Wow, I am utterly astounded at the "Goddy Guest" and his total lack of substance and conviction. It, yet again, shows that the creationist have absolutely no valuable argument when they are put on the spot. Thank you Richard Dawkins, may you and your brilliance continue...
im not joking christianity is dieing out in ireland especially catholism many people in my school think religion is total bullshit and we just laugh at the stupidity of many christians
Wow saying these things in Ireland, it's a wonder they didn't burn him on the stake. Ireland is a deeply fundamentalist country full of catholic faithheads, they need to be occupied. hehe
@sr81w I'm from Germany and have never been to Ireland, and I never will. I watched the movie "The Magdalene Sisters" and I'm still completely shocked. It's about the fascist system of the catholic church in Ireland, which incarcerated women and girls in Ireland in the so-called "Magdalene Laundries". The UN is investigating this stuff for torture and other human rights violations. E.g. raped women were put in these prisons without a trial and could be kept there forever. So horrible.
you do realize that the Magdalene sisters was set in the 1960's, 50 years ago, the last of the laundries were closed 20-30 years ago, thanks in part to the celtic tiger and the increased prosperity, education and the influx of new ideas that came with that religion has lost it's power, the scandals don't help. i 'm irish and and atheist. i feel the fact that you have never even been to ireland really invalidates your case,ireland has had a long and hard history and is imp cotd
@maboroshi1986 imperfect but we are working at it, religion has lost its status with most of us as i feel it has in Germany but can you say your country doesn't have devout extreme Christians? religious extremism is an unfortunate holdover from the past, the repression by church and state are truly horrific but to say that a country cannot change -especially one you have never been to- is short sighted and little better than those you are criticizing.
@maboroshi1986 but the last of these horrible places only closed in 1996, after 70 years. :-( It's just so heartbreaking. I'm sorry if I was unfair toward the Irish, but after watching the movie "the Magdalene Sisters", I did some research and I'm still completely shocked about that horrible injustice. I don't see how this can happen if it's not in a christian fundamentalist country. I'm sure many people in Ireland are appalled about it too though. But I do hate the fascist catholic church now.
@JeanySullivan you can easily be forgiven for judging the church or irish society THEN we do it and personally i consider the irish submission to the church to be one of the great shames of our country. But to say that we are the same now is.frankly short sighted. Also 1996 was when things really started.to get really good in ireland. irish society today is unidentifiable from even then.
lol, they basically end up dancing around the subject of the big-bang but not one physicists around to explain it!
I dislike these types of debates because 90% of the time BOTH parties talk in a vague philosophical manner. If they actually sat down and had a seminar where the scientist could present the evidence and/or mathematics behind their claims (with a Q&A at the end), I think we would get somewhere.
"Why is there something rather than nothing?" I don't know, Christian. Why is there something rather than nothing? "Because God exists and Jesus was his son." I see. Perfect logic. COMPLETE NON SEQUITUR!
"why is there something rather than nothing" maybe is the key question in a discussion between a deist and an atheist... it's not the key question in a discussion between an atheist and a follower of one of the big monotheistic religions.
christians will always end up retreating to the most abstract and vague definition of god wich can't really be disproofed. and if you ask about virgin births and burning bushes, they'll tell you an "educated" christian "knows" these are all metaphors... pfff!
wow, the vast majority of believers in the audience is pretty surprising to me... i mean in the US, sure, but europe (prejudices and stereotypes, i know, i know)? okay, i guess it does make (historical) sense that there are lots of religious people in ireland, but surprising nontheless.
I love how almost the first thing Dawkins said was that the extremists are the abnormal or minority, and the opposition immediately said he could sympathize with Dawkins, but that to call these extremists the "norm" is dishonest. I don't think he was listening.
It is so refreshing to listen to someone intelligent for once. I can longer bring myself to listen to the moronic nonsense spewed from the mouths of religious people. thank you Richard for making an intelligent argument that should be easy to understand by anyone
this is the best athiest/thiest argument ive seen so far..
but this guy wld be more of a diest than a thiest, as in he doesnt rly believe in organized religion and what not, but that there is a creator that designed the entire universe.
i used to believe the same thing, but then eventually i came to the conclusion that i cant actually belieeeevvveee that a CONSCIOUS MIND created time and space, when time and space created the conscious mind
I'm not saying I'll never finish watching this video, but when halfway through we got that message about the one true god and Dawkins promoting the *religion* of secular humanism, I couldn't find it in me to continue. If that's how it's going to be, I'll get my Dawkins face-time elsewhere...
When Kent Hovind gets out of prison, the first thing I want to see him do is debunk & refute Richard Dawkins in a single debate (maybe 2 just to see Dawkins put up a desperate fight) just like he did when he refuted all the other evolutionist debators in the past, and I want it to be on television & youtube :)
i'm honestly trying to follow the other guy's arguements, but he spends so much of his talking prevaricating and meandering... and at the end it seems to always boil down to special pleading.
Gotta say that guy from UCD speaks very well. I don't agree with many of his points but it must be said this is one of the better debates between richard and a theist counterpart online. Pretty cogent arguments from both and, what's more refreshing, a mutual respect.
This is the most intelligent conversation I've seen on the subject, even though Richard clearly is right. It's nice to see him not talking to redneck idiots for once.
Dawkins rules! Rationality is on the rise. Religion will eventually disappear, it's just a matter of time-- ike a river slowly cutting it's way through a canyon.
@AbbeyRoadkill1 I hope this would happen in my generation, then we can start to make a much better world through science and like you said rational thought. Thanks.
The Religious guy is just full of gibberish and poor logic. Please, one Religious person give me a piece of real evidence of explanation based on some kind of logic. I am begging you! Oh, just because Science does not prove something doesn't mean God did it. It means we still do not know the answer, and you still have to prove in favor of God as the answer.
Religious people say there is a God, and atheists say that there is no God, but they are both wrong, they are both missing the truth and the life. The truth is the only thing that can unite all human beings. It is the one thing we all have in common, and that will never change.
Google 'Truth Contest' and open the entry called 'The Present'. Read what it says, check the truth for yourself.
