I do not believe in the trinity or that the Holy Ghost is some other god of a trinity. I do not believe Jesus is God but I believe he is the son of God and the Father alone is God Jehovah.
Now this video is crap pure crap, the Holy Ghost is not an angle, it is the spirit of the Father, it is his spirit not some other being.
Christians are so stupid and illogical by saying they don't worship and believe in 3 Gods but 1 God manifested as 3 persons? Do they speak and understand english?
They say the Father is God, The Son is God and the Holy Spirit is God but they're not 3 Gods but ONE GOD haaaaaaaahahahahaha how ILLOGICAL and FALSE
Its like saying that Joe is God, Tim is God and Lee is God but they're not 3 Gods but ONE GOD haaaaaaahahaaha you get it now Christianity is a FALSE religion and believes in a FALSE God.
the sun is one.... but gives 3 energies... light , heat and radiation...
obviously you are trying to use human logic which is so limited .... to understand God's logic... can pour a jug of water .. all of it in a cup? ... no... only a part of it...that's our mind small and limited.....
contd...from a chapter of any book and saying that this is what the entire book is based on. I'm sure the same thing can be done with scriptures from any faith and say that one passage sums it all up completely. As has been said before...pretty lame attempt. Too much time on your hands..why not use the time God has given you to do something useful and purposeful. Peace and love.
What a shame. We are ALL God's children. As others have said not ALL Christians believe in the 'holy trinity' as being one. There is God, His son Jesus, who after being baptized was filled with a second baptizm of fire...the Holy Ghost (Spirit). They are ALL part of the Godhead but they are 3 separate entities with separate purposes. Many christians use the method you have used here to discredit the beliefs of others by quoting ONE verse to try to prove a point. that's like taking one sentence
@mlamry01 if you are going to try and discredit the bible at least read the whole chapter before you post a video on here and make an idiot of yourself. Not all christians believe in the trinity but we all agree Gabriel and The Holy Spirit are not one and the same since Gabriel is clearly identified as an angel who delivers the 'good news' to Mary.
Disprove the 100s of people I have seen healed. Tumors falling off, HIV/AIDS gone, joints growing, backs fixed. Disprove the 1000s of personal prophecies I have seen come true. I could go on and on.
But God bless and I pray you are lead to the father one day.
Luke 1:35 "And the angel answered and said unto her, The holy Ghost shall come unto thee and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy things shall be born of thee and shall be called the Son of God.
Still debating on 2000 years old book which have 1000 of version and one goes against another. Ok fine, before put faith on anything research all fine. If u dont want to see the truth than live as frog in pond.
@Coolguysaj I think its been 50-60yrs you have not read or bought a Bible. 90% of the world has not been using the KJV.
The current Bible does not have this text.
The text you mentioned was unceremoniously thrown out of the Bible by 32 scholars backed by 50 denominations as "interpolation" and "concoctions" and considered to be a footnote by someone which crept into original text while printing
Then church had to "force" Revised to suit missionaries
I am a christian, I know that there is no trinity, The father son and holy ghost, Are 3 attributes of 1 person, His name is Jesus, And he said, If you don't believe that I am he, you will die in your sins.
I couldn't help notice where you used pagan and christian together. they are two very different things. I believe in the trinity and no where in the bible says that we are suppose to worship the holy spirit. The only one we worship is the creator Jehova or YHWH in hebrew. I don;t know what kind of christians be worshiping the holy spirit lol.
MY FRIEND YOU REPRESENT THE POWER OF THE ANTICHRIST [THE DECEIVER].READ YOUR BIBLE PROPERLY THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD, HE DWELLS IN US,JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER IS GOD.IN SHORT WHAT AM TRYING TO SAY IS THAT THE FATHER = JESUS CHRIST [THE SON] = THE HOLY SPIRIT.IT THE SAME DEITY [GOD].I DONT BELIEVE IN TRINITY AND THE BIBLE DOES NOT DIRECTLY MENTION TRINITY.GOD IS ONE.
MY FRIEND YOU REPRESENT THE POWER OF THE ANTICHRIST [THE DECEIVER].READ YOUR BIBLE PROPERLY THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD, HE DWELLS IN US,JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER IS GOD.IN SHORT WHAT AM TRYING TO SAY IS THAT THE FATHER = JESUS CHRIST [THE SON] = THE HOLY SPIRIT.IT THE SAME DEITY [GOD].I DONT BELIEVE IN TRINITY AND THE BIBLE DOES NOT DIRECTLY MENTION TRINITY.GOD IS ONE.
In the Gospel of John 17:3 says Jesus' conversation with God: "And this is eternal life: to know thee the only true God, and him whom thou hast sent, Jesus Christ.
@m3talizkewld00d Here is a verse about Christ telling us to pray to him. John 14:14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.. You forgot to mention this huh? :D
Both muslims and christains are equally deceived, you retards are about to cause WW3 with no regard for the rest of us who just want to live our lives without religious dictatorship. I dont need religion to love and serve God.What I need is for all the idiots to quit asserting something of which they only have limited understanding.
Hey, you guys know what the goofiest thing is? You're arguing about things that intelligent folks find highly laughable....a virgin....birthing a child. If god is the creator of all things, presuming he created himself once already why the need to even use humans? He simply could have manifested, no? Its just another example of religions attempt to demonize the natural process of biology and behavior. How dare god be conceived in a traditional act of reproduction. Why choose stupidity?
LOLOLO pathetic Who ever Made this Video forgot that Muslims Believe The Holly Spirit is Gabriel then they said JESUS spoke about the Holly Spirit that was coming to be Muhammad so Who is it Gabriel or Mohammad?
God is playing with His Mother Vagina, He was the Father (cause of marys impregnated), and he was the son. GOD GETTING BIRTH TO HIMSELF. He was the father as well as the son?. Christianity are getting so confusing. Long ago, they preached you Trinity. Now They Themself Dont believed in it. I Dont know what will happens in the future, say 100 yrs. from now. What will be their God Concepts?. I will not be surprise if in the Future, They will be Worshipping "Siva", "Krishna" and "Buddha" too.
It's almost cute when Muslims try to disprove Christianity. Luke 1:35 "And the angel (Gabriel) answered and said unto her, The HOLY GHOST shall came upon thee, and the POWER of the HIGHEST shall overshadow thee." (Thank you to evozro for providing the verse.) If anything, you have actually BUILT a case for the trinity.
This was a lame atempt to "Destroy Christianity" I don't beleive in the trinity, but you need to read the whole passage in Luke and you will see that the Holy Ghost caused the conception in Mary. Gabriel DOES NOT = Holy Ghost. Luke 1:35 And the angel (Gabriel) answered and said unto her, The HOLY GHOST shall came upon thee, and the POWER of the HIGHEST shall overshadow thee: therefore also that Holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the SON OF GOD. Gabriel was just a messenger.
wow thats really very interesting statement , wich version of the bible is this ? and how is that your bible has being change modified and corrupted taking books in and out and changing passages to the Christians convenience again and again making things so confused that y our own people cant even understand it any more.....come on no offense but your book called the bible is like the us constitution change modified corrupted and the worst part confusing
@qbanpride4eve.If the Bible has been changed so many times that christians cant understand it then you can easily provide at least 10 differences Can you?islam has 70sects ,although Koran is a simple book that tells you how to dress how to argue with your wife who to have friends.Bible is a book of spirituality Is more than a book of moral codes,Official disagreements,are very subtle things which Koran does not include at all.
And I could spare all the above saying It should be read in HELLENISETIC ,same as muslims claim the koran should be read only in Arabic in order to be really understood,bcoz in english it looses its exact meaning.But in reality there are some v.good translations
The trinity is a false doctrine period now to be fair Islam is a false religion and I tell you why . First Muslims follow the teachings of Moses but when the Creator said his name to Moses he said I am that I am but if you read further you see YHWH but your bible will say LORD but we know the name is YHWH so where did Muhammed get Allah from he get Gabriels name right but not the Creators something is wrong here . And YHWH is pronounced YaHuWaH that is our heavenly fathers name research it
@arcjahad hey friend jus some food for thought ,arabic and hebrew share alot of words as a they are both connected to aramaic.the word Elohim ,Eloha and Allah are the same meaning ,god bless
Bible destroys Koran- Koran states that Jesus did not die on the cross (surah 4:157), this is the one undisputed fact that we know about Jesus- the Koran is wrong
There are enough people here already. Some with very good information and some who don't have a very good understanding. I will simply say that your presentation was not convincing in the least and shows a gross misunderstanding on your part. I urge you to learn more by reading the four gospels again before attempting to post conversion videos.
Sorry, it out of context, and beside Jesus said I am which a name of God in Judaism. He said he was God, so if Jesus says he has Father. He has to have Father. Both our idea can not be true you are right.
You blatantly ignore the rest of the chapter in Luke. In verse 1:35 Gabriel talks about the Holy Spirit coming over Marry to have her conceive child. So if the Holy Spirit is Gabriel then why is He talking about Himself in 3rd person? Why does Gabriel have the power to create a child in Marry? Only God has the power to create. In verse 1:15 Gabriel says the Holy Spirit will fill John the Baptist. Does this mean Gabriel will posses John? Are you ignoring these verses (facts) to push your view?
@HagarTheHorribleOne No, The Bible says Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit. He had already existed as God and is mentioned in the Old Testament ~ Proverbs 30:4, Isaiah 48:16, Isaiah 61:1, Daniel 7:13, etc. The old testament speaks of 3 distinct persons of Yahweh who are all fully God ~ Yahweh the Father - Exodus 4:22-23, Messenger of Yahweh - Exodus 3:1-17, and the Spirit of Yahweh - 2 Samuel 23:2-3.
