyyeh 2 years ago 3
@falasteeniyyeh> I acknowledge your point of view, however, it is unwise to take whats being said from you as truth right away without examining the evidence to see if its true or not. I will look more into it from historical sources.
Knowyourrights1 2 years ago
Fair enough
falasteeniyyeh 2 years ago
Its already known that's its ok to lie to further the cause of islam in areas where your muslim brothers are weak.
Muslim people are people and people are good.
but teaching hate and lying to people shows insecurity and is not right in and of it self
the truth is out, there is no use to try and hide it
Knowyourrights1 2 years ago
No, that is not true , the concept you are referring to is something that Shia's invented "Takiyyah" a Muslim is not allowed to lie to further a cause, even if it was Islam itself, the only "exemption" - not permission - was given to those who for instance denounced Islam after being tortured or their families threatened, etc. Meaning that God doesn't punish those who were "compelled" to do or say anything they don't believe in. And that is not the same as "allowing" a Muslim to lie
psychlopes1976 2 years ago 3
Just like court doesn't accept a confession extracted by coercion.
psychlopes1976 2 years ago
It really amazes me that you're living in an Islamic state (Egypt) and still believe such blatant lie. Only Shia's practice Takiyyah, and that is one of the many reasons why Sunni Muslims condemn their teachings. I'm a Muslim from Jordan, all the people around me are Muslims, and I have many christian friends; never once have I heard any Muslim tell me. preach or even whisper that it's ok to lie for any reason what so ever. Lying is utterly detested in Islam, whether to a muslim or a non-muslim
psychlopes1976 2 years ago 2
I even made a video explaining the subject of lying in Islam the video is called Hater Exposed 4. I agree with psychlopes1976, it really does amaze me how people just blindly follow this misconception without actually studying the real facts.
ozzycda 2 years ago
Amazing man, you outdid yourself with this one ... May Allah bless you.
psychlopes1976 2 years ago
MAy Allah Bless you.
Asalaam leikum.
hbk711x 2 years ago
السلام عليكم
A Muslim woman is the only present that wraps itself!!! :-) ♥
JazakAllah for this brother. I hope InshaAllah that everyone take time to listen to your video InshaAllah.
TrinidadMuslimah 2 years ago
Barak Allahu feek brother Ozz..
I just wanna ask a question, when are those islamophobe liars gonna leave Muslim women alone?
No one believes their fake sympathy for Muslim women.
Muslim women themselves have refuted that many times.
FireFlyWW 2 years ago 10
IT is just this ongoing myth they have created for themselves that women in Islam are suffering. They take these text which I have mentioned and also the abuse seen by the Taliban and other places, and think that somehow represents Islam. It really boils down to that.
ozzycda 2 years ago
one more thing ozzy in other videos you countered the accusation that islam was spread by the sword I was wondering if you could recomend books that actually portray how Islam spread without the sword thanks.....
Cephas113 2 years ago 2
btw bro ozzy, it is [Al N-i-s-a'i ]the narrator
Just thought I might add something to the mountains of your knowledge. ;)
greykode 2 years ago
Thank you very much for that, something I need to work on :D.
ozzycda 2 years ago
thanks bro.
naliakbar 2 years ago
AssalaamuAlaikum Sheikh Ozzy. Yar7amukAllah.
AntiHypocrisy 2 years ago
Good video bro,jazak Allah khir.
muslim610 2 years ago
Salam Alikum brother Ozzy...you are a true mujahid..May Allah swt reward you for all of your good work..Ameen
jaed123 2 years ago 3
Non Muslims going around quoting hadith are very dangerous. They are totally ignorant, yet there may be Muslims who read what they say and become convinced of something that is not true because of these ignorant people. It may even be subtle. It might confirm prejudices of a person if he lives in a male dominated society. So please ignorant non Muslims, convince Muslims that they can treat women badly, these things may have consequences in the lives of real women.
americanmuslimgirl 2 years ago 3
i am a non muslim but i desire to learn about islam and in particular the hadiths. how can i study the hadiths for myself in an accurate manner so i can learn what the hadiths are saying...??
