@BronzeBullBalls As a classic psychopath (harmless) personality myself, I agree with your definitions of these terms. Just because a person is violent and selfish doesn't necessarily make someone incapable of emotionally bonding with others. I never saw this show but I did see Deadwood and I'd say the Swearengin character is your classic violent psychopath.
Agreed. People toss around terms like 'psycho' and 'sociopath' like candy. Someone can be conditioned towards violence or being callous (soldiers in a war situation, people involved in organized crime etc) but that does not make them psychopaths or sociopaths per se. Nurture has as much impact as nature. Someone can become more violent or callous without necessarily losing all their humanity... clearly, you can see the difference between Tony and other gangsters in the show.
@BronzeBullBalls if you're conditioned to violent criminal behavior, guess what? that makes you a sociopath. you're like that guy who fucks men up the ass and claims he's not gay.
the mafia isn't warfare. these people are there to make a living off the suffering of others. don't ever compare what these nitwits do to the life of a soldier. the motivation are totally different. the psychology is totally different.
Oh god why are there always people on these vid making stupid comments trying to sound intelligent.you sound like twats,stop over analyzing things and enjoy the show
he should've whacked that traitor. pay attention to the last episode, the looks on paulie's face more than once tell the true story of what happens to tony. silivio was loyal to the end.
But he did tell Johnnie...CUZ he was trying to switch families...and wanted in on with Carmine....BUT JOHNNIE was using Paulie. Told him that Carmine truly loved him and respected Paulie....and when Paulie went up to Carmine...at the party....CARMINE didn't even know who the fuck Paulie was....talk about dummy.
Really hated that more that 75% of Tony's crew died in such a short life span (from the first episode to the end). That was guy who wasn't allowed to go to Florida, Vito, Ralphie, Anthony, Pussy, Chris, Sil (in a coma), Tony Soprano?
Tony took more power than he actually had as boss. Even if Paulie confessed, Paulie is a made guy. He needs the OK to whack him. Same thing with Ralphie and Christopher. Tony became such a douche.
Don't get me wrong, Paulie had even less of a conscience, but Tony wanted to whack him just because.
This scene is one of the favorites. Not many scenes have shown that fantastic what a terrible sociopath Tony is. He isn't digging up that story to bring some kind of sick justice to Paulie, he probably doesn't even care about that joke anymore. Paulie just annoys him, so he wants him out of the way and he gets mad, when he can't find an excuse for killing him. If the timeline is just long enough, Tony kills every single one close to him.
This scene is one of the favorites. Not many scenes have shown that fantastic what a terrible sociopath Tony is. He isn't digging up that story to bring some kind of sick justice to Paulie, he probably doesn't even care about that joke anymore. Paulie just annoys him, so he wants him out of the way and he gets mad, when he can't find an excuse for killing him. If the timeline is just long enough, Tony kills every single one close to him.
No one in the family was more loyal to Tony than Sil.And he actually wasn't kissing tony's ass,he just respected him as a boss and as a friend and tried to understand him everytime.Neither Chrissy who was he's cousin and one of the persons who tony loved the most,nor Paulie who knew him since a child and who was as a mentor for him.Not even Vito spatafore that i thought he was loyal but in fact he wanted tony's death while that was in the hospital,he wanted to become the boss of the family
paulie has been loyal to the game while tony was still shitting himself in diapers. never understood this scene, seemed pointless like the only bit of drama in an otherwise boring filler episode. shoulda been paulie contemplating pushing that beached whale overboard for a laugh.
@ShitWrangler I agree, unless... he actually was doing something he was not supposed to which would be the only thing that would break Paulie's conscience.
@MrBudgieman1 being a mob boss is not evil? would you put a guy that kills, steals, extorts on the same level as a blue collared guy that actually works hard for a living? and he clearly doesnt love his family since he fucks pretty much every chick that he meets when hes supposed to be a father and a husband. In this scene he contemplates killing one of his closest friends.. but since he loves animals, tony is just full of hardy goodness
@MrBudgieman1 You are retarded. "he loves is close friends and family and animals", so that makes him not evil? If you even watched the 2nd to last episode Melfi reads about the criminal mind, they have love for children and animals but not for other human life. And it doesnt matter that he commits crimes to feed his kids, because those crimes destroy other families.... you dont get the whole moral of the show because your a wannabe-thug cocksucka.
@CF40 Everyone has their own guidelines in terms of morals. The show is about questioning which set of morals is right... Melfi the conwoman or Tony the "sociopath"?
He doesn't even love his kids and family, he's a sophisticated psychopath; he views his wife and kids as posessions, objects, and he seeks to dominate in every relationship. Look at the show, where does he ever do anything that isn't beneficial to him in some way?
Dividing people into categories of either evil or good is very simplistic. Very few people fall into either category... most people... most interesting people, are a mix of both. If Tony was purely evil, the show would be unwatchable because we would have a very unlikable character as the star. I think Tony degenerates as the show progresses... but in seasons 1-3, he wasn't the worst gangster out there.
Good and evil can be unhelpful terms I agree, but someone like Tony is most probably a psychopath and so he has no conscience and no empathy if that doesn't make him entirely 'evil' what would?
I disagree. The term 'psychopath' applies to people who have a genetic predisposition to not being capable of feeling emotions. Psychopaths make up a very, very small part of the population. And not every psychopath is violent or becomes a murderer. Tony is probably more along the lines of a sociopath... someone who is hardened due to his upbringing and years spent in organized crime. Clearly, Tony has positive emotions as well.
I'm well aware of the difference between a psychopath and a sociopath, but I still believe, on balance, it is more likely Tony was a psychopath rather than a mere sociopath. Don't get me wrong he was good at hiding it, but in the end there was enough evidence to show how incredibly selfish he was.
He couldn't take being slighted or mocked, he was a glutton, unfaithful to his wife, a career criminal, a liar, a serial murderer, how much evidence is needed?
I don't agree at all that Tony is a psychopath. He gets angry, he feels sadness, he longs for a more positive relationship with his mother / uncle, he cares about his children, he has a code of ethics (albeit very skewed).. he is also very charismatic and is capable of advancing in organized crime. If Tony was nothing but an empty shell, this TV show would of fallen flat.
