listen to this jerk keep saying "so called - average Americans" MSNBC is really ridiculous how rude they are to ALL and ANY conservative points. its almost to a point where they are childish.
There is so much pork in the bill that it's dripping bar-bee-cue sauce!
It's funny how much Dems bring up the war in Iraq I guess they wanted us to go to Afganistan and get Bin Laden. Because one: The Russians had such GREAT SUCCESS there right?? and two: That Bin Laden was so easy to get. So if that's true why didnt Pres. Clinton get him in the 90's??? Just asking... The American people should not be allowed to waste money. THAT'S CONGRESS'S JOB!!!!
You make a really good point about capturing Bin-Laden.
There is a certain arrogance about both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. There's the notion that we can fix the problems of other countries.
It seems to me that we should remove ouselves from both countries and bolster our human intelligence capabilities in both regions. When we learn of terrorist camps, bomb those sites. We should also provide diplomatic and humanitarian support to these countries.
What is scary about all this is 52% of the population that voted in this election, voted for this Cabinet and President. God help the ignorant and the fools. Universal Health Care, STD Research, Condom research, Acorn election robberies. Will the true Conservatives ever have a chance to bring hope back to this country or are all elections doomed to fail through robbery and selfishness of those that want the Government to take care of them?
Not reading and understanding the bill before voting YES, is an anticipatory breach of contract and a misrepresentation of a elective official and should be grounds for impeachment!
I'm not saying that the Bush Administration didn't make huge mistakes and didn't treat us "average Americans" like ignorant fools. However, whenever Bush pushed his "personal agendas," he received a lot of media scrutiny (and rightly so). I just wish Obama & his fellow Dems would now face this same scrutiny. They purposely passed this "Stimulus" without the House & Senate even reading it. This is very scary!!
Their trying to break American, so we are no longer a force to reckoned with in the world. This is why they are sucking up to the criminal states around the world.
You're a fool. WHY did was a deficit created under Pres Bush?! Do you think any Pres would not have dificits after dealing with 911 and the resulting war (whether or not you think it was justified... at the time... just about EVERYONE thought it was).
Oscar, Please, Take just a minute and review President Bush's fiscal history. For the first 6 years, our econimy was great. Two years ago, the democrats, took over. Just ask nancy pileosi,,,she'll tell you the democrats were in charge. In those two years, look how they were able to screw-up our economy.
The Republicans introduced and pressed for passage of the "Enron loophole". This measure allowed for unregulated commodity futures trades. This in large measure encouraged the bubble in oil prices but more damaging, it brought us highly leveraged credit default swaps.
The Democrats over the years have tried to close the "Enron loophole" but have been symied by the Republicans.
Oscar, please - Look at history and who caused this horrible financial mess we're in right now. Two words; Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac. Democrats forcing banks to loan to people who had no possible way of paying-back a mortgage loan. Socialism at it's best!
If you are refering to the Community Reinvestment Act, that measure only applies to commercial banks. These institutions accounted for a very small percentage of subprime loans. The culprits were investment banks. Again their ability to do subprime loans was made possible by Repubublican deregulation.
No one forced any financial institution to make bad lending decisions.
Fannie & Freddie have a host of problems, not the least of which has to do with their size.
Oscar, it looks like you got a thumbs down, even before I had a chance to respond. You are in error, sir. Banks were, forced to make bad loans. And it was members of the Republican Congress that pointed-out the democrats folly with freddie and fannie. Today, we have a president with NO business sense and a business plan that has been proven, over decades, to fail. Again, just take a look at the last two years of dumocrat rule.
You just wrote, "Banks were forced to make bad loans."
Have you ever tried to say that out loud? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?
I'm sorry, but you have not provided any information to support your assertions. Please do yourself a favor and do a quick read at Wikipiedia on the subjects of "credit default swaps" and the "Enron loophole" and the 'Glass Stegal Act".
If you are refering to the Republicans as "they", yes you are correct. They are shameless.
They (as do too many Democrats) represent corporate interests, not the public interest.
Example: The abolishion of the Glass-Stegal Act. This bit of deregulation allowed investment banks to participate in the same activities as commercial banks and visa-versa. It was a major contributor to our economic disaster.
Thanks for your efforts and for posting this so that the so-called average American can see it. We sure arent watching MSONC! No doubt there is some hidden stimulus in the bill to insure their survival because they sure cant compete in a free market (RIP)
listen to this jerk keep saying "so called - average Americans" MSNBC is really ridiculous how rude they are to ALL and ANY conservative points. its almost to a point where they are childish.
noladem504 2 years ago
Now that the stimulus bill is law, the Republicans (mostly) are touting the benefits that their states will reap.
My hat is off to the hypocrites! Bravo.
OscarLewis 2 years ago
Stupid American!
There is so much pork in the bill that it's dripping bar-bee-cue sauce!
It's funny how much Dems bring up the war in Iraq I guess they wanted us to go to Afganistan and get Bin Laden. Because one: The Russians had such GREAT SUCCESS there right?? and two: That Bin Laden was so easy to get. So if that's true why didnt Pres. Clinton get him in the 90's??? Just asking... The American people should not be allowed to waste money. THAT'S CONGRESS'S JOB!!!!
dare2act 2 years ago 3
You make a really good point about capturing Bin-Laden.
There is a certain arrogance about both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. There's the notion that we can fix the problems of other countries.
It seems to me that we should remove ouselves from both countries and bolster our human intelligence capabilities in both regions. When we learn of terrorist camps, bomb those sites. We should also provide diplomatic and humanitarian support to these countries.
