He'll redshirt in 2010, be a backup in 2011, and then compete fpr the starting job as a redshirt sophomore in 2012, when David Molk graduates. Hopefully by then he's got enough muscle on him to handle Big Ten defensive tackles. At least he's got great athleticism. That will partly make up for his (current) size disadvantage
1. I did not say Pace would not be a great lineman, so why you're bringing up how good Pace will be in repsonse to what I said makes no sense
2. There's nothing wrong with projecting the career of a certain player relative to the depth chart. The folks at mgoblog and Michigan dot rivals do it all the time. A few days ago, Michael Spaeth came out with a 2011 depth chart projection. Projecting the depth chart and where a certain player will be is part of the fun of being a diehard sports fan
I read through your BS and find what you're to pussy to really say Looney Tunes.
What you said, basically, is that he is small and needs to work out. Your hatred towards Michigan is so blinding that you can't see how well this kid will fit RR's system. He's an athletic lineman, the type RR needs to run HIS system.
And it doesn't surprise me that everything you post out here is stolen from Brian Cook's site OR Rivals, you lack your own creativity...expected from a thumb sucking mommas boy!
Indeed he does. As it stands right now, he'd have a hard time dealing with the beefy d-lineman that Big Ten teams have. That being said, Pace is only a senior in highschool right now. By the time Michigans needs him to start in 2012, he'll be a redshirt sophomore and by then should be big enough to physically handle the likes of Jared Odrick and Doug Worthington.
"Your hatred towards Michigan is so blinding that you can't see how well this kid will fit RR's system"
There you go again with you hate dickrod= hate Michigan fallacy. Dickrod is a head coach who has only been here since December 17th, 2007 and wasn't even born when Michigan won 10 of their first 11 national championships. Dickrod is not Michigan football, and Michigan football is not dickrod. To hate the coach is not to hate the team. I love the Wolverines, and I loath dickrod.
I see the community college edjamucation is working well for you.
ALL IN, mean ALL IN.
You don't get to pick and choose what you want and don't want. That's what children do at dinner time! But then this comes back to you being a thumb sucking mommas boy, doesn't it?
FWIW, Oakland University is not a community college. It actually is the third largest college in the state behind Michigan and Michigan State. But anywhoo.....
All in means you fully support the Michigan Wolverines even through their losing and aren't rooting for someother team cause you can't stand the losing. All in has NOTHING to do with the coaches or the players. The coaches and players are changable. The Michigan Wolverines program is not.
I applied to Michigan and never got accpeted or rejected. They never got back to me. I then applied to Oakland and got accepted. I never applied to Michigan State, so I didn't get rejected from them either.
again, what college did you go to? did you even go to college? were you a highschool dropout? don't be throwing stones from a glass building you cock licker
there you go again, when I call you out for what you are (a pussy), you go into profanity mode....so expected from a mush brain..
And I won't bother sharing with YOU where I earned my Degree from, because it's not important for me to impress an idiot of your stature. Let's just say it was somewhere that you couldn't get into....pussy!
"He's an athletic lineman, the type RR needs to run HIS system"
Thats nice. Just cause you fit a certain system doesn't mean you'll be a great player. Pace is a high level 3 star recruit who has great athleticism but lacks blue chip talent. Maybe he'll be good, maybe not. I don't know. I hope he ends up being great like you predict
So now he won't be a good player, I thought you just said "I never said he wouldn't be a good player".
Your problem, again, besides being a flaming DORK, is that you put entirely too much empahsis on that stupid star syestem. Time tells the tale, NOT the STAR rating you hold so dearly to your heart shaggy!
I can see why you were a college dropout: you never learned to read!! I did indeed say that "I never said he wouldn't be a good player." Later I said that "I don't know if he'll be good or bad." So if I say that i don't know whether he will be good or bad, hwo the hell is that contradictory to me saying I never said he'll be bad?
The star system has proven to be a reliable indicator of how good or bad a certain player will be. Its no accident that the top teams in the nation always bring
I haven't retracted anything. I stand by my comment that I don't know if Pace will be good or bad. And I maintain that I did not say that pace will be bad. And there's a damn good reason why I didn't say pace will be bad: cause I honestly don't know what he will do. For me, its a wait-and-see game with Pace. So no, I am not contradicting myself in any way, shape, or form
in the most 4 and 5 star/blue chip recruits. Its an imperfect system, obviously, but is pretty damn reliable. Any prediction about a 3 star like Pace being a great player is pure partisan speculation. Even goblue918, who is a fierce dickrod supporter, is pissed at how many non blue chip recruits we have in this 2010 class!
