@erikdeerly.....yes, i do have a job. For the last 26 years as a matter of fact, and have NEVER been unemployed. Stand on your own two feet or fall, Just because you work for a union, you thugs feel that you represent everyone else in Wis that works. Your days, like summer are just about over. maybe you'd like to send a couple hundred bucks a month my way to help support me? ( doubt it)
@tootsandgrizz Listen to the old scared white republican baby-boomer idiot. If he acquired cancer, this imbecile would be the first to acquire aid,. Way to go, vote for the dopey-eyed Walker, idiot
@kadkins3663 What are YOU talking about? Have a clue before posting, tard. I was replying to the jerk-off who insinuated that I was unemployed. My insurance has gone up nearly every year. If I don't l;ike it, I can either drop it or find work elsewhere. My choice, no one elses. If it weren't for liberals like you, I might be a moderate, but it's your tactics and lack of fact presentation that has pushed me to the right. Congratulations!
@mgdicehouse Corporate managers have seniority and it doesn't matter what they do (like tank the entire economy, shifiting blame to public workers) and they keep getting paid (and now recieve more).
This is what corporations do, prop up those who don't care (they can externalize economic risk, environmental destruction). There might be some CEOs who dont want to destroy their children's future but they cant choose that (legally bound to maximize profits before all else).
Walker will havebeen great for Wisconsin's Democratic Party. Where have all the good-hearted fiscally intelligent Republicans gone? Where are the Eisenhowers, those Republicans who understood that a modern superpower needed social programs along with smart money management?
@lolololoolllool I am a student and I see the bottom's or the barrel all around me. Most were dumbed down by the system, despite all of the money being spent for education.
Everyone can bitch all they want, the first real true test of where the majority of the people of Wisconsin stand will be on April 5th. Kloppenburg vs. Prosser. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that vote outcome will speak volumes on whether Wisconsin supports or opposes Walker. He was voted in to balance the budget, NOT to end collective bargaining for unions. Ending collective bargaining does NOT balance the budget. THATS WHERE HE MESSED UP! That does not sit well with even non-union workers!
Government Unions are a bad plan, FDR knew it, Jimmy Carter Knew it, Ronald Reagan Knew it. Further; Government Union employees work for the taxpayer, the TAXPAYER is the boss, NOT overpaid Union Leaders. Gov union created jobs only create a larger tax bill for the Taxpayer, it is in effect socialism, and Americans have shown over and over that it REJECTS socialism!
@httm241 your comment proves Scott Walker is correct, public unions are disfunctional,and certainly out of touch with a troubled economy. FDR was correct, Jimmy Carter was correct and Ronald Reagan was correct.
Gov unions make slaves of private sector taxpayers, recall that FDR was againt gov unions, Jimmy carter banned collective bargaining in fed gov. Walker is 100% correct
From what i understand iit's the PUBLIC UNIONS that r breaking the states. Walker was elected Governor to stop the PUBLIC UNION selfishness. I really hope that I'm not the only one that knows the difference between PRIVATE and PUBLIC UNIONS.
The public needs and deserves a tax break, not an increase to continue pampering a select group of people.
If teachers, firefighters, and police officersdon't like their pay they are free to quit and work at McDonalds for the high corporate pay they keep complaining is too high. Walker is the ultimate liberal democrat.
This guy is s Nazi douche bag. Typical Tea bagging scum bag. All you people that think he's a hero are retarded. 2:1 says this heads to supreme court. Instead of tea bags hanging from there hats, which looks moronic, they should weR swastikas on the arm bands.
It's about time that a politician stood up and did what's necessary. Instead of pandering to a large special interest group (the unions), this guy (unlike Obama) seems to have the stones to do what must be done to trim government spending. Three cheers for Walker!!!
@timytim4prez if your one of those that think american oil company's will drill MORE if allowed to drive prices down (including profits) your insane! If you just want to blame Obama for something...neither he nor Bush are responding to oil company's irresponsible actions with their association's with speculation and hedge-fund mgrs!
@timytim4prez not sure what ur trying to say? Neither Bush nor Obama are to blame for oil prices. At this time there isn't a shortage!! Joe Pags (conservative radio) said it best! "oil prices are up only because oil speculators have artificially driven them there!". He also said "the gov should remove oil from the commoditys market to allow it's price to be decided by 'supply and demand' only!"
Excellent job, Gov. Walker. It's about time someone has the guts to stand up to monopolized unions. Right to Work is the way to go. Everyone deserves a right to negotiate with an employer, particularly the tax payers!
WAY TO GO OBAMA!!! The price of gas is now up OVER 130% under Obama, $1.65 per gallon when he took office, today its $3.85, source, AAAdotcom. Like the imbecile said, “Under my plan, the price of energy will necessarily skyrocket.” “Change someone doing 350 mg of Phendimetrazine a day can believe in!!!!” I KNOW, IT’S ALL BUSH’S FAULT, ROFL!!!
You are a SCUMBAG. Those fucking teachers are making 48k a year, which is a PISS POOR salary. Kick yourself to the curb Walker, you and the rest of the GOP are scum and are on your way out. Just wait until 2012
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This idiot already admitted he ballanced the State budget on the backs of working people by eliminating middle income gov't jobs. OMG what else is it going to take to expose this Tea Baggin Replublitard??? He's well on his way to eliminating the middle class in WIS. The only thing standing in his way are the UNOINS. Now he's out to destroy other working class families...If ever a time for solidarity has existed it is NOW!!! WIS is a great State, don't let him take it down the tubes!!!
The "Real Deal"; They were on track to have a $121 M SURPLUS in the budget, The Governor then gives away over $140 M in "Tax Breaks" to business that suported him in his Election. Now he has the entire Union watching and if he breaks the Unions, guess what happens in every OTHER State the very next day?
What I think is funny is the Unions have invested their pensions in Koch Industries, LOL, is that rich or what? The very person they HATE, is who they have invested their pensions. According to the State of Wisconsin Investment Board (SWIB), the Wisconsin Retirement System owns $5.5 million in Georgia Pacific corporate bonds. (Georgia Pacific is owned by Koch Industries.) and now the unions want to boycott GP? LOL, Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. IDIOTS.
The voters wanted you to abuse your power, you dumb cunt?! Have you ever studied about the tyranny of the majority, you dumb cunt?! Well, you'll learn how strong a majority can be when they toss you out of that tax-payer provided governor's mansion and onto your BABY HUEY ASS!
@mediaphotographer Study the tyranny of the majority. Guess what? If you allow yourself to be benefitted by unfair majority votes, you also must experience the opposite one day because the other side will not rest until they gain a sort of vengeance. The tyranny of the majority starts a vicious trend in democratic politics. Rest assured, your turn is coming. Many who didn't vote for either Barrett or Walker are against Walker's turn against the common man in favor of billionaires.
The price of gas is now up 109% under Obama, $1.65 per gallon when he took office, today its $3.43, source, AAAdotcom. Like the imbecile said, “Under my plan, the price of energy will necessarily skyrocket.” “Change someone doing 350 mg of Phendimetrazine a day can believe in!!!!” OBAMA IS DESTROYING AMERICA
@timytim4prez No it is not a trick question. It as a question of truth. You are right. Easy wasn't it? We are are worst off, due to the failed policies of this administration.
Walker, get your ass out of the tax payer furnished Wisconsin governor's mansion right now! We are cutting costs, starting with your freebooting ass!
@1911arthur Of course, thanks. Americans are stupid nowadays, and nobody cares a tit to learn the lessons of history. I think it's about time to invade Vietnam.
@parafleet Nope been there, done that. We won ALL our battles, But lost the war to dope smokng commuist protesters and headband wearing liberal hippies.
Most folks appear to miss the real point in the argument that Walker has so eagerly promoted. The Republican plan was & is to de-fund government, in favor of their Corporatist co-conspirators who amply financed the "campaign" from Day 1. Their devious plan, initiated during Ronnie Ray-gun's reign as Emperor in Chief, has continued almost unabated - even through the Clinton years. The IRS system's credits & deductions eliminate the wealthy fat cats from most taxes . And yet they whine...
UNION BUSTING....UNION BUSTING....UNION BUSTING...UNION BUSTING....UNION BUSTING....UNION BUSTING ....UNION BUSTING......UNION BUSTING.....UNION BUSTING....UNION BUSTING....UNION BUSTING....UNION BUSTING....UNION BUSTING....UNION BUSTING...UNION BUSTING.....UNION BUSTING.....UNION BUSTING FOR THE ONLY PURPOSE OF ENHANCING WALKER'S RUN FOR THE WHITE HOUSE SIMPLE AS THAT!!!!!! WHO CARES ABOUT THE BUDGET OR THE FUTURE....A POLITICIAN CARING ABOUT THE FURURE GENERATIONS????? WAKE UP PEOPLE....