@BronzeBullBalls Funniest (and saddest) comment I've read here today. You may be the most clueless person on Earth if you think Tony isn't psychotic. Or maybe the standards of being a human being are so debased now that unbridled murderous violence is normal-I sure hope not. The whole point of the show was that Tony's conscience sent him to therapy-he's obviously sociopathic and psychotic. The drama of the series was an attempt to humanize him.
Actually, you're quite wrong. The Sopranos is akin to a tragedy play. All the main characters are doomed to unhappy endings... death or prison. All these characters are ultimately unhappy because their lives are stress-ridden and they know their fates are anything but secure... especially now that the Mafia is weaker and weaker. Tony Soprano is a fairly well adjusted person living in a sad set of circumstances, he works in the mob.You don't have to be a 'psycho' to work in the mob
A 'psycho' cannot have a conscience... they are genetically incapable of putting themselves in someone else's shoes or of feeling empathy. The characters in the Sopranos are flawed..they are weak.. they are callous, but very few are genuine psychopaths and sociopaths (Paulie, Ralph, Richie Aprile). It's not very hard to picture Tony Soprano working as a car salesman or as a sports coach.
'I was lazy I guess.." To quote Tony when asked why he got involved in LCN. Exactly, he fell into the mob because of close family ties and it was in his face every day. Had Tony Soprano grown up in Idaho or had his father went to Las Vegas, his life might of taken a totally different turn... Chase didn't make a show about the mob. He made a show about a guy who is in the mob and tries to balance his "family" and his family, and try to keep some semblance of humanity.
Dr.Melfi's final interpretation (and your own) of Tony's personality (when she dumps him) is very narrow. Tony wanted a better loving relationship with his mother. He felt guilty when she died and he felt relieved... that is one example of what a psychopath cannot do. I think you have a very shallow grasp of what a sociopath or psychopath is...
And I wouldn't say that 1% of the male population (the rate of psychopathy among women will be considerably lower) is a 'very, very small part' of that population. The odds are everyone who goes out and works and socialises interacts with at least one psychopath regularly.
Psychopathy is a term that has been displaced and misused due to pop culture and the media. Someone can be dishonest and an asshole and still not be a psychopath. Psychopaths have a genetic predisposition towards not feeling positive emotions (bonding, love etc) and are generally empty shells... they have to "pretend" emotions and having a personality. Psychopaths are very rare... even in prison and amongst criminal groups.
The classical evil genius psychopath stereotype with a ridiculously high IQ is even rarer. Most psychopaths are disorganized in their lives and in their crime. Psychopaths are also not generally very good at socializing or peer bonding either. Their relationships with people are generally short, abusive and broken. Clearly, this isn't Tony. Tony has managed to have a good following amongst his peers, a wife and a family.
Also, not all psychopaths gravitate towards crime and murder. Some can spend their entire lives as teachers, grocery store clerks and other more mundane jobs. The psychopath stereotype ALA 'Hannibal Lecter' is ridiculously out of touch with reality. Even as serial killers, psychopaths tend to lean towards disorganized as they have a hard time focusing their minds and planning ahead of time. A psychopath is basically a human being with a very dumbed down capacity for human emotion added withHADD.
@CF40 wtf r u serious? i think about killing my friends family even kids when i see a knife lieing around its just a natural thought that comes into our minds, and if it werent for the law half the times i wud do it
@WhiteRabbitm8te sorry to break it to you whiterabbit, but thoughts of killing friends, family and kids without provocation when you see a knife is not a natural thought,you should get some counseling
@ILoveRavenc at the same time, he never really bothered anyone. aside from his mafia friends, he didn't really hang out with anyone. he was kind of the loner of the group. i think he was harmless deep down
not sure about that,sure there was some respect in all of them but that was mostly out of fear for their lives.
let's not forget that Tony used to be under Paulie's hand when he was still a soldier,Paulie was there when Tony killed his first person.
The painting part was a difficult thing,on one hand it COULD have been a sign of personal respect,the other which is more likely is that he only got the thing to look good in Tony's eyes which backfired as you remember.
@ILoveRavenc Paulie didn't fix the painting to "look good in Tony's eyes." Paulie made sure Tony didn't know abut it and the only way Tony found out is because he happened to go to Paulies house, which is something he never did.
Throughout the entire series, Paulie seeks Tony's approval like a small child seeking approval from a parent. He also cowers like a child when Tony is angry. Paulie genuinely looks up to Tony.
@StuUngar i don't know,i mean yes there is that element of approval and need for Tony's admiration in him but in the long run Paulie was still a survivalist and a potential rat at heart,his constant childish laughs,his idiotic comments everywhere about everything,mostly about things he didn't even know shit about made him,at least in my eyes an ever bigger threat to the whole castle than Christopher who genuienly hated Tony by the end of the 6th season.
I love how Tony smiles at Paulie after Paulie shouts"" Oh That hurt !." Like in his mind Tony was thinking " You dont know how close you came to really hurting."
PAULIE IS THE ONE WHO PUT THE HIT ON TONY IN THE FINALE. HE KNEW HE WAS NEXT IN LINE AND GOT THE APPROVAL OF MOST THE CREW. HE WOULD OF TURNED ON TONY BEFORE IN THE SERIES TOO BUT JOHNNY LIED TO HIM
I reckon if T went for Paulie, you'd see the psycho in Walnuts turn on Tony! It'd be an interesting fight. If Ralphie held his own for a while, I'm sure Paulie could...
@ronaldoitalia1 maybe. It would be interesting but one thing is definitely for sure, Paulie was scared of Tony lol. If he didn't piss himself he might just take Tony!
@fvgdfbdokd You have a valid point; I think most people are slightly intimidated by their bosses (especially in the mob). I still reckon Paulie would fight back though (he wouldn't want to die for starters) and he looks in good shape for his age. Tony was one mean SOB though, and what a great character! Best series ever. I still watch it every week even though I've seen every episode at least twice lol. AJ would have kicked Tony's ass for sure though...on his X-Box.