@MAJ061785 I was quoting you when I said that not the bible. If GOD the father is Spirit the what is the purpose of the Holy Spirit? If the burning bush was Jesus why did he not identify him self as the son of man? Why did Jesus, who was the messenger from GOD, say clearly "I am GOD in the flesh who came to die for your sins"
@HagarTheHorribleOne God is beyond a spirit. He's a multidimensional omnipresent being. His multidimensional quality is revealed in the universe as multi-person since our universe doesnt have the math to support multidimensionalism. If God was just a spirit He would be on the same level as the angels. The Holy Spirit is a way in which God reveals His omnipresent quality. Jesus revealed Himself to Moses by calling Himself "I AM. " Then in John 8:58 Jesus called himself "I AM" to reveal who he was
@adistantgeneration Feminine? Masculine? There you go again putting God in little humanoid boxes and confining him so he becomes easier to understand and digest. This constant and prepetual anthropomorhizing of God does him a great disservice. God reveals to us his traits i.e. the characteristics that motivate his actions and NOT his perfect devine nature, because that would be beyond our comprehension. We should all have the humility to at least admit that.
That would have to be the worst exercise of exegesis I've ever seen. But I suppose you can't expect much else from someone who calls a book like the Quran 'holy' now can you.
"How will this be," Mary asked the angel, "since I am a virgin?" The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.
Gabriel does not say she will bear child from him, but by the power of God through the Holy Spirit.. this video is just goofy
The Shema has three names of God with three parts with the Rabbis pray with three fingers making Hebrew character. Second principle of Judaism is God of unity.
Four dimensional object is one which we do not understand. check out jewsofjesus
All these comments make little sense, many of you lack faith and hope, which is the foundation of any religion. Faith and hope; now think hard where you fit in this world, your here to produce some good or here to take and use. Which one are you?
Satan is your Enemy not Islam not Mohammed but it s your problem because the Trinity is infected from Satan and cannot free themselves from Satan the ugly
@MagikarpPower You don t know in your Bible about that Satan want to overtake the World and that is only Allah God the Ruler because you don t know that Satan will be punished on Judgement Day for all KillerKills who have happened from all Times forever! maybe you believe the other Dirt Shit they Talk about Islam Mohammed Allah
@MagikarpPower YES FOR YOUR JESUS OH GOD WHY HAVE YOU LEFT ME ALONE AND ALL AND EVERYTHING IS LEAVED FROM GOD LIKE JESUS RIGHT ? OK FUCK YOU AND FUCK JESUS AND FUCK THE BIBLE AND FUCK THE CHRISTIAN TRINITY AND FUCK MARY TOOOOO AND YOU TOO AGAIN YES ONLY SATAN THINK LOOK AND TALK FOR YOU FUCK YOU SATAN MAGICKARP
@MagikarpPower I don t make a Point it s the Satan who have maded a Point and that all the People of the World are innocent damned from him and only the strong believers come through his wickedness and don t let themselve to Slave from him that is the reason why Allah send Prophet Mohammed As Selam and his Quran
@AZRAELMO like all religions, Islam is garbage. Jesus, Allah, Satan, God, Thor, Apollo, etc., do not exist. Keep believing that you're a "strong believer" when really you're just terribly irrational.
Do not forget that I John 5:7 was added to fit trinity doctrine and other verses too.
Just one God and he left his glory to be among people.
Everything Jesus spoke in parables, but explained everything to his disciples in private.
he said, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of God, but for others they are in PARABLES, so that ‘seeing they may not SEE, and hearing they may not UNDERSTAND.
"You worship the Holy Ghost yet no where in the Bible does it say to worship it(or Jesus(AS).)"John 4:24-"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."If God is a Spirit and God is Holy then that makes God...The Holy Spirit. This video is terrible I am disappointed.
Sorry friend, The angel Gabriel simply came to Mary to explain what would take place, the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit is God himself, not the angel, John 4:24. It was the Spirit of God that overshadowed Mary, not a third person of a false trinity..
very good try but u didn't read very good this was gabriel talking to Mary yes but what does he say in verse luke 1:35 here it says the Holy Ghost shall come upon thee
so at that time in Luke Gabriel was just telling mary what was going to happen
if ur gonna quote the bible plz read the whole context
The more you read the bible, e more u will see Jesus (pbuh) constantly referred himself as 'son of man' and he constantly glorified God in heaven. He make it very clear to the Israel..
"The most important one," answered Jesus, is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.
This video does not "destroy" the Trinity. Because 1.) Trinitarians too believe Jesus was born of flesh and blood, BUT existed eternally prior to His incarnation in the form of God, see John 1:1-14, and Philippians 2:1-7. And 2.) you didn't quote the passage of Luke in its entirety and ripped it from the surrounding context. So, what is it about this video that is supposed to "destroy" the Trinity? I see nothing here except an affirmation of it.
What is the purpose of adopting the trinity beliefe? Why would it matter to a trinitarian if I believed in the trinity? If I believe in Yahweh and his man son then where is the issue for them? Yet if you are wrong then you stand in oposition to God. For you are worshiping another. Do you know whom you worship? Find out where the trinity came from and you will learn it's not form the bible. The beast has many fallowing.....
@TheYAHnitarian Actually, I affirm that the Bible does support the Doctrine of Eternal Torment. I'm almost convinced that you are a Unitarian Universalist of some kind, considering, they too deny the Doctrine of the Trinity, as well as Hell, and argue that everybody, everywhere will eventually be saved. If you would like we can discuss this in depth.
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MANY MANY "Christians" don't believe in a trinity. The alternative to not believing in the trinity isnt being a muslim. Yeshua was not a trinitarian, He never said He was the Father, quite to the contrary. The Romans murdered anybody who followed Yeshua's true teachings (which was Torah & the Kingdom of YHWH) Any "Christian" with half a brain could research Torah & Ancient Hebrew & see that a TRUE Christian wouldn't believe in a triune God.
@TheYAHnitarian Actually, you foolishly assume that Trinitarians believe that Jesus is the Father when you stated, "Yeshua was not a trinitarian, He never said He was the Father."
Fact is... Trinitarians DO NOT believe Jesus is the Father, that is what is called SABELLIANISM, not Trinitarianism.
@TheYAHnitarian All you silly little people running around saying, "there is no Trinity," and half of you which claim to be "Christian," don't even have the slightest idea of what it actually states. Truly, if God has given you eyes to see, then you surely would have known this little bit of information.
@TheYAHnitarian As for this, "many many 'Christians' don't believe in a trinity" ordeal, this is simply untrue. In fact, all Christians believe in the Trinity, from Catholic, Orthodox (Greek, Syriac, Coptic, etc.), and Protestants. In fact, about the only two groups of heretics that don't believe in the Trinity are Oneness Pentecostals/Apostolic Oneness/Sabellians (they believe Jesus is the same Person as the Father), and Arians/Jehovah's Witnesses.
@TheYAHnitarian However, virtually every other denomination, whether it be Independent Baptist, Reformed Baptist, Southern Baptist, Anglican, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Pentecostal (not to be confused with Oneness Pentecostal), Methodist, Episcopalian, Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Syriac Orthodox, Coptic Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, Bulgarian Orthodox, Armenian Orthodox, Gregorian Orthodox -- and the 2,000+ other denominations -- believe in the Trinity.
@TheYAHnitarian What we DO believe is that there are three co-eternal and co-equal Persons whom are distinct from one another. The Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is not the Father, et al. These three Persons who have existed co-eternally are equal in terms of nature, that is, the Father is not more "divine" than the Son, they are equally God -- they possess the exact same measure of Deity than the other.
@TheYAHnitarian The Father, Son, and Spirit exist in total harmony with one another, the Son is not a "loose canon" off to do His own bidding, for the three Persons of the Trinity work together in unity (hence "Trinity," aka Tri-unity) in all things, and exist in unity of Essence, just as the universal Body of Christ, though it consists of many members, exists in unity within its very being.
@TheYAHnitarian Three Persons existing together in unity and harmony within the Divine Essence, just as truly born again believers exist together in unity within the Body of Christ. The Father, Son, and Spirit are One, just as a man and his wife are one (Genesis 2:24), in union -- One God.
@clintjordan can't believe you actually "explained" that to me. I know perfectly well what it's about, it's just incorrect. I don't know about you, but when I was married, my husband and I didn't become one being, we both had separate jobs, ideas, and bodies. The trinity is a pagan lie given to us by Rome. Yeshua spends His entire career saying the opposite. Man & wife become one as a UNIT. Their goals are supposed to be for the two of them, not just themselves.Yeshuas work was His Fathers.
Who ever made this Video Dint Read the Entire Chapter of Luke Read and you will see. And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God
Luke 1:35 . If Gabriel Was the Holly Ghost why dint he said I will come upong thee. Gabriel said The holly Ghost shall come upong thee. PEOPLE TEST THE SPIRITS TO SEE IF THEY ARE FROM GOD
There are many flaws to your so called claim that Christianity can be destroyed by that. The bible mentions the three in several places. Isaiah 48:16-17 for example.
Does that mean all Christians worship the 'Trinity'? No, it doesn't. Just like all muslims do not believe in strapping bombs to themselves and murdering children. But they use how they read their book to excuse it.
The Qur'an however approves of marrying children, relatives, allah got the trinity wrong, Lied about Jews, etc.
