I'd make sure the scale is calibrated with an American Certified weight, as the Chinese Scales and Calibration weights may all be manipulated to show a weight matching a real coin, when weight a fake one.
I like the big time, well respected companies that sell on Ebay. There are probably better companies that offer lower premiums, but Ebay has worked great for me.
you can notice fake pandas also if you look at details of them. the biggest indicator is that there is no juan sign. And if you look at fake pandas in this videoyou can see there is missing yuan sign.
There is ofcourse also better fake pandas, but there a are lot of sites where you can check if its real panda or not
@edwardwills APMEX is a great company.. Their prices are competitive and their shipping is bullutproof. Their shipping is a little high but, not too bad..
Found Four or them In Vancouver.Morgans the weight felt off and sound of them was different-.I was told they were from Hong Kong- Instills confidence In purchasing Pandas
jmcadg ..you seem v defensive in your response, whats your angle in the silver game? bit of pump and dump maybe? so ..let me get this straight .. your telling me max keiser is doing this out of goodwill? he is recieving a ROYALTY from his image being used .. WAKE UP DUDE .. he is riding the silver bubble and milking it to the limit. when it blows he'll move on to the next 'campaign' aka SCAM.
max keiser is a fraud. dont believe his lies and misinformation on silver as he owns a company selling silver coins, 'silver keisers'. he has turned out to be just another parasite feeding on the american people. he makes up things like jp would crash if silver reached $47 and its still going, and hes gone v quiet about it.
@visionary1100 YOU IDIOT. Max Keiser doesn't sell the coins. He makes nothing from it. Get your facts straight. He's no fraud. Without Max many people would still be unaware of the greed that is manifest in TPTB.
You obviously don't know your arse from your elbow. Loser.
max keiser is a fraud. dont believe his lies and misinformation on silver as he owns a company selling silver coins, 'silver keisers'. he has turned out to be just another parasite feeding on the american people. he makes up things like jp would crash if silver reached $47 and its still going, and hes gone v quiet about it.
Great video. I have lots of experience buying silver and gold in China. Based on my previous experiences, I know the gold & silver shops that have the REAL stuff. One one occasion I asked the merchant to show me the packaging from the mint. They did, and I could see the sheets in packaging sealed along with the address on the box from the mint. Also, as with most all things - if the price looks too good to be true, it probably is!
Perhaps they will make a lead/crap alloy soon that weighs the same per volume as silver. Perhaps they already do. I don't know how the dealers assay their purchases from non-producers; I assume they melt some down and chemically test it.
@BossHoneycutt i read there is a way using bout a half oz of real siver on fake 1oz round, but sound test and weight test both wont be right if its fake most likely
Well Ebay got got me on the 5 fake "Morgan, He shut down and was gone be for Ebay or my self could stop him. check your coins time you get them at time i did not have a scale I DO NOW
to the fake coins being made to mimick exact weight.....adding a micrometer should produce a thinner or thicker number,just make sure to get the correct real bullion coin measurement and add to the exact weight measure=real coin
i have to agree with you on the monarch bars they are beauties! i love the Medieval look to them the appearance of human craftsmanship has something machine precision milled products cant match. Where do you get them by the way from a local dealer or Monarch Metals directly?
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I bought a 20 ounce silver bar from ebay last summer, with paypal buyer protection, it was way under spot, stupid move... I got it, it weighed 20 ounces but its density was way off, it was too big for 20 ounces. I took it to an official jeweler to asses it officially and started a paypal claim when it was proved to be fake,,, phew, got all my money back except for shippwing fee back to the seller, I marked FAKE all over the bar with a perm marker heheh, basterd. +1 to paypal. ha.
Silver also sings ! The ping test as he said. Tho yes, please have that scale! Good question tho.... would there be fake 1922 liberties or morgan coins ? Cause you can't dirty a new coin to make it look old.
i don't think just by weighing them will tell u if they are silver EVCEN acid test will not tell u how much the silver content is for that reason i will not buy any more coins on theNet Ebay etc but there are Bullion dealers in the uk who only buy their coins from official mints on their side for the Britanians they spell it minted by the Royial Mint n that is the Best guarante on earth for me i asked how about the other coins Rply we only buy from official Mints n pre 47 Br. coins are also best
@polygamous1 Silver, for a given weight, takes up a given amount of space. If they use another metal, it will not take up the same amount of space and weigh the same. The fake pandas he's showing are the same size as normal pandas, but filled with some other metal, hence less weight. If they made the fake pandas to be the same weight, the coins would have to be bigger.
Would'nt it be easy for fakers to make a fake that was the right weight ? It seems that spotting fakes needs to include more than weight. You can feel the weight difference without a scale if you are used to handling real coins - like you can feel a pre64 silver coin (dime /quarter) in handful of newer change-- just stands out by feel and sound.
That was really good advice, thanks for that. Two questions re the fake stuff: 1. even though the silver is light, is it pure? and 2. is the fake morgan counterfeit, and does it have some numismatic value as such?
@Barnekkid the coins are entirely fake (minus a very thin silver plate which is worthless) - in fact I'd bet the "Morgan" and the "silver round" were made out of nickel. they have no real silver content!
good vid the prices of silver and gold have gone way up but to resell it you will find you will be paying fees and now the government says you must fill out form on gold for anything over I believe $650. The pawn shops and coin dealers and jewlery stores all will not give you the real value and buying stock is iffy as well, but silver is a good investment I have bought and sold coins for years!
If you're at a store or a show or something, even with a scale, how can you tell that they haven't just made the dimensions of the coin a bit bigger to cover for the loss in weight? I mean without a coin you know to be real, you probably couldn't tell by eye or hand.
Yea yea yea, the Chinese are selling fake silver but ask yourself this question, who started selling fake gold and silver to China and India first? If you said the jewish controlled american banking elites, you would be correct! Ding ding ding, what do we have for the winner Johnny?!?!?!?
You can purchase this scale at the link above. Its the exact same one as in this video. The amazon picture is innacurate. I bought this scale from amazon and its well worth the small amount of money. I hope this helps!