Cephas113 2 years ago
I would recommend reading the Hadiths and also paying attention to the commentary done by scholars regarding the hadiths. Use Muslim websites that discuss the hadiths much like the one whos links u can see in the more info area of this video. IF you have any questions just let me know. Peace
ozzycda 2 years ago
my question to u is then how are islamic scholars statements about the hadiths different than the christian scholars statements about the gospels in light of recent work by ehrman and others showing the gospels were actually annoymous and the other promblems various nt books have?
Cephas113 2 years ago
Well for starters many of the earliest scholars knew people who were Companions of the Prophet or in some cases were the Companions themselves. Islam has a rich history of Tradition that is very solid and based on the Quran and Sunnah(way) of the Prophet Muhammad pbuh. If you would like to discuss this in more detail I use the website Stickam if you are interested we could talk more there. Peace.
ozzycda 2 years ago
possibly im not interested in debatethough. that does make sense and the gospels were branded matthew mark luke and john because of 2nd century church fathers not because of a rich history...
Cephas113 2 years ago
Oh no I don't mean debate just talk, I explain myself verbally and it would be a better place to just talk about whatever and in a more.....fuller way? Beyond these text boxes lol. I agree with Ehrman and the majority of most scholars who say that the Gospels were labeled as such much later then their actual writings. Just let me know if Stickam sounds good to you, we can just discuss Christianity and Islam, whatever you want.
ozzycda 2 years ago
sure thing i will let you know. can i ask you did your catholic family give you a lot of crap when you decided to convert? was it a hard time for you?
Cephas113 2 years ago
My mom is fully supportive of me, my Dad is as well but he is still getting use to the idea of me being Muslim. With regards to HIS side of the family I don't know if they know, if they do they aren't talking. My mom's side of the family is cool with it as well. But yeah for sure just let me know and like I said if you have any questions let me know. Peace.
ozzycda 2 years ago
oh well thats good i dont know how my parents would react.. anyways sorry if its 2 personal but whats the islamic perspective on dating and courtship before marriage
Cephas113 2 years ago
No no problem at all, I would like to talk to you on Stickam though if you wouldn't mind, just easier that way lol. Islam isn't very big on dating, courtship in most cultural is acceptable before marriage, however the way the west views dating, I think most Muslims would not agree with it.
ozzycda 2 years ago
okay if i have time i will get on stickcam im trying to get a summer job b4 i go back 2 school and i think u answered most of my questions n e way but i will defintely hit u up if i have any more.. thanks..
Cephas113 2 years ago
No problem I look forward to talking with you in the future.
Peace
ozzycda 2 years ago
Good work Ozzy.
sightuponlight 2 years ago
oh and any other websites besides the one you provided. thanks and best wishes..
Cephas113 2 years ago
Thank you and to you as well, I'll send you a link that will bring you to many great Muslim websites that discuss Islam. Peace.
ozzycda 2 years ago
The reason for Muhammad allowing Beating is bcoz way he thought about Women. There is a legitimate reason to Belief Muhammad did not gave proper respect to Women in Islam;
"Muslim Book 004, Number 1034:
Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: A woman, an Ass and a dog disrupt the prayer, but something like the back of a saddle guards against that"
so if a Women are like Ass or like Dogs ?
MindMasters 2 years ago
Mind I guess you didn't listen to my video, nor did you bother to look at the links I provided that refute the abuse of Hadiths, kinda like the one you just posted. Funny because in the article I cited it refutes the Hadith you just posted, thanks for proving my point.
ozzycda 2 years ago
I am sorry, abusing Haditsh a vast subject, nevertheless where did these article refute Hadith which I mentioned ?
You gave links of so called Islamic scholars who after the demise of Muhammad trying to give their best to save Muslim actions during the time of Muhammad ? You have conflicting data in Hand and one can only see with amazement the situation Muslim are facing.