I AM A CHRISTIAN, AND I BELIEVE YOUR RIGHT! I DONT BELIEVE IN FATHER, SON AND HOLY GHOST. IT SAYS IN TEN COMANDMENTS NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME. I DONT PUT JESUS BEFORE GOD. AM I WRONG?
Wakey wakey people. There's a big wide world out there and it is the 21st century. Time for a reality check! Is Jesus God ... or isn't he? The answer is simple: Yes! - If you believe he is and NO! - if you believe he isn't.
Now, why don't you leave other people's beliefs alone and get a life. Afterall, this may be the only life you'll get. Just .... maybe!!!
if jesus was not the word then who created the world in genisis ???
and also in zecharia 12:10 god as i said before Quote"They will look on Me whom they have pierced,Yes they will morn for him as one morns of his only son
here we have god talkin about jesus and as well i could quote more places from the new testament were jesus says he was the creator and also could show how Abraham has met JESUS? but yes he has
I have a few scriptures for u zechariah chapter 12 verse 10 Now this is my understanding that God is speaking he says he was pierced??? i thought jesus was pierced when he was put to death by cross.
I would never just say 1 verse thats nonsence
John 1:1 my question is who is the Word??? Answer Philipians chapter 2 versus 6-8 tells u that it says there that someone has humbled himself to become a servant and to die at the cross/???? who is that
@chrisandstaci YAHWEH gave Moses the spoken & written Word, He didn't give Moses "JESUS". Yahweh's spoken & written Word was manifested in Moses flesh because Moses learned everything Yahweh taught him on Mount Sinai. Moses took the Word of Yahweh and delivered it to Israel. Yahweh's Word of the Ten Commandments dwelt among Israel inside the Ark of the Covenant.
Jesus is not Yahweh, but YAHWEH manifested His spoken &written Word in Jesus flesh the same as Moses. Yahweh's Word dwells in Bibles.
Yahweh's Word dwells amongst Hebrews & Gentiles. Jesus manifested Yahweh's spoken & written Word of the Torah & Tanakh in his heart & mind. Yahweh gave the Word of Truth to Jesus. Jesus took the spoken & written Word of Yahweh's Truth, and delivered IT to the unrighteous, that they may gain Eternal life by repenting of their sins. YAHWEH did Not manifest Himself in the flesh of a MAN, He simple gives us His spoken & written Word to manifest in our flesh. His Word dwells in our minds Forever.
We know Christ said many times that he and the Father were ONE. Mathew states that Mary was impregnated by the Holy Spirit--not the Father. And then later we find the Father saying from Heaven in Luke 3 "You are my Son...". Therefore since God considered Jesus his son and the son was impregnated by the Holy Spirit, then God and the Holy Spirit must also be ONE. Trinty--simple deductive reasoning.
The Quran or Hadiths Never explicitly say the Holy Spirit is Gabriel. Muslims have only come to this conclusion because Of a contradiction in the Quran. One verse says Gabriel brings down revelation and the other the Spirit. lol
Christians do not worship the holy spirit, we worship God. You will never convince me that the Holy Spirit doesn't exist because I was filled with the Holy Spirit when I was young and was given the gift of speaking in tongues. Yes it is a gift from God, but the ability to prophesy and speak in tongues are all gifts of the Holy Spirit. I do not pass judgement on your religion because Mohammed was a prophet and his words are just as important as the words in the Bible.
@malifacent1974 I'm really going to be praying for you brother! You cannot be this lukewarm. If you claim to be a Christian you believe that Jesus was the Son of God and died on the cross for the remission of sins. That would make Mohammed a false prophet because he claimed that Jesus was NOT the Son of God and did not even die on the cross. You can't have both.
@3g4freem Isaac and Ishmael are sons of Abraham. We come from the same bloodline. God told us not to judge our fellow man and as a Christian I choose not to judge them but to pray for them. Their belief in Mohammed is as real as our belief in God and Jesus. I do not agree with their philosophy but that is their choice which God gave us all. We aren't forced to have faith in him, we do because of how he works in our own lives. The Jews don't believe in Jesus yet I fully support Israel.
@malifacent1974 You said, "Mohammed was a prophet." If that is the case then his words are true. If his words are true then Jesus did not die for our sins. If you believe that then you are not a Christian. :-( I dunno if you were saying it to be respectful or what, but recognizing him as a prophet has serious implications.
"Theologians today are in agreement that the Hebrew Bible does not contain a doctrine of the Trinity ... theologians agree that the New Testament also does not contain an explicit doctrine of the Trinity. In the immediate post New Testament period of the Apostolic Fathers no attempt was made to work out the God-Christ (Father-Son) relationship in ontological terms" (The Encyclopedia of Religion, Mircea Eliade, Trinity, Vol 15, p53-57).
The fact that Christ prayed to a higher being (Matt 26:39, Luke 6:12) is sufficient proof that he is NOT God as God doesn’t indulge in doing prayers.
Jesus is NOT the only son of God as God has sons by the tons (Gen 6:2, 4; Exodus 4:22 ; Jeremiah 31:9; Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7).
And being son of God DOESN’T make Jesus part of the Godhead but merely as God’s righteous servant (Abdullah in Arabic) as attested in Mark 15:39 c.f. Luke 23:47 as well as Acts 3:13 , 26; 4:27 , 30.
This video is absolutely ludicrous. The "reason" in it is just funny. This is what Muslims mean when they say that their religion is a "rational one", and one of "logic". Utter garbage, meaningless drivel.
You don't disprove Christianity, you only try and disprove trinity. Christianity without trinity is still Christian. True Christians follow Christ, not dogma or false teachings, pray to true god (JHWH) and claim Christ as God's Son.
WHAT about Ananias and Sapphira in fucking Acts? Peter told them they had lied unto ther oly Ghost AND AFTER THAT: 'Thou hast not lied unto men but UNTO GOD!"
The Holy Ghost is NOT FUCKING GABRIEL, you dumb cluck fuck cunt...
@MrJasonhenry7 a term not being mentioned is proof of nothing. terms are ways of defining concepts that exist, nothing more nor less yes, you are convinced, so what? Muslims are convinced as are hindus, etc READ the Bible and see that 1 God is one God and there are NO OTHER GODS 2 God called the Son, GOD 3 Peter calls the Holy Ghost, GOD 4 the father raised JEsus 5 the Holy Spirit raised Jesus 6 Jesus took his own life up again (claimed ONLY He could do so) 7 ALL three created things
You are confusing The Angel Gabriel with God the Holy Spirit.
The Heavenly Father sent His angel Gabriel to announce to the Virgin that she was chosen to be the Mother of His Only Son. When Mary consented to God's will, the Holy Spirit (the third person of the Blessed Trinity who is God) conceived God's Only Son in her womb. We call this the incarnation of "the Son". When God became man while remaining God.
Q. from a Christion, are we not all sons and daughters of God, then Jesus wither way would be the son of God?
Why do we worship Jesus Christ over God most of the time, when he told his prophets that he is a servant and not to Worship him but God?
Is God a servant if Jesus is God?
Don't Christians all view Jesus as their Father?
Does accepting Jesus mean not accepting him as God but accepting his teaching as him giving his life for our sins as God sent him to do, thus cleansing us?
@dancedanceeyeah John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
1:14 - And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us.
Jesus came to not only save us from our sins but to teach us how to live. That even Him, being devine can selflessly serve others. What a great God...and we or I anyway, don't worship Jesus over God..but I think He deserves thanks and praise for what He has done for us. The bible is clear though about Jesus and who He is
@caseybaby612 This was John speaking, not GOD, nor a Prophit. Christians so often confuse the words of Paul and others in the New Testament with that of GOD, Jesus and other Prophits.
@HagarTheHorribleOne Nope it was Jesus. John 17:1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father......"the monologue goes on till John 17:26..Jesus words...That is the verse you were talking about right?
@ThirdNUnion Jesus is one with God He is God also..not "a" God.
John 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men.
John 14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
so please if your a christian think what would jesus do think God has chosen you so don't get discouraged and lose so precious eternity with our father Jesus Christ
(Galatians 5:19-23) Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. if i listen to me i will fail
i don't need to understand what is the Holy Spirit but it's strength it's power it's complete fruits “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.” (Galatians 5:22) i do need this cause he makes me humble and without him i would be completely me a sinner and these are the fruits of holy spirit
the holy spirit is a fire it's the very power that you can ask when troubled if you neglet the holy spirit that the The Unpardonable Sin – Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit scripture and Jesus said this Assuredly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation” – because they said, “He has an unclean spirit.” (Mark 3:28-30) thats all
The bible says over and over that Jesus is the son of God..The devil even refers to Jesus as the Son of God in Matthew 4:3 and over again..the bible claims that Jesus is the Son of God you guys are twisting everything out of context.
@MDGsoldieroffortune That verse is out of context. : "...Neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father who gave them me, is greater than all, and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are One."
John 17:20-22 "That the ALL may be made ONE. Like thou Father art in me, I in thee, that they may be ONE in us. I in
them, they in me, that they may be perfect in ONE".
Here Jesus is talking to 12 apostles, and you can make a same case that there are 13 Gods
@StuntWorkz that verse goes on to say.. John 17:24 "Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD." Jesus existed before the creation of the world..He wasn't created! He has always exsisted with God and is God. How can you read God's words and not see that He has always existed and been ONE with God. He's not a creation..He's the creator.
umm...i haven't read that in context, but an angel was sent to Mary and to Joseph to tell them she would give birth to Jesus as a virgin...umm, the bible talks about the angels being sent to them..its completely separate from how she was to have a virgin birth..
