Perfect example the atheist worldview is irrational it cannot consistently provide the precondition for intelligible experience. Science logic or morality. The Atheist world view cannot allow for laws of logic uniformity of nature. The ability for the mind to understand the world and moral absolutes.
@ryantheatheist22 Atheists are so stupid when they drop meaningless, unsupported insults with any attempt to justify them or offer a rebuttal of any sort.
@Gericho49 Well, I would explain, but you're probably a Christian. So hence, there's no logical thinking within you.. So, you just keep believing fairy tales and I'll live in reality. :)
@ryantheatheist22 Like I said (some) "atheists are even more stupid when they(continue to) drop meaningless, unsupported insults without any attempt to justify them or offer a rebuttal of any sort." Go visit my videos & debate me on their content. BTW insults, profanities and unsupported opinions are not forms of argumentation. Some might even say they are the 1st sign of intellectual impotence
its scary that he can account for the immaterial law of logic in our material world on 5:55. He embodies Agnosticism. His worldview keeps him form clearly UNDERSTANDING logic... that's creepy to me.
Theist: Is it merely wrong according to people's opinions, or is it absolutely wrong regardless of other people's opinions?
Atheist: I think we might have to go to merely wrong regardless of other peoples opinions because of other cultures where they do not consider it to be wrong.
Theist: How is it "merely wrong regardless of people's opinions"?
Atheist: I didn't say it was merely wrong regardless of other people's opinions.
This Atheist is an example of what happens to your mind when you try to deny God.
Rom 1:21 "For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened."
MINUTE 5:29 HE FINALLY ADMITS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE ATHIEST GETS OWNED...AND CONTINUES TO BE SQUEEMISH...AND CONTINUES TO AOVOID GOD AND OPPRESS TRUTH THROUGH LOGICAL ARGUMENT
its so obvious that the guy on the right is now lost in his whole foundation of logic of which he started with.
The guy on the left, however, is keeping his composure very well and not avoiding questions like the other guy. Its more entertaining to watch the guy on the left get nervous by looking at other people for help and drinking his water non-stop than to make sense of this whole debate! LOL
This is the craziest, most unrational conversation I ever did hear!!! Atheist just wanted to hear hisself talk and did contradict hisself over and over!
but is'nt that just what atheists do???!!!
He did'nt have a chance anyway with an intelectual, intelligent Christian! GOD Bless you Chad~
Smart christian right there. Both are really smart. But the atheist seemed to be an angry person. I hope that he got some clarification on the existence of god.
you can actually both have a 20 dollar bill in your wallet and not at the same time. Its all relative. If I have a 20 dollar fake bill in my pocket some people might accept that as a 20 dollar bill since they cant tell the difference, so in that sense, I have a 20 dolalr bill in my pocket. But If i take it to a bank teller and ask them to deposit it, they might see that its fake and thus not accept it as a 20 dollar bill.
@JesusforLife2 its not an illusion, it depends on who you ask. It would work with a real dollar bill as well.Let say you have taped a real 20 dollar bill together. Not everybody would accept this as payment which would mean that in certain instances, you dont have a 20 dollar bill in your wallet.
If there is no absolute wrong or no absolute right, then war in general is not absolutely morally wrong. If someone says that's true, it means that person is fine with war. However, if someone says that is not true, meaning that war IS absolutely morally wrong, then they see lack of absolutes as a major cause for war. Thumbs up if you believe the second position and if you want, tell us why. Thanks.
i love this Christian guy, he knows what he is talking about, Good job man, and god Bless ya. Some people need to learn more before setting cameras and making themselves look foolish.
@tigergirl401 Uh no, he has no idea what he's taking about, he's calling his "world view" bizarre, as if his "world view" is any less bizarre to ppl who aren't Christians, which is 67% of the world, ppl can't keep there beliefs to themselves, kind of like this idiot who stands around preaching because apparently he has to be in every1's business about what they believe, half of this convo is completely stupid, it's arguing for the sake of arguing, he DEFINITELY "knows what he's talking about"
@tigergirl401 Great response, really answered a lot, no just kidding, all you did was state exactly what you just said and added nothing to the conversation, typical to say the least, maybe one day you'll get it, and who knows, might be a bit more rational and educated? But no you support the guy who's preaching iron age logic because he supports you're belief system, congratulations, you are a typical religious nutjob
@BARNEYRAPEDME69 Oh nononono. No such thing as iron age logic. You use the same logical principles today as were discovered by the ancient Greeks. Nothing changed. It's funny how you think a little bit of technology and education makes you wiser when all it did was make you lazier and more arrogant.
@M3PanoS LMAO right, so stoning people to death and torturing people is the same logical thing to do now as it as back then? You're telling me the only difference is education and technology? my god you are retarded. You wonder why the church isn't in most governments and laws, it's because it's ILLOGICAL to do, for someone who talks about education you clearly have got very little out of school, oh nononono yeah why don't you find out what you're blabling about before not looking like an idiot
@BARNEYRAPEDME69 Dude your false caricatures are truly stupendous. No, it was illogical back then just like it is now... *sigh* Relax with the strawman lol. My education hasn't failed me because I haven't started learning merely in the past few years.
I wonder how long ago it was that you truly became interested in education...probably whenever it clicked in your head that for some arbitrary reason it was cool because judging by your sentence structure, you haven't valued it for very long...
@M3PanoS Right right right, Actually no, there was no such things as civil rights, and the "law" was completely inadequate because the church controlled everything, saying "uhhh no" doesn't answer anything, good try? i guess?
@M3PanoS Lol judging by my sentence structure? that's you're comeback attacking my grammar? really? lol wow really original man, No I just don't give a shit considering I'm not typing anything important I'm typing a response on youtube for christ's sake, But oh no! God forbid I don't have correct sentence structure LMAO seriously be original you idiot
@M3PanoS Well considering there is more then one form of government you would have to be specific in saying which laws and ideals you are talking about. Just because laws were set in place doesn't mean it was a flawless system or even close to one, a lot of civilizations, especially prominent ones had primitive ways of dealing with things
@M3PanoS Hahaha you honestly think there is a simple answer to that question well if you think it's through religion or the bible then you are clearly mistaken, the most basic answer I can give is that it's hardwired into us, saying it's through some God or something is entirely ridiculous, you seriously think the inquisition was moral? No, obviously not, asking me that kind of question like I have a solid answer for it is entirely ridiculous, What makes God moral? can you answer that? clearly
@M3PanoS I don't have any answers? Are you fucking kidding me? I have answered every single question you have, and you in return have answered nothing, and then when I state that you aren't doing anything besides questioning me you decide to leave, seriously how much of a fucking pussy are you? Because I have no way of answering how morals came about you ignorantly state "duhhh God did it" and suddenly you win the argument? Wow you really are a deluded moron, yeah peace, have a nice life you
@BARNEYRAPEDME69 Huh? I never tried answering any of your questions, and I am not going to. I was merely asking you questions and seeing how you responded.