I guess what Tony wanted to do is the same thing he did with Ralphie but the difference is that Paulie is a nice guy deep down and he respects Tony, Ralphie was a piece of shit...Tony realized he didn´t want to kill him, he was just mad at him.
its funny when lil pauly tells pauly the joke and pauly gets mad and said :"and you think its funny?!" like hes moral, yet pauly made the joke :"u grab jenny sac, your fuckn hands will dissappear" lol
@MobHeataEnt Paulie killed that miserable old harridan so he could catch up on payments to T, so T could pay Carmela her allowance, so Carmela could continue to live in that mansion and fart through silk. I've been saying since the second season that, other than Livia, Carmela is the most evil character on that show
@rtydhg9q Almost. She's pretty far up there. Some people have the silly illusion that there are protagonists and antagonists in this show, but they are all pieces of crap in the end. Sometimes, she even tried to get on her high horse with the other mob wives, even though all their money comes from the same rackets.
@itsallfake100 Paulie knows the game better than Tony which is what's so funny about this scene. Paulie was around with Feech Lamana, Junior & Johnny Soprano days.
@Animalice56 Exactly!! A Psychopath, but why do people admire him!? They dont admire Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Darmer. And these guys never fight fair- always going for the balls or attacking from behind - surely SOMEONE is a better fighter than Tony. Ralph sprayed insect repellant in his eyes but that didn't stop him so he must be a SUPERMAN.
@Animalice56 It was still within Cosa Nostra. This is why Tony would have been grossly in the wrong, like he was most of the time. The other thing is that a boss can't just go around killing his own captains randomly. Vic Amuso merely attempted that and practically his entire fucking family right up to his underboss flipped to the government.
@Tokopol Paulie had no loyalty to Tony and it was evident in the scene when he got on the elevator after giving Carmella money when Tony was in the hospital after being shot by Jr. Paulie would always go behind the families back and talk shit about them to Johnny Sack. He was a problem, and Tony knew it. When there's a cancer it has to be removed, no matter who they are. Paulie hated Ralph, and in spite of all the problems he knew it would cause, he still told Johnny about the joke.
@justentime77 People take being the boss of an LCN family for more than it is. Paulie not being devoted to Tony doesn't justify Tony unilaterally killing a captain. You can rant and rave about Paulie's lack of loyalty but if you'll scrutinize the show, you'll notice that the rest of the captains and Tony himself are no better than Paulie, so characterizing that behavior as a "cancer" is rather moot.
@justentime77 One of the main themes in the series was how in the modern mob there is NO loyalties. It is a total fantasy. Guys are in it for themselves only including Tony who was an extreme sociopath.
I agree that the issue of Tony confronting Paulie about blabbing the Ginny Sack joke should have been explored when Ralph and Johnny Sack were both still alive. What was the point of Tony's fretting about it three or four years after the fact and with those two guys now dead?
i've been watching seperate epidsodes of the sopranos for some time now some episodes were contemplates. and i still couldn't understand what was going on. is the show really complicated or would it be more understandable if i watch it from the start?
?also: why would tony kill paulie? and is there going to be a 6th season
@yuvalandspeed of course it would be, what the hell?! it was very coherent, the whole episode focussed on pauli being a blabbermouth, not very beneficial in this business.
@yuvalandspeed yeah the show is really, really complicated and you should watch it from begin to end. Its not complicated in the way that it is hard to understand but it is just so complex, so many things going on and interweaving with each other. I have watched the entire show I think 5 times and everytime I see new connections and recurring things. Its the best piece of television I have ever watched.
@tonypanz i'm pretty sure paulie was up there (says on wiki that he was made underboss when tony became boss, probably just because of seniority). still, a captain is a high tier position. Not every indian's gonna make chief.
Fucking idiot obnoxious fuck Paulie Tony should have whacked him fucking Paulie goes behind the familys back and gossips to Johnny Sac about the 50 pound mole shit it could have gotten them all killed if i was Tony i would have killed long before this
Paulie was one of my favs on the show but he was a liability to the crew. He did tell Sac about that joke & a lot of other family business. He was a hot head & a blabbermouth. Hasnt any1 ever noticed that paulie was an active mafia member since tony and the rest of the crew were children yet he never made it to any real rank? Tony, Sil and the others grew up to be bosses and Paulie basically was content with being a soldier/captain. He never strived to do better nor did he even have the brains.
@MIKESOWELL Yea true. Everyone has to play their role. Cant have all Chiefs and no Indians i guess lol. As i remember T tried to push paulies rank up a little bit, when their was no one else alive to fill the position lol, and paulie didnt even want it. He was hung up on all of his superstitious bs lol. Some ppl dont want the responsibility and pressure that comes with power and authority.
the last season of Sopranos was pretty bad,Tony lost control and didn't know what the fuck he was doing. After Jackie and Pussy both died he didn't care about having friends or his guys well being anymore since those two guys were his real friends. Paulie just gets on Tony's nerves he always did and he comes to the understanding just because he doesn't like Paulie doesnt mean he should kill him
How did Tony know that Paulie even heard the joke? Paulie was in jail and little paulie told him. He should be harassing little paulie then. THats how Paulie heard soooo Tony should know that little Paulie told Paulie right?
@ioanonissimo No, not completely, but somewhat. Probably more based on a real-life gangster named Vincent "Vinny Ocean" Palermo. There is a documentary on here. Search for "The DeCavalcante Family"
HEH HEH
BrendanIsCool 4 days ago
TONY IS A FUCKIN PSYCHO. I REALLY DONT THINK ANYBODY COULD HAVE PLAYED THE PART BETTER THEN JAMES..!
Langtry613 6 days ago
@Langtry613 I thought I read somewhere that Ray Liotta was offered the part but turned it down?
tryandlisten 3 days ago
@tryandlisten POSSIBLY, BUT IMO NOBODY COULD DO SUCH A STELLAR JOB.!
Langtry613 2 days ago
@Langtry613 ok I agree but you gotta yell about it? taykeideezy..... lol
tryandlisten 2 days ago
@tryandlisten lol.
Langtry613 1 day ago
im not a wanna be thug CF40. COCKSUCKA
MrBudgieman1 2 weeks ago
@BronzeBullBalls As a classic psychopath (harmless) personality myself, I agree with your definitions of these terms. Just because a person is violent and selfish doesn't necessarily make someone incapable of emotionally bonding with others. I never saw this show but I did see Deadwood and I'd say the Swearengin character is your classic violent psychopath.
