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  • yeah fuck the camaro bitch!!!

  • Supra = tons of mods and made of plastic and barely beat muscle in yeasr to come imports are going to be worth nothing and muscle will still be there

  • SUPRA BITCH!

  • That was better than a wet dream!

  • the supra wins men. that is di shit

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  • gave it a ride for it's money

  • yeah your done all right . AND I AM NOT BUTT HURT. F YOU AND YOUR SICK JOKE"s. your just like all the other HATER"s talking that SH  IT . GONNA GET F UP IF YOU DON"T WATCH YOUR F ING MOUTH.

  • To all the fucking idiots on here going on about how the "supra would lose without the turbo" you do know that is the Vortech "Supercharged" Camaro. Did you really think it was an N/A or is this a retard convention?? Superchargers have nearly 0 lag which is why he got off the line so fast but the second the Supe spooled he had 2 hopes

  • i wanna see an sti go against a camaro haha

  • Best race on Youtube!

  • Pushrod Hick-Mobile got terminated!

  • American cars are badass, there also loud n noise they have a sexy look n a manly look too. Turbo or no turbo supras are still king of the highways, And are hard to beat any car can be a beast of you invest money in them.BUT supras can became king of the beast.**Fuck FORD **

  • @TNT310supralover you are stupid first you say America cars are bad azzzz. then you say f ford. you are ricer that wishes you could own a FORD. YOU SUCK.

  • @SVTMODDED look doggy this its facebook where u just write who ever you want i dnt know you, n yes fuck ford dnt worried what i said its just trash talk nothing more or less. whatever just STOP BEING BUTT HURT CUZ SUPRAS BEING BEATIN MUSCLE CARS FOR I DNT KNOW A GOOD WHILE N NO I DNT WISH FOR A AMERICAN CAR NOO JUST JAPANSE BUILT BETTER CARS. JUST LET GO DOGGY YOU I AINTT GOT NOTHING AGAINST YOU.YOU STAR TALKING SHIT TO ME, NOW I WISH FOR SOMEDAY TO GET MY HANDS ON A SUPRA YES DA I WISH...

  • @TNT310supralover yeah f ing RIGHT. you the one that got to make the sick sexually JOKE's to try to make your point. FORD DOES NOT SUCK. and IMPORTs do not suck. YOU SUCK. there is always some one with a fastest car. that will shut up people like you. and yes i know supra's beat muscle car's but you can't tell me there is know muscle car's that will not beat supra's it all depends on who builds it and who drive it. no matter what make or model. YOUR WRONG.

  • @SVTMODDED well ok i suck just stop being butt hurt im done... you know what to do if you think of making this a big deal.. whatever im out reply watever you want im just done with this doggy..ima ignore everything from you now.......... peace out

  • @TNT310supralover My god you're a idiot on every video I see.

  • @SVTMODDED YOU DNT KNOW ME I DNT KNOW YOU, BUT YOU SHOULD'T STAR SAIND IM STUPIC AND THAT I SUCK DOGGY.. WELL DOGGY I DNT LIKE THE WAY YOU JUST DISRESPECT ME, I I DNT THINK I HAVE TO YOU RIGTH.. WELL WASS UPP THEN CPTxX13ELOCK .. YOU KEEP FUCKING WITH ME WILL SEE.

  • 22 people are tired of their camaro's getting beat by supra's

  • goddamn that was fuckin good

  • Who cares who won? They're both fast as fuckin' Hell but the Camaro is WAAAAY sexier and sounds sooo much better.

  • The supra ain't shit without a turbo, end of story. If it weren't for that there would be no interstate in them. Two extra cylinders don't mean shit, my uncle has an inline six Ford stroked out that bust the best Chevy's.

  • @steeworker98 Damn man,why you gotta be a bad look for domestic guys? The supra was built to be a turbo motor, Show some respect to the car instead of being all butt hurt about it. The inline 6 Platform turbo is amazing,look at what the GTR is doing. V8's are awesome,and the roots of serious drag racing,but no platform is essentially better then the other,they all have their purpose,fans,and place in the sport,show some respect man,

  • That camaro's got something crazy under it's hood to allow it to go 8's... Turbo charged or not,

  • that camaro is probably all natural with no super or turbo chargers, lets see a supra go that fast on motor

  • ugh!!! thankyou camera man for showing the times so CLEARLY...

