Two years, later. I agree, let's hope that there is an awakening going on in the world and let's hope that the world becomes tired with christianity, islam, sic and the rest.
Oh and obviously, private schools are a cancer on any egalitarian society. But I bet you'll find, even in a completely state based system, there'll be some form of internal segregation - it's what people do. But at least we can make it damned inconvenient for the ruling classes! Let them jump through a few hoops!
Schools need to teach objective knowledge and nothing else. I don't see how hard that is to support (well okay i see that for extremists, but extremists are anti-civilization).
In fact from a young age the most important class should be informal logic.
The UK govt thinks that continued public funding of faith schools will promote community cohesion. What a bunch of comedians. Yesterday's political consensus, forged when we were monocultural, is now forcing us into an ever growing fracturing of the education system, as more splinter groups demand their 'rights'. And the 'right' of parental choice always scares the politicians so.
But of course, it's SUCH a good idea to educate children separately...where's their choice?
Yes, the nature of "choice" contains its own contradictions, (if I may say so, see my video "The Illusion Of Choice"). However, as a "clever" working class child who went to a middle class school via the 11 Plus exams, I don't think there ever was a true consensus, certainly not in terms of social class.
True, when I said monocultural, I meant white western and Christian culture, not class. I was an 11+ boy too, who lived in a council house and went to grammar school, firsat in my family. Something was working back then.
I just meant that the consensus then, when religion could be tolerated because it was white and liberal, does not apply in today's multifaith society. Islam especially is a totally different beast. So we obviously need a new set rules. Disestablish! Secularise! Peace!
Thanks for this. I've worked in state schools for a looong time and hate the elitism of faith (should be called sectarian) schools. The attitude of most parents represent the least admirable human qualities: snobbery, piousness, hypocrisy (how many parents *actually* believe?), racism, exclusivity, selfishness. They dress it up in different ways, but it always adds up to the same thing.
They should fund the school completely if they want it. Parasites, leeching off our taxes.
Catholics and communists. we used to go to church to heckle the priests. I just happened to be taking a sip of tea when you said that and I laughed so hard it came out my nose. eww
I'm a student of life and a careful consumer of information. I've questioned religion and considered everything. I've attended churches and read the bible. I finally saw the light at about 35 after seeing the constant hypocrisy and contradiction in religion. What confuses most I think is how its bundled with basic teachings of how to treat life and people. That does not make "God" exist. And when sports figures thank God when they win, I laugh. Its absurd, as is religion. Great job on this!
Thanks. Yes, it would be interesting to see interviews with athletes and players who have just lost, maybe cursing God or confessing the sins which presumably made God decide they should lose! Surprisingly, we never hear this.
Appreciate most of the points. However "Each of these religions say it's the only true path" is wrong. For instance I know that Hindus never claim that only their faith is true.
Eastern religions cannot be judged in the same way as Abrahamic religions. As Sam Harris says, "Religion is an umbrella word like sport". Comparison b/n certain religions are like comparing 'lawn bowling and kick boxing'.
A fair point in theological terms. It would also be reasonable to apply that to zen or tao/daoism. However, as seen with Tibetan Buddhism pre-1950, organised religions become oppressive, vying for power and inflicting their beliefs on non-believers.
The massacre of Christians by Hindu "fundamentalists" which is currently being reported in the Orissa region of India
would seem to back up my point that, whatever the theology, because religion is essentially irrational and open to endless interpretation, organised religious structures become oppressive, aggressive and compete for power both with other religions and with state institutions.
Agree with the last point, however Orissa is more complex than just religion. It was oppression hidden under religious nationalism vs Christian and missionaries who were targeted becuase a Hindu religious leader was killed by Naxelites who claimed to act on behalf of the Christians. I guess the Christian theology of non-violence prevented it from this becoming like a Israel/Palestine like conflict.
In many cases, the effect of religions is different because of their theologies.
Religion often provides a handy cover for policies of "divide and rule". Ireland is a good example. The Protestant working class were initially given marginally better conditions than Catholics, leading to resentments on one side andf, on the other, an unfortunate desire to protect (minimal) "privilege". Few conflicts are genuinely theological but religion provides a visceral layer to communal divisions.
The Chechnyan war proves further, why effect of theologies differ. For the first generation fighters it was a ethnic conflict, later islamic theology was introduced, and was given the shape of a religious war and hence worsened. Now, there are militants who genuinely believe in a religious conflict. This would've never become the case with say, Georgia X Ossetia.