In an ill-fated escapade in Milwaukee County, Walker outsourced decent-paying Wisconsin government jobs to a foreign corporation. Wackenhut (now called G4S) has offices in Jupiter, Florida, but it is owned by a Danish security firm called Group 4 Falck, which bought Wackenhut Corporation in 2002. Another international company that partly owned Wackenhut, Securicor, is based in the United Kingdom. He didn't even outsource the jobs to a Wisconsin based-business.
@steelersX01 right now it seems they are on strike... if they are salary employees then yes, we are paying them to not work but the googled facts and ACT/SAT scores prove when working they do their job above the national average. Oh, if they do actually commit a fireable act under their contract firing them is easy!
@robokc1985 any other claims about this union on this issue with these teachers being abusive power, over paid, mob bosses is a bold face fantasy. The cost of firing bad teachers never was the issue! Radicals talk of unions as if they are a enitity...there not. Unions are employees. Yes they pay dues and those dues are spent in their intrest!
@4889870 In my opinion I think that unions and their leaders are abusing the powers they have been given and should have some of the powers taken away from them. If everything was great in Wisconsin and public employee unions where helping make everything great and had been doing there part to balance the budget then I don’t think this would have gotten to where it is now. I don’t think Unions should be allowed to force anybody to join a union or be able to dictate who can and can’t be fired.
@robokc1985 I allowed my participation here to be skewed to see where everyone stood. However the facts remain...this union, these teachers, this issue IS NOT abuse of power. In public Walker claims his stand is to bal the budget and in private he admits he's trying to bust the union and hopes others follow
@4889870 Well from where i stand what he is doing is right even if his own reasons are misguided. Unions have more power than they are able to use responsibly. When it cost thosands of dollars to get ride of a bad employee or teacher and they protect them even when they are clearly wrong and should lose their employment what choices are left on the table.I believe you said Unions are democrats and republicans but you might not come to that conclusion if you look at their political spending.
@robokc1985 if you are found guilty of the crimes you claim happened you WOULD OF been found guilt of a federal crime and yes, would lose your teachers certificate. I suspect you have the facts wrong or are connected to the case and have partizan feelings to the issues
@robokc1985 you cannot be a teacher without a teachers certificate and you can't get or keep one as a felon and NO union can change that...period! Besides...you still haven't been able to dispute my facts in the web pages I cited! P.S. If you are truly a bad teacher and break "contracts of your job"..yes you should be fired
@4889870 I don’t plan on disproving any facts you have cited. I only plan on showing that unions are abusing the power they have and something must be done. I’m glade you’re reasonable and can actually say that. Do you think it should cost over 100,000 dollars to fire a bad teacher in any state? You came into this comment section at a very bitter time. I was being just as unreasonable as the other guy because it really didn’t matter what i said he was going to attack it and insult me.
@robokc1985 sir, you may have listed court cases where unions supported the actions of a teachers lawyer however, unions are not lawyers or jury's or judges! If a person you wish to call teacher a pedophile and a jury said otherwise then the LAW supported the teacher..not the union! Therefore the facts say he's NOT even if you ignor the law
@4889870 That’s why he is serving 20 years after being allowed to be a teacher for an additional 10 years. When it could have been stopped before more children where hurt. The unions forced the school to rehire Robert C. Devaney after he had been fired for making sexual overtures to a special needs student. Now that’s power
@robokc1985 I supplied web sites that clearly state (non partizanly) the effectiveness of Wi teachers and compares their TRUE salaries to 26 other higher paid states and you still say they are abusing their power. After Walkers recorded phone call it's clear who is abusing the power!
@4889870 Seriously, forget it. He disregards anything he doesn't want to hear. It's that pleasant, magical certainty that comes from self-denial. I've been laughing at him for days now, but it's gotten boring. You can only watch a clown act so many times before it becomes as dull as a weather report.
@robokc1985 you still fail to accept the fact that these union thugs (teachers) you speak of (well over 60 thousand protesting) ARE in fact TAX PAYERS! They ARE in fact both conservatives AND liberals! They are in fact not as well off as anti union radicals want the rest of the nation to know!
@robokc1985 you still fail to accept the fact that these union thugs (teachers) you speak of (well over 60 thousand protesting) ARE in fact TAX PAYERS! They ARE in fact both conservatives AND liberals! They are in fact not as well off as anti union radicals want the rest of the nation to know!
@4889870 Taxpayers that pay taxes with the tax dollars they get paid with. Which is stupid I myself would go as far to say that if you are in the military or collect a check that the taxpayer writes you should be tax exempt and have your wages offset accordingly. But like I said before if Unions were not abusing the power they have then this would not be an issue
@robokc1985 it was juvinile at best but had nothing with her job so the union backed her up! If the pedophile was convicted... the law would not allow he or she to have a teachers certificate. Nothing the union could do!
@robokc1985 radicals are known for not telling the whole truth. If indeed the law is broken the union will NOT intervene! Such as the teacher in Mo that sent nude photos from a home computer to a friend. Her ex husband stole the computer and gave the photos to the school. She was fired....
@robokc1985 and for your ugly dog comment: the fact Wi teachers prepared their students to score so high in the nation CAN NOT be disregarded. Facts are facts. Let's be honest..this is less about education and balancing the budget and more about busting the union like Walker was recorded saying!
@4889870 Teachers are paid a fair wage for what they do. I don’t necessarily want teachers to get paid less or lose any benefits but they should not be receiving better treatment than the taxpayers. What i want is unions to be put in their place and to stop protecting bad teachers and making it cost up to 300,000 dollars in some cases to fire a bad teacher. Unions are abusing their power and when that happens then it is necessary to take away the power they are abusing and using irresponsibly.
@robokc1985 and let's not leave out that there is 26 other states that teachers salaries are higher than Wisconsin $46,390. California, Alaska and Hawaii we can excuse for cost of living but Rhode Island $54,730- only 17 states out of 50 had more students participate. That's not to say the didn't take the test the following year.
@robokc1985 and as for your statement "cream of the crop".....there is none. EVERYONE students that is....take one test or the other! The National Education Association doesn't save these test for only the gifted! And as you can see from the 'teachers portal' your yearly pay as well as radio talkshow host is padded!
@robokc1985 yup..the rest of the state took ACT exam in which nationally students ranked well above average: act. org/ news/ data/ 10/states. html take out the spaces then let's get our the correct numbers on their starting and ave pay: teacherportal. com/ teacher- salaries- by- state
I see now, because 1 in 20 LA teachers can't perform, you want the others to all lose their benefits and security. I also see an angry, hateful guy(you)who perceives himself as some sort of victim in all of this, and wants revenge. And also, how would shoring up this hole in the system possibly help the economy, when the budgetary problems of the state are, literally, more than a thousand times greater than the money changing hands in these lawsuits. How in the world is this a priority now?
@wuezili Well it wouldn’t be an issue if the unions didn’t abuse their power and bankrupt the system + rob the children of their education. Without unions the great teachers will be rewarded accordingly and the bad teachers will be fired. With unions you can be the best teacher in the country and get fired from your job because you don’t have seniority HMMmmmmmm that’s flawed firing a great teacher because they don’t have tenure or haven’t worked at the school long enough and yes it has happened
@robokc1985 Yes, and if we abolished the unions all the hungry would be fed, the south would rise again, and angels would flutter about as children laughed and played in the sunshine. Yes, once again, there was just ONE thing wrong with whole system.
Pardon me if I laugh at your simplistic ideas spoon-fed to you by various blogs and half-assed right wing news sources.
@robokc1985 "unions protect bad teachers". Huh? I'm a conservative that isn't necessary pro union but I am proeducation! FACT is: unions are conservatives and liberals!, Wi has 2nd highest 2009 SAT scores in nation, teachers are 2nd lowest starting pay in nation, and only rank 24th in nation on pay & benefits despite reports of radio hosts
robokc1985 "..unions protect bad teachers". I'm a conservative that isn't necessary pro union but I AM pro education! FACTs googled: 2009 Wisconsin had 2nd highest in nation SAT scores, Wi new teachers 2nd lowest starting pay in nation and rank only 24th in nation benefits & Pay despite what radical radio host say.
@4889870 Fact in wisconsin only 4% the cream of the crop took the sat in other states the numbers are much higher. So to say that Wisconsin has the 3rd highest SAT scores is more than flawed. Fact Wisconsin, teaching salaries averaged $52,644 in 2009-10, according to the National Education Association. Thats more than fair for 9 months of work.