PepeFastCars 1 month ago
Agreed. People toss around terms like 'psycho' and 'sociopath' like candy. Someone can be conditioned towards violence or being callous (soldiers in a war situation, people involved in organized crime etc) but that does not make them psychopaths or sociopaths per se. Nurture has as much impact as nature. Someone can become more violent or callous without necessarily losing all their humanity... clearly, you can see the difference between Tony and other gangsters in the show.
BronzeBullBalls 1 month ago
@BronzeBullBalls if you're conditioned to violent criminal behavior, guess what? that makes you a sociopath. you're like that guy who fucks men up the ass and claims he's not gay.
the mafia isn't warfare. these people are there to make a living off the suffering of others. don't ever compare what these nitwits do to the life of a soldier. the motivation are totally different. the psychology is totally different.
zackhanscom 1 week ago
You're like that guy on youtube who uploads a barbie lip sync video and then claims that he's not gay...
BronzeBullBalls 1 week ago
Tony Soprano is a fatass, always eating damn food
azurescens420 1 month ago
Oh god why are there always people on these vid making stupid comments trying to sound intelligent.you sound like twats,stop over analyzing things and enjoy the show
cheatingwanker 1 month ago
They all should have been "whacked" in the first episode, including the wives, kids and girlfriends. Scumbag criminals!
Adventurestud 2 months ago
@Adventurestud Yeah but we wouldn`t have enjoyed multiple seasons of one othe best (if not the best) tv dramas ever made
tarvolt 1 month ago
If he killed paulie , Ide hate tonys guts for life.
numberonemisfitsfan 2 months ago
he should've whacked that traitor. pay attention to the last episode, the looks on paulie's face more than once tell the true story of what happens to tony. silivio was loyal to the end.
fambamuce 2 months ago
It's comical how small that fork is in Tony's hands and how delicately he manipulates it.
ThePatriotMuckraker 2 months ago
But he did tell Johnnie...CUZ he was trying to switch families...and wanted in on with Carmine....BUT JOHNNIE was using Paulie. Told him that Carmine truly loved him and respected Paulie....and when Paulie went up to Carmine...at the party....CARMINE didn't even know who the fuck Paulie was....talk about dummy.
UFOSPACE1999 2 months ago 2
lol
TheWarrior2Game7 2 months ago
heh heh
debunker1905 3 months ago 2
Really hated that more that 75% of Tony's crew died in such a short life span (from the first episode to the end). That was guy who wasn't allowed to go to Florida, Vito, Ralphie, Anthony, Pussy, Chris, Sil (in a coma), Tony Soprano?
zardcat1111 3 months ago
lol at Paulie with the 'heh"s
aduysbv 3 months ago
Tony took more power than he actually had as boss. Even if Paulie confessed, Paulie is a made guy. He needs the OK to whack him. Same thing with Ralphie and Christopher. Tony became such a douche.
Don't get me wrong, Paulie had even less of a conscience, but Tony wanted to whack him just because.
FTArmy 3 months ago
when I saw this scene I though Paulie is gonna get wacked
mitsubishidiamante 3 months ago
paulie wants a stewarts.
merseynational 3 months ago
Was Tony ganna eat any of that pasta or was he just gonna move it around on the plate the whole time??!?!
MatchewBAR9 3 months ago 2
This scene is one of the favorites. Not many scenes have shown that fantastic what a terrible sociopath Tony is. He isn't digging up that story to bring some kind of sick justice to Paulie, he probably doesn't even care about that joke anymore. Paulie just annoys him, so he wants him out of the way and he gets mad, when he can't find an excuse for killing him. If the timeline is just long enough, Tony kills every single one close to him.
mrnagasaki13 4 months ago
@mrnagasaki13 yes..
piliuam 4 months ago
This scene is one of the favorites. Not many scenes have shown that fantastic what a terrible sociopath Tony is. He isn't digging up that story to bring some kind of sick justice to Paulie, he probably doesn't even care about that joke anymore. Paulie just annoys him, so he wants him out of the way and he gets mad, when he can't find an excuse for killing him. If the timeline is just long enough, Tony kills every single one close to him.
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ThizGuyDotCom 4 months ago
He should have killed him.
MSZKSG 4 months ago
loved paulie ,he was loyal to toney everyone bitches behind people s backs
guvnerrr 4 months ago
Paulie knew. I always liked Paulie but when you think about it he fucked up so many times.
texasB666 4 months ago
Theres so much eating in the Sopranos. I always get hungry watching
patrickedmund 4 months ago 21
it is because he is the best number 2 ever.
he didnt want to be the boss. He is the consiglieri
vidyoblog 5 months ago
PAULIE'S A SEXY MAN!!
jerseybuddy1 5 months ago
No one in the family was more loyal to Tony than Sil.And he actually wasn't kissing tony's ass,he just respected him as a boss and as a friend and tried to understand him everytime.Neither Chrissy who was he's cousin and one of the persons who tony loved the most,nor Paulie who knew him since a child and who was as a mentor for him.Not even Vito spatafore that i thought he was loyal but in fact he wanted tony's death while that was in the hospital,he wanted to become the boss of the family
MrAkastas 5 months ago
paulie has been loyal to the game while tony was still shitting himself in diapers. never understood this scene, seemed pointless like the only bit of drama in an otherwise boring filler episode. shoulda been paulie contemplating pushing that beached whale overboard for a laugh.
ShitWrangler 5 months ago
@ShitWrangler I agree, unless... he actually was doing something he was not supposed to which would be the only thing that would break Paulie's conscience.
spaceorbison 2 months ago
I dont get it why did Tony contemplate killing Paulie? Because he suspected Paulie was the one who told John about the joke?
my89tube 5 months ago
@my89tube
Yes, because Tony realized someone in his crew was leaking shit they were doing behind the NY family's back to them. ie....the HUD home scam.
Tony knew if Paulie leaked that joke to John, then that means Paulie was the one leaking other info.
If he'd of admitted to leaking that joke, he'd of never came back from that boat ride.
Abasuto 4 months ago
@Abasuto Ohhhhhh see I thought it was just because of the joke which IMO would be strange and uncalled for. But your explanation makes sense
my89tube 4 months ago
That was fuckin' intense. I'm fuckin' baked and that was fucked up. golden
DieMenschMaschine85 5 months ago
Tdidonato what makes you think that tony is evil? I dont think so at all. he loves his close friends and family, and loves animals.
he is a mafia boss so he has to do bad things, doesnt make you evil.