I live in England and i'm 18, i can tell you right now that religion is dying. In my generation religious people are a minority. God is becoming an imaginary figure to wider variety people. I stopped believing in him when i stopped believing in santa.
@LedDerek I live in Germany and I tell you the muslims are very faithful people. this open mindedness you speak of is mostly in the western oriented households.
The UCD philospopher Dr. Gerrard Casey is an embarrassment to both Ireland and to the philosophy department at UCD. He didn't actually listen to half of what Dawkins said, misquoted him repeatedly and was so wooly in his thinking that it makes one wonder about the general state of learning (and of teaching) in Irish universities.
look im sorry but atheists cant say that religious people dont have a right to believe in what they choose to believe. Because you would be hypocritical seeing as atheists hate being preached and told to believe in god
@toxin9 i believe that everyone has the right to choose what to believe - but i also reserve the right to mock them if their believes are unbelievebly stupid and nonsensical.
@toxin9 i see your point but, we (atheists) get boom-barded with hate from religous people for being a atheist. i myself have been called a fool, heathen, immoral and disgusting just for not thinking there is a god, but if we say anything back about religon we are labeld as disrespectfull and hypocritical so i think at the very least we have the right to tell them the truth and that is that they are idiots.
I really like how these two men talk about their ideas intend of fight about them. Regardless of who is right or wrong they are very adult about the conversation. Thumbs up to both of them.
It's just silly to pretend religious leaders don't tell their followers what to believe.
As for evidence, the person asserting a thing's existence has to prove it, I don't have to prove it's non-existence. And with that though,t I'm off out for the night. See if you can prove I'm not still here.
@xa1xe9xb10 Ok you're not religious and I am, but you know better. That works how? I'm not asking you to prove anything. I have stated there isn't scientific evidence, so what are you talking about? I don't need to prove anything either because I say I believe God exists, not I know. You don't know He doesn't, therefore you BELIEVE He doesn't. I don't think you quite understand the concept of what beliefs are. You're trying to be smart, but PROVING otherwise.
@xa1xe9xb10 Non-existence can be proven by negative evidential inference, which in fact is used a lot in science. F.x. will you prove that a single cell does not contain a mitocondrion if you observe it and you don't find it. This is based on the a priori knowledge that mitocondria indeed exists in certain cells.
@xa1xe9xb10 Your telling us that you don't have to believe in a self sustaining/ self creating universe, and are you telling us that you don't have to believe that all the VERY COMPLEX & finite machinery of the universe is unguided somehow??? This is proof that you are neither a physicist nor a geneticist. And you are definitely not an engineer. This is also proof that you assert evolution into the creation & sustaining of the universe on faith, it's a good thing that creationists don't do that.
@xa1xe9xb10 You said, "I'm off out for the night. See if you can prove I'm not still here"
-LOL, I believe that you're still here the same way I believe God is still here, both examples require no assertion, but the "origin of species theory" & cosmic evolution does require assertion. LOL, I love it when atheists/ evolutionists leave their selves vulnerable to irony.
@xa1xe9xb10 You see, creationists only assert necissary things (& with proof), but evolutionists/ atheists assert cosmic evolution & the "origin of species theory" on everything without proof because they cut out the possibility of a Creator before studying any field of study (maybe it's because they are spoiled, narcissistic, & self righteousness, I don't know...).
'Theists don't get told what to believe' - oh really?? Tell that to the pope/priest/preacher/imam/rabbi. For thousands of years anyone who doesn't share the dominant superstition in society has risked being tortured/murdered/excommunicated in the name of 'god'. And atheism isn't a "belief system", it's a repudiation of belief in favour of evidence.
@xa1xe9xb10 Yes really. I cannot speak for a time when I wasn't alive, but today is different. There doesn't necessarily have to be a halfway house from a person to God, so excommunication is irrelevant in the grand scale of things. Of course atheism is a belief system. Atheists BELIEVE God doesn't exist. There is no scientific evidence to prove or disprove His existence, so it IS a belief system. Or you could provide the evidence you speak of...
@ryama86 erm to believe something doesn't exist and to disbelieve it's existence is the same thing. Therefore I've no idea the motivation behind your comment as it's pointless. But that's up to you...
@ryama86 That told me! :) It is very telling you were on yt on Christmas day! Who, in their right mind would be on this yesterday? Only a sad, lonely, pathetic worm would, that's who. That is actually very sad. Maybe calling you a worm is too much, because I genuinely have pity for you. You can't possibly have a happy family set up. I had a great time yesterday with my family. I NEVER gave my laptop, never mind yt a thought at all. You must be so unhappy
@Teddybhoy32 Or ofcourse that doesnt support or follow christmas? You know, all those other people out there?
Oh and to believe something doesnt exist and lack of belief are qwasi the same thing, the problem is that 1 is an incorrect statement misleading people into thinking that in order to not belief in a god you must have a lbelief god doesnt exist, when in fact it is actually a lack of belief in god.
@MitchofSmeg How do you know what he does at Christmas? You don't. You don't have to follow Jesus to celebrate Christmas.Secondly, a belief is exactly that. For you to say it is incorrect, by definition, is stupid at best. You don't know again. You pulled me up for my assumption, yet produced two of your own. Followed by utter nonsense.
@Teddybhoy32 Never said i knew what he did, just putting out an answer which to me seems obvious (ie "maybe he doesnt give a damn about xmas") And i didnt say you did need jesus to celebrate.
Err, i read your comments moron and was replying to multiple comments in 1, go back and reread, i mean honestly, to not get the whole thing is ignorant on your own part.
Damn dude, you are making arguments that dont exist, no wonder you dont get what i said.
@MitchofSmeg YOU read back and see how incoherent your reply was. "moron"?? So you can't have a sensible discussion, where I just challenged your opinion, not you, with resorting to ad hominems. "Damn dude"??? You responded to me when it wasn't anything to do with you, yet I'm the one making arguments. Good one! Your two posts are incredible, incoherent, confrontational, contradictory and inaccurate. Well done you!
@Teddybhoy32 wow man your really losing it, for someone whos beliefs are based on tolerance and forgiveness you sure do have a nasty streak this'll be my last message to you because i cant be assed have a good life friend
@ryama86 Nice try. Well not really. It was actually a very lazy, nonsensical and inaccurate reply.I guess I hit a nerve with you then. No wonder though...