I heard that in Northern Ireland, it used to be that if ur Atheist you'd to be 'Protestant Atheist' or a 'Catholic Atheist'. :)
You might also be asked which part of Ireland you came from, the North or the South? Answer : the West! Both conflicts which you mention also contained elements of anti-Communism, albeit that Russia was Stalinist and is now capitalist, gangster-style.
when i was at school i remember a girl transferring to our school from catholic grammer and she was really shocked because her volition and habitual patterns were controlled and once she had freedom she just could not handle it and she became terribly depressed and went totally amityville.
As DeadMan6666 says, this is indeed very good. I don't know with other countries, but here in Norway, religion is a part of the education in 1st to 10th grade (Age 5/6 to age 15/16). It really slows me down in my general education and on working on subjects I believe really matters; science, English and math. Approximately 1/8 of my education is religion mumbo-jumbo, in fact. It tires me out having to writes pages after pages about how God, Allah, and/or how every buddhism-god created the world.
It's depressing how proponents of religion & "spirituality" (see below) are unable to grasp even the most basic logic : a need or even a desperate desire for meaning, along with a search for meaning, however long, in no way proves or guarantees the existence of meaning. I think many people find this scary and religion acts as a childish comfort blanket which humnanity is slowly growing out
yeah so true mate im 16 and religion already fucks me off but also makes me laught how people still believe it tbh people need to wake up the bible was from a time when ppl for tht eowlrd was flat and the sun set in the sea o.0
less004, you know what's even more depressing, watching the weaker proponents of atheism use false flag logic as a platform to launch sweeping generalizations on the cerebral strength of several billion fucking people. Class A man!
It must be pretty fucking cloudy up there at pinnacle of mankind. Say high to the Pople and John Hagee for me asshole.
There are indeed billions of people (whether they're fucking or not, only they know) who believe in religions. Different religions. Can they all be right? I think it's valid, necessary and interesting to consider their motives and reasons. On the other hand, they seem to feel no need (or have no ability) to produce any evidence. Apart from bluster and (self) righteous indignation, have you actually got any contribution to make to a rational debate?
Dint say Israelites (or jews) have the backing and approval of God, they lost it both warnings according to their own records. A record which itself hints is corrupt and un-whole where it says the scribes had a lying pen in Jer 8:8. Its a handy quote you might like to use a bit. There are many religions under the flags "buddhist, christian, muslim, hindu" if you have the time look up lost gospels on utoob. Christians insist jesus is a sacrifice altough God does not want sacrifice but repentence.
You said one thing about buddhism i that is deceptive. You said that buddhism claims to be the only one religion? I suggest the problem with religion is not religion, but a specific mindset. Guns dont kill people, people do and in the same way religion is this "gun" or tool. God could not enlighten Israelites instantly, but atleast he managed to convince them to stop sacrificing human beings. One thing Muhamed was teaching to arabs was non-violence to women which was rampant. He never hit women.
Religions are competitive - just like any other business. In Tibet, before 1950, there were armed clashes, (a civil war) between various monastic factions : Buddhist versus Buddhist, competing for state power. And, if you were a non-believer there, you still had to put up with a parasitic layer of monks who had a "divine right" for their behaviour. It may be that Israelis no longer use sacrificial altars, but they seem quite willing to slaughter Palestinians.
What is a christian? can anyone call him or herself this and as if by magic turn into one? All can make such a claim. But is was famously said, "Their mouths are close to me, but their hearts are faaaaaaaar from me". Im saying the problem is with a mentality or state of consciousness that causes everything to dance around like ninjas so that your belief appears true. We cannot judge atheism by karl marx or Christ by christians. God made comments too short :D should make my own vids to explain.
religions are like some men ....they just come and go after giving women an unplesant time HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA funniest thing ive heard in a long time
OMG I find you so funny but it's true I had to go to a Catholic School and one of the teachers was an ex-priest, he was a Pedo he felt me and my friends up and talked about sex all the time!
Just in case he is still alive, his name is Tony Beal and he had a pilots licence
Wrong! Not all religions say their religion is the one true religion. Many Western atheists make this mistake because they assume because Islam, Judasim and Christianity say this,all religions do. Hinduism and Buddhism do not make these claims, they say there are many paths to God.
Though their definition of God is different from the Abrahamic definition. Eastern religions are more of a philosophy or way of life than a set of rigid rules like the Abrahamic faiths.