MrBudgieman1 5 months ago
@MrBudgieman1 I don't think Tony really loves his family, I think he just thinks it's his duty to be kind to them.
OzzyFan87 5 months ago
@MrBudgieman1 being a mob boss is not evil? would you put a guy that kills, steals, extorts on the same level as a blue collared guy that actually works hard for a living? and he clearly doesnt love his family since he fucks pretty much every chick that he meets when hes supposed to be a father and a husband. In this scene he contemplates killing one of his closest friends.. but since he loves animals, tony is just full of hardy goodness
theSolo33 5 months ago
@MrBudgieman1 You are retarded. "he loves is close friends and family and animals", so that makes him not evil? If you even watched the 2nd to last episode Melfi reads about the criminal mind, they have love for children and animals but not for other human life. And it doesnt matter that he commits crimes to feed his kids, because those crimes destroy other families.... you dont get the whole moral of the show because your a wannabe-thug cocksucka.
CF40 4 months ago 30
@CF40 Would you say that to my face internet tough guy? dont think so. i live in portsmouth, wanna meet so i can show you what a "wannabe-thug" i am?
Cocksucker.
MrBudgieman1 3 months ago
@MrBudgieman1 portsmouth lol your all queer cunts down there
relmmih6 1 month ago
@CF40 Would you say that to my face internet tough guy? dont think so. i live in portsmouth, wanna meet so i can show you what a "wannabe-thug" i am?
Cocksucker.
And yes i watched every episode. And Melfi talks shit.
Cocksucka(as you spell it).
MrBudgieman1 3 months ago
@CF40 Everyone has their own guidelines in terms of morals. The show is about questioning which set of morals is right... Melfi the conwoman or Tony the "sociopath"?
flimda 3 months ago
@flimda Majestic point there my friend.
TheWackadooFuckhead 2 months ago
@CF40
He doesn't even love his kids and family, he's a sophisticated psychopath; he views his wife and kids as posessions, objects, and he seeks to dominate in every relationship. Look at the show, where does he ever do anything that isn't beneficial to him in some way?
Every relationship he has is predatory.
theporksicle 2 months ago
Dividing people into categories of either evil or good is very simplistic. Very few people fall into either category... most people... most interesting people, are a mix of both. If Tony was purely evil, the show would be unwatchable because we would have a very unlikable character as the star. I think Tony degenerates as the show progresses... but in seasons 1-3, he wasn't the worst gangster out there.
BronzeBullBalls 1 month ago
@BronzeBullBalls
Good and evil can be unhelpful terms I agree, but someone like Tony is most probably a psychopath and so he has no conscience and no empathy if that doesn't make him entirely 'evil' what would?
theporksicle 1 month ago
I disagree. The term 'psychopath' applies to people who have a genetic predisposition to not being capable of feeling emotions. Psychopaths make up a very, very small part of the population. And not every psychopath is violent or becomes a murderer. Tony is probably more along the lines of a sociopath... someone who is hardened due to his upbringing and years spent in organized crime. Clearly, Tony has positive emotions as well.
BronzeBullBalls 1 month ago
@BronzeBullBalls
I'm well aware of the difference between a psychopath and a sociopath, but I still believe, on balance, it is more likely Tony was a psychopath rather than a mere sociopath. Don't get me wrong he was good at hiding it, but in the end there was enough evidence to show how incredibly selfish he was.
He couldn't take being slighted or mocked, he was a glutton, unfaithful to his wife, a career criminal, a liar, a serial murderer, how much evidence is needed?
theporksicle 1 month ago
I don't agree at all that Tony is a psychopath. He gets angry, he feels sadness, he longs for a more positive relationship with his mother / uncle, he cares about his children, he has a code of ethics (albeit very skewed).. he is also very charismatic and is capable of advancing in organized crime. If Tony was nothing but an empty shell, this TV show would of fallen flat.
BronzeBullBalls 1 month ago
@BronzeBullBalls Funniest (and saddest) comment I've read here today. You may be the most clueless person on Earth if you think Tony isn't psychotic. Or maybe the standards of being a human being are so debased now that unbridled murderous violence is normal-I sure hope not. The whole point of the show was that Tony's conscience sent him to therapy-he's obviously sociopathic and psychotic. The drama of the series was an attempt to humanize him.
pretorious700 1 month ago
Actually, you're quite wrong. The Sopranos is akin to a tragedy play. All the main characters are doomed to unhappy endings... death or prison. All these characters are ultimately unhappy because their lives are stress-ridden and they know their fates are anything but secure... especially now that the Mafia is weaker and weaker. Tony Soprano is a fairly well adjusted person living in a sad set of circumstances, he works in the mob.You don't have to be a 'psycho' to work in the mob
BronzeBullBalls 1 month ago
A 'psycho' cannot have a conscience... they are genetically incapable of putting themselves in someone else's shoes or of feeling empathy. The characters in the Sopranos are flawed..they are weak.. they are callous, but very few are genuine psychopaths and sociopaths (Paulie, Ralph, Richie Aprile). It's not very hard to picture Tony Soprano working as a car salesman or as a sports coach.
BronzeBullBalls 1 month ago
'I was lazy I guess.." To quote Tony when asked why he got involved in LCN. Exactly, he fell into the mob because of close family ties and it was in his face every day. Had Tony Soprano grown up in Idaho or had his father went to Las Vegas, his life might of taken a totally different turn... Chase didn't make a show about the mob. He made a show about a guy who is in the mob and tries to balance his "family" and his family, and try to keep some semblance of humanity.
BronzeBullBalls 1 month ago
Dr.Melfi's final interpretation (and your own) of Tony's personality (when she dumps him) is very narrow. Tony wanted a better loving relationship with his mother. He felt guilty when she died and he felt relieved... that is one example of what a psychopath cannot do. I think you have a very shallow grasp of what a sociopath or psychopath is...