  • the chevy lets off at the end.. how else can you explain the 20mph trap speed difference.

    this uploader is as retarded as the supra dick riders. morons.

  • @FnkDctr it could be the gear ratios or the supras twin turbos

  • @xyzdorky66 turbos work at rpm, not speed. you dont let that much lower of a trap speed with that time.. he let off the gas. hit the track some time or read about cars.

  • 2 lovely cars. 

    man the crowd seems hostile

  • the i jizzed my pants comments are getting old..

  • well NONEMC imports are great cars, i dnt care what u think NONEMC .. well v8's are just louds thats all.

  • what this nonemc kid doesnt know is, there are imports stock vs stock, faster than domestics. a TT supra is a 13.1-13.2 sec car. the 99 skyline is about a high 12's car. the new GTR is an 11.5....and many more imports running faster times than "some" domestics. keyword there for you kids. "some" not all. nondick is talking like we have to build them to make them keep up. hell, theres even stock civics i can name that can beat V8's of the same year.

  • Who took round one?

  • Know these is a BAD ASS RACE, i hope all the ricers out their learn from these video, why cant ricers give us more of these close neck and neck races?

  • i knew the supra will win fagget ass tommy92L. keep hating n stop writing to me u fuck fag, what are you 19 yeah you must be fucking punk..

  • Both Nice Cars, and I'd take either lol. Always been partial to camaro's though.

  • FUCK V8 THERE GOOD N FAST BUT DA GOES THERE TO SHOW YOU ''DONT FUCK WITH JAPANESE CARS''..

  • @TNT310supralover Shut the fuck. we came here to watch the video of the race not bitch about import Vs. Muscle.

  • @TNT310supralover No, it shows that Asian cars can be fast if you build them right, not riceing them up, i wish ricers would build more cars like that Supra and give us better races, but video very bad ass, close ass race. 8)

  • i knew the supra would win.

  • i already knew the supra would win.

    turbos kick arse :P

  • SUPRASONIC!

    

  • v what? did u say 8?pos....

  • Whoa, Is it just me or did the maro give the supra a car length head start 0_0

  • @PRPWR

    No, Camaro generally has so much torque that they get a head start, but when the Supra's turbo spools, it's game over lol.

  • @CyberGTX09 lol no I was saying the Supra had the head start not the maro. Maybe its just the camera angle

  • that was the best drag race ever daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn

  • LOL @ WARZDUNE!!! OK MATE JUST SEARCH FOR MR MAD TORANA IM FRM AUSTRALIA AND WE RUN V8 TURBO SETUPS DAY IN DAY MATE SMASHNG ON ALL THESE IMPORTS ALLDAY EVERYDAY...TAKE UR TURBOS OFF THE 2JZ , RB26 ETC AND IMPORTS AINT SHIT MATE V8S 4 LIFE...

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  • @TheRheinheart along side that,we should as car enthusiasts respect all cars,builds,and engines,v8,imports ,etc all have their purpose. if you hate or disrespect anything other then what you own you are being a bitch. Doesnt matter what you drive,slow or fast,import or domestic,if you put in time and enjoy it its all tha matters! show love not hate man! why be ignorant to other cars? that Camaro is sweet and turbo V8's are amazing! but people like you are a disgrace to the car community.

  • @fresh81steez LMAO SLOW DWN BUD..I LUV IMPORTS AND V8S JUS WNTED TO STIR THE POT AND C WAT COMMENTS ID GET.....JDM ALLLDAY...V8S ALL DAYYY....

  • @TheRheinheart I'm from Elizabeth, the most ferral place in Australia and Imports beat V8s EVERYDAY. This meathead is on weed.

  • @theredrooter Elizabeth is not feral .lol

  • LOL @ WAZDUNE!!! OK MATE JUST SEARCH FOR MR MAD TORANA IM FRM AUSTRALIA AND WE RUN V8 TURBO SETUPS DAY IN DAY MATE SMASHNG ON ALL THESE IMPORTS ALLDAY EVERYDAY...TAKE UR TURBOS OFF THE 2JZ , RB26 ETC AND IMPORTS AINT SHIT MATE V8S 4 LIFE...