@xa1xe9xb10 You don't have to be a religion to have a leader. Atheism IS a belief system. Theists don't get told what to believe either. We do through our own free will.
The captions on this video are appalling. Are peopel that defensive and insecure about their fantasies? Get over it, there is no God and there has never been one. You've been just fine!
I'm a agnostic. I used to be christian. Infact I centered a lot of my life around Christianity. I even have a B/A in christian theology. But the last few years of my life have decided to look for answers outside of religion. I must agree that I feel more free every day. I'm learning a lot and I don't feel bad for having my own opinions and thoughts.
@DarkPrince1785 religion is indoctrinating and controlling. its telling people to be slaves in this life and hopefully you'll have a great life in the next with no proof of a 2nd life. why not live your fullest in the first life, the life your in now. i always tlel that to religious people, they never get it. im happy to know your not controlled by it.
As an agnostic/bordering on atheist, I have to say the one problem i have with most atheists is their arrogance, and perception of some right that they have to tell religious people how 'stupid' and 'deluded' they are. There are lots of extremely intelligent people who are deeply devout, they just have different ways of looking at things. Being an atheist/anti-nationalist/evolutionist doesnt make you superior or better than someone who believes in God/anything else. So grow up.
@FrankioloDiddlyDee Actually it allows atheists to feel beter about themselves than religious people, because they've outgrown the childish need of higher power/divine plan to give themselves a reason to live.
@FrankioloDiddlyDee but christianity is a completely brutal, sick, and twisted religion if you actually read the bible and actually THINK about some of the implications.
people who just ignore the brutality of what they believe in are deluding themselves. they think christianity is a loving, kind, and wonderful faith but in fact its sick and twisted.
they're not necessarily stupid people, but they are BEING stupid by ignoring that stuff.
@The1andOnlyCG but do you see the existential horror that might rise up in people, older generations in particular, who have been raised devout, educated and thoroughly believe in it (im thinking of my grandmother, devout Irish Catholic) and the idea that everyone they have lost and loved in their lives have all just rotted in the ground, and all the pain is for nothing? and christianity isn't all bad, atheist or not christ's ideas were laudable...do u see any good in religion?
@FrankioloDiddlyDee Maybe its not arrogance... maybe its just a simple pain in the arse that has grown into frustration at the stupid arguments the religious keep putting forward for belief in a god that will solve their problems, rather than take responsibility for their actions.
The problem is not the belief per se, the same sort of beliefs exist with political ideology etc.
The issue is living in a world where others justify irresponsibility using an invisible being in the sky!
CONT. The issue is also that there are very large and very powerful organisations whose sole purpose is to use the poor to become even more amazingly wealthy and powerful whilst giving nothing back to the society they derived that power from.
As an example of that in the USA last year 107.4 billion dollars was given in tithe and donations to assorted churches... about 7% of that is used for actual charity... which is less than the average commercial business donates to charity!
CONT. And lastly as if those two things weren't frustrating enough in a world that does not use its resources well enough to look after its own kind.
As if those weren't bad enough we afford this irrational belief a position of respect commensurate with things that are virtuous and important when there is not only no evidence it is in any way accurate... but its repeatedly demonstrated inaccuracy is bloody dangerous.
Also with the greatest of respect I'd like to point you to EX. 20:16
1. Why something instead of nothing? Answer: X. 2. Is X something? Answer: Yes. 3. For all X in 2, X is something. Therefore, 1 cannot be answered without fallacy. So 1, is invalid.
I am an atheist but can someone explain why he is even talking about this? He obviously doesn't know anything of theology or philosophy. His usage of terms is so circumlocutory and casual that I don't get why the other man is taking him seriously at all. No-one in academia takes this aspect of Dawkins's work seriously for these kinds of reasons: but why are we giving it any credit in pop-culture?
Gods only exist for as long as they have their stupid, angry little human animators. Once the animators die off , the gods they once empowered shrivel up and die, and become merely anthropological curiosities.
lol that guy who starts talking at about 5 minutes, just does a straw man, stating things richard dawkins didnt say, ie that a small part of a population represents the whole (and in fact richard dawkins said the EXACT opposite lmao, he made a straw man and then repeated what dawkins said), then he just starts rambling about nonsense.
what a fucking clown, i bet he can juggle like a motherfucker !!
@Helptheherd "atheism is stupid" day made. i read that as "USING YOUR SKILLS OF DEDUCTION AND REASON IS SO DUMB AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
Trying to win over this crowd, lol yeh some job, they just read their little prayers and don't actually study something so big that they stand so strong in,
"Something can't come from nothing". A poor argument from the religious community. An atheist can easily ask back, where did God come from then? Who created Him?
Seriously, on what basis is that statement, 'something must not come from nothing'? That rule only applies on Earth. There has never been an experiment of conservation of energy in other parts of universe, or outside of the universe for that matter. Things might act differently there...
@folic4luv28 You ended up here because you probably watched the Jimmy Carr clip from when he was on the Late Late show, which is the same show as the one in this clip. Jimmy Carr also talks about atheism whilst on the Late Late show, which again relates the two clips I'm thinking of, and Jimmy Carr mentions the books written by Richard Dawkins in the other clip. This would have led to this clip being suggested to you, should you have watched Jimmy Carr on the late late show.
lol at the beginning when the guy is like "so dawkins, all these people are deluded?"
lol its hard for dawkins to be like yes you're all illogical and unreasonable in your belief. almost to the point where i thought he wasnt gonna say well..yes.. lol.. but then again he isn't the type to lie about whats on his mind he doesn't care how many people oppose him and he came up with such a good answer lol .."i fear that's right" lol man im not an atheist but dawkins is the nuts! (meaning the best)
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It makes me downright ashamed to be Irish watching this.
PacifistPigeon 10 hours ago
he's brave to say his first lines... I have an extreme amount of respect for Richard Dawkins, he changed my life through his books and his speeches
scienceevolution94 1 day ago
Wow, I am utterly astounded at the "Goddy Guest" and his total lack of substance and conviction. It, yet again, shows that the creationist have absolutely no valuable argument when they are put on the spot. Thank you Richard Dawkins, may you and your brilliance continue...