These fakes are horrible because they don't even match the weight stated on the actual coins. Are these common amongst fakes? The easiest method of fooling someone is changing the dimensions of the coin because that isn't stated on the coin. How does one combat the better fakes?
I recently bought from a flea market a silver bar for $33.00,"The American Royal Mint" with a eagle on the front, Limited edition 1776 bicentential 1976.. I saw the .999 on it so assumed it was good. Once i got home I look at it and saw it said (Guaranteed 15 Grains .999 silver).Did I get ripped off or what?.
I was like that guy claimed it was a one ounce silver bar.
Thanks SGT! Big help for everyone! I've been asked this so many times and my methods are too complicated. I'm buying a scale + nitric acid and test stone kit. Still costs under $30. Take care Gary
To everyone: has anyone seen any fake American silver eagles?
A quick way to tell if you have fake pandas is by checking to see if there is the character for currency next to the 10 denomination. Some fake pandas do not have the currency character to avoid getting in trouble for printing counterfeit money in China, since most of these counterfeiters are based in China. I spotted one of your pandas without the character, which automatically tells me its fake.
I've managed to acquire a couple of duds myself over the internet. They were both rounds and your vid uses rounds as an example. In your experience, is it safer to stick with bars? How 'bout Eagles, Philharmonics and Maple Leafs- seen any fakes there? Thanks for your work!
@9deciple YES, just the words. Silver Keisers are .999 silver "rounds"... American silver eagles and canadian maples are silver "coins"... if you buy from the place you mentioned you'll do well if you by anything marked .999 or .9999 fne silver.
Great post. These fakes are getting more and more common. It should also be pointed out that there are not only a lot of underweight chinese silver rounds/bars out there but also many that contain NO SILVER WHATSOEVER. These may be lead or steel, etc, sometimes with a silver plate.
Have you seen the NWO Silver coins that are going around, you can find them on ebay. Who would be the maker of these as they have some very serious writting and messages on them ???
Wow, I never knew this was going on. After watching, I ordered a scale from Amazon for about $12. Thanks for spending the time to do this. I'm sure It's going to save some of us some hard earned money and some grief. Cheers, bud!
@SGTbull07 Another thing is that silver is diamagnetic. If you get a good magnet (not a refrigerator magnet) but a Samarium-Cobalt or Neodymium magnet, and hold the silver at an angle and allow the magnet to slide down the bar or round, it will kind of wiggle it's way down at a slightly slowed pace. If it slides-off really quickly, it's fake. There's prob. Youtube vids on this too.
@EquipaPatriot this video was going to be edited with close ups, etc - but I had major issues getting footage to render. I was lucky to get it posted at all. Sadly, it took 5 hours and multiple attempts to even get it our of Final Cut.
Great video man, thanks to you i started buying physical silver, i am new at this but learning a lot. i am in mexico and only buying libertad coins, really beautiful and heavy. keep up the good work.
Hey SGT, I trust that they still can't produce fakes that pass the 'ring test' yet?
people might not want to do that with their shiny new .999 fine rounds, but I prefer the older morgans and have no qualms dropping them on something solid to hear that beautiful ring.
@SGTbull07 Keep up the good work SGT. We can't reach everyone...but what I learn on here, I try and spread it to my customers that come to my store. I may not be making videos, but I speak to many... and some are already stocking up on food. It's a start. I tell them to buy seeds where ever they can. ORGANIC is a must.
Those "gold" bars sound almost plastic when you drop them. I got a Morgan awhile back on eBay that seemed to have some copper shining thru (I know there's 10% copper, but it looked weird). Threw it on the scale and checked it against 5 known good Morgans (2 I've had since childhood) and it weighed out right. As the Sarge said on Hill Street Blues "let's be careful out there!". Thanks SGT!
@TheVelvetvoicecoach sure bud, you can PM and I will see it for sure, I read and answere every single PM - or you can e-mail me at sgtreport@gmail.com
@SGTbull07 Gotta be apmex for me check out the affiliate program i made £70 ($112 approx) in my first 2 weeks not bad considering it was on the side I turn the money into silver bullion. Great vid thanks alot!
Continuing my prior post, pewter is an alloy of ~~80%-95% tin (specific gravity 7.280) and lead (specific gravity 11.35) and various other metals, copper & antimony. It is *not* a precisely defined mixture. If you think about it, it would be possible to make a "custom" lead-tin or lead-tin-copper alloy that would have almost EXACTLY the specific gravity of silver (10.5) and silver plate it. It would not be much like "traditional" pewter, but the alert I'm sending is valid anyway.
I'll point out one other thing: the fakes you showed were "way" off. Wt is clearly the easiest way to make a real / fake determination. I have also seen Chinese silver = Ag plated pewter or Ag plated lead. If you come across that type of fake and weigh it, you'll be shocked at how close Ag-plated pewter can be to real Ag. So...if you're going to bring a scale, bring a known weight to see if your little scale is off.
Specific gravity silver: 10.50 Lead: 11.35. >Heavier<
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@de225221 "We got into this mess because of Zionist Jews."
= That doesn't change what I said. We got into this mess because selfish motherfuckers were trying to get rich. Zionist or otherwise.
You selfish bastards buying up gold and silver are absolutely no better than Jewish family bankers who started out exactly how this capitalist pig started out.
@69salford69 Somehow, I see you with a swastika tattooed on your forehead. I sir, am buying silver to hedge against inflation...nothing more. And no, am not a Jew. Only a well informed individual that don't want to see my wife and son starve to death when hard times come knocking at our door. Yes, some will try and capitalize, but I don't blame them. Time to reclaim some wealth from greedy banks that raped their own people. And if you a re sore because you can't afford silver? Buy copper.
@ajfelix67 "don't want to see my wife and son starve to death when hard times come knocking at our door"
= Exactly! Selfish as fuck. Just think about YOUR family, because YOUR children can't starve to death but 10 million little brown children in a 3rd World country can die everyday. As long as its not YOUR children or YOUR family who's suffering.
