@ZZKe7, I've just spent the last hour reading this thread while drinking a nice bottle of red aftera google on the possibility of Marty's retune to AFL with my beloved Collingwood. It's a shame that your thread friend bapfontein removed (or maybe had his) comments removed bfore I got here but I have a pretty good idea of his sentiment from the various responses. Based on your energy levels debating Monsier Bapfontein you could maybe do a job alongside Marty if he returns to our shores.
Our gaa team got to the intermediate football final in 2006. That same senior panel had at least four protestant members. Anyways what does that have to do with aussie rules and how us Irish boys dominate in the skills of this sport
@bapfontein Nope, Ive backed up everything Ive said as much as is possible. Named Protestant GAA members, for example. I even answered your stupid questions that you attempted to cloud the issue with; such as re-sets in rugby scrums, figures for VAT receipts on the building of Croke Park and the ethnics make up of U12 teams. It's not a non-discussion, it's a one way discussion. I'm answering your questions, you;re hiding from your own words and ignoring verifiable facts. Answer my questions.
Well I don't really want to get involved with a non-discussion if i can. I suggest you forget about it. Evidence to support your view has been presented and ignored. Theres not much else you can do than show someone evidence for your claims. You certainly need not listen to the claims of someone who provides NO evidence.
why are people arguing over the religion of gaa members? Iam a playing member and I'm an atheist. My club has had protestant players in the past and present. The Sam mcGuire cup was named after a protestant republican. It shouldn't matter.
@taibshe Oh I already pointed that out. He doesn't consider Sam Maguire a "self-respecting" Protestant. Or Peter Whitnell, or Jack Boothman....... He calls them traitors and says they cease to exist as Protestants once they involve themselves in the GAA.
Come on, answer my three little questions. You said "Their are 10 GAA clubs within a 5 mile radius where I live , we have recently done a in depth check , to see how many self respecting member or even badly misguided members of the Protestant community are members, play , or in anyway involved in the GAA clubs" Who is 'we'? How did you get this info? What were you going to do about any 'traitors' (your word) you found?
@bapfontein Ive named protestants who are in the GAA, so you're verifiably wrong. The man who coined that phrase has sinc relented. Your words were "Their are 10 GAA clubs within a 5 mile radius where I live , we have recently done a in depth check , to see how many self respecting member or even badly misguided members of the Protestant community are members, play , or in anyway involved in the GAA clubs." who is 'we'? how did u get this info? what had you planned next? Answer me.
@bapfontein Yes, and by all those Protestants that you don't count. You DO realise that you've jut criticised the violence associated with GAA while praising soccer, right? Does the word Heysel mean anything to you?
Now, like I KEEP asking, who is this 'we' you refer to who obtained full membership lists for 10 GAA clubs to look for Protestant traitors? What are you hiding here?
@bapfontein How did you do it, and who is 'we'? and how did you identify who wsa Protestant and who wasn't? If it's that easy you should have no trouble explaining.
@bapfontein You were banging on about the wonders of soccer. You're clearly a Unionist so it perfectly fair to ask how clean your house is. (Not very, is the answer.)
@bapfontein oh, and if u like rule confusion, what did you make of Steve Hanson changing the interpretation of the breakdown halfway through the 6 nations? How many scrums will have to be reset in the Heineken Cup final? And how many crooked put ins will there be? How many players will dive in the Champs league final? And how many clean shoulder-to-shoulder challenges will be punished as fouls?
@bapfontein and if ifs and buts were candy and nuts..... The games are held up by as much as ten minutes trying to have one scrum. You didn't mention the crooked put ins or the breakdown confusion.
And you're trying to muddy the waters and change the subject, You have no proof of any institutional discrimination against Protestants. YOU are the only person with a problem with Protestants playing. (and with America having a black president.)
@bapfontein You saked for an example, you got one. Do you want me to watch every game in the world and give you a breakdown of each one? Take your medicine, you've been shown up again. Are you ever going to answer my question?
@bapfontein Now, Ive answered all your pathetic and irrelevant, nit picking questions. Answer my questions about your behaviour. Who is the group that seeks out GAA playing Protestant 'traitors'? How did you get the list of membership? What do yo plan to do when you find a 'traitor'?
@bapfontein You did mention a group. You said 'we' sp who are you referring to? You said 'we' couldn't find any Protestants, indicating that you were looking for them. You said they were 'traitors.' These are your words. Who is we?
@bapfontein You said 'we' which implies a group. And Ive already given you a list of some prominent Protestants in the GAA so why are you saying 'NONE, ZILCH'. I've proven conclusively that that isn't true. Who is 'we'? and how did you get the information?
@bapfontein I dont want to put any name on it. You called them traitors. You're the only one with a problem with Protestants in the GAA. I've given you the names of several Protestants, including someone who later became a Loyalist paramilitary. Who is 'we'?
@bapfontein I never used the word 'rife' because that sounds like a bad thing. There are plenty of Protestants in the GAA (Ive played with them personally and given you examples) and very, very few members of the GAA care. Those that do have a problem with it are bigots and the association deals with them properly. Unlike the IFA.You have a problem with it. You are a bigot.
@bapfontein This is what you said, in all it's gloriously bad grammar "Their are 10 GAA clubs within a 5 mile radius where I live , we have recently done a in depth check , to see how many self respecting member or even badly misguided members of the Protestant community are members, play , or in anyway involved in the GAA clubs. " Who is we? How did you get the membership lists? what did you plan to do about any Protestants you found?