You don't know the full potential of a player. You are soley basing your stupid star argument on talent of the pass. Michigans got and is getting a ton of talent, star system aside. Last years and the one before was an example(s) of talented players, playing with inexpierence and unsure of themselves...PERIOD!
Its like the old saying goes: those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. History has shown that the star system is reliable, therefore, I base alot of my arguments about a player on the star system. You have no basis for saying 'michigan is getting alot of talent' when you're not basing it on anything empirical, quantitative, or even discernable. Its just your partisan, subjective speculation, and it means NOTHING when it comes to proving your point. Like you so
elegantly put it: (baseless) opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. You sir, have a baseless opinion. I do not. I base my opinions on facts and/or logic. You just spew out shit that is either disorted or just plain old non-sensical.
And as far as last year goes, Michigan had half if its scholarship roster composed of blue chip recruits (you know, the guys that USC and Florida live off of) and went 5-7. The year before that, we had 41 blue chippers and went.....3-9.
as do you. all you ever do is launch fallacious ad homimem attacks against me and repeat jargon such as "all in for Michigan." You don't make hardly any logical arguments in your favor. The few logical arguments you do make are easily dissected and destroyed by yours truly. Neither of us are newsreporters. We all get our information from various websites or newspapers or magazines. I myself find that mgoblog and michigan dot rivals provide the quickest, most
informative, up-to-date news, so i visit them everyday. The personal opinions of Cook and his mgoblogers usually are wrong, but the news Cook and his buddies like Tim Sullivan provide (such as Wednesday recruiting) is usually quite informative and entertaining. Then in Michigan dot rivals, you've got the daily newstands and other links they provide. Spaeth, John Borton, Chris Balas, etc do an excellent job with that site.
so please, don't bash me for collecting news. you do it yourself you
fucking hypocrite! Back ion October 2008, you were telling me that my video of the 1997 and 2003 similarities was on a link on a daily newstand on Michigan dot rivals, so you read the exact same link I read!
Here;s a life lesson for your stupid ass: when you constantly try to attack somebody, you inevitably make yourself look like a hypocritcal moron
I'm not bashing you for educating yourself on Michigan Football, I follow recruitng about as close as I follow Michigan athletics. What I have a problem with is you projecting yourself as some sort of know-it-all guru, when in fact your nothing more than a DORK loaner attending community college in Oakland. I've said it before, opinions are like assholes, in that everyone has one!
Here's what you said: "it doesn't surprise me that everything you post out here is stolen from Brian Cook's site OR Rivals."
What exactly am I stealing? Their opinions? Hell no! I've been a loud critic of Cook for his opinions on dickrod, Martavious Odoms, Manny Harris, the spread option, and many other things. So if I'm not stealing their opinions, what else could I be stealing from them? The only other possible answer is the news that they provide. So yes, you are bashing me for collecting
news and educating myself on Michigan football, even though you do the exact same thing. You are therefore a bloody hypcorite and a 2-faced coward and a walking contradiction. The truth hurts, doesn't it?
BTW, have you ever read Gregg Doyels columns on CBS? If you think I'm an arrogant know it all, you should read his columns. They are pure gold! I love most of them. I'm guessing you'd want to strangle a person like Doyel. Here's another life lesson for you: if you can't handle a
strongly opinionated person like Doyel or Drew Sharp or Michael Wilbon or Poole1Dan, then shut the fuck up and ignore us. You;re problem isn't that I'm are strongly opinionated and a "know it all," its that I have proven my opinions to be right while proving your opinions to be wrong. *kisses*
No my problem is that you are a real-life pussy Dan, you hide behind a monitor with your quacking lisp, calling us REAL Michigan fans whatever you want, knowing damm well you would NEVER say these things to our faces.You are a pussy, plain and simple.Being raised in the internet era must be nice for a pussy like you, this way you can hide from any and everything you say. I like how your 20 year old ass is trying to give me"life lessons",that in itself is down right hilarious! Take your meds kid!
3. The fact that you choose to call me out for projecting where Pace will be on the depth chart when everyone is doing similar things just shows that you are out to attack me and make baseless, laughable, pathetic arguments against me. This isn't about who's on the coachnig staff. Its about you being pissy with me cause I've wasted every single argument you've thrown at me and have exposed you on multiple videos as a douchey mcdouchebag going through a serious mid life crisis.