OBinLaden1 2 days ago
Just because you can talk fast, doesn't mean you're smart.
Just because you can conjure up an explanation, doesn't mean it's true.
mellowcowism 3 days ago
Can that other guy please just slow down? Or someone slow down the tape.
And BTW, the little text passing by in the middle of the video... what a load of bullSHIT.
Skywalker91 4 days ago
im not joking christianity is dieing out in ireland especially catholism many people in my school think religion is total bullshit and we just laugh at the stupidity of many christians
Stevenbfg 5 days ago
Wow saying these things in Ireland, it's a wonder they didn't burn him on the stake. Ireland is a deeply fundamentalist country full of catholic faithheads, they need to be occupied. hehe
JeanySullivan 1 week ago
@JeanySullivan That's a very stereotypical idea of Ireland you have there. When were you last in Ireland may i ask? And where are you from yourself?
sr81w 1 week ago
@sr81w I'm from Germany and have never been to Ireland, and I never will. I watched the movie "The Magdalene Sisters" and I'm still completely shocked. It's about the fascist system of the catholic church in Ireland, which incarcerated women and girls in Ireland in the so-called "Magdalene Laundries". The UN is investigating this stuff for torture and other human rights violations. E.g. raped women were put in these prisons without a trial and could be kept there forever. So horrible.
JeanySullivan 5 days ago
you do realize that the Magdalene sisters was set in the 1960's, 50 years ago, the last of the laundries were closed 20-30 years ago, thanks in part to the celtic tiger and the increased prosperity, education and the influx of new ideas that came with that religion has lost it's power, the scandals don't help. i 'm irish and and atheist. i feel the fact that you have never even been to ireland really invalidates your case,ireland has had a long and hard history and is imp cotd
maboroshi1986 5 days ago
@maboroshi1986 imperfect but we are working at it, religion has lost its status with most of us as i feel it has in Germany but can you say your country doesn't have devout extreme Christians? religious extremism is an unfortunate holdover from the past, the repression by church and state are truly horrific but to say that a country cannot change -especially one you have never been to- is short sighted and little better than those you are criticizing.
maboroshi1986 5 days ago
@maboroshi1986 but the last of these horrible places only closed in 1996, after 70 years. :-( It's just so heartbreaking. I'm sorry if I was unfair toward the Irish, but after watching the movie "the Magdalene Sisters", I did some research and I'm still completely shocked about that horrible injustice. I don't see how this can happen if it's not in a christian fundamentalist country. I'm sure many people in Ireland are appalled about it too though. But I do hate the fascist catholic church now.
JeanySullivan 4 days ago
@JeanySullivan you can easily be forgiven for judging the church or irish society THEN we do it and personally i consider the irish submission to the church to be one of the great shames of our country. But to say that we are the same now is.frankly short sighted. Also 1996 was when things really started.to get really good in ireland. irish society today is unidentifiable from even then.
maboroshi1986 4 days ago
0:43 - I can actually see about 5 intelligent people in this group.
RedLine353 1 week ago
Ha, wow, what a one sided introduction.
jaymaccool 1 week ago
After you facepalm the first time just keep your hand there. Save yourself the energy.
Tayl1rYT 1 week ago
All the stupidity at the bottom of the screen is annoying
MrNU998 2 weeks ago
lol, they basically end up dancing around the subject of the big-bang but not one physicists around to explain it!
I dislike these types of debates because 90% of the time BOTH parties talk in a vague philosophical manner. If they actually sat down and had a seminar where the scientist could present the evidence and/or mathematics behind their claims (with a Q&A at the end), I think we would get somewhere.
Dranzira 2 weeks ago
I really do wonder how many people who watched this, had their world rocked.
DAGATHire 2 weeks ago
what is the other guy saying? can anyone understand him?
cetramaster 2 weeks ago
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"Why is there something rather than nothing?" I don't know, Christian. Why is there something rather than nothing? "Because God exists and Jesus was his son." I see. Perfect logic. COMPLETE NON SEQUITUR!
huwrj 3 weeks ago
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huwrj 3 weeks ago
Dawkins: Intellectual, courageous and GODLIKE patience.
smbndt 3 weeks ago
@smbndt i wish i had that patience with theist.
martystreets 2 weeks ago
@martystreets yeah me too. It's incredible how can he be so polite and still be very objective at the same time.
smbndt 2 weeks ago
dawkings answer at around 8 minutes is excellent!!!
reeceyhiggs 3 weeks ago
too easy
Staldren 4 weeks ago
"why is there something rather than nothing" maybe is the key question in a discussion between a deist and an atheist... it's not the key question in a discussion between an atheist and a follower of one of the big monotheistic religions.
christians will always end up retreating to the most abstract and vague definition of god wich can't really be disproofed. and if you ask about virgin births and burning bushes, they'll tell you an "educated" christian "knows" these are all metaphors... pfff!
Caminacels 1 month ago
wow, the vast majority of believers in the audience is pretty surprising to me... i mean in the US, sure, but europe (prejudices and stereotypes, i know, i know)? okay, i guess it does make (historical) sense that there are lots of religious people in ireland, but surprising nontheless.
Caminacels 1 month ago
That other guy says so many words without actually making any point.
sushanalone 1 month ago
I love how almost the first thing Dawkins said was that the extremists are the abnormal or minority, and the opposition immediately said he could sympathize with Dawkins, but that to call these extremists the "norm" is dishonest. I don't think he was listening.
jont43 1 month ago 2
@jont43 Like most religious folks, he picks out a few random words, rearranges them into new sentences, and then responds to those.
Snakepliskinist 1 month ago
If I were to believe in God, and choose it, I´d definitely wouldn´t choose the christian one. He /she/it´s boring, greek gods seems more fun.