  • Where is the video of the Camaro taking the first race? Yeah thats what the announcer was saying before you cut that part out...another domestic hater

  • LETS ADD A MONSTER TURBO TO THE SIDE OF THAT 8 AND SEE WAT HAPPENS BOYZ!!!!! OFF THE MARK 8 RIPPED IT LONG RUN SNAIL KICKED IN APPLY SAME PRINCIPLE TO THE 8 AND SUPRA B LOOKING AT THAT CAMAROS BREAKLIGHTS!!!!

  • @TheRheinheart Add a turbo to that v8 and all you have is a piece of junk after about 2 runs. Sorry but all that displacement doesn't make for a faster car.

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  • god damn the shot off like a fucking rocket car

  • DUDE Those are mean supercharged cars, i dont what they have installed, but they took off too fast

  • Haha GOTA love the turbo lol another domestic demolished by import hahaha

  • @GEOVANNIMR2BOI lets turbo that V8 and well see whos laughing now, dumbass.

  • @nickrod666 hahaha go ahead will still be laughing with that domestic shit in the bckground

  • @nickrod666 hahaha go ahead will still be laughing with that domestic shit in the bckground

  • @nickrod666 lol you sound like a Honda guy crying about his civic being beat by a larger displacement engine.

  • @nickrod666

    You said it yourself dumb fuck, it's a V8. So apart from having 2 extra cylinders, you are whining that it needs a turbo now too. Get the fuck out of here, seriously. I like both of these vehicles in their respective rights and commend the work put into them. Stop sounding like a whiny faggot looking for excuses.

  • @nickrod666 Does anyone know what was under the maro's hood... besides that it was a v8...???

  • @nickrod666 That camaro's got something crazy under it's hood to allow it to go 8's... Turbo charged or not, this car was built for the drag strip. If it was turbo, it probably would've achieved the same time, if not worse.

  • take off forced induction and lets see who wins.

  • finally no riced out car :D

  • God people are dumb...

  • FInally! A video with no civics

  • Damn they looked like they were about to lift off from the track like jets.

  • 20 Camaro drivers got smoked by a Supra.

  • also nissan skyline, that shit is raw

  • thats a good race right there. i dont care for imports, but when its a toyota supra or Acura NSX ill show some respect. hondas....fuuuuck no

  • @punnkypo with all due respect the nsx is a Honda ;)

  • @fresh81steez yeah i didnt make my self clear on that haha fuuuck, i mean thats the only honda i like, the OTHERS no

  • @punnkypo Acura is still by honda smart one........

  • @Zeek1227 you wish nigga hahaha

  • Muscle still beats import every time

  • @zeek1227 LOL. You know nothing.

  • @zeek1227 You're an imbecile, maybe in a straight line in most circumstances, but thats it, that Shitaro American Muscle deathtrap would've been smoked even harder on a track.

  • @zeek1227 yes it does for the most part.,

  • No, it's a strong motor. If I ever plan on going over 1,000whp then of course I will change out internals. There is a supra guy in town "doing it wrong" on purpose. He plans to go all out on his next build so he is purposely abusing it. He threw a big-ass turbo on it and runs it on 2.5-3bar+ making 1,100whp with no mods to his motor or 6spd transmission. Surprising to all of us, it's still going strong a year and a half later! Talk about overbuilding a motor from the factory. :)

  • I don't give a flying shit about what they have inside those hoods, Camaro has, big ass blower and probably nitrous, Supra Probably single turbo+NOS. If it goes fast it goes fast, WTF is the problem with that.? Just enjoy the f♣king drag race. I love both cars, but for f♣ck sakes why are some people here in YT so narrow minded.? This Camaro here back in the day even with a 425 cid would run just over 13 seconds, so this one here is blown, just like the Supra is, WTF is the problem with that.?

  • @rayochapin EXACTLY AND THANK YOU!

  • @SupraDaveY2K No, thank you. I am a big Toyota fan ( Celica Supra, Corolla GTS) but I enjoy cars in general, the older Camaro being one of my favorites as far as domestic goes. Have a nice weekend Dave.

  • Fucking naws pussy!

  • 0:37 he ran out of nitrous lol

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  • im a supra lover but i do respect muscle, but just dont hate, its an I6 turbo beating a v8

  • Great race.