Fuck YOU I don't want your gold or silver!!!! No better than Zionists!!! you fucking selfish capitalist bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@69salford69 "10 million little brown children in a 3rd World country can die everyday"
Why don't you research a bit. People starve around to world because of corrupt regimes and governments. THEY TAKE from the poor...and leave them to the wolves. They try and grow food, and they are plundered. Don't be angry at the whole world because of crooked bastards that steal, and kill to keep power.
I don't want power.... I just want to be able to get by. So... FUCK YOU TOO.
@69salford69 Am by far not selfish. I am gathering seed to help my whole community need we have to plant in the future. Am stocking plenty of dried beans and peas as well... as many around here are blind to what is happening. Am trying to get others to listen and prepare as well. You don't know me...you don't even know where I live. I live on an Island that has has seen it's fair share of poverty and corruption. Be mad at the world all you want. I will help my family and community best I can.
@ajfelix67 your whole community doesn't include me? thanks very much.
You can't eat silver or gold so you buy things with it. How is it any different from having paper money if you've got coinage money??
I don't mean to judge or offend you but I would give you my carrots or marijuana and you can give me your dried beans and peas and there's no need for silver.
If I wanted a big basket full of food I could work a few hours on your island community...selfish gathering of silver is bad
@69salford69 "your whole community doesn't include me? thanks very much."
And you call me selfish? I don't have a crystal ball, so am stocking up in what ever I can currently afford. You make it sound like I have millions invested in silver...when in fact.. is minuscule. I do agree with you on beans and peas to trade...yes....am stocking up on that. Barter is what I will be focusing on. Growing my own vegetables as well. I have enough land that neighbors can plant as well....if they want too.
@ajfelix67 OK it seems I've let my emotions and my prejudice get the better of me. I suppose your silver is your insurance policy. You're not being selfish, just careful....
Maybe I'm wrong about people buying it up but if we had a barter system you wouldn't need the silver....so I can't help but see the collection of silver as a selfish act. You should be putting your effort into bringing down the fascist Government instead of just protecting your immediate relatives / neighbours
@69salford69 Barter systems are great. As for fascist governments? Ya, I have to agree with you. Over regulation is killing us. Remember, all this horded gold and silver by individuals like us, can one day "fund" revolutions. Can't fight with carrots and potatoes, but gold and silver can help gather what is needed to fight one day. Besides, would you rather see corrupt governments with all the silver and gold? Better in the pockets of peasants I think. Hide it, and use it one day to fight.
@ajfelix67 Great way to put your argument accross, man....I feel I've been pretty ignorant on here..
Gold and silver in the hands of the peasents really can't be a bad thing compared to the Governments having it, you're right....I suppose your attitude towards gold or silver is just good sense. You're right you can't fight war with carrots and stuff. I'm sorry for calling you a selfish capitalist you're obviously not
@69salford69 Apology accepted. You have a right to be angry...so does every other person on this Earth. Western society is very young as compared to the old world. And will take something of great magnitude to wake up the sheeple. Maybe it's time that they hit rock bottom and start fresh...and hopefully with better understanding of living beyond one's needs. And hopefully, with newly elected Governments not handpicked by design. Cheer for the peasants with silver... it will rebuild our world.
@ajfelix67 I won't hold my breath for any Governments turning things around, but I'm glad we could have a discussion in the end.
When you say I can't be angry at the whole World because of a minority of crooked officials, part of me agrees with you, but part of me thinks these crooked officials represent ME and are answerable to ME. I am not doing enough to stop them which diminishes my innocence. I am guilty of paying into the system that kills and destroys. I am guilty of these crimes now.
@69salford69 Uprising takes forever, but it does happen when people can take no more. Thank goodness for the internet, for we can finally get the message out there...and people are starting to catch on. The Elitist days off tyranny and Government manipulation are getting fewer each passing day. As more and more videos are posted and people waking up to the truth. One can't change the world... but one can spread the word to MILLIONS. Keep expressing yourself...be heard. A long road ahead of us.
@69salford69 Further more. The little silver I have may come in handy. Am not sure how... but as i said, am stocking up in what ever I can. Even fishing supplies and gardening equipment. That silver could "maybe" buy me a tiller for my garden...who knows? And...if you want to move out here in the middle of the North Atlantic.... sure... look me up. I'd be more then happy to work along side you.
Important topic, shortly to be a growing concern no doubt- out of curiosity what were the fake silver pieces made out of?
I had seen that tungsten was often used for fake silver bars. One test I saw for fake Morgans used a magnet. Reportedly the Morgans coming out of China are often steel.
For those of you don't have a scale handy,the quickest way to tell a real panda from the fake is to check the reeding on the edge of the coin,on the real coin the reeding is on a slight angle all the way around the coin & as for the fake the reeding on the edge is straight all the way around the coin !! also check quality of the date under the steps on reverse & the distance from the stairs ,i hope this helped !!
As for the morgan dollars always use the cart-wheel effect !!
@SGTBull07 I kinda wonder why, if they go to the effort of making such beautiful fakes, they don't use an 80/20 lead/tin alloy, and make the exact same thing with the proper weight... Seems it would be almost as easy as making fakes that don't weigh the right amount.
Good stuff as always. We have to be vigilant as the price moves higher. This could also be a problem if we were to use gold and silver as a medium of exchange. Everyone would need to buy one of them scales.
Also Gibbo, this is more than an ego trip. We can use these coins as a "propaganda tool" to spread the message. I always walk around with an ounce of silver to show people around. It makes monetary theory a bit less of a dry subject.
Just in Case. 1 Troy ounce is 31.15 grams. Thats standard, the place your buying from should have a Scale, and I usually ask, and judge the guy hard if he doesnt. I would never buy a coin in a case like that, gotta take it out and weigh it.
will testing acid damage real .999 fine silver
seandan97 1 week ago
Is that a chinese scale?
theonlyexpert 2 weeks ago
I'd make sure the scale is calibrated with an American Certified weight, as the Chinese Scales and Calibration weights may all be manipulated to show a weight matching a real coin, when weight a fake one.
theonlyexpert 2 weeks ago
I like the big time, well respected companies that sell on Ebay. There are probably better companies that offer lower premiums, but Ebay has worked great for me.