@bapfontein I have one profile and Im not twisting your words. Im copying and pasting them. Ill do it again in case yr a slow reader; "Their are 10 GAA clubs within a 5 mile radius where I live , we have recently done a in depth check , to see how many self respecting member or even badly misguided members of the Protestant community are members, play , or in anyway involved in the GAA clubs. "
So who is 'we'? How did you get this info? What was going to happen to any you found?
@bapfontein I think we can prove the moon is round. I've named Protestants in the GAA thereby debunking your claim there are none. You said "Their are 10 GAA clubs within a 5 mile radius where I live , we have recently done a in depth check , to see how many self respecting member or even badly misguided members of the Protestant community are members, play , or in anyway involved in the GAA clubs." Who is 'we'? How did u get the info? What had u planned next?
@bapfontein catholics are banned from Orange Order. Ive named Protestant at the very highest level of the GAA.
You said "Their are 10 GAA clubs within a 5 mile radius where I live , we have recently done a in depth check , to see how many self respecting member or even badly misguided members of the Protestant community are members, play , or in anyway involved in the GAA clubs" Who is 'we'? how did you get the info? What were you going to do about any Protestants u found?
@bapfontein The whole GAA had a Protestant president in Jack Boothman, but you don't count him. Who's 'we'? and stop flagging my comments as spam to hide from your own words. I just copied and pasted what you said.
@bapfontein If that were true you think there'd be proof. And there will never be any Protestants in the GAA if, as you claim, they cease to be 'proper' Protestants when they join. Youre the one keeping them out.
@bapfontein Just because someone says something doesnt make it true. Anyway, that phrase was coined by Ian Paisley, who completely changed his tune on nationalists in general (cost him his career too.)
@bapfontein Thats the spirit, when you're getting a hiding in an argument, turn on caps lock, repeat yourself and ignore what's being said. Who's 'we'?
@bapfontein Again you spout this crap about NORAID (I already dealt with that) and these imaginary links between the church and the GAA. Are there religious people who are catholics in the GAA? Certainly there are. There's a million people in the GAA. Are most people in the GAA catholic (at least nominally)? Certainly, its an Irish organisation and Catholocism is the dominant religion here. Has the GAA any formal links with the church? None whatsoever.
@bapfontein I already told you, my own club didn't have a religious service. Now since it's all but impossible for me to prove a negative, you tell me the rule which states there must be a catholic religious service. I've backed up my contentions with examples. You do the same. and WHO IS THE 'WE' YOU MENTIONED?
@bapfontein catholic church and the IRA? Arent we talking about the GAA? Im not doing any twisting. Ive debunked your claims and pasted your own words. Ive had the manners to answer every question youve asked. Now, "Their are 10 GAA clubs within a 5 mile radius where I live , we have recently done a in depth check , to see how many self respecting member or even badly misguided members of the Protestant community are members, play , or in anyway involved in the GAA clubs." answer me.
@bapfontein im copying and pasting your words, waiting, waiting, waiting for answers to three little questions. Who is 'we'? How did you get this information? What were you going to do about any 'traitors' (your word) you found?
@bapfontein No, you said 'we have done a in depth check' on 10 specific clubs. 'We' implies a group. Why else would you use that word? 'In depth' indicates a level of detail. You later said getting the information was easy. Should be easy to explain how you did it so.... Or have you been lying all along about 'we' doing 'a in depth check'? Stand over your own words. Why use 'we' why say 'in depth' if neither is appropriate? You're back pedalling furiously here.
@bapfontein But there ARE Protestants. Such as the one's of named. Like all bigots, you dehumanise people you don't like (in this case Protestants). You're dehumanising them to the point where they don't exist. Your refusal to acknowledge the facts presented to you doesn't make them any less true. There are Protestants, (and Muslims and Hindus) in the GAA. I've proven it.
So, did 'we' do 'a in depth investigation' or were you lying? Make a decision on this. One or the other is true.
@bapfontein Unless it's Neil Lennon, right? Or maybe if they're one of the 'traitors' you talked about.......? The GAA dealt with those scum appropriately.
@bapfontein Some people on opposing teams abused him. The GAA dealt with them and he came back and is playing now. He must like playing or he'd leave. Compare that to what Neil Lennon experienced from his own. You can't say "Their are no Protestant in the GAA/IRA full stop" because Ive given you the names of some easily verifiable individuals.
@bapfontein I never claimed any specific amount of Protestants play. I said some do, and I can claim this because I know some of them and have given you examples you can check for yourself.
Are you ever going to say who 'we' are who carried out 'a in depth investigation' ? as you claimed? Or why you used those words if there was no 'we' and no 'in depth investigation.'?
@bapfontein He's not the only one, as Ive opinted out, he's back playing again, as I've pointed out, and the treatment Neil Lennon got was even worse and went unpunished, as Ive pointed out.
As for conspiracy theories, all Im doing is asking questions based on your words, whcih were......
@bapfontein ""Their are 10 GAA clubs within a 5 mile radius where I live , we have recently done a in depth check , to see how many self respecting member or even badly misguided members of the Protestant community are members, play , or in anyway involved in the GAA clubs"
If there is no 'we' then why did you use that word? If there was no in depth check, why did you use that phrase?
@bapfontein Go to a bookshop, select Keith Duggan's 'The Lifelong Season' and look up Lucan Sarsfields. A number of the kids mentioned are now playing to a very high level, bhy the way.