There's some validity in that. But (a big but) it's often a rather fine distinction. Take The Tibetan Book Of The Dead as an example : it's specific about the "rules". When Buddhism organises as a state power (e.g. the monastic civil wars in Tibet pre 1950) dissent is crushed and the "way of life" (e.g. a parasitic layer of monks) imposed on non-believers. The claiming of a higher authority and a greater purpose is used to oppress. In fact, faith schools here are overwhelmingly Abrahamic.
Science, reason, and common sense are the future of humanity...these are the tools for which the working class will forge a new world. Not some midieval bullshit fabricated by a few desert nomads thousands of years ago.
The fact that many nations in the West are trying to sneak religion into their already decaying educational system is a disgrace.
It is no wonder that almost every educated professional in the West is from Asia.
Yet another outstanding video, 5 stars! Well said.
Religion is a disease that has infected humanity, it is a creation of the bourgeoise to keep their servants ignorant & obedient. The destructive philosophy of religion is a capitalist phenomenon, the capitalists always knew that the people starving in poverty under their opression would need some motivation to live, and work.
Karl Marx was 100% correct, "religion is opium for the poor"
Really? So your definition of a bigot is someone who doesn't want religions to impose their views on those who disagree? Don't forget, religions disagree with each other too, so I guess they're all bigots in each other's eyes?
They may disagree on small points ,but dont BASH and put out HATE SPEECH as u do at over 90% of the world because they dont share your ideas that's a TRUE BIGOT! You are very NARROW MINDED ,intolerant person to bash others for their personal faith. Let me guess u live in a tiny town in the middle of no where. You would never make it were I live (NY) you are to close minded & intolerant of others Creeds. Just as bad as judging someone by Race. Your a true BIGOT.
I said (clearly, though you appear not to have heard) that it's none of my business what people choose to believe as individuals. Good guess : I live in a small town called London along with several million other people. "Make it"? That couldn't be a materialist concept winning out over a spiritual one, could it?
timm9 just can't understand what you are trying to tell him. He doesn't understand that the reason we 'bash' as he puts it, is for freedom. There is no point in debating with him.
Sadly, I think you're right. Still, he may be consoled by the idea that we'll be burning in hell for eternity while he's having a good pluck on the celestial haro!
Your sarcasm fails to make up for your colossal ignorance about world history and western civilization. The history of European culture is inexorably intertwined with theism, most notably Christianity. In your haste to hang all thats bad on it, you omit all the much more numerous positives. There's not enough space here to debate a baboon such as yourself. Please read a book or two before you set yourself up for ridicule again.
please do tell something good about religion. Heres a context.the dark ages, the inquisition, the destruction of entire cultures in South America and all over the world the support of Nazism the war on Kosovo, the myriads of Christianity related religions, the pedophilia they r agenda when aiding 3 world countries the fanaticism that it brings, the unchecked power that gives to their supporters...
Actually, I have studied both history and theology. I'm guessing I've read a couple of thousand books, though only a few dozen concerned with religion. Not bad for a baboon. Glad you don't succumb to sarcasm or ignorance. Well done!
One wouldnt guess that as your arguments dont appear to be any deeper than one you might hear from a 17 year old with one year at university. I'm all for reasoned and informed discussion on the nature of religious faith. Most of what you have said along with some of your supporting peanut gallery is ignorance trying to pose as cleverness. Spirituality and the search for meaning is essential to the human character, which is why you have so many dolts trying Wicca.
What you and other self described atheists have done is simply hijacked Christianity, picked and chose from other creeds and removed the idea of God from your own little personal moral universe, ignoring the inconvenient fact that good and evil can't actually exist in an indifferent universe where everything happens by chance collision of atoms.
"little world", "little universe"? Gosh, I'm feling a bit cramped here! From my reading of the Bible, (e.g. The sermon On The Mount) I think it's obvious that Christinanity has been hijacked by various "Christian" churches. Have you considered that "good" and "evil" are, firstly, constructs of consciousness and, secondly, culturally and historically relative? Outside of religions, who believes that good and evil are absolute concepts and, within churches, who has ever stuck to that?
I know you were only being patronising, but your comments about the "little" world / universe of atheists is interesting and often said. If you look through a telescope and then through a microscope and then look around the world, isn't there an amazing variety of beautiful, interesting, exciting forms? The world / universe seems huge to me and I seem very small, though there is also a "universe" within me. If you're right, we'll find out after death - my opinions shouldn't bother you.