@alyomaya Our educational system use to be the best in the world & then came along teacher unions & tenure making teachers check collectors rather then educators! Public union teachers are the roman circus friend! Public Union schools are about teachers & what they get not about the kids they are supposed to care about!
1) Results in Charter Schools might be better because the parents that made the effort to get them into the school are more likely to take an interest in the day to day performance of their child 2)70% of families have dual incomes. Who is doing homework with their child? Go to the gym and eat McDonald's later=no results. Kids go home and feast on TV, video games, social networking...Want better results? Get kids to improve study habits, and do homework!
@alyomaya I would take paying for the jets rather continue the funding of the public unions that have brought what was once the best education in the world to where it is now. Teachers are overpaid if you look at the results of their labors. If they were a business they would have been bankrupt long ago! Fortunately they can buy democrat politicians to negotiate their contracts with! Charter schools have proven public union schools are a bottomless pit of misspent money!
@joe035 Right, right. One group of people are to blame for EVERYTHING. Typical hysterical garbage. Of course, you don't actually look up the facts, you just regurgitate what someone else who doesn't know what they are talking about said.
NATIONAL CENTER FOR EDUCATIONAL STATISTICS website -' In reading, as in mathematics, the performance of fourth-grade students with similar racial/ethnic backgrounds in charter schools and other public schools was not measurably different.'
@wuezili WRONG Charter schools have overwhelmingly out performed public union ran schools nationally. You have to enter a lottery to get in, not everybody is excited about sending their kids to public schools with history of failure thanks to teachers with tenure. "check collectors"
@alyomaya Well I will agree that Unions WHERE important and at one point i thought they were a good thing. But now as i see unions using and abusing the power they have been in trusted with and becoming less and less reasonable and are becoming more like a leach that is just trying to suck as much as they can from the host until it dies. I would say unions and laws dealing with them need to be reformed because the damage that is being done is not tolerable anymore.
This Walker has committed political suicide, rubbing the wounds of a politically divided state. This Walker is a man who needs to punish "enemies" instead of work for the best interests of all. As long as people follow this Walker, he will lead them astray.
@parafleet This freedom train ain't gonna stop for crybaby libs. This is just the start. We are pulling beaucoup freight cars. Freedom from bullshit unions has spread like wildfire. Quicker than wrong "queer rights." Pulling Obama out is next. Cutting all foreign aid at same time. Power to the people!
Attention all good workers of Wisconsin. If Walker gets a legal victory here that goes against workers, teachers, firefighters, police, etc., you are welcome to COME AND LIVE in states like Illinois, Iowa, Missouri, Minnesota, Indiana, etc., and get a job. Good workers can leave and relocate to continue their careers.
@GodChristLord Yeah you see the opposite is true UNIONS protect BAD workers.SOOOO when the unions go down in a state the GOOD workers get PAID more and advanced FASTER and the BAD workers get FIRED. IF you need a union to hold down a job then i would say GET YOUR LAZY GOOD FOR NOTHING OVER COMPENSATED ASS OUT OF MY STATE.
@GodChristLord O I dont hmmmmmmm Well Have you looked at the shcool system or seen the videos of Tenured Teachers sitting in a class reading a newspaper instead of teaching and when the school fires them the Unions Force the school to re-hire them. I think you are the one that doesnt know a thing about Unions.
@GodChristLord Yeah well unions have done good to bad it’s being overshadowed with the damage they are doing in the school system manufacturing and helping public employees totally get over on and screw the tax payer. Why is it everytime a big company just so happens to need a BAIL OUT it is a UNION company?
@robokc1985 I am an Independent and wholly for the American worker in regard to Corporate America. I do not see the Federal Government as a problem; I still see it as mighty.
@GodChristLord If more people spoke out against the to big to fail bailouts & governments inability to exist within a budget maybe the spotlight wouldn't be on how well teachers are compensated despite their piss poor results? Not that all teacher are bad educators but they all seem to support tenure which makes those who are unfireable.
@GodChristLord Of course he doesn't. He doesn't know a thing about taxes, government, politics, economics, history, science, etc. He doesn't know ANYTHING.
@robokc1985 The truth about state workers compensation, by David Cay Johnston, former tax reporter for the New York Times. 'Out of every dollar that funds Wisconsin' s pension and health insurance plans for state workers, 100 cents comes from the state workers.
How can that be? Because the “contributions” consist of money that employees chose to take as deferred wages – as pensions when they retire – rather than take immediately in cash. The same is true with the health care plan. '(cont.)
@robokc1985 MORE HERE - "Thus, state workers are not being asked to simply "contribute more" to Wisconsin' s retirement system (or as the argument goes, "pay their fair share" of retirement costs as do employees in Wisconsin' s private sector who still have pensions and health insurance). They are being asked to accept a cut in their salaries so that the state of Wisconsin can use the money to fill the hole left by tax cuts and reduced audits of corporations in Wisconsin. "
@wuezili Your so stupid are you really going to QUOTE some liberal BULLSHIT artist. WELL hmmmmmmmm WHO FUNDS THE STATE NOT STATE WORKERS JERK OFF. TAXPAYERS PAY THE STATE WORKERS SO TAXPAYERS PAY FOR THE PENSIONS THAT ARE BANKRUPTING THE STATE AND ARE BETTER THAN WHAT THE TAXPAYERS RECIEVE. State workers are no better than private sector workers and should never recieve better benefits than the majority of the taxpayers
@robokc1985 LOL! What a load of jibberish! Pensions bankrupting the state! You'll say anything! Believe anything you're told to! This is unfair, you're too stupid to say anything substantive. You've nothing to offer but knee jerk reactions, bullshit conservative memes, ridiculous anecdotes. When you said 'Have you been to the DMV...' I honestly slapped my knee! That has got to be the lowest point of this 'debate'.
@wuezili If I’m stupid then you are mentally retarded. You can’t even give a straight answer. Hey what’s a fair tax? Hey do you think it’s a good idea to cut military spending do you even want this country to have a balanced budget? I doubt you could care less so long as whatever happens doesn’t affect you. Good thing the American people are voting liberal dumbasses out of office. You haven’t even agreed that bad teachers should get fired. Good thing your completely irrelevant.
@robokc1985 HAHA! If you don't understand the citations I've given you. JUST ADMIT IT. I'll walk you through them, just like the way the nice firemen help you down from trees when loud noises scare you and you go into one of your simian panics.
@wuezili You are so wrong it’s laughable. Have you been to the DMV or i don’t know any government agency. The biggest idiots in the world work there and hide behind a union. I would be interested to see the statistics on how many state workers PAID FOR THEIR OWN EDJUCATION it wouldn’t surprise me if the taxpayer is on the hook for 100% of that to. Anybody who has dealt with the government which is everybody can tell just how full of shit you are.
@wuezili Hey i was in the army I made 24k a year and got SHOT AT. You are never going to justify a teacher making 50+k a year for sitting on their asses in a heated and air conditioned room not even teaching in some cases being protected by a corrupt union when soldiers who fight and die for this country don’t get paid DICK but i bet you would love to see military spending cut wouldn’t you because all you care about is YOURSELF
@robokc1985 They have EDUCATIONS you freakin' moron! Workers with educations make more money, in the public and private sectors, both. And no war since WW2 has done anything to secure our freedoms. My father would tell you the same thing had he not died in a VA hospital. He was a marine, a doctor, and proud of both, as I was of him.
Why not take a gander at the money we've wasted in the middle east - TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS! And the only returns americans have seen are higher gasoline prices!
@wuezili You are absolutely right! Limp wrist whinny liberals now have the government feeding tube taken away, PERMANENTLY. Cut off ALL foreign aid. The USA has the largest amount of ACCESSIBLE crude oil in the ENTIRE world. Russia has the most by land mass. But most of it is inaccessible because of their backward methods. We are smarter. USA can be SELF-SUSTAINING in oil and all food resources. Let the muddly yeast sluts come to us! Get rid of pro-fag Obama, too. Scott Walker for Prez in 2012!
@Glinkaism1 Okay, let me get this straight, not only are unions, democrats and gays to blame for the state of the country, but now you want to bring russia back into the equation? Why not John Lennon? He's just as dead the USSR.
@wuezili Yeah i have a degree in applied science I know what education does for my bank account To bad liberals like yourself protect unions that protect bad teachers that are failing the students and create drop out factories so they never even have a chance at college. But hey liberals don’t mean to keep inner city schools bad on purpose they just can’t fire the bad teacher because it would make their union bankroll angry. But hey all you care about is yourself and union power
@robokc1985 Please, show evidence that anything you've just said is true. I can't just keep pointing out how dumb you are, it's getting old. That, at least, has been proven without a doubt.