OscarLewis 2 years ago
what happens when say ohhh... the use schools and moscs as terrorist camps. should we just bomb them too??? oh but they would never do that... right?
noladem504 2 years ago
What is scary about all this is 52% of the population that voted in this election, voted for this Cabinet and President. God help the ignorant and the fools. Universal Health Care, STD Research, Condom research, Acorn election robberies. Will the true Conservatives ever have a chance to bring hope back to this country or are all elections doomed to fail through robbery and selfishness of those that want the Government to take care of them?
DesertSage01 2 years ago 6
Not reading and understanding the bill before voting YES, is an anticipatory breach of contract and a misrepresentation of a elective official and should be grounds for impeachment!
RampageExtrene1 2 years ago 7
I'm not saying that the Bush Administration didn't make huge mistakes and didn't treat us "average Americans" like ignorant fools. However, whenever Bush pushed his "personal agendas," he received a lot of media scrutiny (and rightly so). I just wish Obama & his fellow Dems would now face this same scrutiny. They purposely passed this "Stimulus" without the House & Senate even reading it. This is very scary!!
chowdahead1 2 years ago 4
On 02/13/09
House and Senate voted Yes for the PORKY BILL WITHOUT READING THE SHIT.
GOD DAMN IS THAT THE WAY THE DEMOCRAT DO REPRESENT PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON?
VOTING FOR A SHIT BILL WITHOUT READING IT?
GigiGaly 2 years ago 5
Their trying to break American, so we are no longer a force to reckoned with in the world. This is why they are sucking up to the criminal states around the world.
Auggie56 2 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Tom Price is a fiscal fraud. He never spoke-out about George Bush when Bush ran up huge deficits and the largest debt this country has ever seen.
Now, that our country is faced with an economic crisis, he's become a fiscal hawk.
He's just a typical lying politician.
OscarLewis 2 years ago
You're a fool. WHY did was a deficit created under Pres Bush?! Do you think any Pres would not have dificits after dealing with 911 and the resulting war (whether or not you think it was justified... at the time... just about EVERYONE thought it was).
kota4723 2 years ago
Oscar, Please, Take just a minute and review President Bush's fiscal history. For the first 6 years, our econimy was great. Two years ago, the democrats, took over. Just ask nancy pileosi,,,she'll tell you the democrats were in charge. In those two years, look how they were able to screw-up our economy.
Unklebillybob 2 years ago
The Republicans introduced and pressed for passage of the "Enron loophole". This measure allowed for unregulated commodity futures trades. This in large measure encouraged the bubble in oil prices but more damaging, it brought us highly leveraged credit default swaps.
The Democrats over the years have tried to close the "Enron loophole" but have been symied by the Republicans.
OscarLewis 2 years ago
Oscar, please - Look at history and who caused this horrible financial mess we're in right now. Two words; Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac. Democrats forcing banks to loan to people who had no possible way of paying-back a mortgage loan. Socialism at it's best!
Unklebillybob 2 years ago
If you are refering to the Community Reinvestment Act, that measure only applies to commercial banks. These institutions accounted for a very small percentage of subprime loans. The culprits were investment banks. Again their ability to do subprime loans was made possible by Repubublican deregulation.
No one forced any financial institution to make bad lending decisions.
Fannie & Freddie have a host of problems, not the least of which has to do with their size.
OscarLewis 2 years ago
Oscar, it looks like you got a thumbs down, even before I had a chance to respond. You are in error, sir. Banks were, forced to make bad loans. And it was members of the Republican Congress that pointed-out the democrats folly with freddie and fannie. Today, we have a president with NO business sense and a business plan that has been proven, over decades, to fail. Again, just take a look at the last two years of dumocrat rule.
Unklebillybob 2 years ago
You just wrote, "Banks were forced to make bad loans."
Have you ever tried to say that out loud? Do you realize how stupid that sounds?
I'm sorry, but you have not provided any information to support your assertions. Please do yourself a favor and do a quick read at Wikipiedia on the subjects of "credit default swaps" and the "Enron loophole" and the 'Glass Stegal Act".
OscarLewis 2 years ago
You caught the "so called average Americans" comment too. They are shameless.
ridge2ridge 2 years ago 8
If you are refering to the Republicans as "they", yes you are correct. They are shameless.
They (as do too many Democrats) represent corporate interests, not the public interest.
Example: The abolishion of the Glass-Stegal Act. This bit of deregulation allowed investment banks to participate in the same activities as commercial banks and visa-versa. It was a major contributor to our economic disaster.
OscarLewis 2 years ago
Can they define "so-called average Americans" please?
Has MSNBC even pulled their head out of the Dem's butt long enough to see one lately?
gensnipes 2 years ago 8
we own 700 billion to china
we own more than 600 billion to japan
we own money to England
We own money to BRAZIL*******
WHAT SHIT THIS DEMOCRATS ARE DOING TO AMERICA
GigiGaly 2 years ago 4
gigi- The democrats are turning America into France, England and Canada
LiberalshateAmerica 2 years ago 3
Thanks for your efforts and for posting this so that the so-called average American can see it. We sure arent watching MSONC! No doubt there is some hidden stimulus in the bill to insure their survival because they sure cant compete in a free market (RIP)
matahaari 2 years ago 5
WTF? So-called average Americans??? MSDNC is so completely irreverent
TMRTV 2 years ago 5
No more debt!
eric731 2 years ago