Fyi, Catholics are banned from the Orange Order, so they wont be joining.
@bapfontein You still deny the existence of the others Ive named, and anyway, my questions related to the specific terms you chose to use. Ill put my quesions in captials and number them so you can answer......
1) IF THERE IS NO 'WE' WHY DID YOU CHOOSE THAT WORD?
2) IF 'WE' DID NOT 'DO A IN DEPTH INVESTIGATION' THEN WHY DID YOU USE THAT PHRASE?
@bapfontein I'll even do you a favour, Ill answer questions you asked OTHER people. Displaying a homophobia we can add to your bigotry and racism, you asked "mrmoniker......under 12 Paddyball team ismade up of Muslims, Hindus, migets , queers etc. .....Name the GAA club that you belong to so anyone , who is not Irish Catholic can go along and join in the GAA Ugly Games. Now , put up or shut up , name that team. "
@bapfontein I dont need do go into depth cos I know some personally. YOU claimed 'WE DID A IN DEPTH INVESTIGATION" I challenge you to answer my very simple questions about it this in depth investigation. I don't know how many are in each club cos I don't hunt them down like you claim to. I know my own teammates, one or two people on neighbouring teams, and the famous ones.
@bapfontein Like Ive told you six or seven times, I know lads on my own team who are Protestant. You said there are none, Ive told you I know some personally, AND given you the names of some prominent ones.
@bapfontein ah but you said you did do an in depth investigation, in fact you said 'we' did in relation to ten specific clubs. Ive already commented several times on the Darren Graham business, and pointed out that he is back playing, so it must have been resolved to his satisfaction. Now, are you going to answer my very reasonable questions, which are entirely based on your own words?
@bapfontein Are you ever going to identify who 'we' are? Or why you used the word 'we'? or why you used the phrase 'in depth investigation'? or why you said it was easy to get the membership lists of ten specific clubs? Im only questioning you on your words.
@bapfontein never heard that song, and if there were formal links they wouldnt be scrapping it would they? The artane boys band plays many, may songs. now, do I have to paste your words again? "Their are 10 GAA clubs within a 5 mile radius where I live , we have recently done a in depth check , to see how many self respecting member or even badly misguided members of the Protestant community are members, play , or in anyway involved in the GAA clubs. " You know the questions by now.
@bapfontein Oh, and Im still waiting to hear what 'we' have planned for the 'traitors.' Along with an explanation of how you got the complete membership lists of ten clubs.
@bapfontein The GAA offers the world the same thing as most sporting organisations - sport. And the games are played in more countries than, say, American Football or baseball, not that that matters at all.
@bapfontein Well it can only be indigenous to one place. That's what indigenous means. And why can't I name American and Australia? Type 'Hurling America' into the search bar, then 'East Haven Gaelic football.' They've got GAA clubsall over the US and Australia. There's a huge hurling club in Buenos Aires, I've a cousin playing football in China, Europe is riddled with GAA clubs. And I've heard there's a part of the UK where GAA is very popular......
@bapfontein Black ass Obama? Well, that's the level of conversation Id expect from someone who thinks there's 20 billion people in the world. So you're racist as well as sectarian? Nice.
@bapfontein Oh, so now you think they DO want Protestants to join? You've changed your stance completely. Now, who's "we"? Who is the group you are a member of that tries to identify 'traitors' (your word) who join the GAA? You're the one who brought it up so don't ignore it now.
@bapfontein You're not really making any point there. And GAA attendance figures are perfectly healthy. Feel free to tune into any of the big games this summer and see for yourself. More people will be at both All-Irelands than the world cup final. The GAA has a million members, almost one in every five people in the country.
@bapfontein 3.6 million? That would mean the entire population of the Republic attended. But then again, you did think there was 20 Billion + people in the world.
@bapfontein Im in dispute with your figures. 20 billion? When you said 'world' you were referring to Earth, right? The GAA has a million members. That's plenty. They dont need any big recruitment drives in Ireland. Rugby dreams of that level of participation.
@bapfontein what? this makes no sense. I think your asking what Im disputing. Firstly, the existence of 20 billion humans. Secondly, institutionalised anti-Protestant discrimination in the GAA. I also take issue with your derogatory terms for Catholics and Blacks, your made up 'facts', and your one sided view of sectarianism in general in northern society. (Its ok for the IFA or Orange Order to do it....)
@bapfontein Yeah numbers were down.........cos the teams that qualified represented areas with much smaller populations than previous years. They have 1,000,000 fee paying members for God's sake. They're doing fine.
@bapfontein Nope, thats just the ones off the top of my head, and I think the son of a UDR man counts as a Protestant. Maybe you have different ideas of what makes a 'pure blood' Protestant.
@bapfontein Oh, from not knowing he existed now you know his mother's religion? He's a protestant himself, but if it were true his mother wasn't, that would mean he's not pure blood enough for you, right? You're still ignoring Peter Whitnell, which is convenient for you.
@bapfontein Darren Graham was happy enough with the response he got at all levels to come back and play. Young Catholics feel so unwanted by the Northern soccer community that they're queuing up to declare for the Republic. Driven out by bigots like you, who consider Darren Graham a 'misguided traitor.' Now, who's 'we'?
Who's the group that you are a part of that obtained membership lists of ten clubs to look for Protestant traitors? well?