@M3PanoS you ignorant moron, oh and thanks for answering my question on why God is/isn't moral, and you said I don't have any of the answers? Nice logic dumb ass, you wonder why people laugh at religious people, it's because people like you represent them.
@BARNEYRAPEDME69 And btw, looking back at the comments, I notice I never said anything about God, so I don't know where you got that from either... o.O
@M3PanoS Oh right, you're not answering anything because you're a pussy and want to act like you won the argument or something, right, have fun with that logic you idiot
@BARNEYRAPEDME69 Lol I never claimed to win anything as I didn't even know we were competing. I was just trying to find out what you thought about some of the topics brought up...
@M3PanoS And how about you actually respond to what I am saying besides just keep asking me pointless and baseless questions, you're avoiding everything I'm saying and just continuing on this question barrage as if this is a two sided conversation, which it isn't in any way
@BARNEYRAPEDME69 well what exactly did you want me to explain , because if from the video you did not get what logic is and where it comes from. I cant really help you, but if you some kind of question you want answered you have to state it.
@tigergirl401 The problem for atheists who say they just "lack belief in God" is they have never,ever thought about what a material worldview actually is. It means believing that matter & energy is the only game in town, that matter must have always existed (despite the logical absurdity of an infinite regression of past finite events) It means believing our finite rationally intelligible, abstract law-abiding, fined tuned, life-permitting universe came about by chance.
The absurdity of atheist morality is typified by atheist philosopher Peter Singer who says children should be bred as organ donors since it would promote the survival of our species.
In our heart of hearts we all know deep down certain acts are always wrong, but if ur just 'a bunch of selfish genes fighting for survival in a world of pitiless indifference" who could complain? In a morally bankrupt world, the golden rule has become "do unto others before they do it to you"!
I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. You can live in a fantasy world for only so long. Either the laws of the universe are true or they are false. They can't be both.
Looks to me that the athiest came to the Christians spot to contradict Christ, but got smashed by their own contradictions. Back up athiest because where ever a Christian stands in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, is Holy ground.
This debate was like watching a 25yr old college graduated adult out talk a 19yr old kid working on getting his GED. 19yr old kid could be right as rain, but can't organize his argument or put up a solid fight vs someone more asute at debates.
@seventhsamurai1999 I do take offense to that comment. I HAD to get my GED due to me having panic attacks from stupid humans around me. Yet, i'm still smarter then 90% of the people around me (thank you IQ system)
Think better before you say anything that might be offensive, because someone might say something that will come back to you. Like here, disproving you and disagreeing with you..
I love how the CHRISTIAN bigot is bitching for the atheist to provide facts and logic meanwhile this man parades his BIBLE everywhere expecting us to believe that a woman was made from the rib of a man made of dirt. Reading the bible is about as intellectually fortifying as reading the Chronicles of Narnia. They're comparably the same bull.
The Bible is entirely hearsay. No one that wrote the Bible was around and scribbling down exactly what Jesus said. It is like a game of Telephone, really.
@prolifebuttonsDOTcom Hah, yes. Bigot: a person, a belligerent being, intolerant of any other belief. He continually interrupts the Atheist when he is just trying to answer his question. All "preachers" do this. Everywhere I've seen. Because they don't want people to even have a solid chance at disproving the bullshit they are spewing at the listeners.
@ohcaramaria Uh, if they want to molest my cousin you can be 100% sure that I would be intolerant of their belief. The only reason he cuts him off continually is because the atheist likes to talk but he doesn't make any sense. If you let him he would talk for hours...still no point.
"lack of belief" is a silly statement. you "don't believe in God," you don't simply lack believe. you actually DONT BELIEVE and that is a position. you are simply trying to avoid having to defend your position, so you try to say that you just lack belief. that is a fallacy. to "lack belief" is to disbelieve. you either do believe, or do not believe. lacking belief is, at best a chicken way of looking at the world and not having to defend your view, at worst, it is lying
It's funny how he is tryint o change the subject.. he knows your right and hes trying to back it up with rediculous crap. Haha! Christian WON!! GO CHRISTIAN!!
everyone please notice, that first anonazero first told me not to "borrow" from his worldview, then he says I "talked" about his worldview as if he has some kind of victory in saying this. also, he will not tell me where my arguement is circular as he has accused me of being, I have answered his question, he has yet to answer mine
@anonazero Im not throwing a fit, I answered ur question, I have yet to hear u answer mine. and u act like I havent answered it. where did I not defend my arguement? Im certain I answered ur questions.
Professing themselves to be wise they became fools... I feel for this guy, he knows the truth, he just doesn't realise that there is forgiveness and freedom in Christ.
... Is raping wrong because your god says so? or does your god say so because it's wrong? if it's the first, then it's only subjectively wrong to your authority figure. if it's the second, then your god has nothing to do with whether something is right or wrong and does not account for it.
The theist could stop playing his word games and just cut to the chase and prove his particular god is real, but he can't prove it, so he continues with word games and avoids the responsibility (which is on HIS shoulders) to prove his particular god exists. My guess is he never will.
The guy on the left is just trying to provoke. He knows hes wrong but if he can make it appear hes right by silencing you then there is no longer a contradiction.
You might as well be interviewing a stuffed animal with playback sounds.
@Uaz31 Paul tells us that we are to vigorously contend for the faith,so what the Christian guy is doing is keeping the guy from making speeches and going down rabbit trails.So keeping someone on track in a debate is a common practice that has nothing to do with not being humble or not.We are all to fight against falsehood.
Bullshit. Hes being disrespectful and rude. He may be right but let people express their own views, its important. You can't force an opinion on anyone. This guy most likely walked away with a disgust for christianity. He did a diservice
@Uaz31 Hum,you must be an atheist?Well,when someone wants to dodge a question then they change the subject and another thing,there is nothing a man can do to keep someone from being saved if God wants to save them,Jesus chooses us,we don't chooses Him.Witnessing to the world is ordained by God as a way to bring His people to Jesus,however He really doesn't need us,He just chose the means and blesses the means as well as the ends.This is called "reasoning together". Watch some debates sometimes.