@clevelandshero23 it proves that trinity is a lie by Pagan Vatican....Holy Spirit is Angel Gabriel just like Quran states. 1 John 5:7 is a good example of their Pagan History.
This video is nothing new to me.....in Quran it states clearly that Holy Ghost is Angel Gabriel....and in Quran it states that Angel Gabriel appeared to Virgin Marry to let her know that she will have a child.
Quran [19:19] He said, "I am the messenger of your Lord, to grant you a pure son."
very very nice video...also whats interesting is that Torah and Quran are mathematically coded the same that know one new for hundreds and hundreds of years. such a crazy code that puts Newton to shame
@celioabatti See, u offer ur opinion...where is ur evidence? U cant refute....I posted a lot and you chose to talk fecal matter. There is no logic and neither. Also, Muhammad was shaking in fear....where is your proof he had seizures before and after the message?Also, even if he had seizures, how does exclude not being the word of God when God possibly enforced it through a Kundalini process? Again, no logic, purely your poor perception.
@celioabatti lol, idiot, you cant refute me! I am patiently waiting for you to respond so I can answer your other pathetic attempts. Your just buying time so u can read other anti-Islam sites. I posted more than you and you only read your bible because of my inputs....otherwise you wouldnt read it unless I challenge it. Pathetic...your not reading it on your own effort.
@celioabatti you are not polite...I can answer and give you tons of information. I posted WAY more stuff than you have and NOT ONE of my postings were answered. NOT ONE. I answered all except this round. And I still have all the answers to your contradictions. ALL OF THEM. Its just pointless because you dont even read what I post and will not answer any of my contradicting passages of the bible...reason is, YOU CANT. U think you r ahead but clearly you bit the dust off my heels.
If what you say is true I respect and admire that , and just so you know I have MANY muslim friends and I know that 95% of them are God fearing and loving people , my posts on this page were just to expose those who are extremists and use Islam as a badge. GBU!
@celioabatti You dont even read my posts in full. So I am reluctant to talk to you further, u are just plain ignorant and a POOR Christian....so biased. U r a waste of time and very disrespectful. U want me to repeat all my contradictions of the bible because you couldnt read them the first time. U r a nut job from Satan and oblivious to reason, logic and learning. U cant teach someone who cant poor piss out of a boot even if the instructions are at the bottom!U r a loser that simple.
The god of Muslims is revealed as a tyrant who demands Muslims and all others submit to him. Whereas in the New Testament, Jesus revealed to Christians a God who is a loving Father, who wants us to come to Him via free will. In the Old Testament (Exodus 34:6) the real God revealed Himself ". He is the Creator of the Universe, the God of Love, and Lord of Life. The God of Israel is this true God. He insists "Thou shall not kill the innocent and just".
@celioabatti God highly recommends peace and submission. God offered His love through gospel and you men perverted and practically pissed on it by altering it in your favor...not once, nor twice but a hundred something times and even more. Yahweh, no one knows how its pronounced in it right...again, Jesus nor his disciples never mentioned that name. Even for Jesus being born in a Jewish background...he was not preaching Judaism. U coward, you cant answer my posts below.
This video said The Holy Ghost = Grabriel.
I can show you all video is lying.
The Holy Ghost has no body and angel Grabriel has body.
The Holy Ghost is God's Spirit.
The maker of this video has made a fool of himself.
MegaDwell 1 month ago
I do not believe in the trinity or that the Holy Ghost is some other god of a trinity. I do not believe Jesus is God but I believe he is the son of God and the Father alone is God Jehovah.
Now this video is crap pure crap, the Holy Ghost is not an angle, it is the spirit of the Father, it is his spirit not some other being.
SkinnyAndShort 1 month ago
Very very lame video....and completely wrong.
stixandpix1966 1 month ago
Christians are so stupid and illogical by saying they don't worship and believe in 3 Gods but 1 God manifested as 3 persons? Do they speak and understand english?
They say the Father is God, The Son is God and the Holy Spirit is God but they're not 3 Gods but ONE GOD haaaaaaaahahahahaha how ILLOGICAL and FALSE
Its like saying that Joe is God, Tim is God and Lee is God but they're not 3 Gods but ONE GOD haaaaaaahahaaha you get it now Christianity is a FALSE religion and believes in a FALSE God.
ExtremeEnergyForce 2 months ago
@ExtremeEnergyForce
What's illogical abt that..
the sun is one.... but gives 3 energies... light , heat and radiation...
obviously you are trying to use human logic which is so limited .... to understand God's logic... can pour a jug of water .. all of it in a cup? ... no... only a part of it...that's our mind small and limited.....
resultant64 2 weeks ago
contd...from a chapter of any book and saying that this is what the entire book is based on. I'm sure the same thing can be done with scriptures from any faith and say that one passage sums it all up completely. As has been said before...pretty lame attempt. Too much time on your hands..why not use the time God has given you to do something useful and purposeful. Peace and love.
paulinesmith44 2 months ago
What a shame. We are ALL God's children. As others have said not ALL Christians believe in the 'holy trinity' as being one. There is God, His son Jesus, who after being baptized was filled with a second baptizm of fire...the Holy Ghost (Spirit). They are ALL part of the Godhead but they are 3 separate entities with separate purposes. Many christians use the method you have used here to discredit the beliefs of others by quoting ONE verse to try to prove a point. that's like taking one sentence
paulinesmith44 2 months ago
@mlamry01 if you are going to try and discredit the bible at least read the whole chapter before you post a video on here and make an idiot of yourself. Not all christians believe in the trinity but we all agree Gabriel and The Holy Spirit are not one and the same since Gabriel is clearly identified as an angel who delivers the 'good news' to Mary.
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jwawesome1 3 months ago
Disprove the 100s of people I have seen healed. Tumors falling off, HIV/AIDS gone, joints growing, backs fixed. Disprove the 1000s of personal prophecies I have seen come true. I could go on and on.
But God bless and I pray you are lead to the father one day.
zoozootaken 3 months ago
Luke 1:35 "And the angel answered and said unto her, The holy Ghost shall come unto thee and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy things shall be born of thee and shall be called the Son of God.
Coolguysaj 3 months ago
Still debating on 2000 years old book which have 1000 of version and one goes against another. Ok fine, before put faith on anything research all fine. If u dont want to see the truth than live as frog in pond.
solynawaz 3 months ago
1 John 5:7- For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Coolguysaj 4 months ago
@Coolguysaj I think its been 50-60yrs you have not read or bought a Bible. 90% of the world has not been using the KJV.
The current Bible does not have this text.
The text you mentioned was unceremoniously thrown out of the Bible by 32 scholars backed by 50 denominations as "interpolation" and "concoctions" and considered to be a footnote by someone which crept into original text while printing
Then church had to "force" Revised to suit missionaries
1 John 5:7 For there are three that testify
Zenithemail 3 months ago
CHristians do not worship the holy Ghost .but only as part of God
delagrazia 4 months ago
Luke 1:26-35 Angel Grabriel was talking to Mary, Angel Grabriel didn't went inside Mary. The video is full of lies and stupid.
MegaDwell 4 months ago
Jesus said worship me. Matthew 15:9
MegaDwell 4 months ago
I am a christian, I know that there is no trinity, The father son and holy ghost, Are 3 attributes of 1 person, His name is Jesus, And he said, If you don't believe that I am he, you will die in your sins.
TheBrideage 4 months ago
I couldn't help notice where you used pagan and christian together. they are two very different things. I believe in the trinity and no where in the bible says that we are suppose to worship the holy spirit. The only one we worship is the creator Jehova or YHWH in hebrew. I don;t know what kind of christians be worshiping the holy spirit lol.
kickfliprommo 4 months ago
Matthew 1:18 corresponse to Luke 1:35 NOT Luke 1:26-27
Angel ≠ Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost
TheGreenPastures 4 months ago
The bible says the messhia is God isaiah 9:6-9
and the lord jesus said me and my father are one john 10 and jesus said my father lives in me and i live in my father john 14
and God called his own son God hebrews 1
and jesus said all authrithy has been given to me by my father so that everyone should honour the son as they honour the father john 5
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MY FRIEND YOU REPRESENT THE POWER OF THE ANTICHRIST [THE DECEIVER].READ YOUR BIBLE PROPERLY THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD, HE DWELLS IN US,JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER IS GOD.IN SHORT WHAT AM TRYING TO SAY IS THAT THE FATHER = JESUS CHRIST [THE SON] = THE HOLY SPIRIT.IT THE SAME DEITY [GOD].I DONT BELIEVE IN TRINITY AND THE BIBLE DOES NOT DIRECTLY MENTION TRINITY.GOD IS ONE.
josephmainahi 5 months ago
MY FRIEND YOU REPRESENT THE POWER OF THE ANTICHRIST [THE DECEIVER].READ YOUR BIBLE PROPERLY THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD, HE DWELLS IN US,JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER IS GOD.IN SHORT WHAT AM TRYING TO SAY IS THAT THE FATHER = JESUS CHRIST [THE SON] = THE HOLY SPIRIT.IT THE SAME DEITY [GOD].I DONT BELIEVE IN TRINITY AND THE BIBLE DOES NOT DIRECTLY MENTION TRINITY.GOD IS ONE.
josephmainahi 5 months ago
In the Gospel of John 17:3 says Jesus' conversation with God: "And this is eternal life: to know thee the only true God, and him whom thou hast sent, Jesus Christ.
almirmuslija 5 months ago
@m3talizkewld00d Here is a verse about Christ telling us to pray to him. John 14:14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.. You forgot to mention this huh? :D
Risen1s 5 months ago
@m3talizkewld00d Nah, he said pray to the Father in the name of the Son. You have your facts wrong
Risen1s 5 months ago
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
NOTICE: Before creation was there was God and the Word. That is the "US" in Genesis 1:26.
