Jan Ekier edited the ETUDES in 2000, for the National Edition of the Works of Fryderyk Chopin, Polish Chopin Institute.
He presents the text I play in mm. 30 and 34 as the most reliable, after analysis of two Chopin autograph copies, one in Pierpont Morgan Library, New York, and the other in the F. Chopin Society in Warsaw.
He discusses all the variants in his source commentary, which I encourage anyone interested in this matter to read.
I will take up the "wrong notes" issue one more time, in a later post. About tempo, most people simply ignore Chopin's metronome indication of "8th-note = 100" for this etude. No one plays it that fast, but no one has the license to play it too slow. Incidentally, most people that play it too slow try very hard to match Chopin's metronome markings in the fast etudes. One wonders...
This is an old issue already, the Paderewski is the OLD Complete Works Edition. Check the NEW Complete Works Edition (Chopin Institute Warsaw), you will find this variant in there. This is, incidentally, the edition now recommended in the Warsaw International Chopin Competition...
Yeah, i heard two wrong notes. At 1.44, the repeat of the first bar of that phrase is supposed to be natural, as is the repeat in the D# minor phrase that is after. I checked both editions. They are exactly the same. But anyways, apart from that, this is perfect and I say very good job!!
Just go to imslp . org, and do a search for Op. 10 Etudes. The edition I used here, however, is only available in print (National Edition, Jan Ekier ed.). Enjoy!
he is formidable! in first time, he maked me feel in the heaven! this is my favourite, favourite song! is a beautiful melody! and he is fantastic, he plays maginific the piano, I love it!
As was earlier commented, this is the text of the latest edition of the complete works of Chopin. Those are the correct notes according to that edition.
We don't give a crap about his mistakes because to us, the public, it still sounded wonderful. Overly critical people like you should die. Keep your fancy-pancy technical crap to yourself and your colleagues.
I'd like to note, though, that it's not that I don't like the musician's playing, I think he is absolutely splendid. I just cant imagine why chopin would put such a chaotic string of notes in such a solemn sounding piece. For me, it depreciates the mood of the of the piece.
I love this piece, but for some reason I feel like 2:00-2:35 is just way out of the overall tone, and I just feel like I would cut that part out, because it ruins the entire song for me. However, I know this would be a very insensitive course of action.
i'd just like to note as well that it is not the musician's playing that bothers me, I think he is absolutely splendid.. it's just the song itself, I'm not sure why chopin would put such a chaotic string of music in such a solemn piece
but without the B section as it is, the piece would be SOO shallow! I guess if I wanted to cut it from the piece for any reason it would be because it's wicked difficult. ;)
A beutiful performance. I do not think it is too structured, it flowed wonderfully. The masculine expression in this performance was evident and added a pleasing dimension
Totally Agreed. Way too structured!! Nice Performance overall but please recheck the middle part, this must be very rhythm-challenging, with very frequent Cres/Decrescendo mouvements. Well done though, i'm admirative.
I just heard the middle part.. you play it TOO STRUCTURED... He keeps the chords very similar... you must be in hypnosis and go to a higher plane.. less formal.
at 1:42 it should be minor not major. and there aren't any different versions, even if that was the case, no one should change the NOTES chopin wrote, they just won't be better. but nice work overall :)
this is the edition recommended for the chopin warsaw competition, and THESE ARE Chopin's notes, the 19th century editors just thought they knew better...
Hmmm Poorly played overall. You need to check some of the notes on the second page as was already said. There was an extremely obvious mistake where you played a major 3rd in place of a minor 3rd, along with a few other glithches. It also sounded quite rushed at places, and i noticed that you have completely ignored several ralls. On a posotive tho, your melodic line was reasonably well voiced and it seemed technically quite stable.
the edition is the latest from the polish chopin institute, and indeed has different notes than the ones we're used to... could you precise what you don't like on it? thanks
I love it and he does a fine job. I am 67 years old and this has been one of my favorites.
I could listen to him play this for me many times over. Well done my friend!!!!!!!
grecomarlene 1 month ago
There is nothing wrong! Ekier's edition is the most accurate and this is played correctly!
georgiboykin 7 months ago
"WRONG NOTES ON MM. 30 and 34"!!!!!!!
Here we go:
Jan Ekier edited the ETUDES in 2000, for the National Edition of the Works of Fryderyk Chopin, Polish Chopin Institute.
He presents the text I play in mm. 30 and 34 as the most reliable, after analysis of two Chopin autograph copies, one in Pierpont Morgan Library, New York, and the other in the F. Chopin Society in Warsaw.
He discusses all the variants in his source commentary, which I encourage anyone interested in this matter to read.
campinho 1 year ago
I will take up the "wrong notes" issue one more time, in a later post. About tempo, most people simply ignore Chopin's metronome indication of "8th-note = 100" for this etude. No one plays it that fast, but no one has the license to play it too slow. Incidentally, most people that play it too slow try very hard to match Chopin's metronome markings in the fast etudes. One wonders...
campinho 1 year ago
I have 2 different printed versions for this part, the one played here sounds weird, not Chopin, so I suppose is a transcription error.
estebanpolo 1 year ago
bar 31 and 35 are wrong! i have the paderewski edition and what he plays and what is printed are two differant things!!
theres a nother bar that was messed up too at 40- 41.
two much of the inner voice.
the melody didnt sing like it should.
klavierspielerin83 2 years ago
Ah.... but what notes.
careygranite 2 years ago
you are WRONG, in the middle part, you have two wrong notes, maybe is your edition, i am sure the Paderewski Edition is the best for chopin
fabrE30 2 years ago
This is an old issue already, the Paderewski is the OLD Complete Works Edition. Check the NEW Complete Works Edition (Chopin Institute Warsaw), you will find this variant in there. This is, incidentally, the edition now recommended in the Warsaw International Chopin Competition...
campinho 2 years ago
Yeah, i heard two wrong notes. At 1.44, the repeat of the first bar of that phrase is supposed to be natural, as is the repeat in the D# minor phrase that is after. I checked both editions. They are exactly the same. But anyways, apart from that, this is perfect and I say very good job!!
calum6371 2 years ago
Stunning!!!
mesmericed 2 years ago
Lindo!!! Beautiful!
xSaraPacox 2 years ago
''Can anyone who has heard this music, i mena truly heard it. Realy be a bad person?''