I don't care what intentions you have about "putting me in my place." The fact is the matter is you are a hypocrite (again) for accusing me of smearing shit on Pace's video when you started the whole argument. Brewcumturd=coward
i don't know why RR doesn't recruit heavily for o-line prospects.everyone knows the backbone of any offense/defense is the strength of the off./def.line.and also i'm not a fan of getting the smaller lineman.they tend to wear down and get injured especially in the BIG ten.maybe i'm wrong,but thats just what i think.but i do like christian.he's a great addition.GO BLUE!!!
He'll redshirt in 2010, be a backup in 2011, and then compete fpr the starting job as a redshirt sophomore in 2012, when David Molk graduates. Hopefully by then he's got enough muscle on him to handle Big Ten defensive tackles. At least he's got great athleticism. That will partly make up for his (current) size disadvantage
Go Blue!
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
WOW!!! So now you're on the coaching staff too??
Hell, forget about what the "experts" know, you just laid out his entire career at Michigan...I wish I had a crystal ball like yours Looney Tunes!
And someone your size calling out a prospects "size disadvantages"? LMFAO!!!! Go take your meds slappy.
This kid will be a great lineman in RR's offense!
Brewhaman 2 years ago
1. I did not say Pace would not be a great lineman, so why you're bringing up how good Pace will be in repsonse to what I said makes no sense
2. There's nothing wrong with projecting the career of a certain player relative to the depth chart. The folks at mgoblog and Michigan dot rivals do it all the time. A few days ago, Michael Spaeth came out with a 2011 depth chart projection. Projecting the depth chart and where a certain player will be is part of the fun of being a diehard sports fan
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
I read through your BS and find what you're to pussy to really say Looney Tunes.
What you said, basically, is that he is small and needs to work out. Your hatred towards Michigan is so blinding that you can't see how well this kid will fit RR's system. He's an athletic lineman, the type RR needs to run HIS system.
And it doesn't surprise me that everything you post out here is stolen from Brian Cook's site OR Rivals, you lack your own creativity...expected from a thumb sucking mommas boy!
Brewhaman 2 years ago
" is that he is small and needs to work out"
Indeed he does. As it stands right now, he'd have a hard time dealing with the beefy d-lineman that Big Ten teams have. That being said, Pace is only a senior in highschool right now. By the time Michigans needs him to start in 2012, he'll be a redshirt sophomore and by then should be big enough to physically handle the likes of Jared Odrick and Doug Worthington.
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
So much love for Ohio State, go be a fan of them, stay away from Michigan prospects, they don't need your in, excuse me, SHITput.
Brewhaman 2 years ago
Only you could take a comment I made about Pace's size and spin it as me loving Ohio State. ROFLMFAO
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
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"Only you could take a comment I made about Pace's size and spin it as me loving Ohio State"
No, you're just entirely too transparent, I can see right through your lame ass BS!
Brewhaman 2 years ago
"Your hatred towards Michigan is so blinding that you can't see how well this kid will fit RR's system"
There you go again with you hate dickrod= hate Michigan fallacy. Dickrod is a head coach who has only been here since December 17th, 2007 and wasn't even born when Michigan won 10 of their first 11 national championships. Dickrod is not Michigan football, and Michigan football is not dickrod. To hate the coach is not to hate the team. I love the Wolverines, and I loath dickrod.
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
ALL IN FOR MICHIGAN Looney Tunes,
If you're not all in, get the hell out of the way!
Brewhaman 2 years ago
All in for Michigan does not mean all in for dickrod. It means all in for Michigan. like I just explained, Michigan is not dickrod.
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
Wow, another stupid comment.
I see the community college edjamucation is working well for you.
ALL IN, mean ALL IN.
You don't get to pick and choose what you want and don't want. That's what children do at dinner time! But then this comes back to you being a thumb sucking mommas boy, doesn't it?
Brewhaman 2 years ago
FWIW, Oakland University is not a community college. It actually is the third largest college in the state behind Michigan and Michigan State. But anywhoo.....
All in means you fully support the Michigan Wolverines even through their losing and aren't rooting for someother team cause you can't stand the losing. All in has NOTHING to do with the coaches or the players. The coaches and players are changable. The Michigan Wolverines program is not.
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
2 schools of which you could not get into..."anywhoo"...
Brewhaman 2 years ago
I applied to Michigan and never got accpeted or rejected. They never got back to me. I then applied to Oakland and got accepted. I never applied to Michigan State, so I didn't get rejected from them either.