MONOPOLY35 1 month ago
this whole weighing to test authenticity of PMs is not a great way to test.
Just use the acid test for PMs and you will NEVER be wrong.
snapsalot 1 month ago
Really great video. I've been burnt by fake silvers before and did a video about ID of fakes
greenwooddesign 1 month ago
Are you recording while sitting in a boat? Getting sea sick.
YiuTeub 2 months ago 4
you can notice fake pandas also if you look at details of them. the biggest indicator is that there is no juan sign. And if you look at fake pandas in this videoyou can see there is missing yuan sign.
There is ofcourse also better fake pandas, but there a are lot of sites where you can check if its real panda or not
tom3k007 2 months ago
Since someone reminded me to share this video I just ordered one of those scales off of ebay.
thegoodsandwich 3 months ago
China counterfeits is why I say that the Anti-Christ will come from China. LOL.
Volcano2014 5 months ago
So were those "fake" rounds just light weights? worth less or truly fake, no silver at all? worth fuck all?
cobra60six 6 months ago
anyone have any problem with AMPEX?
edwardwills 6 months ago
@edwardwills APMEX is a great company.. Their prices are competitive and their shipping is bullutproof. Their shipping is a little high but, not too bad..
PTTHOR 5 months ago
Don't be fooled with the 100 mil. scam eaither just sayin and thx for posting this video.
ThatOneGuyOnYT 7 months ago
Keep the fake coin, even if it has little to no value. nickle is rising and it still has silver
and copper because those have value but dont buy them
TaylorWilmes 7 months ago
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TaylorWilmes 7 months ago
Found Four or them In Vancouver.Morgans the weight felt off and sound of them was different-.I was told they were from Hong Kong- Instills confidence In purchasing Pandas
FINEDENTIST 7 months ago
Makes you feel less guilty for all that worthless US paper we traded them for it.What goes around comes around.
FINEDENTIST 7 months ago
jmcadg ..you seem v defensive in your response, whats your angle in the silver game? bit of pump and dump maybe? so ..let me get this straight .. your telling me max keiser is doing this out of goodwill? he is recieving a ROYALTY from his image being used .. WAKE UP DUDE .. he is riding the silver bubble and milking it to the limit. when it blows he'll move on to the next 'campaign' aka SCAM.
visionary1100 8 months ago
max keiser is a fraud. dont believe his lies and misinformation on silver as he owns a company selling silver coins, 'silver keisers'. he has turned out to be just another parasite feeding on the american people. he makes up things like jp would crash if silver reached $47 and its still going, and hes gone v quiet about it.
MAX KEISER IS A FRAUD!
visionary1100 8 months ago
@visionary1100 YOU IDIOT. Max Keiser doesn't sell the coins. He makes nothing from it. Get your facts straight. He's no fraud. Without Max many people would still be unaware of the greed that is manifest in TPTB.
You obviously don't know your arse from your elbow. Loser.
jmcadg 8 months ago
max keiser is a fraud. dont believe his lies and misinformation on silver as he owns a company selling silver coins, 'silver keisers'. he has turned out to be just another parasite feeding on the american people. he makes up things like jp would crash if silver reached $47 and its still going, and hes gone v quiet about it.
MAX KEISER IS A FRAUD!
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goldy1011 8 months ago
Great video. I have lots of experience buying silver and gold in China. Based on my previous experiences, I know the gold & silver shops that have the REAL stuff. One one occasion I asked the merchant to show me the packaging from the mint. They did, and I could see the sheets in packaging sealed along with the address on the box from the mint. Also, as with most all things - if the price looks too good to be true, it probably is!
clearasvodka 8 months ago
Perhaps they will make a lead/crap alloy soon that weighs the same per volume as silver. Perhaps they already do. I don't know how the dealers assay their purchases from non-producers; I assume they melt some down and chemically test it.
BossHoneycutt 9 months ago
@BossHoneycutt i read there is a way using bout a half oz of real siver on fake 1oz round, but sound test and weight test both wont be right if its fake most likely
zackrowe1 6 months ago
Bonne technique, qui devrait être connu de tous !
argentmetal 9 months ago
set a metal detector to silver,scratch the coin notice how easy or hard it is to scratch or what color it is when scratched ,sound test it and scale
imatelly 9 months ago
Well Ebay got got me on the 5 fake "Morgan, He shut down and was gone be for Ebay or my self could stop him. check your coins time you get them at time i did not have a scale I DO NOW
TheDBcooper001 9 months ago
@TheDBcooper001 only buy SEALED pamp suisse bars off of ebay, they have a tracable pin number on the package
phroto13 9 months ago
Thank you for this video!
friscioni12 9 months ago
What happens when they make a fake silver coin that does weight 1.2 ounces with the case? Are we fucked then?
Pexterable 9 months ago
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GotSilver100 9 months ago
to the fake coins being made to mimick exact weight.....adding a micrometer should produce a thinner or thicker number,just make sure to get the correct real bullion coin measurement and add to the exact weight measure=real coin
crabtrap 9 months ago
i have to agree with you on the monarch bars they are beauties! i love the Medieval look to them the appearance of human craftsmanship has something machine precision milled products cant match. Where do you get them by the way from a local dealer or Monarch Metals directly?
WarrivarNeo 10 months ago
thanks china
ry4n0007 10 months ago
@SGTBull07 What about AOCS silver? Ignoring the MLM aspect, is the silver content legit?
deadrepublicantv 10 months ago
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Is this scale made in China ?
urkingod 10 months ago
Your real morgan dollar is .86 oz ? Don't you think its far from 1.0 oz ?
urkingod 10 months ago
@urkingod Boy are you a hick! A real Morgan has .7734 oz silver, at 90%. Divide .7734 by .9, and you get .86
Are you some kind of dumb ass, that does not know the content of REAL old silver coins?
indignant99 8 months ago
@indignant99 LOL ~!!!
urkingod 8 months ago
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jazyskowski 10 months ago
I bought a 20 ounce silver bar from ebay last summer, with paypal buyer protection, it was way under spot, stupid move... I got it, it weighed 20 ounces but its density was way off, it was too big for 20 ounces. I took it to an official jeweler to asses it officially and started a paypal claim when it was proved to be fake,,, phew, got all my money back except for shippwing fee back to the seller, I marked FAKE all over the bar with a perm marker heheh, basterd. +1 to paypal. ha.