BronzeBullBalls 1 month ago
@BronzeBullBalls
And I wouldn't say that 1% of the male population (the rate of psychopathy among women will be considerably lower) is a 'very, very small part' of that population. The odds are everyone who goes out and works and socialises interacts with at least one psychopath regularly.
theporksicle 1 month ago
Psychopathy is a term that has been displaced and misused due to pop culture and the media. Someone can be dishonest and an asshole and still not be a psychopath. Psychopaths have a genetic predisposition towards not feeling positive emotions (bonding, love etc) and are generally empty shells... they have to "pretend" emotions and having a personality. Psychopaths are very rare... even in prison and amongst criminal groups.
BronzeBullBalls 1 month ago
The classical evil genius psychopath stereotype with a ridiculously high IQ is even rarer. Most psychopaths are disorganized in their lives and in their crime. Psychopaths are also not generally very good at socializing or peer bonding either. Their relationships with people are generally short, abusive and broken. Clearly, this isn't Tony. Tony has managed to have a good following amongst his peers, a wife and a family.
BronzeBullBalls 1 month ago
Also, not all psychopaths gravitate towards crime and murder. Some can spend their entire lives as teachers, grocery store clerks and other more mundane jobs. The psychopath stereotype ALA 'Hannibal Lecter' is ridiculously out of touch with reality. Even as serial killers, psychopaths tend to lean towards disorganized as they have a hard time focusing their minds and planning ahead of time. A psychopath is basically a human being with a very dumbed down capacity for human emotion added withHADD.
BronzeBullBalls 1 month ago
@CF40 you fucking owned MrBudgieman1 LMAO
uhjinlee 3 weeks ago
@CF40 wtf r u serious? i think about killing my friends family even kids when i see a knife lieing around its just a natural thought that comes into our minds, and if it werent for the law half the times i wud do it
WhiteRabbitm8te 1 week ago
@WhiteRabbitm8te sorry to break it to you whiterabbit, but thoughts of killing friends, family and kids without provocation when you see a knife is not a natural thought,you should get some counseling
maven21 1 week ago
@maven21 lol i was kidding
WhiteRabbitm8te 1 week ago
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1:53 epic face.
sebbe2506 6 months ago
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sebbe2506 6 months ago
paulies dedicated to tony so why is tony going on about this so much.?
jimpurdie 6 months ago
Paulie was a survivalist,and he was ready for anything TO survive ( remember the granny? ) .
If it had at one point come down to either his future or the future of the family,he would have ratted out each and every one of them,including Tony.
Sure he may have been a funny guy but in truth he was a greedy ,selfish,cocky,uneducated piece of shit and his big mouth was THE worst part about him.
Personally,had it not been for his income ,Tony would have chopped him to bits a long time ago.
ILoveRavenc 6 months ago 4
@ILoveRavenc at the same time, he never really bothered anyone. aside from his mafia friends, he didn't really hang out with anyone. he was kind of the loner of the group. i think he was harmless deep down
dinkhead1 6 months ago
@ILoveRavenc He respected Tony I believe... The painting ;)
IntergalacticGnome 6 months ago
@IntergalacticGnome
not sure about that,sure there was some respect in all of them but that was mostly out of fear for their lives.
let's not forget that Tony used to be under Paulie's hand when he was still a soldier,Paulie was there when Tony killed his first person.
The painting part was a difficult thing,on one hand it COULD have been a sign of personal respect,the other which is more likely is that he only got the thing to look good in Tony's eyes which backfired as you remember.
ILoveRavenc 6 months ago
@ILoveRavenc Paulie didn't fix the painting to "look good in Tony's eyes." Paulie made sure Tony didn't know abut it and the only way Tony found out is because he happened to go to Paulies house, which is something he never did.
Throughout the entire series, Paulie seeks Tony's approval like a small child seeking approval from a parent. He also cowers like a child when Tony is angry. Paulie genuinely looks up to Tony.
StuUngar 6 months ago
@StuUngar i don't know,i mean yes there is that element of approval and need for Tony's admiration in him but in the long run Paulie was still a survivalist and a potential rat at heart,his constant childish laughs,his idiotic comments everywhere about everything,mostly about things he didn't even know shit about made him,at least in my eyes an ever bigger threat to the whole castle than Christopher who genuienly hated Tony by the end of the 6th season.
ILoveRavenc 4 months ago
@ILoveRavenc I agree with everything you said.....
Still don't think he rescued the painting seeking Tony's approval. If that was about Tony's approval, he would've never hid the painting from Tony.
StuUngar 4 months ago
2:26 Paulie reaching for a gun with his left hand.
chrispycritter2 6 months ago
At 2:26 it looks like Paulie is reaching for a gun!
chrispycritter2 6 months ago
Only a guy like Tony would eat that on a boat
hungryandrew 6 months ago 4
discomforting scene...good stuff
dinkhead1 6 months ago
after the 2nd season i really started to dislike paulie; he started to become a whinny kiss-ass
downtownford 7 months ago
I love how Tony smiles at Paulie after Paulie shouts"" Oh That hurt !." Like in his mind Tony was thinking " You dont know how close you came to really hurting."
morugaa 7 months ago 23
@morugaa Right! It didn't hurt nearly as much as a knife between the ribs would have.
Pat2296 6 months ago
I disagree, i think silvio was loyal to Tony, and i think Pauly would of been too, he just liked to moan. Bobby was loyal too.
MrBudgieman1 7 months ago
then, it seems, Paulie betrays Tony in the end.
mrscovil 7 months ago
I wonder if Tony would have killed him if he admitted he actually did tell Johnny.
CameronS654321 7 months ago
Can someone tell me why he watned to whack Paulie?
qwertypluss 7 months ago
@qwertypluss cause he made a joke about john sacrimonis wife, which made a lot of problems in NJ and NY relations
acrssl 7 months ago
@acrssl Cheers bro. Who's john sacrimoni lol? Sorry man, just started watching this incredible series, just curious. Is he a big cat?
qwertypluss 7 months ago
@qwertypluss well, you just keep watching and you will see everything! i dont want to ruin it for you
acrssl 7 months ago
@qwertypluss john sacrimoni, aka johnny sack...he was part of the new york crew, def a big cat...respectable, but a cold motherfucka
dinkhead1 6 months ago
@qwertypluss lol keep watchin! too complicated to tell...plus, it involves john sacrimoni who u still have to get acquainted with lol...enjoy
dinkhead1 6 months ago
hahaa hilarious Tony knows I was certain he was gonna whack him first time i saw this!