@bapfontein Erm I think the GAA response did the trick. He's back playing for his club now. Only stopped for about a month. Compare that to the IFA response to bigotry in soccer. Billy Bingham conducts the choir singing 'Greysteel, trick or treat' - silence. Derry hounded out of the league - silence. Neil lennon recieves death threats so credible he's forced to leave the game - silence. Massed ranks of scumbags in Windsor park chant 'we've got a provo on out team' - silence.
live 20 mins away from that 'Darren' guy and played against him. you dont know what the guy was like and how much of a gypsy he was..your ignorrance is forgivable however, he was portrayed as an angel but anything he got was less than what he deserved. he assaulted three players in that match alone. just so you know.
p2 well over a year now..its people like you that cause irritation and disturbance..who make the irish crave for freedom and really want you to get the fuck out.
here "bapfontein" if you would have stayed away there would have been no trouble for you. am not a ra man im a gaa man.have had nothin to do with the ra and take offense to your prejudice remarks..just because your daddy has told you how bad the catholics were when really you lot were shootin us on the streets and terrorising innocent people when hidden behind your big guns.. causing fear and hassel during everyday life..before you start, ive been going with a protestant girl from england for p1
GAA is an ALL INCLUSIVE game which welcomes all creeds and religions.
I'm a protestant and play it and have never been anything but welcomed by my club mates. Some of my protestant mates also play and have no negative experiences...... so please get your facts straight before saying GAA is catholic only.
i play gaelic football for both my club and county..i went down 2 the trials in dublin..The afl recruitin camps..So possily i think i know how 2 flick the ball off the ground.
Am not being cheeky and am glad 2 see marty playing well down under, I was a sub the time he played aginst derry in the football.
i take it by wogball you mean soccer - i play gaelic football (gaa) you numpty - same as martin clarke did in ireland - you know.. the team that beat the best of AFL last year... egg ball would have been 'alien' to him so its even more impressive.. read between the fuckin lines - anything else i need to explain to yis?
Mate your a fucking idiot how about when your 19 or were imagining moving to a the other side of the world where you dont know anyone. Man new draft people get home sick from another state like Brad Daizell its only another state not around the world you fucking idiot, its a common thing and he is still very young. How can you bag out Gaelic Football when our sport is based from that you dumb cunt!
your a clueless f**ker, no club or county would deny some1 a place on their squad because of religion, race or cultural diversity. open your eyes, times are changing.
Adn while Im at it.... the PSNI team? The Combined Services team that came down to the Curragh to play the Irish Army? The London Met team? How many do you want me to name?
HAHA... i havent looked at these videos in id say 6 months and you are still here shiting on about the IRA and the GAA... what a sad sad little life you must live that so much of your time is dedicated to this.. LOL .... you can continue on with your bullshit, i just need to remind myself sometimes that you are a know nothing secrarian peace of scum who copy/pastes the same bullshit over and over again.
Protestants are welcomed in the GAA.. just like any other religion. You clearly have a thing with catholicism with all the warped bullshit you write. Whereas the me, and 99.9999% of other irish ppl dont care what religion someone is. The troubles are over.. you are still leading a sad little life and tbh i feel sorry for you :D
MARTY CLARKE IS BACK!
PokemonGuruMaster 4 months ago
@Taryna12571162891 how about fuck off you spamhead cunt
Forthereckoning 5 months ago
@ZZKe7, as an afterthought, much as I enjoyed your diligence
, be mindful of the quote "Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
sunnies72 7 months ago
@ZZKe7, I've just spent the last hour reading this thread while drinking a nice bottle of red aftera google on the possibility of Marty's retune to AFL with my beloved Collingwood. It's a shame that your thread friend bapfontein removed (or maybe had his) comments removed bfore I got here but I have a pretty good idea of his sentiment from the various responses. Based on your energy levels debating Monsier Bapfontein you could maybe do a job alongside Marty if he returns to our shores.
sunnies72 7 months ago
that is so common in gaelic
seanybo2011 8 months ago
Do it in a real game. Oh wait... he went back to Ireland.
Lochsabre 1 year ago
@Lochsabre Yeah and he plays in the All-Ireland Final next weekend so good on him.
hill1916 1 year ago 4
@Lochsabre shame he went back to ireland but thats how you have to pick up the ball in gaelic you cant take it straight off the ground
jamabar 1 year ago
@Lochsabre shut up faggot why don't you do it in a game ? wait you're shit.
KingLaaaaa2k10 6 months ago
@KingLaaaaa2k10 u so mad. you must be mads to make someone accountable for a post they made a year ago and a video theyve long forgotten/cared about
Lochsabre 6 months ago
Get the ball off the ground
xsquallxedgex 1 year ago
Its called a hand toe, gaelic football players use it so they can actually
xsquallxedgex 1 year ago
Our gaa team got to the intermediate football final in 2006. That same senior panel had at least four protestant members. Anyways what does that have to do with aussie rules and how us Irish boys dominate in the skills of this sport
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein Nope, Ive backed up everything Ive said as much as is possible. Named Protestant GAA members, for example. I even answered your stupid questions that you attempted to cloud the issue with; such as re-sets in rugby scrums, figures for VAT receipts on the building of Croke Park and the ethnics make up of U12 teams. It's not a non-discussion, it's a one way discussion. I'm answering your questions, you;re hiding from your own words and ignoring verifiable facts. Answer my questions.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
Well I don't really want to get involved with a non-discussion if i can. I suggest you forget about it. Evidence to support your view has been presented and ignored. Theres not much else you can do than show someone evidence for your claims. You certainly need not listen to the claims of someone who provides NO evidence.
taibshe 1 year ago
why are people arguing over the religion of gaa members? Iam a playing member and I'm an atheist. My club has had protestant players in the past and present. The Sam mcGuire cup was named after a protestant republican. It shouldn't matter.