  • There is a limit on how much you can modify a car, I say the limit on how much you can modify an american muscle car is higher then the limit on an import, so it's not that any car can beat any car. It's any modified car can beat most stock cars.

  • announcer reminds me of need for speed prostreet so much

  • I love supra

  • @JuniorGG3000 Me too!

  • I love both cars! Great race.

  • yeah that supra needs a launch control and for those who don't know what i mean by that it stops your revs at whatever you set it say 4000 rpms then hold the gas to the floor and gas goes through the exhaust and detonates in the turbo and spools it faster. and yes it's hard on the turbo but if you can afford to race every weekend then you can afford maintenence.

  • @eXp0N3nT1aL actually its called a 2 step not launch control, BMW's have launch control. And a 2 step is AWFUL on a car overall, it ruins so much shit its not even worth it. And that still doesn't help spool the turbo as much as is needed. Most professional Supra drag drivers use a 125-150 shot of NOS right off the line to spool the turbo (along with a 2 step). It takes a lot for a little 3.4L I6 to spool a 88mm single turbo :)

  • I swear to god that is the best match up ever. LOUD v8 block and the screamin straight 6 of a 2jz running 8sec each. FFS I jizzed my pants..

  • would you ,like some real motor with your turbo Mr.Supra?lolz

  • i still want the camaro lol!!!

  • wow, that was a PERFECT match up.

  • Supra 8.28 Camaro 8.57

    You're welcome for reading the times for you people.

  • i dont get why people bother arguing cars on youtube. it's stupid. and it always leads to name calling lol. in this case the supra beat the camaro. it's a race and that means one winner and one loser. but if you cant respect a fast car, whether it be foreign or domestic, or 4/6/8 cylinders then i feel sorry for you for being closed minded

  • it takes money to go fast, more money faster you go period.

  • @ericdeg27 wrong, is the setting you put on it.

  • damn it both cars hell fast

  • That Camo got a good start but still not enough to take down the Supra.

  • toretto vs o'connor :)

  • supra all day any day. dream car right there.

  • Camaro tree'd the supra, but supra caught up and over took it. It doesn't matter if u win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning.

  • @Wickit96 TORETTO SPIRIT...LOL

  • "top end"

    I love retards who make excuses for not building a good all around vehicle

  • @Model192 Good all around vehicle? This is DRAG RACING... Their made to go fast, in a short amount of time, in a straight line..

  • @MegaHolymoly What's your point? I'm talking about the retard who calls "top end" when the supra is using a 2-stage boost controller for drag racing. It's already spooling for torque off the line. HURRR DURRR.

    Let's supercharge the camaro for drag racing?

    Yeah.

  • @Model192 Supercharge it? Go ahead, then we would just add bigger turbos or up the boost.

  • @MegaHolymoly The only video you have on your youtube is of World of Warcraft. Dollar for dollar GM will destroy whatever. You can up the boost all you want, if you knew anything about anything you would know there comes a time in which your charge is no longer useful because you are pressurizing it and it becomes extremely hot. And what does fuel mix well with? COOL AIR.

  • @Model192

    GM will destroy whatever? You sure about that man? Looks to me like Nissan alone can take on GM, but Toyota is too cool for GM LOL!

  • @Model192 LMAO!! Typical fanboy response. "There's no replacement for displacement. Durrrr...." ANY time more air & fuel are being put into a motor, the more it heat creates. Regardless of how it's done. More fuel + more air = more heat. Whether it be F/I, or N/A. If you knew anything about anything who knew something about somebody's neighbor, you would know that.

  • @jeremy3010 Sadly, you are wrong. If you weren't such a blatant ricer retard with NO videos of any cars uploaded on his youtube you'd know that by the same right you're arguing you can stuff MORE AIR and MORE FUEL inside a LARGER CYLINDER. Real life retard. As far as header temps go you really don't deviate very far in any engine unless you are detonating. But you know, that's why a single cylinder engine exhaust can't melt your skin just like a V8. OH WAIT.

  • @MegaHolymoly huh? so you are saying N/A vs turbocharged is fair, and that if i want to make my car supercharged, its only fair if you up your boost or add a bigger turbo? hmm, okay. sounds fair.

  • @revenge2269 6 cylinder vs 8 cylinder? You already have an advantage there.