Um..no Im a Christian and I got to say I thought the man on the right was the christian until the very end of the interview, why? Because He acted more respectful.
@Uaz31 Chad is completely right,Atheists have no reason to hold to any morality unless they borrow a Christian world view,because in naturalism there is no right or wrong,good or evil.Animals don't look at anything as disgusting or evil,they just look at it as Satanists do,Do as thou will is the whole of the law or as NIKE said it,JUST DO IT!
@Uaz31 Watch some debates ,people who try to make speeches or go down rabbit trails are always stopped and brought back to the subject,since no mediator was present someone had to keep the debate on track.Chad wasn't being rude,he was being assertive.
Debates is just another word for argueing. Its pointless. You cannot bring anyone to salvation in Christ, thats God's job.
Just being assertive? Oh ok so if I hit you over the head with a hammer until you say uncle thats ok because im just being assertive. Go read your Bible.
@Uaz31 The Bible says we are to contend for the faith,look up the word"contend",I hear Mr. Webster wrote a pretty good dictionary.Fighters contend for a prize just as Christians contend for the faith.Maybe you need to read your Bible,eh?
Contend doesn't mean to argue or be assertive to the point where your cramming your point of view down someones throat. I suggest you read the context of your Bible quotes more carefully.
He could have hid the 20 dollar bill as he put it in so no its not absolute that he has it in his wallet. There is also the "law" of lying in order to make it appear you are right.
Let me pretend to put this money in my wallet and then you can say its absolute that its in there when its not and you would then be wrong.
@Uaz31 yes he could have hid the $20 but that doesnt mean that there is no absolute. that would indicate that ones perception at the time would not be absolute but under further investigation the absolute of where the $20 could be varified.
@Uaz31 it is not an absolute that it would be in the wallet in the sence there isnt an eternal law that would undeniably determine it would be there since God has given free will but i dont think thats hat was meant by "absolute". i think what was meant was that its absolutely true or absolutely false (depending if the persdon tricked the other as u suggested) if its in the wallet.
@StopFear athesits dont have a book calling them to be humble. christians are generally big hypocirtes and that without conscience as demonstrated here. you use other peoples actions to justify behavior that is not christlike. way to go. m
He frustrates the plans of schemers so the work of their hands will not succeed. He traps the wise in their own cleverness so their cunning schemes are thwarted (Job 5:12-13)
This is the truth: rejecting God leads to foolish thinking. Any atheist (or any nonbeliever) will ultimately be reduced to utter ignorance in their thoughts. This is a perfect example. This needs to be shown to the public more often. Atheists don't have answers, Christians do. Spread the Good News!
dude, i've been lolling my head off. the pompous arrogance of the agnostic and absolute refusal to answer the simplest questions possible regarding logic.
the guy's attitude is what makes him look like such a joke.
@anonazero The christian is a jackass that just wants to spew his talking points and not have a conversation and hear this mans perspective, even though I don't particularly agree with him on everything.
@mathmexican4234 despite the fact that the atheist does what you accuse the christian of? the christian has a reason to give the truth even if you disagree with that reason and that truth. the atheist just wants to rag on the christian.
@anonazero I'm sure there is probably an instance where he interrupts, but the overwhelming majority of the occurrence of interruptions are from the Christian. You can call it 'giving the truth' all you want. It makes him seem less interested in discussion and more interested in giving out his shpeel. The agnostic/atheist/whatever he is at least seems interested in a discourse even though of course he obviously disagrees with the Christian.
@mathmexican4234 i've had countless discussions with atheists where they argue the simplest things. i like to ask atheists to quantify the trust they have for the chair they sit in. they'll might even give data about WHY they trust that chair but i've yet to hear anyone tell me how many inches or ftlbs of trust they have for their chair. at this point the guy can either cop to the fact that somethings cannot be measured or lie and say he has no trust/faith (as if trust/faith requires ignorance).
@mathmexican4234 the people accusing christians of talking in circles are usually (in my experience) having to be hounded back to using logic instead of emotional appeal or any number of other logical fallacies.
the guy basically plugged his ears and said lalalala because actually answering the questions according to logic and reason would paint him into a corner.
@anonazero I'm accusing the Christian of having the intention of spewing a shtick instead of having a genuine interest in listening to what the other guy has to say, which is demonstrated through his countless interruptions to make his points. I by no means agree with everything this guy is saying, and I have no idea about your experiences or other discussions you've seen; I'm talking about this one that we've all just seen.
@anonazero lol so if you let someone speak for a while a couple times during an hour you become instantly interested in a discussion and the entire time you interrupt and do your shtick can be overlooked? lol ok sure, whatever you say
@mathmexican4234 despite the fact that the christian kept asking the atheist to logically explain why he was denying the law of non-contradiction... and the atheist kept floundering on, being a condescending jerk, and dodging everything.
the guy was refuting the very foundation of reason itself... and then claiming to be a skeptic.
@anonazero You can frame it that way all you like, but there's a better way to push a person to be more straight forward in answering instead of cutting them off and interrupting constantly to get an answer to continue the path he wants. That's not what you do when you are interested in where he's coming from and having a dialogue. Like I said, I don't particularly agree with all that guys positions or his attitude particularly, but that's my opinion of the Christian in this video.
@mathmexican4234 "shtick"? i just see the one guy (regardless of theistic beliefs) trying to steer the other guy back to the problem that they simply can't overcome about "logic" which is the foundation of any further speaking....otherwise they would just be spewing words with no foundation to meaning (wasting time).
@anonazero its too bad presupp Christians just want to make people feel stupid with their reductio ad absurdum arguements and then ram their subjective worldview down people's throats...thats what is too bad.
@anonazero yeah Im a fanboy, Dawson is the heavyweight skeptic that has never been refuted by a presupp lacking logic ....funny how u dont address ne thing I said and jump right to name dropping
@actionjackson864 you didn't say anything other than the guy was some kind of killer skeptic.... which i commented on. is dawson the arrogant snooty guy that can't give a straight answer to save his life? i hope not because he doesn't appear to be a skeptic at all.
@anonazero lol uve got it all wrong read any post by him its as straight forward as it gets, if its not, why dont u go tell him where he's wrong? isnt it your duty as an apologist to assert your worldview as the only possiblity for truth to exist? sounds likee ur not doing a very good job. I'll be happy to answer any of your questions to the best of my ability
Perfect example the atheist worldview is irrational it cannot consistently provide the precondition for intelligible experience. Science logic or morality. The Atheist world view cannot allow for laws of logic uniformity of nature. The ability for the mind to understand the world and moral absolutes.