MrJayra210 7 months ago
he sooo wanted to kill him badly hahahah great acting. god damn
druha10304 7 months ago
1:56 -1:59 hahaha what the face :D !
ThePOLO6699 7 months ago 3
Tony is a str8 monster
jack11643 7 months ago
@jack11643 well he's a sociopath
debunker1905 3 months ago
PAULIE IS THE ONE WHO PUT THE HIT ON TONY IN THE FINALE. HE KNEW HE WAS NEXT IN LINE AND GOT THE APPROVAL OF MOST THE CREW. HE WOULD OF TURNED ON TONY BEFORE IN THE SERIES TOO BUT JOHNNY LIED TO HIM
ManFtheseNsandBs 7 months ago
Out of all the goombahs Tony whacked, Paulie is the one he shoulda whacked. Neorotic, sociopathic, germ phobic mama's boy.
bitterclinger100 7 months ago
I reckon if T went for Paulie, you'd see the psycho in Walnuts turn on Tony! It'd be an interesting fight. If Ralphie held his own for a while, I'm sure Paulie could...
ronaldoitalia1 7 months ago
@ronaldoitalia1 maybe. It would be interesting but one thing is definitely for sure, Paulie was scared of Tony lol. If he didn't piss himself he might just take Tony!
fvgdfbdokd 7 months ago
@fvgdfbdokd You have a valid point; I think most people are slightly intimidated by their bosses (especially in the mob). I still reckon Paulie would fight back though (he wouldn't want to die for starters) and he looks in good shape for his age. Tony was one mean SOB though, and what a great character! Best series ever. I still watch it every week even though I've seen every episode at least twice lol. AJ would have kicked Tony's ass for sure though...on his X-Box.
ronaldoitalia1 7 months ago
I guess what Tony wanted to do is the same thing he did with Ralphie but the difference is that Paulie is a nice guy deep down and he respects Tony, Ralphie was a piece of shit...Tony realized he didn´t want to kill him, he was just mad at him.
TonyB21987 8 months ago
its funny when lil pauly tells pauly the joke and pauly gets mad and said :"and you think its funny?!" like hes moral, yet pauly made the joke :"u grab jenny sac, your fuckn hands will dissappear" lol
Kronicyumyum 8 months ago
Remember that line from Tommy Boy? "Uhg... I can actually HEAR you getting fatter." No offense T.
zrhinier 8 months ago
Watching that boat going up and down made me feel quite sick lol.
Davewise1965 8 months ago
Pauli was always a cheap fuck
LonghornPhysicist 8 months ago
That fat fuck Tony is always eating pasta.
azurescens420 8 months ago
Yet another great scene.. with impeccable acting.. with Tony... eating. He loves eating basically.
zrhinier 8 months ago
These guys are sick, "time he hit Georgie in the eye with the chain hahaha" I mean Paulie Walnuts is a sicko especially! Killing that elderly woman.
MobHeataEnt 8 months ago
@MobHeataEnt Paulie killed that miserable old harridan so he could catch up on payments to T, so T could pay Carmela her allowance, so Carmela could continue to live in that mansion and fart through silk. I've been saying since the second season that, other than Livia, Carmela is the most evil character on that show
rtydhg9q 8 months ago
@rtydhg9q
Haha, ignoring the way the money in her pocket is being made? Doesn't every mafia wife do that?
MyDoominateR 7 months ago
@rtydhg9q Almost. She's pretty far up there. Some people have the silly illusion that there are protagonists and antagonists in this show, but they are all pieces of crap in the end. Sometimes, she even tried to get on her high horse with the other mob wives, even though all their money comes from the same rackets.
Tokopol 7 months ago
I have watched this scene a hundred times, but even though I know what is going to happen, I get all shaky.. That's sick
BRANDSTATION 9 months ago
@BRANDSTATION I don't know what's more sick. This scene, or that you watched it a hundred times...
TehWinnerz 9 months ago
@TehWinnerz I guess your grandmothers contagious asshole is something more sick :)
BRANDSTATION 9 months ago
@BRANDSTATION you tasted it too? D:
TehWinnerz 9 months ago
shows them for the scum they are...but so well acted and directed..they come across as old lonely souls with nothing sacred in their lives...
boybandmassacre2 9 months ago
Why didnt Tony go through with killing him?
cleander180 9 months ago
I love the pressure he is applying on Paulie to make him confess.
itsallfake100 9 months ago
@itsallfake100 Paulie knows the game better than Tony which is what's so funny about this scene. Paulie was around with Feech Lamana, Junior & Johnny Soprano days.
rufus317 8 months ago
thta ziti looks good right now
nauris705 9 months ago
1:56 - 1:58. the best
WMGDMS 9 months ago 2
I get sea sick watching this scene
Tdidonato 9 months ago 27
@Tdidonato tony is evil
jimpurdie 6 months ago
Tony is Secretly not just a mobster but a closet psychopathic seriel killer....He Likes It
Animalice56 9 months ago 3
@Animalice56 Exactly!! A Psychopath, but why do people admire him!? They dont admire Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Darmer. And these guys never fight fair- always going for the balls or attacking from behind - surely SOMEONE is a better fighter than Tony. Ralph sprayed insect repellant in his eyes but that didn't stop him so he must be a SUPERMAN.
cleander180 9 months ago
Dummy cuz it proved that he would go outside the Fam ....Maybe rival Familia's......Maybe the Feds.....Winning....Duh!!!!
Animalice56 9 months ago
@Animalice56 It was still within Cosa Nostra. This is why Tony would have been grossly in the wrong, like he was most of the time. The other thing is that a boss can't just go around killing his own captains randomly. Vic Amuso merely attempted that and practically his entire fucking family right up to his underboss flipped to the government.
Tokopol 7 months ago
@Tokopol Paulie had no loyalty to Tony and it was evident in the scene when he got on the elevator after giving Carmella money when Tony was in the hospital after being shot by Jr. Paulie would always go behind the families back and talk shit about them to Johnny Sack. He was a problem, and Tony knew it. When there's a cancer it has to be removed, no matter who they are. Paulie hated Ralph, and in spite of all the problems he knew it would cause, he still told Johnny about the joke.
justentime77 7 months ago
@justentime77 People take being the boss of an LCN family for more than it is. Paulie not being devoted to Tony doesn't justify Tony unilaterally killing a captain. You can rant and rave about Paulie's lack of loyalty but if you'll scrutinize the show, you'll notice that the rest of the captains and Tony himself are no better than Paulie, so characterizing that behavior as a "cancer" is rather moot.