@wuezili Google dance of the lemons and you will find more evidence then you will know what to do with or you can go to this hoover digest article "hoover. org/ publications/ hoover-digest/ article/ 7425" take out the spaces
@wuezili Here is a little excerpt from the article "National Education Association president Bob Chase, undaunted by the news that more than half of Massachusetts teachers had failed their competency tests, characterizes the problem of bad teachers as a matter of “a few bad apples.” "
@robokc1985 Imagine, Peter Schweizer, a man who works for the hoover institute, a republican think tank funded by such labor loving companies as J.P. Morgan, Boeing, Ford, GM, Chrysler, Merril Lynch and Exxon says 50 percent of Mass. teachers fail a competency test. He's talking about a test that was designed poorly, "Fundamental defects may explain why those who failed include an MIT graduate and Fulbright scholar, several high-tech engineers, and dozens of experienced teachers... "
@wuezili Ha-ha a republican think tank is at nbc? Because he has worked for them. You’re full of it. Hey so i guess you’re not going to answer a single question i have asked you. Like i said before you only insult you don’t even have an argument. You are irrelevant.
@robokc1985 What a hypocrite! You ignored an article I cited by a new york times economics reporter. But when you cite an article by the man who wrote 'Do as I Say (Not as I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy ' which was praised by notorious liar bill o'reilly, you expect me to waste my time.
You're a flea. And you've answered 1 out of 10 questions of mine with 'uh libs duh unions uh duh unions again.' Repetitive nonsense, bullshit ravings and contrarian wailings are all you've got to offer.
@wuezili I think you’re mad because I supplied evidence that destroyed everything you were fighting for. The article you cited is very easy to contradict. I supplied COURT cases and REAL evidence more than you have done. And what question is it you have asked that I didn’t answer?
@robokc1985 Evidence? You find one article from a specious source, citing the infamous MTT test of the late 90's as proof of something totally debunked, and you're satisfied. This why the red states are poorer, have the highest unemployment rates, the lowest test scores, the most pregnant teens, high school dropouts, junkies,criminals, and adulterous millionaire preachers, because you simply don't care about truth. One suspicious word from a conservative con man and you've got you march
@robokc1985 Btw, it would take a month to back track and find all the questions you simply ignored with unfounded rantings. You actually looking up an article was surprising, even if it was a turd.
@wuezili Thats funny i went back and still havent found a question i havent answered. You supplied 1 article. The rest I supplied the information and told you were to find it. Like i said before all you have are insults. You wont even say that bad teachers should be fired. You wont even answer a yes or no question. I have told you where to look and I gave you an aritlce that sums of a lot of what is out their. You are beyond reason.
@robokc1985 Hey here is an exercise for you. Approach a union leader and ask him to let companies fire all the bad teachers and employees and see how perceptive he is to the suggestion.
@robokc1985 Bad employees, of any vocation, should be fired. Your dozens of replies of 'DAMN LIBS LIARS BLEGH' were not answers. They cited no references, or empirical evidence, and read like a toddler typing two-fingered.
And I've not only referenced articles, but official scientific studies and polls, as well. A waste of time, apparently.
I'll humbly allow you the last word, although I won't be reading it. You're self-assured, rhetoric-fueled ignorance has lost its appeal. Toodles.
@wuezili -but union employees are not fired...they are protected by the union which are funded with taxpayer money! ALL PUBLIC SECTOR unions are scum and need eradicated in every state.
@erikdeerly.....yes, i do have a job. For the last 26 years as a matter of fact, and have NEVER been unemployed. Stand on your own two feet or fall, Just because you work for a union, you thugs feel that you represent everyone else in Wis that works. Your days, like summer are just about over. maybe you'd like to send a couple hundred bucks a month my way to help support me? ( doubt it)
tootsandgrizz 4 months ago
@tootsandgrizz Listen to the old scared white republican baby-boomer idiot. If he acquired cancer, this imbecile would be the first to acquire aid,. Way to go, vote for the dopey-eyed Walker, idiot
kadkins3663 1 month ago
@kadkins3663 What are YOU talking about? Have a clue before posting, tard. I was replying to the jerk-off who insinuated that I was unemployed. My insurance has gone up nearly every year. If I don't l;ike it, I can either drop it or find work elsewhere. My choice, no one elses. If it weren't for liberals like you, I might be a moderate, but it's your tactics and lack of fact presentation that has pushed me to the right. Congratulations!
tootsandgrizz 1 month ago
DOUCHE WALKER
bootleg711 7 months ago
@mgdicehouse Corporate managers have seniority and it doesn't matter what they do (like tank the entire economy, shifiting blame to public workers) and they keep getting paid (and now recieve more).
This is what corporations do, prop up those who don't care (they can externalize economic risk, environmental destruction). There might be some CEOs who dont want to destroy their children's future but they cant choose that (legally bound to maximize profits before all else).
Corps need to go!
Simbelmyne13 7 months ago
Walker will havebeen great for Wisconsin's Democratic Party. Where have all the good-hearted fiscally intelligent Republicans gone? Where are the Eisenhowers, those Republicans who understood that a modern superpower needed social programs along with smart money management?
parafleet 8 months ago
he has no respect for the men and women of the working class. he is not fit for this possition look at what he did to milwakee
MsWonderlover 9 months ago
@lolololoolllool There is nothing wrong with public education that less money won't fix. We can no longer over fund public education.
Maxwedge12000 9 months ago
Listen cry baby teachers!We are all done paying for are benefits and yours to!
Get a life move on or just get out of are new state.
The state gave you all collective bargaining long ago and the state can take it away,So get on with it!
wes53548 10 months ago
@lolololoolllool I am a student and I see the bottom's or the barrel all around me. Most were dumbed down by the system, despite all of the money being spent for education.
frio109 11 months ago
Everyone can bitch all they want, the first real true test of where the majority of the people of Wisconsin stand will be on April 5th. Kloppenburg vs. Prosser. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that vote outcome will speak volumes on whether Wisconsin supports or opposes Walker. He was voted in to balance the budget, NOT to end collective bargaining for unions. Ending collective bargaining does NOT balance the budget. THATS WHERE HE MESSED UP! That does not sit well with even non-union workers!
TopGun8993 11 months ago
collective bargaining? More like.............klepto-bargaining.
rw5791 11 months ago
@lolololoolllool There is nothing stopping teachers from continual education and or changing jobs.
frio109 11 months ago
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Government Unions are a bad plan, FDR knew it, Jimmy Carter Knew it, Ronald Reagan Knew it. Further; Government Union employees work for the taxpayer, the TAXPAYER is the boss, NOT overpaid Union Leaders. Gov union created jobs only create a larger tax bill for the Taxpayer, it is in effect socialism, and Americans have shown over and over that it REJECTS socialism!
runnermonkey 11 months ago
@runnermonkey you are a fucking dumb ass
httm241 10 months ago
@httm241 your comment proves Scott Walker is correct, public unions are disfunctional,and certainly out of touch with a troubled economy. FDR was correct, Jimmy Carter was correct and Ronald Reagan was correct.
runnermonkey 10 months ago
Scott walker likes it in the butt!!!! What a fag....
sladyard963 11 months ago
SCOTT "KOCH SUCKER" WALKER...
HUMANSAREBENEATHME 11 months ago
@lolololoolllool Most teachers have a bachelors.
frio109 1 year ago
Gov unions make slaves of private sector taxpayers, recall that FDR was againt gov unions, Jimmy carter banned collective bargaining in fed gov. Walker is 100% correct
runnermonkey 1 year ago
Great Job Gov. Walker, you did what you were elected to do.
mediaphotographer 1 year ago
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From what i understand iit's the PUBLIC UNIONS that r breaking the states. Walker was elected Governor to stop the PUBLIC UNION selfishness. I really hope that I'm not the only one that knows the difference between PRIVATE and PUBLIC UNIONS.
The public needs and deserves a tax break, not an increase to continue pampering a select group of people.
FORMETOKNOWONLY 1 year ago
STOP THE NWO, STOP DARTH WALKER
EXPOSE THE KOCH ROACHES..