  • @MegaHolymoly It's not about how many cylinders, its about numbers from a stock engine. The stock engine in the supra is by far more sport oriented than that of the camaro, especially the twin turbo version. If you saw a N/A supra vs a N/A camaro, you might be surprised. If you saw a supercharged camaro vs a turbo charged (not twin turbo) supra, you might see an even race. If you saw one or the other with a fuel injected mod and not the other, it should seem obvious who would come out first.

  • the supra won

  • By an inch or a mile, a win is a win. The camaro won!

  • Damn it, what was the time?!

  • Supras are the shit!!!!!!!!!

  • WTF!

  • amazing race...fukn super won though.

  • it looked like the camaro won?

    

  • I like how most drag races are set up. like everybody is family. with street races and stuff you got fights and people yelling fuck you asshole! and crap. (in my area atleast) but when I go to a drag strip, everybody understands that I don't have enough money for all these high end parts and I run what I brought. I love drag strips :D fuck street racing.

  • look at the difference among the burnouts lmao!

  • Good race.

    

  • damn! what a race! toyota rulez!

  • @454blockveteran True... but, what if the guy doesn't know how to drive it? it's about the driver, and the money. (:

  • 6 always in front of them

  • Awesome race!

    I would shit my pants if I was riding in either car...

  • Both are good drivers, both are nice cars.  Nice vid!

  • damn those cars are awesome..i dont know why there's arguments but shit just watch at them nice cars go!!!

  • yeah the biggest wallet wins but the guy with the supra needs considerably less money ;)

  • @noobasdfjkl i disagree

  • @X0ltare as is your right to do so

  • Yup! biggest wallets win thats a true fact for some dumbasses who doesn't know.

  • Hahaha wtf NOS? Really not even don't get pissed because a camaro got beat by the underdog besides this isn't even fast I've seen supra's hit 7's all day just like those two up top said it's all about who put's in more money but trust me no NOS was involved during the race. A stock camaro vs a stock supra on a drag of course camaro is going to win but neither are better cars, just personal preference really they all have their ups and downs.

  • you didn't video da Score at the vilboard.... now i dont know whos win -.-

  • ok, now take off the turbo and nos this time...

  • fucking supra used nos at the end lil cheat

  • @letshavelunch77 Hey tool, it's called top end. His T88 Turbo takes time to reach full boost. Muscle car has the displacement and power off the line... however, when the turbo is fully on line, this is what USUALLY happens. I say usually as any car can beat any car, but Supras GENERALLY run very top heavy as most people go with large turbos. I have mine set up for track and quick spooling... that Camaro would rock me in a drag... different around a course though.

  • @SupraDaveY2K i have an audi s4 tuned for track ,, lets do it

  • @SupraDaveY2K

    staged up he should all ready be in boost leaving the line and t88 are not the biggest turbo out there man most likely a gt40 or gt42R and the supra has a way longer gears due to the high revs the 2JZ can reach and the power curves are way way different from a v8 to a turbo straight 6 or even a inline 4 but back to the boost off the line look up 2 step or anti lag but this was an auto car so you might want to look up how a diesel truck stalls up on the converter building up boost

  • @SupraDaveY2K not called top end it's called Forced induction. Top end would prefer to the working RPM range where your motor itself makes power. Waiting for a Turbo to spool up is complete different category you F"n ricer. If I waited till half way down the track to hit my nitrous and win a race does that mean I have fkn top end? NO! it means I have fkn nitrous. Just like this car has a fkin turbo. You dipsh*t ricer.

  • @ladygodia LOLOLOL. First, learn to type with proper grammar so people can understand you. Second, No, you're incorrect when comparing Nitrous to Turbos. There's a smaaaaaaall problem in that comparison... Nitrous runs out.... Turbos continue to run as long as the motor runs... therefore, turbos ARE part of the motor and my comment about Top End is true. Yes, Supras would be dirt slow without turbos as they are DESIGNED with forced induction in mind.... bulletproof motor and low compression.

  • @SupraDaveY2K Finally, I love how I seem to have thumbs up from those who actually understand the world... unlike yourself. Call me names all you want (I own a Supra so I'm a "ricer?")... all it does is show your true intelligence and stature... good day.

