BBC Interview with Michael Scheuer regarding CIA torture.

[housecry]

I'd like to know if British intelligence and MI5 have similar views to Michael Scheuer. Where can I find information regarding their position?

[desipimp299]

thanks for the vid.

mr. scheuer is one of the most intriguing characters i have ever heard of, and a true patriot!

[GlenRoSSe69]

@wignersfriendsfriend That is a lie in one way. They were NOT "destroyed", they were taken away. If the Bible is real then the act of destroying the 10 northern tribes would make that God a lair. Is he a lair? We have the story of the branch of the olive tree being rejoined to the tree - ten tribes coming back into gods plan. If so called Jews were really from Judea - they would be Judean's -NOT so called Israelis- they do not even use Israelite! They know they are fake and lairs! Rev 2&3 Ver 9!

[GlenRoSSe69]

"Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew."

(1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3).

[charms71]

this guy has guts and Americans should vote for any person with this guys mentality.

[TheHIETTz]

@charms71 RON PAUL 2012

[jeffmaylor]

Anyone interested in great articles about Jewish influence should go to The Occidental Observer (google it). Dr. Kevin MacDonald has written tons of intelligent material from the perspective of Evolutionary Psychology - very interesting. It is much more subtle and intelligent than what you usually find.

[Trevoc2]

Why doesn't he speak of Bin Laden's trip to American Hospital Dubai in July 4th, to 14th of 2001 and was protected by the CIA? Also, this guy has a degree from Canisius College Buffalo NY, which is a Jesuit school. If you do some research, you will learn about Jesuits, The Order of Jesuits, the Black Pope, and how Jesuits have infiltrated the CIA, CFR, and many organizations in a quest to control intelligence and countries. Dont always believe what you hear...check out some of this info.

[SuperMookman]

Michael Scheuer is former head of CIA's Bin Laden unit. Guess why he is former head. Because he failed! He failed to bring us one of the top American murderers of all times. A murderer that butchered 3,000 Americans on 9/11. Michael Scheuer should be ashamed of himself for failing at his job, for so many years, his one job - Get Bin Laden. Why should we listen to Michael Scheuer's strategy on Israel when his strategy on Bin Laden failed us!??

[Redcarpet01]

@SuperMookman Clinton said not to capturing and killing Bin Laden 10 times from 1998-99; the CIA can't do anything unless a President authorises it. Blaming others is just deception.

[heberfenderful]

@SuperMookman another uneducated person..educate yourself before you make such comments...what makes you that it was eazy to fin Osama in the first place...he is seen as a Jesus in the middle east..he is the center of their ideologies, their leader...they have lived in such environments for dozens of centuries...are extreme believers...He is the most wanted...but the most hidden...Michael Scheuer is a wise and patriotic american

[aznsbd]

Wasn't his strategy or his fault, the politicians on both sides tied his hands. The CIA could have killed bin laden 8 times under clinton and once under bush but they wouldn't our boys do their jobs right.

[jboric02]

Hi, Michael Scheuer's publicist? Could we possibly get a creepier photo of him for our little Youtube video? Hmmm?

[DigitalCortex]

@jboric02: That's not a photo I picked. When I uploaded the video YouTube assigned that frame from the video as the still picture. I guess when you're a creep who advocates torture you end up looking like a creep in photos.

[jboric02]

@DigitalCortex And I think the perception is that once you get one of these high-value terrorists -- and because you're the CIA you know they are high-value terrorists in a lot of cases -- they will be treated to much harsher, more draconian, more whatever methods.

I think that certainly is the perception, and I think the manner in which they are treated probably is different from the way someone is treated if he's arrested for stealing in a store here in the United States.

[jboric02]

@jboric02 I goofed on the comments, so read "And I think" first. This is an exerpt from PBS' Frontline. I've listened to him speak in numerous interviews and debates, and he is lukewarm to torture and it's merits... at best. And he's very much a straight shooter, demarcing how presidents Clinton, Bush, and others, have endangered us with our "unqualified support for Israel and totalitarian Arab regimes in the Middle East." I have mucho admiration for this guy and his refreshing candor.

[Redcarpet01]

@jboric02 Well that perception is accurate, certainly under Clinton since his version of the rendition programme was simply to send them to the Middle-East dictatorships as opposed to hold them in US custody.

[jboric02]

@DigitalCortex But again, I don't really have a quarrel with people being upset with that process. The agency really has nothing to do with that. These are decisions made by lawyers in the US government. In the end, agency officers would prefer to see these people treated as prisoners of war, because the results of interrogation are not largely important. We come back to the primary things, getting them off the street and getting their documents.