I would guess that the only arguments which you would recognise as "deep" are those with which you agree. Could you support your assrtions? I agree about meaning, but how is spirituality essential? Your definition and evidence? It may be that some form of religious belief once had some evolutionary benefit but it became a bulwark against all forms of progress : social, economic and scientific. An example : consider the role of the Catholic Church in its defence of Europe's feudal system.
the bible told me so though... maybe I should be a scientologist instead.. J.K. ...no but seriously if we all understood the very cultures that believed in each religion, we can see how they came to be and came to follow. Deconversion is a hard process haha. and I totally agree...children should be told right and wrong and not religion and to fear for their eternal soul. Thank Evangelists, Jehovah witnesses, Mormonism...etc that make religion so easy to pass off.
I said that it's none of my business what people think as individuals, it's religious groups who want to impose their views which I'm against. Are you against serial killers? that's a bit intolerant, isn't it?
What if you want contraception or abortion and it's banned because of religious beliefs? What if you both choose to get stoned and commit adultery but don't choose to commit adultery and get stoned? Religions want power and they want to excercise power over those who don't believe in their religion. How intolerant is that?
Thats right if u dont agree with what Religion says then "dont watch it". No double standard. ALOT of people are killed each year for their faith being intolerant to others Creeds (faiths)or race is very dangers. Learn to be open minded nuff to understand over 90% of the world does not share your ideas and to bash them over that is VERY NARROW MINDED.
NO, IT'S FREEDOM OF SPEECH but of course it's always a one-way measure in the eyes of the religious: The faithful can critize, the non-faithfull cannot.
hahaha, you are a total legend. From 00:15 i laughed none stop the whole way through....
Nice, very nice.
tomwiddv2 5 months ago
Two years, later. I agree, let's hope that there is an awakening going on in the world and let's hope that the world becomes tired with christianity, islam, sic and the rest.
nattvonagmar 1 year ago
im against faith schools...schools should teach facts not the lies of religion...
brewt1mer 1 year ago
you sir have good comic delivery and had me laughing through most of your video great work lol
wakcedout 1 year ago
"Just got through the door and it started pouring with rain"
****Pharrp****
Kelly take your one cheak sneaks and get the hell out of here!
kingsod 2 years ago
Dirty man!! Let's one rip @ 0:05 and yes Mark...we DID notice - you even adjust your posture so as not to trap it.
Disgraceful!
kingsod 2 years ago
*mantlepiece*
mmartini50 3 years ago
I love thentlepiece! It's just like the one in the house I grew up in!
mmartini50 3 years ago
Real fires too! I burn religious texts on a regular basis!
less004 3 years ago
Nice vid - well put arguements
plungerharris 3 years ago
Well... I choose Hobbits then. PRAISE BILBO!
snugsaltynutz 3 years ago 2
Bored of the Rings? I certainly am!
less004 3 years ago
It's hard to bow down to a hobbit...
DavidCoy99 3 years ago 2
Oh and obviously, private schools are a cancer on any egalitarian society. But I bet you'll find, even in a completely state based system, there'll be some form of internal segregation - it's what people do. But at least we can make it damned inconvenient for the ruling classes! Let them jump through a few hoops!
mmartini50 3 years ago
Preferably hoops which happen to be on fire! Actually, that's probably just an average initiation rite at Eton!
less004 3 years ago
Bow down to the all might Hobbits. NOW!
jaws900 3 years ago
You have to be careful with irrationality - it can be hobbit-forming!
less004 3 years ago
Schools need to teach objective knowledge and nothing else. I don't see how hard that is to support (well okay i see that for extremists, but extremists are anti-civilization).
In fact from a young age the most important class should be informal logic.
0lord0kinbote0 3 years ago 3
I agree. Knowledge is something objectively testable and verifiable. Beliefs aren't.
less004 3 years ago
The UK govt thinks that continued public funding of faith schools will promote community cohesion. What a bunch of comedians. Yesterday's political consensus, forged when we were monocultural, is now forcing us into an ever growing fracturing of the education system, as more splinter groups demand their 'rights'. And the 'right' of parental choice always scares the politicians so.
But of course, it's SUCH a good idea to educate children separately...where's their choice?
mmartini50 3 years ago
Yes, the nature of "choice" contains its own contradictions, (if I may say so, see my video "The Illusion Of Choice"). However, as a "clever" working class child who went to a middle class school via the 11 Plus exams, I don't think there ever was a true consensus, certainly not in terms of social class.
less004 3 years ago
True, when I said monocultural, I meant white western and Christian culture, not class. I was an 11+ boy too, who lived in a council house and went to grammar school, firsat in my family. Something was working back then.