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@taibshe Oh I already pointed that out. He doesn't consider Sam Maguire a "self-respecting" Protestant. Or Peter Whitnell, or Jack Boothman....... He calls them traitors and says they cease to exist as Protestants once they involve themselves in the GAA.
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@bapfontein Ive named protestants who are in the GAA, so you're verifiably wrong. The man who coined that phrase has sinc relented. Your words were "Their are 10 GAA clubs within a 5 mile radius where I live , we have recently done a in depth check , to see how many self respecting member or even badly misguided members of the Protestant community are members, play , or in anyway involved in the GAA clubs." who is 'we'? how did u get this info? what had you planned next? Answer me.
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein Yes, and by all those Protestants that you don't count. You DO realise that you've jut criticised the violence associated with GAA while praising soccer, right? Does the word Heysel mean anything to you?
Now, like I KEEP asking, who is this 'we' you refer to who obtained full membership lists for 10 GAA clubs to look for Protestant traitors? What are you hiding here?
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein How did you do it, and who is 'we'? and how did you identify who wsa Protestant and who wasn't? If it's that easy you should have no trouble explaining.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein Told you, went to school with them.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
@bapfontein Another thing (in a long list) you've ignored is the criticisms I made of the IFA. Anything to say there?
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein You were banging on about the wonders of soccer. You're clearly a Unionist so it perfectly fair to ask how clean your house is. (Not very, is the answer.)
ZZKe7 1 year ago
@bapfontein oh, and if u like rule confusion, what did you make of Steve Hanson changing the interpretation of the breakdown halfway through the 6 nations? How many scrums will have to be reset in the Heineken Cup final? And how many crooked put ins will there be? How many players will dive in the Champs league final? And how many clean shoulder-to-shoulder challenges will be punished as fouls?
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein and if ifs and buts were candy and nuts..... The games are held up by as much as ten minutes trying to have one scrum. You didn't mention the crooked put ins or the breakdown confusion.
And you're trying to muddy the waters and change the subject, You have no proof of any institutional discrimination against Protestants. YOU are the only person with a problem with Protestants playing. (and with America having a black president.)
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein Connaught V Toulon. First half.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein You saked for an example, you got one. Do you want me to watch every game in the world and give you a breakdown of each one? Take your medicine, you've been shown up again. Are you ever going to answer my question?
ZZKe7 1 year ago
@bapfontein Now, Ive answered all your pathetic and irrelevant, nit picking questions. Answer my questions about your behaviour. Who is the group that seeks out GAA playing Protestant 'traitors'? How did you get the list of membership? What do yo plan to do when you find a 'traitor'?
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein You did mention a group. You said 'we' sp who are you referring to? You said 'we' couldn't find any Protestants, indicating that you were looking for them. You said they were 'traitors.' These are your words. Who is we?
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein You said 'we' which implies a group. And Ive already given you a list of some prominent Protestants in the GAA so why are you saying 'NONE, ZILCH'. I've proven conclusively that that isn't true. Who is 'we'? and how did you get the information?
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein I dont want to put any name on it. You called them traitors. You're the only one with a problem with Protestants in the GAA. I've given you the names of several Protestants, including someone who later became a Loyalist paramilitary. Who is 'we'?
ZZKe7 1 year ago
@bapfontein I never used the word 'rife' because that sounds like a bad thing. There are plenty of Protestants in the GAA (Ive played with them personally and given you examples) and very, very few members of the GAA care. Those that do have a problem with it are bigots and the association deals with them properly. Unlike the IFA.You have a problem with it. You are a bigot.
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bapfontein 1 year ago
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@bapfontein This is what you said, in all it's gloriously bad grammar "Their are 10 GAA clubs within a 5 mile radius where I live , we have recently done a in depth check , to see how many self respecting member or even badly misguided members of the Protestant community are members, play , or in anyway involved in the GAA clubs. " Who is we? How did you get the membership lists? what did you plan to do about any Protestants you found?
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein I have one profile and Im not twisting your words. Im copying and pasting them. Ill do it again in case yr a slow reader; "Their are 10 GAA clubs within a 5 mile radius where I live , we have recently done a in depth check , to see how many self respecting member or even badly misguided members of the Protestant community are members, play , or in anyway involved in the GAA clubs. "
So who is 'we'? How did you get this info? What was going to happen to any you found?
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein I think we can prove the moon is round. I've named Protestants in the GAA thereby debunking your claim there are none. You said "Their are 10 GAA clubs within a 5 mile radius where I live , we have recently done a in depth check , to see how many self respecting member or even badly misguided members of the Protestant community are members, play , or in anyway involved in the GAA clubs." Who is 'we'? How did u get the info? What had u planned next?
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
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@bapfontein catholics are banned from Orange Order. Ive named Protestant at the very highest level of the GAA.
You said "Their are 10 GAA clubs within a 5 mile radius where I live , we have recently done a in depth check , to see how many self respecting member or even badly misguided members of the Protestant community are members, play , or in anyway involved in the GAA clubs" Who is 'we'? how did you get the info? What were you going to do about any Protestants u found?