TheTrueJBV3737 10 months ago
thank u vm
jcb570 10 months ago
I got a small digital scale for $11 from HarborFrait. So basicaly you need to have a scale with you in the field when buying silver!
zekehooper 10 months ago
I wonder if the supposed 1 Troy ounce silver rounds are meant to weigh 1 regular ounce. And that is why they weigh .80.
yuzurname 10 months ago
Silver also sings ! The ping test as he said. Tho yes, please have that scale! Good question tho.... would there be fake 1922 liberties or morgan coins ? Cause you can't dirty a new coin to make it look old.
Codenamelumiere 10 months ago
The ping test, a scale, and some acid should sort out nearly all of the fakes.
TheSelfGoverned 10 months ago
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myhueta 11 months ago
i don't think just by weighing them will tell u if they are silver EVCEN acid test will not tell u how much the silver content is for that reason i will not buy any more coins on theNet Ebay etc but there are Bullion dealers in the uk who only buy their coins from official mints on their side for the Britanians they spell it minted by the Royial Mint n that is the Best guarante on earth for me i asked how about the other coins Rply we only buy from official Mints n pre 47 Br. coins are also best
polygamous1 11 months ago
@polygamous1 Silver, for a given weight, takes up a given amount of space. If they use another metal, it will not take up the same amount of space and weigh the same. The fake pandas he's showing are the same size as normal pandas, but filled with some other metal, hence less weight. If they made the fake pandas to be the same weight, the coins would have to be bigger.
mikejadoti 9 months ago
Thank you for the valueble info,,please igg the ingrates who comment :)
zeno57 11 months ago
I can tell a silver coin by flipping it with my thumb into the air,,only silver makes a ring (like a bell) sound the way I do it :)
zeno57 11 months ago
Would'nt it be easy for fakers to make a fake that was the right weight ? It seems that spotting fakes needs to include more than weight. You can feel the weight difference without a scale if you are used to handling real coins - like you can feel a pre64 silver coin (dime /quarter) in handful of newer change-- just stands out by feel and sound.
ShoreScout 11 months ago
I disliked for camera work. Are you swiveling a chair?
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proudrebel69 11 months ago
Have any fake Silver American Eagles been found ?
LODGE4444 11 months ago
That was really good advice, thanks for that. Two questions re the fake stuff: 1. even though the silver is light, is it pure? and 2. is the fake morgan counterfeit, and does it have some numismatic value as such?
Barnekkid 11 months ago
@Barnekkid the coins are entirely fake (minus a very thin silver plate which is worthless) - in fact I'd bet the "Morgan" and the "silver round" were made out of nickel. they have no real silver content!
SGTbull07 11 months ago
good vid the prices of silver and gold have gone way up but to resell it you will find you will be paying fees and now the government says you must fill out form on gold for anything over I believe $650. The pawn shops and coin dealers and jewlery stores all will not give you the real value and buying stock is iffy as well, but silver is a good investment I have bought and sold coins for years!
karenl1234 11 months ago
If you're at a store or a show or something, even with a scale, how can you tell that they haven't just made the dimensions of the coin a bit bigger to cover for the loss in weight? I mean without a coin you know to be real, you probably couldn't tell by eye or hand.
fxtrader92 11 months ago
your watch is too big for your hand nerd
HomoTrucker 11 months ago
what is the fake stuff made of? like which metals?
NewYorkOlympians 11 months ago
Thank you.
marieatthelake 11 months ago
why swing about are you trying to hipnotise us or make us dizzy
BlackGoldEstates 11 months ago
@BlackGoldEstates Maybe he was taking camera lessons from the trendy 'drunken cameraman' clique.
A sound check would also be helpful. One of the fakes sounded funny.
ISamuelII 11 months ago
@ISamuelII i think did very good we are about fake coins not camera lessons .
TheDBcooper001 9 months ago
@TheDBcooper001 The 'drunk cameraman' technique makes me dizzy. Tripods are a good accessory.
So any ideas on verifying silver is silver by a sound check?
SlackerSlayer 9 months ago
I watched a video that said to buy dented/damaged silver. Do you think this is wise?
ctwatcher 11 months ago
titanium copper then gold plating would do the trick for gold
copper encasing lead silver plating for silver
dimension and weight the same
the fakers are even to cheap to that
get pre 1964 usa silver dimes and quarters coins, no worry to thin to copy with fakes
safffff 11 months ago
@9deciple gainesville yes... apmex no... check out national inflation assoc.
mrmoonshadow 11 months ago
Yea yea yea, the Chinese are selling fake silver but ask yourself this question, who started selling fake gold and silver to China and India first? If you said the jewish controlled american banking elites, you would be correct! Ding ding ding, what do we have for the winner Johnny?!?!?!?
lordhadeswelcomesyou 11 months ago 11
@lordhadeswelcomesyou guess who is planning to become the wrolds strongest economy and is behind the american economy collapse :D u know it !
nilliterto 9 months ago
FLIPPEN LOL @ KEISER COINS
Tomta20012 11 months ago
are the fake silver coins, totally fake???
yyuguy 11 months ago
Wow, so glad to be a new subscriber. Can't find SGTreport channel yet though.
ILiveInMyParadise 11 months ago
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You can purchase this scale at the link above. Its the exact same one as in this video. The amazon picture is innacurate. I bought this scale from amazon and its well worth the small amount of money. I hope this helps!
counterpoint85 11 months ago 6
@counterpoint85 Is this scale made in China ?
urkingod 10 months ago
@urkingod Yes, it is. =(
counterpoint85 10 months ago
@counterpoint85 yes but i sure silver metal making and scale is not from the same company.
davidlee110 10 months ago
Are the fake silver coins, totally fake (no silver or silver coated), or is it that they are 999 silver, but your getting ripped off on the weight?
chondram 11 months ago
These fakes are horrible because they don't even match the weight stated on the actual coins. Are these common amongst fakes? The easiest method of fooling someone is changing the dimensions of the coin because that isn't stated on the coin. How does one combat the better fakes?
siggyboss 11 months ago
sgt is there anyway we can talk privately? free silver for you.... lets talk
obummersux 11 months ago
I recently bought from a flea market a silver bar for $33.00,"The American Royal Mint" with a eagle on the front, Limited edition 1776 bicentential 1976.. I saw the .999 on it so assumed it was good. Once i got home I look at it and saw it said (Guaranteed 15 Grains .999 silver).Did I get ripped off or what?.