BTW, what college did you go to? Delaware State?
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
"They never got back to me"
LMFAO...I wonder why, LOL!!
Brewhaman 2 years ago
again, what college did you go to? did you even go to college? were you a highschool dropout? don't be throwing stones from a glass building you cock licker
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
there you go again, when I call you out for what you are (a pussy), you go into profanity mode....so expected from a mush brain..
And I won't bother sharing with YOU where I earned my Degree from, because it's not important for me to impress an idiot of your stature. Let's just say it was somewhere that you couldn't get into....pussy!
Brewhaman 2 years ago
yeah. thats what I thought. you are a highschool dropout who's too ashamed to admit it. who's the pussy now? (:
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
"who's the pussy now"
Can you read? The only pussy on this message board is you 'Ol Lispy one!
Brewhaman 2 years ago
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Brewhaman 2 years ago
"He's an athletic lineman, the type RR needs to run HIS system"
Thats nice. Just cause you fit a certain system doesn't mean you'll be a great player. Pace is a high level 3 star recruit who has great athleticism but lacks blue chip talent. Maybe he'll be good, maybe not. I don't know. I hope he ends up being great like you predict
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
So now he won't be a good player, I thought you just said "I never said he wouldn't be a good player".
Your problem, again, besides being a flaming DORK, is that you put entirely too much empahsis on that stupid star syestem. Time tells the tale, NOT the STAR rating you hold so dearly to your heart shaggy!
Brewhaman 2 years ago
I can see why you were a college dropout: you never learned to read!! I did indeed say that "I never said he wouldn't be a good player." Later I said that "I don't know if he'll be good or bad." So if I say that i don't know whether he will be good or bad, hwo the hell is that contradictory to me saying I never said he'll be bad?
The star system has proven to be a reliable indicator of how good or bad a certain player will be. Its no accident that the top teams in the nation always bring
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
See there you go again with the retracting of your statements, you are a walking contraditction!
I can see the meds haven't been taken in a while, you're starting to get a little off base.
Brewhaman 2 years ago
I haven't retracted anything. I stand by my comment that I don't know if Pace will be good or bad. And I maintain that I did not say that pace will be bad. And there's a damn good reason why I didn't say pace will be bad: cause I honestly don't know what he will do. For me, its a wait-and-see game with Pace. So no, I am not contradicting myself in any way, shape, or form
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
in the most 4 and 5 star/blue chip recruits. Its an imperfect system, obviously, but is pretty damn reliable. Any prediction about a 3 star like Pace being a great player is pure partisan speculation. Even goblue918, who is a fierce dickrod supporter, is pissed at how many non blue chip recruits we have in this 2010 class!
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
You don't know the full potential of a player. You are soley basing your stupid star argument on talent of the pass. Michigans got and is getting a ton of talent, star system aside. Last years and the one before was an example(s) of talented players, playing with inexpierence and unsure of themselves...PERIOD!
Brewhaman 2 years ago
Its like the old saying goes: those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. History has shown that the star system is reliable, therefore, I base alot of my arguments about a player on the star system. You have no basis for saying 'michigan is getting alot of talent' when you're not basing it on anything empirical, quantitative, or even discernable. Its just your partisan, subjective speculation, and it means NOTHING when it comes to proving your point. Like you so
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
elegantly put it: (baseless) opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. You sir, have a baseless opinion. I do not. I base my opinions on facts and/or logic. You just spew out shit that is either disorted or just plain old non-sensical.
And as far as last year goes, Michigan had half if its scholarship roster composed of blue chip recruits (you know, the guys that USC and Florida live off of) and went 5-7. The year before that, we had 41 blue chippers and went.....3-9.
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
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dickrod WASTED the immense talent he inherited to the tune of an 8-16 record and a 3-13 Big Ten record. For this, he deserves to be FIRED
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
"you lack your own creativity"
as do you. all you ever do is launch fallacious ad homimem attacks against me and repeat jargon such as "all in for Michigan." You don't make hardly any logical arguments in your favor. The few logical arguments you do make are easily dissected and destroyed by yours truly. Neither of us are newsreporters. We all get our information from various websites or newspapers or magazines. I myself find that mgoblog and michigan dot rivals provide the quickest, most
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
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Brewhaman 2 years ago
informative, up-to-date news, so i visit them everyday. The personal opinions of Cook and his mgoblogers usually are wrong, but the news Cook and his buddies like Tim Sullivan provide (such as Wednesday recruiting) is usually quite informative and entertaining. Then in Michigan dot rivals, you've got the daily newstands and other links they provide. Spaeth, John Borton, Chris Balas, etc do an excellent job with that site.
so please, don't bash me for collecting news. you do it yourself you
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
fucking hypocrite! Back ion October 2008, you were telling me that my video of the 1997 and 2003 similarities was on a link on a daily newstand on Michigan dot rivals, so you read the exact same link I read!