In John 1:14, the Word was made flesh. Jesus is the Word.
In Acts 10:38 it says, Jesus was annointed by the Holy Spirit and God was with Him!
The Word was God JUST AS the rib was Adam!
Jesus NEVER claimed to be God!
Pikovayadamochka 5 months ago
God is the Father of Jesus--John 3:16
The Holy Spirit is God--Acts 5:1-4
The Holy Spirit is the Father of Jesus--Matthew 1:18; Luke 1:35
Pikovayadamochka 5 months ago
I do NOT believe in the trinity BUT your video does NOT disprove the trinity.
God is a spirit--John 4:24 What kind of spirit is God? The Holy Spirit is God--Acts 5:1-4 The Holy Spirit is God and NOT an angel!
Pikovayadamochka 5 months ago
Both muslims and christains are equally deceived, you retards are about to cause WW3 with no regard for the rest of us who just want to live our lives without religious dictatorship. I dont need religion to love and serve God.What I need is for all the idiots to quit asserting something of which they only have limited understanding.
williamsrmail 5 months ago
Hey, you guys know what the goofiest thing is? You're arguing about things that intelligent folks find highly laughable....a virgin....birthing a child. If god is the creator of all things, presuming he created himself once already why the need to even use humans? He simply could have manifested, no? Its just another example of religions attempt to demonize the natural process of biology and behavior. How dare god be conceived in a traditional act of reproduction. Why choose stupidity?
TheAlvindaily 6 months ago
mlamry01 watch?v=-YKLDBgRvKU
Danielezerable 6 months ago
LOLOLO pathetic Who ever Made this Video forgot that Muslims Believe The Holly Spirit is Gabriel then they said JESUS spoke about the Holly Spirit that was coming to be Muhammad so Who is it Gabriel or Mohammad?
make up your mind. LOLOLO
LOVELIFETRUTH 6 months ago
I'm so upset I want to strap on a bomb vest and kill innocent people......
progressfabbrian 6 months ago
TLDR
talk about it and you'll have my interest
goaliedude32 6 months ago
If christiaty is the only reel religion then wy was jesus a jew ????
Checkmate christians.
christianity 0 - 1 jewdaism
massine10 6 months ago
God is playing with His Mother Vagina, He was the Father (cause of marys impregnated), and he was the son. GOD GETTING BIRTH TO HIMSELF. He was the father as well as the son?. Christianity are getting so confusing. Long ago, they preached you Trinity. Now They Themself Dont believed in it. I Dont know what will happens in the future, say 100 yrs. from now. What will be their God Concepts?. I will not be surprise if in the Future, They will be Worshipping "Siva", "Krishna" and "Buddha" too.
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It's almost cute when Muslims try to disprove Christianity. Luke 1:35 "And the angel (Gabriel) answered and said unto her, The HOLY GHOST shall came upon thee, and the POWER of the HIGHEST shall overshadow thee." (Thank you to evozro for providing the verse.) If anything, you have actually BUILT a case for the trinity.
TheTrojantroy 7 months ago
This was a lame atempt to "Destroy Christianity" I don't beleive in the trinity, but you need to read the whole passage in Luke and you will see that the Holy Ghost caused the conception in Mary. Gabriel DOES NOT = Holy Ghost. Luke 1:35 And the angel (Gabriel) answered and said unto her, The HOLY GHOST shall came upon thee, and the POWER of the HIGHEST shall overshadow thee: therefore also that Holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the SON OF GOD. Gabriel was just a messenger.
evozro 7 months ago 7
@evozro
so u mean Mother mary was Gods so called Wife + mother ??? comon it gets worst everytime u christians talk
C0PYRIGHTS 7 months ago
wow thats really very interesting statement , wich version of the bible is this ? and how is that your bible has being change modified and corrupted taking books in and out and changing passages to the Christians convenience again and again making things so confused that y our own people cant even understand it any more.....come on no offense but your book called the bible is like the us constitution change modified corrupted and the worst part confusing
qbanpride4eve 4 months ago
@qbanpride4eve.If the Bible has been changed so many times that christians cant understand it then you can easily provide at least 10 differences Can you?islam has 70sects ,although Koran is a simple book that tells you how to dress how to argue with your wife who to have friends.Bible is a book of spirituality Is more than a book of moral codes,Official disagreements,are very subtle things which Koran does not include at all.
delagrazia 4 months ago
And I could spare all the above saying It should be read in HELLENISETIC ,same as muslims claim the koran should be read only in Arabic in order to be really understood,bcoz in english it looses its exact meaning.But in reality there are some v.good translations
delagrazia 4 months ago
you are L.K.G student. it's enough.
manohar128 7 months ago
The trinity is a false doctrine period now to be fair Islam is a false religion and I tell you why . First Muslims follow the teachings of Moses but when the Creator said his name to Moses he said I am that I am but if you read further you see YHWH but your bible will say LORD but we know the name is YHWH so where did Muhammed get Allah from he get Gabriels name right but not the Creators something is wrong here . And YHWH is pronounced YaHuWaH that is our heavenly fathers name research it
arcjahad 7 months ago
@arcjahad hey friend jus some food for thought ,arabic and hebrew share alot of words as a they are both connected to aramaic.the word Elohim ,Eloha and Allah are the same meaning ,god bless
nebulasxtv 6 months ago
Bible destroys Koran- Koran states that Jesus did not die on the cross (surah 4:157), this is the one undisputed fact that we know about Jesus- the Koran is wrong
agnostaxian 7 months ago 2
There are enough people here already. Some with very good information and some who don't have a very good understanding. I will simply say that your presentation was not convincing in the least and shows a gross misunderstanding on your part. I urge you to learn more by reading the four gospels again before attempting to post conversion videos.
MsColdCanada 7 months ago 2
Sorry, it out of context, and beside Jesus said I am which a name of God in Judaism. He said he was God, so if Jesus says he has Father. He has to have Father. Both our idea can not be true you are right.
MrHellowwww1 7 months ago
You blatantly ignore the rest of the chapter in Luke. In verse 1:35 Gabriel talks about the Holy Spirit coming over Marry to have her conceive child. So if the Holy Spirit is Gabriel then why is He talking about Himself in 3rd person? Why does Gabriel have the power to create a child in Marry? Only God has the power to create. In verse 1:15 Gabriel says the Holy Spirit will fill John the Baptist. Does this mean Gabriel will posses John? Are you ignoring these verses (facts) to push your view?
MAJ061785 7 months ago
@MAJ061785 so, you are saying the Jesus was created and NOT the Creator.... how can one be both... you contradict yourself...
HagarTheHorribleOne 7 months ago
@HagarTheHorribleOne No, The Bible says Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit. He had already existed as God and is mentioned in the Old Testament ~ Proverbs 30:4, Isaiah 48:16, Isaiah 61:1, Daniel 7:13, etc. The old testament speaks of 3 distinct persons of Yahweh who are all fully God ~ Yahweh the Father - Exodus 4:22-23, Messenger of Yahweh - Exodus 3:1-17, and the Spirit of Yahweh - 2 Samuel 23:2-3.
MAJ061785 7 months ago
@MAJ061785 I was quoting you when I said that not the bible. If GOD the father is Spirit the what is the purpose of the Holy Spirit? If the burning bush was Jesus why did he not identify him self as the son of man? Why did Jesus, who was the messenger from GOD, say clearly "I am GOD in the flesh who came to die for your sins"
HagarTheHorribleOne 7 months ago
@HagarTheHorribleOne God is beyond a spirit. He's a multidimensional omnipresent being. His multidimensional quality is revealed in the universe as multi-person since our universe doesnt have the math to support multidimensionalism. If God was just a spirit He would be on the same level as the angels. The Holy Spirit is a way in which God reveals His omnipresent quality. Jesus revealed Himself to Moses by calling Himself "I AM. " Then in John 8:58 Jesus called himself "I AM" to reveal who he was
MAJ061785 7 months ago
The holy spirit represents what we would call the feminine aspect of God, she is wisdom personified. Refer to King Solomon on wisdom
adistantgeneration 8 months ago
@adistantgeneration Feminine? Masculine? There you go again putting God in little humanoid boxes and confining him so he becomes easier to understand and digest. This constant and prepetual anthropomorhizing of God does him a great disservice. God reveals to us his traits i.e. the characteristics that motivate his actions and NOT his perfect devine nature, because that would be beyond our comprehension. We should all have the humility to at least admit that.
zetticat 7 months ago
@zetticat As we are created in God's image, it is more appropriate to say that male and female are reflections or facets of Gods natures.
adistantgeneration 7 months ago
i dont really get the substance of this video
vizingsta 8 months ago
That would have to be the worst exercise of exegesis I've ever seen. But I suppose you can't expect much else from someone who calls a book like the Quran 'holy' now can you.
AlainSta60 8 months ago
you forgot to post the rest of what the verse says..
Luke 1:34-35
"How will this be," Mary asked the angel, "since I am a virgin?" The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.