NJCHRISTIANMALE777 3 days ago
Dude... can you train me in this apologetic? lol
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WOW !!! CREATION PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID !!! LOL...
ryantheatheist22 1 month ago
@ryantheatheist22 Atheists are so stupid when they drop meaningless, unsupported insults with any attempt to justify them or offer a rebuttal of any sort.
Gericho49 3 weeks ago
@Gericho49 Well, I would explain, but you're probably a Christian. So hence, there's no logical thinking within you.. So, you just keep believing fairy tales and I'll live in reality. :)
ryantheatheist22 3 weeks ago
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@ryantheatheist22 Like I said (some) "atheists are even more stupid when they(continue to) drop meaningless, unsupported insults without any attempt to justify them or offer a rebuttal of any sort." Go visit my videos & debate me on their content. BTW insults, profanities and unsupported opinions are not forms of argumentation. Some might even say they are the 1st sign of intellectual impotence
You take care (God does)
Gericho49 3 weeks ago
its scary that he can account for the immaterial law of logic in our material world on 5:55. He embodies Agnosticism. His worldview keeps him form clearly UNDERSTANDING logic... that's creepy to me.
OrangeRatio 1 month ago
To "I have a problem with you interrupting me" he should have said "You don't have a problem with me interrupting you"
steveoho 1 month ago
Making a point by being a jerk :)
steveoho 1 month ago
Theist: Is it merely wrong according to people's opinions, or is it absolutely wrong regardless of other people's opinions?
Atheist: I think we might have to go to merely wrong regardless of other peoples opinions because of other cultures where they do not consider it to be wrong.
Theist: How is it "merely wrong regardless of people's opinions"?
Atheist: I didn't say it was merely wrong regardless of other people's opinions.
Idiocracy...nuff said.
Yaddrasile 2 months ago
This Atheist is an example of what happens to your mind when you try to deny God.
Rom 1:21 "For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened."
INTJ22 4 months ago
he do'se realies that his bible his holy book contradicts it's self over and over aand over agian
Honyi1 4 months ago
i'm confused. Who's the atheist guy here? the one with the sun glasses? or the one who hold the mic?
amzngone1 5 months ago
@amzngone1
I'm not sure. Neither of them has mentioned Jesus in the last three 15 minute videos...
Just dead cats, five dollar bills, getting hit by trucks, etc...
Way to be a witness... I hope he mentions Jesus by the last video.
greyspot00 3 months ago
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amzngone1 5 months ago
I had to stop watching this the moment it gets going. The atheist dude is done. He got stump already in the last video.
Vainslain 6 months ago
MINUTE 5:29 HE FINALLY ADMITS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE ATHIEST GETS OWNED...AND CONTINUES TO BE SQUEEMISH...AND CONTINUES TO AOVOID GOD AND OPPRESS TRUTH THROUGH LOGICAL ARGUMENT
Ps3vinni 7 months ago
its so obvious that the guy on the right is now lost in his whole foundation of logic of which he started with.
The guy on the left, however, is keeping his composure very well and not avoiding questions like the other guy. Its more entertaining to watch the guy on the left get nervous by looking at other people for help and drinking his water non-stop than to make sense of this whole debate! LOL
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The atheist does not know what he is talking about,
11bravo1infantry 7 months ago
omg rationalresponder never shuts up. i dont care if you want to open your mouth. just close it for 5 minutes to let someone talk.
Schutzstaffel23 7 months ago
WTF is this? These guys are goofy.
Airmanf7 8 months ago
Lol there's no way that atheist posted this video up to his blog, whatever...
M3PanoS 8 months ago
hahaha oh man it starts getting really bad for the atheist to now agnostic at 5:00
xchampx 10 months ago
This is a real debate. There are no time constraints. Great job rationalresponder!
xchampx 10 months ago
Thumbs up if you think the dude in the black is right!
MinorCheese777 10 months ago
@ minute 2:00 i couldn't stop laughing at how smart chad is lol he had him speechless!
nightmare187able 10 months ago
This is the craziest, most unrational conversation I ever did hear!!! Atheist just wanted to hear hisself talk and did contradict hisself over and over!
but is'nt that just what atheists do???!!!
He did'nt have a chance anyway with an intelectual, intelligent Christian! GOD Bless you Chad~
Linda4Yeshua 11 months ago
The presuppositionalist should stop commenting and stay on topic.
KBennett77 11 months ago
SUCH STUPID ATHEIST
jcrssii 11 months ago
This atheist just cant understand 101 presuppositionalism.
Childinfaith 11 months ago
"Neither one of us are right!" I wonder if that's right lol
Jayoung1000 1 year ago
@Jayoung1000 By him saying that, that means he is right!
MinorCheese777 10 months ago
love how this video is full of stupid christians thinking the mexican guy made a point.
amierdolo 1 year ago
Smoooooth at minute 3, Nice!
ArginGerigorian 1 year ago
Smart christian right there. Both are really smart. But the atheist seemed to be an angry person. I hope that he got some clarification on the existence of god.
AaronTrutsJC 1 year ago
you can actually both have a 20 dollar bill in your wallet and not at the same time. Its all relative. If I have a 20 dollar fake bill in my pocket some people might accept that as a 20 dollar bill since they cant tell the difference, so in that sense, I have a 20 dolalr bill in my pocket. But If i take it to a bank teller and ask them to deposit it, they might see that its fake and thus not accept it as a 20 dollar bill.
BADA BING
henrikstaaf 1 year ago
@henrikstaaf The illusion of of falsity = falsity? Wow.......
JesusforLife2 1 year ago
@JesusforLife2 its not an illusion, it depends on who you ask. It would work with a real dollar bill as well.Let say you have taped a real 20 dollar bill together. Not everybody would accept this as payment which would mean that in certain instances, you dont have a 20 dollar bill in your wallet.
henrikstaaf 1 year ago
@henrikstaaf .....
JesusforLife2 1 year ago
This was the best athiest demolition conversation I have ever seen. Praise GOD!
bornagain3377 1 year ago
I do like to say to relativists 'Is there a such thing as absolutes?" They say no. I say "Are you absolutely sure".
BenjaminWirtz 1 year ago
Most atheists say that theists are irrational but this guy went about an hour without accepting a rational and simple law of logic.
ADAJ3 1 year ago
If there is no absolute wrong or no absolute right, then war in general is not absolutely morally wrong. If someone says that's true, it means that person is fine with war. However, if someone says that is not true, meaning that war IS absolutely morally wrong, then they see lack of absolutes as a major cause for war. Thumbs up if you believe the second position and if you want, tell us why. Thanks.
flotopo 1 year ago
@flotopo subjective morality is like the sceptic who says, "there's no such thing as absolute truth." And he believes that absolutely.