  • @SupraDaveY2K Turbo's ARE NOT PART OF A MOTOR! They are an additional component. It's why they are called a power adder you ricer. Don't be upset because without them your Supra wouldn't mean sh*t. Tell me what's the fastest times an all motor Supra runs? Tell me the fastest Non Turbo Supra? Of course you think they're part of the motor because your Supra wouldn't mean sh*t without it. Unless you're running a whipple styled Supercharger it's not a part of your f'n motor you f'n ricer.

  • @ladygodia take 3 liters off of that camaro and see how it runs...

  • @kkage2 It will run like it wasn't meant to be powerful. You know kind of like an import motor but then you could spend 40 Grand to make it fast (if it doesn't blow up in the process) and then use the fact that it's a small engine as an excuse when you loose or your turbo breaks and can't spool up your little import motor anymore. You can say hey "your car has 2 cylinders more than mine" and then someone would just tell you to f*ck off and leave racing to real cars.

  • @ladygodia @ a different post... I am confused at why people say it takes $40-$50 grand to make import cars fast... case in point... it cost me $1,500 for a 67mm turbo kit UPGRADE (car CAME with turbos as earlier discussed), $800 for an ECU on sale, and a couple hundred for a tune. What did this do for me? Took my stock bolt-on 464whp Supra to a track course crushing setup with 783whp. Maybe my math is wrong, but that doesn't seem to add up to $40 grand as you state.

  • @SupraDaveY2K then you did it wrong.

  • You Muscle car fags try to make up for a little penis with a big motor..

  • @kkage2 No more like your Japanese cars try to compensate for what their tiny little engines lack by adding all those little gadgets like turbo's and nitrous and AWD and carbon fiber and wings, and flux capacitors. Kind of like how they need to use vibrators and dildo's and all that crap to please their women because of their too small to please their women due to having teeny tiny little...

  • @ladygodia Seriously, what is wrong at home?... So angry. While the power adder comment is kinda true, what about when you go onto a lot and purchase a ZR1 Vette, CTS V, Mustang Cobra, Buick Grand National, Ford Mustand SVO (4cyl BTW), Audi A4, SUPRA TURBO, 1993+ RX7, Evo 123456789 10, WRX, Nissan GTR, Cobalt SS, etc etc etc the list gets so big. SUVs are included as well. Go in to any dealership and ask for any of these cars, "I would like to see a Audi A4, a Mustang Cobra, a ZR1...

  • @SupraDaveY2K Aside from the buick GN which is a specialty car none of those other vehicles need a FI. To be fast, they are fast cars without it. However for vehicle safety codes and regulations it's easier for a manufacturer to add on a S/C to make a fast car fast than it is to pump out those ponies with the motor alone. If they built a car like the ZR1 all motor you would never make it through emissions.

  • Respond to this video... ... a SUPRA TURBO." Then ask if I can have one of them without a "power adder." You will be laughed at.... as, THEY DO NOT COME WITH THEM. You can justify yourself by saying "yeah they can give me a Supra without a turbo, its a non-turbo supra..." You originally asked for a "SUPRA TURBO"... Supra Turbos do not come labeled as a Supra turbo with no turbo, a ZL1 ALWAYS will have a supercharger, you cannot get a ZL1 without a SC, sure you could get Z06, but

  • Respond to this video...  that's not the ZL1 now is it. Hell, I heard that BMWs are going the route of not making large motors anymore because of their INefficiency. The Big body 7-series will soon run on a 6cyl twin turbo... no joke. THE POINT is, when a car comes with a turbo or supercharger, it is NOT a power adder, it is how the car was designed to run... with efficiency. Sure you could take a Toyota Tacoma, Tundra, or non-turbo Supra and go to TRD and ask for add-ons in which

  • Respond to this video... they will surely ADD a sc or turbo to the said vehicle which was never designed for said add-on. THOSE would be power adders. If you bought your new Audi A4 or Jetta and thought "these cars are garbage with their power adders" you'd look like a fool. You could not get them any other way and besides they are not really designed for power as much as an efficient get around town on good gas mileage. Grow up. Seriously, go to a park and kick some children or

  • Respond to this video... something to make yourself feel like a big person. WAAAAAY back to my very first post you started running your mouth to you'd see I said "any car can beat any car." SHOWING that I am NOT an ignorant biased tool like you have shown yourself to be. I like both cars and was simply explaining what happened and how they worked, the end. GROW UP and SHUT UP.