I was like that guy claimed it was a one ounce silver bar.
coolmage9 11 months ago
Amen brother, thank you
itsMyRC 11 months ago
great info ! many thanks
throwerofturds 11 months ago
As allways SGT very informative..
baza1701 11 months ago
Thanks SGT! Big help for everyone! I've been asked this so many times and my methods are too complicated. I'm buying a scale + nitric acid and test stone kit. Still costs under $30. Take care Gary
To everyone: has anyone seen any fake American silver eagles?
w0tm 11 months ago
THanks for the vid...for ALL your vids. I bought a scale and thankfully my little hoard is not just .999 Fine, it is also100% authentic. :)
hejira11 11 months ago
A quick way to tell if you have fake pandas is by checking to see if there is the character for currency next to the 10 denomination. Some fake pandas do not have the currency character to avoid getting in trouble for printing counterfeit money in China, since most of these counterfeiters are based in China. I spotted one of your pandas without the character, which automatically tells me its fake.
sfgiantsfan03 11 months ago
Calipers, scale and spec sheet is a must!
InspireImages 11 months ago
I've managed to acquire a couple of duds myself over the internet. They were both rounds and your vid uses rounds as an example. In your experience, is it safer to stick with bars? How 'bout Eagles, Philharmonics and Maple Leafs- seen any fakes there? Thanks for your work!
anna7031 11 months ago
@9deciple YES, just the words. Silver Keisers are .999 silver "rounds"... American silver eagles and canadian maples are silver "coins"... if you buy from the place you mentioned you'll do well if you by anything marked .999 or .9999 fne silver.
SGTbull07 11 months ago
great stuff, lets keep exposing these shenanigans
Postmodernews 11 months ago
SGT, informative vid and all that, but sadly there are a lot of fake coins now where the weight is spot on; some are tested on other vids here!
eventuallythetruth 11 months ago 3
@eventuallythetruth so true, these were very obvious fakes based on their weight alone.
SGTbull07 11 months ago
Great post. These fakes are getting more and more common. It should also be pointed out that there are not only a lot of underweight chinese silver rounds/bars out there but also many that contain NO SILVER WHATSOEVER. These may be lead or steel, etc, sometimes with a silver plate.
Only buy from sources you can 100% trust.
dowhatuwill 11 months ago
Maaaan, I bought some gold bars that look just like that!! Dam Flea Market!!
tlewisj78 11 months ago
Have you seen the NWO Silver coins that are going around, you can find them on ebay. Who would be the maker of these as they have some very serious writting and messages on them ???
jimmyajp 11 months ago
8.32 ounces of REAL SILVER, stackin' away as fast as possible!
justinehler 11 months ago
Wow, I never knew this was going on. After watching, I ordered a scale from Amazon for about $12. Thanks for spending the time to do this. I'm sure It's going to save some of us some hard earned money and some grief. Cheers, bud!
JohnnyStorm40 11 months ago
@JohnnyStorm40 truth JS.
SGTbull07 11 months ago
What do the keisers weigh? and as the price of silver soars, do you think the clever
counterfitters will find a way get the weight right?
cupofteas1 11 months ago
@cupofteas1 The keisers are real of course, and weigh one ounce!
SGTbull07 11 months ago
@SGTbull07 Another thing is that silver is diamagnetic. If you get a good magnet (not a refrigerator magnet) but a Samarium-Cobalt or Neodymium magnet, and hold the silver at an angle and allow the magnet to slide down the bar or round, it will kind of wiggle it's way down at a slightly slowed pace. If it slides-off really quickly, it's fake. There's prob. Youtube vids on this too.
HyperInflationNation 11 months ago
You could get this scale at "Harbor Freight Tools" for about $12.00
stanley1us 11 months ago
@eyewarnedyou FAKE. silver plated at best, but more likely nickel plate over copper or zinc. The weight being 35-40% light is the dead give away.
SGTbull07 11 months ago
I like the 3 chinese fucks who disliked the video.
AnonSoldier420 11 months ago
Good vid. But, what if the fakes are a full ounce, but diluted with shut metal like zinc? You need to measure density too.
javabarbarian 11 months ago
@SGTbull07 Please keep the camera still next video.
EquipaPatriot 11 months ago
@EquipaPatriot this video was going to be edited with close ups, etc - but I had major issues getting footage to render. I was lucky to get it posted at all. Sadly, it took 5 hours and multiple attempts to even get it our of Final Cut.
SGTbull07 11 months ago
i want 5 silver kaisers
rolficus 11 months ago
Great video man, thanks to you i started buying physical silver, i am new at this but learning a lot. i am in mexico and only buying libertad coins, really beautiful and heavy. keep up the good work.
artpena72 11 months ago
@artpena72 I love Libertads, among my favorite silver coins on the planet!
SGTbull07 11 months ago
Hey SGT, I trust that they still can't produce fakes that pass the 'ring test' yet?
people might not want to do that with their shiny new .999 fine rounds, but I prefer the older morgans and have no qualms dropping them on something solid to hear that beautiful ring.
freespace2dotcom 11 months ago
@freespace2dotcom I should have done the ring test on cam! Good suggestion. (But the weight alone says it all.)