LoverofLiszt 1 month ago
It is so refreshing to listen to someone intelligent for once. I can longer bring myself to listen to the moronic nonsense spewed from the mouths of religious people. thank you Richard for making an intelligent argument that should be easy to understand by anyone
justjulie37 1 month ago
this is the best athiest/thiest argument ive seen so far..
but this guy wld be more of a diest than a thiest, as in he doesnt rly believe in organized religion and what not, but that there is a creator that designed the entire universe.
i used to believe the same thing, but then eventually i came to the conclusion that i cant actually belieeeevvveee that a CONSCIOUS MIND created time and space, when time and space created the conscious mind
reemabadge 1 month ago 2
I'm not saying I'll never finish watching this video, but when halfway through we got that message about the one true god and Dawkins promoting the *religion* of secular humanism, I couldn't find it in me to continue. If that's how it's going to be, I'll get my Dawkins face-time elsewhere...
s3xypie 1 month ago
When Kent Hovind gets out of prison, the first thing I want to see him do is debunk & refute Richard Dawkins in a single debate (maybe 2 just to see Dawkins put up a desperate fight) just like he did when he refuted all the other evolutionist debators in the past, and I want it to be on television & youtube :)
starsheild7 1 month ago
If I had been that professor, I would have accepted his argument, shook Richard by the hand and thanked him for saving me from delusion forevermore
benstephenson7 1 month ago
i'm honestly trying to follow the other guy's arguements, but he spends so much of his talking prevaricating and meandering... and at the end it seems to always boil down to special pleading.
daiklaive 1 month ago
If you're interested in this stuff, check out "Science, Magic, and Religion", a fascinating video lecture course available to view on Academic Earth
mheng3000 1 month ago
Gotta say that guy from UCD speaks very well. I don't agree with many of his points but it must be said this is one of the better debates between richard and a theist counterpart online. Pretty cogent arguments from both and, what's more refreshing, a mutual respect.
djrizm 1 month ago
dawkins is the man hes ahead of his time, and hes not afraid to speak his mind absolute hero.
juren669 1 month ago
i knew from the moment the host said "in order to rebut you've got to prove that there's a god", this argument's done
TheKnightFalls 1 month ago
This is the most intelligent conversation I've seen on the subject, even though Richard clearly is right. It's nice to see him not talking to redneck idiots for once.
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jakedizzle 1 month ago
Dawkins rules! Rationality is on the rise. Religion will eventually disappear, it's just a matter of time-- ike a river slowly cutting it's way through a canyon.
AbbeyRoadkill1 1 month ago 2
@AbbeyRoadkill1 I hope this would happen in my generation, then we can start to make a much better world through science and like you said rational thought. Thanks.
spareaxe 1 month ago
The Religious guy is just full of gibberish and poor logic. Please, one Religious person give me a piece of real evidence of explanation based on some kind of logic. I am begging you! Oh, just because Science does not prove something doesn't mean God did it. It means we still do not know the answer, and you still have to prove in favor of God as the answer.
Hulkamania4eva 1 month ago
there is a HUGE percentage of Americans who still think that the Sun revolves around the Earth!
Bobbied100 1 month ago
What the fuck is up with that scroll bar at the bottom? Whats that bullshit?
clayton9m 1 month ago
As Stephen Hawking said, "Asking what's before the big bang is like asking what's more south of the south pole."
TarousDT 1 month ago
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Religious people say there is a God, and atheists say that there is no God, but they are both wrong, they are both missing the truth and the life. The truth is the only thing that can unite all human beings. It is the one thing we all have in common, and that will never change.
Google 'Truth Contest' and open the entry called 'The Present'. Read what it says, check the truth for yourself.
jzs1501 1 month ago
santa reflects how those christian assholes think making up an imaginary person can help control believers
dopeasfuckk 1 month ago
Can you translate to Spanish? XD I don´t understand everything they said. I´m level 2 in my school english, XD.
memorupit 1 month ago
the religious guy keeps twisting Richard's ideas & compares them to unrelated examples. Look at:
5:04 to 5:25 (Richard never said that the minority of religious extremists was the norm, & yet this man is implying otherwise)
& also
8:07 to 8:50 (this one isn't even related to the point at all)
I feel like this man MUST twist people's words in order to feel like he's won an argument; the work of a twisted & restricted mind.
fiendfury 2 months ago
I live in England and i'm 18, i can tell you right now that religion is dying. In my generation religious people are a minority. God is becoming an imaginary figure to wider variety people. I stopped believing in him when i stopped believing in santa.
LedDerek 2 months ago 22
@LedDerek YAAY! I never actually started :/
sinachiniforoosh 2 months ago 3
@LedDerek I live in Germany and I tell you the muslims are very faithful people. this open mindedness you speak of is mostly in the western oriented households.
therealluckystrik3r 1 week ago
@LedDerek Unfortunately, that is only true for people in western Europe.
mellowcowism 3 days ago
The UCD philospopher Dr. Gerrard Casey is an embarrassment to both Ireland and to the philosophy department at UCD. He didn't actually listen to half of what Dawkins said, misquoted him repeatedly and was so wooly in his thinking that it makes one wonder about the general state of learning (and of teaching) in Irish universities.
mucalinda 2 months ago
The way Dawkins turned and looked at the religious guy was epic.
supermaroilogan 2 months ago
Pat " How can so many people be wrong?".
What a plank!
LuckynumberSlevin11 2 months ago 3
look im sorry but atheists cant say that religious people dont have a right to believe in what they choose to believe. Because you would be hypocritical seeing as atheists hate being preached and told to believe in god
toxin9 2 months ago
@toxin9 i believe that everyone has the right to choose what to believe - but i also reserve the right to mock them if their believes are unbelievebly stupid and nonsensical.
Purojannu 2 months ago
@toxin9 i see your point but, we (atheists) get boom-barded with hate from religous people for being a atheist. i myself have been called a fool, heathen, immoral and disgusting just for not thinking there is a god, but if we say anything back about religon we are labeld as disrespectfull and hypocritical so i think at the very least we have the right to tell them the truth and that is that they are idiots.
cazbert6 2 months ago
"How can so many people be wrong?"
I nearly lost it in the first 2 minutes >.>
Mopopolis 2 months ago
@Mopopolis Yeah - he actually said it with a straight face - like it was actually a sensible statement! What a tit.
krackersdave 2 months ago
Is that guy really a philosopher? He sounds quite confused.
unifiedreality 2 months ago
Man he looks intimidated by Dawkins... I almost feel bad for him babbling along and making a fool of himself.