Gericho49 3 weeks ago
i love this Christian guy, he knows what he is talking about, Good job man, and god Bless ya. Some people need to learn more before setting cameras and making themselves look foolish.
tigergirl401 1 year ago 27
@tigergirl401 Uh no, he has no idea what he's taking about, he's calling his "world view" bizarre, as if his "world view" is any less bizarre to ppl who aren't Christians, which is 67% of the world, ppl can't keep there beliefs to themselves, kind of like this idiot who stands around preaching because apparently he has to be in every1's business about what they believe, half of this convo is completely stupid, it's arguing for the sake of arguing, he DEFINITELY "knows what he's talking about"
BARNEYRAPEDME69 9 months ago
@BARNEYRAPEDME69 All i can say to you , is ONE DAY YOU WILL GET IT
tigergirl401 8 months ago
@tigergirl401 Great response, really answered a lot, no just kidding, all you did was state exactly what you just said and added nothing to the conversation, typical to say the least, maybe one day you'll get it, and who knows, might be a bit more rational and educated? But no you support the guy who's preaching iron age logic because he supports you're belief system, congratulations, you are a typical religious nutjob
BARNEYRAPEDME69 8 months ago
@BARNEYRAPEDME69 Oh nononono. No such thing as iron age logic. You use the same logical principles today as were discovered by the ancient Greeks. Nothing changed. It's funny how you think a little bit of technology and education makes you wiser when all it did was make you lazier and more arrogant.
M3PanoS 8 months ago
@M3PanoS LMAO right, so stoning people to death and torturing people is the same logical thing to do now as it as back then? You're telling me the only difference is education and technology? my god you are retarded. You wonder why the church isn't in most governments and laws, it's because it's ILLOGICAL to do, for someone who talks about education you clearly have got very little out of school, oh nononono yeah why don't you find out what you're blabling about before not looking like an idiot
BARNEYRAPEDME69 8 months ago
@BARNEYRAPEDME69 Dude your false caricatures are truly stupendous. No, it was illogical back then just like it is now... *sigh* Relax with the strawman lol. My education hasn't failed me because I haven't started learning merely in the past few years.
I wonder how long ago it was that you truly became interested in education...probably whenever it clicked in your head that for some arbitrary reason it was cool because judging by your sentence structure, you haven't valued it for very long...
M3PanoS 8 months ago
@M3PanoS Right right right, Actually no, there was no such things as civil rights, and the "law" was completely inadequate because the church controlled everything, saying "uhhh no" doesn't answer anything, good try? i guess?
BARNEYRAPEDME69 8 months ago
@M3PanoS Lol judging by my sentence structure? that's you're comeback attacking my grammar? really? lol wow really original man, No I just don't give a shit considering I'm not typing anything important I'm typing a response on youtube for christ's sake, But oh no! God forbid I don't have correct sentence structure LMAO seriously be original you idiot
BARNEYRAPEDME69 8 months ago
@BARNEYRAPEDME69 Well at least you admit your sentence structure was off. :P
I wonder, where do you think our laws and ideals of justice came from... o.O
M3PanoS 8 months ago
@M3PanoS Well considering there is more then one form of government you would have to be specific in saying which laws and ideals you are talking about. Just because laws were set in place doesn't mean it was a flawless system or even close to one, a lot of civilizations, especially prominent ones had primitive ways of dealing with things
BARNEYRAPEDME69 8 months ago
@BARNEYRAPEDME69 How did eastern civilizations develop their ideas of law, morality, etc...
M3PanoS 8 months ago
@M3PanoS Hahaha you honestly think there is a simple answer to that question well if you think it's through religion or the bible then you are clearly mistaken, the most basic answer I can give is that it's hardwired into us, saying it's through some God or something is entirely ridiculous, you seriously think the inquisition was moral? No, obviously not, asking me that kind of question like I have a solid answer for it is entirely ridiculous, What makes God moral? can you answer that? clearly
BARNEYRAPEDME69 8 months ago
@BARNEYRAPEDME69 lol alright apparently you don't have any answers so i'll stop questioning you. and i think you meant 1 sided conversation, no?
peace dude. :P
M3PanoS 8 months ago
@M3PanoS I don't have any answers? Are you fucking kidding me? I have answered every single question you have, and you in return have answered nothing, and then when I state that you aren't doing anything besides questioning me you decide to leave, seriously how much of a fucking pussy are you? Because I have no way of answering how morals came about you ignorantly state "duhhh God did it" and suddenly you win the argument? Wow you really are a deluded moron, yeah peace, have a nice life you
BARNEYRAPEDME69 8 months ago
@BARNEYRAPEDME69 Huh? I never tried answering any of your questions, and I am not going to. I was merely asking you questions and seeing how you responded.
M3PanoS 8 months ago
@M3PanoS you ignorant moron, oh and thanks for answering my question on why God is/isn't moral, and you said I don't have any of the answers? Nice logic dumb ass, you wonder why people laugh at religious people, it's because people like you represent them.
BARNEYRAPEDME69 8 months ago
@BARNEYRAPEDME69 And btw, looking back at the comments, I notice I never said anything about God, so I don't know where you got that from either... o.O
M3PanoS 8 months ago
@M3PanoS Oh right, you're not answering anything because you're a pussy and want to act like you won the argument or something, right, have fun with that logic you idiot
BARNEYRAPEDME69 8 months ago
@BARNEYRAPEDME69 Lol I never claimed to win anything as I didn't even know we were competing. I was just trying to find out what you thought about some of the topics brought up...
M3PanoS 8 months ago
@M3PanoS not, so asking questions on morality is pointless
BARNEYRAPEDME69 8 months ago
@M3PanoS And how about you actually respond to what I am saying besides just keep asking me pointless and baseless questions, you're avoiding everything I'm saying and just continuing on this question barrage as if this is a two sided conversation, which it isn't in any way
BARNEYRAPEDME69 8 months ago
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@BARNEYRAPEDME69 well what exactly did you want me to explain , because if from the video you did not get what logic is and where it comes from. I cant really help you, but if you some kind of question you want answered you have to state it.
tigergirl401 8 months ago
@BARNEYRAPEDME69 Well maybe if you were more educated on why he is doing that, you wouldn't be even saying this to me :)
tigergirl401 1 week ago
@tigergirl401 The problem for atheists who say they just "lack belief in God" is they have never,ever thought about what a material worldview actually is. It means believing that matter & energy is the only game in town, that matter must have always existed (despite the logical absurdity of an infinite regression of past finite events) It means believing our finite rationally intelligible, abstract law-abiding, fined tuned, life-permitting universe came about by chance.