Gabriel does not say she will bear child from him, but by the power of God through the Holy Spirit.. this video is just goofy
Risen1s 8 months ago 8
@Risen1s tell me who is the holy spirit/ghost
DanishnSonic 4 months ago
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@DanishnSonic The Holy Spirit is God of course
Risen1s 4 months ago
Matthew 27:46 Jesus said the Father forsaken
Jesus felt like Father forsaken him Trinity:True Oneness:True
The Father forsaken Jesus in action Trinity:True Oneness:False.
Genesis 1:26 says us and our.
The Shema has three names of God with three parts with the Rabbis pray with three fingers making Hebrew character. Second principle of Judaism is God of unity.
Four dimensional object is one which we do not understand. check out jewsofjesus
MrHellowwww1 9 months ago
All these comments make little sense, many of you lack faith and hope, which is the foundation of any religion. Faith and hope; now think hard where you fit in this world, your here to produce some good or here to take and use. Which one are you?
hillrunner2 9 months ago
Satan is your Enemy not Islam not Mohammed but it s your problem because the Trinity is infected from Satan and cannot free themselves from Satan the ugly
AZRAELMO 9 months ago
Realy Jesus bores me the bible his father is Sick many Christians are sick very sick
all too sicks should Die!Kill themselves cause they are anyway dead in the moment when they Talk about innocent like Satan do
Allah was God is God will ever be Holy Ruler of the World
and Jesus cannot rule a Planet or more Planets Fuck you Jesus Christianity after the Judgement Day is over for you!
AZRAELMO 9 months ago
@AZRAELMO You're pretty much right until you start talking about Allah.
MagikarpPower 9 months ago
@MagikarpPower You don t know in your Bible about that Satan want to overtake the World and that is only Allah God the Ruler because you don t know that Satan will be punished on Judgement Day for all KillerKills who have happened from all Times forever! maybe you believe the other Dirt Shit they Talk about Islam Mohammed Allah
AZRAELMO 9 months ago
@AZRAELMO God, or Allah, doesn't exist, so everything you said there is irrelevant.
MagikarpPower 9 months ago
@MagikarpPower YES FOR YOUR JESUS OH GOD WHY HAVE YOU LEFT ME ALONE AND ALL AND EVERYTHING IS LEAVED FROM GOD LIKE JESUS RIGHT ? OK FUCK YOU AND FUCK JESUS AND FUCK THE BIBLE AND FUCK THE CHRISTIAN TRINITY AND FUCK MARY TOOOOO AND YOU TOO AGAIN YES ONLY SATAN THINK LOOK AND TALK FOR YOU FUCK YOU SATAN MAGICKARP
AZRAELMO 9 months ago
@AZRAELMO Neither Satan nor a holy Jesus exists. No god has ever existed. I don't know what point you're trying to make.
MagikarpPower 9 months ago
@MagikarpPower I don t make a Point it s the Satan who have maded a Point and that all the People of the World are innocent damned from him and only the strong believers come through his wickedness and don t let themselve to Slave from him that is the reason why Allah send Prophet Mohammed As Selam and his Quran
AZRAELMO 9 months ago
@AZRAELMO like all religions, Islam is garbage. Jesus, Allah, Satan, God, Thor, Apollo, etc., do not exist. Keep believing that you're a "strong believer" when really you're just terribly irrational.
MagikarpPower 9 months ago
@MagikarpPower You don t know Me!, you talkin about yourself!
AZRAELMO 9 months ago
@AZRAELMO then prove any god exists.
MagikarpPower 9 months ago
trinity - heresy----------
kombatzero 9 months ago
Do not forget that I John 5:7 was added to fit trinity doctrine and other verses too.
Just one God and he left his glory to be among people.
Everything Jesus spoke in parables, but explained everything to his disciples in private.
he said, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of God, but for others they are in PARABLES, so that ‘seeing they may not SEE, and hearing they may not UNDERSTAND.
He is a parable in himself.
TheEl7ohim 9 months ago
"You worship the Holy Ghost yet no where in the Bible does it say to worship it(or Jesus(AS).)"John 4:24-"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."If God is a Spirit and God is Holy then that makes God...The Holy Spirit. This video is terrible I am disappointed.
MrEmeraldfusion 9 months ago
Sorry friend, The angel Gabriel simply came to Mary to explain what would take place, the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit is God himself, not the angel, John 4:24. It was the Spirit of God that overshadowed Mary, not a third person of a false trinity..
MrApostolicdoctrine1 10 months ago
very good try but u didn't read very good this was gabriel talking to Mary yes but what does he say in verse luke 1:35 here it says the Holy Ghost shall come upon thee
so at that time in Luke Gabriel was just telling mary what was going to happen
if ur gonna quote the bible plz read the whole context
chrisandstaci 10 months ago
@chrisandstaci
The more you read the bible, e more u will see Jesus (pbuh) constantly referred himself as 'son of man' and he constantly glorified God in heaven. He make it very clear to the Israel..
"The most important one," answered Jesus, is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.
(Mark 12:29)
he said: ....'OUR God'....
This verse clearly prove that he is not God. FULL STOP. No explanations required. This is understood by a 5 year old child.
srkb001 10 months ago
This video does not "destroy" the Trinity. Because 1.) Trinitarians too believe Jesus was born of flesh and blood, BUT existed eternally prior to His incarnation in the form of God, see John 1:1-14, and Philippians 2:1-7. And 2.) you didn't quote the passage of Luke in its entirety and ripped it from the surrounding context. So, what is it about this video that is supposed to "destroy" the Trinity? I see nothing here except an affirmation of it.
clintjordan 10 months ago
What is the purpose of adopting the trinity beliefe? Why would it matter to a trinitarian if I believed in the trinity? If I believe in Yahweh and his man son then where is the issue for them? Yet if you are wrong then you stand in oposition to God. For you are worshiping another. Do you know whom you worship? Find out where the trinity came from and you will learn it's not form the bible. The beast has many fallowing.....
keydakey123 10 months ago
you are an idiot! i suppose you have all the answers. see u in hell!!!ha ha.
marcellake222 11 months ago
@marcellake222 ummm ... the bible doesn't support "hell" either. That is also pagan beliefs shoved into christianity.
TheYAHnitarian 10 months ago
@TheYAHnitarian Actually, I affirm that the Bible does support the Doctrine of Eternal Torment. I'm almost convinced that you are a Unitarian Universalist of some kind, considering, they too deny the Doctrine of the Trinity, as well as Hell, and argue that everybody, everywhere will eventually be saved. If you would like we can discuss this in depth.
clintjordan 10 months ago
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tigersforchrist 11 months ago
MANY MANY "Christians" don't believe in a trinity. The alternative to not believing in the trinity isnt being a muslim. Yeshua was not a trinitarian, He never said He was the Father, quite to the contrary. The Romans murdered anybody who followed Yeshua's true teachings (which was Torah & the Kingdom of YHWH) Any "Christian" with half a brain could research Torah & Ancient Hebrew & see that a TRUE Christian wouldn't believe in a triune God.
TheYAHnitarian 11 months ago
@TheYAHnitarian Actually, you foolishly assume that Trinitarians believe that Jesus is the Father when you stated, "Yeshua was not a trinitarian, He never said He was the Father."
Fact is... Trinitarians DO NOT believe Jesus is the Father, that is what is called SABELLIANISM, not Trinitarianism.
clintjordan 10 months ago
@TheYAHnitarian All you silly little people running around saying, "there is no Trinity," and half of you which claim to be "Christian," don't even have the slightest idea of what it actually states. Truly, if God has given you eyes to see, then you surely would have known this little bit of information.
clintjordan 10 months ago
@TheYAHnitarian As for this, "many many 'Christians' don't believe in a trinity" ordeal, this is simply untrue. In fact, all Christians believe in the Trinity, from Catholic, Orthodox (Greek, Syriac, Coptic, etc.), and Protestants. In fact, about the only two groups of heretics that don't believe in the Trinity are Oneness Pentecostals/Apostolic Oneness/Sabellians (they believe Jesus is the same Person as the Father), and Arians/Jehovah's Witnesses.
clintjordan 10 months ago
@TheYAHnitarian However, virtually every other denomination, whether it be Independent Baptist, Reformed Baptist, Southern Baptist, Anglican, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Pentecostal (not to be confused with Oneness Pentecostal), Methodist, Episcopalian, Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Syriac Orthodox, Coptic Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, Bulgarian Orthodox, Armenian Orthodox, Gregorian Orthodox -- and the 2,000+ other denominations -- believe in the Trinity.
clintjordan 10 months ago
@TheYAHnitarian What we DO believe is that there are three co-eternal and co-equal Persons whom are distinct from one another. The Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is not the Father, et al. These three Persons who have existed co-eternally are equal in terms of nature, that is, the Father is not more "divine" than the Son, they are equally God -- they possess the exact same measure of Deity than the other.
clintjordan 10 months ago
@TheYAHnitarian The Father, Son, and Spirit exist in total harmony with one another, the Son is not a "loose canon" off to do His own bidding, for the three Persons of the Trinity work together in unity (hence "Trinity," aka Tri-unity) in all things, and exist in unity of Essence, just as the universal Body of Christ, though it consists of many members, exists in unity within its very being.
clintjordan 10 months ago
@TheYAHnitarian Three Persons existing together in unity and harmony within the Divine Essence, just as truly born again believers exist together in unity within the Body of Christ. The Father, Son, and Spirit are One, just as a man and his wife are one (Genesis 2:24), in union -- One God.
clintjordan 10 months ago
@clintjordan can't believe you actually "explained" that to me. I know perfectly well what it's about, it's just incorrect. I don't know about you, but when I was married, my husband and I didn't become one being, we both had separate jobs, ideas, and bodies. The trinity is a pagan lie given to us by Rome. Yeshua spends His entire career saying the opposite. Man & wife become one as a UNIT. Their goals are supposed to be for the two of them, not just themselves.Yeshuas work was His Fathers.