ZZKe7 1 year ago
@bapfontein The whole GAA had a Protestant president in Jack Boothman, but you don't count him. Who's 'we'? and stop flagging my comments as spam to hide from your own words. I just copied and pasted what you said.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein If that were true you think there'd be proof. And there will never be any Protestants in the GAA if, as you claim, they cease to be 'proper' Protestants when they join. Youre the one keeping them out.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein Just because someone says something doesnt make it true. Anyway, that phrase was coined by Ian Paisley, who completely changed his tune on nationalists in general (cost him his career too.)
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein Thats the spirit, when you're getting a hiding in an argument, turn on caps lock, repeat yourself and ignore what's being said. Who's 'we'?
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein Again you spout this crap about NORAID (I already dealt with that) and these imaginary links between the church and the GAA. Are there religious people who are catholics in the GAA? Certainly there are. There's a million people in the GAA. Are most people in the GAA catholic (at least nominally)? Certainly, its an Irish organisation and Catholocism is the dominant religion here. Has the GAA any formal links with the church? None whatsoever.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein I already told you, my own club didn't have a religious service. Now since it's all but impossible for me to prove a negative, you tell me the rule which states there must be a catholic religious service. I've backed up my contentions with examples. You do the same. and WHO IS THE 'WE' YOU MENTIONED?
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
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@bapfontein catholic church and the IRA? Arent we talking about the GAA? Im not doing any twisting. Ive debunked your claims and pasted your own words. Ive had the manners to answer every question youve asked. Now, "Their are 10 GAA clubs within a 5 mile radius where I live , we have recently done a in depth check , to see how many self respecting member or even badly misguided members of the Protestant community are members, play , or in anyway involved in the GAA clubs." answer me.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein im copying and pasting your words, waiting, waiting, waiting for answers to three little questions. Who is 'we'? How did you get this information? What were you going to do about any 'traitors' (your word) you found?
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein No, you said 'we have done a in depth check' on 10 specific clubs. 'We' implies a group. Why else would you use that word? 'In depth' indicates a level of detail. You later said getting the information was easy. Should be easy to explain how you did it so.... Or have you been lying all along about 'we' doing 'a in depth check'? Stand over your own words. Why use 'we' why say 'in depth' if neither is appropriate? You're back pedalling furiously here.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein But there ARE Protestants. Such as the one's of named. Like all bigots, you dehumanise people you don't like (in this case Protestants). You're dehumanising them to the point where they don't exist. Your refusal to acknowledge the facts presented to you doesn't make them any less true. There are Protestants, (and Muslims and Hindus) in the GAA. I've proven it.
So, did 'we' do 'a in depth investigation' or were you lying? Make a decision on this. One or the other is true.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein Unless it's Neil Lennon, right? Or maybe if they're one of the 'traitors' you talked about.......? The GAA dealt with those scum appropriately.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
@bapfontein Some people on opposing teams abused him. The GAA dealt with them and he came back and is playing now. He must like playing or he'd leave. Compare that to what Neil Lennon experienced from his own. You can't say "Their are no Protestant in the GAA/IRA full stop" because Ive given you the names of some easily verifiable individuals.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein I never claimed any specific amount of Protestants play. I said some do, and I can claim this because I know some of them and have given you examples you can check for yourself.
Are you ever going to say who 'we' are who carried out 'a in depth investigation' ? as you claimed? Or why you used those words if there was no 'we' and no 'in depth investigation.'?
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein He's not the only one, as Ive opinted out, he's back playing again, as I've pointed out, and the treatment Neil Lennon got was even worse and went unpunished, as Ive pointed out.
As for conspiracy theories, all Im doing is asking questions based on your words, whcih were......
ZZKe7 1 year ago
@bapfontein ""Their are 10 GAA clubs within a 5 mile radius where I live , we have recently done a in depth check , to see how many self respecting member or even badly misguided members of the Protestant community are members, play , or in anyway involved in the GAA clubs"
If there is no 'we' then why did you use that word? If there was no in depth check, why did you use that phrase?
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein Go to a bookshop, select Keith Duggan's 'The Lifelong Season' and look up Lucan Sarsfields. A number of the kids mentioned are now playing to a very high level, bhy the way.
Fyi, Catholics are banned from the Orange Order, so they wont be joining.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein You still deny the existence of the others Ive named, and anyway, my questions related to the specific terms you chose to use. Ill put my quesions in captials and number them so you can answer......
1) IF THERE IS NO 'WE' WHY DID YOU CHOOSE THAT WORD?
2) IF 'WE' DID NOT 'DO A IN DEPTH INVESTIGATION' THEN WHY DID YOU USE THAT PHRASE?
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein I didn't ask that, I asked 1) IF THERE IS NO 'WE' WHY DID YOU CHOOSE THAT WORD?
2) IF 'WE' DID NOT 'DO A IN DEPTH INVESTIGATION' THEN WHY DID YOU USE THAT PHRASE
and youre ignoring, as usual, the fact that he's back playing now.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
@bapfontein you're a fool. . . . .