Here;s a life lesson for your stupid ass: when you constantly try to attack somebody, you inevitably make yourself look like a hypocritcal moron
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
I'm not bashing you for educating yourself on Michigan Football, I follow recruitng about as close as I follow Michigan athletics. What I have a problem with is you projecting yourself as some sort of know-it-all guru, when in fact your nothing more than a DORK loaner attending community college in Oakland. I've said it before, opinions are like assholes, in that everyone has one!
Brewhaman 2 years ago
Here's what you said: "it doesn't surprise me that everything you post out here is stolen from Brian Cook's site OR Rivals."
What exactly am I stealing? Their opinions? Hell no! I've been a loud critic of Cook for his opinions on dickrod, Martavious Odoms, Manny Harris, the spread option, and many other things. So if I'm not stealing their opinions, what else could I be stealing from them? The only other possible answer is the news that they provide. So yes, you are bashing me for collecting
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
news and educating myself on Michigan football, even though you do the exact same thing. You are therefore a bloody hypcorite and a 2-faced coward and a walking contradiction. The truth hurts, doesn't it?
BTW, have you ever read Gregg Doyels columns on CBS? If you think I'm an arrogant know it all, you should read his columns. They are pure gold! I love most of them. I'm guessing you'd want to strangle a person like Doyel. Here's another life lesson for you: if you can't handle a
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
strongly opinionated person like Doyel or Drew Sharp or Michael Wilbon or Poole1Dan, then shut the fuck up and ignore us. You;re problem isn't that I'm are strongly opinionated and a "know it all," its that I have proven my opinions to be right while proving your opinions to be wrong. *kisses*
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
No my problem is that you are a real-life pussy Dan, you hide behind a monitor with your quacking lisp, calling us REAL Michigan fans whatever you want, knowing damm well you would NEVER say these things to our faces.You are a pussy, plain and simple.Being raised in the internet era must be nice for a pussy like you, this way you can hide from any and everything you say. I like how your 20 year old ass is trying to give me"life lessons",that in itself is down right hilarious! Take your meds kid!
Brewhaman 2 years ago
And the fact remains that you are a 2 faced hypocrite who lets your hatred of me blind you to logic and reason. (=
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
I don't hate you, that's too much credit for a DORK.
You're just a pussy, a spineless little pussy...that's it.
Brewhaman 2 years ago
3. The fact that you choose to call me out for projecting where Pace will be on the depth chart when everyone is doing similar things just shows that you are out to attack me and make baseless, laughable, pathetic arguments against me. This isn't about who's on the coachnig staff. Its about you being pissy with me cause I've wasted every single argument you've thrown at me and have exposed you on multiple videos as a douchey mcdouchebag going through a serious mid life crisis.
Fuck off!
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
Carefull...you're beginning to smear shit all over this recruits page too.
Brewhaman 2 years ago
You're the bitch who got in my grill. I didn't start shit on this video or most other videos i've been on.
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
Well...I have to put you in your place junior, years of being coddled by mommy has made you the little turd you are.
Brewhaman 2 years ago
I don't care what intentions you have about "putting me in my place." The fact is the matter is you are a hypocrite (again) for accusing me of smearing shit on Pace's video when you started the whole argument. Brewcumturd=coward
Poole1Dan 2 years ago
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Anthonycapucini 2 years ago
GO BLUE! Pancake Pancake Pancake...Welcome to THE BIG HOUSE!!!!
bripetro01 2 years ago
Please do this to at Michigan
paulczar 2 years ago
i don't know why RR doesn't recruit heavily for o-line prospects.everyone knows the backbone of any offense/defense is the strength of the off./def.line.and also i'm not a fan of getting the smaller lineman.they tend to wear down and get injured especially in the BIG ten.maybe i'm wrong,but thats just what i think.but i do like christian.he's a great addition.GO BLUE!!!
footpedaldave 2 years ago
welcome to the Michigan family,christian.GOOOO BLLLLUUUUE!!!
footpedaldave 2 years ago