TheDrunkenHer0 1 year ago
If teachers, firefighters, and police officersdon't like their pay they are free to quit and work at McDonalds for the high corporate pay they keep complaining is too high. Walker is the ultimate liberal democrat.
pirucreek 1 year ago
About time someone that has sence!!
grah30 1 year ago 2
Certified lunatic. Scary!
farcus7166 1 year ago
@farcus7166 I know right! He is a nut case! It's so obvious! He is crazy!
milezycyrus1fan 1 year ago
This guy is s Nazi douche bag. Typical Tea bagging scum bag. All you people that think he's a hero are retarded. 2:1 says this heads to supreme court. Instead of tea bags hanging from there hats, which looks moronic, they should weR swastikas on the arm bands.
farcus7166 1 year ago
@fartcus7166 Majority Rules.The rest of the 95% of non unions working Ameicans spoke!!
mediaphotographer 1 year ago
It's about time that a politician stood up and did what's necessary. Instead of pandering to a large special interest group (the unions), this guy (unlike Obama) seems to have the stones to do what must be done to trim government spending. Three cheers for Walker!!!
c5back9 1 year ago 2
@timytim4prez if your one of those that think american oil company's will drill MORE if allowed to drive prices down (including profits) your insane! If you just want to blame Obama for something...neither he nor Bush are responding to oil company's irresponsible actions with their association's with speculation and hedge-fund mgrs!
4889870 1 year ago
@timytim4prez not sure what ur trying to say? Neither Bush nor Obama are to blame for oil prices. At this time there isn't a shortage!! Joe Pags (conservative radio) said it best! "oil prices are up only because oil speculators have artificially driven them there!". He also said "the gov should remove oil from the commoditys market to allow it's price to be decided by 'supply and demand' only!"
4889870 1 year ago
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Video of Walker banging a dog!!! OMG!!!
Wisconsin’s Governor Walker gets SMEARED like no public official ever has!!!
This guy had it coming… f***ing hilarious video!!!! … Click my name and it will take you to the video…
theblackandwhitenews 1 year ago
Excellent job, Gov. Walker. It's about time someone has the guts to stand up to monopolized unions. Right to Work is the way to go. Everyone deserves a right to negotiate with an employer, particularly the tax payers!
You are FAR better than Obama!!!
007myrn 1 year ago
WAY TO GO OBAMA!!! The price of gas is now up OVER 130% under Obama, $1.65 per gallon when he took office, today its $3.85, source, AAAdotcom. Like the imbecile said, “Under my plan, the price of energy will necessarily skyrocket.” “Change someone doing 350 mg of Phendimetrazine a day can believe in!!!!” I KNOW, IT’S ALL BUSH’S FAULT, ROFL!!!
timytim4prez 1 year ago
You are a SCUMBAG. Those fucking teachers are making 48k a year, which is a PISS POOR salary. Kick yourself to the curb Walker, you and the rest of the GOP are scum and are on your way out. Just wait until 2012
TheLittlelamb3 1 year ago
@TheLittlelamb3 48k is not a piss poor wage.
frio109 1 year ago
and im sure he himself will not take a pay cut as will. lol loser
turpincody 1 year ago
Kill the Bill! Kill the Bill! Kill the Bill! RECAL WALKER Kill the Bill! Kill the Bill! Kill the Bill! RECAL WALKER Kill the Bill! Kill the Bill! Kill the Bill! RECAL WALKER! Republican new support is evil!
RememberTheMemory 1 year ago
Kill the Bill! Kill the Bill! Kill the Bill! RECAL WALKER Kill the Bill! Kill the Bill! Kill the Bill! RECAL WALKER Kill the Bill! Kill the Bill! Kill the Bill! RECAL WALKER!
RememberTheMemory 1 year ago
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UW MADISON HAS BEEN OCCUPIED BY STUDENTS
this is a list of their INSANE demands
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weshoulddoitbig 1 year ago
Liberals suck!
newalm 1 year ago
imaginesc4 1 year ago
Great News.... The Ohio Senate passed a bill to restrict Unions. Great work, lets get the rest of the states on board.
mediaphotographer 1 year ago
This idiot already admitted he ballanced the State budget on the backs of working people by eliminating middle income gov't jobs. OMG what else is it going to take to expose this Tea Baggin Replublitard??? He's well on his way to eliminating the middle class in WIS. The only thing standing in his way are the UNOINS. Now he's out to destroy other working class families...If ever a time for solidarity has existed it is NOW!!! WIS is a great State, don't let him take it down the tubes!!!
CComb501 1 year ago
The "Real Deal"; They were on track to have a $121 M SURPLUS in the budget, The Governor then gives away over $140 M in "Tax Breaks" to business that suported him in his Election. Now he has the entire Union watching and if he breaks the Unions, guess what happens in every OTHER State the very next day?
Yeah.
TheLastDeity 1 year ago
This guy is so retarded
webmoss 1 year ago
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What I think is funny is the Unions have invested their pensions in Koch Industries, LOL, is that rich or what? The very person they HATE, is who they have invested their pensions. According to the State of Wisconsin Investment Board (SWIB), the Wisconsin Retirement System owns $5.5 million in Georgia Pacific corporate bonds. (Georgia Pacific is owned by Koch Industries.) and now the unions want to boycott GP? LOL, Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. IDIOTS.
lesatseaside 1 year ago
The voters wanted you to abuse your power, you dumb cunt?! Have you ever studied about the tyranny of the majority, you dumb cunt?! Well, you'll learn how strong a majority can be when they toss you out of that tax-payer provided governor's mansion and onto your BABY HUEY ASS!
Dumb dumb governor.. Fucking DUMB governor..
parafleet 1 year ago
@parafleet Majority rules!!!!!!!
mediaphotographer 1 year ago
@mediaphotographer Study the tyranny of the majority. Guess what? If you allow yourself to be benefitted by unfair majority votes, you also must experience the opposite one day because the other side will not rest until they gain a sort of vengeance. The tyranny of the majority starts a vicious trend in democratic politics. Rest assured, your turn is coming. Many who didn't vote for either Barrett or Walker are against Walker's turn against the common man in favor of billionaires.
parafleet 1 year ago
@parakeet MAJORITY RULES!!!!! also get you emotional sophomoric rantings out of the way and present real facts if you dare. Ok CupCake?
mediaphotographer 1 year ago
The price of gas is now up 109% under Obama, $1.65 per gallon when he took office, today its $3.43, source, AAAdotcom. Like the imbecile said, “Under my plan, the price of energy will necessarily skyrocket.” “Change someone doing 350 mg of Phendimetrazine a day can believe in!!!!” OBAMA IS DESTROYING AMERICA
timytim4prez 1 year ago 2
@timytim4prez Thank you, Are you better off today or better off four years ago?
mediaphotographer 1 year ago
@mediaphotographer IS this a trick question?? nobody is better off today then they were 4 years ago
timytim4prez 1 year ago
@timytim4prez No it is not a trick question. It as a question of truth. You are right. Easy wasn't it? We are are worst off, due to the failed policies of this administration.
mediaphotographer 1 year ago
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@parakeet MAJORITY RULES!!!!! also get your emotional sophomoric rantings out of the way and present real facts, if you dare. Ok CupCake?
mediaphotographer 1 year ago
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@paraketfeet Majority rules!!!!!!!
mediaphotographer 1 year ago
About time there was some sensible leadership or else goodbye USA.
Chongalulu 1 year ago
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Walker, get your ass out of the tax payer furnished Wisconsin governor's mansion right now! We are cutting costs, starting with your freebooting ass!
parafleet 1 year ago
The Republican platform promised continued prosperity with lower taxes.
This was excerpt from HOOVER's campaign, 1928.
Sound familiar?
1911arthur 1 year ago
@1911arthur Of course, thanks. Americans are stupid nowadays, and nobody cares a tit to learn the lessons of history. I think it's about time to invade Vietnam.
parafleet 1 year ago
@parafleet Nope been there, done that. We won ALL our battles, But lost the war to dope smokng commuist protesters and headband wearing liberal hippies.
mediaphotographer 1 year ago
The twerp is such a twit. Needs to be bitch slapped upside his pointed head. Repeatedly.
dontmesswithbill23 1 year ago
Most folks appear to miss the real point in the argument that Walker has so eagerly promoted. The Republican plan was & is to de-fund government, in favor of their Corporatist co-conspirators who amply financed the "campaign" from Day 1. Their devious plan, initiated during Ronnie Ray-gun's reign as Emperor in Chief, has continued almost unabated - even through the Clinton years. The IRS system's credits & deductions eliminate the wealthy fat cats from most taxes . And yet they whine...
dontmesswithbill23 1 year ago
scott walker is a koch sucker
AnotherWob 1 year ago
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The individual has "not rights but only duties." HILTER Were getting there. Thanks to the Scott Walker's, Tea Party, Fox News.
zduhon 1 year ago
."The individual has "no rights but only duties" HILTER wait wait was it Hilter or was it Scott Walker?