ZachRose88 2 months ago 61
@ZachRose88 And believing in your friends is not faith, it is trust = You believe them because of their history of telling the truth.
LoverofLiszt 1 month ago
what the fuck is that religious guy saying?? just babbling seriously...
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konfoshari9 2 months ago
I really like how these two men talk about their ideas intend of fight about them. Regardless of who is right or wrong they are very adult about the conversation. Thumbs up to both of them.
NoMorThanMost 2 months ago
It's just silly to pretend religious leaders don't tell their followers what to believe.
As for evidence, the person asserting a thing's existence has to prove it, I don't have to prove it's non-existence. And with that though,t I'm off out for the night. See if you can prove I'm not still here.
xa1xe9xb10 2 months ago 27
@xa1xe9xb10 Ok you're not religious and I am, but you know better. That works how? I'm not asking you to prove anything. I have stated there isn't scientific evidence, so what are you talking about? I don't need to prove anything either because I say I believe God exists, not I know. You don't know He doesn't, therefore you BELIEVE He doesn't. I don't think you quite understand the concept of what beliefs are. You're trying to be smart, but PROVING otherwise.
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TheShaitanjr 2 months ago
@xa1xe9xb10 this is one of the best comments i've seen in a while :D
TheBukowskilover 2 months ago
@xa1xe9xb10 Non-existence can be proven by negative evidential inference, which in fact is used a lot in science. F.x. will you prove that a single cell does not contain a mitocondrion if you observe it and you don't find it. This is based on the a priori knowledge that mitocondria indeed exists in certain cells.
Stinukli 1 month ago
@xa1xe9xb10 Your telling us that you don't have to believe in a self sustaining/ self creating universe, and are you telling us that you don't have to believe that all the VERY COMPLEX & finite machinery of the universe is unguided somehow??? This is proof that you are neither a physicist nor a geneticist. And you are definitely not an engineer. This is also proof that you assert evolution into the creation & sustaining of the universe on faith, it's a good thing that creationists don't do that.
starsheild7 1 month ago
@xa1xe9xb10 You said, "I'm off out for the night. See if you can prove I'm not still here"
-LOL, I believe that you're still here the same way I believe God is still here, both examples require no assertion, but the "origin of species theory" & cosmic evolution does require assertion. LOL, I love it when atheists/ evolutionists leave their selves vulnerable to irony.
starsheild7 1 month ago
@xa1xe9xb10 You see, creationists only assert necissary things (& with proof), but evolutionists/ atheists assert cosmic evolution & the "origin of species theory" on everything without proof because they cut out the possibility of a Creator before studying any field of study (maybe it's because they are spoiled, narcissistic, & self righteousness, I don't know...).
starsheild7 1 month ago
@xa1xe9xb10 you can't disprove Thor or the flying spagetti monster.
Seano71 3 weeks ago
'Theists don't get told what to believe' - oh really?? Tell that to the pope/priest/preacher/imam/rabbi. For thousands of years anyone who doesn't share the dominant superstition in society has risked being tortured/murdered/excommunicated in the name of 'god'. And atheism isn't a "belief system", it's a repudiation of belief in favour of evidence.
xa1xe9xb10 2 months ago 3
@xa1xe9xb10 Yes really. I cannot speak for a time when I wasn't alive, but today is different. There doesn't necessarily have to be a halfway house from a person to God, so excommunication is irrelevant in the grand scale of things. Of course atheism is a belief system. Atheists BELIEVE God doesn't exist. There is no scientific evidence to prove or disprove His existence, so it IS a belief system. Or you could provide the evidence you speak of...
Teddybhoy32 2 months ago
@Teddybhoy32 belief system lol id say more a disbelief system
ryama86 2 months ago
@ryama86 erm to believe something doesn't exist and to disbelieve it's existence is the same thing. Therefore I've no idea the motivation behind your comment as it's pointless. But that's up to you...
Teddybhoy32 2 months ago
@Teddybhoy32 was being ironic something i really believe in .....or disbelieve in whatever same thing right??? you are a moron
ryama86 2 months ago
@ryama86 That told me! :) It is very telling you were on yt on Christmas day! Who, in their right mind would be on this yesterday? Only a sad, lonely, pathetic worm would, that's who. That is actually very sad. Maybe calling you a worm is too much, because I genuinely have pity for you. You can't possibly have a happy family set up. I had a great time yesterday with my family. I NEVER gave my laptop, never mind yt a thought at all. You must be so unhappy
Teddybhoy32 2 months ago
@Teddybhoy32 Or ofcourse that doesnt support or follow christmas? You know, all those other people out there?
Oh and to believe something doesnt exist and lack of belief are qwasi the same thing, the problem is that 1 is an incorrect statement misleading people into thinking that in order to not belief in a god you must have a lbelief god doesnt exist, when in fact it is actually a lack of belief in god.
Very much different in the end.
MitchofSmeg 2 months ago
@MitchofSmeg How do you know what he does at Christmas? You don't. You don't have to follow Jesus to celebrate Christmas.Secondly, a belief is exactly that. For you to say it is incorrect, by definition, is stupid at best. You don't know again. You pulled me up for my assumption, yet produced two of your own. Followed by utter nonsense.
Teddybhoy32 2 months ago
@Teddybhoy32 Never said i knew what he did, just putting out an answer which to me seems obvious (ie "maybe he doesnt give a damn about xmas") And i didnt say you did need jesus to celebrate.
Err, i read your comments moron and was replying to multiple comments in 1, go back and reread, i mean honestly, to not get the whole thing is ignorant on your own part.
Damn dude, you are making arguments that dont exist, no wonder you dont get what i said.
MitchofSmeg 2 months ago
@MitchofSmeg YOU read back and see how incoherent your reply was. "moron"?? So you can't have a sensible discussion, where I just challenged your opinion, not you, with resorting to ad hominems. "Damn dude"??? You responded to me when it wasn't anything to do with you, yet I'm the one making arguments. Good one! Your two posts are incredible, incoherent, confrontational, contradictory and inaccurate. Well done you!