Gericho49 3 weeks ago
cont'd.
The absurdity of atheist morality is typified by atheist philosopher Peter Singer who says children should be bred as organ donors since it would promote the survival of our species.
In our heart of hearts we all know deep down certain acts are always wrong, but if ur just 'a bunch of selfish genes fighting for survival in a world of pitiless indifference" who could complain? In a morally bankrupt world, the golden rule has become "do unto others before they do it to you"!
Gericho49 3 weeks ago
@Gericho49 Yeah and what are the chances of something sooo perfect coming into existence?
tigergirl401 1 week ago
I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. You can live in a fantasy world for only so long. Either the laws of the universe are true or they are false. They can't be both.
vidguy67 1 year ago
i'm an atheist, and i think the theist makes a point
WickedJargon 1 year ago
this atheist looks like he needs to take a pee, he's had a lot to drink already. What a disgrace. LOL
shayneby 1 year ago
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shayneby 1 year ago
LOL!!!!!
This atheist is insane!!!
PheonixHeart1974 1 year ago 14
OMGosh this is too much, around and round we go... Great video series, thanks for posting this!
FranksTechHelp 1 year ago
Raping babies subjectively wrong??????!!!!!!!!!!!EVIL!!THIS BELIEF SYSTEM PREPARES THEM FOR THE ANTI-CHRIST WELL!!!EVIL
Justasimpleservant 1 year ago
Looks to me that the athiest came to the Christians spot to contradict Christ, but got smashed by their own contradictions. Back up athiest because where ever a Christian stands in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, is Holy ground.
yralm07 1 year ago
This debate was like watching a 25yr old college graduated adult out talk a 19yr old kid working on getting his GED. 19yr old kid could be right as rain, but can't organize his argument or put up a solid fight vs someone more asute at debates.
seventhsamurai1999 1 year ago
@seventhsamurai1999 I do take offense to that comment. I HAD to get my GED due to me having panic attacks from stupid humans around me. Yet, i'm still smarter then 90% of the people around me (thank you IQ system)
Think better before you say anything that might be offensive, because someone might say something that will come back to you. Like here, disproving you and disagreeing with you..
Inuyashapaladin717 1 year ago
I love how the CHRISTIAN bigot is bitching for the atheist to provide facts and logic meanwhile this man parades his BIBLE everywhere expecting us to believe that a woman was made from the rib of a man made of dirt. Reading the bible is about as intellectually fortifying as reading the Chronicles of Narnia. They're comparably the same bull.
The Bible is entirely hearsay. No one that wrote the Bible was around and scribbling down exactly what Jesus said. It is like a game of Telephone, really.
ohcaramaria 1 year ago
@ohcaramaria How is the Christian a bigot? What did he say to make him a bigot? Do you even know the meaning of the word bigot?
prolifebuttonsDOTcom 1 year ago
@prolifebuttonsDOTcom Hah, yes. Bigot: a person, a belligerent being, intolerant of any other belief. He continually interrupts the Atheist when he is just trying to answer his question. All "preachers" do this. Everywhere I've seen. Because they don't want people to even have a solid chance at disproving the bullshit they are spewing at the listeners.
The holy roller needs to crawl back in his cave.
ohcaramaria 1 year ago
@ohcaramaria Uh, if they want to molest my cousin you can be 100% sure that I would be intolerant of their belief. The only reason he cuts him off continually is because the atheist likes to talk but he doesn't make any sense. If you let him he would talk for hours...still no point.
vidguy67 1 year ago
@vidguy67 Lol your cousin is the one with no point. The atheist doesnt even get a chance to prove his point.
ohcaramaria 1 year ago
@ohcaramaria He has no point.
vidguy67 1 year ago
@vidguy67 You're right. The christian has absolutely no point. Goodbye.
ohcaramaria 1 year ago
@ohcaramaria Yeah. That's exactly what I meant. I would be more than happy to engage in a debate with you. Just say when.
vidguy67 1 year ago
@vidguy67 Ahaha. No thanks. I've done enough of that in my time. No one's going to change my mind. ATHEIST FOR LIFE! :]
ohcaramaria 1 year ago
@ohcaramaria Suit yourself.
vidguy67 1 year ago
"lack of belief" is a silly statement. you "don't believe in God," you don't simply lack believe. you actually DONT BELIEVE and that is a position. you are simply trying to avoid having to defend your position, so you try to say that you just lack belief. that is a fallacy. to "lack belief" is to disbelieve. you either do believe, or do not believe. lacking belief is, at best a chicken way of looking at the world and not having to defend your view, at worst, it is lying
Follower172 1 year ago
I think the atheist made one of my favorite all time statments. "in my OBJECTIVE opinion, it is wrong." nuff said
Follower172 1 year ago
It's funny how he is tryint o change the subject.. he knows your right and hes trying to back it up with rediculous crap. Haha! Christian WON!! GO CHRISTIAN!!
jonahair747 1 year ago
@jonahair747 Go check out All Roads Ministry, Vin Lewis...he destroys argumentation utilizing this approach constantly. Lewis is a beast.
NotByBreadAlone77 1 year ago
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@NotByBreadAlone77 check out Dawson Bethrick of bahnsenburner.blogspot.com ...he DESTROYS presuppositionalism constantly.
actionjackson864 1 year ago
What is with the head snapping and affectations of the atheist? Strange.
Floatie114 1 year ago
Brilliant, sheer genious. God bless you and keep up the good work. :=) Jesus rules.
1justpara 1 year ago
everyone please notice, that first anonazero first told me not to "borrow" from his worldview, then he says I "talked" about his worldview as if he has some kind of victory in saying this. also, he will not tell me where my arguement is circular as he has accused me of being, I have answered his question, he has yet to answer mine
actionjackson864 1 year ago
@actionjackson864 LOL victory huh? maybe you should actually defend your argument instead of throwing a fit.
anonazero 1 year ago
@anonazero Im not throwing a fit, I answered ur question, I have yet to hear u answer mine. and u act like I havent answered it. where did I not defend my arguement? Im certain I answered ur questions.
actionjackson864 1 year ago
@actionjackson864 the comment to the class is a nice touch BTW. you should probably post it on your facebook, too.
anonazero 1 year ago
@anonazero glad u like it buddy! I dont have facespace so alas, I cannot post it there.
actionjackson864 1 year ago
...maybe he has another wallet at home that's empty...