zduhon 1 year ago
UNION BUSTING....UNION BUSTING....UNION BUSTING...UNION BUSTING....UNION BUSTING....UNION BUSTING ....UNION BUSTING......UNION BUSTING.....UNION BUSTING....UNION BUSTING....UNION BUSTING....UNION BUSTING....UNION BUSTING....UNION BUSTING...UNION BUSTING.....UNION BUSTING.....UNION BUSTING FOR THE ONLY PURPOSE OF ENHANCING WALKER'S RUN FOR THE WHITE HOUSE SIMPLE AS THAT!!!!!! WHO CARES ABOUT THE BUDGET OR THE FUTURE....A POLITICIAN CARING ABOUT THE FURURE GENERATIONS????? WAKE UP PEOPLE....
besamemucho5 1 year ago
In an ill-fated escapade in Milwaukee County, Walker outsourced decent-paying Wisconsin government jobs to a foreign corporation. Wackenhut (now called G4S) has offices in Jupiter, Florida, but it is owned by a Danish security firm called Group 4 Falck, which bought Wackenhut Corporation in 2002. Another international company that partly owned Wackenhut, Securicor, is based in the United Kingdom. He didn't even outsource the jobs to a Wisconsin based-business.
zoomustard 1 year ago
@steelersX01 right now it seems they are on strike... if they are salary employees then yes, we are paying them to not work but the googled facts and ACT/SAT scores prove when working they do their job above the national average. Oh, if they do actually commit a fireable act under their contract firing them is easy!
4889870 1 year ago
THE GRAVY TRAIN IS OVER
mcslowlife 1 year ago
The MacIverInstitue is RUN by the Koch Brothers, so be careful. Details here:
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thedemocraticdaily. com /2011/02/21/water-tea-or-koch/
Tnoy34rt 1 year ago
@Tnoy34rt George Soros is running the left......New York Times
mediaphotographer 1 year ago
@robokc1985 any other claims about this union on this issue with these teachers being abusive power, over paid, mob bosses is a bold face fantasy. The cost of firing bad teachers never was the issue! Radicals talk of unions as if they are a enitity...there not. Unions are employees. Yes they pay dues and those dues are spent in their intrest!
4889870 1 year ago
@4889870 In my opinion I think that unions and their leaders are abusing the powers they have been given and should have some of the powers taken away from them. If everything was great in Wisconsin and public employee unions where helping make everything great and had been doing there part to balance the budget then I don’t think this would have gotten to where it is now. I don’t think Unions should be allowed to force anybody to join a union or be able to dictate who can and can’t be fired.
robokc1985 1 year ago
rid not ride haha i type faster than i can spell check
robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 I allowed my participation here to be skewed to see where everyone stood. However the facts remain...this union, these teachers, this issue IS NOT abuse of power. In public Walker claims his stand is to bal the budget and in private he admits he's trying to bust the union and hopes others follow
4889870 1 year ago
@4889870 Well from where i stand what he is doing is right even if his own reasons are misguided. Unions have more power than they are able to use responsibly. When it cost thosands of dollars to get ride of a bad employee or teacher and they protect them even when they are clearly wrong and should lose their employment what choices are left on the table.I believe you said Unions are democrats and republicans but you might not come to that conclusion if you look at their political spending.
robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 if you are found guilty of the crimes you claim happened you WOULD OF been found guilt of a federal crime and yes, would lose your teachers certificate. I suspect you have the facts wrong or are connected to the case and have partizan feelings to the issues
4889870 1 year ago
@robokc1985 you cannot be a teacher without a teachers certificate and you can't get or keep one as a felon and NO union can change that...period! Besides...you still haven't been able to dispute my facts in the web pages I cited! P.S. If you are truly a bad teacher and break "contracts of your job"..yes you should be fired
4889870 1 year ago
@4889870 I don’t plan on disproving any facts you have cited. I only plan on showing that unions are abusing the power they have and something must be done. I’m glade you’re reasonable and can actually say that. Do you think it should cost over 100,000 dollars to fire a bad teacher in any state? You came into this comment section at a very bitter time. I was being just as unreasonable as the other guy because it really didn’t matter what i said he was going to attack it and insult me.
robokc1985 1 year ago
@4889870 -Yes, but instead they are paid not to teach. A person on death row will be executed before you can get rid of a puke teacher.
steelersX01 1 year ago
@robokc1985 sir, you may have listed court cases where unions supported the actions of a teachers lawyer however, unions are not lawyers or jury's or judges! If a person you wish to call teacher a pedophile and a jury said otherwise then the LAW supported the teacher..not the union! Therefore the facts say he's NOT even if you ignor the law
4889870 1 year ago
@4889870 That’s why he is serving 20 years after being allowed to be a teacher for an additional 10 years. When it could have been stopped before more children where hurt. The unions forced the school to rehire Robert C. Devaney after he had been fired for making sexual overtures to a special needs student. Now that’s power
robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 I supplied web sites that clearly state (non partizanly) the effectiveness of Wi teachers and compares their TRUE salaries to 26 other higher paid states and you still say they are abusing their power. After Walkers recorded phone call it's clear who is abusing the power!
4889870 1 year ago
@4889870 Seriously, forget it. He disregards anything he doesn't want to hear. It's that pleasant, magical certainty that comes from self-denial. I've been laughing at him for days now, but it's gotten boring. You can only watch a clown act so many times before it becomes as dull as a weather report.
wuezili 1 year ago
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@robokc1985 you still fail to accept the fact that these union thugs (teachers) you speak of (well over 60 thousand protesting) ARE in fact TAX PAYERS! They ARE in fact both conservatives AND liberals! They are in fact not as well off as anti union radicals want the rest of the nation to know!
4889870 1 year ago
@robokc1985 you still fail to accept the fact that these union thugs (teachers) you speak of (well over 60 thousand protesting) ARE in fact TAX PAYERS! They ARE in fact both conservatives AND liberals! They are in fact not as well off as anti union radicals want the rest of the nation to know!
4889870 1 year ago
@4889870 Taxpayers that pay taxes with the tax dollars they get paid with. Which is stupid I myself would go as far to say that if you are in the military or collect a check that the taxpayer writes you should be tax exempt and have your wages offset accordingly. But like I said before if Unions were not abusing the power they have then this would not be an issue
robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 it was juvinile at best but had nothing with her job so the union backed her up! If the pedophile was convicted... the law would not allow he or she to have a teachers certificate. Nothing the union could do!
4889870 1 year ago
@robokc1985 radicals are known for not telling the whole truth. If indeed the law is broken the union will NOT intervene! Such as the teacher in Mo that sent nude photos from a home computer to a friend. Her ex husband stole the computer and gave the photos to the school. She was fired....
4889870 1 year ago
@robokc1985 and for your ugly dog comment: the fact Wi teachers prepared their students to score so high in the nation CAN NOT be disregarded. Facts are facts. Let's be honest..this is less about education and balancing the budget and more about busting the union like Walker was recorded saying!
4889870 1 year ago
@4889870 Teachers are paid a fair wage for what they do. I don’t necessarily want teachers to get paid less or lose any benefits but they should not be receiving better treatment than the taxpayers. What i want is unions to be put in their place and to stop protecting bad teachers and making it cost up to 300,000 dollars in some cases to fire a bad teacher. Unions are abusing their power and when that happens then it is necessary to take away the power they are abusing and using irresponsibly.
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robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 and let's not leave out that there is 26 other states that teachers salaries are higher than Wisconsin $46,390. California, Alaska and Hawaii we can excuse for cost of living but Rhode Island $54,730- only 17 states out of 50 had more students participate. That's not to say the didn't take the test the following year.
4889870 1 year ago
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@4889870 When a Union protects a pedophile than its time to look at what the union really stands for.
("Robert C. Devaney")
robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 and as for your statement "cream of the crop".....there is none. EVERYONE students that is....take one test or the other! The National Education Association doesn't save these test for only the gifted! And as you can see from the 'teachers portal' your yearly pay as well as radio talkshow host is padded!