I just meant that the consensus then, when religion could be tolerated because it was white and liberal, does not apply in today's multifaith society. Islam especially is a totally different beast. So we obviously need a new set rules. Disestablish! Secularise! Peace!
mmartini50 3 years ago
Thanks for this. I've worked in state schools for a looong time and hate the elitism of faith (should be called sectarian) schools. The attitude of most parents represent the least admirable human qualities: snobbery, piousness, hypocrisy (how many parents *actually* believe?), racism, exclusivity, selfishness. They dress it up in different ways, but it always adds up to the same thing.
They should fund the school completely if they want it. Parasites, leeching off our taxes.
mmartini50 3 years ago
Of course, the only way we'll ever have equal opportunities in education is when there are no private schools at all.
less004 3 years ago
Catholics and communists. we used to go to church to heckle the priests. I just happened to be taking a sip of tea when you said that and I laughed so hard it came out my nose. eww
FactVsReligion 3 years ago
And that would have been the sort of slapstick so popular on YouTube!
less004 3 years ago
Like the posts. I think I detect a hint of Mersey in your voice, despite being in Croydon...
Keep up the interesting work.
liberalmatt 3 years ago
i am sorry religion, is another form of corruption.
it just wants to control us, stop gays, stop the poor, rape little boys!
i hate conservative evangelicals
thepasword 3 years ago 3
This has been flagged as spam show
im gonna subscribe! :)
lanananans 3 years ago
At least we do agree on something.
DeusMerdaeEst 3 years ago
Worrying, isn't it?
less004 3 years ago
Yes - worrying, and utterly insane.
DeusMerdaeEst 3 years ago
I'm a student of life and a careful consumer of information. I've questioned religion and considered everything. I've attended churches and read the bible. I finally saw the light at about 35 after seeing the constant hypocrisy and contradiction in religion. What confuses most I think is how its bundled with basic teachings of how to treat life and people. That does not make "God" exist. And when sports figures thank God when they win, I laugh. Its absurd, as is religion. Great job on this!
frogzlove 3 years ago 2
Thanks. Yes, it would be interesting to see interviews with athletes and players who have just lost, maybe cursing God or confessing the sins which presumably made God decide they should lose! Surprisingly, we never hear this.
less004 3 years ago
Appreciate most of the points. However "Each of these religions say it's the only true path" is wrong. For instance I know that Hindus never claim that only their faith is true.
Eastern religions cannot be judged in the same way as Abrahamic religions. As Sam Harris says, "Religion is an umbrella word like sport". Comparison b/n certain religions are like comparing 'lawn bowling and kick boxing'.
burningmars 3 years ago
A fair point in theological terms. It would also be reasonable to apply that to zen or tao/daoism. However, as seen with Tibetan Buddhism pre-1950, organised religions become oppressive, vying for power and inflicting their beliefs on non-believers.
less004 3 years ago
The massacre of Christians by Hindu "fundamentalists" which is currently being reported in the Orissa region of India
would seem to back up my point that, whatever the theology, because religion is essentially irrational and open to endless interpretation, organised religious structures become oppressive, aggressive and compete for power both with other religions and with state institutions.
less004 3 years ago
less004,
Agree with the last point, however Orissa is more complex than just religion. It was oppression hidden under religious nationalism vs Christian and missionaries who were targeted becuase a Hindu religious leader was killed by Naxelites who claimed to act on behalf of the Christians. I guess the Christian theology of non-violence prevented it from this becoming like a Israel/Palestine like conflict.
In many cases, the effect of religions is different because of their theologies.
burningmars 3 years ago
Religion often provides a handy cover for policies of "divide and rule". Ireland is a good example. The Protestant working class were initially given marginally better conditions than Catholics, leading to resentments on one side andf, on the other, an unfortunate desire to protect (minimal) "privilege". Few conflicts are genuinely theological but religion provides a visceral layer to communal divisions.
less004 3 years ago
The Chechnyan war proves further, why effect of theologies differ. For the first generation fighters it was a ethnic conflict, later islamic theology was introduced, and was given the shape of a religious war and hence worsened. Now, there are militants who genuinely believe in a religious conflict. This would've never become the case with say, Georgia X Ossetia.