SGTbull07 11 months ago
@SGTbull07 Keep up the good work SGT. We can't reach everyone...but what I learn on here, I try and spread it to my customers that come to my store. I may not be making videos, but I speak to many... and some are already stocking up on food. It's a start. I tell them to buy seeds where ever they can. ORGANIC is a must.
ajfelix67 11 months ago
Those "gold" bars sound almost plastic when you drop them. I got a Morgan awhile back on eBay that seemed to have some copper shining thru (I know there's 10% copper, but it looked weird). Threw it on the scale and checked it against 5 known good Morgans (2 I've had since childhood) and it weighed out right. As the Sarge said on Hill Street Blues "let's be careful out there!". Thanks SGT!
combatjm89 11 months ago
@sgtbull07 , hey , do you have an email address I can contact you on ? thanks .
Tommy
TheVelvetvoicecoach 11 months ago
@TheVelvetvoicecoach sure bud, you can PM and I will see it for sure, I read and answere every single PM - or you can e-mail me at sgtreport@gmail.com
SGTbull07 11 months ago
How do you clean Silver? Mine is getting kinda gruddy.
TransformedMan 11 months ago
Any suggestions on legitmate sellers of real gold and silver?
CBBMachineGun1988 11 months ago
@CBBMachineGun1988 yes, my favorite four are: gainsvillecoins, miles franklin, monarch precious metals, apmex.
SGTbull07 11 months ago
@SGTbull07 Gotta be apmex for me check out the affiliate program i made £70 ($112 approx) in my first 2 weeks not bad considering it was on the side I turn the money into silver bullion. Great vid thanks alot!
GoldenWinning 11 months ago
@SGTbull07 Here in Canda, silvergoldbull is a great source. Great service too.
ajfelix67 11 months ago
What about the gold?
asubliminalmessanger 11 months ago
I would have liked Stacey's face on that coin better!
gerloczyek 11 months ago
i want that little thing
AlexxSR 11 months ago
Continuing my prior post, pewter is an alloy of ~~80%-95% tin (specific gravity 7.280) and lead (specific gravity 11.35) and various other metals, copper & antimony. It is *not* a precisely defined mixture. If you think about it, it would be possible to make a "custom" lead-tin or lead-tin-copper alloy that would have almost EXACTLY the specific gravity of silver (10.5) and silver plate it. It would not be much like "traditional" pewter, but the alert I'm sending is valid anyway.
pneumatic00 11 months ago
Thank you for this great video. I didn't realize there was fake silver. I am glad I bought my scale when I first started buying silver.
And that is awesome! Max Keiser rounds! I know what I am buying with my next check...especially since silver is on sale.
Metallicafan6611 11 months ago
Nice video, well done.
I'll point out one other thing: the fakes you showed were "way" off. Wt is clearly the easiest way to make a real / fake determination. I have also seen Chinese silver = Ag plated pewter or Ag plated lead. If you come across that type of fake and weigh it, you'll be shocked at how close Ag-plated pewter can be to real Ag. So...if you're going to bring a scale, bring a known weight to see if your little scale is off.
Specific gravity silver: 10.50 Lead: 11.35. >Heavier<
pneumatic00 11 months ago
Selfish fuckers just trying to get rich
How did we get in this mess in the first place you fucking American capitalist dogs
69salford69 11 months ago
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de225221 11 months ago 11
@de225221 "We got into this mess because of Zionist Jews."
= That doesn't change what I said. We got into this mess because selfish motherfuckers were trying to get rich. Zionist or otherwise.
You selfish bastards buying up gold and silver are absolutely no better than Jewish family bankers who started out exactly how this capitalist pig started out.
Fuck all you selfish bastard Rothschild wannabes
69salford69 11 months ago
@69salford69 Somehow, I see you with a swastika tattooed on your forehead. I sir, am buying silver to hedge against inflation...nothing more. And no, am not a Jew. Only a well informed individual that don't want to see my wife and son starve to death when hard times come knocking at our door. Yes, some will try and capitalize, but I don't blame them. Time to reclaim some wealth from greedy banks that raped their own people. And if you a re sore because you can't afford silver? Buy copper.
ajfelix67 11 months ago
@ajfelix67 "don't want to see my wife and son starve to death when hard times come knocking at our door"
= Exactly! Selfish as fuck. Just think about YOUR family, because YOUR children can't starve to death but 10 million little brown children in a 3rd World country can die everyday. As long as its not YOUR children or YOUR family who's suffering.
Fuck YOU I don't want your gold or silver!!!! No better than Zionists!!! you fucking selfish capitalist bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
69salford69 11 months ago
@69salford69 "10 million little brown children in a 3rd World country can die everyday"
Why don't you research a bit. People starve around to world because of corrupt regimes and governments. THEY TAKE from the poor...and leave them to the wolves. They try and grow food, and they are plundered. Don't be angry at the whole world because of crooked bastards that steal, and kill to keep power.
I don't want power.... I just want to be able to get by. So... FUCK YOU TOO.
ajfelix67 11 months ago
@ajfelix67 why don't you just carry on living your own selfish life, not worrying about anyone who isn't related to you.
selfish fuck.
69salford69 11 months ago
@69salford69 Am by far not selfish. I am gathering seed to help my whole community need we have to plant in the future. Am stocking plenty of dried beans and peas as well... as many around here are blind to what is happening. Am trying to get others to listen and prepare as well. You don't know me...you don't even know where I live. I live on an Island that has has seen it's fair share of poverty and corruption. Be mad at the world all you want. I will help my family and community best I can.
ajfelix67 11 months ago
@ajfelix67 your whole community doesn't include me? thanks very much.
You can't eat silver or gold so you buy things with it. How is it any different from having paper money if you've got coinage money??
I don't mean to judge or offend you but I would give you my carrots or marijuana and you can give me your dried beans and peas and there's no need for silver.
If I wanted a big basket full of food I could work a few hours on your island community...selfish gathering of silver is bad
69salford69 11 months ago
@69salford69 "your whole community doesn't include me? thanks very much."
And you call me selfish? I don't have a crystal ball, so am stocking up in what ever I can currently afford. You make it sound like I have millions invested in silver...when in fact.. is minuscule. I do agree with you on beans and peas to trade...yes....am stocking up on that. Barter is what I will be focusing on. Growing my own vegetables as well. I have enough land that neighbors can plant as well....if they want too.
ajfelix67 11 months ago
@ajfelix67 OK it seems I've let my emotions and my prejudice get the better of me. I suppose your silver is your insurance policy. You're not being selfish, just careful....