...the tool with the glasses is pretty sharp...too bad he's a theist...
...the tool with the beard is laame...too bad he's an atheist...
compvm33 1 year ago
...maybe he has another wallet at home that's empty...
compvm33 1 year ago
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Professing themselves to be wise they became fools... I feel for this guy, he knows the truth, he just doesn't realise that there is forgiveness and freedom in Christ.
SERVANTofYHVH 1 year ago
... Is raping wrong because your god says so? or does your god say so because it's wrong? if it's the first, then it's only subjectively wrong to your authority figure. if it's the second, then your god has nothing to do with whether something is right or wrong and does not account for it.
mathmexican4234 1 year ago
HAHA WOW. We've got a master philosopher here
creationcenterTV 1 year ago
The theist could stop playing his word games and just cut to the chase and prove his particular god is real, but he can't prove it, so he continues with word games and avoids the responsibility (which is on HIS shoulders) to prove his particular god exists. My guess is he never will.
SubconsciousGatherer 1 year ago
That's funny at about 3 minutes, he states he could 'argue' that you it is possible that you couldn't technically have a logical argument.
Interesting, his opinion has no more value than any others' opinion, yet he seems to hold his own opinion higher than Chad's.
wpuymac 1 year ago
That's funny at about 3 minutes, he states he could 'argue' that you it is possible that you couldn't technically have a logical argument.
wpuymac 1 year ago
atheist fail
ArchangelCLK 1 year ago
The guy on the left is just trying to provoke. He knows hes wrong but if he can make it appear hes right by silencing you then there is no longer a contradiction.
You might as well be interviewing a stuffed animal with playback sounds.
Uaz31 1 year ago
@Uaz31 Paul tells us that we are to vigorously contend for the faith,so what the Christian guy is doing is keeping the guy from making speeches and going down rabbit trails.So keeping someone on track in a debate is a common practice that has nothing to do with not being humble or not.We are all to fight against falsehood.
CBALLEN 1 year ago
@CBALLEN
Bullshit. Hes being disrespectful and rude. He may be right but let people express their own views, its important. You can't force an opinion on anyone. This guy most likely walked away with a disgust for christianity. He did a diservice
Uaz31 1 year ago
@Uaz31 Hum,you must be an atheist?Well,when someone wants to dodge a question then they change the subject and another thing,there is nothing a man can do to keep someone from being saved if God wants to save them,Jesus chooses us,we don't chooses Him.Witnessing to the world is ordained by God as a way to bring His people to Jesus,however He really doesn't need us,He just chose the means and blesses the means as well as the ends.This is called "reasoning together". Watch some debates sometimes.
CBALLEN 1 year ago
@CBALLEN
Um..no Im a Christian and I got to say I thought the man on the right was the christian until the very end of the interview, why? Because He acted more respectful.
Uaz31 1 year ago
@Uaz31 Chad is completely right,Atheists have no reason to hold to any morality unless they borrow a Christian world view,because in naturalism there is no right or wrong,good or evil.Animals don't look at anything as disgusting or evil,they just look at it as Satanists do,Do as thou will is the whole of the law or as NIKE said it,JUST DO IT!
CBALLEN 1 year ago
@CBALLEN
Animals don't look at anything as disgusting or evil,they just look at it as Satanists do
I totally agree with that statement.
Uaz31 1 year ago
@Uaz31 Watch some debates ,people who try to make speeches or go down rabbit trails are always stopped and brought back to the subject,since no mediator was present someone had to keep the debate on track.Chad wasn't being rude,he was being assertive.
CBALLEN 1 year ago
@CBALLEN
Debates is just another word for argueing. Its pointless. You cannot bring anyone to salvation in Christ, thats God's job.
Just being assertive? Oh ok so if I hit you over the head with a hammer until you say uncle thats ok because im just being assertive. Go read your Bible.
Uaz31 1 year ago
@Uaz31 The Bible says we are to contend for the faith,look up the word"contend",I hear Mr. Webster wrote a pretty good dictionary.Fighters contend for a prize just as Christians contend for the faith.Maybe you need to read your Bible,eh?
CBALLEN 1 year ago
@CBALLEN
Contend doesn't mean to argue or be assertive to the point where your cramming your point of view down someones throat. I suggest you read the context of your Bible quotes more carefully.
Uaz31 1 year ago
@Uaz31 OK you win.
CBALLEN 1 year ago
@CBALLEN
Oh no you don't! You win..
Uaz31 1 year ago
He could have hid the 20 dollar bill as he put it in so no its not absolute that he has it in his wallet. There is also the "law" of lying in order to make it appear you are right.
Let me pretend to put this money in my wallet and then you can say its absolute that its in there when its not and you would then be wrong.
Uaz31 1 year ago
@Uaz31 all of what you are saying is addressed in the video(s). your *exact* argument was presented
lambchopxoxo 1 year ago
@Uaz31 yes he could have hid the $20 but that doesnt mean that there is no absolute. that would indicate that ones perception at the time would not be absolute but under further investigation the absolute of where the $20 could be varified.
Richard1979hush 1 year ago
In the same time and same "sense" you can have it and not have it. Because whether or not you came to have it is not absolute.
In the same time and place, no it would not be possible but whether or not you came to have it is possible. So your both right, get over it.
Uaz31 1 year ago
@Uaz31 it is not an absolute that it would be in the wallet in the sence there isnt an eternal law that would undeniably determine it would be there since God has given free will but i dont think thats hat was meant by "absolute". i think what was meant was that its absolutely true or absolutely false (depending if the persdon tricked the other as u suggested) if its in the wallet.
Richard1979hush 1 year ago
you know, it would be wise for christians to not get all arrogant over stuff like this in the comments section like they typically do.
lambchopxoxo 1 year ago
@lambchopxoxo
and atheists never write somewhat arrogant comments in comments of other videos?
StopFear 1 year ago
@StopFear athesits dont have a book calling them to be humble. christians are generally big hypocirtes and that without conscience as demonstrated here. you use other peoples actions to justify behavior that is not christlike. way to go. m
lambchopxoxo 1 year ago
@lambchopxoxo i as a Christian agree with you
Richard1979hush 1 year ago
@lambchopxoxo i as a Christian agree that Christians should not do that though im not saying thats how we typically are
Richard1979hush 1 year ago
He frustrates the plans of schemers so the work of their hands will not succeed. He traps the wise in their own cleverness so their cunning schemes are thwarted (Job 5:12-13)
dangitd 1 year ago
This is better than a Saturday Night Live Sketch. This athiest needs to shave, get a new haircut, change his shirt and never touch a mic again.