I heard that in Northern Ireland, it used to be that if ur Atheist you'd to be 'Protestant Atheist' or a 'Catholic Atheist'. :)
burningmars 3 years ago
You might also be asked which part of Ireland you came from, the North or the South? Answer : the West! Both conflicts which you mention also contained elements of anti-Communism, albeit that Russia was Stalinist and is now capitalist, gangster-style.
less004 3 years ago
Superb piece, man - thanks for posting this!
geffel 3 years ago
when i was at school i remember a girl transferring to our school from catholic grammer and she was really shocked because her volition and habitual patterns were controlled and once she had freedom she just could not handle it and she became terribly depressed and went totally amityville.
reptilehuNTah 3 years ago
As DeadMan6666 says, this is indeed very good. I don't know with other countries, but here in Norway, religion is a part of the education in 1st to 10th grade (Age 5/6 to age 15/16). It really slows me down in my general education and on working on subjects I believe really matters; science, English and math. Approximately 1/8 of my education is religion mumbo-jumbo, in fact. It tires me out having to writes pages after pages about how God, Allah, and/or how every buddhism-god created the world.
EasytoonGuy 3 years ago
Yes, they say it only took God a few days to create the world, but it seems that talking about it takes forever!
less004 3 years ago
wow.this is so fucking good.
DeadMan6666 3 years ago
so true m8
dobahz 3 years ago
It's depressing how proponents of religion & "spirituality" (see below) are unable to grasp even the most basic logic : a need or even a desperate desire for meaning, along with a search for meaning, however long, in no way proves or guarantees the existence of meaning. I think many people find this scary and religion acts as a childish comfort blanket which humnanity is slowly growing out
of.
less004 3 years ago
yeah so true mate im 16 and religion already fucks me off but also makes me laught how people still believe it tbh people need to wake up the bible was from a time when ppl for tht eowlrd was flat and the sun set in the sea o.0
dobahz 3 years ago
less004, you know what's even more depressing, watching the weaker proponents of atheism use false flag logic as a platform to launch sweeping generalizations on the cerebral strength of several billion fucking people. Class A man!
It must be pretty fucking cloudy up there at pinnacle of mankind. Say high to the Pople and John Hagee for me asshole.
MattMickiewicz 3 years ago
There are indeed billions of people (whether they're fucking or not, only they know) who believe in religions. Different religions. Can they all be right? I think it's valid, necessary and interesting to consider their motives and reasons. On the other hand, they seem to feel no need (or have no ability) to produce any evidence. Apart from bluster and (self) righteous indignation, have you actually got any contribution to make to a rational debate?
less004 3 years ago
And i much apreciate your utoob efforts, keep it up
blessings & thanks
spiceant 3 years ago
Dint say Israelites (or jews) have the backing and approval of God, they lost it both warnings according to their own records. A record which itself hints is corrupt and un-whole where it says the scribes had a lying pen in Jer 8:8. Its a handy quote you might like to use a bit. There are many religions under the flags "buddhist, christian, muslim, hindu" if you have the time look up lost gospels on utoob. Christians insist jesus is a sacrifice altough God does not want sacrifice but repentence.
spiceant 3 years ago
You said one thing about buddhism i that is deceptive. You said that buddhism claims to be the only one religion? I suggest the problem with religion is not religion, but a specific mindset. Guns dont kill people, people do and in the same way religion is this "gun" or tool. God could not enlighten Israelites instantly, but atleast he managed to convince them to stop sacrificing human beings. One thing Muhamed was teaching to arabs was non-violence to women which was rampant. He never hit women.
spiceant 3 years ago
Religions are competitive - just like any other business. In Tibet, before 1950, there were armed clashes, (a civil war) between various monastic factions : Buddhist versus Buddhist, competing for state power. And, if you were a non-believer there, you still had to put up with a parasitic layer of monks who had a "divine right" for their behaviour. It may be that Israelis no longer use sacrificial altars, but they seem quite willing to slaughter Palestinians.
less004 3 years ago
What is a christian? can anyone call him or herself this and as if by magic turn into one? All can make such a claim. But is was famously said, "Their mouths are close to me, but their hearts are faaaaaaaar from me". Im saying the problem is with a mentality or state of consciousness that causes everything to dance around like ninjas so that your belief appears true. We cannot judge atheism by karl marx or Christ by christians. God made comments too short :D should make my own vids to explain.
spiceant 3 years ago
religions are like some men ....they just come and go after giving women an unplesant time HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA funniest thing ive heard in a long time
thanks man awsome video~
pedestriancow 3 years ago
Cool yeah schools that believe in Aliens.. can we have them? Please
ghayklan 3 years ago
OMG I find you so funny but it's true I had to go to a Catholic School and one of the teachers was an ex-priest, he was a Pedo he felt me and my friends up and talked about sex all the time!
Just in case he is still alive, his name is Tony Beal and he had a pilots licence
ghayklan 3 years ago
Religion is just a collection of story's, That has been use to justify fraud Based on an interpetation.