MindMasters 2 years ago
Okay I'll spell it out for you, go to the MORE INFO area on this video it is the link below which are I labeled as "Link to the article I mentioned in the video" regarding Hadiths. Once you click on that I believe it is the third refuted Hadith. Enjoy. We are in no situation amazing or otherwise the Hadiths are very clear on the beliefs of the Prophet it just takes some haters to twist some things around as I have proven in this video.
ozzycda 2 years ago
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You don't need to "spell it out" to me rather just look the description itself! What they did, they brought "another Hadith" to refute it !
You failed to notice like other guys that you as Muslim simply can not refute sayings of Muhammad by quoting His other words, You agreed that these were the words of Muhammad, the only way you found it to show other words which contradicts His first !!
Muhammad easily said it that All if pass from a praying person annual its prayers, He used "Women" ..
MindMasters 2 years ago
The article clearly states that other Hadiths in the collections state that if ANYONE passes in front of a person it can annal prayer. The hadiths in the article show that even if a MAN passes in front it is an issue, so now Mind im sorry this Hadith is not JUST addressing WOMEN. He is saying that if is a sin to pass in front of a Muslim when he is praying, regardless of gender. He is also referring to anything or anyone that could cause distraction during prayer. This is what the article says.
ozzycda 2 years ago
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Donkeys and Dogs and in some Hadiths Black Dogs, and He even called Black Dogs as Shaitans ! very good.
When some one quote you the words of Muhammad, and if you quote another words of Muhammad then the obvious question arise, was He keep changing His own words, its seems like Damage control, the words are clear from hadiths, you could have said, these are Fabricated Haditshs, it may helped you, but quoting other Hadiths, only legitimate the claims of Muhammad opponents.
MindMasters 2 years ago
Your going off topic now Mind, I am not interested in arguing with you on these random little topics you bring up just to start an argument which I know you love so much. Stick to the topic at hand, the point is the article has the answers to your allegations if you choose to ignore them that is of course your choice. If you do not agree leave it at that and move on.
ozzycda 2 years ago
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My focus is still on the Hadiths which I quoted, and Yes I think Muhammad made both claims and Yes I do belief that Muslims can not refute Muhammad by quoting His other words. !
If u make a Claim 'A' and if challenged you on this Claim, you make another claim 'B' and say look accept my claim 'B', I don't deny my first claim 'A' but accept my claim 'B', what would world call you ?
However, like we said earlier to each other we can have our opinions, & I wish you all the best in responding.
MindMasters 2 years ago
As the scholars of Islam have it with the hadits by Aisha explaining the situation along with looking at all the Hadiths in question the point is the Prophet made it clear that one should take care not to have anything or anyone pass in front of one who is praying because it may distract the one praying. This is regardless of gender as I have said based on the Hadiths quoted in the article Furthermore my commentary on the Sahih Hadiths found in Sunan Abu Dawud regarding this topic is cont.
ozzycda 2 years ago
cont. the following. Some scholars and companions hold that if a man, women, donkey, or dog passes in front of a person praying, the prayer is voided. Another opinion is that none of those things void the prayer. The majority view based on Sunan Abu Dawud Hadith#718-719, is that it is not the physical persons or beings that interrupt the prayer but the possible distraction because of something passing in front of the person praying. That is the majority view as cited in Awn al Ma'bud 1. 262.
ozzycda 2 years ago
It does not help anyone who hates Islam nor does it help you Mind, because the hadiths of Aisha as seen IN THE ARTICLE help explain what the Prophet was saying in the Hadiths. He was very clear that NO ONE, regardless of gender should pass in front of someone when praying. That is a fact.
ozzycda 2 years ago
Salaam
Great job Ozzy
peace
zafthedon 2 years ago
I think that one big problem stems from the fact that most people who bring up this verse fail to read the very next verse. This is a case in which going back to the Arabic really helps. While fast, you did a good refutation as expected.
SubZero7th 2 years ago