I want to make a shirt that says owned with the athiests face on it. I ll be pressing them and they ll be on sale for $19.99
mumswording 1 year ago
Wow this is an absolute pwnage for the Atheist guy!
RepentCaloocan 1 year ago
This is the truth: rejecting God leads to foolish thinking. Any atheist (or any nonbeliever) will ultimately be reduced to utter ignorance in their thoughts. This is a perfect example. This needs to be shown to the public more often. Atheists don't have answers, Christians do. Spread the Good News!
dougmoerhoffman 1 year ago
if i was the navy seal i would of beat the !@#$ out of that guy he thinks he knows everything and will not admit he is wrong
RayWilliamJohansen 1 year ago
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RayWilliamJohansen 1 year ago
See what happens when an agnostic fool doesn't have enough courage to be honest.
He knows that if he gives to many answers, they will expose the small mindedness of his illogical world view.
HolyRevelation 1 year ago 3
"neither one of us is right"
lol
why is he arguing from a position that isn't right???
i've also been laughing throughout this whole exchange. this is hilarious.
MissQwertyPie 1 year ago
dude, i've been lolling my head off. the pompous arrogance of the agnostic and absolute refusal to answer the simplest questions possible regarding logic.
the guy's attitude is what makes him look like such a joke.
anonazero 1 year ago 10
@anonazero AGREED, such a pompous attitude... he's to caught up in his own "intelligence" and sound of his voice.
pwrtecman 1 year ago
@anonazero The christian is a jackass that just wants to spew his talking points and not have a conversation and hear this mans perspective, even though I don't particularly agree with him on everything.
mathmexican4234 1 year ago
@mathmexican4234 despite the fact that the atheist does what you accuse the christian of? the christian has a reason to give the truth even if you disagree with that reason and that truth. the atheist just wants to rag on the christian.
anonazero 1 year ago
@anonazero I'm sure there is probably an instance where he interrupts, but the overwhelming majority of the occurrence of interruptions are from the Christian. You can call it 'giving the truth' all you want. It makes him seem less interested in discussion and more interested in giving out his shpeel. The agnostic/atheist/whatever he is at least seems interested in a discourse even though of course he obviously disagrees with the Christian.
mathmexican4234 1 year ago
@mathmexican4234 i've had countless discussions with atheists where they argue the simplest things. i like to ask atheists to quantify the trust they have for the chair they sit in. they'll might even give data about WHY they trust that chair but i've yet to hear anyone tell me how many inches or ftlbs of trust they have for their chair. at this point the guy can either cop to the fact that somethings cannot be measured or lie and say he has no trust/faith (as if trust/faith requires ignorance).
anonazero 1 year ago
@anonazero That's nice. No idea how that's relevant to my comment.
mathmexican4234 1 year ago
@mathmexican4234 the people accusing christians of talking in circles are usually (in my experience) having to be hounded back to using logic instead of emotional appeal or any number of other logical fallacies.
the guy basically plugged his ears and said lalalala because actually answering the questions according to logic and reason would paint him into a corner.
thats why its relevant.
anonazero 1 year ago
@anonazero I'm accusing the Christian of having the intention of spewing a shtick instead of having a genuine interest in listening to what the other guy has to say, which is demonstrated through his countless interruptions to make his points. I by no means agree with everything this guy is saying, and I have no idea about your experiences or other discussions you've seen; I'm talking about this one that we've all just seen.
mathmexican4234 1 year ago
@mathmexican4234 so the part where he asks a question and then waits for a response is... what?
anonazero 1 year ago
@anonazero Rare.
mathmexican4234 1 year ago
@mathmexican4234 nice dodge/lie.
anonazero 1 year ago
@anonazero lol so if you let someone speak for a while a couple times during an hour you become instantly interested in a discussion and the entire time you interrupt and do your shtick can be overlooked? lol ok sure, whatever you say
mathmexican4234 1 year ago
@mathmexican4234 despite the fact that the christian kept asking the atheist to logically explain why he was denying the law of non-contradiction... and the atheist kept floundering on, being a condescending jerk, and dodging everything.
the guy was refuting the very foundation of reason itself... and then claiming to be a skeptic.
its laughable.
anonazero 1 year ago
@anonazero You can frame it that way all you like, but there's a better way to push a person to be more straight forward in answering instead of cutting them off and interrupting constantly to get an answer to continue the path he wants. That's not what you do when you are interested in where he's coming from and having a dialogue. Like I said, I don't particularly agree with all that guys positions or his attitude particularly, but that's my opinion of the Christian in this video.
mathmexican4234 1 year ago
@mathmexican4234 i dont need to frame anything, the guy was running scared from logic and the christian was trying to get the guy to admit it.
anonazero 1 year ago
@mathmexican4234 "shtick"? i just see the one guy (regardless of theistic beliefs) trying to steer the other guy back to the problem that they simply can't overcome about "logic" which is the foundation of any further speaking....otherwise they would just be spewing words with no foundation to meaning (wasting time).
hexusziggurat 1 year ago
@anonazero keep laughing, I laugh everytime I read Dawson Bethrick's blog as he incinerates these arguements over and over and over again
actionjackson864 1 year ago
@actionjackson864 its too bad he wasn't able to help out in this face to face conversation.
anonazero 1 year ago
@anonazero its too bad presupp Christians just want to make people feel stupid with their reductio ad absurdum arguements and then ram their subjective worldview down people's throats...thats what is too bad.
actionjackson864 1 year ago
@actionjackson864 im impying that you're more fanboy than skeptic BTW
anonazero 1 year ago
@anonazero yeah Im a fanboy, Dawson is the heavyweight skeptic that has never been refuted by a presupp lacking logic ....funny how u dont address ne thing I said and jump right to name dropping
actionjackson864 1 year ago
@actionjackson864 you didn't say anything other than the guy was some kind of killer skeptic.... which i commented on. is dawson the arrogant snooty guy that can't give a straight answer to save his life? i hope not because he doesn't appear to be a skeptic at all.
anonazero 1 year ago
@anonazero lol uve got it all wrong read any post by him its as straight forward as it gets, if its not, why dont u go tell him where he's wrong? isnt it your duty as an apologist to assert your worldview as the only possiblity for truth to exist? sounds likee ur not doing a very good job. I'll be happy to answer any of your questions to the best of my ability
actionjackson864 1 year ago