Any thing used to justify a law is religion.
Through the imposition of fear in a population.
Church's are proberly still involved in something Oh yeah.... War.
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The Church PeOplE CoulD hElp us Grow NiCe FooD
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herdofthis 3 years ago
Well...there is no God, however, there are Hobbits, albeit we call them Irishmen now. Just kidding.
robtul12 3 years ago 2
Well said :)
AppleMassacre 3 years ago
Wrong! Not all religions say their religion is the one true religion. Many Western atheists make this mistake because they assume because Islam, Judasim and Christianity say this,all religions do. Hinduism and Buddhism do not make these claims, they say there are many paths to God.
Though their definition of God is different from the Abrahamic definition. Eastern religions are more of a philosophy or way of life than a set of rigid rules like the Abrahamic faiths.
Ecuaruby 3 years ago
There's some validity in that. But (a big but) it's often a rather fine distinction. Take The Tibetan Book Of The Dead as an example : it's specific about the "rules". When Buddhism organises as a state power (e.g. the monastic civil wars in Tibet pre 1950) dissent is crushed and the "way of life" (e.g. a parasitic layer of monks) imposed on non-believers. The claiming of a higher authority and a greater purpose is used to oppress. In fact, faith schools here are overwhelmingly Abrahamic.
less004 3 years ago
very articulate!
LoreleiMission 3 years ago
I love everything you say! :D
SexyLamber 3 years ago
Science, reason, and common sense are the future of humanity...these are the tools for which the working class will forge a new world. Not some midieval bullshit fabricated by a few desert nomads thousands of years ago.
The fact that many nations in the West are trying to sneak religion into their already decaying educational system is a disgrace.
It is no wonder that almost every educated professional in the West is from Asia.
wnxsilence 3 years ago
Yet another outstanding video, 5 stars! Well said.
Religion is a disease that has infected humanity, it is a creation of the bourgeoise to keep their servants ignorant & obedient. The destructive philosophy of religion is a capitalist phenomenon, the capitalists always knew that the people starving in poverty under their opression would need some motivation to live, and work.
Karl Marx was 100% correct, "religion is opium for the poor"
wnxsilence 3 years ago 2
On a side note your house needs up dating. Just trying to help.
timm9 3 years ago
That's a better argument. You're not an interior design bigot by any chance?
less004 3 years ago
Less=Bigot.
timm9 3 years ago
Really? So your definition of a bigot is someone who doesn't want religions to impose their views on those who disagree? Don't forget, religions disagree with each other too, so I guess they're all bigots in each other's eyes?
less004 3 years ago
They may disagree on small points ,but dont BASH and put out HATE SPEECH as u do at over 90% of the world because they dont share your ideas that's a TRUE BIGOT! You are very NARROW MINDED ,intolerant person to bash others for their personal faith. Let me guess u live in a tiny town in the middle of no where. You would never make it were I live (NY) you are to close minded & intolerant of others Creeds. Just as bad as judging someone by Race. Your a true BIGOT.
timm9 3 years ago
I said (clearly, though you appear not to have heard) that it's none of my business what people choose to believe as individuals. Good guess : I live in a small town called London along with several million other people. "Make it"? That couldn't be a materialist concept winning out over a spiritual one, could it?
less004 3 years ago
timm9 just can't understand what you are trying to tell him. He doesn't understand that the reason we 'bash' as he puts it, is for freedom. There is no point in debating with him.
SAULGENESISFANREBORN 3 years ago
Sadly, I think you're right. Still, he may be consoled by the idea that we'll be burning in hell for eternity while he's having a good pluck on the celestial haro!
less004 3 years ago
Well, leave him to it, you can try to educate someone but it is their choice if they want to take it in or not.
SAULGENESISFANREBORN 3 years ago
Your sarcasm fails to make up for your colossal ignorance about world history and western civilization. The history of European culture is inexorably intertwined with theism, most notably Christianity. In your haste to hang all thats bad on it, you omit all the much more numerous positives. There's not enough space here to debate a baboon such as yourself. Please read a book or two before you set yourself up for ridicule again.
DanS24106 3 years ago
please do tell something good about religion. Heres a context.the dark ages, the inquisition, the destruction of entire cultures in South America and all over the world the support of Nazism the war on Kosovo, the myriads of Christianity related religions, the pedophilia they r agenda when aiding 3 world countries the fanaticism that it brings, the unchecked power that gives to their supporters...