Tokopol 7 months ago
@justentime77 One of the main themes in the series was how in the modern mob there is NO loyalties. It is a total fantasy. Guys are in it for themselves only including Tony who was an extreme sociopath.
PrismaMD 7 months ago
I agree that the issue of Tony confronting Paulie about blabbing the Ginny Sack joke should have been explored when Ralph and Johnny Sack were both still alive. What was the point of Tony's fretting about it three or four years after the fact and with those two guys now dead?
2335dark 9 months ago
i've been watching seperate epidsodes of the sopranos for some time now some episodes were contemplates. and i still couldn't understand what was going on. is the show really complicated or would it be more understandable if i watch it from the start?
?also: why would tony kill paulie? and is there going to be a 6th season
yuvalandspeed 9 months ago
@yuvalandspeed lol there's already a 6th season, which was also the final season. The show ended about 3 years ago.
TrueTrife 9 months ago
@yuvalandspeed of course it would be, what the hell?! it was very coherent, the whole episode focussed on pauli being a blabbermouth, not very beneficial in this business.
Braatwurscht 9 months ago
@yuvalandspeed yeah the show is really, really complicated and you should watch it from begin to end. Its not complicated in the way that it is hard to understand but it is just so complex, so many things going on and interweaving with each other. I have watched the entire show I think 5 times and everytime I see new connections and recurring things. Its the best piece of television I have ever watched.
philateliceun 9 months ago 3
@yuvalandspeed watch it from the start, my dear friend. This show is pure dynamite
Econ1260MetZRoberto 9 months ago
Paulie's laugh is fucking classic.
jmj540 9 months ago
@tonypanz i'm pretty sure paulie was up there (says on wiki that he was made underboss when tony became boss, probably just because of seniority). still, a captain is a high tier position. Not every indian's gonna make chief.
kennyoh 9 months ago
i got sea sick from watching this scene..
Manolobartolo 9 months ago
I seriously dont think tony is as bad as people make him sound.
Theguido177 10 months ago
Fucking idiot obnoxious fuck Paulie Tony should have whacked him fucking Paulie goes behind the familys back and gossips to Johnny Sac about the 50 pound mole shit it could have gotten them all killed if i was Tony i would have killed long before this
fishhead147 10 months ago
The best part is Paulie really did tell him about the joke lol.
CertifiedGooner729 10 months ago 29
@CertifiedGooner729 Tony knew that and was deciding weather it would be best to 'Off Him' or deal with it in other way's.
justentime77 9 months ago
@CertifiedGooner729 And Tony knew it!
justentime77 7 months ago
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CertifiedGooner729 10 months ago
brilliant.
BigOldMrKnish 10 months ago
I hope Tony burns In hell This dude was really sick In the head, pure phsycopath He would've killed A.J If he wanted
lordvoldemort578 10 months ago
@lordvoldemort578 of course Tony Soprano is a sick, murdering sociopath, but that is why we love him.
LonghornPhysicist 10 months ago
@LonghornPhysicist I know lol I can't say I hate him but he Is fucking twisted.
lordvoldemort578 10 months ago
@lordvoldemort578 Since Tony is actually a real live person I'm sure your wishes will come true. LMAO
GOODY61 9 months ago
Paulie was one of my favs on the show but he was a liability to the crew. He did tell Sac about that joke & a lot of other family business. He was a hot head & a blabbermouth. Hasnt any1 ever noticed that paulie was an active mafia member since tony and the rest of the crew were children yet he never made it to any real rank? Tony, Sil and the others grew up to be bosses and Paulie basically was content with being a soldier/captain. He never strived to do better nor did he even have the brains.
tonypanz 10 months ago
@tonypanz Yeah, but not every one is boss material....
MIKESOWELL 10 months ago
@MIKESOWELL Yea true. Everyone has to play their role. Cant have all Chiefs and no Indians i guess lol. As i remember T tried to push paulies rank up a little bit, when their was no one else alive to fill the position lol, and paulie didnt even want it. He was hung up on all of his superstitious bs lol. Some ppl dont want the responsibility and pressure that comes with power and authority.
tonypanz 10 months ago
@tonypanz Exactly. Paulie wanted the perks, but not the pressure. I just got tired of his whining.
MIKESOWELL 10 months ago
1st time i saw this i thought Paulee is gonna get wacked
mitsubishidiamante 10 months ago
This is around the time Tony started acting really weird. Should never have even thought about killing Paulie.
Obannonify 11 months ago
this show was so unbelievable at telling a story where ever character is lying to the other.
stevesport1 11 months ago
the last season of Sopranos was pretty bad,Tony lost control and didn't know what the fuck he was doing. After Jackie and Pussy both died he didn't care about having friends or his guys well being anymore since those two guys were his real friends. Paulie just gets on Tony's nerves he always did and he comes to the understanding just because he doesn't like Paulie doesnt mean he should kill him
bigtaxdizzle 11 months ago
1.56 is the actual devil on film
citizenspliff 11 months ago
@citizenspliff Yea for ppl that watch the series, that's the worst smile right there. fuckin creepy
Skyhighblu 11 months ago
Funny how they're not the least bit concerned about the fact the boat seems to nearly capsize with the motion of the waves.
theporksicle 11 months ago
How did Tony know that Paulie even heard the joke? Paulie was in jail and little paulie told him. He should be harassing little paulie then. THats how Paulie heard soooo Tony should know that little Paulie told Paulie right?
RawOne911 11 months ago
that fuckin ugly face at 1:58
kernreactie 11 months ago
what season nd episode is this from?
krbyzzz 11 months ago
@krbyzzz this is season 6 episode 15 "Remember When"
dmercado1690 11 months ago
is it true that the tony soprano charachter is based on a new jersy mobster named michael tacetta. ??
and are they a like??
ioanonissimo 1 year ago
@ioanonissimo No, not completely, but somewhat. Probably more based on a real-life gangster named Vincent "Vinny Ocean" Palermo. There is a documentary on here. Search for "The DeCavalcante Family"
graddy49 11 months ago