[jizzmonger]

@DigitalCortex Harsh interrogation was approved for 5 people at Gitmo, 2 of which had made movies of themselves and their friends grabbing somebody by the hair and cutting their head off while they were still alive. It amazes that you would care so deeply about what is done to such an individual. In America, we simply don't care about people like that. We weren't torturing for fun, we were harshly interrogating to keep other people from being killed.

[DigitalCortex]

@jizzmonger: First of all you don't speak for all Americans. Secondly being against torture doesn't mean I care about savage murderers, it means I'm against breaking the law and becoming a savage myself. We are a country of laws and I care when our laws are broken no matter who does it or the excuse they have for doing it. Thirdly, there's absolutely no proof that torturing saved any lives and you know it. Condoning torture doesn't make you a patriot it makes you a savage. Quit deluding yourself

[jizzmonger]

@DigitalCortex No laws were broken, the harsh interrogation of 5 key prisoners at Gitmo was approved by congress. 2 of these people that had water dumped over their face to simulate drowning were captured on video beheading Daniel Pearl. They took Daniel Pearl while he was alive, grabbed him by his hair and proceeded to saw his head off with knife while he screamed and choked in pain until his spinal column was finally severed by the blade.

[DigitalCortex]

@jizzmonger We executed Japanese officers for waterboarding American soldiers after WWII. I'm sure at the time their government approved it too but The Geneva Convention, to which we are a signatory, defines acts like waterboarding as torture and thus a war crime. It doesn't matter what those people did because this is not about them it's about America's legal and moral status in the world.

[jizzmonger]

@DigitalCortex LOL. America's moral status went by the wayside long ago buddy. The Japanese tortured AND THEN KILLED American soldiers. We are not permanently maiming, cutting, gouging these people for fun. We took 5 murderers and dumped water over them to make them think they were drowning (this is much less true waterboarding than the Japanese did) in order to get valuable information out of them.

[jizzmonger]

@DigitalCortex "to which we are a signatory, defines acts like waterboarding as torture and thus a war crime."

We haven't declared War on anyone since WWII so how can harshly interrogating the persons responsible for 911 be considered a War Crime?

[DigitalCortex]

@jizzmonger: Just because we no longer bother declaring war before we go to war doesn't mean we're not bound by the rules of war to which we have agreed.

[jizzmonger]

@DigitalCortex They weren't POW's

[jizzmonger]

@DigitalCortex jblog. jackcjohnson. com/Videos/muslim-videos/172. aspx

[jizzmonger]

@DigitalCortex "Secondly being against torture doesn't mean I care about savage murderers"

It does actually. You are demonizing Scheuer and coming to the rescue of somebody who has killed many Americans.

[DigitalCortex]

@jizzmonger: No it doesn't actually. Bullshit doesn't turn into the truth just because you repeat it. What I care about is the Constitution and the rule of law, for which many more Americans have given their lives. I'll say this about you, you do live up to your name. You truly are a Jizzmonger.

[jizzmonger]

@DigitalCortex It does actually. Americans have given their lives defending Americans. This means they killed people they thought were a threat.

[DigitalCortex]

@jizzmonger: You believe that you're a true American because you believe in torture and I'm not because I don't. That idea in and of itself goes against everything America stands for. You are right I'm not a Fascist American nor are most of the people that are citizens of this country.

[jizzmonger]

@DigitalCortex I think then that we can both agree that it's best just to kill them on the Battlefield rather than capturing them.

[DigitalCortex]

@jizzmonger: I agree with whatever the rules of engagement dictate. At the end of the day we must always have the moral high ground. We're better than the terrorists because we abide by the law.

[jizzmonger]

@DigitalCortex "We're better than the terrorists because we abide by the law."

When did Congress declare war on Al Quaeda.

"At the end of the day we must always have the moral high ground"

Translation: Send Americans over so they are targets rather than doing the killing necessary that it takes to win the war. Afterall, dead Americans are ok as long we can make it look like we are taking the "Moral High Ground" that is ever so important to you.

[DigitalCortex]

@jizzmonger: I never mentioned anything about the declaration of war. Either our troops are there legally or illegally. If they're there legally then there must be a set of laws that govern the situation, regardless of what you want to call it. If they're there illegally then they should not have been sent there and their deaths are on the people that sent them. You can't resort to mass murder, torture and anarchy every time you get pissed off. And yes, as a moral person I value morality.

[saadasim]

What a clear view. You cannot win the war unless you know the reality,

[MajNorberg]

The interviewer was out of her league.

[Repoman23]

thanks for this