Teddybhoy32 2 months ago
@Teddybhoy32 wow man your really losing it, for someone whos beliefs are based on tolerance and forgiveness you sure do have a nasty streak this'll be my last message to you because i cant be assed have a good life friend
ryama86 2 months ago
@ryama86 Nice try. Well not really. It was actually a very lazy, nonsensical and inaccurate reply.I guess I hit a nerve with you then. No wonder though...
Teddybhoy32 2 months ago
atheists need a better leader than dick dawkins. After Hitchens goes, there's no personalities left. He is the only one with a bit of character
Teddybhoy32 3 months ago
@Teddybhoy32 Atheists don't have a "leader" - atheism is not a religion and we don't need to be told what to believe - that's sort of the point.
xa1xe9xb10 2 months ago
@xa1xe9xb10 You don't have to be a religion to have a leader. Atheism IS a belief system. Theists don't get told what to believe either. We do through our own free will.
Teddybhoy32 2 months ago
The captions on this video are appalling. Are peopel that defensive and insecure about their fantasies? Get over it, there is no God and there has never been one. You've been just fine!
Rainbowsixoperator1 3 months ago
At the end there .. the question 'what was before the big bang?' is not a good question.
This universe has certain properties. It contains observable things like matter, gravity etc. but also things like causality and time.
In this case 'time' is a property that is contingent on their being a universe. Time itself started with the universe.
Hence the question "what came 'before' the universe?" is certainly not a 'good' question.
Unless what colour is a one ended stick is a good question?
Unrealistix 3 months ago
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akeello 3 months ago
I'm a agnostic. I used to be christian. Infact I centered a lot of my life around Christianity. I even have a B/A in christian theology. But the last few years of my life have decided to look for answers outside of religion. I must agree that I feel more free every day. I'm learning a lot and I don't feel bad for having my own opinions and thoughts.
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akeello 3 months ago
@DarkPrince1785 religion is indoctrinating and controlling. its telling people to be slaves in this life and hopefully you'll have a great life in the next with no proof of a 2nd life. why not live your fullest in the first life, the life your in now. i always tlel that to religious people, they never get it. im happy to know your not controlled by it.
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akeello 3 months ago
As an agnostic/bordering on atheist, I have to say the one problem i have with most atheists is their arrogance, and perception of some right that they have to tell religious people how 'stupid' and 'deluded' they are. There are lots of extremely intelligent people who are deeply devout, they just have different ways of looking at things. Being an atheist/anti-nationalist/evolutionist doesnt make you superior or better than someone who believes in God/anything else. So grow up.
FrankioloDiddlyDee 3 months ago
@FrankioloDiddlyDee Actually it allows atheists to feel beter about themselves than religious people, because they've outgrown the childish need of higher power/divine plan to give themselves a reason to live.
LinX1515 3 months ago
@FrankioloDiddlyDee but christianity is a completely brutal, sick, and twisted religion if you actually read the bible and actually THINK about some of the implications.
people who just ignore the brutality of what they believe in are deluding themselves. they think christianity is a loving, kind, and wonderful faith but in fact its sick and twisted.
they're not necessarily stupid people, but they are BEING stupid by ignoring that stuff.
The1andOnlyCG 3 months ago
@The1andOnlyCG but do you see the existential horror that might rise up in people, older generations in particular, who have been raised devout, educated and thoroughly believe in it (im thinking of my grandmother, devout Irish Catholic) and the idea that everyone they have lost and loved in their lives have all just rotted in the ground, and all the pain is for nothing? and christianity isn't all bad, atheist or not christ's ideas were laudable...do u see any good in religion?
FrankioloDiddlyDee 3 months ago
@FrankioloDiddlyDee in order to prevent a lot of strife, religion needs to slowly fade from the world, starting in the young generations.
anyway its not all nice: non-christians supposedly go to hell. me for example, i used to be a christian but i decided i couldn't believe any of it
im not a bad person; having heated debates about religion on the internet is about the only bad thing i do.
but im supposedly gonna burn in horrific agony for ETERNITY. do i deserve that?
does ANYONE deserve that?
The1andOnlyCG 3 months ago
@FrankioloDiddlyDee Maybe its not arrogance... maybe its just a simple pain in the arse that has grown into frustration at the stupid arguments the religious keep putting forward for belief in a god that will solve their problems, rather than take responsibility for their actions.
The problem is not the belief per se, the same sort of beliefs exist with political ideology etc.
The issue is living in a world where others justify irresponsibility using an invisible being in the sky!
Unrealistix 3 months ago
CONT. The issue is also that there are very large and very powerful organisations whose sole purpose is to use the poor to become even more amazingly wealthy and powerful whilst giving nothing back to the society they derived that power from.
As an example of that in the USA last year 107.4 billion dollars was given in tithe and donations to assorted churches... about 7% of that is used for actual charity... which is less than the average commercial business donates to charity!
Unrealistix 3 months ago
CONT. And lastly as if those two things weren't frustrating enough in a world that does not use its resources well enough to look after its own kind.
As if those weren't bad enough we afford this irrational belief a position of respect commensurate with things that are virtuous and important when there is not only no evidence it is in any way accurate... but its repeatedly demonstrated inaccuracy is bloody dangerous.
Also with the greatest of respect I'd like to point you to EX. 20:16
Unrealistix 3 months ago
he could have asked "how many in here are stupid ?"
Merveilleux202 3 months ago
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Jesus suffering is nothing compared to what Richard Dawkins is going through with this kind of people.
SDRalph 3 months ago
@deckard2034 Richard Dawkons and Gerard Casey are both introduced by the shows host, Pat Kenney, at the start of the show.
aveeno2010 3 months ago
4:50 "Your move bitch"
VincentsBlog 3 months ago
1. Why something instead of nothing? Answer: X. 2. Is X something? Answer: Yes. 3. For all X in 2, X is something. Therefore, 1 cannot be answered without fallacy. So 1, is invalid.
antinominianist 3 months ago
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euroman32589 3 months ago
I wonder how much evidence he has for his BELIEFS on the origin of the universe...right, none. The universe came from nothing, spontaneously? Right.
philster00700 3 months ago
something is more stable than nothing, the idea of infinity nothing is exceptionally unstable
RevelAlliance 3 months ago
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akeello 3 months ago
Of course there's a god look a positive force religion has had on Ireland's history.
youngian 3 months ago
I am an atheist but can someone explain why he is even talking about this? He obviously doesn't know anything of theology or philosophy. His usage of terms is so circumlocutory and casual that I don't get why the other man is taking him seriously at all. No-one in academia takes this aspect of Dawkins's work seriously for these kinds of reasons: but why are we giving it any credit in pop-culture?