123RUTH123 1 year ago
@bapfontein I'll even do you a favour, Ill answer questions you asked OTHER people. Displaying a homophobia we can add to your bigotry and racism, you asked "mrmoniker......under 12 Paddyball team ismade up of Muslims, Hindus, migets , queers etc. .....Name the GAA club that you belong to so anyone , who is not Irish Catholic can go along and join in the GAA Ugly Games. Now , put up or shut up , name that team. "
ZZKe7 1 year ago
@bapfontein a few days ago you were saying it was his own team. Changing your facts again.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein I dont need do go into depth cos I know some personally. YOU claimed 'WE DID A IN DEPTH INVESTIGATION" I challenge you to answer my very simple questions about it this in depth investigation. I don't know how many are in each club cos I don't hunt them down like you claim to. I know my own teammates, one or two people on neighbouring teams, and the famous ones.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein Like Ive told you six or seven times, I know lads on my own team who are Protestant. You said there are none, Ive told you I know some personally, AND given you the names of some prominent ones.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein ah but you said you did do an in depth investigation, in fact you said 'we' did in relation to ten specific clubs. Ive already commented several times on the Darren Graham business, and pointed out that he is back playing, so it must have been resolved to his satisfaction. Now, are you going to answer my very reasonable questions, which are entirely based on your own words?
ZZKe7 1 year ago
@bapfontein Are you ever going to identify who 'we' are? Or why you used the word 'we'? or why you used the phrase 'in depth investigation'? or why you said it was easy to get the membership lists of ten specific clubs? Im only questioning you on your words.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
@bapfontein It's just a song. and they scrapped it. And I never once heard it. Been going to matches since 1987. Who's 'we'?
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein never heard that song, and if there were formal links they wouldnt be scrapping it would they? The artane boys band plays many, may songs. now, do I have to paste your words again? "Their are 10 GAA clubs within a 5 mile radius where I live , we have recently done a in depth check , to see how many self respecting member or even badly misguided members of the Protestant community are members, play , or in anyway involved in the GAA clubs. " You know the questions by now.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
@bapfontein So come one, who is 'we'? And you never did say what you thought of banners commemorating the Shankill Butchers. Any thoughts?
ZZKe7 1 year ago
@bapfontein Oh, and Im still waiting to hear what 'we' have planned for the 'traitors.' Along with an explanation of how you got the complete membership lists of ten clubs.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
@bapfontein The GAA offers the world the same thing as most sporting organisations - sport. And the games are played in more countries than, say, American Football or baseball, not that that matters at all.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein Well it can only be indigenous to one place. That's what indigenous means. And why can't I name American and Australia? Type 'Hurling America' into the search bar, then 'East Haven Gaelic football.' They've got GAA clubsall over the US and Australia. There's a huge hurling club in Buenos Aires, I've a cousin playing football in China, Europe is riddled with GAA clubs. And I've heard there's a part of the UK where GAA is very popular......
ZZKe7 1 year ago
@bapfontein Black ass Obama? Well, that's the level of conversation Id expect from someone who thinks there's 20 billion people in the world. So you're racist as well as sectarian? Nice.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein again linking Nationalism and Catholocism? Sigh. Wolfe Tone, Robert Emmett, Charles Stewart Parnell, Henry Joy McCracken....
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein Oh, so now you think they DO want Protestants to join? You've changed your stance completely. Now, who's "we"? Who is the group you are a member of that tries to identify 'traitors' (your word) who join the GAA? You're the one who brought it up so don't ignore it now.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
@bapfontein You're not really making any point there. And GAA attendance figures are perfectly healthy. Feel free to tune into any of the big games this summer and see for yourself. More people will be at both All-Irelands than the world cup final. The GAA has a million members, almost one in every five people in the country.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein 3.6 million? That would mean the entire population of the Republic attended. But then again, you did think there was 20 Billion + people in the world.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein Im in dispute with your figures. 20 billion? When you said 'world' you were referring to Earth, right? The GAA has a million members. That's plenty. They dont need any big recruitment drives in Ireland. Rugby dreams of that level of participation.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein what? this makes no sense. I think your asking what Im disputing. Firstly, the existence of 20 billion humans. Secondly, institutionalised anti-Protestant discrimination in the GAA. I also take issue with your derogatory terms for Catholics and Blacks, your made up 'facts', and your one sided view of sectarianism in general in northern society. (Its ok for the IFA or Orange Order to do it....)
ZZKe7 1 year ago
@bapfontein Yeah numbers were down.........cos the teams that qualified represented areas with much smaller populations than previous years. They have 1,000,000 fee paying members for God's sake. They're doing fine.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein Yeah and Whitnell, Graham and McSherry. They don't exist to you? It's Boothman, by the way, no Botham. So how many do I have to name?
And are you admitting you were wrong about the ban on playing rugby? your claims about mandatory blessings? I take it by your silence you are.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein Nope, thats just the ones off the top of my head, and I think the son of a UDR man counts as a Protestant. Maybe you have different ideas of what makes a 'pure blood' Protestant.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein Oh, from not knowing he existed now you know his mother's religion? He's a protestant himself, but if it were true his mother wasn't, that would mean he's not pure blood enough for you, right? You're still ignoring Peter Whitnell, which is convenient for you.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
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bapfontein 1 year ago
@bapfontein Darren Graham was happy enough with the response he got at all levels to come back and play. Young Catholics feel so unwanted by the Northern soccer community that they're queuing up to declare for the Republic. Driven out by bigots like you, who consider Darren Graham a 'misguided traitor.' Now, who's 'we'?
Who's the group that you are a part of that obtained membership lists of ten clubs to look for Protestant traitors? well?