TheYAHnitarian 10 months ago
Who ever made this Video Dint Read the Entire Chapter of Luke Read and you will see. And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God
Luke 1:35 . If Gabriel Was the Holly Ghost why dint he said I will come upong thee. Gabriel said The holly Ghost shall come upong thee. PEOPLE TEST THE SPIRITS TO SEE IF THEY ARE FROM GOD
LOVELIFETRUTH 11 months ago
There are many flaws to your so called claim that Christianity can be destroyed by that. The bible mentions the three in several places. Isaiah 48:16-17 for example.
Does that mean all Christians worship the 'Trinity'? No, it doesn't. Just like all muslims do not believe in strapping bombs to themselves and murdering children. But they use how they read their book to excuse it.
The Qur'an however approves of marrying children, relatives, allah got the trinity wrong, Lied about Jews, etc.
Curveball 11 months ago
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Curveball 11 months ago
I AM A CHRISTIAN, AND I BELIEVE YOUR RIGHT! I DONT BELIEVE IN FATHER, SON AND HOLY GHOST. IT SAYS IN TEN COMANDMENTS NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME. I DONT PUT JESUS BEFORE GOD. AM I WRONG?
aliacher 11 months ago
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Wakey wakey people. There's a big wide world out there and it is the 21st century. Time for a reality check! Is Jesus God ... or isn't he? The answer is simple: Yes! - If you believe he is and NO! - if you believe he isn't.
Now, why don't you leave other people's beliefs alone and get a life. Afterall, this may be the only life you'll get. Just .... maybe!!!
psychicman105 11 months ago
if jesus was not the word then who created the world in genisis ???
and also in zecharia 12:10 god as i said before Quote"They will look on Me whom they have pierced,Yes they will morn for him as one morns of his only son
here we have god talkin about jesus and as well i could quote more places from the new testament were jesus says he was the creator and also could show how Abraham has met JESUS? but yes he has
chrisandstaci 11 months ago
I have a few scriptures for u zechariah chapter 12 verse 10 Now this is my understanding that God is speaking he says he was pierced??? i thought jesus was pierced when he was put to death by cross.
I would never just say 1 verse thats nonsence
John 1:1 my question is who is the Word??? Answer Philipians chapter 2 versus 6-8 tells u that it says there that someone has humbled himself to become a servant and to die at the cross/???? who is that
chrisandstaci 1 year ago
@chrisandstaci YAHWEH gave Moses the spoken & written Word, He didn't give Moses "JESUS". Yahweh's spoken & written Word was manifested in Moses flesh because Moses learned everything Yahweh taught him on Mount Sinai. Moses took the Word of Yahweh and delivered it to Israel. Yahweh's Word of the Ten Commandments dwelt among Israel inside the Ark of the Covenant.
Jesus is not Yahweh, but YAHWEH manifested His spoken &written Word in Jesus flesh the same as Moses. Yahweh's Word dwells in Bibles.
upNyaBizznizz 11 months ago
Yahweh's Word dwells amongst Hebrews & Gentiles. Jesus manifested Yahweh's spoken & written Word of the Torah & Tanakh in his heart & mind. Yahweh gave the Word of Truth to Jesus. Jesus took the spoken & written Word of Yahweh's Truth, and delivered IT to the unrighteous, that they may gain Eternal life by repenting of their sins. YAHWEH did Not manifest Himself in the flesh of a MAN, He simple gives us His spoken & written Word to manifest in our flesh. His Word dwells in our minds Forever.
upNyaBizznizz 11 months ago
We know Christ said many times that he and the Father were ONE. Mathew states that Mary was impregnated by the Holy Spirit--not the Father. And then later we find the Father saying from Heaven in Luke 3 "You are my Son...". Therefore since God considered Jesus his son and the son was impregnated by the Holy Spirit, then God and the Holy Spirit must also be ONE. Trinty--simple deductive reasoning.
gmdinformation 1 year ago
Blasphemey of the HS is unforgivable, yet nothing else is. The Bible certainly in no way would ever teach the HS is an angel lol
manotruth777 1 year ago
The Quran or Hadiths Never explicitly say the Holy Spirit is Gabriel. Muslims have only come to this conclusion because Of a contradiction in the Quran. One verse says Gabriel brings down revelation and the other the Spirit. lol
manotruth777 1 year ago
God has a Spirit is one of the first things we learn about God in Genesis 1:2
Jesus himself says, God is Spirit John 4:24
manotruth777 1 year ago
Holy Spirit called God: Acts 5:3-4
Holy Spirit ,Creator: Job 33:4, 26:13
Holy Spirit , All Knowing 1 Cor. 2:10-11.
I could go on and on my friend.
oncearound2000 1 year ago
Christians do not worship the holy spirit, we worship God. You will never convince me that the Holy Spirit doesn't exist because I was filled with the Holy Spirit when I was young and was given the gift of speaking in tongues. Yes it is a gift from God, but the ability to prophesy and speak in tongues are all gifts of the Holy Spirit. I do not pass judgement on your religion because Mohammed was a prophet and his words are just as important as the words in the Bible.
malifacent1974 1 year ago
@malifacent1974 I'm really going to be praying for you brother! You cannot be this lukewarm. If you claim to be a Christian you believe that Jesus was the Son of God and died on the cross for the remission of sins. That would make Mohammed a false prophet because he claimed that Jesus was NOT the Son of God and did not even die on the cross. You can't have both.
3g4freem 11 months ago
@3g4freem Isaac and Ishmael are sons of Abraham. We come from the same bloodline. God told us not to judge our fellow man and as a Christian I choose not to judge them but to pray for them. Their belief in Mohammed is as real as our belief in God and Jesus. I do not agree with their philosophy but that is their choice which God gave us all. We aren't forced to have faith in him, we do because of how he works in our own lives. The Jews don't believe in Jesus yet I fully support Israel.
malifacent1974 6 months ago
@malifacent1974 You said, "Mohammed was a prophet." If that is the case then his words are true. If his words are true then Jesus did not die for our sins. If you believe that then you are not a Christian. :-( I dunno if you were saying it to be respectful or what, but recognizing him as a prophet has serious implications.
3g4freem 6 months ago
Um.., wow.., lmao.., how do you guys come up with this crap.
You are speaking of two different incidents on different days
mysty0 1 year ago
"Theologians today are in agreement that the Hebrew Bible does not contain a doctrine of the Trinity ... theologians agree that the New Testament also does not contain an explicit doctrine of the Trinity. In the immediate post New Testament period of the Apostolic Fathers no attempt was made to work out the God-Christ (Father-Son) relationship in ontological terms" (The Encyclopedia of Religion, Mircea Eliade, Trinity, Vol 15, p53-57).
zorin85 1 year ago
The fact that Christ prayed to a higher being (Matt 26:39, Luke 6:12) is sufficient proof that he is NOT God as God doesn’t indulge in doing prayers.
Jesus is NOT the only son of God as God has sons by the tons (Gen 6:2, 4; Exodus 4:22 ; Jeremiah 31:9; Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7).
And being son of God DOESN’T make Jesus part of the Godhead but merely as God’s righteous servant (Abdullah in Arabic) as attested in Mark 15:39 c.f. Luke 23:47 as well as Acts 3:13 , 26; 4:27 , 30.
zorin85 1 year ago
LET US CREATE Man in OUR IMAGE... ELOHIM is for Plural or the TRINITY, as ELOHIM is used by Levite Moses to describe the creator(s) here in Genesis.
I think that you have a lot of Sun hitting you in the head in Arabia & it's not given to you to explain the Holy BIBLE
They are relating to bring a WHOLE picture & not exact replica of all the facts. Everyone noted something different of interest.
Angel Gabriel who announced says one writer +what followed is described by another SIMPLETONS.
QueenBeeSERBIAAA 1 year ago
"THERE are 3 that bear record in HEAVEN, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost & these 3 are one." KJV ~ I John 5:7
II Corinthians 3:14 "The grace of the Lord J-C, & the love of GOd, & the communion of the Holy Ghost..."
Same in Old Testament, Isaiah 6:3 "Holy,Holy,Holy"
I am the Father of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob = is for the Trinity
LEVI of the Holy Priesthood, is son #3 to Jacob.
There are 3 parts to the Tabernacle, to the Temple, 3 things placed in Ark of the Covenant, endless signs.
QueenBeeSERBIAAA 1 year ago
This video is absolutely ludicrous. The "reason" in it is just funny. This is what Muslims mean when they say that their religion is a "rational one", and one of "logic". Utter garbage, meaningless drivel.
athanasiadis24 1 year ago
You don't disprove Christianity, you only try and disprove trinity. Christianity without trinity is still Christian. True Christians follow Christ, not dogma or false teachings, pray to true god (JHWH) and claim Christ as God's Son.
SlyngBlade 1 year ago
WHAT about Ananias and Sapphira in fucking Acts? Peter told them they had lied unto ther oly Ghost AND AFTER THAT: 'Thou hast not lied unto men but UNTO GOD!"
The Holy Ghost is NOT FUCKING GABRIEL, you dumb cluck fuck cunt...
Stupid fucking cunt...
wildmanchris200 1 year ago
@wildmanchris200 In 1 Corinthians 6 you should look up the word revilers and see what Paul says about them.