4889870 1 year ago
@4889870 And having the best test scores in this country is like winning the least ugly dog contest.
robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 yup..the rest of the state took ACT exam in which nationally students ranked well above average: act. org/ news/ data/ 10/states. html take out the spaces then let's get our the correct numbers on their starting and ave pay: teacherportal. com/ teacher- salaries- by- state
4889870 1 year ago
@4889870 ACT partcipation rate 69% it was tied for 17th
robokc1985 1 year ago
I see now, because 1 in 20 LA teachers can't perform, you want the others to all lose their benefits and security. I also see an angry, hateful guy(you)who perceives himself as some sort of victim in all of this, and wants revenge. And also, how would shoring up this hole in the system possibly help the economy, when the budgetary problems of the state are, literally, more than a thousand times greater than the money changing hands in these lawsuits. How in the world is this a priority now?
wuezili 1 year ago
@wuezili Well it wouldn’t be an issue if the unions didn’t abuse their power and bankrupt the system + rob the children of their education. Without unions the great teachers will be rewarded accordingly and the bad teachers will be fired. With unions you can be the best teacher in the country and get fired from your job because you don’t have seniority HMMmmmmmm that’s flawed firing a great teacher because they don’t have tenure or haven’t worked at the school long enough and yes it has happened
robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 Yes, and if we abolished the unions all the hungry would be fed, the south would rise again, and angels would flutter about as children laughed and played in the sunshine. Yes, once again, there was just ONE thing wrong with whole system.
Pardon me if I laugh at your simplistic ideas spoon-fed to you by various blogs and half-assed right wing news sources.
wuezili 1 year ago
@robokc1985 "unions protect bad teachers". Huh? I'm a conservative that isn't necessary pro union but I am proeducation! FACT is: unions are conservatives and liberals!, Wi has 2nd highest 2009 SAT scores in nation, teachers are 2nd lowest starting pay in nation, and only rank 24th in nation on pay & benefits despite reports of radio hosts
4889870 1 year ago
robokc1985 "..unions protect bad teachers". I'm a conservative that isn't necessary pro union but I AM pro education! FACTs googled: 2009 Wisconsin had 2nd highest in nation SAT scores, Wi new teachers 2nd lowest starting pay in nation and rank only 24th in nation benefits & Pay despite what radical radio host say.
4889870 1 year ago
@4889870 Fact in wisconsin only 4% the cream of the crop took the sat in other states the numbers are much higher. So to say that Wisconsin has the 3rd highest SAT scores is more than flawed. Fact Wisconsin, teaching salaries averaged $52,644 in 2009-10, according to the National Education Association. Thats more than fair for 9 months of work.
robokc1985 1 year ago
@alyomaya Our educational system use to be the best in the world & then came along teacher unions & tenure making teachers check collectors rather then educators! Public union teachers are the roman circus friend! Public Union schools are about teachers & what they get not about the kids they are supposed to care about!
Prove me wrong?
joe035 1 year ago
1) Results in Charter Schools might be better because the parents that made the effort to get them into the school are more likely to take an interest in the day to day performance of their child 2)70% of families have dual incomes. Who is doing homework with their child? Go to the gym and eat McDonald's later=no results. Kids go home and feast on TV, video games, social networking...Want better results? Get kids to improve study habits, and do homework!
fleibow 1 year ago
@alyomaya I would take paying for the jets rather continue the funding of the public unions that have brought what was once the best education in the world to where it is now. Teachers are overpaid if you look at the results of their labors. If they were a business they would have been bankrupt long ago! Fortunately they can buy democrat politicians to negotiate their contracts with! Charter schools have proven public union schools are a bottomless pit of misspent money!
joe035 1 year ago
@joe035 Right, right. One group of people are to blame for EVERYTHING. Typical hysterical garbage. Of course, you don't actually look up the facts, you just regurgitate what someone else who doesn't know what they are talking about said.
NATIONAL CENTER FOR EDUCATIONAL STATISTICS website -' In reading, as in mathematics, the performance of fourth-grade students with similar racial/ethnic backgrounds in charter schools and other public schools was not measurably different.'
wuezili 1 year ago
@wuezili WRONG Charter schools have overwhelmingly out performed public union ran schools nationally. You have to enter a lottery to get in, not everybody is excited about sending their kids to public schools with history of failure thanks to teachers with tenure. "check collectors"
joe035 1 year ago
@joe035 HAHA! "WRONG Charter schools have overwhelmingly out performed public union ran schools nationally."
And you base that on what? Did jesus do a study? No? Bill O'reilly? Jesus O'reilly? Show me his results.
Oh wait, a friend of yours heard from somebody that charter schools outperform public schools, right? And he wouldn't lie to you, right?
You guys are all the same. When you like the sound of something, you never let it go. Reality is your enemy, for certain.
wuezili 1 year ago
@alyomaya I know. They've always got someone new to blame. Unions breaking the budget? It's ridiculous.
wuezili 1 year ago
@alyomaya I enjoy this, friend, since I typically have to go against simple rhetoric and propaganda from the (R) party.
GodChristLord 1 year ago
@alyomaya Well I will agree that Unions WHERE important and at one point i thought they were a good thing. But now as i see unions using and abusing the power they have been in trusted with and becoming less and less reasonable and are becoming more like a leach that is just trying to suck as much as they can from the host until it dies. I would say unions and laws dealing with them need to be reformed because the damage that is being done is not tolerable anymore.
robokc1985 1 year ago
God how many Bailouts has GM had?
robokc1985 1 year ago
This Walker has committed political suicide, rubbing the wounds of a politically divided state. This Walker is a man who needs to punish "enemies" instead of work for the best interests of all. As long as people follow this Walker, he will lead them astray.
parafleet 1 year ago 5
@parafleet This freedom train ain't gonna stop for crybaby libs. This is just the start. We are pulling beaucoup freight cars. Freedom from bullshit unions has spread like wildfire. Quicker than wrong "queer rights." Pulling Obama out is next. Cutting all foreign aid at same time. Power to the people!
Glinkaism1 1 year ago
@Glinkaism1 Wow, when you say freedom, it sounds a whole lot like 'DUH'.
61% of the country opposes the measures being taken in Wis. 33% support them. Where is this wildfire, exactly?
wuezili 1 year ago
Attention all good workers of Wisconsin. If Walker gets a legal victory here that goes against workers, teachers, firefighters, police, etc., you are welcome to COME AND LIVE in states like Illinois, Iowa, Missouri, Minnesota, Indiana, etc., and get a job. Good workers can leave and relocate to continue their careers.
GodChristLord 1 year ago
@GodChristLord Yeah you see the opposite is true UNIONS protect BAD workers.SOOOO when the unions go down in a state the GOOD workers get PAID more and advanced FASTER and the BAD workers get FIRED. IF you need a union to hold down a job then i would say GET YOUR LAZY GOOD FOR NOTHING OVER COMPENSATED ASS OUT OF MY STATE.
robokc1985 1 year ago 3
@robokc1985 You don't know a thing about unions!
GodChristLord 1 year ago
@GodChristLord O I dont hmmmmmmm Well Have you looked at the shcool system or seen the videos of Tenured Teachers sitting in a class reading a newspaper instead of teaching and when the school fires them the Unions Force the school to re-hire them. I think you are the one that doesnt know a thing about Unions.
robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 Smart-mouth, my union-lineage goes back 2 centuries. Maybe if you put a cork in it, I could tell you a few things.
GodChristLord 1 year ago
@GodChristLord Yeah well unions have done good to bad it’s being overshadowed with the damage they are doing in the school system manufacturing and helping public employees totally get over on and screw the tax payer. Why is it everytime a big company just so happens to need a BAIL OUT it is a UNION company?
robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 You (R)'s are all the same. I hope you fragment and become more divisive by connecting with the Tea Party.
GodChristLord 1 year ago
@GodChristLord Im not a republican im a Libertarian
robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 I am an Independent and wholly for the American worker in regard to Corporate America. I do not see the Federal Government as a problem; I still see it as mighty.
GodChristLord 1 year ago
@GodChristLord If more people spoke out against the to big to fail bailouts & governments inability to exist within a budget maybe the spotlight wouldn't be on how well teachers are compensated despite their piss poor results? Not that all teacher are bad educators but they all seem to support tenure which makes those who are unfireable.
joe035 1 year ago
@joe035 Fellow, you made an insignificant point.
Sunshineatdusk 1 year ago
@Sunshineatdusk Reference the point you object to so I can clarify it for you?
joe035 1 year ago
@GodChristLord Of course he doesn't. He doesn't know a thing about taxes, government, politics, economics, history, science, etc. He doesn't know ANYTHING.
wuezili 1 year ago
@robokc1985 The truth about state workers compensation, by David Cay Johnston, former tax reporter for the New York Times. 'Out of every dollar that funds Wisconsin' s pension and health insurance plans for state workers, 100 cents comes from the state workers.