BrunoKoveras 3 years ago 3
Actually, I have studied both history and theology. I'm guessing I've read a couple of thousand books, though only a few dozen concerned with religion. Not bad for a baboon. Glad you don't succumb to sarcasm or ignorance. Well done!
less004 3 years ago
One wouldnt guess that as your arguments dont appear to be any deeper than one you might hear from a 17 year old with one year at university. I'm all for reasoned and informed discussion on the nature of religious faith. Most of what you have said along with some of your supporting peanut gallery is ignorance trying to pose as cleverness. Spirituality and the search for meaning is essential to the human character, which is why you have so many dolts trying Wicca.
DanS24106 3 years ago
What you and other self described atheists have done is simply hijacked Christianity, picked and chose from other creeds and removed the idea of God from your own little personal moral universe, ignoring the inconvenient fact that good and evil can't actually exist in an indifferent universe where everything happens by chance collision of atoms.
DanS24106 3 years ago
What youre seeking is to be the God of your own little world.
DanS24106 3 years ago
And you, of course, have risen above this. Well done for seeing a "truth" for which there is no evidence, let alone proof.
less004 3 years ago
"little world", "little universe"? Gosh, I'm feling a bit cramped here! From my reading of the Bible, (e.g. The sermon On The Mount) I think it's obvious that Christinanity has been hijacked by various "Christian" churches. Have you considered that "good" and "evil" are, firstly, constructs of consciousness and, secondly, culturally and historically relative? Outside of religions, who believes that good and evil are absolute concepts and, within churches, who has ever stuck to that?
less004 3 years ago
I know you were only being patronising, but your comments about the "little" world / universe of atheists is interesting and often said. If you look through a telescope and then through a microscope and then look around the world, isn't there an amazing variety of beautiful, interesting, exciting forms? The world / universe seems huge to me and I seem very small, though there is also a "universe" within me. If you're right, we'll find out after death - my opinions shouldn't bother you.
less004 3 years ago
I would guess that the only arguments which you would recognise as "deep" are those with which you agree. Could you support your assrtions? I agree about meaning, but how is spirituality essential? Your definition and evidence? It may be that some form of religious belief once had some evolutionary benefit but it became a bulwark against all forms of progress : social, economic and scientific. An example : consider the role of the Catholic Church in its defence of Europe's feudal system.
less004 3 years ago
the bible told me so though... maybe I should be a scientologist instead.. J.K. ...no but seriously if we all understood the very cultures that believed in each religion, we can see how they came to be and came to follow. Deconversion is a hard process haha. and I totally agree...children should be told right and wrong and not religion and to fear for their eternal soul. Thank Evangelists, Jehovah witnesses, Mormonism...etc that make religion so easy to pass off.
hellomynameisrodney 3 years ago
your great!!!!
i love this!
ChaseLevine 3 years ago 4
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Its VERY intolerant TO bash other groups just because they dont share your ideas. Less= Just another Bigot.
timm9 3 years ago
I said that it's none of my business what people think as individuals, it's religious groups who want to impose their views which I'm against. Are you against serial killers? that's a bit intolerant, isn't it?
less004 3 years ago
"impose their views"
Dont like what they have to say then dont watch it. No one is forcing u.
timm9 3 years ago
What if you want contraception or abortion and it's banned because of religious beliefs? What if you both choose to get stoned and commit adultery but don't choose to commit adultery and get stoned? Religions want power and they want to excercise power over those who don't believe in their religion. How intolerant is that?
less004 3 years ago
Thats right if u dont agree with what Religion says then "dont watch it". No double standard. ALOT of people are killed each year for their faith being intolerant to others Creeds (faiths)or race is very dangers. Learn to be open minded nuff to understand over 90% of the world does not share your ideas and to bash them over that is VERY NARROW MINDED.
timm9 3 years ago
NO, IT'S FREEDOM OF SPEECH but of course it's always a one-way measure in the eyes of the religious: The faithful can critize, the non-faithfull cannot.
Torchmark 3 years ago
"IT'S FREEDOM OF SPEECH"
Thats right when people disagree with gays its FREEDOM OF SPEECH! No double standards.
timm9 3 years ago
If you don't agree with what gay people do, then don't watch!
less004 3 years ago
you are right man i hate religion!!
WATAFUCK2008 3 years ago 6
Very good and humerous ;)
MajinVegetaDraco 3 years ago 7
Well put, mate. Thank you!
Please do more vids.
marcuskaye 3 years ago 8
Subscribed.
ieatwiteoutforfun 3 years ago 6
the condell is strong with this one. That was a compliment.
intelligentfalling 3 years ago 12