Maybe I'm wrong about people buying it up but if we had a barter system you wouldn't need the silver....so I can't help but see the collection of silver as a selfish act. You should be putting your effort into bringing down the fascist Government instead of just protecting your immediate relatives / neighbours
69salford69 11 months ago
@69salford69 Barter systems are great. As for fascist governments? Ya, I have to agree with you. Over regulation is killing us. Remember, all this horded gold and silver by individuals like us, can one day "fund" revolutions. Can't fight with carrots and potatoes, but gold and silver can help gather what is needed to fight one day. Besides, would you rather see corrupt governments with all the silver and gold? Better in the pockets of peasants I think. Hide it, and use it one day to fight.
ajfelix67 11 months ago
@ajfelix67 Great way to put your argument accross, man....I feel I've been pretty ignorant on here..
Gold and silver in the hands of the peasents really can't be a bad thing compared to the Governments having it, you're right....I suppose your attitude towards gold or silver is just good sense. You're right you can't fight war with carrots and stuff. I'm sorry for calling you a selfish capitalist you're obviously not
69salford69 11 months ago
@69salford69 Apology accepted. You have a right to be angry...so does every other person on this Earth. Western society is very young as compared to the old world. And will take something of great magnitude to wake up the sheeple. Maybe it's time that they hit rock bottom and start fresh...and hopefully with better understanding of living beyond one's needs. And hopefully, with newly elected Governments not handpicked by design. Cheer for the peasants with silver... it will rebuild our world.
ajfelix67 11 months ago
@ajfelix67 I won't hold my breath for any Governments turning things around, but I'm glad we could have a discussion in the end.
When you say I can't be angry at the whole World because of a minority of crooked officials, part of me agrees with you, but part of me thinks these crooked officials represent ME and are answerable to ME. I am not doing enough to stop them which diminishes my innocence. I am guilty of paying into the system that kills and destroys. I am guilty of these crimes now.
69salford69 11 months ago
@69salford69 Uprising takes forever, but it does happen when people can take no more. Thank goodness for the internet, for we can finally get the message out there...and people are starting to catch on. The Elitist days off tyranny and Government manipulation are getting fewer each passing day. As more and more videos are posted and people waking up to the truth. One can't change the world... but one can spread the word to MILLIONS. Keep expressing yourself...be heard. A long road ahead of us.
ajfelix67 11 months ago
@69salford69 Further more. The little silver I have may come in handy. Am not sure how... but as i said, am stocking up in what ever I can. Even fishing supplies and gardening equipment. That silver could "maybe" buy me a tiller for my garden...who knows? And...if you want to move out here in the middle of the North Atlantic.... sure... look me up. I'd be more then happy to work along side you.
ajfelix67 11 months ago
@de225221
go back to stormfront you racist f@ckers
salmon19 11 months ago
NO SPAM, just info:
I got mine from dealextreme. Google for it (cant post link). Seach on site for "scale"
I took 2 weeks to arrive at my place (Belgium)
I hope this helps some of you out.
whackpak 11 months ago
5*****
Glad you did that video.... I was wondering about the fakes...
MsMilkytheclown 11 months ago
Great video !
Uwiluz60 11 months ago
Important topic, shortly to be a growing concern no doubt- out of curiosity what were the fake silver pieces made out of?
I had seen that tungsten was often used for fake silver bars. One test I saw for fake Morgans used a magnet. Reportedly the Morgans coming out of China are often steel.
acuriousbeast 11 months ago
thanks again brother.
50317mike 11 months ago
For those of you don't have a scale handy,the quickest way to tell a real panda from the fake is to check the reeding on the edge of the coin,on the real coin the reeding is on a slight angle all the way around the coin & as for the fake the reeding on the edge is straight all the way around the coin !! also check quality of the date under the steps on reverse & the distance from the stairs ,i hope this helped !!
As for the morgan dollars always use the cart-wheel effect !!
raymintboy 11 months ago
I love your channel,keep up the good work,i got my scale !!
raymintboy 11 months ago
Awesome video!!!... as usual, but this is SO important to know... very instructional! Thanks so much for this SG!
AgStrat 11 months ago
@SGTBull07 I kinda wonder why, if they go to the effort of making such beautiful fakes, they don't use an 80/20 lead/tin alloy, and make the exact same thing with the proper weight... Seems it would be almost as easy as making fakes that don't weigh the right amount.
stefanb1977 11 months ago
Bought a scale today from radio shack for $20. Thank you!!!
survival42 11 months ago
Where about would one go to purchase some of the Silver Keisers?
Nolen87 11 months ago
Good stuff as always. We have to be vigilant as the price moves higher. This could also be a problem if we were to use gold and silver as a medium of exchange. Everyone would need to buy one of them scales.
Also Gibbo, this is more than an ego trip. We can use these coins as a "propaganda tool" to spread the message. I always walk around with an ounce of silver to show people around. It makes monetary theory a bit less of a dry subject.
BlunderCity 11 months ago
Thank for sharing
Alexiscom1 11 months ago
Any one have what true weights on junk silver quarters and dimes?
maltman4101 11 months ago
Max Keiser's mug on a coin, that really is some ego trip.
When are they doing a Stacy Herbert coin she's easier on the eye!
gibbo675 11 months ago
You could buy fake silver alibaba.com few months ago. it was priced way under spot. They were chinese pandas.
arcanekrusader 11 months ago
There are phony and frauds on ever turn!
neanam 11 months ago
Great video SGT! Thanks!
bigdad06 11 months ago
Just in Case. 1 Troy ounce is 31.15 grams. Thats standard, the place your buying from should have a Scale, and I usually ask, and judge the guy hard if he doesnt. I would never buy a coin in a case like that, gotta take it out and weigh it.
lol Iono if anyone dare sell silver on the street
ekingh22 11 months ago
i just checked mine and they are all fake
MasqueradeOfTruth 11 months ago
China makes fake rice made with plastic bags, so you can expect fake silver.
Silver Kaisers!!!! <---- I'm blown away.
Iseeyoursoul 11 months ago