Rocky75555 3 years ago 2
can anyone share the music notes?
helenajunjieluo 3 years ago
Just go to imslp . org, and do a search for Op. 10 Etudes. The edition I used here, however, is only available in print (National Edition, Jan Ekier ed.). Enjoy!
campinho 3 years ago
What kind of piano is this?
cheerios10294 3 years ago
Yamaha C7
campinho 3 years ago
Where was is recorded, I want to play there!
jnich88ivories 3 years ago
he is formidable! in first time, he maked me feel in the heaven! this is my favourite, favourite song! is a beautiful melody! and he is fantastic, he plays maginific the piano, I love it!
sujimsusana 3 years ago
The only thing that I can't understand is how amazingly well he is playing...;) I absolutely love it!!
aalmeida20 3 years ago
At 1:39 and 1:49 he maked big mistakes!
Can't understand making such mistakes.
Lollikid 4 years ago
As was earlier commented, this is the text of the latest edition of the complete works of Chopin. Those are the correct notes according to that edition.
campinho 4 years ago
We don't give a crap about his mistakes because to us, the public, it still sounded wonderful. Overly critical people like you should die. Keep your fancy-pancy technical crap to yourself and your colleagues.
fire1202 4 years ago 7
It was just a different version of the piece, that's why he thought they were mistakes. The faulty criticism was cleared up... chill.
To Campinho: well done.
turtlex 4 years ago
Wow
tamsp14 4 years ago
Ausgezeichnet!
reconphil 4 years ago
This is a wonderfully creative combination of pieces. It is beautifully executed and brings "No Other Love" to its true perfection.
apricotpoodledotcom 4 years ago
I'd like to note, though, that it's not that I don't like the musician's playing, I think he is absolutely splendid. I just cant imagine why chopin would put such a chaotic string of notes in such a solemn sounding piece. For me, it depreciates the mood of the of the piece.
Wingzero12346 4 years ago
I love this piece, but for some reason I feel like 2:00-2:35 is just way out of the overall tone, and I just feel like I would cut that part out, because it ruins the entire song for me. However, I know this would be a very insensitive course of action.
Wingzero12346 4 years ago
i'd just like to note as well that it is not the musician's playing that bothers me, I think he is absolutely splendid.. it's just the song itself, I'm not sure why chopin would put such a chaotic string of music in such a solemn piece
Wingzero12346 4 years ago
but without the B section as it is, the piece would be SOO shallow! I guess if I wanted to cut it from the piece for any reason it would be because it's wicked difficult. ;)
retrogamerdave 4 years ago
This piece is marvelous. It is thought evoking and emotional. This performance was wonderful as well.
ThisWasForNaught 4 years ago
I love the quzi
kundeyaya 4 years ago
Perhaps my favorite piece of classical music.
Kntrabssi 4 years ago
A beutiful performance. I do not think it is too structured, it flowed wonderfully. The masculine expression in this performance was evident and added a pleasing dimension
profdrdick 4 years ago
excellent playin =D
Sn0wflak3sz 4 years ago
Bravo!
pianogirl98 4 years ago
Your feel for the most part is lovely, but if you slowed up on the very end on certain parts, for emphasis, it would be even more beautiful.
mimibyrd 4 years ago
awesome! one of my favourite etude!
pianoben89 4 years ago
Totally Agreed. Way too structured!! Nice Performance overall but please recheck the middle part, this must be very rhythm-challenging, with very frequent Cres/Decrescendo mouvements. Well done though, i'm admirative.
Goshinryuu 4 years ago
I just heard the middle part.. you play it TOO STRUCTURED... He keeps the chords very similar... you must be in hypnosis and go to a higher plane.. less formal.
acortot 4 years ago
Very good!
I want one of these editions!!
acortot 4 years ago
Oooh! I love this etude from Chopin.. You inspired me and i'm going to play it now!! Nicely done..
Claesya 4 years ago
farah73 is rigth, and that is so beautyful i like pretty much with minor, but very nice work thank you.
arimacun 4 years ago
at 1:42 it should be minor not major. and there aren't any different versions, even if that was the case, no one should change the NOTES chopin wrote, they just won't be better. but nice work overall :)
farah73 4 years ago
this is the edition recommended for the chopin warsaw competition, and THESE ARE Chopin's notes, the 19th century editors just thought they knew better...
campinho 4 years ago
overall, good job... just fix some notes.
kebobo 4 years ago
Hmmm Poorly played overall. You need to check some of the notes on the second page as was already said. There was an extremely obvious mistake where you played a major 3rd in place of a minor 3rd, along with a few other glithches. It also sounded quite rushed at places, and i noticed that you have completely ignored several ralls. On a posotive tho, your melodic line was reasonably well voiced and it seemed technically quite stable.
spacegoat005 5 years ago
he must have a different version, because some of the notes sound different on the second page, i also didn't like it very much, lol
ytfarmer90 5 years ago
the edition is the latest from the polish chopin institute, and indeed has different notes than the ones we're used to... could you precise what you don't like on it? thanks
campinho 5 years ago
WOW! I have been looking so long for this etude because this is my favorite work of Chopin. You don't disappoint!
dbbfuentes 5 years ago