3g4freem 11 months ago
buzzbbird 1 year ago
You are confusing The Angel Gabriel with God the Holy Spirit.
The Heavenly Father sent His angel Gabriel to announce to the Virgin that she was chosen to be the Mother of His Only Son. When Mary consented to God's will, the Holy Spirit (the third person of the Blessed Trinity who is God) conceived God's Only Son in her womb. We call this the incarnation of "the Son". When God became man while remaining God.
ChristTheKing2010 1 year ago
@ChristTheKing2010 holy spirit is not a person, *** rs p. 407 Trinity ***
texts say that people were “filled” with holy spirit, that some were ‘baptized’ with it or “anointed” with it. (Luke 1:41; Matt. 3:11; Acts 10:38)
ThirdNUnion 1 year ago
Gabriel was the messenger who brought the news, Not the spirit that impregnated Mary, as you seem to surmise!
RudeAwakning 1 year ago
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John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
1:14 - And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us.
Can it get any clearer than that??
Jesus wasn't created He has always existed with God. He existed before He was born He was there during creation..
caseybaby612 1 year ago
Q. from a Christion, are we not all sons and daughters of God, then Jesus wither way would be the son of God?
Why do we worship Jesus Christ over God most of the time, when he told his prophets that he is a servant and not to Worship him but God?
Is God a servant if Jesus is God?
Don't Christians all view Jesus as their Father?
Does accepting Jesus mean not accepting him as God but accepting his teaching as him giving his life for our sins as God sent him to do, thus cleansing us?
??????????
dancedanceeyeah 1 year ago
@dancedanceeyeah John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
1:14 - And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us.
Jesus came to not only save us from our sins but to teach us how to live. That even Him, being devine can selflessly serve others. What a great God...and we or I anyway, don't worship Jesus over God..but I think He deserves thanks and praise for what He has done for us. The bible is clear though about Jesus and who He is
caseybaby612 1 year ago
@caseybaby612 This was John speaking, not GOD, nor a Prophit. Christians so often confuse the words of Paul and others in the New Testament with that of GOD, Jesus and other Prophits.
HagarTheHorribleOne 1 year ago
@HagarTheHorribleOne Nope it was Jesus. John 17:1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father......"the monologue goes on till John 17:26..Jesus words...That is the verse you were talking about right?
caseybaby612 1 year ago
@caseybaby612 yes of course it says Jesus is the Son of Jehovah The God, did you know Jesus is a god as well
ThirdNUnion 1 year ago
@ThirdNUnion Jesus is one with God He is God also..not "a" God.
John 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men.
John 14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
caseybaby612 1 year ago
so please if your a christian think what would jesus do think God has chosen you so don't get discouraged and lose so precious eternity with our father Jesus Christ
latindre100 1 year ago
(Galatians 5:19-23) Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. if i listen to me i will fail
latindre100 1 year ago
i don't need to understand what is the Holy Spirit but it's strength it's power it's complete fruits “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.” (Galatians 5:22) i do need this cause he makes me humble and without him i would be completely me a sinner and these are the fruits of holy spirit
latindre100 1 year ago
the holy spirit is a fire it's the very power that you can ask when troubled if you neglet the holy spirit that the The Unpardonable Sin – Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit scripture and Jesus said this Assuredly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation” – because they said, “He has an unclean spirit.” (Mark 3:28-30) thats all
latindre100 1 year ago
The bible says over and over that Jesus is the son of God..The devil even refers to Jesus as the Son of God in Matthew 4:3 and over again..the bible claims that Jesus is the Son of God you guys are twisting everything out of context.
caseybaby612 1 year ago
JESUS SAD : ME AND THE FATHER ARE ONE - THAT´S 2 AND WITH THE HOLY GHOST THERE ARE 3 !!! GO AND PRAY TO YOUR MOON
MDGsoldieroffortune 1 year ago
@MDGsoldieroffortune That verse is out of context. : "...Neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father who gave them me, is greater than all, and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are One."
John 17:20-22 "That the ALL may be made ONE. Like thou Father art in me, I in thee, that they may be ONE in us. I in
them, they in me, that they may be perfect in ONE".
Here Jesus is talking to 12 apostles, and you can make a same case that there are 13 Gods
StuntWorkz 1 year ago
@StuntWorkz
that is what the bible says....
smh how many other ways does the Bible clearly say that God was with Jesus? that they are ONE!?!?!
Cleary clearly clearly CLEARLY says it
MrGtodadizzydot 1 year ago
@StuntWorkz that verse goes on to say.. John 17:24 "Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD." Jesus existed before the creation of the world..He wasn't created! He has always exsisted with God and is God. How can you read God's words and not see that He has always existed and been ONE with God. He's not a creation..He's the creator.
caseybaby612 1 year ago
umm...i haven't read that in context, but an angel was sent to Mary and to Joseph to tell them she would give birth to Jesus as a virgin...umm, the bible talks about the angels being sent to them..its completely separate from how she was to have a virgin birth..
caseybaby612 1 year ago
that proves that the holy spirit is not a person but Jehovah's active force
clevelandshero23 1 year ago
@clevelandshero23 it proves that trinity is a lie by Pagan Vatican....Holy Spirit is Angel Gabriel just like Quran states. 1 John 5:7 is a good example of their Pagan History.
StuntWorkz 1 year ago
@StuntWorkz yeah I just don't understand why they cant see this
clevelandshero23 1 year ago
This video is nothing new to me.....in Quran it states clearly that Holy Ghost is Angel Gabriel....and in Quran it states that Angel Gabriel appeared to Virgin Marry to let her know that she will have a child.
Quran [19:19] He said, "I am the messenger of your Lord, to grant you a pure son."
very very nice video...also whats interesting is that Torah and Quran are mathematically coded the same that know one new for hundreds and hundreds of years. such a crazy code that puts Newton to shame
StuntWorkz 1 year ago
Any sincere Muslim should consider how muhhamed received his revelation= Fell to the floor shaking and foaming at the mouth = Divine= I think not....
celioabatti 1 year ago
@celioabatti See, u offer ur opinion...where is ur evidence? U cant refute....I posted a lot and you chose to talk fecal matter. There is no logic and neither. Also, Muhammad was shaking in fear....where is your proof he had seizures before and after the message?Also, even if he had seizures, how does exclude not being the word of God when God possibly enforced it through a Kundalini process? Again, no logic, purely your poor perception.
HANGER187 1 year ago
@HANGER187 I posted alot and you cant refute!
celioabatti 1 year ago
@celioabatti lol, idiot, you cant refute me! I am patiently waiting for you to respond so I can answer your other pathetic attempts. Your just buying time so u can read other anti-Islam sites. I posted more than you and you only read your bible because of my inputs....otherwise you wouldnt read it unless I challenge it. Pathetic...your not reading it on your own effort.
HANGER187 1 year ago
@HANGER187
You call me an idiot , but you are the one that does not answer . EXAPMPLE= Alexander the Great, How many days did it take God? ECT...
I tried being polite , but the end result is that you are a terrorist and a muslim.
celioabatti 1 year ago
@celioabatti you are not polite...I can answer and give you tons of information. I posted WAY more stuff than you have and NOT ONE of my postings were answered. NOT ONE. I answered all except this round. And I still have all the answers to your contradictions. ALL OF THEM. Its just pointless because you dont even read what I post and will not answer any of my contradicting passages of the bible...reason is, YOU CANT. U think you r ahead but clearly you bit the dust off my heels.
HANGER187 1 year ago
@HANGER187
Like I said Before Your a legebd IN YOUR OWN MIND!
The bottom line is without Christ you are lost!!!
celioabatti 1 year ago
@celioabatti Actually, following and loving Christ is what brought me to Islam. Peace.
HANGER187 1 year ago
@HANGER187
If what you say is true I respect and admire that , and just so you know I have MANY muslim friends and I know that 95% of them are God fearing and loving people , my posts on this page were just to expose those who are extremists and use Islam as a badge. GBU!
celioabatti 1 year ago
@celioabatti You dont even read my posts in full. So I am reluctant to talk to you further, u are just plain ignorant and a POOR Christian....so biased. U r a waste of time and very disrespectful. U want me to repeat all my contradictions of the bible because you couldnt read them the first time. U r a nut job from Satan and oblivious to reason, logic and learning. U cant teach someone who cant poor piss out of a boot even if the instructions are at the bottom!U r a loser that simple.
HANGER187 1 year ago
The god of Muslims is revealed as a tyrant who demands Muslims and all others submit to him. Whereas in the New Testament, Jesus revealed to Christians a God who is a loving Father, who wants us to come to Him via free will. In the Old Testament (Exodus 34:6) the real God revealed Himself ". He is the Creator of the Universe, the God of Love, and Lord of Life. The God of Israel is this true God. He insists "Thou shall not kill the innocent and just".
celioabatti 1 year ago
@celioabatti God highly recommends peace and submission. God offered His love through gospel and you men perverted and practically pissed on it by altering it in your favor...not once, nor twice but a hundred something times and even more. Yahweh, no one knows how its pronounced in it right...again, Jesus nor his disciples never mentioned that name. Even for Jesus being born in a Jewish background...he was not preaching Judaism. U coward, you cant answer my posts below.
HANGER187 1 year ago
@HANGER187
Just answer ONE simple question then.....
What is your assurance of Salvation?
What does a muslim have to do to Insure his entrance into heaven?
I apoligize if i have in any way offended you my only objective was to let you know that Jesus said
Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
celioabatti 1 year ago