PorteousR 3 months ago
The problem is, most people are as thick as pig shit. The mystery to me is, how can Dawkins talk to these people without ripping his hair out?
TheFestivelights 3 months ago
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I know for a fact that there is no God.
It's very clear and easy to see.
Gods only exist for as long as they have their stupid, angry little human animators. Once the animators die off , the gods they once empowered shrivel up and die, and become merely anthropological curiosities.
Oceanus57 3 months ago
the religious guys rebuttal is LAUGHABLE.....Dawkins is as ever ...cool ....calm and CORRECT
thomasbryn1 3 months ago 16
Wow, an intelligent religious person. Didn't see that one comming, oh right he's an ex athiest, that explains it.
misfitstattoo 3 months ago
lol that guy who starts talking at about 5 minutes, just does a straw man, stating things richard dawkins didnt say, ie that a small part of a population represents the whole (and in fact richard dawkins said the EXACT opposite lmao, he made a straw man and then repeated what dawkins said), then he just starts rambling about nonsense.
what a fucking clown, i bet he can juggle like a motherfucker !!
mikesomething 3 months ago
The belief that there is no god is just as much of a baseless claim as the belief that there is one.
umadbro567 3 months ago
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please be reasonable or think before you type.
WellRed1000 3 months ago
i didnt watch this crap...atheism is evil
God bless
Helptheherd 3 months ago
@Helptheherd Of course you didn´t watch, or listen or learn, that what christians do.
yatter1 3 months ago
@yatter1 sorry i didnt have time for that garbage like you do- atheism is stupid
Helptheherd 3 months ago
@Helptheherd Coming from you, I´ll take that as a compliment.
yatter1 3 months ago
@yatter1 it wasnt a compliment
God bless
Helptheherd 3 months ago
@Helptheherd I know it wasn´t, fuck your god.
yatter1 3 months ago
@yatter1 sorry i dont respond to rude ppl
God bless
Helptheherd 3 months ago
@Helptheherd You just did you moron.
yatter1 3 months ago
@yatter1 i didnt do anything
God bless
Helptheherd 3 months ago
@Helptheherd You did it again you plank of wood.
yatter1 3 months ago
@yatter1 i already told you that i didnt do anything
God bless
Helptheherd 3 months ago
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@Helptheherd You keep inferring that you´re not going to reply, but you keep replying, just how fucking dense are you?
yatter1 3 months ago
@Helptheherd "atheism is stupid" day made. i read that as "USING YOUR SKILLS OF DEDUCTION AND REASON IS SO DUMB AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
awesomoh4000 3 months ago
@awesomoh4000 yea definitely
God bless
Helptheherd 3 months ago
@Helptheherd yee
awesomoh4000 3 months ago
I always get a chuckle when christian's say "I used to be an atheist... ". It's like they are trying to give themselves some street cred.
GawdOfThunder 3 months ago 2
I'd still be an atheist if there was no theory of evolution
skaworld509 4 months ago 44
@skaworld509
I m sorry I saw your comment, but what has the theory of evolution got to do with God.
I m not religious, i dont see the link, between God & Evolution.
Please explain it to me, again I,m not religious. would love to hear your reply.
This is not a debate, just friendly discussion.
scientistable 2 months ago
@scientistable sorry misunderstood your statement.
scientistable 2 months ago
"South Side of Chicago"?!
johnakni 4 months ago
Trying to win over this crowd, lol yeh some job, they just read their little prayers and don't actually study something so big that they stand so strong in,
lockoshamface 4 months ago
there cannot be any evidence of a super-natural being - if there was it would be "natural"
IlRezzonico 4 months ago
@There re any creeds, and they can't all be true, but it doesn't mean that none of them are true' -
Why can't they all be true if any of them are true? It's a matter of taste!
sionnyn 4 months ago
Dawkins rocks!!!
skateyuk 4 months ago 30
The man on the right who disagrees with Dawkins reminds me of the "stapler" guy from office space haha
GotZest 4 months ago
"Something can't come from nothing". A poor argument from the religious community. An atheist can easily ask back, where did God come from then? Who created Him?
Seriously, on what basis is that statement, 'something must not come from nothing'? That rule only applies on Earth. There has never been an experiment of conservation of energy in other parts of universe, or outside of the universe for that matter. Things might act differently there...
kerayzey 4 months ago
God is racist.
VictoriaElizaLee 4 months ago
I started off watching Jimmy Carr...How did I end up here
folic4luv28 4 months ago 3
@folic4luv28 You ended up here because you probably watched the Jimmy Carr clip from when he was on the Late Late show, which is the same show as the one in this clip. Jimmy Carr also talks about atheism whilst on the Late Late show, which again relates the two clips I'm thinking of, and Jimmy Carr mentions the books written by Richard Dawkins in the other clip. This would have led to this clip being suggested to you, should you have watched Jimmy Carr on the late late show.
aabcdeefyt 4 months ago
Dawkins is the man, or as we say in Ireland, he's a fucking legend
Etcher 4 months ago
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JungleJargon 4 months ago
It's refreshing to finally watch a Dawkins debate where the religious side is respectful and open to discussion.
TheEdgehead31 4 months ago
@TheEdgehead31 I spoke too soon. He is is mind boggling ridiculous in Part 3
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lol at the beginning when the guy is like "so dawkins, all these people are deluded?"
lol its hard for dawkins to be like yes you're all illogical and unreasonable in your belief. almost to the point where i thought he wasnt gonna say well..yes.. lol.. but then again he isn't the type to lie about whats on his mind he doesn't care how many people oppose him and he came up with such a good answer lol .."i fear that's right" lol man im not an atheist but dawkins is the nuts! (meaning the best)
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lightandbeautiful 4 months ago
The universe is mathematics and therefor is self explanatory. Case closed.
phunkaddikt 4 months ago