How can that be? Because the “contributions” consist of money that employees chose to take as deferred wages – as pensions when they retire – rather than take immediately in cash. The same is true with the health care plan. '(cont.)
wuezili 1 year ago
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robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 MORE HERE - "Thus, state workers are not being asked to simply "contribute more" to Wisconsin' s retirement system (or as the argument goes, "pay their fair share" of retirement costs as do employees in Wisconsin' s private sector who still have pensions and health insurance). They are being asked to accept a cut in their salaries so that the state of Wisconsin can use the money to fill the hole left by tax cuts and reduced audits of corporations in Wisconsin. "
wuezili 1 year ago
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@wuezili Your so stupid are you really going to QUOTE some liberal BULLSHIT artist. WELL hmmmmmmmm WHO FUNDS THE STATE NOT STATE WORKERS JERK OFF. TAXPAYERS PAY THE STATE WORKERS SO TAXPAYERS PAY FOR THE PENSIONS THAT ARE BANKRUPTING THE STATE AND ARE BETTER THAN WHAT THE TAXPAYERS RECIEVE. State workers are no better than private sector workers and should never recieve better benefits than the majority of the taxpayers
robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 LOL! What a load of jibberish! Pensions bankrupting the state! You'll say anything! Believe anything you're told to! This is unfair, you're too stupid to say anything substantive. You've nothing to offer but knee jerk reactions, bullshit conservative memes, ridiculous anecdotes. When you said 'Have you been to the DMV...' I honestly slapped my knee! That has got to be the lowest point of this 'debate'.
You're such a loser.
wuezili 1 year ago
@wuezili If I’m stupid then you are mentally retarded. You can’t even give a straight answer. Hey what’s a fair tax? Hey do you think it’s a good idea to cut military spending do you even want this country to have a balanced budget? I doubt you could care less so long as whatever happens doesn’t affect you. Good thing the American people are voting liberal dumbasses out of office. You haven’t even agreed that bad teachers should get fired. Good thing your completely irrelevant.
robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 HAHA! If you don't understand the citations I've given you. JUST ADMIT IT. I'll walk you through them, just like the way the nice firemen help you down from trees when loud noises scare you and you go into one of your simian panics.
By the way, fire departments are socialist.
wuezili 1 year ago
@robokc1985 From THE ECONOMIC POLICY INSTITUTE - 'On average, state and local public-sector workers are more highly educated than the private-sector
workforce; 54% of full-time state and local public sector
workers hold at least a four year college degree compared
to 35% of full-time private-sector workers. State and local
governments pay college-educated labor on average 25%
less than private employers.'
wuezili 1 year ago
@wuezili You are so wrong it’s laughable. Have you been to the DMV or i don’t know any government agency. The biggest idiots in the world work there and hide behind a union. I would be interested to see the statistics on how many state workers PAID FOR THEIR OWN EDJUCATION it wouldn’t surprise me if the taxpayer is on the hook for 100% of that to. Anybody who has dealt with the government which is everybody can tell just how full of shit you are.
robokc1985 1 year ago
@wuezili Hey i was in the army I made 24k a year and got SHOT AT. You are never going to justify a teacher making 50+k a year for sitting on their asses in a heated and air conditioned room not even teaching in some cases being protected by a corrupt union when soldiers who fight and die for this country don’t get paid DICK but i bet you would love to see military spending cut wouldn’t you because all you care about is YOURSELF
robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 They have EDUCATIONS you freakin' moron! Workers with educations make more money, in the public and private sectors, both. And no war since WW2 has done anything to secure our freedoms. My father would tell you the same thing had he not died in a VA hospital. He was a marine, a doctor, and proud of both, as I was of him.
Why not take a gander at the money we've wasted in the middle east - TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS! And the only returns americans have seen are higher gasoline prices!
wuezili 1 year ago 6
@wuezili You are absolutely right! Limp wrist whinny liberals now have the government feeding tube taken away, PERMANENTLY. Cut off ALL foreign aid. The USA has the largest amount of ACCESSIBLE crude oil in the ENTIRE world. Russia has the most by land mass. But most of it is inaccessible because of their backward methods. We are smarter. USA can be SELF-SUSTAINING in oil and all food resources. Let the muddly yeast sluts come to us! Get rid of pro-fag Obama, too. Scott Walker for Prez in 2012!
Glinkaism1 1 year ago
@Glinkaism1 Okay, let me get this straight, not only are unions, democrats and gays to blame for the state of the country, but now you want to bring russia back into the equation? Why not John Lennon? He's just as dead the USSR.
wuezili 1 year ago
@wuezili Yeah i have a degree in applied science I know what education does for my bank account To bad liberals like yourself protect unions that protect bad teachers that are failing the students and create drop out factories so they never even have a chance at college. But hey liberals don’t mean to keep inner city schools bad on purpose they just can’t fire the bad teacher because it would make their union bankroll angry. But hey all you care about is yourself and union power
robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 Please, show evidence that anything you've just said is true. I can't just keep pointing out how dumb you are, it's getting old. That, at least, has been proven without a doubt.
wuezili 1 year ago
@wuezili Do you live underneath a rock?
robokc1985 1 year ago 6
@wuezili Google dance of the lemons and you will find more evidence then you will know what to do with or you can go to this hoover digest article "hoover. org/ publications/ hoover-digest/ article/ 7425" take out the spaces
robokc1985 1 year ago
@wuezili Here is a little excerpt from the article "National Education Association president Bob Chase, undaunted by the news that more than half of Massachusetts teachers had failed their competency tests, characterizes the problem of bad teachers as a matter of “a few bad apples.” "
robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 Imagine, Peter Schweizer, a man who works for the hoover institute, a republican think tank funded by such labor loving companies as J.P. Morgan, Boeing, Ford, GM, Chrysler, Merril Lynch and Exxon says 50 percent of Mass. teachers fail a competency test. He's talking about a test that was designed poorly, "Fundamental defects may explain why those who failed include an MIT graduate and Fulbright scholar, several high-tech engineers, and dozens of experienced teachers... "
wuezili 1 year ago
@wuezili Ha-ha a republican think tank is at nbc? Because he has worked for them. You’re full of it. Hey so i guess you’re not going to answer a single question i have asked you. Like i said before you only insult you don’t even have an argument. You are irrelevant.
robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 What a hypocrite! You ignored an article I cited by a new york times economics reporter. But when you cite an article by the man who wrote 'Do as I Say (Not as I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy ' which was praised by notorious liar bill o'reilly, you expect me to waste my time.
You're a flea. And you've answered 1 out of 10 questions of mine with 'uh libs duh unions uh duh unions again.' Repetitive nonsense, bullshit ravings and contrarian wailings are all you've got to offer.
wuezili 1 year ago
@wuezili I think you’re mad because I supplied evidence that destroyed everything you were fighting for. The article you cited is very easy to contradict. I supplied COURT cases and REAL evidence more than you have done. And what question is it you have asked that I didn’t answer?
robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 Evidence? You find one article from a specious source, citing the infamous MTT test of the late 90's as proof of something totally debunked, and you're satisfied. This why the red states are poorer, have the highest unemployment rates, the lowest test scores, the most pregnant teens, high school dropouts, junkies,criminals, and adulterous millionaire preachers, because you simply don't care about truth. One suspicious word from a conservative con man and you've got you march
wuezili 1 year ago
@robokc1985 Btw, it would take a month to back track and find all the questions you simply ignored with unfounded rantings. You actually looking up an article was surprising, even if it was a turd.
wuezili 1 year ago
@wuezili Thats funny i went back and still havent found a question i havent answered. You supplied 1 article. The rest I supplied the information and told you were to find it. Like i said before all you have are insults. You wont even say that bad teachers should be fired. You wont even answer a yes or no question. I have told you where to look and I gave you an aritlce that sums of a lot of what is out their. You are beyond reason.
robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 Hey here is an exercise for you. Approach a union leader and ask him to let companies fire all the bad teachers and employees and see how perceptive he is to the suggestion.
robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 Bad employees, of any vocation, should be fired. Your dozens of replies of 'DAMN LIBS LIARS BLEGH' were not answers. They cited no references, or empirical evidence, and read like a toddler typing two-fingered.
And I've not only referenced articles, but official scientific studies and polls, as well. A waste of time, apparently.
I'll humbly allow you the last word, although I won't be reading it. You're self-assured, rhetoric-fueled ignorance has lost its appeal. Toodles.
wuezili 1 year ago
@wuezili You attack my grammar too bad you don’t scrutinize your own as well
robokc1985 1 year ago
@robokc1985 Your correct in that all this ass clown can do is scruntize spelling, thats all that midget moron has to offer sadly to say.Semper Fi
mediaphotographer 1 year ago
@wuezili -but union employees are not fired...they are protected by the union which are funded with taxpayer money! ALL PUBLIC SECTOR unions are scum and need eradicated in every state.
steelersX01 1 year ago