ZZKe7 1 year ago
@bapfontein Oh, and I have no hesitation in describing the people who did abuse Darren Graham as bigotted scumbags. Like you.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
@bapfontein Erm I think the GAA response did the trick. He's back playing for his club now. Only stopped for about a month. Compare that to the IFA response to bigotry in soccer. Billy Bingham conducts the choir singing 'Greysteel, trick or treat' - silence. Derry hounded out of the league - silence. Neil lennon recieves death threats so credible he's forced to leave the game - silence. Massed ranks of scumbags in Windsor park chant 'we've got a provo on out team' - silence.
ZZKe7 1 year ago
r u serious..people are amazed by that?
batterybuster 1 year ago
live 20 mins away from that 'Darren' guy and played against him. you dont know what the guy was like and how much of a gypsy he was..your ignorrance is forgivable however, he was portrayed as an angel but anything he got was less than what he deserved. he assaulted three players in that match alone. just so you know.
cnrmuli 2 years ago
p2 well over a year now..its people like you that cause irritation and disturbance..who make the irish crave for freedom and really want you to get the fuck out.
cnrmuli 2 years ago
here "bapfontein" if you would have stayed away there would have been no trouble for you. am not a ra man im a gaa man.have had nothin to do with the ra and take offense to your prejudice remarks..just because your daddy has told you how bad the catholics were when really you lot were shootin us on the streets and terrorising innocent people when hidden behind your big guns.. causing fear and hassel during everyday life..before you start, ive been going with a protestant girl from england for p1
cnrmuli 2 years ago
GAA is an ALL INCLUSIVE game which welcomes all creeds and religions.
I'm a protestant and play it and have never been anything but welcomed by my club mates. Some of my protestant mates also play and have no negative experiences...... so please get your facts straight before saying GAA is catholic only.
eire32freedom 2 years ago
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bapfontein 2 years ago
if you think this is good type in "Keith Earl's that try" even better
TheRealFatShiney 2 years ago
"The GAA is a Catholic only sport. "
your so wrong
plarkin547 2 years ago 2
Whats the point of bending down to get it when you can do that :P
0fficialsite 2 years ago
marty bah, chase sheep with ya anytime! haha 54 up the park!
JONOCALDWELL 2 years ago
hahahah no need to bend over and pick it up
lloydyz1 2 years ago
its piss easy to do if you play GAA
weezerpleaser18 2 years ago 3
ur cool fitz1333
plarkin547 2 years ago
ur cool to plarkin.
fitz1333 2 years ago
here
fitz1333
i play gaelic football for both my club and county..i went down 2 the trials in dublin..The afl recruitin camps..So possily i think i know how 2 flick the ball off the ground.
Am not being cheeky and am glad 2 see marty playing well down under, I was a sub the time he played aginst derry in the football.
Hope he does well..
plarkin547 2 years ago
cool.
fitz1333 2 years ago
thats not a alien egg its a fucking footy you dont no cozz you fucking play wag ball all ya life
kockhead11 2 years ago
here - thats not too shabby for a gaa player - pickin up an alien egg
cjon80 3 years ago
fuck u cjon go back to wogball ya poof
fitz1333 2 years ago
i take it by wogball you mean soccer - i play gaelic football (gaa) you numpty - same as martin clarke did in ireland - you know.. the team that beat the best of AFL last year... egg ball would have been 'alien' to him so its even more impressive.. read between the fuckin lines - anything else i need to explain to yis?
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bapfontein 2 years ago
Mate your a fucking idiot how about when your 19 or were imagining moving to a the other side of the world where you dont know anyone. Man new draft people get home sick from another state like Brad Daizell its only another state not around the world you fucking idiot, its a common thing and he is still very young. How can you bag out Gaelic Football when our sport is based from that you dumb cunt!
yummyboy226 2 years ago
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bapfontein 2 years ago
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bapfontein 2 years ago
hardly if the greatest and most decorated gaelic football player of all-time (pat spillane) was a protestant.........dumb ass!!
weluvarsenal 2 years ago
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bapfontein 2 years ago
your a clueless f**ker, no club or county would deny some1 a place on their squad because of religion, race or cultural diversity. open your eyes, times are changing.
weluvarsenal 2 years ago
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bapfontein 2 years ago
Darren Graham? Sam Maguire??
ZZKe7 2 years ago
Adn while Im at it.... the PSNI team? The Combined Services team that came down to the Curragh to play the Irish Army? The London Met team? How many do you want me to name?
ZZKe7 2 years ago
The IRA have disbanded.. done their job.. Get over it. move with the times you loser like both sides in Northern Ireland are trying to do.
Your ill-informed tripe is laughed at by most on here.. you baldy little fat bastard
neilhosey 2 years ago
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bapfontein 2 years ago
HAHA... i havent looked at these videos in id say 6 months and you are still here shiting on about the IRA and the GAA... what a sad sad little life you must live that so much of your time is dedicated to this.. LOL .... you can continue on with your bullshit, i just need to remind myself sometimes that you are a know nothing secrarian peace of scum who copy/pastes the same bullshit over and over again.
neilhosey 2 years ago
Protestants are welcomed in the GAA.. just like any other religion. You clearly have a thing with catholicism with all the warped bullshit you write. Whereas the me, and 99.9999% of other irish ppl dont care what religion someone is. The troubles are over.. you are still leading a sad little life and tbh i feel sorry for you :D
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bapfontein 2 years ago
you really are a loser
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